BEST Off Grid Internet? | Better Than Starlink? | Fixed Wireless Internet REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Welcome to RidgeLife. In this video, we take a deep look at off grid and wireless internet options. We compare providers such as Starlink to ATT Fixed Wireless Internet. Do you want to avoid the cost of cable and hassle of satellite internet like HughesNet? Going crazy over cellular data throttling on your hotspot? We may have the answer for you!
00:00 INTRO
00:25 DSL Dialup Cellular Internet
01:06 Cable Internet
01:26 Satellite Internet
02:07 Starlink Internet
04:15 Fixed Wireless Internet
04:43 Fixed Wireless Internet Hardware
07:19 How Fixed Wireless Internet Works
08:17 Drone View of Line of Sight to Tower
08:59 Fixed Wireless Internet Setup
10:31 Fixed Wireless Internet Speed Test
13:26 Fixed Wireless Internet Cost
13:40 Fixed Wireless Data Plan
14:49 Final Review
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I've been using AT&T fixed wireless for about a year now and I'm extremely satisfied by it.
I'm about 7 miles away from the tower (completely out of sight even with my drone) with some miner trees in the distance breaking line of sight.
Download is typically about 87 Mbps, upload 19 Mbps, and ping varies from 50 to 100 ms.
I purchased my plan during a special offer of 500 GB per month for $60 per month. That is now a permanent feature of my plan (lucky me!!). If you do use more data than what's on your plan, they will charge you $15 to double your data amount (just for that month). In my case, that would be an additional 500 GB, but probably in all of your cases, it would be 250 GB. (Just for a frame of reference, if you go over your limited data plan on a Verizon cellular plan, they charge $15 per additional 1 GB... A single GB!! Gee, that's so generous, Verizon.)
I'd like to give some extra details about AT&T fixed wireless:
Of course, you're signal strength is determined on how far you are from the tower and how many obstacles are in the way. The max range away from the tower you can typically be is about 9 miles. Any further and the signal strength with suffer. A few trees will have minimal effect on the signal. Though, if the tower is far away while also having to go through a thick forest, that can cause a low signal. You cannot get a good signal going straight through a building. Also, walking within 5 feet directly in front of the antenna will decrease the signal, and thus decrease speeds.
Your download and upload speed can be significantly effected by how many other people are using fixed wireless on that exact same tower. So if you live in the middle of nowhere, your speeds should be great!
Ping is also greatly effected on the antenna's signal strength and the amount of users on the same tower.
If any hardware needs to be repaired, there is absolutely no fee to have it fixed or replaced. My antenna was just struck be lightening, which completely fried it. It was replaced, again, for free.
I absolutely recommend AT&T fixed wireless! Extremely cheep for the performance and is very reliable. It's comparable to some lower teared fiber optic plans but it's even cheaper.
But keep in mind, the more people that are using fixed wireless on the same tower as you are, the slower your speeds will be. So I recommend you DON'T go telling everyone who lives near you to go get fixed wireless. XD
I hope this was valuable information!
Thank you so much for the information! I am pinning this for all to see.
@@RidgeLife Thank you!
I'd love to- can't get that or anything similar here-- mountains block signal- many areas here police radios won't even pick up.
@dexterian477 That's very excessive ping times. Wow.
Sadly not avail for us. We are stuck with Viasat
I’m glad you’re having a good experience with them. I was one of the first to get it in my area too. It was great….until it wasn’t. I literally saw a guy going up the tower. They decided they needed to relieve congestion in a different part of the county and mine and neighbors in this cone area lost signal. It took me close to a year to get disconnected, the whole time getting billed with no service. The techs would come out because that was their job, but knowing they couldn’t fix anything. They confirmed that the tower antennas had been moved and said it was up to engineering to fix it. In the end this is the worst company to deal with if you have a problem that requires past a service call. They will flat out lie because you have no way to report them. Their overseas support will just hang up and delete your trouble ticket. My favorite one was tier 2 saying “even though you have a red light on service and there is no signal, try running a Speedtest. Sometimes it might still work”. Oh boy. We’re dealing with a bright one this time. It’s been out for six months.
Good luck though, but I just felt they don’t deserve a shout out. I don’t mean anything in this negative toward you and the channel. I love your channel. They are basically taking advantage of people who have no option and sucking in that free government money from the Connect America fund and knocking out the company’s that could actually bring fiber to the rural communities.
Oh my! Luckily, I haven’t experienced that. I’ve had their cellular service for 20yrs and had Uverse cable for about 5 with no issues. I hope my luck continues! Sorry for yours! Thanks and totally understand your position. Take care.
I understand your frustrations. I'm in a similar situation, but with tmobil. It has been nothing but frustrating. I have just given it one last effort and ordered the best mobil internet antena setup I could find. Last night I have located my tower, and it is about 10 miles away.
Thanks
Yes, ATT is a large suck-fest. No matter the product they tend to fib about pricing. And if you can get someone who speaks vague english, good luck with any follow through. I signed up with their cellular and was promised a fixed monthly of $68 including my military discount. Less than a day later I got an email telling me my first bill would be $133.09 and $133.09 thereafter for the term of the 3 year contract. I cancelled service the next day and could never get a printed or internet/email bill from them. But I did get threats of collection agencies after 3 days. I paid them the $133.09 and am waiting for the collection agency to bill me for the phone I bought on contract because ATT would not send me a printed or email bill I could use to pay from. I know, it's hard for people to believe if they never had this sort of dealing with this company. I didn't believe it ether until it happened to me. The cell companies are not nice people. Not to beat a dead horse but my prior home had ATT fiber optic service with internet and phone together. It was in town and the service was very good but would go out for days at a time when it stormed. I finally went with Visible prepaid with the $30 unlimited hotspot. It used to be $25 but they recently raised the price for new sign ups like me. Even if you don't have a good signal you can get a cell booster antenna and make do with it. Sometimes we get 140 mbps down and 12 up. It varies depending on cell tower usage. But being mostly rural, the tower doesn't get 'congested' very often.
@@RidgeLife I hope your luck continues too, but you haven't had 4G LTE for 20 years, and that, or 5G is what you're recommending since that's what ATT fixed wireless runs on, big difference than old cellular.
Been using Starlink for two years now, started at $99/mo for 200/40... In those two years price jumped to $110/mo then $120/mo.... but speeds have slowed to 100/18 (approx.)
We also are in the middle of the woods in Northern WI, about 4 miles outside of a 200 person village and about 35 miles from the nearest stop light. HOWEVER, a local ISP just did a fiber expansion and pulled fiber to our house for free, and next month they will throw the switch ON to 1GB/1GB symmetrical for $60/month. I love Starlink, but I'm likely pulling the plug on them in a couple months.
Oh yeah! Fiber is the way!
This kills me. I've got a huge Fiber junction box taking up the bottom third of my front yard. There is no fiber available at my house.
I will say, the lack of internet is nice when family visits. I feel like everyone reconnects more when they can get away.
Hello neighbor! I just moved from Washburn! I always wondered what internet people used north of me. I’m now in AZ in an RV looking for internet service I can use for traveling on my RV. I’ve been looking at starlink, but finding mixed reviews… just like every service. Good luck with the new service😊
@@carol1505 When I first implemented Starlink (to replace horrible DSL) it would drop out a couple seconds each day according to the logs.. but over the last year, Starlink has drastically improved coverage... but because of congestion, my rates have dropped quite a bit. If you RV into remote areas, I would think Starlink would be a perfect solution.
As always Tim, you knocked it out of the park. great info and I also use ATT here at my home. Average 47.8 download and 12.2 Upload. Takes me almost no time to upload a video to youtube.
Nice! Thx!
I have 3 Starlink systems and all of them run at 150MB or better. The slowest rates might get down to 100mb. Speeds are improving as more satellites are being deployed.
Very nice! It should be available here soon.
Only 5000 of the over 40,000 satellites are in orbit. So he's judging a system that isn't finished. Notice he never mentioned the ping? Unless you live across the street from a server, Starlink ping will be so much better than any other options including fiber. I get under 32ms around the globe. Imagine 40,000 satellites. Ping would be under 20 to any point on the planet. He also exaggerated line of sight. It's hard to have trees block the signal if it's installed on your roof. I've seen them installed with trees in the way and still get 300 Mbps reliability. He's just an AT&T spokesman. AT&T internet is widely known to have horrible ping, making real time gaming impossible. Look how they purchased DirecTV and completely ruined it.
Fixed Wireless is LTE it's exactly the same as what serves your handset on your cell phone the only difference is how many channels are bonded together the specification is known as cat12 16 or 20
That’s good to know thanks!
I'm prepping a video Starlink vs Hughes Net and came along your video, very nice and educational. I haven't heard of this option before. I wasn't looking for anything having to do with ATT because we don't get any cell service where we are located. Again, nice job and hope you have a successful 2023.
Thanks so much!
G'day Tim.
Really good information in this video. I moved us to Starlink, as fixed wireless, another satellite service and 4G mobile are my only options. Australia does not have unlimited mobile data and 4G is sketch anyway here in the bush.
* 4g mobile data would cost a fortune and reception is not great.
* Fixed wireless offers up to 75 down and 10 up, but it slows down terribly due to congestion (too many users) at peak times and reflections on wet foliage can impact the data being sent. Fixed wireless here depends in line of sight and distance from the tower.
* The satellite option costs a small fortune on data here and speeds are ok and latency is average at best.
* Starlink gives us an average of 200 download and 20 upload most of the time. Severe clouds and rain can reduce speeds, but it's manageable. Storms can cut it out. We don't get many storms thankfully. Initial cost for hardware was painful and monthly subscription is higher than average. Oh and we are fortunate to have a clear line of sight above the horizon it must face.
Having said that, Starlink is up 99% of the time and we have 9 people in this house streaming Netflix etc, gaming and YouTubing constantly and it does not miss a beat. Glad to pay the extra with no affordable option and definitely no cable.
Really enjoyed this video mate. Thanks for taking to time to create it and share.
All the best.
Daz.
Wow! Great information there! Glad it is working out for ya!!!
@@RidgeLife I love the signal, reliability and speeds you get there with your system. Enjoy mate! 👍
Sounds great for fixed internet. We need Wi-Fi for 3 month starting January while in the desert of Arizona. I wish there was something cheaper than Starlink , but I guess that’s all that’s available now . Thx Tim . 💕
It’s still a good option. Good luck!
Ive been using att fixed wireless for 3 years now. It started out fantastic with 50 download and 15 to 20 upload. Now everyone that lives around me has it and the towers full. Most days im lucky to get 7 to 9 download and .7 to 3 upload. But its been decent and reliable so i cant complain about it. Ive been on starlinks waitlist for 2 years now, but there is a new light at the end of the tunnel my light company is running fiber with supposed 1 gigabyte download speed. So fingers crossed on that.
Yeah, they stopped
Letting others get it here but we are still good on speed. Yay! Fiber is awesome!!!
... You wouldn't happen to live in Arkansas... would you? Cuz my electric company is curranty slowly rolling out fiber to everyone...
@@dexterian477 nope im over in mississippi.
My experience with ATT Fixed wireless exactly. Started awesome then they loaded the tower. Now barely adequate to stream with and the fixed cap is laughable for the price. While there is a rural electric company installing fiber to all of their customers in our area, we are one house away in the country and have a different electric provider who is too big to be bothered with services like fiber.
@@MyTechWebTV Have you tried calling that electric company and ask for the highest ranked staff and very nicely beg that they make an exception? Or ask if there's some sort of work around, like switching to that electric provider, if possible... It's worth a shot.
I have at&t fixed wireless too. I live less than a 1/4 of a mile from the tower. Multiple subscribers. Download 12, upload 9 tested a few minutes ago. It usually averages 9 download and 6 upload. I was one of the first to get it and received similar results as you. I saw the speed gradually reduced. I got them to come out and test it and was told that it slowed down due to the number of subscribers. I can still watch RUclips and Netflix so I still subscribe. We've had a few occasions that something has gone wrong at the tower. Pray this doesn't happen on Friday because you'll be lucky have it back by Monday. Fixed wireless customers are not a priority for at&t. It was paid for with a federal grant to bring broadband to rural areas. They got their money and seem uninterested in providing good service or upgrades. I've had fixed wireless for over 3 years and watched service deteriorate steadily. I predict that I'll be cutting trees for Star link before too long.
Ouch! Yes let’s hope StarLink has better support.
@@RidgeLife starlink has zero support. The service is shit as a whole. I just joined a class action lawsuit against starlink.
Sounds like the same old sad story.
uncle Sam, US, pay a lot to telcos and isps to get them to improve, update, and expand service, but there does not seem to be any oversight or correlation between what they receive as incentives and the additional people they serve.
We need another REA - (rural electrification administration) project like they had in the 1930's, to get the entire country connected to broadband - a minimum of 25 mbps, which is minimal anyhow.
Frontier wanted to give me 6 mbps for almost $50 and they been taking plenty of gov. money for years. And doing nothing for it.
@@A-Pa-s-Plainjane Sounds like my story, they get all these grants and nothing improves much here. I am on a grandfathered Verizon plan and when it works its good,but the tower is so congested there are days at 5pm-10pm it drops to .1Kbps which is pretty useless,then at 2am it can see 20Mbps,but who is up then!. i sometimes schedule downloads for last times. Frustrating we cant get anything reliable with a fixed price.
@@a4000t yes sir, some of us remember pre-mobile and pre-internet life, when you called relatives on the other side of the country at 11pm because the phone call rates were cheaper from 11 to 7 am. But the phone companies also had very complicated rate structures ( interstate calls were expensive and intrastate calls could also be expensive). Same type of thing seems to be happening with tv and internet service now. They do not want to provide service.
Another great video Tim. Interesting. We had to install a tower at the ranch to get a signal from above the trees. A real forest there…
It’s a challenge sometimes! Thx!
Something to say at least from my families and my perspective (our properties) I always set up all internet stuff for everyone in the family. For any of these companies/isps/cellular companies is that ideally you want whatever it is; the antenna, the dish, the whatever... up high and in a clear area. No trees blocking it or anything. Then test around that area or another area even if it's a few acres away (on your own property of course) and test it multiple times. Get a power bank like a jackery setup starlink or whatever and just drive around your property for the best possible signal. Once you find the place with the best signal it doesn't matter if it's way out at the edge of your property that's where the dish/antenna needs to go. I have set up nine systems for me and my family so far. I either build or buy a tower (can be made out of whatever but if made out of wood just realize it will eventually rot). I've been using flag poles with a flat base on top for a while now they work pretty well there are limits to what you can do in terms of height but I'd go as high as you safely can. Attach everything on the ground and then put up the pole. At the base you are going to want to get yourself a battery in a weather proof box and get some solar panels and lay them out running all the necessary cables and what not if you don't have power all the way out there.
As more sats are added you may be able to change the position later on, and if you start getting not so good service you should change it. I'm sure your wondering then... "how do I get my router connected if it's half a mile away?" Don't run ethernet... run fiber. People don't realize that you can go on amazon or sometimes even hardware stores and get it ordered in and buy pre-terminated fiber optic direct burial cable for literally $100 for a few hundred meters. You can get even more and run kilometers of it. There are two main kinds of fiber cable single mode and multi-mode. When I first did this setup I ran multi-mode because it was the cheapest and longest I could get at the time without using any specialized equipment to terminate the ends with. However for very very long distances single mode is the go to choice and it's come down in price... AND you can get it pre-terminated on amazon and other stores. I buy cable in bulk from the source (China based/Asia based) just because I can get a ton of it for cheap. I also invested in a thousand dollar single fusion splicer (I do this for a living now for other neighbors who are tired of having horrible internet) I got on amazon. Believe it or not it may seem like a lot but it's really pretty easy to do and will probably only take you a few hours to do even with hand tools (as long as there are no rocks in your path back to your house) I just use a simple spade shovel that goes into the ground about ten inches. I do fifty feet at a time then put the cable in and close up the ground by stepping on either side of it.
At least with Starlink, but also likely the other ISP companies/products you will have to turn off the wifi router in the settings but once you get back to your house you plug the fiber into another adapter that goes out to ethernet and then that goes into your router you have at home.
There is more to it than all that though... devil in the details and all but with a video tutorial or a few on RUclips I think anyone would be able to do it for around $300 and in four hours depending on a lot of factors of course. Your essentially just weather proofing and plugging things in. You don't have to terminate any fiber or ethernet at all. Anyway this is not advice just my personal experiences. I hope it gives someone some help and a starting off point. As far as speed, latency/ping, and jitter goes my family and I get about 200mbps to 265mbps with 35ms ping, and jitter about 65-150ms I have seen similar or slightly less with my family members they don't have commercial grade more DIY routers like I do but it certainly does the job. Peace!!
Great information! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
I've had Starlink for 7 months now and had been nothing but impressed with it...until two weeks ago when the router started going out. Everything I had done wouldn't fix it, the tech support they have is horrible and nobody responds. And for the price of it, I'm fed up. Thank you for this video because I think I have found my answer to my situation. AT&T just put up several towers in my area so I'm optimistic it will be just what I need.
Good luck!
How’d it go!!!
So are you happy now that u switched? Im getting a house out in the country that my local internet provider cant reach and i was recomended starlink...So im interested to hear what people say on here since i know nothing about tech really..
@@ryanr9299 he’s probably not gunna reply tbh but I’ve also heard good things about them, I think it’s a great option even tho I haven’t tried it, currently I’m using a t-mobile 5g home internet which if you live in town or big cities is better than star link but if you live in the country you’ll get good speeds from star link cause the whole town isn’t running on it like a 5g internet, overall I recommend 5g but it’s all situational to where you live and what they offer, I know my area coverage so well cause it’s really bad out here for internet
They eventually got back to me and I had to send the whole dish back for some reason. They sent me a new one, free of charge and waived the bill for that month. I like starlink when it works as it should but when it doesnt its a bear to get it fixed. All together I think its worth it. Still the fastest internet available to my location. We didn't get the AT&T internet like I was expecting.
On our farm, no ISP available , as a youtuber and full time job is a Cloud Engineer so high speed is necessary, our choice was Starlink. It’s been outstanding. Yes, if storms get bad we lose connection. But, reliability is great majority of the time. I’m curious if we have this in our area.
It works well for us!
I live in the desert and having internet for streaming has been so hard! We went the Starlink route just to find out that it's terrible for streaming! But found a local service similar to what you have that uses direct beams
Glad it worked for you!
Fixed wireless is nothing new. I had it from an independent provider for over 10 years at $65 a month with unlimited data. We got VERY reliable 25/5 Mbps. My provider sold out to a local fiber provider that doesn't serve our area with fiber and then shut it down. AT&T and Verizon are the players here but offer no home internet options. We used Visible for a few months and then we discovered we were in a fringe coverage area for T-Mobiles new extended range 5G. I got them to send a "gateway" to test. I was blown away. We are over 4 miles NOT line of sight from a tower. I get consistent 50/8 Mbps speeds. In winter, when the leaves are off the trees, we get closer to 100/15 Mbps speeds. All unlimited data for a fixed $50 a month. No deposits, no installation charge, etc. Occasionally, there is a brief slowing due to a storm or a peak use time but never not useable. T-Mobile is using old 600 mhz tech from UHF television band to get coverage out into rural areas. It penetrates foliage even better than 900 mhz did years ago.
I’m learning more and more. Thanks!
We had that but I cancelled it and got Starlink .It was ok but we never got those kinds of speeds mostly around 25 down and about 5 up.I really like Starlink much better than that we had 400 gb of data I guess it depends on where you are located .On Starlink I get from 60-200 download speeds about 12-15 up we have the dish on a roof no obstructions anymore we did have to get a friend with a buckettruck to help us move it to the right place on the roof after one tree was obstructing it.I really do not miss fixed wireless at all but whatever works for you then you should use it.
Wow! That’s great news it works so well.
Thanks for the great video. I did not know about fixed wireless. When you’re running the speed test on your iPhone know your Wi-Fi is on. So are you going to your Wi-Fi out to the Internet are you using cellular service for the Speedtest that’s my question
I was using the WiFi connection on my phone via the fixed wireless. My cellular connection is no where near that speed unfortunately.
That is great Tim...good to know about other internet services. Have a wonderful day and blessings 💞
Thanks Mary
One thing you did not mention about Starlink is that it tis still in its infancy stage where less than 40% of the satellites have been launched (of 12,000) with a possible expansion of an additional tripling(to 40,000). This means that the coverage and speeds will improve as they increase the satellite numbers.
Yes! It will only get better!
Oh wow !! Thanks for saying that. I don't want to contribute to thousands of satellites being put into orbit.
@@sunnybluesand2730don't worry, there aren't any satellites in orbit. It's a ridiculous notion. "Satellite" technology and GPS have existed since World War 2. Look it up if you don't believe me.
@sunnybluesand2730 I'm pretty sure your irrelevant in the satellite game. You won't change a single thing in the progression or regression.
@@sunnybluesand2730 I’m sorry to tell you but the satellites are getting out into orbit regardless of whether you get Starlink. Not saying this to hate on you at all, just saying if it’s a legitimately better option for you I wouldn’t avoid it
Good info, thanks. By the way, upload/download speeds are in megabits, not megabytes. It’s an 8x difference.
Ha! My mouth gets ahead of me sometimes! Thx!
Good point- that is one of the most misunderstood facts about internet speeds, partially because-
MBps=megabytes,,,Mbps=megabits,
(8 megabits=1megabyte)
But speed of connection is reported in megabits (which makes it a bigger number and sounds more impressive), and quantity of data consumption is reported as megabytes ( or gigabytes). It always confused me until I realized it was two different things or ways of referring to data speed and data quantity.
They should really use only one term.
We have the same thing here Tim I guess it varies where you live, we get 13 down load and 2 up load, Great information Tim 👍
Thanks 👍. Ouch. That's a little low for my liking.
NICE TO KNOW - This system uses Microwave Transmission. I used to set up something similar 20 years ago to give New Homes being built internet access to the Trailer for the builder. Mine pointed at the top of a mountain 30 miles away.
Works great!
Starlink is mainly made for ones that are out nowhere where there are no cell towers or a Fixed wireless (WISP) system in place. So that makes it as it always has been. Not one ISP is for everyone. As for going thru trees depends on the Freq.that is used. As I use 5GHz for LOS clients and 2.4GHz for clients with trees in the way when I set up new WISP clients. I have sent internet wirelessly over miles and getting over 200Mbps.
Great information! Thank you very much.
Did you know you can distribute your signal via an antenna just like a radio signal via WiFi hotspot. If local people set up hubs of Antenna like pirate radio stations used to we could create our own local networks. 🤔👍😜
Whoa! Cool!
That would be nice!
I believe, unlike radio, the more people that would get on a network the slower it would be.
That would be nice!
I believe, unlike radio, the more people that would get on a network the slower it would be.
@@1100wing Correct. Just like it is using masts. They have a 50/1 contention ratio for each channel.. So of your getting 100MB 5000MB is the true downlaod speed. 3G n 4G is much faster than they give us.
Wireless Internet providers would see each device and see where they are on a map and catch on. Don't think Big Corps believe in 'Sharing is Caring.' Just sayin.
Just had ATT come out yesterday to try the Rural Wireless option...couldn't get a good enough signal to connect even though tower is about 8 miles away. It was actually worse on the roof than down at ground level. So disappointing! Been waiting for Starlink for a year.
Oh no. Good luck on StarLink! Hope you get great signal.
@@RidgeLife Hotspot for now.
Clarifying a few things. The speed is mega "bits" per second, not mega bytes, big diff. The service is still 4g LTE and probably will go 5g soon, so essentially it's just like cellular. The frequencies are also very similar so the reason you have great service is just how consumed it is in your area. You can get the same type of service with standard ATT hotspot/carrier (I have this and the speeds are similar to what you show). As far as the trees, those issues would be identical to cellular since it's the same cell technology and frequencies, so if you have good service then again, it's luck and consumption. I suggest people just choose either a WISP alternative or AT&T, but base it on cost and reputation.
Ha! Very true. Mouth ahead of brain there. Thx!
I have a separate hotspot for travel. If I use my phone as a hotspot my speeds are as fast as my phone is. My phone is pretty fast too, my separate hotspot for travel is slower than using my phone as a hotspot. Go figure that one out and it is 5g as well. Adding in, I only use ATT for phone and hotspot date, at home we have Fios and nothing compares to that.
Wow, yeah that’s great
To piggy back on of ops. Comments
The reason sats are more hampered by Los issues is distance and output.
Yout typical residential service uses a 2watt buc (transciever). Than then has to travel 0.5 light seconds.
Versus 4glte and 5g (utilizes the lower half of c band.... man filtering tv station sats for this made me so much money)... are 1 much closer and 2 are either omnidirectional or lobal antennas. This means they are afect less my defraction of atmospheric lending. And able to utilize the buble nature of radio.. as apose to the satalites beam like transmission.
The att air [4g and 5g] and the fixed- wireless 4g only. Utilize ther own antenna system but still meet in the distribution and backbone server, typically at the base of the antenna.
10 down and 1 up is what you expect using there system on 4g.
5g can get up to 140 down and 25 up.
As for what you where told.... the reason they did not want to put it higher is the safety. You have a high pitch metal roof. Regardless if they can mount the system without using a ladder that is the preferred method sense it does not force them to increase safety risks for negligible gain.
I contract out with a few different provider companies for enterprise services.
I will be the first to tell people that trad satalite is good when you have no other option except those cheap point to point Services.
Other than that do what you can do other than trad sats
I live in rural Virginia and was gonna go with Starlink, but just in the nick of time my county installed fiber optic and you can’t get much better with fiber, Unbelievable upload and download speeds.
Wow! That’s awesome.
Can you tell us more, and approx. where ? Is it municipal broadband ?
compared to where I am here in Southwest VA-- you have a GREAT line of sight-- I have hills all over and around me. (which I'm glad off-- because when major storms mess everybody else up-- I can watch them on radar and they break up and go around me!!)
Very true.
Sounds good if you like data caps. No data cap for starlink truly unlimited and clouds don't get in the way. We had a heavy rain storm recently here in washington state and it didn't skip a beat.
Totally agree and mentioned that in the video as well. Thx!
I used to install fixed Wireless with AT&T and it really matters where you put the antenna the higher is the better
I agree thx!
So the att installers lied or did not want use a ladder ?
yea it sounds to me like the installer was to lazy to climb up on the house and put it where he wanted it, I hate people like that.
So true!
They probably don't want to be responsible for poking holes in roof and drip
I have had starlink for a few months and it has been great I’ve gotten like 220 MBPS down and like 20 or 25 up advantage of the round 175 down. I am still 20 up. and now it does have a soft data cap at 1 tb but we normally just use around 400 to 500mb.
Nice!
Is that data cap per month?
Is it true you can't be around trees?
@@cliffarend8455 my antenna is blocked by trees as seen in the video.
@@wurm87 yes
That's great Tim! Very informative. Even in So. Ca AT &T not available in my area😒
Maybe check ATT Fixed Wireless website as separate from regular Uverse.
@@RidgeLife will do, thanks!
Great video love the drone shots I'm considering getting this service I currently use spectrum my downloads are 260 mbps download but I am also paying 105 a month and constant outages
Definitely slower but if close to tower and not many others on it, you should I be good.
Great informative vid. Thank you. Tim, would you happen to know how far you can be from the cell tower? It looks like you are less than 1000 feet!
Miles but more obstruction the worse. Big thing is how many people are on it too. I’m lucky close and few people.
I've had the AT&T fixed wireless service for about 2 years now. It's great and all but you're limited and what you can do with it, for example there is no port forwarding which means there is no online gaming whatsoever along with the upload speeds being comparable to early 2000s DSL. Other than that it's been quite reliable even during severe weather. My only gripe is $69.99 a month for 300 GB and the lack of port forwarding for online gaming.
That so weird as my upload speed is consistently over 10Mbps which is not near as good as my cable at 20Mbps at home but as good as others on Starlink. I am clueless on the port forwarding. Thanks for the info and insight!
@@RidgeLife it all depends on how close you are to your tower, which of the receiver boxes AT&T gave you, how many people are connected to the same tower, having a clear line of sight to the Tower and RF interference in the air.
@@RidgeLife as for the gaming and port forwarding the port forwarding isn't only used for gaming it is also used for example the connection between your Google home and the ability to control your lights cameras etc from outside of the home. Basically port forwarding is anything that lets you connect to something outside of your own personal Network.
Very true points!
@@RidgeLife I got super lucky, I have no neighbors for a couple of miles and the cell Tower is practically in my backyard so I have excellent signal strength on a lightly used access point
The speeds are not all that impressive to be honest but if it’s reliable and fast enough for your needs it’s an option. Looking for options but currently spoiled being on ATT Fiber at 1Gbps up and down for $100 a month no caps. It’s impossible to find anything comparable where the property we are looking to develop is located. That may be about to change though touch wood
You got that right!
I did not know this option existed, thanks for the information!!
My pleasure!
this is great thanks for the thorough review Tim
My pleasure!
Not available in North Idaho. Only other similar option up there is $450/month for any worthwhile bandwidth (for remote work). So I went with Starlink and I’m VERY happy (so far)
Oh yeah! Starlink is great if you can get it.
My Star Link works with clouds. Actually only time it was knocked out for a few minutes was when a storm passed through with a huge down pour... clouds have no effect on performance.
Good deal! StarLink is getting better and better!
@@RidgeLife Facepalm
Glad your back, Tim! Blessings
Thanks Terry
I’m moving back out to our farm and work from home. We’re rural and having extreme difficult time with ISP in area. Have spectrum now , 300msps would at work for me. Thanks.
Good luck!
Speed is 1/8th of what you stated. It's Megabits / second (Mbps), not Megabytes / second (MBps).
Actually, as I continued watching, you bounced back and forth between bit and byte, so I'm guessing it's just slips of the tongue. However, for those watching that may not know, a byte is 8 bits. Your ISP normally measures their speed in bits (small b) instead of bytes (capital B).
Ha! Yeah, sorry I went back and forth there in my units. I think most people new I meant Mbps.
@@RidgeLife just my 2 cents, but most are confused about those terms. I was. It's a fine distinction, made even more muddy by the telcos and isps. And Mbps or mbits/sec should not even be used. Computers do not read "bits",
(a two digit integer), they only read "bytes", a 16 digit integer, the smallest addressable mathematical 'word' used by computer-, (composed of 8 bits of two integers, so a byte ).
Sorry to get too techy, but part of the whole internet availability thing, is the companies take advantage of the confusion, and make it sound like they are our friend in the digital age, and they are not our friend. Verizon and ATT really don't care about America, and I think T-Mo is German.
If they cared really about America, they would not be blowing so much smoke up our behinds.
Man, i am jelous. I have very very limited options. Satlilite was my only option, and that was not worth the money. Starlink seemed too good to be true, and it is. The expected "available in your area" has been getting pushed back every year since it came out. Then, Tmobil began offering in my area. that only worked well for a month or two until they upgraded the topwers to 5G. I have been dealling with extremely slow download, and almost nothing on the upload for about a year or more now. I have just ordered an external antenna setup to see how that works out for us. If it does not work out we may have to move due to just launching an online business. We would like to work from home. This option got me exited! I waited until the end of the video and then went and checked. Not available in my area. i swear I live in a bubble that is stuck in the 1950's
Ugh! I feel ya. We hope ours stays working as so many have said they slow down but we have had it for some time and its just gotten better! Thx
Check out the starlink RV set up. They will ship that even to places that aren't getting residential service yet. We use it and it has been world's better than Verizon, T-mobile, or Hughesnet.
I'm late to the game in replying with this info, but odds are that you CAN get Starlink - waiting list be hanged, but there is a trick to it and it's a bit of a risk. Pick somewhere in the country where it is available for immediate order. Anywhere. Find the Google plus code for that area and use that for your Starlink service address when placing the order, but have the equipment sent to YOUR physical address. There will be no questions asked. The risk is, will you be able activate it in your area? I successfully gamed the system by doing this. It was definitely risky. You might pay all that money for equipment, but then find you are unable to activate it. When my equipment arrived I found I could not activate it using my home address, but by using a plus code in a neighboring Starlink cell I was able to activate and enjoyed good service for quite some time. I was later able to move service to my actual home address. Since then my Starlink service degraded so much that I moved to T-Mobile 5G when I found out it was available and it puts Starlink to shame - at least in my area.
There was a guy in New Jersey who was on the waiting list a few years ago. He ordered using a plus code in Boca Chica, Texas, (irrelevant, but SpaceX Starbase is in Boca Chica), had the equipment delivered to NJ, activated and all worked out well with no problem. I followed his example. Sharing this method of getting Starlink pissed a lot of people off. They claimed I was taking someone else's place stuck on the waiting list. How? I ordered it in an area where it was available, but didn't activate it there so I took nobody's place there. I activated it in an area where it couldn't even be ordered so I didn't take anyone's place there. I'm happy and skin off no one's nose. I felt the whiners just didn't have the guts to try what I did.
Wow that’s nice.
I called AT&T in our area and was told the fixed wireless was load and no spare for another user. So guess that didn’t work for use.
Awe too bad! Working great for us so far. Thx
what is the emf emissions - it would be great to see the EMF/RF readings near the antenna as well as inside the house.
Hmm. Have no idea but there is a sticker on the antenna unit giving the safe distance .
Good information. 😎👍 Personally, I'd spend the $2,000 for the cable internet and even more if I could get fiber. That said, I have a friend I'm sending your information to so he can compare to his unlimited cellular. I'm trying to convince him to get the RV version of Starlink. He's been on the beta list / request list almost day one in the boonies in Ohio.
StarLink really is a good product!
@@RidgeLife .. The biggest problem for him is he plays Call of Duty and his latency can sometimes hit a whopping 1,000 ms and generally around 100ms and often unstable connection, especially at peak hours.
Anyway, thanks for the reply and good luck to you!
Me too but Comcast wants $34,000. Not happening
@@papabapyro8169 .. $34K no but $2K yes. Sounds like you're a good candidate for Starlink.
@@DJaquithFL starlink says expanding in 2023 my area. Nothing right now
Would rather have like TMO home internet at this point. Many at that one mile are hitting 150/300 Download and upload of avg 20/30 with a ping of 50 or below and is available on any cell site without any cable's. As far as star link is concerned that's a whole different story but you'll see about the same speeds as you do on your T-Mobile home internet but the fact is T-Mobile and Verizon home internet are always going to be better than AT&t's wireless because they're setups Plus with starlink that's also extremely far distance and all you're looking at 350 to 550 miles or better just to send information down to earth and then it has to retransmit all that information back up to the satellites and it's got to hit all your different servers and all that good stuff end up heading over 150 milliseconds which is way too high for online gaming even T-Mobile and Verizon's home internet on 5G you may get good downloads great uploads with a low latency but when it comes to any real time applications or gaming that's where you end up running in the issues with these types of services they're just not up the par right now now streaming on the other hand that's a completely different story because that's not as sensitive but basically everything else you do online when it comes to gaming and wanting to live streaming all that good stuff T-Mobile and Verizon's home internet still tops what you have any day. Plus the problem is this is not rapidly available and most parts of the United States. And the issue is if you don't have AT&t in your area there's no way form to hook up that copper line which is very interesting that they even bothered to hook that up because if AT&t was smart enough they could just offer home internet like Verizon and T-Mobile are.
Great information thanks!
I’m definitely going to check it out and see if it is available here! Thanks!
Hope you like it!
Quick question....can you confirm that the connection from the outside antenna equipment to the inside router is only one ethernet connection (POE, I assume)? I'm considering getting the service at my new house. I already have one CAT 6 cable from outside where I think the antenna would go that terminates in my office. I'm hoping to not have to have any additional cabling install so that's why I'm curious. Thanks in advance!!!
They installed it all. It’s coax from outside antenna to router.
@@RidgeLife Thanks!!
Just a friendly suggestion, cut out all of the extra stuff and just get the point. Nice quality videography like yours doesn’t need to be drawn out forever by too much extra fluff. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the tip!
Amen! In love with the sound of your voice? Sorry, but dayum.
Good advice for most YT ppresenters!
I think the reason why fixed wireless doesn't need line of sight is they using frequency 900mhz or below
for transmission
Yep, but now T-Mobile is using even better 600 mhz for 5G and expanding like crazy in rural areas.
I didn’t know that thanks!
Nice!
@@theknob1 if t-mo continues to expand and cover more of our nation, then they will become the #1 company, afa I can tell. At least they're a little more transparent, but all three are exaggerating about the 5g coverage.
@@theknob1 5G is in the MM (millmeter) range and not really available yet. It is sort of a scam by all of the phone operators and only in select cities in a test range for now (example Austin,Tx.) The MM range only travels a small distance, hence it needs towers everywhere to work at very fast speeds. What you are getting today from the phone companies is sort of an enhanced 4 1/2 G is the best way for me to explain it. If you doubt my words read the ads on all the phone companies very close and you will see words like almost, someday, etc. Another example of 5G REALLY in use was this years super bowl. Such a small area was easy (couple million dollars) to put the antennas to cover every inch of the stadium with 5G as signal did not have to travel very far. So 5G does exist... read the fine print folks but it is coming.
You are quite the salesman. Excellent content and great editing. You present like an educator. Thanks again
Wow, thank you!
Hi, I’m in Rural Western Australia.. completely off grid. With virtually no cell phone signal either. Just this week I got sky mesh installed. I believe it would be a similar thing it’s fixed wireless Internet. They came out and put a little dish on my roof. It looks similar to your one. The install was free and also the equipment. I pay AU$85 a month for unlimited downloads.
So far, the speeds of been pretty good too
Sounds very similar. Good luck!
@@RidgeLife thanks mate, its kinda surreal to be back online again. lol..
best of luck to you too
😄
Hi there thanks for this information! Do you know if this unit is available in Canada (most likely be with a different provider)?
I think AT&T are actually converting to something else now.
I just checked that out and found out this internet service is only for business only , not for personal . So sad.
Hmm. That’s weird as we are residential. We have the home setup and it shows that on their website. ATT Fixed Wireless.
I know from experience that AT&T lie about their services to different people. My parents have a wifi service through them right next door, yet they tell me that they don't offer that same service to my area. And different stores and employees tell you vastly different things.
I have fixed internet and I also got starlink and I also have the T-Mobile home internet box at the end I stayed with the starlink and canceled the other two fix Internet was through AT&t and they had data caps so that one was a no-brainer to get rid of cuz I wasn't planning on paying more for extra data and T-Mobile was all right but at the end of the day starlink was better than T-Mobile. I live out in the desert there is no internet choices other than cell towers or hues and viasat tried them they suck they each didn't last longer then 6 months I dumped them fast worst service ever.
Yes. If StarLink available
, it’s almost always the remote location best choice.
Can i get tgis installed on a sprinter van? I do cargo loads all over the usa i wonder if it would be good everywhere
I don’t think so.
@RidgeLife
You have had your AT&T Fixed Wireless for a while now. Do you have an update for us on your service and connection you could report on? Thank you
It’s the same or a little better actually. No issues for some time.
0:39 Wrong. Tmobile Home Internet on 4g cost $50 per month, taxes included, ZERO throttle NEVER. No hardware cost, self install (plug into wall outlet). Running 2 laptops, streaming 3 TVs, 4 phones, 1 PC hardcore gamer at 110 mbps download. 30mbps upload. You're living in the past. AT&T is a joke.
Thanks for the information. Fixed Wireless may be old news to you but just became available here and works great without any wires!
@@RidgeLife I guarantee AT&T will keep raising the price and lowering the quality.
I’m glad you’re happy with your service.
I’m even more glad I’m didn’t fall for your sales pitch.
I’ll keep my Starlink. FYI your numbers on Starlink are much better then your advertising.
Have a good day!
Oh I’d pick starlink too if was available!
Grrrrr Upload 👍🏻 on a throttle down 👎🏻
Very informative. Thank you. ✌🏻😎
Welcome!
How is the Pornhub connections?
Asking for a friend.
Ha! Too funny!
People need to stop accepting these data limit caps, which give you no ability to be your most creative self. And just because a rich person accepts it, the same is imposed on poor people.
Very true.
Huh?
Am dealing with over 100 locations all over the US. Looking into this technology now. Looks good paying as much as $300 a month always looking for on the go internet and unusual new tech and this tech is new! Love T-Mobile gateway! Why? It’s portable and you take it with you the router antenna looks like a speaker so take it on a plane or an RV.
Portable sounds great!
Thanks Tim! I’ve been thinking about getting away from AT&T but now I’m going to reconsider! I do have a local internet service with fiber optic’s and it works pretty good but we’ve been thinking about canceling them. We’ve missed you and your lives, hopefully you come back soon!
Ooh! Fiber is the best. Is it expensive there? Awe thx!
@@RidgeLife we have to pay for house phone so it’s around $40 then the internet is around $40 so not bad I guess. We have a mom and pop phone co that offers it
T-P is taking his starling from Texas where it worked good and now he halfway around the world using it and traveling around using it , and it’s working fine
Nice!
I am staying at an Airbnb way out in the country far from any towns. I cannot see any towers nearby. They have T-Mobile home internet here. It is pretty good. Consistency is good. Downstream runs between 60 and 120Mbps. The only downside I see is that the upstream is 3-6 Mbps. Still it has been nice to have adequate, reliable internet while on vacation.
Yes. That's great!
I was SATCOM for the military...there's a lot of variables with satellite. Sounds like ATT might be a TROPO technology...where the signal bounces off of the troposphere...in a nutshell.
Very cool! Thx.
Good information. We are about to cut our Century Link subscription because they sold it off to Brightspeed and we all know that's how they screw up services & raise prices. Our price pachage is locked in at a really low price.
So I expect a big jump to stay with their marginal service.
Can't get Starlink right now where we are, North Central Texas, but may try AT&T Fixed, as that's who our current cell phone provider is now. But, we are about to start doing more RV Traveling and I think Starlink will be a better choice for our mobile internet needs. Many of our RV Friends love it.
This maybe worth looking into.
So hoping Elon gets Starlink over us soon. I hear Starlink slows down as well as the subscriber # increase.......
Yes if you are mobile, StarLink may be the way to go.
That's good for your location. Xfinity is in my neighborhood and my speeds are 495 download and 39 upload on a TV cable. It does go down when like a hurricane goes through.
That's great!
I would look into the radiation or rf signal coming off of that antenna and asked to have it put higher on the house,
There is a warning label on it for the safe distance. Thx!
is there a max distance from tower limit? would this be suitable for RV?
I’m sure there is but don’t know it. No as it’s a fixed system.
I was told by our local ATT guy that our DSL will be cancelled within the year. I signed up for Starlink on the first day it became available, and our fixed wireless (ATT) seems to be full at this point. We are close to the towers. We have a home in which I need to use an Orbi (mesh system) to get the DSL coverage here. So, which ever is available to me first (Starlink/ATT Fixed) I will need to jump at. Does the Router supplied by ATT offered the inputs to use my Orbi?
It has RJ-45 ports. Is that what you need?
@@RidgeLife The ports it uses are Ethernet ports. These are what are used with the Orbi RBK50 models.
@@helenturgeon403 I’m pretty sure ours has it.
I haven't seen this with AT&T before, but am familiar with other WISP companies. I'm guessing that's what this is. Is that correct?
Yes, I believe that is correct.
Just checked availablity in TN we are moving to the area between Shelbyville and Lynchburg.... Sadly not available right now...
Good luck!
@@RidgeLife Thank you! 16 horses and one cow 🐄
Great and informative video Tim. Lol, I’m also a Blood blood fan. Take care and God Bless👍💕🇺🇸
She watched it all the time!!! Thanks.
Something to think about 🤔
Good video Tim 🤙🏼😁👍🏼
Thanks Eric!
As always wonderful video Tim 💚
So nice of you! Thanks!
So did you consider T mobile? It just needs a plug for power and no other wiring or gear for connectivity. It never throttles the speed, or raises its prices. I would be curious to see if you have a good and reliable signal in your neck of the woods. This way I could determine if it could work on an island off the coast of California. It’s also portable, so if you took it on the road. You’d still have a wifi connection. Provided to still have power connection as in a solar powered generator.
No T Mobile tower out here.
I'm glad that solution is best for you but I will forego internet before I will ever use AT&T again.
I have their mobile device and works great out here too! Thx
I'm currently in Idaho in a temporary living situation, but I work from home. I need to find internet service fast. My job keeps asking me to get an ethernet cable connected to my system, but I can't due to my living situation. Any suggestion?
StarLink may be the best option.
I get 18 with my internet but would like more. I will check it out!
Good luck!
Here is my question. What happens if the grid goes down and what I mean by that is your cell tower. Again meaning is something happens to the cell tower your internet is doomed. This video is excellent though. Hopefully nothing will ever happen to your tower provider. For me and our North Eastern Tennessee homestead, since our house pad was created and trees cleared, we have a total open space here on our acreage in the Appalation mountains. I desire to eventually be totally off grid if possible. I agree with you that your wonderful system can out do Starlink. Great job on all you nicely shared. But like you also said, some of us will choose something else. For me and my family and how the world is headed, if cell towers were to go down, I believe satellite internet will keep us connected when everyone else’s internet is down. But, I love everything you shared. Great video. It’s important for each and everyone of us to do what he or she believes is best and this video is absolutely doing just that. Thanks for sharing. Wayne
The tower has a generator but yes satellite may be more reliable.
Do you have a link for AT&T fixed wireless to see if it is available in my area...How did you get around 2036 installation date ?
I went to this site. www.att.com/internet/fixed-wireless/ We called support and got the installation date corrected.
How did you get them to come out and check your area? im not in the middle of the woods and the website still says unavailable.
Only after it was available online, did they come out. Good luck!
That drone footage was very cool!
Glad you liked it!
It looks like you're only a few miles from the tower which makes you somewhat unique, around here in Washington you can easily go 20 miles or more before you see another cell tower depending how far away from a city you are. I've had Starlink since the Beta so I have the older round antenna and I recently changed to their Gen 3 router and am getting a little over 200 Mbps download, it does cost me $115 mo but that's far less than I used to pay for cable, my data limit is way more than I could ever use so I'm pretty happy with Starlink as my main internet.
That’s great!
Greetings from Northeast Ohio. Thank you Tim. This was very interesting.
Thanks!
I’m rural and on T-Mobile home internet. No antennas outside. I have their little gateway sitting on a table next to a window. I just ran a speed test this morning and I got 418 mbps down and 12.8 up. $40 a month unlimited no contract or installation fees.
I also have their app so I can log into my gateway wirelessly with my cell phone and look at all the stats and preform other task.
That's awesome!
I'm trying T-Mobile's Wireless LTG- LITE program for 100Gb a month for $50/mo no installation or initial fees. I'll let you know how well it turns out. The cell towers are all both within 3-5 miles from my remote location.
Good luck! Thx!
Great info! Thank you.
My pleasure!
i've installed starlink. so far, no trees need removing, and no word of drop outs. not cheap but not had any one complain. I'm in Australia though. i don't have it only for cost and no need for super fast internet.
Very nice! Keep us posted!
Ok Wow I'm impressed 👍.. except maybe for the data cap. I'm on Cox and a few years ago they also added data caps, that really ticked me off 😡... They offer an unlimited data plan for a ridiculous amount of money 🙄.. Does At&T also offer an unlimited data plan?
I had cox too in socal and I hated when they added the cap ! So annoying !
@@3MISSISSIPPI I know right!! 😡
They don’t currently for fixed wireless but the regular inverse does. Yeah the caps blow!
I had this same equipment it was Great! That was until AT&T Upgraded the tower to 5G only! This system only works with 4G, Hopefully AT&T updates their fixed wireless internet to 5G?
Ugh! That’s terrible. Good luck.
I think Starlink still good for us out in the boonies .
200 speed at minimum better than 12 or less with others I had. And no clouds and storms do not affect it .
Ours is on a 70 foot pole
Storms affect all my friends Starlink in Arkansas but its still better than most other options.
i'm glad it's working well for you, but one thing, regardless of you being happy and using nowhere near the download limit, there should never be a download limit.
Oh I agree! No download limit or point at which they throttle you!
I've had at&t for 3 years now. Over time the signal degraded to not working at all. Moved it twice on the roof. Across the street it works because the treeline is further away. But no power over there. Need a way to do poe from 12v and solar.
Maybe more people on the tower too.
It wouldn't connect on band 30 anywhere on my roof or in my yard. I guess the trees grew tall or something on the tower shifted. Connects to band 2 only which has no internet on the service.
@@eeledahc oh no!