I bought an RTX 2080 on ebay 2 weeks ago for $165 US. Took me about a week of watching prices to find one at that price. You just have to find the right card because some cards are priced based on reputation not actual performance. So there are over priced and under priced cards out there.
True. Used rx 6600 is scarce as hell in my area, and if you ever found one, its basically got the same price as the new one, minus the warranty but extra dust and man-juices On the contrary, rx6600xt is flooding the used market, I think I saw one as low as $166
This is a good post - people overpay for the old popular cards and they don't actually consider raster in general. RTX 3060 Ti is a wonderful value card and is easy on power relatively speaking so it fits well into older or more space confined builds.
How is it Costco has to recall butter that doesn't say "contains milk" on the front of the packaging, but Nvidia can call something RTX3050 that is 100% inside and out different from the original RTX3050 and that's okay..? Why aren't they being sued into oblivion for misleading marketing fraud? This seems horrifically illegal and yet they do it rampantly
Pascal was the breakthrough in efficiency. I remember swapping out my GTX770 2GB with a GTX1060 6GB purely because 2GB of VRAM made the 770 fall off a cliff when it got 3 years past release, utterly shit card. The 1060 gave me double the frames at 1080P than the 770 gave at 720P with lower settings (VRAM restriction) and drew less than half the watts. My 600 watt PSU went from having about 8.33% headroom (50 watts) to having about 30% headroom (180 watts) instantly. RTX20 series was more efficient core for core again and I suspect RTX60 series will see another big efficiency bump, going forward. As opposed to just giving people less silicon like as has happened in RTX40 cards.
@@darthwiizius Each generation after Pascal has also been more efficient that the previous, Pascal wasn't some kind of magic, it was a node shrink. Turing is more efficient per watt than Pascal and Ampere was a little better than Turing. And finally with a big node shrink, Ada is wayyy more efficient. No magic, just normal progress.
i have one here and it is so bad that i cant even install linux, because the nvidia driver is so old it doesnt work this post only works as display adapter on windows, for now
The 1080ti was, and still is, an absolute powerhouse. I wish I had bought one at the time but I had to settle with a 1070 (which was still stellar for the price). It's really sad to look at the current prices to performance compared to back then. Jeez.
@@Dorraj unfortunately they will never release such an awesome card again. Now we've got like 11 different card offerings filling in every gap of the market for crazy prices.
@volvo09 if Nvidia was smart they'd spend a generation getting their name out of the mud and selling the new Gen of cards at amazing prices before slowly jacking them up again. It's a legitimate strategy!
@@vinylSummer well yeah, that's the problem in the first place. It's like pokemon. Everyone complains every time a new game comes out, yet it breaks sales records every time. Listen, I'm just dreaming out loud, okay? Lol
When nvidia "retires driver support" these will be like $100, not like it'll change anything because the drivers probably have barely changed in the past 4 years
With the amount of Pascal cards (not to mention laptops) out in the wild there will be new drivers made by the modders within a second after the last Nvidia driver drops. Probably be better too, as they have no vested interest in selling new cards.
BIG NOTE TO ADD: one runs off of motherboard power and is much smaller, one runs off of supplemental power and is as big as high tier monolithic gpu from today
interesting timing on this video. just the other day i got my old 1080ti system out, dusted it off and set it up for a family member to use. they still go strong.
My brother is getting the leftovers from my upgrade. He is getting my older, Fractal Compact Meshify with an AM4- Z370 chipset Motherboard (1st gen Ryzen era) with a R5-5600G, 32 GB of 2666 RAM (this MotherBoard is fussy over RAM!) and a GTX 980ti. I threw in a new Crucial m.2 and 2-1/2" SSD (also has a 2TB Spinning HDD intended for a Laptop- for Media storage) The 980ti still works pretty good, for 1080p. Too bad End of support is approaching it.
@@greenman8 Yeah by the time i had to take the 970 out of the system, because of damage (fan controller failed) which is a year and a half ago, driver bugs unique to the Maxwell series and remaining unfixed have been accumulating, not many yet but sign of things to come, for example was it Yuzu in Vulkan mode or something else, it's starting. On the Pascal series they had the same driver bug but fixed it within 4 months to half a year, but it stayed on Maxwell for one and a half years at that point. Snope a cheap 2060Super though, makes me happy enough.
No shit right? I'm kind of wondering if this was because the 1080 TI is more attention grabbing,? It's just like.. why would you you go for the thing that is the minimum cutoff for a lot of tech that developers are definitely not going to code alternatives for, just for the PC.. and are going to use it, whether it makes an actual visual difference or not to the performance it costs.. Of which, the machine learning anti aliasing genuinely does make a difference given the way modern games rely on things that need temporal stabilization in order to appear on the screen as some resemblance of what they're supposed to be.. and and with the MLA a, now you can have that in motion lol sometimes.. depending on the hidden settings and video won't let you put in the menu. Is he though, is he comparing FSR to something like a machine learning image reconstruction technique? Cuz.. they really don't compare if your your video game.. as in video as in motion picture.. is in movement.. and sometimes not even then depending on the way occlusion is handled, usually, mysteriously and entirely the engine defaults from epic, or if lucky, the bad practices proposed by epic.. meaning you're lucky if they even hadn't an idea about what the box was to check or uncheck or not check or if it was there at all in modern development. I really like dawid, But this video is premise feels like it's getting confused by picking the flashiest potential example and then kneecapping the p potential of the actual premise cuz that flashy example is not a good one especially by comparison to many many others. And it's all just add a little blurb at the end.. and yeah you know what if this was two years ago or so I feel like it would have a little bit more weight because of things like mesh shaders not being pushed out the gospel wagon of epic to console developers.. which are going to be coming more common. But honestly the machine learning aspect is been.. Just it's performance in motion alone solving so many problems that had plagued the modern industry, like I'm not even talking about the upscaling nonsense.. I'm talking about not having the entire game be a blurry mess of pixelation when doing anything of video game might do outside of a screenshot.
@JackWse Dawid is one of my favorite techtubers, so I mean no offense in saying it's not a recommendation. I highly recommend the 1080 TI for collectors, at around $150 USD. It's just not a pick for someone in need of a budget used card, especially at that wattage.
The real issue with the 1080ti is that the cars are like 8 years old. I would never spend $200 on a card that old, I wouldn't even spend that on a card that's 5 years old.
MUCH MUCH much better spend than the "3050" thats actually just a 3030 or 3010 might as well be, especially for similar price. 1080 ti will still be supported for at least a few years.
I bought one last summer, and I wish I didn´t. Shortly there after it started crashing more and more to desktop when trying to game. First I thought it was the psu, but after getting a tip to do a memory check, it turns out that one or more memory chips were dead or dying.
@wewillrockyou1986 not with the same performance or amount of vram as the 1080ti, in any case the regular 3050 8 GB would be a massive downgrade from the 1080ti let alone the cut down 6 gig version.
Dawid, I love these type of videos from you. They are super information dense without being overwhelming, not overly long, but still extremely entertaining. Thank you!
fun fact, the 1070ti features the same PCB as the 1080, but cut down. Overclocked a 1070ti can beat or match a 1080 (Stock no OC) and can be found for same price as a NON TI 1070. £80-100 Cracking price, 256bit bus and 8gb VRAM.
@@drewnewby i wouldn't buy a 2060, they aren't bad but they lack vram, when I used one it In some games I had to run lower settings than it was capable of just because of the vram
@tyler6602 That's a good point, I usually pick out the RX 5700 for the under $100 USD builds. At 1080p, it's not much of a difference, but newer games are getting there even with lower settings.
The 1080ti was an amazing card in its time. Deffinetly my favourite card I've ever bought (on price to performance wise) currently on a 4090 sold my 1080ti when I upgraded to a 3080 sold the 1080ti for £180 and that was like 2/3 years ago
I've never bought a new GPU, I prefer to wait a year or three when the games that are actually made for it come out and I can get decent price to performance used.
@@darthwiizius I got my 1070ti EVGA FTW2 Brand new on release for £450. Long are those days gone. but one of the best purchases ever. Was so proud of it, and was fab to see the extras you get for the premium, for certificates, posters, Bags, ect. and 5 years+ later i got a 3060 12gb for £260 few months ago new MSI may as well of spat in the box when i opened it. Just a GPU nothing else. Not even a thank you.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 If I'd bought one of those in 2017 instead of my old 1060 6GB I'd still be happily using it today. When you bare in mind I swapped that out for a 2060S 4 and a half years ago that basically says a lot (I bought it at the start of the GPUpocalypse, I was after a 2070S but the shop sold it just before I got there so the 2060S was literally the last card for sale for 30 miles around me without getting scalped harder than Johnny Ringo. Still cost me 400 quid though, used retail but basically new, the factory manufacturing date was just a couple of months before I bought it). The performance of 8 chip Pascal cards was pretty damn amazing back in 2016 and 2017, Pascal must be remembered as the GOAT architecture because every card delivered massive performance bumps at way lower power consumption than Maxwell or Haswell. My 1060 is why I'll never buy another 6 chip card, damn thing was great for a couple of years running on my 4th gen i7 but the moment I upgraded to AM4 in 2019 I found it to just strangle the hell out my new system. Would not have had, still wouldn't be having, that issue with a 1070 or better 8 chip Pascal card today, 5 years on. My old GTX770 was an MSi card, aesthetically lovely classic MSi 2 fan unit but by the end I wanted to spit on it myself, card looked nice but by 2016 nothing on my screen did.
My current favourite super cheap used buy is the 2080 Super, have picked up a few even less than 1080Ti's which have an enduring RUclipsr pricing effect (thanks Dawid :P). 2080Ti is also a good used buy since it's basically an 11GB RTX 3070. A little unreliable though, buyer beware... lots of VRAM chips means lots of opportunity for failure, they don't like sagging.
Yeah, make sure it either has second or newer gen Micron RAM or Samsung memory. 1st gen micron RAM cooks itself on all RTX20 models, if you do have 1st gen Micron then you need a moderately aggressive underclock and undervolt to be safe, and never, and I mean never, turn up the temperature limits or overclock the memory. I suspect that the reasons that DDR6 is underclocked out of the box by 1000MHz on RTX20 cards is because Nvidia was aware of the issue before launch (and it was a good way to rip off consumers buying weak arsed 30 series cards that got most of their performance uplift from memory speed, cough 3060), you'd be amazed at how fast RTX 20 cards can go once you unleash the memory, my 2060S fully clocked is faster at up to 8GB workloads than a 3060, for example, which can not be memory OC'ed by 1200MHz like my 2060S can, though 1200 is absolutely the limit and I tend to vary the card between stock, +500 MHz and +1000MHz depending on what I'm running and if I need the extra performance. An easy way to be safe is to buy "Super" cards, all the Micron RAM on those is second gen or newer.
I don't need to buy a 1080ti, I've had one since 2017 and I won't change it as long as it works. I'm old enough to understand that as long as things work there's no point in changing them, especially some hardware components that promise big changes that in any case serve no purpose except to make you throw away money every year.
@Ricek73 Sadly, since games mostly follow console cycles, a typical well spec'd PC can go 7-9 years. I have customers that want new builds every year or two, and I can upgrade every 6 months with all the parts, but I still don't.
Dawid I just wanna say I really love your videos! Waking up to go to work and watching your videos while getting ready legitimately had me CACKLING at some of your jokes! What a great feeling, thank you Dawid❤ 🤝
3:55 I mean, what I've learned from Jacob Knowles, lobsters can be almost immortal, they don't die of old age, what kills them is if they become weak they won't shed their shells and die because they outgrow the shell, other than that, they can live hundreds of years, and become massive.
@DawidDoesTechStuff thank you for all of your videos and comparisons. You really do a great job and make things really simple to understand. Keep up the great work.
I recently picked up an RTX 3090 from a friend for $250. I’m not going to be upgrading anytime soon. That was such a great deal for me. I’ve also got a 9800X3D coming in the mail and I’m so excited to use it.
This is why I love your channel. You give PERSPECTIVE on pc components. Like, just because something a few genes old, doesn't mean it's immediately crape. 😅😌🖤
I'm actually glad you made this video. My laptop has a RTX 3050 and was curious what certain games performance would look like. I tend to play lower demanding games anyways but good to know if i wanna slay some demons in doom I'm good.
I got a used MSI 12gb 3080 for £600 off Ebay. It was in very good condition, it came with it's box and mounting bracket. I'm just wondering if that was an ok price for used one.
Interesting Video Dawid! I personally use a RX 6600 in my main PC and it's been great value so far for my 1080p needs. Looking forward, I might consider buying a used card when this one eventually kicks the bucket because the increase in value vs performance has really dropped off in the past few years as it feels like spending 3-$400 (Australian) just isn't going to cut it to keep a consistent 60 frames a second, at least not without dropping a few other visual settings.
People still overpay on the used market for big name NV GPUs like the 1080 Ti - wouldn't recommend it unless you can get it for a hell of a bargain(good luck!). You're way, WAY more likely to easily score something like an RTX 3060 Ti for under $180 USD which absolutely *trounces* a GTX 1080 Ti.
In no way will you find an rtx 3060 ti for 180 usd unless its listed as broken as for parts, or you have a one in a million luck. Far from typical pricing. Maybe 220-230 at the very least.
@@Boba_Fett1980 This is wildly inaccurate - I bought a Zotac 3060 Ti last december for $225 shipped off ebay in perfect condition. I bought another for $187 shipped this august. Those were both solid deals, but you can easily search ebay recently sold to confirm this.
@@volvo09 £130-150 in the UK, they're holding up thanks to RUclipsrs making videos like this :P If you were looking to upgrade it's a nice easy discount on your next card.
This is so helpful! I am in the process of upgrading mostly everything, but am running with this Titan X for the time being. It's been pretty solid! I was thinking of maybe a 3080 or 3090 down the road, which is fine for what I do. But I was also curious about a 3050, so this gives me some insight.
Been watching Dawid's videos for a while now, and I've come to the conclusion that someone should suggest he go to the bathroom before filming-might help him avoid rushing to wrap things up every time.
Those FTW 3 1080 Ti's are kinda bulletproof! Last June I sold 4 of em that ran in quad-SLI since 2019, and 2 of em ran 2 way SLI since late 2017, pretty much non-stop. I have 4 Titan V's now in quad SLI that have been doing learn-y type work for 2 years, and one of em I absolutely beat the whizz out of since I bought it new years day of 2018. The 3 I bought used probably weren't well taken care of, but now...They get cleaned with a vac 2 or 3 times per year and re-pasted/padded as needed. About 2 and a half or 3, sometimes as long as 4 years. And they all still jam! Full tilt boogie for their entire lives! Lol! They are well built, and if you are getting them used from gamers that don't clean anything... After this long, it's probably a good bet that the unit is gonna be alright for yer interim gaming needs... The caveat here... Is that a used 3080 can be had for like 350 usd, and a Ti can probably be bargained for close to it. Depending on what ya do it might be worth it, but for many it isn't!
60fps is literally the market standard. Consoles are struggling to even hit that these days. I'll admit that higher fps makes a big difference but acting like 60 is unplayable is just sage bait.
I bought a pny 1080Ti for roughly $150 a year ago and I am currently using a MSI 2080TI that I bought for 200 about the same time. If you a willing to be patient and or compromise on brand or quality you can find some decent deals. The 1080TI I have is uses a blower style cooler which is absolute garbage, the thing would thermal throttle within 5 minutes, so I used experimented with msi afterburner to make a more aggressive fan curve and a slight undervolt when I play games now it stays about 5-10 degrees cooler than the throttle limit.
1080ti user here. I bought 2 from CeX, one was a blower style and one was a Palit 2-fan model. I sent back the blower style and have been using this Palit 1080ti ever since 😁
I'm still rocking a GTX 1070 and getting all the FPS I need in the games that I play. Sure, I can't use ray tracing, and I'll need to upgrade if I want to play a new AAA title, but I'm totally happy with my 1070 for the time being. The GTX 10 generation was absolutely OP, and nvidia hasn't given us anything as impressive since.
I just switched from that exact card to a 7800XT.. The good old 1080ti was having a hard time, even after repasting, and DDU/reinstall.. either it was having a hard time with 3 monitors (worked fine on one), or something else in the card wasn't happy.. i loved that card.. it's now on display in my office.
Hey, Dawid, what software do you use to test framerates & memory? I bought a microcenter prebuilt rig so that i could play Helldivers 2 since it was too hard to see the game on my SteamDeck and i wasn't in the mood/didn't have the time to build my own computer. The machine has an i7 and a 4070 card. It's plenty fast for Helldivers 2 and other games, but honestly it mostly gets used for work stuff these days. One day I'll get to play games again and I'd like to know what my computer is capable of, hence I'm wondering about framerate software. Thanks!
It's wild to see used 1080ti EVGA cards that actually work. It was the biggest sour point I had with EVGA. 1080ti SCII and never got one that worked for more than a month. It was nuts with 5 RMAs. I have a 3080 now, and never had an issue, but every time my 1080ti failed, I had to go back to an HD7950. At the time, not the end of the world, could still play games. Now? I wish my 1080ti could have been my old reliable replacing the HD7950. Now it has to be the stop gap 3050 8gb from EVGA that I got to replace the consistent failure I got. Objectively, the 1080ti is in another class from the 3050 8gb even. I spent $760 on the 1080ti new, while it was most recent. Spent $400 on a 3050 8gb. The times were really bad for video cards, and I can't say they got better after the crypto mining spike that made 3050s so high.
I think I'd have an easier time finding affordable weapons-grade plutonium than an affordable used 1080 where I live. What few I've found are almost as expensive as a 4080.
Just replaced my 1080Ti for a 4070, and that's where it gets interesting, I was more than happy with the 1080Ti at 1080p, but at 1440p, it's starting to show its age. Still a legend of a card @1080p and has a few more years in it yet.
Surprisingly the 2080 Super is only a couple bucks more and has usable DLSS which really helps. But yeah, buying used cards can be awesome when you are on a strict budget. Although I have had to RMA the last 3 Nvidia cards I bought so that wouldnt have worked in my favor. The whole reason why I buy new is for that warranty.
This video made me wonder if strangled GPU Memory Bus Width can start to shoot you in the knee with a shotgun at higher resolutions. Like theres so much more of everything with higher res. And with Cyberpunk 2077 @ 1440p the VRAM usage is only 4,5GB.
Had a 980Ti SLI setup for the longest time. After watching Jensen announce the disappointing 20-series cards, decided to hop on eBay and buy a used 1080 Ti. It was faster than my dual 980 Tis at full utilization. What a BEAST! I'm convinced we'll never see again that kind of generational performance uplift without a huge price hike.
Right when the 40 series launched i looked on the 2nd hand market for 30 series that were being sold. I found a 3090 aorus xtreme for some 600€, 2 months used and still under warranty, I'll be keeping this for a long while
Great video! These days the used market is definitely where its at value wise. If you are patient and keep your eyes open there are some outrageous deals to be found. I just picked up an EVGA 2080 TI for $200 usd. This card trades blows with a 3070 and has 3 more gigs of ram. About a month ago I was able to pick up a Vega 56 for $35 usd also on marketplace. With FSR and DLSS these older cards are still very viable.
My old EVGA 1080TI has had 3 owners and still working and playing games fine at 1080P 2024. Upcycle the GOATED Graphics card from 2017. Long live the king.
Dawid, would you say the 3050 6gb is an okay choice for someone looking for a low profile card? Theres only a handful. I think the rx6400, 3050 6gb lp, 4060 lp, and arc a380 or 310 i cant remember. The 4060 costs a lot and is out of the question.
For $200, AMD is a really better options than NVIDIA in terms of price to performance! Ofc you can just get RTX 3050 6 GB but lemme tell you, it’s hella bad.
I finally retired my trusty old 1080Ti setup this past year with a 4090 system. The 1080Ti was still going strong but showing its age in newer games at 4K resolution
My main PC has a 9900K with a RX6700XT but i have a second system in my spare room with a 10400f and a 1080ti and i actually love my 1080ti more what a card... Thank for the video Dawid
The greatest mistake Nvidia ever made. If you know how to service GPU's and are in a tight budget, go for used! I bought my 3080ti 3 years ago for $600 during the pandemic(ex mining card), did a repaste of the thermals and its still kicking ass in today's games! In fact, I haven't found a game that can make this GPU struggle or dip below 60 fps at 1440p lol Perhaps I'll upgrade and buy a used 4080 or 4090 in the next 2-3 years if I upgrade to a 4k monitor, but now I am perfectly satisfied
I also have a GTX10x0 Used GPU, alas, with only 8GB of GDDR A few things: 1.) Aside from FSR, GTX10x0 CPUs also support Intel XeSS. Too bad Dawid did not test with both... 2.) If the game supports both XeSS and FSR, choose XeSS for more graphics fidelity, or FSR for more FPS (in reality, you should test game by game, but that is a very good rule of thumb). 3.) XeSS 1.3 can be easily be inserted into games that support older versions, usefull to get better performance, or to try make the game work if it does not do in your particular setup (for example, in shadow of the tomb raider, neither FSR of XeSS work in default conf, i'll try swapping XeSS shortly, as nVidia's Driver level upscaling messes with the HUD) 4.) nVidia has driver level Upscaling with an algorithm similar (but not exactly equal) to FSR1. Very useful for games that do not support upscaling, but be warned that it will upscale the HUD, which is not ideal, and, evidently, does not have access to motion vector info. The ideal used card would be either a RTX20x0 card (to get access to DLSS) or an AMD one that has TRUE DP4a (some AMD cards emulate DP4a by doing two passes with 16 bit ints/FPs instead of one pass with 8bit ints/FPs, that TANKS performance). Use Intel used cards at your own peril. If you are a content creator (not a gamer) is the best card you can wish for. In used card land, given equal prices: a.) First prioritize the ammount of Memory, to squeeze the maximum life out of your card, games are getting more demanding in the memory department on release, as they are un-optimized for PC, unless you are willing to wait a few months, maybe a year, for patches... Also, if you are doing AI inference or model optimization on the GPU, the more memory the better b.) Then prioritize "newness" to maximize the chances of more driver support. c.) Then, everthing else (media codecs, brand loyalty, rgb, power connector, other features, etc)
Running a EVGA 1080ti right now with a Kraken G12 and a Fractal 280mm AIO attached to it. Dead quiet and temps are insane 20c idle/38c full load. I got it as a bare card from a friend, it was a former hybrid model that needed a new capacitor. Things just line up sometimes. This card just moves through everything I play. I plan on replacing it with a 3080 once they get around $200.
5:57, honestly, anything over 60FPS is super playable for me. Maybe it's because most of my gaming time is in Fallout or Skyrim, where the engine literally stops working correctly above 60FPS? Also, my monitors are also only 60FPS?
The "sweat" is normal for the 10/20 series from EVGA, it is the pads they used. I had 5 different EVGA models from those series and every one of them had that sweat everywhere when you open them up.
I kind of always felt that if you were given the choice between a low/mid range card of the current gen, that you were better off getting a higher/end or the high end card from one or two generations old as the performance would still be better, since it seems that some of the more recent mid-range updates say from the 3000 series to the 4000 RTX cards (at least when discussing the mid/low end cards so ones like the 3050 and 4050) were marginal, so getting a 2060/70 or a 3060/70 would be better even though they are older cars --they're just more high-end cards. So yeah either buy a used high-end graphics card or try to get one from the previous generation (new) while you can. This is why I sort of stopped trying to always get the latest stuff in general (including cars) you can get a great deal if you buy last year's model (new or used)... and the same generally applies to most things (computer components maybe not as much since the prices don't drop that fast when a new generation comes out, but there is some savings sometimes).
I bought an RTX 2080 on ebay 2 weeks ago for $165 US. Took me about a week of watching prices to find one at that price. You just have to find the right card because some cards are priced based on reputation not actual performance. So there are over priced and under priced cards out there.
A few months ago, I got a 2080super for $200. It's been in my wife's rig and that thing runs like a champ
im looking at a 2080 ti, lowest iv seen here in the UK is £250 and thats $318.76 lol so i think you got a good deal.
True. Used rx 6600 is scarce as hell in my area, and if you ever found one, its basically got the same price as the new one, minus the warranty but extra dust and man-juices
On the contrary, rx6600xt is flooding the used market, I think I saw one as low as $166
This is a good post - people overpay for the old popular cards and they don't actually consider raster in general. RTX 3060 Ti is a wonderful value card and is easy on power relatively speaking so it fits well into older or more space confined builds.
I got a 2080 for free😊
I wish we could have 2GB edition of RTX 3050 it's sad that Nvidia didn't make it
RTX 3030
Nahhh not the rt 3010
dont give them ideas
@@migongaming rtx diddy diddy
@@yasaldesilva Thiddy thiddy
How is it Costco has to recall butter that doesn't say "contains milk" on the front of the packaging, but Nvidia can call something RTX3050 that is 100% inside and out different from the original RTX3050 and that's okay..? Why aren't they being sued into oblivion for misleading marketing fraud? This seems horrifically illegal and yet they do it rampantly
@Imjeezus They are being sued, class actions are just heating up. Mandatory recalls are sadly limited to health & safety.
Yeah it's wild. They are so naughty.
Just call it a 2650/60 and everyone sees them as a hero. It’s weird how they forgot all about the 1650/60.
Because we keep electing politicians instead of nerds.
How else are Americans to know that butter contains milk? Or that peanut butter may contain nuts.
Still very impressive that the 3050 didn’t need supplemental power, really shows how far we’ve come in efficiency
Pascal was the breakthrough in efficiency. I remember swapping out my GTX770 2GB with a GTX1060 6GB purely because 2GB of VRAM made the 770 fall off a cliff when it got 3 years past release, utterly shit card. The 1060 gave me double the frames at 1080P than the 770 gave at 720P with lower settings (VRAM restriction) and drew less than half the watts. My 600 watt PSU went from having about 8.33% headroom (50 watts) to having about 30% headroom (180 watts) instantly. RTX20 series was more efficient core for core again and I suspect RTX60 series will see another big efficiency bump, going forward. As opposed to just giving people less silicon like as has happened in RTX40 cards.
That used to be the standard.
Yeah it's cool to see and does give it a bunch of interesting use cases.
@@ffwastit used to be, yes. That's a long time ago, and graphics from back then don't even come close to being comparable.
@@darthwiizius Each generation after Pascal has also been more efficient that the previous, Pascal wasn't some kind of magic, it was a node shrink. Turing is more efficient per watt than Pascal and Ampere was a little better than Turing. And finally with a big node shrink, Ada is wayyy more efficient. No magic, just normal progress.
Dawid, we ALL know the best GPU of all time is the GT 710
GT 610 is much much better🤣
There is an even better one, the G 100
Right after GT 710 is the ryzen 4060
GT 705 is much better as it offers the elusive SPF ( seconds per frame ) techonology.
i have one here and it is so bad that i cant even install linux, because the nvidia driver is so old it doesnt work
this post only works as display adapter on windows, for now
The 1080ti was, and still is, an absolute powerhouse. I wish I had bought one at the time but I had to settle with a 1070 (which was still stellar for the price). It's really sad to look at the current prices to performance compared to back then. Jeez.
@@Dorraj unfortunately they will never release such an awesome card again. Now we've got like 11 different card offerings filling in every gap of the market for crazy prices.
@volvo09 if Nvidia was smart they'd spend a generation getting their name out of the mud and selling the new Gen of cards at amazing prices before slowly jacking them up again. It's a legitimate strategy!
@Dorraj why would they use it if basically everyone's already buying nvidia
@@vinylSummer well yeah, that's the problem in the first place. It's like pokemon. Everyone complains every time a new game comes out, yet it breaks sales records every time.
Listen, I'm just dreaming out loud, okay? Lol
how tf is a 1080ti still "an absolute powerhouse" when its slower than a 4060 and everyone says its shit?
When nvidia "retires driver support" these will be like $100, not like it'll change anything because the drivers probably have barely changed in the past 4 years
With the amount of Pascal cards (not to mention laptops) out in the wild there will be new drivers made by the modders within a second after the last Nvidia driver drops. Probably be better too, as they have no vested interest in selling new cards.
i will buy a evga card specifically to have an evga card from peak nvidia
@@captainslow_037 if you want peak you should look at the 2060 KO
@@darthwiiziusTrue, but most don't dabble with modded drivers.
@@darthwiizius And then game developers will have hard requirements on driver versions.
About 6 months back I sold my RX 590 for $100 and bought an RTX 2070 Super for $200, so for $100 USD I just doubled my fps.
Where do you live?
100$ for a used RX 590 is daylight robery, you have high charisma or what?
@@franciscoriccio51 He hit that nat 20😂
Where i live the 2080 sometimes sells for around 220€, which can do DLSS. Same price as the RTX "3050" 6GB.
Gddr5 'Twitter' had me Lol for real hahaha
Same hahaha
ohhh...now I get why he called it "Twitter".
Is used market so overpriced in North America? I'm from Poland, prices of used GPU's:
- RX 5700 XT - 160 $
- RX 6600 XT - 170 $
- RX 6700 10GB - 200 $
- RX 6700 XT 12GB - 220$
I bought a second hand RX 6700 10GB for $190 here in Sweden just last week as well.
That ain't bad
Those are the prices in USA also for used, Canada is different.
No you can get a 6700 XT for $250. This wasn't the best pic by davvid
@@drewnewby Yeah I've noticed overall it seems that the price was set in Canadian Dollars.
WHERE IS THE INTRO DAWID!?
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Perhaps the intro is the overpriced choke-fetish pre-built PCs we bought along the way
BIG NOTE TO ADD: one runs off of motherboard power and is much smaller, one runs off of supplemental power and is as big as high tier monolithic gpu from today
I don't think you finished the video, cause he did mention both those points.
interesting timing on this video. just the other day i got my old 1080ti system out, dusted it off and set it up for a family member to use. they still go strong.
My brother is getting the leftovers from my upgrade. He is getting my older, Fractal Compact Meshify with an AM4- Z370 chipset Motherboard (1st gen Ryzen era) with a R5-5600G, 32 GB of 2666 RAM (this MotherBoard is fussy over RAM!) and a GTX 980ti. I threw in a new Crucial m.2 and 2-1/2" SSD (also has a 2TB Spinning HDD intended for a Laptop- for Media storage)
The 980ti still works pretty good, for 1080p. Too bad End of support is approaching it.
@@greenman8 Yeah by the time i had to take the 970 out of the system, because of damage (fan controller failed) which is a year and a half ago, driver bugs unique to the Maxwell series and remaining unfixed have been accumulating, not many yet but sign of things to come, for example was it Yuzu in Vulkan mode or something else, it's starting. On the Pascal series they had the same driver bug but fixed it within 4 months to half a year, but it stayed on Maxwell for one and a half years at that point.
Snope a cheap 2060Super though, makes me happy enough.
I buy 6700 XT and 3070 for $200-225 USD used on a regular basis. Would not recommend a 1080 TI at that price.
I think those prices may be in CAD.
@tidjane2001 No, he shows the CAD prices in the video, which are higher than $200-225 USD of course.
No shit right? I'm kind of wondering if this was because the 1080 TI is more attention grabbing,? It's just like.. why would you you go for the thing that is the minimum cutoff for a lot of tech that developers are definitely not going to code alternatives for, just for the PC.. and are going to use it, whether it makes an actual visual difference or not to the performance it costs..
Of which, the machine learning anti aliasing genuinely does make a difference given the way modern games rely on things that need temporal stabilization in order to appear on the screen as some resemblance of what they're supposed to be.. and and with the MLA a, now you can have that in motion lol sometimes.. depending on the hidden settings and video won't let you put in the menu.
Is he though, is he comparing FSR to something like a machine learning image reconstruction technique? Cuz.. they really don't compare if your your video game.. as in video as in motion picture.. is in movement.. and sometimes not even then depending on the way occlusion is handled, usually, mysteriously and entirely the engine defaults from epic, or if lucky, the bad practices proposed by epic.. meaning you're lucky if they even hadn't an idea about what the box was to check or uncheck or not check or if it was there at all in modern development.
I really like dawid, But this video is premise feels like it's getting confused by picking the flashiest potential example and then kneecapping the p potential of the actual premise cuz that flashy example is not a good one especially by comparison to many many others. And it's all just add a little blurb at the end.. and yeah you know what if this was two years ago or so I feel like it would have a little bit more weight because of things like mesh shaders not being pushed out the gospel wagon of epic to console developers.. which are going to be coming more common. But honestly the machine learning aspect is been.. Just it's performance in motion alone solving so many problems that had plagued the modern industry, like I'm not even talking about the upscaling nonsense.. I'm talking about not having the entire game be a blurry mess of pixelation when doing anything of video game might do outside of a screenshot.
@JackWse Dawid is one of my favorite techtubers, so I mean no offense in saying it's not a recommendation. I highly recommend the 1080 TI for collectors, at around $150 USD. It's just not a pick for someone in need of a budget used card, especially at that wattage.
Dawid do better with your lobster references. As someone born and raised in Maine I must say a pet lobster will outlive any electronic component
The real issue with the 1080ti is that the cars are like 8 years old. I would never spend $200 on a card that old, I wouldn't even spend that on a card that's 5 years old.
I thought the prices would drop hard when people quit using them for crypto mining, but I was wrong.
MUCH MUCH much better spend than the "3050" thats actually just a 3030 or 3010 might as well be, especially for similar price. 1080 ti will still be supported for at least a few years.
I bought one last summer, and I wish I didn´t. Shortly there after it started crashing more and more to desktop when trying to game. First I thought it was the psu, but after getting a tip to do a memory check, it turns out that one or more memory chips were dead or dying.
@@Boba_Fett1980 Nah, there are other used cards that are 4 years old or less that you can get for $200
@wewillrockyou1986 not with the same performance or amount of vram as the 1080ti, in any case the regular 3050 8 GB would be a massive downgrade from the 1080ti let alone the cut down 6 gig version.
Dawid, I love these type of videos from you. They are super information dense without being overwhelming, not overly long, but still extremely entertaining. Thank you!
fun fact, the 1070ti features the same PCB as the 1080, but cut down. Overclocked a 1070ti can beat or match a 1080 (Stock no OC) and can be found for same price as a NON TI 1070. £80-100 Cracking price, 256bit bus and 8gb VRAM.
It's a great card still, but £80-100 is a bit high with what the 2060 / RX 5700 go for.
@@drewnewby i wouldn't buy a 2060, they aren't bad but they lack vram, when I used one it In some games I had to run lower settings than it was capable of just because of the vram
@tyler6602 That's a good point, I usually pick out the RX 5700 for the under $100 USD builds. At 1080p, it's not much of a difference, but newer games are getting there even with lower settings.
GDDR 5 'Twitter'... 😂 Nice one. 👌
I didn’t know how much I had missed Dawid’s “thiddy” series pronunciation until I heard it again here. Legit makes me chortle. Good vid!
This RTX "3050" should have been named RTX 3030
Yeah lol
Bought a second hand 3050 6gb last week, couldnt be happier , low power and excellent performance at full HD; i dont get the hate this card gets.
The card doesn’t get hate, Nvidia gets hate for calling it a 3050 when it's literally not (different die)
If Dawid says Deathmatch arena of death- I'm in.
I just got a 1080ti for 90usd, pretty stocked. definitely still capable in 2024. GOAT
Don't buy a used 1080 Ti. Bad idea.
Don't buy a 3050, there is the RX 6600.
The 1080ti was an amazing card in its time. Deffinetly my favourite card I've ever bought (on price to performance wise) currently on a 4090 sold my 1080ti when I upgraded to a 3080 sold the 1080ti for £180 and that was like 2/3 years ago
I've bought used gpus for a while. I never spend over 200, and I always get a flagship, like a 2080 or 1080ti.
Holy shit dude you're a blast from the past. I remember watching your pokemon theory videos like 10 years ago.
I've never bought a new GPU, I prefer to wait a year or three when the games that are actually made for it come out and I can get decent price to performance used.
@@darthwiizius I got my 1070ti EVGA FTW2 Brand new on release for £450. Long are those days gone. but one of the best purchases ever. Was so proud of it, and was fab to see the extras you get for the premium, for certificates, posters, Bags, ect. and 5 years+ later i got a 3060 12gb for £260 few months ago new
MSI may as well of spat in the box when i opened it. Just a GPU nothing else. Not even a thank you.
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If I'd bought one of those in 2017 instead of my old 1060 6GB I'd still be happily using it today. When you bare in mind I swapped that out for a 2060S 4 and a half years ago that basically says a lot (I bought it at the start of the GPUpocalypse, I was after a 2070S but the shop sold it just before I got there so the 2060S was literally the last card for sale for 30 miles around me without getting scalped harder than Johnny Ringo. Still cost me 400 quid though, used retail but basically new, the factory manufacturing date was just a couple of months before I bought it). The performance of 8 chip Pascal cards was pretty damn amazing back in 2016 and 2017, Pascal must be remembered as the GOAT architecture because every card delivered massive performance bumps at way lower power consumption than Maxwell or Haswell. My 1060 is why I'll never buy another 6 chip card, damn thing was great for a couple of years running on my 4th gen i7 but the moment I upgraded to AM4 in 2019 I found it to just strangle the hell out my new system. Would not have had, still wouldn't be having, that issue with a 1070 or better 8 chip Pascal card today, 5 years on. My old GTX770 was an MSi card, aesthetically lovely classic MSi 2 fan unit but by the end I wanted to spit on it myself, card looked nice but by 2016 nothing on my screen did.
Got my RX 5600 XT for 100$, plays every game i want at 1440p, solid card.
Amazing timing! I had my 1080ti for many years and just 3 months ago upgraded to a 4080Super. The 1080 was a great card.
Kinda similar in my case. Had a 1070Ti for like 6 Years and upgraded a couple months ago to an 4070Ti. :)
My current favourite super cheap used buy is the 2080 Super, have picked up a few even less than 1080Ti's which have an enduring RUclipsr pricing effect (thanks Dawid :P).
2080Ti is also a good used buy since it's basically an 11GB RTX 3070. A little unreliable though, buyer beware... lots of VRAM chips means lots of opportunity for failure, they don't like sagging.
Yeah, make sure it either has second or newer gen Micron RAM or Samsung memory. 1st gen micron RAM cooks itself on all RTX20 models, if you do have 1st gen Micron then you need a moderately aggressive underclock and undervolt to be safe, and never, and I mean never, turn up the temperature limits or overclock the memory. I suspect that the reasons that DDR6 is underclocked out of the box by 1000MHz on RTX20 cards is because Nvidia was aware of the issue before launch (and it was a good way to rip off consumers buying weak arsed 30 series cards that got most of their performance uplift from memory speed, cough 3060), you'd be amazed at how fast RTX 20 cards can go once you unleash the memory, my 2060S fully clocked is faster at up to 8GB workloads than a 3060, for example, which can not be memory OC'ed by 1200MHz like my 2060S can, though 1200 is absolutely the limit and I tend to vary the card between stock, +500 MHz and +1000MHz depending on what I'm running and if I need the extra performance. An easy way to be safe is to buy "Super" cards, all the Micron RAM on those is second gen or newer.
still use a 1080ti in our living HTPC. setup with steam big picture and 2 controllers, its totally a console like experience.
I don't need to buy a 1080ti, I've had one since 2017 and I won't change it as long as it works. I'm old enough to understand that as long as things work there's no point in changing them, especially some hardware components that promise big changes that in any case serve no purpose except to make you throw away money every year.
@Ricek73 Sadly, since games mostly follow console cycles, a typical well spec'd PC can go 7-9 years. I have customers that want new builds every year or two, and I can upgrade every 6 months with all the parts, but I still don't.
Glad you still have that 1080ti.. it would be interesting to se that 5700XT from AliExpress again ✌🏻
Dawid I just wanna say I really love your videos! Waking up to go to work and watching your videos while getting ready legitimately had me CACKLING at some of your jokes! What a great feeling, thank you Dawid❤ 🤝
3:55 I mean, what I've learned from Jacob Knowles, lobsters can be almost immortal, they don't die of old age, what kills them is if they become weak they won't shed their shells and die because they outgrow the shell, other than that, they can live hundreds of years, and become massive.
If I had one for a pet it wouldn't survive long.....It would be most loved though..
Yeah graphics cards can last a long time 😂
@@AnnaDoes lol
@DawidDoesTechStuff thank you for all of your videos and comparisons. You really do a great job and make things really simple to understand. Keep up the great work.
I recently picked up an RTX 3090 from a friend for $250. I’m not going to be upgrading anytime soon. That was such a great deal for me. I’ve also got a 9800X3D coming in the mail and I’m so excited to use it.
You sir have made my day a little brighter, confirming my purchase of the 6700xt Hell Hound years ago! Plays my main game WoW perfectly.
I'm glad you did this match up, I had the same question actually! Great vid!
This is why I love your channel. You give PERSPECTIVE on pc components. Like, just because something a few genes old, doesn't mean it's immediately crape. 😅😌🖤
I'm actually glad you made this video. My laptop has a RTX 3050 and was curious what certain games performance would look like. I tend to play lower demanding games anyways but good to know if i wanna slay some demons in doom I'm good.
The five-twitter line cracked me up lol. Language proficiency is maybe 80% of why I stopped caring for tech, and unsubbed LTT but still watch Dawid.
I got a used MSI 12gb 3080 for £600 off Ebay. It was in very good condition, it came with it's box and mounting bracket. I'm just wondering if that was an ok price for used one.
Interesting Video Dawid!
I personally use a RX 6600 in my main PC and it's been great value so far for my 1080p needs.
Looking forward, I might consider buying a used card when this one eventually kicks the bucket because the increase in value vs performance has really dropped off in the past few years as it feels like spending 3-$400 (Australian) just isn't going to cut it to keep a consistent 60 frames a second, at least not without dropping a few other visual settings.
Arguably the best ever? Nope, I proved it! With science!*
(*and some heavy bias)
People still overpay on the used market for big name NV GPUs like the 1080 Ti - wouldn't recommend it unless you can get it for a hell of a bargain(good luck!). You're way, WAY more likely to easily score something like an RTX 3060 Ti for under $180 USD which absolutely *trounces* a GTX 1080 Ti.
Surprised people are still paying that for the 1080ti
I should sell mine
In no way will you find an rtx 3060 ti for 180 usd unless its listed as broken as for parts, or you have a one in a million luck. Far from typical pricing. Maybe 220-230 at the very least.
@@Boba_Fett1980 This is wildly inaccurate - I bought a Zotac 3060 Ti last december for $225 shipped off ebay in perfect condition. I bought another for $187 shipped this august. Those were both solid deals, but you can easily search ebay recently sold to confirm this.
@@Boba_Fett1980 in my country (Romania) I found the cheapest for about 220-230$ like you say, but still, is a very good performance for that price
@@volvo09 £130-150 in the UK, they're holding up thanks to RUclipsrs making videos like this :P If you were looking to upgrade it's a nice easy discount on your next card.
This is so helpful! I am in the process of upgrading mostly everything, but am running with this Titan X for the time being. It's been pretty solid!
I was thinking of maybe a 3080 or 3090 down the road, which is fine for what I do. But I was also curious about a 3050, so this gives me some insight.
emmm, why did you said two times about FSR but didn't showed any tests with it?
Very cool test!! So now what beat the 1080 ti? Do we need the RTX 2070s ???
Been watching Dawid's videos for a while now, and I've come to the conclusion that someone should suggest he go to the bathroom before filming-might help him avoid rushing to wrap things up every time.
It's a shame the 1080ti will never be matched again for price/performance...
Those FTW 3 1080 Ti's are kinda bulletproof! Last June I sold 4 of em that ran in quad-SLI since 2019, and 2 of em ran 2 way SLI since late 2017, pretty much non-stop. I have 4 Titan V's now in quad SLI that have been doing learn-y type work for 2 years, and one of em I absolutely beat the whizz out of since I bought it new years day of 2018. The 3 I bought used probably weren't well taken care of, but now...They get cleaned with a vac 2 or 3 times per year and re-pasted/padded as needed. About 2 and a half or 3, sometimes as long as 4 years. And they all still jam! Full tilt boogie for their entire lives! Lol! They are well built, and if you are getting them used from gamers that don't clean anything... After this long, it's probably a good bet that the unit is gonna be alright for yer interim gaming needs... The caveat here... Is that a used 3080 can be had for like 350 usd, and a Ti can probably be bargained for close to it. Depending on what ya do it might be worth it, but for many it isn't!
5:54 60 to 70fps is borderline playable. Get a ****ing grip Dawid.
60fps is literally the market standard. Consoles are struggling to even hit that these days. I'll admit that higher fps makes a big difference but acting like 60 is unplayable is just sage bait.
I bought a pny 1080Ti for roughly $150 a year ago and I am currently using a MSI 2080TI that I bought for 200 about the same time. If you a willing to be patient and or compromise on brand or quality you can find some decent deals. The 1080TI I have is uses a blower style cooler which is absolute garbage, the thing would thermal throttle within 5 minutes, so I used experimented with msi afterburner to make a more aggressive fan curve and a slight undervolt when I play games now it stays about 5-10 degrees cooler than the throttle limit.
1080ti user here. I bought 2 from CeX, one was a blower style and one was a Palit 2-fan model. I sent back the blower style and have been using this Palit 1080ti ever since 😁
I'm still rocking a GTX 1070 and getting all the FPS I need in the games that I play. Sure, I can't use ray tracing, and I'll need to upgrade if I want to play a new AAA title, but I'm totally happy with my 1070 for the time being. The GTX 10 generation was absolutely OP, and nvidia hasn't given us anything as impressive since.
Man I miss the death match arena of death
I have to say your metaphors are second to none, actual legendary status 💪👍🙏😂
Thanks for the video. Can you add next time avg/0.1low frames too. Maybe helps to see how smooth the cards can handle games.
While I second this notion, isn't that the work of the CPU?
9:36 no way AMD made the Ryzen 3050, they made the Ryzen 4070
2:45 11 gigs of GDDR5 Twitter 😂
I just switched from that exact card to a 7800XT.. The good old 1080ti was having a hard time, even after repasting, and DDU/reinstall.. either it was having a hard time with 3 monitors (worked fine on one), or something else in the card wasn't happy.. i loved that card.. it's now on display in my office.
Hey, Dawid, what software do you use to test framerates & memory? I bought a microcenter prebuilt rig so that i could play Helldivers 2 since it was too hard to see the game on my SteamDeck and i wasn't in the mood/didn't have the time to build my own computer. The machine has an i7 and a 4070 card. It's plenty fast for Helldivers 2 and other games, but honestly it mostly gets used for work stuff these days. One day I'll get to play games again and I'd like to know what my computer is capable of, hence I'm wondering about framerate software. Thanks!
That's all well and good Dawid. But can the 1080ti handle ray tracing at 5fps? Didn't think so....
Just grabbed a refurb'ed 2070 from NE for $180 delivered. I feel like that's a solid deal for upgrading an older machine.
-bZj
It's wild to see used 1080ti EVGA cards that actually work. It was the biggest sour point I had with EVGA. 1080ti SCII and never got one that worked for more than a month. It was nuts with 5 RMAs. I have a 3080 now, and never had an issue, but every time my 1080ti failed, I had to go back to an HD7950. At the time, not the end of the world, could still play games. Now? I wish my 1080ti could have been my old reliable replacing the HD7950. Now it has to be the stop gap 3050 8gb from EVGA that I got to replace the consistent failure I got. Objectively, the 1080ti is in another class from the 3050 8gb even. I spent $760 on the 1080ti new, while it was most recent. Spent $400 on a 3050 8gb. The times were really bad for video cards, and I can't say they got better after the crypto mining spike that made 3050s so high.
I think I'd have an easier time finding affordable weapons-grade plutonium than an affordable used 1080 where I live. What few I've found are almost as expensive as a 4080.
I still have a Gainward Phoenix 1080ti. I bagged it used just before the first lockdown and it saw me nicely through the pandemic.
Just replaced my 1080Ti for a 4070, and that's where it gets interesting, I was more than happy with the 1080Ti at 1080p, but at 1440p, it's starting to show its age. Still a legend of a card @1080p and has a few more years in it yet.
Surprisingly the 2080 Super is only a couple bucks more and has usable DLSS which really helps. But yeah, buying used cards can be awesome when you are on a strict budget. Although I have had to RMA the last 3 Nvidia cards I bought so that wouldnt have worked in my favor. The whole reason why I buy new is for that warranty.
This video made me wonder if strangled GPU Memory Bus Width can start to shoot you in the knee with a shotgun at higher resolutions. Like theres so much more of everything with higher res. And with Cyberpunk 2077 @ 1440p the VRAM usage is only 4,5GB.
Had a 980Ti SLI setup for the longest time. After watching Jensen announce the disappointing 20-series cards, decided to hop on eBay and buy a used 1080 Ti. It was faster than my dual 980 Tis at full utilization. What a BEAST! I'm convinced we'll never see again that kind of generational performance uplift without a huge price hike.
I bought a 3060 12gb and a 2070 super 8gb for ~$200 each last year
Right when the 40 series launched i looked on the 2nd hand market for 30 series that were being sold.
I found a 3090 aorus xtreme for some 600€, 2 months used and still under warranty, I'll be keeping this for a long while
My EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 has been awesome!
Great video! These days the used market is definitely where its at value wise. If you are patient and keep your eyes open there are some outrageous deals to be found. I just picked up an EVGA 2080 TI for $200 usd. This card trades blows with a 3070 and has 3 more gigs of ram. About a month ago I was able to pick up a Vega 56 for $35 usd also on marketplace. With FSR and DLSS these older cards are still very viable.
My old EVGA 1080TI has had 3 owners and still working and playing games fine at 1080P 2024. Upcycle the GOATED Graphics card from 2017. Long live the king.
The 10 series continuing to be considered the GOAT of relatively recent GPUs makes me smile.
Dawid, would you say the 3050 6gb is an okay choice for someone looking for a low profile card? Theres only a handful. I think the rx6400, 3050 6gb lp, 4060 lp, and arc a380 or 310 i cant remember. The 4060 costs a lot and is out of the question.
Wish we could see the 1050ti vs the arc A380 in "the death match arena of death"
For $200, AMD is a really better options than NVIDIA in terms of price to performance! Ofc you can just get RTX 3050 6 GB but lemme tell you, it’s hella bad.
What would the difference be between the 3050 you used on the video with the 8GB MSI Ventus 2X RTX3050 one? I'm very curious now.
Sometimes it pays to do the math. Matching the GOAT against the joke was always going to be funny.
I finally retired my trusty old 1080Ti setup this past year with a 4090 system. The 1080Ti was still going strong but showing its age in newer games at 4K resolution
i still have the exact same gtx 1080 ti
it's a beast of a card even in 2024
My main PC has a 9900K with a RX6700XT but i have a second system in my spare room with a 10400f and a 1080ti and i actually love my 1080ti more what a card... Thank for the video Dawid
The greatest mistake Nvidia ever made.
If you know how to service GPU's and are in a tight budget, go for used! I bought my 3080ti 3 years ago for $600 during the pandemic(ex mining card), did a repaste of the thermals and its still kicking ass in today's games! In fact, I haven't found a game that can make this GPU struggle or dip below 60 fps at 1440p lol
Perhaps I'll upgrade and buy a used 4080 or 4090 in the next 2-3 years if I upgrade to a 4k monitor, but now I am perfectly satisfied
I also have a GTX10x0 Used GPU, alas, with only 8GB of GDDR
A few things:
1.) Aside from FSR, GTX10x0 CPUs also support Intel XeSS. Too bad Dawid did not test with both...
2.) If the game supports both XeSS and FSR, choose XeSS for more graphics fidelity, or FSR for more FPS (in reality, you should test game by game, but that is a very good rule of thumb).
3.) XeSS 1.3 can be easily be inserted into games that support older versions, usefull to get better performance, or to try make the game work if it does not do in your particular setup (for example, in shadow of the tomb raider, neither FSR of XeSS work in default conf, i'll try swapping XeSS shortly, as nVidia's Driver level upscaling messes with the HUD)
4.) nVidia has driver level Upscaling with an algorithm similar (but not exactly equal) to FSR1. Very useful for games that do not support upscaling, but be warned that it will upscale the HUD, which is not ideal, and, evidently, does not have access to motion vector info.
The ideal used card would be either a RTX20x0 card (to get access to DLSS) or an AMD one that has TRUE DP4a (some AMD cards emulate DP4a by doing two passes with 16 bit ints/FPs instead of one pass with 8bit ints/FPs, that TANKS performance). Use Intel used cards at your own peril. If you are a content creator (not a gamer) is the best card you can wish for.
In used card land, given equal prices:
a.) First prioritize the ammount of Memory, to squeeze the maximum life out of your card, games are getting more demanding in the memory department on release, as they are un-optimized for PC, unless you are willing to wait a few months, maybe a year, for patches... Also, if you are doing AI inference or model optimization on the GPU, the more memory the better
b.) Then prioritize "newness" to maximize the chances of more driver support.
c.) Then, everthing else (media codecs, brand loyalty, rgb, power connector, other features, etc)
Running a EVGA 1080ti right now with a Kraken G12 and a Fractal 280mm AIO attached to it. Dead quiet and temps are insane 20c idle/38c full load. I got it as a bare card from a friend, it was a former hybrid model that needed a new capacitor. Things just line up sometimes. This card just moves through everything I play. I plan on replacing it with a 3080 once they get around $200.
It's been my experience that the older ones always perform better.
Oh, wait ..
5:57, honestly, anything over 60FPS is super playable for me. Maybe it's because most of my gaming time is in Fallout or Skyrim, where the engine literally stops working correctly above 60FPS? Also, my monitors are also only 60FPS?
The "sweat" is normal for the 10/20 series from EVGA, it is the pads they used. I had 5 different EVGA models from those series and every one of them had that sweat everywhere when you open them up.
It's like comparing fighting skills of a newborn baby and an athlete oldman
I've got that exact FTW3... it died and I am still very sad. Every so often I hook it back up with the hopes it springs back to life.
Bo intro? Im gonna riot!
EVGA 1080TI FTW3...boy, that takes me back...
not the deathmatch arena of death!!!
1080ti has had an incredible run indeed. Pascal was a high point for Nvidia and I still have a 1070 strix kicking around in a build solid as a rock.
I kind of always felt that if you were given the choice between a low/mid range card of the current gen, that you were better off getting a higher/end or the high end card from one or two generations old as the performance would still be better, since it seems that some of the more recent mid-range updates say from the 3000 series to the 4000 RTX cards (at least when discussing the mid/low end cards so ones like the 3050 and 4050) were marginal, so getting a 2060/70 or a 3060/70 would be better even though they are older cars --they're just more high-end cards. So yeah either buy a used high-end graphics card or try to get one from the previous generation (new) while you can. This is why I sort of stopped trying to always get the latest stuff in general (including cars) you can get a great deal if you buy last year's model (new or used)... and the same generally applies to most things (computer components maybe not as much since the prices don't drop that fast when a new generation comes out, but there is some savings sometimes).