A NAS Powered by a USB Battery Pack - SHOULD YOU BOTHER?
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Video Chapters
00:00 - The Start
00:30 - Disclaimer!
01:05 - WHO Would Power a NAS with a USB Power Pack?
02:00 - Why Not Use a Mobile Wireless HDD?
02:40 - WHY Would a User Power a NAS with a USB Battery?
03:20 - Why Not Just Use a UPS?
04:05 - Test Setup
04:40 - The Perfect USB Power Pack for this task. Shargeek
05:50 - How to Connect a NAS CPU to a USB Power Pack over USB-C?
06:40 - SSD vs HDD NAS
07:49 - SSD NAS Test (Idle)
09:16 - SSD NAS Test (Active)
10:45 - HDD NAS Tests
12:48 - SHOULD You Run a NAS on a USB Power Battery?
“The Bigger the NAS, the BIGGER the electricity bill!” - THAT was what a fellow visitor of a trade show I attended back in 2019 said to me as I waxed lyrical about the hardware of a new Xeon Powered Synology solution that was being previewed at the time. I have never really forgotten about that. Not only because (at least, at the time) I thought that it was rather cynical, but also because, sadly, he was absolutely correct. As different NAS servers arrive, with bigger and better CPUs, greater and great bay numbers and larger and larger chassis - the more power they will end up consuming when in operation 24×7. Even in Standby/Idle, they are still acting away at your mains powers and ultimately adding small 0.0001s to your energy bill. Right now, in this energy-aware climate, it can be appreciated that a NAS drive (a 24×7 appliance) seemingly has its cost to the end user in terms of electricity as something of a vague number. With so many kinds of NAS available in the market, featuring a mix of CPUs, PSUs, Bays and utilities, PLUS the wide range of HDD/SSD drives in the market to choose from - there are just so many variables when trying to work out how much power your NAS drive is using and how much that is translating to in your monthly energy bill! So, today’s article is about working out how much electricity the popular Synology DS1621+ NAS and four WD Ultrastar 10TB HDDs will consume, as well as how much that equals to you in £, $ or € per day, month and year! We tested the popular 2020 generation desktop 6-Bay NAS system, connected them to an energy monitor and worked out how much power they used in full active use and in idle. Let’s begin.
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Excellent presentation. Thank you. In the booming age of Bluetti/Jackery/Pecon/Ecoflow, having lots of AC/DC power on the go is really simple. These devices can power the NAS along with your computer, printer, phone, speakers and a small fridge if you want.
probably you want to use dc power and not convert it to ac first and back.
That was awesome. I didn't expect you to say "no" at the end. You Shyamalan-ed that video.
12 v power is easy for backup power, I had years an 10ah 12v led battery with a charger powering the router and a small server. I used to live in a place with some power outage so it keept the system always up.
Having an power bank is maybe better for light weight and easy to charge if you on the go, but if I was in that situation I probably go with 12v lifepo4 battery and carry around an battery charger for that 🤔
type c to barrel ? That's wild.
but honestly that opens up a whole slew of options for other devices. Good idea !
what he showed is not even what it can do - there are already cables: "USB-C to barel with 5,9,12,20V" output! with built in PD "cheater"
I'm interested if shargeek supports power passthrough(basically nas mode or function like solar controller) ? If that is the case it could be super cool to use in in combination with some portable solar power array. In ideal conditions they could supply enough power for this thing for the entirety of the day and then barely survive the night without turning it off. You could also just make something even smaller that the synology NAS. Like why not ? Just make something small and tightly integrated and here you go. Small solar/battery powered NAS with WIFI cellular data that can be put in to a backpack and backed up over the internet. I can imagine some special unicorns that would maybe want something like this. It would also be very cool of grind NAS. There would be some challanges but nothing that cannot be resolved. I know these are very specialized usecases but they are still very cool.
one big power source should be more effitionat then several small brics. That is if you do not have many dc-dc conversions.
super interested in your version of it
Interesting subject to which I worked on in a previous life.
Back than it was a vehicle to be fitted with various cameras and a NVR functionality was required next to some legal requirements which I can't go into here.
There weren't rugged NAS available (today they are still rare and sometimes really expensive) so we opted for regular NAS, indeed SSD's (because of moving vehicle), and in the end worked out that using a 12v/24v to mains voltage inverter, indeed also including a UPS, was the most cost-effective & workable solution.
The UPS was able to supply the grunt of the powerdraw, and, if needed, shutdown the NAS gracefully, protecting the data and the hardware.
I do believe that if you need a "NAS solution" on the go, using SSD's/NVMe's in a (USB?) type-scenario could be a valid alternative solution.
Bottom-line; with some creative thinking you can find a solution for pretty much any scenario where you would possibly want/need a NAS (and/or extensive storage solution)
IMHO, it is a matter of costs, efforts, effectiveness and how user-friendly a solution can/must be, and finding the right parts/kits that fit your needs...
Interesting concept. USB-C PD is very flexible.
I use a LiIon power pack to run my laptop. I get about 8-10 hours of software development use when I'm on the road. I keep two of them with me. I use the Voltaic V250
if you are "mobile" you will most likely have some LipoFe4 battery banks either 12/24/48v... you can run it from there... as you rightfully mentioned ... every W counts... hence - SSD only... nwme.. it has additional bonus... size... on the mobile scenario size does matter - every inch counts ;)
hence idea of running nas from power bank from my perspective is no go.
happy to see a material on POWER!
Ecofloew river 2 i guess is suitable size of power pack, and almost same price well 220€, should run the thing reliably. But poweratations should imitaze UPS , support USB safe shutdown. I really look forward to this series, especially solar😮😅.
That's quite odd - it showed it as supplying 20v and it should be able to supply some 4amps or so there, so I guess the spike in load to kick up the drives must have been too much for it to handle all at once.
I've definitely run my miniPC off USB power banks (an Anker jobby, the 140w one) and it doesn't grumble when it goes from 5-10w idle to a 30w CPU load if I fire up a benchmark. Perhaps it just has more robust power delivery?
The cause of the HDDs not able to spin up is the USB power protocol. Basically, without communication there ist a limit set in the USB protocol. I believe it is 1,5A. So with the 12V the maximum power draw is 18W. If the power draw is higher, the power supply will cut power.
There is no difference in using a wall plug, USB power bank or a large capacity power bank as long as you provide the power with USB.
Communication: The max. ampere is 1.5A (not sure about that number, maybe only 1A). If the devices talk to each other, then the power draw can be higher - this is to make sure both devices and the cable support the power draw of up to 100W.
So basically, to use the power of USB PD, you have to connect a USB device to the charger.
Thank you, sir. It's interesting.
Chargers are only tested to last a few hours, the time needed to charge a phone. They may quickly wear out if used continously. The hottest resistor is usually placed next to a capacitor, for absolutely no reason.
Those small lithium ion packs would make a good dedicated ups if they could communicate with the nas
Maybe a dumb question, but how does the power bank negotiate the PD when you attach a barrel jack to the USB-C connector.? I'm guessing that it doesn't, so can you manually set the delivery voltage on the Shargeek?
I'd prefer to have an ups that runs on batteries and connects to NAS to report the battery life. I use a regular UPS with my 720+ NAS and the whole setup is huge. I want to have a small sized backup power for my small NAS.
Doesn't that power bank let you set the voltage output by the barrel connector? You should be able to set that to match the NAS input voltage and it should perform much better than relying to USB C.
Your DC power brick should tell you what your voltage and amperage are. If your brick says 19V at 5A which equates to 95W, then just multiply how long you want it to run. So if you want 1 day of runtime then you would need like a 2.3Kwh battery at 19V to run nonstop for one day.
Ups+modem+router+nas is my way.
This is really where a RaspberryPiNAS is a great solution
Using it with HDDs would work if you were using a NAS that accepts 19-20V DC (a 20V PD trigger adapter must be used for this, not the 15V adapter you have), because the USB-PD standard stipulates that the full 100W can only be used at 20V (but 60-100W is only needed to absorb the power peaks when the HDDs spin up).
USB PD 3.1 list
Volts / Amps (max.) / power (max.)
------------------------------------------------------------
5V | 3A | 15W
9V | 3A | 27W
15V | 3A | 45W
20V | 3A | 60W
20V | 5A | 100W
12:32 clearly says 20.13 V 0.52 A supplied to USB C1. - so it's 20 V PD trigger.
so idk where your "not the 15V adapter you have" is coming from
@@stclaws9580 You are right, it's 20V not 15 a mistake on my side, but the DS223 only has a 12V input so that is probably the problem.
Hmmm 🤔
Never really thought about bringing a nas around with a battery pack. Its sounds crazy but this actually opens a lot of doors 😲
It's nice to have a database that's mobile :p
It is reminiscent of the server ship in "The 3 body problem".
I'm curious if this could power a Macmini silicon.
does "macminii silicon" have DC input for power? i can see it has AC power.
@@stclaws9580 Just AC as far as I know, but there are DC to AV inverters. You would have to power that with USB-C. Or design something else. I've seen Ben make many thing portable that were not meant to be.
calling capacity in just "milliamps" and not "milliamp-hours" is about the same, as calling car speed as just "miles" or "kilometers" (instead of miles/h or km/h) - doesn't make much sense
WTF is a KILOMETER !? *ehm* Now let me rephrase it. WTF is a MILLIAMP-HOUR !? Aren't watt-hours basically the best ? There is no need for conversion and if you count for loses like 20%(80% efficient) then you can easily calculate how long something will last. I agree though milliamps are awfull. I hate them and, i do not understand why they are still used besides just people being already used to them.
@@likilike501 "wtf is a milliamp-hour" - it the capacity you can see on battery.
yes. watt-hours are the best.
yet, milliamp-hours is a still valid expression of capacity for known battery voltage.
so your "wtf is" is unwarranted.
@@stclaws9580 I did not mean it in any bad way. I guess it was an attempt but in the end it was a bad joke. "milliamp-hours is a still valid expression of capacity for known battery voltage." that is what i do not like. You need to take voltage in to account too.
But the real question is, can it run Crysis?
Einstein mode ON: Power nas via powerbank, connect powerbank to nas'es usb port for charging. Infinite energy! 🤪
Einstein mode OFF.
the usb-c to barrel jack adapters, is cosntand power, it is bad for the power banks
how exactly is it bad for power banks?