I know... you hate FSU for beating your ass all these years lol... Kick us when we lose a few games, perfect! We'll be back... and still carrying the conference...see you then!
None of this was ever based on 1 or 2 good TV rating years FSU and Clemson have based their entire argument on what they've brought in over the course of around a decade and a half Miami can have 1 great season they could win it all and have the most watched team in the country but a single season isn't enough to draw interest from the SEC or B1G and does nothing to FSU and Clemson
Do you think that the Big 12 and the ACC will pull together and create another super conference? There would need to be a Football Tier A and a Basketball Tier A. Clearly, both conferences have enough firepower to compete as a group... I say that because nobody focuses on the bottom half teams of the SEC of BiG.
The acc and b12 could join and still not constitute them being called a power conference. There is only 2 power conferences now and it's the sec and big10. Nobody in the acc or big12 can ever compete with the top schools in those 2 conferences. Uga, bama, Texas, and Tennessee all would destroy the big12 and acc top teams. And then the middle tier sec teams would win 90% of games vs those 2 conferences. The big10 has several schools that the big12 and acc just can't compete with also. Its just a hard place to be in for fsu and clemson because you have decent viewership but its been a long time since either program has been any threat to the top sec programs or the big10 and its not gonna happen for much longer now. Even is fsu was let in the playoffs last year, they were going to get soundly handled even with Jordan Travis at qb. Georgias 3rd string was demolishing fsu.
How much longer are we going to be forced to deal with eSECpn’s BS? They, the ACC & eSECpn, definitely wouldn’t be interested in negotiations IF the GOR was really lock clad.
Why wouldn't the ACC accept more money from ESPN and quiet the babies at FSU until 2030, the whole football world is going to change then with a massive consolidation.
2030 is also when the current B1G contracts end, so any new teams would be part of that conversation. That actually makes it much easier for the B1G to add new teams at that point. Yes, FSU has to right its ship, if for no other reason than to keep TV viewership numbers very high. 8=4 seasons and dropping TV ratings would be very bad. As Doug knows, there is no way to be certain of a landing spot, since the B1G or SEC would be sued in a second if they in some way promised FSU or Clemson anything. Right now both of those schools are under binding contracts and no league wants to get sued over interfering with that contract.
Bingo, that's why ESPN is willing to stabilize the ACC product with more money. The consolidation is scheduled for 2030, the Mega 2 and the TV money have a plan.
Last two ACC champions FSU and Clemson loss to Georgia by a combined score of 97-6. Stay in the ACC. Getting beat by Vanderbilt and Kentucky is not a good look.
FSU broke the SEC streak in 2014 for natties vs Auburn Team that was better than Sabans first THREE natty winners as the 2009 team was a joke that Texas only lost to after Qb hurt in first series of game .....88s can say what they want as IQ tests not required on RUclips;) net net go AWAY ;;;;
It’s intellectually dishonest to phrase FSU loss to UGA like that. UGA had most their starters, everyone of FSU was out. You know that if FSU had starters, they would have won.
Not one prediction I’ve heard on this show has ever come true. Also FSU doesn’t deserve 5 cents more than it’s getting now just for the sheer embarrassment it’s caused the conference over the last year. 63-3 smh
@@hugolongjohnson5115 Why would they? FSU essentially told all its ACC bothers to screw off and spent the last 2 and a half years trying to burn the place down. Nobody wants to stand with a spoiled brat.
Thats bullcrap. FSU let FSU down . The committe knew FSU was not one of the best 4 w/o their 1st string QB. FSU should have had a better 2nd stringer. And way to go and show the world that you belonged by NOT showing up for Georgia. everyrone sat out and didnt try to prove something. FSU let FSU down.
@@MackinNC1FSU could have shut everybody’s mouth up showing out at the Orange Bowl and kicking UGA'S ass. Instead, they chose to opt out and throw their scrubs to the wolves. I’ve never seen a more cowardly act than that in sports.
There is only 1 team left that the big 10 wants, Notre Dame. They don't need FSU or Clemson to tag along.They could accept any program, from anywhere they desire, at a reduced share to balance the conference. The Big is done dolling out 70 million dollar shares unless the Irish want in.
They still have to compete against the SEC. They'd obviously be a better football conference with FSU and Clemson than without. If SEC bullies B1G schools in the playoffs the next couple of years or so, B1G would have to worry about P2 becoming P1.. and ESPN would benefit from that immensely.
FSU is dumb if they stay. The money doesn’t make sense and the whole point of leaving is if you don’t win the conference it’s hard to get into the playoffs. The acc is not looked at as a power conference. Leave now. Period. Screw the rework.
FSU will get nothing done and go absolutely nowhere beyond the ACC, which was the whole purpose of these legal efforts to begin with. I don’t see any other program in the country settling like Florida State enjoys, settling for less talent for less TV time against lesser opponents.
WTF are you talking about? This is essentially the ACC halfway waving the white flag and saying "please don't leave! We'll pay you your fair share" lmfao 🤣 😂
@@ChrisWienberg if that were true, then why would the ACC/ESPN offer FSU and Clemson more money to stay if everyone knows that they're not valued by the lil10 and the SEC? it doesn't make any fucking sense and you know lmfao 🤣 😂
@@ChrisWienberg lol… they already have an invite from B1G moron. This isn’t about wins and losses on the field this year. This is about eyes on the TV and they still have more than half the B1G and SEC. It is about creating revenue for the media.
I don't like this settlement because the GOR was through 2036 ONLY IF ESPN exercises the option. We have ESPN over barrel now because their deadline to extend the contract is coming up. If they don't extend then we have a much stronger case to get out.
@@SurferRC FSU doesn’t bring in more views than OSU MICHIGAN OREGON USC NEBRASKA OR PENN ST WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING BOUT U JUST TALKING OUT YOUR ASS FOR NO REASON I JUST NAMED 6 TEAMS THAT ABSOLUTELY HAVE MORE VIEWERSHIP AND MAKE MORE MONEY FSU ISNT A BRAND ITS NOT THE 90’S YOUR IRRELEVANT AND BEEN IRRELEVANT SINCE 2015 AND TALLAHASSEE IS A SHIT TV MARKET MIAMI IS THE ONLY TEAM OUTTA THAT PIECE OF SHIT CONFERENCE THE BIG MIGHT ACCEPT
We're in a "tough place" because our football team is looking down the barrel of a complete rebuild, and doing this while recruiting against the SEC and BIG10 in this new environment will be difficult. The good part is it will be much easier to get into the playoff in the ACC... IF we can start recruiting and get back on track.
What!? Its much tougher in the acc to make the playoff! You have to be the best of 17 schools and win the conference champ game! In the sec you can be 4th of 16 not make the champ game and still easily make the playoff!
@@SurferRC I'm talking recruiting... I agree with what you are saying, but recruiting is going to become more difficult with the new conference alignment... if the perception that then SEC and BIG10 are. bigger and better.
The actual end of the agreement with ESPN and 2027 that is only three more years when they do their looking and if we can survive that long then perhaps we can get out for no money
TJ. Thanks for the info. (THIS IS A PURPOSEFUL TROLL / Trash talk.... I hear the SunBelt Conf is looking at adding FSU. Also, Can DJU go back in the portal for next year?)
Do we miss the spot in the Big10 if we delay a few yrs? If say they have a cap at 20 or 22 or whatever and we are locked up... then what.. We are stuck at that point
Karen State University (FSU) has to work out a new deal because nobody wants a G5 program that is only capable of winning 1 or 2 games a year … FSU is now Suing Norvell for a contract extension refund
The 🙌 is back 😂😂😂. How quickly losing to MTSU is forgotten! Big talk from someone whose team has yet to win any ACC title in ANY sport! We will be laughing when Miami extends Cristobal after this year then flops next year when his portal team is gone! Yes Miami might go 13-0 and win the ACC, but where will you be next year after everyone is gone? 0-3?
So why should FSU got a bigger chunk of the pie than any other they have 1 national championship in the last 24 years and with their record now the other ACC teams are probably just laughing
This. and Karma is a bitch. FSU sues the ACC and then loses its first 3 games. FSU had better stay in the ACC and hope they return winning like Bobby Had them winning. FSU is my second favorite team and right now FSU is the laughing stock of the college football world. Clemson isnt far behind.
I say sign the agreement if it ends grant of Rights in 2030. Use the money you were gonna give to ACC to exit to self fund yourself until 2030 to even surpass SEC/B1G money.
It would be a sign that FSU wants to be a good partner to the B1G by staying ACC until 2030.whose media deal expires in 2029. Let the B1G integrate its new west coast members and figure out if it wants to go back to divisions and a semi conference football playoffs. Notre Dame also expires in 2029 so the B1G could open for another 4 school expansion.
Get out in 2027 and 60 million. For every year after 2027, the acc wants us to stay add 10 million. Espn needs us to stay in the acc to secure their long term investment. Espn is having money problems because of their viewership model. Make absolutely sure the negotiated agreement is explicitly defined on every detail before signing.
This conference is weak, FSU should just stay and be one of the bullies on da block and try to make the playoffs every year, they'd earn more money that way and keep alumni happy 😊
Rumor from a good source has it that the ACC is filing a major lawsuit against FSU tomorrow in Federal Court. reason is the last 3 FSU games has made the ACC look really bad and damaged the ACC,
Objectives were: 1. F the ACC 2. Get into a Power 2 conference 3. Make as much or more money from TV as do the schools like UF do with whom we compete. This does not accomplish objective 1 or 2 and remains to be seen on objective 3 but it looks doubtful. Whats the point of minimizing the exit fee if you don't leave and make it possible for ESPN to extend and pretend.
💯. This settlement is a L, no matter how you slice it. It accomplishes nothing long term. Short term it is temporary wet bandaid on a gaping wound. One of three things have happened for FSU to agree to settle. 1.) They figured there is no way out of the GOR. 2.) They don’t have a spot in the big 2, as they originally calculated. 3.) Both. Every other explanation is just cope IMO.
@SS-qu9nn I think biggest reason is no landing spot at this time. The lions have of the BIG 10 president's said they would only vote to admit them if they were AAU. That, at this point, is the hangup. Even if they were approved this year over USF, it would still take 2 years or a little more for that classification. The ACC also saw their cash cow disappearing and even as bad as this team is, they still produce viewers. Don't think for one second that this is just a settlement on FSU's part. Them leaving means as much or more for the ACC also.
@@LoneWolfeServices I agree, that makes sense. As Miami fan, I was hoping FSU and Clemson would be able to break the ridiculous GOR, so Miami could leave as well. That ACC TV deal is an albatross around the neck of every ACC school, especially the three or four that people tune in to watch. We need to get out ASAP or FSU, Miami and Clemson are not going to be able to compete with the schools in the big 2 conferences from a financial perspective. Guess we don’t have a choice in the matter until 2030 at the earliest but I wish they would just dissolve the ACC already.
I don't know about 2028? The attorney here even made reference to Texas & Oklahoma leaving the Big-12 a year early. Yormark had to agree to a cash settlement for Texas & Oklahoma to be released that year early. The previous Big-12 commissioner would have not agreed to that. Now talking about two years for FSU. Is James Phillips ever going to agree to that? I don't think a new ACC commissioner would agree. I think FSU would be in the ACC until 2030.
@@adam6072 The art of moving the goal posts and resetting expectations. LOL! What happened to this idea that there was an existing handshake deal with the B1G? Or that your "big ratings" would actually make the SEC care? If the SEC cared, they'd make a call to ESPN right now to work a compromise to get you into the conference. That call will never be made.
Honestly I just want FSU to have the money to compete at the highest level & I really don’t count where or how we get it. An elatedly funded FSU program makes for an ELITE CFB Power
This. The bottom feeders of the P2 will have more resources than any fully committed program in the ACC. If they can restructure so fully committed teams are able to compete and not get financially dwarfed by the likes of Vandy and Illinois then ACC is a good enough home.
@@7empest376 long term yes, since eating the Big East, the ACC always seems to be reacting (poorly) to the ever-changing landscape of college football, rather than being being proactive. However, looking to catch the wave of 2030, we want the most money possible until then and not still fighting appeals in court.
A couple of points. 1: FSU will have extra time to get their academics up to where the Big 10 can take them without a partner like Miami or a Georgia Tech. 1a: FSU has more time to secure AAU membership. 2: A GOR ending in 2030 puts FSU closer to the expiration date of the Big 10/Fox contract, so if they join it will be closer to being a full share member.
B10 doesn’t want FSU. B10 wants ND, probably Miami if they move into Florida. FSU clowns have been making crap up for the last year trying to cry their way out of the ACC
Big10 not taking FSU bum asses absolutely not dog shit team in a dog shit television market what the fuck is in Tallahassee Miami maybe because it’s fucking Miami and a huge television market
I don’t recommend accepting the agreement. 1) FSU has stated this conference has misled them, so why continue business with that kind of partner. 2) This conference hasn’t enthusiastically or willfully promoted its brands, thus costing millions for the members over the decades. 3) It knee caps the legal argument FSU has made. Also the ACC constitution is set up in such away that FSU would always be at the mercy of many private schools. 4) The current media partner has no incentive to properly and publicly promote the brand due to the fact that too many schools are not a financial value add for that partner to do that for this conference.5) Lastly, when the new TV contracts for the SEC and B10 arrive, will the ACC ever be able to keep pace? I think not.
FSU was not misled, and they know it, just a bullcrap argument to get out of the ACC on the cheap. I don't want to hear anything about not being supported coming from the crybabies at FSU. FSU has spent the last 2 years trying to destroy the ACC, without giving two cents of worth or thought for the league's other members. I will never and neither should any ACC member give a dang about FSU and should always laugh at its failure. They could have left like men and paid their way out, but they choose to be punks and try to burn the league down. I don't know how the new football consolidation in 2030 ultimately looks like, but I hope my Tarheels are far removed from FSU and its disgraceful reputation.
I want us to stay now. Save the 300 to 400 million and use it to effectively give ourselves an extra 40 to 50 million a year until it’s over in 2030. This would get us to SEC level, maybe even above it.
I don’t like this at all. It’s not a win for FSU. First it’s extending GOR to 2030 because, as you e reported, if GOR is coextensive with the ESPN deal, the GOR expires in 2026 when ESPN contract expires. ESPN may not renew with threat of conference departures. Second, we are not saving $200million in exit fees. You still will have to pay an exit fee when we leave in 2030. And the fee may be even bigger in 2030 if the fee is based on the percentage of the ACC budget. Finally, we’re stuck in a conference that likely is paying its premier program less money than Northwestern makes. This is unacceptable to the core.
You are also forgetting that there is a “Winning initiative” where the top 2 teams/conference champions get a bonus. So if FSU or Clemson can actually win games, they can exceed SEC and Big 10 payouts. It’s a win for both sides.
That's a lie. B1G and SEC teams already get more playoff money. Since they're larger conferences, they'll have more teams in March Madness getting more money there. And since they're larger conferences, they also get more bowl money. And unlike the SEC, the B1G actually owns 40% of the Big Ten Network and ratings are up 168% so far. They control what they charge advertisers year to year on ad rates.
@@vistatiger7493 Last year if realignment was in place, the SEC would've had 9 teams, B1G would've had 7, and the ACC 5. SMU, Cal, and Stanford have never been basketball powers. And that's 7 with UCLA having an off year and now Rutgers has used NIL to rebuild their team. The ACC is extremely top heavy now.
No they didnt,they used viewership as the basis of the suit. Tv revenue, butts in the seats. Even the down years,people love to watch the Noles. Win or lose. That's what it was about. No way the water boy should get the same check as the actual players. WF,CUSE,and the other lesser money MAKERS shouldn't reap the rewards
So basically 30+ years of success and being one of the premiere brands in sports is undone with 3 games of mediocrity. Got it. Air tight logic. Hopefully the educated individuals actually taking part in this litigation aren’t privy to such amazing analysis.
@@kevinhorn7257 A streak of four straight losing seasons that ended a mere three years ago where the best FSU did in conference play was 4-4. Yeah, you’re right. It all fell apart because of one 0-3 start. There’s absolutely no recent history that might be relevant. Good call.
The ACC is a trash conference but FSU can't win it. 1 year of outstanding paid vagabonds and back to normal. Come on guys the talent left the building with Bobby Bowden. Just get used to 1 great year in 5 or 6 maybe! That's the way the cookie crumbles!
I think FSU needs stay in the ACC. It’s not a bad conference and you’re literal the big fish in small pond. You’re almost in play to make college football playoffs every year. If they go to the Big Ten (the SEC doesn’t want FSU) they will be in football purgatory like UF is in the SEC. They’ll never win Big Ten.
Really other than OSU who is the dominant team Mich (they win a natty every 30-40 years) or perhaps Penn State who hasnt won since Jerry the sandman was a myth..ohh USC whohas won 2 nattys in last 35 years ..or yes the nattyLESS DUx......whats your IQ..88;;;?
Sadly Jim Phillips put us at a disadvantage with the CFP when he accepted less ACC payout than the B1G and SEC. Clemson represented the ACC in 6 of the playoffs plus ND's appearance in 2020 when they were football members that year. I believe that's more appearances than the B1G had during that run. All the ACC got for it was a lot less than the SEC and B1G and 1m more than the Big 12 with the new CFP contract.
Performance based are workable incentives that could and may likely get enough support to be ratified by the members. These can be as simple as $5MM for conference champ. game $5MM for ACC champ. $10MM for being in the playoffs $10MM for each playoff victory. $500thousand for each week in the AP top 25 This would give all teams weekly incentives for being ranked and further give champions and playoff teams a min. bonus of $10MM ACC champ. $15-20MM getting to the final game $35MM win the nat champ $45-50MM. However all performance based incentives are a double edged sword in that if team does not make playoffs no $$$ . Ray
Miami doesn't have the viewership numbers. This is about ESPN protecting the primetime time slots that are available to the ACC. Clemson and FSU traditionally fills those slots. Miami has never been able to fill a marquee slot without FSU or Clemson's name being attached to it.
Let them go ! They them see how much less they will get from the bid ten. The SEC doesn't want either one of them. Let them go. Miama and Virginia Tech and the rest of the ACC doesn't need them to stay a power 5 conf. Let them go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope we get a good result to stay in the ACC, I think it is an awesome conference, not only for sports in general but the academic standards of the members is exceptional.
So it doesn’t matter what the FSU fans want did I hear you correctly? I guess if FSU fans were content with being the NC State of the conference and content with 1/3 fan attendance in the stands well sure I guess that’s sounds great. What a bunch of idiots. Maybe after Miami scores somewhere in the range between 50 and 60 points on Florida State, perhaps attitudes will change and the fire lit under the stubborn asses that don’t know how to leave a losing conference that commands no respect.
@@observer46-vh5bm idk but UGA dog walked yall and they didn’t even make the playoffs? Looked like to me that u compete much better with acc teams. Which is fact.
@@heathertiller3644 I am not saying that GA was not a better team, but many of the FSU players did not show up. Honestly I do not blame them. From their first pee wee football game they knew that if they went to a major football college and then went undefeated, they could be national champions. FSU did that and then was not given the chance. I get it. Yes the ACC is much weaker than either the B1G or SEC. There is a reason that those are the Big 2.
FSU is realizing what everyone has been telling them for years. 1. BIG nor SEC wants or needs them. 2. ACC is the best place even at a small financial disadvantage. 3. UNC and UVA will be gone in just a short time, so add Tulane and Memphis quicklike
This sucks. Florida state people were so confident that we could get out of this weak ass conference. Now we're backing up step by step. 1st it's theirs a chance we could be out by 2025, then it's 2027 because ESPN hasn't signed the extension. Now, it's wait and see until February 1 to see if ESPN does. Now it's stay in the acc only until 2030. When it's all said and done, we're back to being in a conference that doesn't get any respect. While other conferences play weak out of conference schedules, Florida state has to play 2 sec opponents just so the schedule isn't considered weak. What happens when the SEC & BIG 10 Break free from everyone else. Should've known not to get hopes up.
This narrative will shift win Miami gets screwed this year because they are in the ACC. ESPN (Disney) is struggling. They are a power broker for college football, but college football is getting worse every day and has basically now 4 huge prostitution rings and a couple of challengers. All games are irrelevant, most are blowouts. Only a brain dead drunk or college kids are watching. The ACC is struggling and it’s getting worse every day. Bottom line, if you can’t afford to pay your O-Line a minimum of 1 million dollars a year ( Texas pays all O-Line players a minimum of 100K per year ) or Alabama giving players Mercedes Benz cars etc. your team is not going to be able to compete.
FSU better stay in the ACC,can't even beat Memphis. And looks winless this year. Not good enough for the SEC or Big 10. Drop the lawsuit and start recruiting better.
That's some incredible spin trying to call this a victory. Crawling back to the ACC with hat in hand after going total scorched Earth on them is not a victory. Come on guys. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. This is only happening because there's no home for FSU outside the ACC.
This is what FSU asked for before they sued. If it goes through, they're going to get that and more than what they asked for. Not sure how else you want us to "spin" it..
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw Not exactly, FSU wanted some of everybody else's money. Now ESPN is willing to pony up and sprinkle a little extra sugar based in media ratings. That should be fine with everyone. ESPN needs that sweet ACC product to remain intact until the TV money men are ready to reshape the whole system in 2030.
@@amac701 check out how I backdated this ESPN article with quotes from FSU's AD to support my revising of history! 😂 www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35728303/florida-state-ad-says-lagging-acc-revenue-change
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The threshold for "Breaking News" has become so low.
It’s so bad right now
a first down vs Cal would likely qualify;
This year’s nightmare just keeps getting worse and worse.
FSU now realizing it's gonna need to use all of that ACC exit money just to fire Norvell's scrub ass.
now thats funny as an ALum';
😂😂😂😂😂
I know... you hate FSU for beating your ass all these years lol... Kick us when we lose a few games, perfect! We'll be back... and still carrying the conference...see you then!
@@rlhaff3560 I'm a 45 year FSU fan, lived through all the highs and lows, we are hot dog water this year and have major program issues.
Biggest threat to this for FSU and Clemson is Miami being and staying good. Miami will become the most watched team in the ACC.
I’m doubtful of that.
Miami doesn't really have a fan base no matter how good they are.
None of this was ever based on 1 or 2 good TV rating years FSU and Clemson have based their entire argument on what they've brought in over the course of around a decade and a half Miami can have 1 great season they could win it all and have the most watched team in the country but a single season isn't enough to draw interest from the SEC or B1G and does nothing to FSU and Clemson
FSU is an ACC team.
Lower tier lol
Sounds like FSU begging for money 💰
Do you think that the Big 12 and the ACC will pull together and create another super conference? There would need to be a Football Tier A and a Basketball Tier A. Clearly, both conferences have enough firepower to compete as a group... I say that because nobody focuses on the bottom half teams of the SEC of BiG.
The acc and b12 could join and still not constitute them being called a power conference. There is only 2 power conferences now and it's the sec and big10. Nobody in the acc or big12 can ever compete with the top schools in those 2 conferences. Uga, bama, Texas, and Tennessee all would destroy the big12 and acc top teams. And then the middle tier sec teams would win 90% of games vs those 2 conferences. The big10 has several schools that the big12 and acc just can't compete with also. Its just a hard place to be in for fsu and clemson because you have decent viewership but its been a long time since either program has been any threat to the top sec programs or the big10 and its not gonna happen for much longer now. Even is fsu was let in the playoffs last year, they were going to get soundly handled even with Jordan Travis at qb. Georgias 3rd string was demolishing fsu.
Big 10 5brands Sec 8 brands 21brands equal to everyone else
13 brands in big 2 = boring cfb
That still wouldn’t constitute a super conference
How much longer are we going to be forced to deal with eSECpn’s BS?
They, the ACC & eSECpn, definitely wouldn’t be interested in negotiations IF the GOR was really lock clad.
Why wouldn't the ACC accept more money from ESPN and quiet the babies at FSU until 2030, the whole football world is going to change then with a massive consolidation.
I thought the plan was to keep losing until they just kicked us out of the conference?
2030 is also when the current B1G contracts end, so any new teams would be part of that conversation. That actually makes it much easier for the B1G to add new teams at that point. Yes, FSU has to right its ship, if for no other reason than to keep TV viewership numbers very high. 8=4 seasons and dropping TV ratings would be very bad.
As Doug knows, there is no way to be certain of a landing spot, since the B1G or SEC would be sued in a second if they in some way promised FSU or Clemson anything. Right now both of those schools are under binding contracts and no league wants to get sued over interfering with that contract.
Bingo, that's why ESPN is willing to stabilize the ACC product with more money. The consolidation is scheduled for 2030, the Mega 2 and the TV money have a plan.
The ACC needs to go after WV if they can stay together.
Why would wv take less money to go to a less stable conference
Wvu is not a option
@@Bbbmurrmaybe cuz it’s a better conference from top to bottom???
The ACC would never take WV. The second worse fans in the nation , only the usc gamecocks have them beat on being terrible fans.
If Norvell can’t fix his mess we need to bite the bullet and get him out and put someone in who can recruit high school players.
Last two ACC champions FSU and Clemson loss to Georgia by a combined score of 97-6. Stay in the ACC. Getting beat by Vanderbilt and Kentucky is not a good look.
Vandy just lost to Georgia St & Kentucky is a basketball school. ROASTED
FSU broke the SEC streak in 2014 for natties vs Auburn Team that was better than Sabans first THREE natty winners as the 2009 team was a joke that Texas only lost to after Qb hurt in first series of game .....88s can say what they want as IQ tests not required on RUclips;) net net go AWAY ;;;;
It’s intellectually dishonest to phrase FSU loss to UGA like that. UGA had most their starters, everyone of FSU was out. You know that if FSU had starters, they would have won.
Your argument fell apart when you cited a meaningless bowl game as evidence.
@@rich7430 of course a low IQ SEC fan would not be able to discern varying relevance and circumstances-lol
Not one prediction I’ve heard on this show has ever come true. Also FSU doesn’t deserve 5 cents more than it’s getting now just for the sheer embarrassment it’s caused the conference over the last year. 63-3 smh
The conference let fsu down, don’t ever get that twisted, they didn’t defend fsu against the committee
@@hugolongjohnson5115 Why would they? FSU essentially told all its ACC bothers to screw off and spent the last 2 and a half years trying to burn the place down. Nobody wants to stand with a spoiled brat.
@@MikeSharpe973🤡😂
Thats bullcrap. FSU let FSU down . The committe knew FSU was not one of the best 4 w/o their 1st string QB. FSU should have had a better 2nd stringer. And way to go and show the world that you belonged by NOT showing up for Georgia. everyrone sat out and didnt try to prove something. FSU let FSU down.
@@MackinNC1FSU could have shut everybody’s mouth up showing out at the Orange Bowl and kicking UGA'S ass. Instead, they chose to opt out and throw their scrubs to the wolves. I’ve never seen a more cowardly act than that in sports.
There is only 1 team left that the big 10 wants, Notre Dame. They don't need FSU or Clemson to tag along.They could accept any program, from anywhere they desire, at a reduced share to balance the conference. The Big is done dolling out 70 million dollar shares unless the Irish want in.
They still have to compete against the SEC. They'd obviously be a better football conference with FSU and Clemson than without. If SEC bullies B1G schools in the playoffs the next couple of years or so, B1G would have to worry about P2 becoming P1.. and ESPN would benefit from that immensely.
Or has anybody actually looked at our schedule next year?
thats a 2-5 start kinda schedule without major changes.
Is they cant win this year they wont win next year with the same team.
FSU is dumb if they stay. The money doesn’t make sense and the whole point of leaving is if you don’t win the conference it’s hard to get into the playoffs. The acc is not looked at as a power conference. Leave now. Period. Screw the rework.
That current FSU team isn't sniffing the playoffs in any conference much less the SEC or Big10
FSU will get nothing done and go absolutely nowhere beyond the ACC, which was the whole purpose of these legal efforts to begin with. I don’t see any other program in the country settling like Florida State enjoys, settling for less talent for less TV time against lesser opponents.
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WTF are you talking about? This is essentially the ACC halfway waving the white flag and saying "please don't leave! We'll pay you your fair share" lmfao 🤣 😂
LOL. Ask the B12 how well unequal revenue sharing worked for them. This is FSU and Clemson realizing neither the SEC or the B10 really want them
@@ChrisWienberg if that were true, then why would the ACC/ESPN offer FSU and Clemson more money to stay if everyone knows that they're not valued by the lil10 and the SEC? it doesn't make any fucking sense and you know lmfao 🤣 😂
@@ChrisWienberg lol… they already have an invite from B1G moron. This isn’t about wins and losses on the field this year. This is about eyes on the TV and they still have more than half the B1G and SEC. It is about creating revenue for the media.
I don't like this settlement because the GOR was through 2036 ONLY IF ESPN exercises the option. We have ESPN over barrel now because their deadline to extend the contract is coming up. If they don't extend then we have a much stronger case to get out.
Fsu will have a spot in b1g, just not at fullshare. More like 70% in '26.
Sec offering 50%.
Staying in the ACC is a loss, horrible schedule, bad officiating, the snub icing on cake. As long as they are in ACC I refuse to send a dime.
We are capitulating to the ACC, and it's an absolute disgrace, this entire football program is deplorable.
We need to be winning first!
I know its all about the money, but the odds of getting a playoff bye are best out of the SEC.
Legal what ifs is not a win. Better off as an independent at this point. Join Notre Dame and pick your own conference 😅
With the rate at which the economics of college football are changing, I think FSU will regret being locked in until 2030.
Sorry but the acc is the best they’re gonna be able to do rn.
@@heathertiller3644🤡😂
No big conference that’s a factor in college football wants Florida state or Clemson….they’re down falling programs 💯
Come on man fsu and Clemson are just as good as or better than the 3rd best teams in SEC or Little 10
Lol even winless fsu brings in more views and money than all but 2 sec and b10 schools 🤡😂🤦🏼♂️😂😂🤡
@@SurferRC FSU doesn’t bring in more views than OSU MICHIGAN OREGON USC NEBRASKA OR PENN ST WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING BOUT U JUST TALKING OUT YOUR ASS FOR NO REASON I JUST NAMED 6 TEAMS THAT ABSOLUTELY HAVE MORE VIEWERSHIP AND MAKE MORE MONEY FSU ISNT A BRAND ITS NOT THE 90’S YOUR IRRELEVANT AND BEEN IRRELEVANT SINCE 2015 AND TALLAHASSEE IS A SHIT TV MARKET MIAMI IS THE ONLY TEAM OUTTA THAT PIECE OF SHIT CONFERENCE THE BIG MIGHT ACCEPT
We're in a "tough place" because our football team is looking down the barrel of a complete rebuild, and doing this while recruiting against the SEC and BIG10 in this new environment will be difficult. The good part is it will be much easier to get into the playoff in the ACC... IF we can start recruiting and get back on track.
What!? Its much tougher in the acc to make the playoff! You have to be the best of 17 schools and win the conference champ game! In the sec you can be 4th of 16 not make the champ game and still easily make the playoff!
@@SurferRC I'm talking recruiting... I agree with what you are saying, but recruiting is going to become more difficult with the new conference alignment... if the perception that then SEC and BIG10 are. bigger and better.
The actual end of the agreement with ESPN and 2027 that is only three more years when they do their looking and if we can survive that long then perhaps we can get out for no money
Does Notre Dame get a vote?
Yes
ESPN could conceivably be the big looser, Disney as well. Only time will tell, I'm just witnessing !
Take the deal, because the ACC and the Big12 and the PAC12 are the only conferences that want FSU.
TJ. Thanks for the info. (THIS IS A PURPOSEFUL TROLL / Trash talk.... I hear the SunBelt Conf is looking at adding FSU. Also, Can DJU go back in the portal for next year?)
Do we miss the spot in the Big10 if we delay a few yrs? If say they have a cap at 20 or 22 or whatever and we are locked up... then what.. We are stuck at that point
No. All of the schools the B1G would take are tied to the ACC currently. Same goes for the SEC.....they'll be waiting.
Karen State University (FSU) has to work out a new deal because nobody wants a G5 program that is only capable of winning 1 or 2 games a year … FSU is now Suing Norvell for a contract extension refund
Cold blooded!
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The 🙌 is back 😂😂😂. How quickly losing to MTSU is forgotten! Big talk from someone whose team has yet to win any ACC title in ANY sport! We will be laughing when Miami extends Cristobal after this year then flops next year when his portal team is gone! Yes Miami might go 13-0 and win the ACC, but where will you be next year after everyone is gone? 0-3?
So why should FSU got a bigger chunk of the pie than any other they have 1 national championship in the last 24 years and with their record now the other ACC teams are probably just laughing
This. and Karma is a bitch. FSU sues the ACC and then loses its first 3 games. FSU had better stay in the ACC and hope they return winning like Bobby Had them winning. FSU is my second favorite team and right now FSU is the laughing stock of the college football world. Clemson isnt far behind.
I say sign the agreement if it ends grant of Rights in 2030. Use the money you were gonna give to ACC to exit to self fund yourself until 2030 to even surpass SEC/B1G money.
It would be a sign that FSU wants to be a good partner to the B1G by staying ACC
until 2030.whose media deal expires in 2029. Let the B1G integrate its new west coast members and figure out if it wants to
go back to divisions and a semi conference football playoffs. Notre Dame also expires in 2029 so the B1G could open for another
4 school expansion.
Get out in 2027 and 60 million. For every year after 2027, the acc wants us to stay add 10 million. Espn needs us to stay in the acc to secure their long term investment. Espn is having money problems because of their viewership model. Make absolutely sure the negotiated agreement is explicitly defined on every detail before signing.
Need to worry about winning a game cuz its not gonna get any easier
Alabama is going to blow out FSU Back into the early 70s in terms of lack of wins.
Weird comment since we don't play them until next year.
Bama yeah the team that Michigan DOMINATED on LOS last year like UT did .......lets see the next banner they hang ....prolly wont have 202'X in it;)
This guy is wrong again.....ACC is not going to do this David Hale HAS TALK TO A LOT OF ACC HIGHER UPS.....WHY WOULD THEY !!!!
This conference is weak, FSU should just stay and be one of the bullies on da block and try to make the playoffs every year, they'd earn more money that way and keep alumni happy 😊
I think the Sunbelt will take FSU if they can win 3 games this year 😂😂😂😂😂
I dont see but 4 wins in 2025. The launch is so rough it could easily derail a season with this team we have now
FSU is in the basement. Lucky if the ACC doesn’t throw you to the curb. lOl
Rumor from a good source has it that the ACC is filing a major lawsuit against FSU tomorrow in Federal Court. reason is the last 3 FSU games has made the ACC look really bad and damaged the ACC,
You are either a u of f fan or a u of m.
Sounds like we need to buy stock in BIG/SEC merchandise manufacturers.
I second longer in this sorry league is a joke
Click bait
Are u guys still living last years dream??😂😂 don’t worry maybe the MAC will take FSU
BIG10? More like the BIG12.
FSU isn't that Great...
Get out the Acc let Clemson and Miami have it. B1G is better FSU will not go anywhere in the Acc.
Big 10 doesn’t want yall😂😂 yall aren’t going anywhere
FSU cant even win a game no one wants them.
@martinrosario4018 You are just talking. Nobody knows until if and when we leave the ACC.
@@tomahawk1976 they made a public statement saying they have no interest in FSU and I’m just talking, no you’re in denial and delusional lol
@@martinrosario4018 They said the same thing about Texas and Oklahoma.
Its best for fsu and clemson to stay in the acc cause they wpuld get eaten alive in the sec or big10.
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GO NOLES 🍢🍢
#MIKESTILLGOTUS..? 😂
FSU is such a joke
It's a really tough decision. The money saved would be huge but being in the acc kills for recruiting. Not like we recruit well anyways but still.
Objectives were:
1. F the ACC
2. Get into a Power 2 conference
3. Make as much or more money from TV as do the schools like UF do with whom we compete.
This does not accomplish objective 1 or 2 and remains to be seen on objective 3 but it looks doubtful.
Whats the point of minimizing the exit fee if you don't leave and make it possible for ESPN to extend and pretend.
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This settlement is a L, no matter how you slice it. It accomplishes nothing long term. Short term it is temporary wet bandaid on a gaping wound.
One of three things have happened for FSU to agree to settle.
1.) They figured there is no way out of the GOR.
2.) They don’t have a spot in the big 2, as they originally calculated.
3.) Both.
Every other explanation is just cope IMO.
@SS-qu9nn I think biggest reason is no landing spot at this time. The lions have of the BIG 10 president's said they would only vote to admit them if they were AAU. That, at this point, is the hangup. Even if they were approved this year over USF, it would still take 2 years or a little more for that classification. The ACC also saw their cash cow disappearing and even as bad as this team is, they still produce viewers. Don't think for one second that this is just a settlement on FSU's part. Them leaving means as much or more for the ACC also.
@@LoneWolfeServices
I agree, that makes sense.
As Miami fan, I was hoping FSU and Clemson would be able to break the ridiculous GOR, so Miami could leave as well.
That ACC TV deal is an albatross around the neck of every ACC school, especially the three or four that people tune in to watch. We need to get out ASAP or FSU, Miami and Clemson are not going to be able to compete with the schools in the big 2 conferences from a financial perspective.
Guess we don’t have a choice in the matter until 2030 at the earliest but I wish they would just dissolve the ACC already.
@@SS-qu9nn both
If we wait until 2028 it won’t matter because it will just be Big 10 and SEC in regards football
I don't know about 2028? The attorney here even made reference to Texas & Oklahoma leaving the Big-12 a year early. Yormark had to agree to a cash settlement for Texas & Oklahoma to be released that year early. The previous Big-12 commissioner would have not agreed to that. Now talking about two years for FSU. Is James Phillips ever going to agree to that? I don't think a new ACC commissioner would agree. I think FSU would be in the ACC until 2030.
FSU is taking so many Ls this year. All of this just to stay in the ACC through 2030?
2030 is not that long away. Plus, FSU will probably be an AAU by then.
@@adam6072 The art of moving the goal posts and resetting expectations. LOL! What happened to this idea that there was an existing handshake deal with the B1G? Or that your "big ratings" would actually make the SEC care? If the SEC cared, they'd make a call to ESPN right now to work a compromise to get you into the conference. That call will never be made.
Oh look a win for FSU this year? Praise God
Lmao finally our first win in forever 😂
Honestly I just want FSU to have the money to compete at the highest level & I really don’t count where or how we get it.
An elatedly funded FSU program makes for an ELITE CFB Power
This.
The bottom feeders of the P2 will have more resources than any fully committed program in the ACC. If they can restructure so fully committed teams are able to compete and not get financially dwarfed by the likes of Vandy and Illinois then ACC is a good enough home.
I agree with you... But how the ACC has treated us last year speaks volume... It's time to Leave... ACC enjoy paying us to leave.
@@7empest376 long term yes, since eating the Big East, the ACC always seems to be reacting (poorly) to the ever-changing landscape of college football, rather than being being proactive.
However, looking to catch the wave of 2030, we want the most money possible until then and not still fighting appeals in court.
And they will still beg you to donate to battles end
A couple of points.
1: FSU will have extra time to get their academics up to where the Big 10 can take them without a partner like Miami or a Georgia Tech.
1a: FSU has more time to secure AAU membership.
2: A GOR ending in 2030 puts FSU closer to the expiration date of the Big 10/Fox contract, so if they join it will be closer to being a full share member.
Keep your eye on the prize.
B10 doesn’t want FSU. B10 wants ND, probably Miami if they move into Florida. FSU clowns have been making crap up for the last year trying to cry their way out of the ACC
Big10 not taking FSU bum asses absolutely not dog shit team in a dog shit television market what the fuck is in Tallahassee Miami maybe because it’s fucking Miami and a huge television market
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FSU academics put them in the top third roughly of the Big Ten already.
This will not help recruiting theese kids want to play in the sec and big 10 because they turn out more NFL talent
Nope, get out. Both ESPN and the ACC treat FSU terribly.
I don’t recommend accepting the agreement. 1) FSU has stated this conference has misled them, so why continue business with that kind of partner. 2) This conference hasn’t enthusiastically or willfully promoted its brands, thus costing millions for the members over the decades. 3) It knee caps the legal argument FSU has made. Also the ACC constitution is set up in such away that FSU would always be at the mercy of many private schools. 4) The current media partner has no incentive to properly and publicly promote the brand due to the fact that too many schools are not a financial value add for that partner to do that for this conference.5) Lastly, when the new TV contracts for the SEC and B10 arrive, will the ACC ever be able to keep pace? I think not.
FSU was not misled, and they know it, just a bullcrap argument to get out of the ACC on the cheap. I don't want to hear anything about not being supported coming from the crybabies at FSU. FSU has spent the last 2 years trying to destroy the ACC, without giving two cents of worth or thought for the league's other members. I will never and neither should any ACC member give a dang about FSU and should always laugh at its failure. They could have left like men and paid their way out, but they choose to be punks and try to burn the league down. I don't know how the new football consolidation in 2030 ultimately looks like, but I hope my Tarheels are far removed from FSU and its disgraceful reputation.
Right now, would another conference actually want FSU.
Pac 12 would take them
Just lgo back to sleep troll. You don't know what you're talking about.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
FBA/B1
I want us to stay now. Save the 300 to 400 million and use it to effectively give ourselves an extra 40 to 50 million a year until it’s over in 2030. This would get us to SEC level, maybe even above it.
Definitely not the big 10 or sec 😂 they made that clear
FSU adds great value to any conference. It has long term value beyond this year. GO TIGERS!!!!!
I don’t like this at all. It’s not a win for FSU. First it’s extending GOR to 2030 because, as you e reported, if GOR is coextensive with the ESPN deal, the GOR expires in 2026 when ESPN contract expires. ESPN may not renew with threat of conference departures. Second, we are not saving $200million in exit fees. You still will have to pay an exit fee when we leave in 2030. And the fee may be even bigger in 2030 if the fee is based on the percentage of the ACC budget. Finally, we’re stuck in a conference that likely is paying its premier program less money than Northwestern makes. This is unacceptable to the core.
I'd hire Doug in a heart beat! Very knowledgeable!
So we’re settling for Vanderbilt status. GREAT!
Vanderbilt actually won a game against an ACC opponent.
if this is proposed by the ACC, fsu should ask gor til 2025. and see them squirm.
You are also forgetting that there is a “Winning initiative” where the top 2 teams/conference champions get a bonus. So if FSU or Clemson can actually win games, they can exceed SEC and Big 10 payouts. It’s a win for both sides.
Not with the agenda of SEC/B1G breaking away from the NCAA for football.
That's a lie. B1G and SEC teams already get more playoff money. Since they're larger conferences, they'll have more teams in March Madness getting more money there. And since they're larger conferences, they also get more bowl money. And unlike the SEC, the B1G actually owns 40% of the Big Ten Network and ratings are up 168% so far. They control what they charge advertisers year to year on ad rates.
@@heartbreak25 Agree except for the March Madness stuff. The ACC has as many teams as the B1G with 18 teams (17 teams plus ND in basketball).
@@vistatiger7493 Last year if realignment was in place, the SEC would've had 9 teams, B1G would've had 7, and the ACC 5. SMU, Cal, and Stanford have never been basketball powers. And that's 7 with UCLA having an off year and now Rutgers has used NIL to rebuild their team. The ACC is extremely top heavy now.
Slumlord Espn always has its way
The irony behind this is that FSU used “field performance” as a reason to get more money…we don’t quite have the same positioning power now
No they didnt,they used viewership as the basis of the suit. Tv revenue, butts in the seats. Even the down years,people love to watch the Noles. Win or lose. That's what it was about. No way the water boy should get the same check as the actual players. WF,CUSE,and the other lesser money MAKERS shouldn't reap the rewards
@@josephrhodes8I got you. So basically same scheme as NIL. DJU gets the big bucks, produces very little, and creates team division.
So basically 30+ years of success and being one of the premiere brands in sports is undone with 3 games of mediocrity. Got it. Air tight logic. Hopefully the educated individuals actually taking part in this litigation aren’t privy to such amazing analysis.
You have to look at the big picture... the past decade of media exposure shows why FSU & Clemson are valuable.
@@kevinhorn7257 A streak of four straight losing seasons that ended a mere three years ago where the best FSU did in conference play was 4-4. Yeah, you’re right. It all fell apart because of one 0-3 start. There’s absolutely no recent history that might be relevant. Good call.
The ACC is a trash conference but FSU can't win it. 1 year of outstanding paid vagabonds and back to normal. Come on guys the talent left the building with Bobby Bowden. Just get used to 1 great year in 5 or 6 maybe! That's the way the cookie crumbles!
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I think FSU needs stay in the ACC. It’s not a bad conference and you’re literal the big fish in small pond. You’re almost in play to make college football playoffs every year. If they go to the Big Ten (the SEC doesn’t want FSU) they will be in football purgatory like UF is in the SEC. They’ll never win Big Ten.
Really other than OSU who is the dominant team Mich (they win a natty every 30-40 years) or perhaps Penn State who hasnt won since Jerry the sandman was a myth..ohh USC whohas won 2 nattys in last 35 years ..or yes the nattyLESS DUx......whats your IQ..88;;;?
Sadly Jim Phillips put us at a disadvantage with the CFP when he accepted less ACC payout than the B1G and SEC. Clemson represented the ACC in 6 of the playoffs plus ND's appearance in 2020 when they were football members that year. I believe that's more appearances than the B1G had during that run. All the ACC got for it was a lot less than the SEC and B1G and 1m more than the Big 12 with the new CFP contract.
Not based on fact but ok 😂🤡
Performance based are workable incentives that could and may likely get enough support to be ratified by the members. These can be as simple as $5MM for conference champ. game $5MM for ACC champ. $10MM for being in the playoffs $10MM for each playoff victory. $500thousand for each week in the AP top 25 This would give all teams weekly incentives for being ranked and further give champions and playoff teams a min. bonus of $10MM ACC champ. $15-20MM getting to the final game $35MM win the nat champ $45-50MM. However all performance based incentives are a double edged sword in that if team does not make playoffs no $$$ . Ray
FSU loves to settle.
With unequal revenue sharing, that means FSU will just watch Miami collect all the money.
Miami doesn't have the viewership numbers. This is about ESPN protecting the primetime time slots that are available to the ACC. Clemson and FSU traditionally fills those slots. Miami has never been able to fill a marquee slot without FSU or Clemson's name being attached to it.
MIAMI WILL FOR SURE, There on The Rise,Big Time!!!@@lyfeofbill2764
Let them go ! They them see how much less they will get from the bid ten. The SEC doesn't want either one of them. Let them go. Miama and Virginia Tech and the rest of the ACC doesn't need them to stay a power 5 conf. Let them go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FSU belongs in the MAC conference!!! I’ve seen enough of them LOL
I hope we get a good result to stay in the ACC, I think it is an awesome conference, not only for sports in general but the academic standards of the members is exceptional.
BIG is better
So it doesn’t matter what the FSU fans want did I hear you correctly?
I guess if FSU fans were content with being the NC State of the conference and content with 1/3 fan attendance in the stands well sure I guess that’s sounds great.
What a bunch of idiots.
Maybe after Miami scores somewhere in the range between 50 and 60 points on Florida State, perhaps attitudes will change and the fire lit under the stubborn asses that don’t know how to leave a losing conference that commands no respect.
What does the abysmal season have to do with this deal? If Miami wins 55-7, does that change anything stated in this video?
Y’all will suck even more in a tougher conference. Lol
@@heathertiller3644 do you mean like FSU sucked last year? Bit of push is it not?
@@observer46-vh5bm idk but UGA dog walked yall and they didn’t even make the playoffs? Looked like to me that u compete much better with acc teams. Which is fact.
@@heathertiller3644 I am not saying that GA was not a better team, but many of the FSU players did not show up. Honestly I do not blame them. From their first pee wee football game they knew that if they went to a major football college and then went undefeated, they could be national champions. FSU did that and then was not given the chance. I get it.
Yes the ACC is much weaker than either the B1G or SEC. There is a reason that those are the Big 2.
Any settlement is going to require FSU to stay to end of GOR and waive right to litigation to leave early.
You need to let the MARCHING CHIEFS PLAY ALL GAME !!!!! IF NOT, WHO CARES ANYMORE? LET THE CHIEFS PLAY!!!!
FSU is realizing what everyone has been telling them for years.
1. BIG nor SEC wants or needs them.
2. ACC is the best place even at a small financial disadvantage.
3. UNC and UVA will be gone in just a short time, so add Tulane and Memphis quicklike
Yeah, Rutgers is a much bigger brand 🤡
@@rich7430 no, NYC is a much bigger market!
@@Southsidechild08 Ask Syracuse about that.
@@1980hgf Syracuse isn’t Rutgers
This sucks. Florida state people were so confident that we could get out of this weak ass conference. Now we're backing up step by step. 1st it's theirs a chance we could be out by 2025, then it's 2027 because ESPN hasn't signed the extension. Now, it's wait and see until February 1 to see if ESPN does. Now it's stay in the acc only until 2030. When it's all said and done, we're back to being in a conference that doesn't get any respect. While other conferences play weak out of conference schedules, Florida state has to play 2 sec opponents just so the schedule isn't considered weak. What happens when the SEC & BIG 10 Break free from everyone else. Should've known not to get hopes up.
This narrative will shift win Miami gets screwed this year because they are in the ACC. ESPN (Disney) is struggling. They are a power broker for college football, but college football is getting worse every day and has basically now 4 huge prostitution rings and a couple of challengers. All games are irrelevant, most are blowouts. Only a brain dead drunk or college kids are watching. The ACC is struggling and it’s getting worse every day. Bottom line, if you can’t afford to pay your O-Line a minimum of 1 million dollars a year ( Texas pays all O-Line players a minimum of 100K per year ) or Alabama giving players Mercedes Benz cars etc. your team is not going to be able to compete.
So Notre Dame doesnt even play football in acc, but still makes more money than Fsu ?
2yrs later and still nada yawn
FSU better stay in the ACC,can't even beat Memphis. And looks winless this year. Not good enough for the SEC or Big 10. Drop the lawsuit and start recruiting better.
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Memphis ain’t a bad team you goof
Y’all should be worrying about that loss against bc
Now this is all Fries and No Slaw content! So this means Clemson and FSU get more money than Miami?
That's some incredible spin trying to call this a victory. Crawling back to the ACC with hat in hand after going total scorched Earth on them is not a victory. Come on guys. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. This is only happening because there's no home for FSU outside the ACC.
This is what FSU asked for before they sued. If it goes through, they're going to get that and more than what they asked for. Not sure how else you want us to "spin" it..
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw yeah, right. . Revisionist history. 🤣
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw Not exactly, FSU wanted some of everybody else's money. Now ESPN is willing to pony up and sprinkle a little extra sugar based in media ratings. That should be fine with everyone. ESPN needs that sweet ACC product to remain intact until the TV money men are ready to reshape the whole system in 2030.
@@amac701 check out how I backdated this ESPN article with quotes from FSU's AD to support my revising of history! 😂 www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35728303/florida-state-ad-says-lagging-acc-revenue-change
Thanks guys for the continued updates and information!
I do hate this if we don't get out of the ACC because of the snub the ACC is a bs conference and I don't want FSU to be here anymore.
You can join a G5 school. 😂
@@eizaguirre2184 maybe we could get a win there