Steam does not have a fixed number of users, I don't think many people are downgrading. I believe more people are just upgrading and buying into 16gb and 1080p from nothing or lower specs. If 1000 people bought their first PCs at 1080p it would reduce the relative percent of 1440p users even if no one downgraded.
You have to put Samsung's Odyssey curved monitors into the equation. They break after like 2 months and then they refuse your warranty. And considering that they are among the most popular 1440p monitors...
@@masterkamen371 It's a shame too since waaay back in the day their monitors were bullet proof. The 4x3 Samsung monitor I bought back in high school still worked just fine till my parents stopped using it a few years ago.
The amount of people in these comments thinking Dawid was serious about his reasoning saying people where downgrading is funnier than the actual video.
To be fair it's still a fairly valid point. People should learn how hardware in their PC works, so they can fix it if there are issues instead of relying on a limited tech support. I bet most people buying prebuilds don't even know the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 speeds.
Yeah, wanna bet it's all the people who saw the price of the PS5 Pro and said "fuck that" ? Nah, I'm kidding, console gamers will never learn. They love paying $80 for a gamepad.
As a fellow non existant user, i am not offended but I am amused. I will go back playing some games now. My non existant existance is of no concern to me, BC I don't exist. Also trolls can't find you, or so I am told.
it's not that , other stuff doesn't exist it's just used in such a small percentage of steam users that it fits into the "Other" box ... like my 4080 super.
The slight down-tick in RAM is because the steamdeck is 16gb. It's probably not even truly people "downgrading" but just more 16gb systems being added to the stats. I think the 2nd most popular handheld is the ROG Ally and that ALSO has 16gb
@@volvo09sure, it’s popular among people who actively game, but dwarfed by the number of us filthy casuals who have Steam installed on all of our machines but rarely actually use it
You assume that all the people in the survey have always been in the survey but new users exist so just because 1080p increases in share it doesn't mean every user upgraded or downgrade, many are first time users probably especially in the fall when kids go off the college and stuff. STATISTICS!!!!
the survely leaves you to guess what happens they dont say if it is a new user or a old user, how many users were in tuere, i never get a message if i want to participate in the survey these numbers say very little to me
My whole system is amd. I runs a 3600x, 7800xt and four 8gb ram sticks, it’s may not win a popularity contest or beauty pageant or really anything, but it works
You got a good solid set up, bro. You could still swap out the CPU and get a nice boost too. No reason to if you are happy with it. IDK but I am quite happy with mine giving me ~100 FPS or so in the games I do play. Monitors are the limiting fsactor BTW, only up to 100Hz. Have fun.
I'm looking to upgrade shortly to a 7800xt with a 3700x so almost the same so good to see - what PSU do you have? Will leave a CPU upgrade for a while, think when that is needed I'll change to AM5 or whatever comes next!
Mine's got a 7900 XT and a R9 5900X with 32gb of RAM. Pretty decent rig for VR, and only really plan on the next upgrade being an X3D chip on AM6 whenever that happens.
@@gorillagroddgamingPeople do this every release of windows - it's cool to hate on the new windows and be that giga chad hipster user still using windows 3.1
well, i voluntarily installed win 11 on my gaming pc, but just because i play only there, nothing else, my personal pc is still on win 10 and if possible, i will move it to linux
Just got my new PC delivered to me on Saturday there, went with a budget offering and ended up with a Ryzen 5600 & RX6600 8GB with 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance at 3600mhz plus gen 4 nvme 1 TB drive and Windows 11 Home. It seemed to be a nice price to performance balance (but I am no expert).
@@MoultrieGeek The 6600 will give 1080p around 100 FPS in mnay many games. OP might have to drop settings a bit here and there but TBH it is just fine. And the CPU could still be upgraded and no reason to make any other changes right now.
Good on you. Decent system, nicely balanced for 1080p. Still could upgrade theCPU should you need a few more cores. For a new out-of-the-box system, you be in good shape. Hace fun, game on!
@@richardgarrett2792 Agreed, for the vast majority of 1080p games a 6600 runs great, it's only a handful of AAA games that insist on forcing ray tracing that it will stumble.
Doesn't really make sense imho. The recommended spec for a ddr5 system is 32gb owing to the reduced bandwidth of 8gb ddr5 dimms. Unless prebuilt companies have been gimping their systems with 2x8s and 1x16s... More likely it's just more 5600+16gb/12400+16gb/AIO handhelds being thrown into the system.
I know a few people who sold their 1440p monitors for a 1080p higher refresh rate one, they're dirt cheap now so you get money in your pocket and a decent monitor, especially if you're only playing competitive games.
idk, I have my 1440p monitor for a few years, and I'm not going back to 1080p. Not unless it's get broken, at least. And it's already 165hz, which is waaaaaay more than enough for me.
I don't think people are down grading. What could be happening is more new PC owners are coming in at 1080 while some 1440 users move up and on. Also worth noting the other devices entering steam like the steam deck.
While I don't exist, in my defense, the i3-13100F perform about the same if not, better than the i5-12400F in games that can't utilize more than 8 threads
I wonder if it is people like me that are buying used LGA1150 boards with used i7 4770k and used gtx 1070-1080 then throw them in a new case and power supply. Around $250 and it runs everything i want.
I see this as an absolute win tbh Games built to run on any potatoes are games that eventually build culture. When your game demands a $300+++ GPU downpayment to run, you're pricing out a lotta kids- kids who would otherwise be raving about your game all the way to school.
I wonder how many chances in the process of making this video dawid's brain had to come to the realization the numbers of systems and users aren't static. It's probably at least in the double digits. Tragic, the venereal diseases he accumulated finally took its toll.
The specs “getting worse” is not downgrading but non-tech geek subscribing to Steam driving up middle of the road spec that are very common on affordable pre-builts. Love your channel!
Man, i did so much to disappear from the charts with an AMD 3700x, AMD RX 6800 16G, 1440p display on Linux Mint 22, but you got me with the 16G RAM. There we have it, i am mainstream.
Specs getting worse might mean more people building (budget) PCs. That means more affordable/cheaper/less powerful PCs in the wild, changing percentages.
Nothing weird with 1080p still being popular, it strikes a decent balance between looking nice while still being affordable in terms of running a new game on max settings.
My take: 1440p / 4K medium looks better than 1080p high and uses about the same amount of processing power. With 4K on a 27/28" display AA can be switched off, which regains some of the losses.
The survey isn't intended to primarily show people upgrading or downgrading their systems. In order to do this, it would have to survey the exact same people in this survey as in the prior. It's merely meant to show the current hardware of steam users. Though a small percentage of the downgrades may reflect existing users, it more than likely is the result of new users in the survey.
The 1650 was used by many of the prebuilt companies for their lower-end "gaming" systems. Stick one of those and some RGB fans in an otherwise office box and you have a "gaming" PC. Plenty of people are still using them, so no surprise it was 4th.
6:00 I think what's happening is that more and more people are stepping away from desktop CPUs and switching to gaming laptops as their "primary" gaming rig - hence the mobile RTX 4060 being the #2 most popular GPU. As most gaming laptops are still 1080p, that explains the gain in 1080p and loss in 1440p. It's also not necessarily that people are moving away from 1440p, it's just that the market SHARE of 1440p goes down as the amount of people on 1080p laptops go UP. All that aside, even for PCs, 1080p monitors are still really popular on the budget range, or people thinking they don't need anything more.
Maybe they have 8gb cards that work much better at 1080p, not everone spends $800+ for 1440p card its much easier to buy $100 monitor or maybe have one gathering dust from a 1440p upgrade
while there are alot of lost souls buying laptops for gaming, it is more likeoy that numbers of steam users increased alot and they have potato pcs usibg barely 1080p with 16 gbs of ddr3 ram
I think the 1080p monitor and the 16 gb of ram has gone up while their superior version went down, because a lot more people are making new PC's with 16gb of ram and buying 1080p monitors so they go up while the total of 32gb or 1440p stays the same so there are less of them in total
An important thing to remember is that it's a survey. Small fluctuations from one survey to the next is normal, depending on the sample and sample size. I don't know if they release the confidence level. What would be more telling for trends is if you look at them over a longer period of time than one month. Then, you remove even more survey variance.
32gb going down means it only goes down relative to the total number of systems on steam, so the total number is rising, but not as fast as total system number is rising. And considering for under 1k€ you can get 7500f, 16gb ddr5 prebuilts with 40 series or 7000 series GPUs, its easily explained. Same with resolutions. And considering I know multiple people who "downgraded" from 1440p144 to 1080p360/480/540, this also explains stuff
I would imagine the increase in 1080p is because new gamers are buying entry level gaming rigs,,, and 1080p is the resolution to have for a 100 dollar monitor.
3:09 too many people buy prebuilts, and OEMs like to shove intel in prebuilts. Especially now that intel is imploding and people building pcs are buying AMD, creating an oversaturation of unsold intel chips, that probably get sold in bulk for a discount to OEMs to get rid of them.
people still using Intel cause older 12th gen is in the sweet spot of price to performance where AMD refuses to reduce it's prices for 5000 series (at least in my country)
I’d really like to see the absolute numbers of machines in each spec category, as I think change year-to-year on that probably tells us more about the dynamics of how hardware is changing. Proportional breakdowns are only useful alongside that for the bigger picture.
The answer to the 1080p question is most normal to older games require you to have a lower resolution for a bigger UI. More people are playing those older games lately like dragon age origins.
I just ordered Innosilicon's Fantasy II or the Fenghua II on AliExpress. It's a PowerVR video card. It appears that it is Linux only at the moment. Looking forward to messing around with it.
For intel's share of CPUs, we must not forget that a big part of the world are third-worlders so they might get a good deal for PC components which are considered "e-waste" in the West, but they can still play the biggest games on steam and stuff
It's not that 2k monitor or Amd cpu or 32gig ram is being downgrading, the main thing is more people are getting intel cpu, 16gig ram and 1080p monitor because all of them are available at quite a reasonable price and with great value and most of the people build a budget gaming pc like i5 12400f, rtx 4060, 16gig ddr4 3200mhz or ddr5 16gb 6000mhz single stick (since16gig is quite a standard for ddr5 ) and 550watt psu with a 1080p monitor like Gigabyte G24F-2 which offers great value. With this kind of specs you can easily play any aaa games on 1080p high settings 60fps at such a great budget of around $700
@DavidDoesTechStuff STEAM does NOT REPORT AMD CARDS! It reports the CPU's combined GPU. So all those Intel CPU/GPU's are actually, most likely AMD. When my STEAM hardware updated on my 3 AMD systems, all 3 reported the GPU as the INTEL CPU/GPU. Not the AMD card that was in each of the 3 systems. I confirmed this when Facebook survey of AMD owners who updated their STEAM hardware profiles and ALL OF THEM stated that STEAM reported their CPU / GPU or NO GPU at all if they had an F skew or an AMD 5000's or below CPU.
The percentages can go down or up even if overall number of users change. If 1000 people would buy PC with 1080p resolution percentage for 1080p would go up and rest of them would go down. That doesn't mean anyone downgraded their system. It just means the overall Steam userbase got bigger with the 1080p devices. Which would make sense since every new Windows handheld and all entry point PC/Laptops are still running 1080p screens and 16GB is the entry point ram config in PC space along with RTX3060 and 4060.
I would argue that you aren't necessarily seeing people "downgrade" but more people are entering the PC gaming market through the path of least resistance.
The Steam Hardware Survey's most popular parts are just the parts that are sold in entry-mid level prebuilt PCs. It's NOT what people who build their own PCs pick. It's just the lowest hardware sold as new that doesn't absolutely suck as shown by the specs in this video.
It's wild that the GTX 1060 is in 12th place. It was the most used GPU for the longest time for Steam. The fact that an 8 year old gpu is still so high on the list is just wild.
Does the "downgrade" of resolution suggest that people are playing newer games and not upgrading their gfx cards, so dropping to 1080 to get a better frame rate for their current setup?
I believe one of the reason for Intel being so high on Steam Hardware Survey is just that people..just didn't upgrade and didn't need to. Which is actually great! Because that means they know they know they actually don't need to upgrade! that or..the lack of money. Or brand loyalty. Also RX 6800 user here! We exists. Sometimes.
5:30 Igpus in nearly every game (that doesn't officially support igpus) registers as 128mb for some reason, even if you have 8 gb of ram dedicated to your igpu, it will still read as 128mb
old igpus had ficed ram ammounts, some had ram access and coule take more or less, i remember a old intel gou that coyld take up to 256 mbs and as little as 11 mbs, that was like 12 years ago some of those machunes migth still be around so, they put 128 to make a somewhat valid group
me watching this on a chromebook, while making dinner... the thing to note about the survey is it isn't all steam connected computers, just a random selection so "weird" trends between individual runs can be seen.
6:02 I mean if you have an old build meant for 1440p, switching to 1080p would be a way to extend the life of your system for it to be able to run newer titles
Those variations in percentage could be caused by a change in the population for which the data is gathered (steam users): 500/1 000 use 1080p during year 1 700/1200 (+200) use 1080p during year 2 = +14,8 %
People aren't downgrading - I'd expect that the number of machines in the Steam Survey has increased, probably due to a lot of 6-core /16GB / RTX 3060/4060 gaming laptops with 1080p screens getting bought. Hence various things showing 1-2% drops, when they've increased in number, but less than the mass selling gaming laptops.
I don’t think that people are downgrading to 1080p or 16g of RAM. What might be happening is that there are more NEW users on steam. Considering the way this console generation is going, and that you can get a 1080p rig for the same price or less than a console. It wouldn’t shock me if new people were increasing the numbers of mid-low range systems
I recently upgraded to the Asus rog Swift 1440p 240 HZ OLED monitor it is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. I got a good deal on it too off of eBay 400 bones, and it still had the plastic peel on the base.
16GB RAM is the easiest and cheapest way to get to dual channel. I'm not surprised more people are figuring this out. You don't need more than 16, but you definitely want dual channel.
there is a much higher percentage of people who buy prebuilt systems than people who build it themselves, and because prebuilts almost never come with AMD graphics cards explains nvidias dominance
i sold 1 stick of 16gb ram because i didn't need it anymore since i bought a 1080p display and sold my 1440p to buy more cores on my cpu. 100% satisfied and would recommend it!
The RAM difference in my opinion is when people upgrade , 99% of upgrade kits come with 16gb RAM and since it is essentially enough to game with they leave it as is. Also Steam hardly ever takes note when adding or removing hardware , so most likely you adding 16gb RAM to your already 16gb wont show up till they do another random survey
Its not that its going up or down, its the means of the survey. Its not 100% of the userbase so basically it will shift within a small percentage but still an accurate representation of active users. With cpu, its a very accurate depiction since its only 2 choices. Intel still prevailing as the most used. Gpu, nothing to say here but nvidia is still king.
On the resolution stat I'd say that would depend if people are researching and attempting to be a professional gamer. When I was doing similar research it seemed to indicate that many pros opt for a smaller 24 inch 1080p high refresh rate monitor over 1440p or 4k.
I have a Desktop running Windows, a ultra portable laptop running Linux and the Steam Deck running Linux. I probably do more gaming on Linux than I do on Windows. I play mostly casual and indie games, so I don't need my desktop as much.
most people dont downgrade the resolution, given the fact the rtx 4060 laptop is in the top three, they buy a full hd gaming laptop, which perfectly fits the cpu clock too by the way
Steam does not have a fixed number of users, I don't think many people are downgrading. I believe more people are just upgrading and buying into 16gb and 1080p from nothing or lower specs. If 1000 people bought their first PCs at 1080p it would reduce the relative percent of 1440p users even if no one downgraded.
I downgraded. My 1440p monitor broke, so now my secondary 1080p monitor is my main. For now.
Yup, more new pc owners and/or survey participants.
You have to put Samsung's Odyssey curved monitors into the equation. They break after like 2 months and then they refuse your warranty.
And considering that they are among the most popular 1440p monitors...
i mean it's dawid we can't expect much from the boi
@@masterkamen371 It's a shame too since waaay back in the day their monitors were bullet proof. The 4x3 Samsung monitor I bought back in high school still worked just fine till my parents stopped using it a few years ago.
The amount of people in these comments thinking Dawid was serious about his reasoning saying people where downgrading is funnier than the actual video.
It gets them to leave a comment end engagement is the metric.
It’s hilarious.
To be fair it's still a fairly valid point. People should learn how hardware in their PC works, so they can fix it if there are issues instead of relying on a limited tech support. I bet most people buying prebuilds don't even know the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 speeds.
people are not downgrading their ram or desktop resolution, its new steam users who are buying in at entry point
Yeah, wanna bet it's all the people who saw the price of the PS5 Pro and said "fuck that" ?
Nah, I'm kidding, console gamers will never learn. They love paying $80 for a gamepad.
he lies my system is not what steam users have as I have a 5950X 128 gigs of ddr4 ram 50 terabytes or more of storage space and an rtx 3070
Also Steam counts all the monitors you have, not just the primary one, so I guess some people are adding more 1080p as secundary monitors
maybe wrong 32GB ddr4 costs the same as 16gb DDR5. People are just upgrading to new gen on cheap IMO is part reason
Youre a bit slow huh?@raven4k998
As someone who does not exist I'm severely offended.
sorry we dont care about non existing peoples opinions 😉
so did you convert from simplified Chinese to English?🤪
As a fellow non existant user, i am not offended but I am amused.
I will go back playing some games now. My non existant existance is of no concern to me, BC I don't exist.
Also trolls can't find you, or so I am told.
I don't know who you are!
it's not that , other stuff doesn't exist it's just used in such a small percentage of steam users that it fits into the "Other" box ... like my 4080 super.
Yes according to the Steam Hardware Survey my RX 7900 XT doesn't exist. But the RX 7900 XTX does exist apparently.
My 8800 XT isn’t on the list either 😢
I also have this issue. lol.
@@gorillagroddgaming think there's a reason for that...
Yet it says only 0.38% for the XTX idk.
Not even the best GPU deal from the generation the 7800xt has a decent percentage and I built 2 PCs with those this year...
The slight down-tick in RAM is because the steamdeck is 16gb. It's probably not even truly people "downgrading" but just more 16gb systems being added to the stats.
I think the 2nd most popular handheld is the ROG Ally and that ALSO has 16gb
Doesn't the steam deck run Linux? Surprised to see Linux so low on the list since the steam deck is pretty popular.
Handhelds should be able to have their own survey sheet because although "they are still a computer" it's not the same
@@volvo09 Aye, that's the reason Arch linux is so high on the list.
@@volvo09sure, it’s popular among people who actively game, but dwarfed by the number of us filthy casuals who have Steam installed on all of our machines but rarely actually use it
Could it also be from people switching from DDR4 to DDR5?
I love how dawid just refuses to register that since the previous survey, more people bought computers.
The amount of chances his brain has to catch up to this fact is astounding.
You assume that all the people in the survey have always been in the survey but new users exist so just because 1080p increases in share it doesn't mean every user upgraded or downgrade, many are first time users probably especially in the fall when kids go off the college and stuff. STATISTICS!!!!
the survely leaves you to guess what happens
they dont say if it is a new user or a old user, how many users were in tuere, i never get a message if i want to participate in the survey
these numbers say very little to me
My whole system is amd. I runs a 3600x, 7800xt and four 8gb ram sticks, it’s may not win a popularity contest or beauty pageant or really anything, but it works
You got a good solid set up, bro. You could still swap out the CPU and get a nice boost too. No reason to if you are happy with it. IDK but I am quite happy with mine giving me ~100 FPS or so in the games I do play. Monitors are the limiting fsactor BTW, only up to 100Hz.
Have fun.
I'm looking to upgrade shortly to a 7800xt with a 3700x so almost the same so good to see - what PSU do you have? Will leave a CPU upgrade for a while, think when that is needed I'll change to AM5 or whatever comes next!
Mine's got a 7900 XT and a R9 5900X with 32gb of RAM. Pretty decent rig for VR, and only really plan on the next upgrade being an X3D chip on AM6 whenever that happens.
People are not using windows 11 by choice those charts are most def from PC;s that are bought with the OS preinstalled.
Watching this on my 2% OS.
I’m using 11 by CHOice. It’s not even that bad.
@@gorillagroddgamingPeople do this every release of windows - it's cool to hate on the new windows and be that giga chad hipster user still using windows 3.1
I actually chose it. I recently build a gaming pc, I'm normally a macOS user and I don't feel that much of a difference to Win10.
well, i voluntarily installed win 11 on my gaming pc, but just because i play only there, nothing else, my personal pc is still on win 10 and if possible, i will move it to linux
They should look into why so many Chinese speakers woke up one morning and discovered they were only speaking in English now.
4:57 We got Dawid throwing up "gang signs" before GTA 6
PCMR gang gang
Just got my new PC delivered to me on Saturday there, went with a budget offering and ended up with a Ryzen 5600 & RX6600 8GB with 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance at 3600mhz plus gen 4 nvme 1 TB drive and Windows 11 Home. It seemed to be a nice price to performance balance (but I am no expert).
Pretty solid rig but that 6600 might choke on newer (unoptimized) games, plus the 5600 OCs pretty well.
@@MoultrieGeek The 6600 will give 1080p around 100 FPS in mnay many games. OP might have to drop settings a bit here and there but TBH it is just fine. And the CPU could still be upgraded and no reason to make any other changes right now.
Good on you. Decent system, nicely balanced for 1080p. Still could upgrade theCPU should you need a few more cores. For a new out-of-the-box system, you be in good shape. Hace fun, game on!
That's definitely a good performance to cost set up :)
@@richardgarrett2792 Agreed, for the vast majority of 1080p games a 6600 runs great, it's only a handful of AAA games that insist on forcing ray tracing that it will stumble.
The drop in RAM is probably people upgrading from DDR4 to DDR5, since it's roughly 1.5-2x the price in the US if I had to guess.
Doesn't really make sense imho. The recommended spec for a ddr5 system is 32gb owing to the reduced bandwidth of 8gb ddr5 dimms. Unless prebuilt companies have been gimping their systems with 2x8s and 1x16s...
More likely it's just more 5600+16gb/12400+16gb/AIO handhelds being thrown into the system.
Stopping steam hardware survey from saying first
Steam hardware surgery if it were based: keep grinding keep hustling shoot for your dreams. Anything is possible. Don’t ever get up.
I honestly love the use of an actual paper pad D.
I know a few people who sold their 1440p monitors for a 1080p higher refresh rate one, they're dirt cheap now so you get money in your pocket and a decent monitor, especially if you're only playing competitive games.
idk, I have my 1440p monitor for a few years, and I'm not going back to 1080p. Not unless it's get broken, at least. And it's already 165hz, which is waaaaaay more than enough for me.
I don't think people are down grading. What could be happening is more new PC owners are coming in at 1080 while some 1440 users move up and on. Also worth noting the other devices entering steam like the steam deck.
I love how Dawid just says Call of Duty 47 randomly
omg DeadP47 reference?!!!
sat here with a time bomb (14900k) and a rtx 4090 and yes i do not exist
At least nobody will notice when your PC explodes since it doesn't exist.
People aren't downgrading, The thing happening here is just more people are getting to the pc world and some stuff which led to it getting less %
It is crazy when you check out the steam data because it shows how many people use older hardware is wild.
Can't wait for my next PC with a dual-core CPU and 8 gigs of RAM for that sweet 720p gaming experience
alot of people buy such potato gaming pcs, still very capable on alot of games
Niiice. Sick downgrade coming your way. 😂
Anyone else get the urge to do 80's-style aerobics when Dawid's music starts playing in his videos?
Yup. I literally start jiggling in my seat 😂
While I don't exist, in my defense, the i3-13100F perform about the same if not, better than the i5-12400F in games that can't utilize more than 8 threads
I'd love nothing more than to snuggle on the couch and discuss game settings with you Dawid
I’m so blessed 😂
Steam hardware survey just tells you most people on steam are using $500-1000 prebuilts. 😂
I wonder if it is people like me that are buying used LGA1150 boards with used i7 4770k and used gtx 1070-1080 then throw them in a new case and power supply.
Around $250 and it runs everything i want.
I still can't believe how many people are playing something like CS2 on a gpu with a price tag of half of my entire build
Don't understand why people play cs2 in 2024 at all regardless. There's so many better more modern shooters
I see this as an absolute win tbh
Games built to run on any potatoes are games that eventually build culture. When your game demands a $300+++ GPU downpayment to run, you're pricing out a lotta kids- kids who would otherwise be raving about your game all the way to school.
i dont think those people are downgrading , but steam users are increasing
It was a joke, though some users probably have downgraded it does happen when things die
Nobody willing downgrads, be real.
Yeah he isn't reading the data fully correctly lol
I wonder how many chances in the process of making this video dawid's brain had to come to the realization the numbers of systems and users aren't static. It's probably at least in the double digits. Tragic, the venereal diseases he accumulated finally took its toll.
The specs “getting worse” is not downgrading but non-tech geek subscribing to Steam driving up middle of the road spec that are very common on affordable pre-builts. Love your channel!
Man, i did so much to disappear from the charts with an AMD 3700x, AMD RX 6800 16G, 1440p display on Linux Mint 22, but you got me with the 16G RAM. There we have it, i am mainstream.
Specs getting worse might mean more people building (budget) PCs. That means more affordable/cheaper/less powerful PCs in the wild, changing percentages.
Nothing weird with 1080p still being popular, it strikes a decent balance between looking nice while still being affordable in terms of running a new game on max settings.
My take: 1440p / 4K medium looks better than 1080p high and uses about the same amount of processing power. With 4K on a 27/28" display AA can be switched off, which regains some of the losses.
The survey isn't intended to primarily show people upgrading or downgrading their systems. In order to do this, it would have to survey the exact same people in this survey as in the prior. It's merely meant to show the current hardware of steam users. Though a small percentage of the downgrades may reflect existing users, it more than likely is the result of new users in the survey.
When someone asked Linus whether it was pronounced "linnux" or "lienux" his response was that *his* name is pronounced "Lee-nus"...
The 1650 was used by many of the prebuilt companies for their lower-end "gaming" systems. Stick one of those and some RGB fans in an otherwise office box and you have a "gaming" PC. Plenty of people are still using them, so no surprise it was 4th.
The biggest upgrade from 1080p60 would be 1080p120/144 etc. Also my 5700xt would like a word with the slightly slower 3060.
6:00 I think what's happening is that more and more people are stepping away from desktop CPUs and switching to gaming laptops as their "primary" gaming rig - hence the mobile RTX 4060 being the #2 most popular GPU. As most gaming laptops are still 1080p, that explains the gain in 1080p and loss in 1440p.
It's also not necessarily that people are moving away from 1440p, it's just that the market SHARE of 1440p goes down as the amount of people on 1080p laptops go UP.
All that aside, even for PCs, 1080p monitors are still really popular on the budget range, or people thinking they don't need anything more.
Yes i think so too and at the same time 4k stays stable and 1440p loses even more percent is because people upgrade from 1440p to 4k
Maybe they have 8gb cards that work much better at 1080p, not everone spends $800+ for 1440p card its much easier to buy $100 monitor or maybe have one gathering dust from a 1440p upgrade
we only listen to linus wheb he wants to complain about nvodia or any other company, the rest, is as linux, very open
while there are alot of lost souls buying laptops for gaming, it is more likeoy that numbers of steam users increased alot and they have potato pcs usibg barely 1080p with 16 gbs of ddr3 ram
I think the 1080p monitor and the 16 gb of ram has gone up while their superior version went down, because a lot more people are making new PC's with 16gb of ram and buying 1080p monitors so they go up while the total of 32gb or 1440p stays the same so there are less of them in total
An important thing to remember is that it's a survey. Small fluctuations from one survey to the next is normal, depending on the sample and sample size. I don't know if they release the confidence level. What would be more telling for trends is if you look at them over a longer period of time than one month. Then, you remove even more survey variance.
32gb going down means it only goes down relative to the total number of systems on steam, so the total number is rising, but not as fast as total system number is rising. And considering for under 1k€ you can get 7500f, 16gb ddr5 prebuilts with 40 series or 7000 series GPUs, its easily explained. Same with resolutions. And considering I know multiple people who "downgraded" from 1440p144 to 1080p360/480/540, this also explains stuff
Hey man good video concept and execution. I've caught some of your videos before but just subbed. Have a good holiday season and 2025.
I would imagine the increase in 1080p is because new gamers are buying entry level gaming rigs,,, and 1080p is the resolution to have for a 100 dollar monitor.
0:01 brother I was pooping didn’t have to call me out like that!
Wait till dawid finds out that new people can sign up for steam with previously unrecorded systems
5:09 i have 256mb vram
I forgot what my igpu has
3:09 too many people buy prebuilts, and OEMs like to shove intel in prebuilts. Especially now that intel is imploding and people building pcs are buying AMD, creating an oversaturation of unsold intel chips, that probably get sold in bulk for a discount to OEMs to get rid of them.
5:08 on the 128MB of VRAM - likely Intel laptop iGPUs until the Core Ultra series switched over to Arc iGPUs
also old intel cpus with igpus that take ram dinamically
people still using Intel cause older 12th gen is in the sweet spot of price to performance where AMD refuses to reduce it's prices for 5000 series (at least in my country)
I’d really like to see the absolute numbers of machines in each spec category, as I think change year-to-year on that probably tells us more about the dynamics of how hardware is changing. Proportional breakdowns are only useful alongside that for the bigger picture.
The answer to the 1080p question is most normal to older games require you to have a lower resolution for a bigger UI. More people are playing those older games lately like dragon age origins.
I just ordered Innosilicon's Fantasy II or the Fenghua II on AliExpress. It's a PowerVR video card. It appears that it is Linux only at the moment. Looking forward to messing around with it.
Those trends, RAM down, cores up, storage down, 1080p up etc. is probably from people buying gaming laptops.
For intel's share of CPUs, we must not forget that a big part of the world are third-worlders so they might get a good deal for PC components which are considered "e-waste" in the West, but they can still play the biggest games on steam and stuff
2:36 to be fair if anyone who played got asked for money by Furina would pay 😅
It's not that 2k monitor or Amd cpu or 32gig ram is being downgrading, the main thing is more people are getting intel cpu, 16gig ram and 1080p monitor because all of them are available at quite a reasonable price and with great value and most of the people build a budget gaming pc like i5 12400f, rtx 4060, 16gig ddr4 3200mhz or ddr5 16gb 6000mhz single stick (since16gig is quite a standard for ddr5 ) and 550watt psu with a 1080p monitor like Gigabyte G24F-2 which offers great value. With this kind of specs you can easily play any aaa games on 1080p high settings 60fps at such a great budget of around $700
as a genshin player i can confirm that i forfeited all my ram money for furina
@DavidDoesTechStuff STEAM does NOT REPORT AMD CARDS! It reports the CPU's combined GPU. So all those Intel CPU/GPU's are actually, most likely AMD. When my STEAM hardware updated on my 3 AMD systems, all 3 reported the GPU as the INTEL CPU/GPU. Not the AMD card that was in each of the 3 systems. I confirmed this when Facebook survey of AMD owners who updated their STEAM hardware profiles and ALL OF THEM stated that STEAM reported their CPU / GPU or NO GPU at all if they had an F skew or an AMD 5000's or below CPU.
OMFG did I actually see that on 6'17" .... what has been seen can not be unseen ...
The percentages can go down or up even if overall number of users change. If 1000 people would buy PC with 1080p resolution percentage for 1080p would go up and rest of them would go down. That doesn't mean anyone downgraded their system. It just means the overall Steam userbase got bigger with the 1080p devices.
Which would make sense since every new Windows handheld and all entry point PC/Laptops are still running 1080p screens and 16GB is the entry point ram config in PC space along with RTX3060 and 4060.
That water bottle on 11:26 tho... Straight from 2002
I'm never switching from 1080P. It's nice to be able to run any game on max settings and get high framerate.
I would argue that you aren't necessarily seeing people "downgrade" but more people are entering the PC gaming market through the path of least resistance.
The Steam Hardware Survey's most popular parts are just the parts that are sold in entry-mid level prebuilt PCs. It's NOT what people who build their own PCs pick. It's just the lowest hardware sold as new that doesn't absolutely suck as shown by the specs in this video.
It's wild that the GTX 1060 is in 12th place. It was the most used GPU for the longest time for Steam. The fact that an 8 year old gpu is still so high on the list is just wild.
I was surprised by that tongue action, holy
Does the "downgrade" of resolution suggest that people are playing newer games and not upgrading their gfx cards, so dropping to 1080 to get a better frame rate for their current setup?
new pc folks more likely
@12:40 - Love how the 1650 warns you against using it. :P
Hey now, I often watch videos in the toilet on a laptop! It's not just desktop vs mobile!
I believe one of the reason for Intel being so high on Steam Hardware Survey is just that people..just didn't upgrade and didn't need to. Which is actually great!
Because that means they know they know they actually don't need to upgrade! that or..the lack of money. Or brand loyalty.
Also RX 6800 user here! We exists. Sometimes.
5:10 I also contribute in that 128MB vram
5:30
Igpus in nearly every game (that doesn't officially support igpus) registers as 128mb for some reason, even if you have 8 gb of ram dedicated to your igpu, it will still read as 128mb
old igpus had ficed ram ammounts, some had ram access and coule take more or less, i remember a old intel gou that coyld take up to 256 mbs and as little as 11 mbs, that was like 12 years ago
some of those machunes migth still be around so, they put 128 to make a somewhat valid group
me watching this on a chromebook, while making dinner...
the thing to note about the survey is it isn't all steam connected computers, just a random selection so "weird" trends between individual runs can be seen.
6:02 I mean if you have an old build meant for 1440p, switching to 1080p would be a way to extend the life of your system for it to be able to run newer titles
I didn't expect a steam hardware to be this funny! Top work Dawid
Those variations in percentage could be caused by a change in the population for which the data is gathered (steam users):
500/1 000 use 1080p during year 1
700/1200 (+200) use 1080p during year 2 = +14,8 %
I have a RTX 3060 12GB. Does that mean I only partially exist?
That makes two of us.
Nonexistent hug?
I feel like the RAM stats is probably people having what happened to me, one stick dies and you go, ah fuck it, and go to 64GB instead.
People aren't downgrading - I'd expect that the number of machines in the Steam Survey has increased, probably due to a lot of 6-core /16GB / RTX 3060/4060 gaming laptops with 1080p screens getting bought. Hence various things showing 1-2% drops, when they've increased in number, but less than the mass selling gaming laptops.
I don’t think that people are downgrading to 1080p or 16g of RAM.
What might be happening is that there are more NEW users on steam.
Considering the way this console generation is going, and that you can get a 1080p rig for the same price or less than a console. It wouldn’t shock me if new people were increasing the numbers of mid-low range systems
it's not people "downgrading" to 1080p it's a lot of people getting updates that reset their monitor resolution to 1080p and just never noticed ;-)
I recently upgraded to the Asus rog Swift 1440p 240 HZ OLED monitor it is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. I got a good deal on it too off of eBay 400 bones, and it still had the plastic peel on the base.
16GB RAM is the easiest and cheapest way to get to dual channel. I'm not surprised more people are figuring this out. You don't need more than 16, but you definitely want dual channel.
Methinks that window AC is blowing against the fans on that aio.
0:07 damn I feel called out
there is a much higher percentage of people who buy prebuilt systems than people who build it themselves, and because prebuilts almost never come with AMD graphics cards explains nvidias dominance
i sold 1 stick of 16gb ram because i didn't need it anymore since i bought a 1080p display and sold my 1440p to buy more cores on my cpu.
100% satisfied and would recommend it!
The RAM difference in my opinion is when people upgrade , 99% of upgrade kits come with 16gb RAM and since it is essentially enough to game with they leave it as is. Also Steam hardly ever takes note when adding or removing hardware , so most likely you adding 16gb RAM to your already 16gb wont show up till they do another random survey
Its not that its going up or down, its the means of the survey. Its not 100% of the userbase so basically it will shift within a small percentage but still an accurate representation of active users. With cpu, its a very accurate depiction since its only 2 choices. Intel still prevailing as the most used. Gpu, nothing to say here but nvidia is still king.
2:31 you can't say that because it's not a chart, it's just percentages which show how many people use what gbs of ram
On the resolution stat I'd say that would depend if people are researching and attempting to be a professional gamer. When I was doing similar research it seemed to indicate that many pros opt for a smaller 24 inch 1080p high refresh rate monitor over 1440p or 4k.
I have a Desktop running Windows, a ultra portable laptop running Linux and the Steam Deck running Linux. I probably do more gaming on Linux than I do on Windows. I play mostly casual and indie games, so I don't need my desktop as much.
I have nearly the exact same pc apart from my rtx 3070
6:00Well, most people are not in a good financial situation, and 70% of the world's people are in low-income countries
2:37 first of all, Furina would take way more than just your Ram Money
secondly , nah genshin don't need no money just self control and planning
This is totally correct. I myself and bunch of my friends converted into English from Chinese last month.
most people dont downgrade the resolution, given the fact the rtx 4060 laptop is in the top three, they buy a full hd gaming laptop, which perfectly fits the cpu clock too by the way