What made it even more realistic was listening through 3d directional earbuds with passthrough turned on, I had to actually stop the dam video to make sure, lol
OMG ME TOO. It's 3:30AM and that knock hit only the right channel on my 5.1 and that speaker is literally next to my front door. I jumped up like the cops was here and no one was there. I sit down and restart the vid, hear it again, and just laugh at myself lololol
Agreed. Why would anyone spell it like Jazz and expect you to say bzITE. I think the guy on the right just likes to be that quirky. Probably says cuhSHEW instead of cashew.
Hopefully, now that Valve are in a partnership with Arch, they'll be able to push out a general release of SteamOS at some point in the future. Valve are basically paying the Arch developers so they can develop Arch faster and more reliably. In turn, SteamOS and all the other Arch based distros benefit from the updates and continued maintenance of the OS. It's pretty smart.
Yeah, I think comes down to nvidia as most user are nvidia user, it's would look bad for steamos if people try to install it on nvidia hardware as right now it's getting better but alot work needs to be done.
@@ZaberfangX Nvidia have always been a major pain point for Linux. I don't really understand their resentment to maintaining good Linux drivers considering they're one of the largest companies in the world and it would cost them pennies when compared to how much they make each year.
@@pixels_per_minute yeah, so far their on the right track opening up their drivers more, like Nvidia drivers works on linux just not in many of the case
@@piercecosmo Same here, I had 1070ti I had so many problem even down to the games won't work, and after a update nvidia driver stop working so I switch to a 6700XT AMD as soon was on sale. Only down side is streaming or making videos is not a easy thing to get the GPU to do the work like Nvidia or Intel and some other stuff I don't need or use atm.
For everyone wondering. Linux proton does support battle eye and easy anticheat, it's just a good amount developers go out of their way to not activate or do the bare minimum to allow Linux.😅
A good amount of games with anti cheat works on Linux. And for some of them that have their own launcher like genshin impact, the community has made custom launchers for those games and they work fine. People even got wow working on Linux.
This is false information. The anti-cheat engines delivered with windows-games are NOT designed to do kernel-level inspection on Linux! When they "not activate for linux" like you wrote - its actually the other way around. They DE-ACTIVATE a part of their anti-cheat engine! The anti-cheat is actually doing what it is supposed to do: They see that something is wrong. And the thing that is wrong is that indeed the whole operating system is different and the anti-cheat cant be sure that no cheating is going on. When developers do this they pretty much say "ah f*** it - most cheats are available only on windows - linux users probably are ok for now - lets deactivate deep inspection". And it is VERY REASONABLE that some companies are NOT okay with "losening" their cheat engine. Especially not for the TINY amount of 0,1% of player who use linux.
@@m4ko288 You sir are misinformed. BattlEye has been working under Proton for years now. Furthermore, it came out in 2004 and as far as I can see, hasn't had any public updates. This is Valve's statement from 2021. I highly doubt BatlEye has been rebuilt since 2021. "As we mentioned previously, BattlEye on Proton integration has reached a point where all a developer needs to do is reach out BattlEye to enable it for their title. No additional work is required by the developer besides that communication." P.S. Since this release, it literally is just a "checkbox" now. No need to reach out to BattlEye at all. Source: I'm a software engineer for whatever that's worth.
@@m4ko288you're so confidently wrong. The anti cheat works nicely with Linux. And Linux desktop users are around 4% of Steam users, 97% of global servers.
@@ThePlayerOfGames I am not wrong. There is no DirectX on Linux. DirectX calls get intercepted and reinterprted as Vulkan or OpenGL by Proton . This Translation can Easily be modifies to e.g. make Walls transparent. The anti-cheat cant do anything about it. Also Games running though Proton are not running with hightened root access. The anticheat is completely unable to Do Kernel Level / out of bound memory detection. These are only two or MULTIPLE attack Vectors that open up when running Windows anticheat on Linux.
As a full time linux user. I use Bazzite on my HTPC (SteamOS UI), Framework 16 (KDE Desktop), and Desktop PC (KDE Desktop). I think me using it across the board speaks for how much I like it. My HTPC runs games at 4k120hz HDR VRR. It is really good experience.
I've tried a few other distros on my HTPC (HoloISO, Nobara, Chimera) but nothing really felt stable enough. Bazzite was next on my list and you've sort of sold it to me
You can't run 4k120 on AMD on linux w/o an external dongle. You can't use both HDR and VRR with said dongles. You can do 4k120 at 4.2.2 sampling without real VRR. I know what you are.
I decided to download Bazzide on my OG Alley because Windows was extremely frustrating and annoying to use. I installed it immediately and preferred it over Windows. On Windows, I used Steam’s Big Picture Mode as my primary way to interact with my games, but it had some issues. For instance, if you set the resolution of a game lower than your desktop, it would start to glitch. Bazzide addresses these issues and makes it easier to use. In fact, I use my Alley as a handheld, PC, and console-like experience by plugging it into a big TV. It’s definitely the best decision I’ve made for my Alley.
@@barcidstudios I mean, I enjoy tinkering with tech, so it's not much of an issue. But from what I've seen, it's literally a case of; 1 - Install Bazzite 2 - Install Nvidia drivers 3 - Works plug and play. The issue is with AMD graphics cards because the AMD drivers used for the APU conflict with the eGPU. And yes, I hate windows.
I'm running Bazzite on a Lenovo Legion Go and a Minis Forum Mini PC, both are awesome and I prefer the OS over SteamOS, every update moves a little more forward and quickly bugs are fixed, I also use them mostly for streaming games from my Desktop, but lighter/older back catalogue games are awesome at 1080p.
Nobara is an amazing gaming distro based of Fedora and has Steam-HTPC and Steam-Handheld versions. I'm using the Gnome version for desktop and works like a charm for most games. I'm also using the Gamesir G4 Pro controller, everything works fine except the special buttons for screenshots and turbo. In this PC I played Spec Ops: The Line which I installed just for giggles and didn't have a single crash or bug from start to finish.
VIVA LA BAZZITE! I LOVE IT! I'm use it 99% of the time on my ROG Ally; dual boot Windows but BARELY use it. Some quirks but I keeps getting better. It just works!
That's often a bios function of portable computing devices so they can claim higher battery life. They show you how much it can do on wall power, then claim a great battery life without explaining this requires lowering it's performance. It's very unlikely this is a function of Bazzite or Linux.
@@victoriarichardson9609as in using Proton or Wine or are we talking about the handful of games that are blocked from working on Linux by their developers?
I never expected to randomly encounter Will “Executable” Smith on a channel I’ve never watched before when looking for information about my new handheld. Loved you back in the Giant Bomb days, Will!
@3:24 "NVidia has some bugs so it doesn't work". I believe you're doing Bazzite a disservice here. I'm running a Nvidia Geforce GTX 3080 mobile and it's working flawlessly. I'm glad you bring awareness to the issues of using Nvidia graphics cards with Linux but if I had watched this video BEFORE using Bazzite for the last 3 months, I would have looked for a completely different solution - and dang, would that have been super unfortunate. I LOVE BAZZITE. I have been using Big Picture Mode on a 4K TV almost exclusively. In fact, it led me to other Fedora atomic setups. I'm running Fedora Bluefin on my primary daily driver work computer now. I couldn't be happier. Other than that, good video.
Installed bazzite on Steam Deck LCD last year and it’s been rock solid. Also installed bazzite on a Reatan Alloy 9, which is essentially the same CPU as the Ser7 that he mentioned in the video. It’s a solid distro. Hat tip to the Universal Blue team for the awesome job.
@@Will_Bx_NYC_718 Great question! Newer kernel, newer mesa drivers, system76 scheduler, zram. Waydroid and brew and decky and Distrobox installed by default. Mostly because I have been a long time Linux tinkerer, and wanted to test the aspects of Fedora Atomic and layering packages with rpm-ostree.
@@Will_Bx_NYC_718I did the same as it’s much easier to dual boot windows if you have games pass than with steam OS. I’ve got a 2TB steam deck. Ended up going back mainly because (sure there are work arounds) unlike windows handhelds there is no way to control cpu or fan speed so the steam deck was like a jet engine. I was mainly going to use windows docked for basic productivity so it defeated the object. It’s a legit thing people do. Even shows as much on the video when they show retro corps page!
Loaded Bazzite on my ally x when I first got it and there were a few quirks so went back to windows. Last night thought I’d give bazzite another go on the ally x and seems to be much improved … so far so good
What people don't understand is that SteamOS is more of a program sitting on top of Arch Linux (Steam front end + Arch Linux bundled together is SteamOS) rather than a whole OS itself. What Bazzite or ChimeraOS have done is reverse engineer that front end and slap on other Linux distros (fedora for bazzite, arch linux again for ChimeraOS), and make them work with the hardware of other devices by including the right drivers. This is why the same plugins such as Decky Loader and CSS Loader work for SteamOS, Bazzite, etc. They're all the same Steam front end.
True, but SteamOS is Valve's own redistribution of Arch Linux, with their slightly customised kernel and duel BTRFS image based install. In which some tweaks are made to make it integrate with the hardware better, though this is replicable on other distro's. Additionally, their gamescope window manager is custom, though other distros can use this too. Those plugins mostly hook into the Steam client frontend though, which's code is included on the Linux package too and can be enabled with a flag.
@@WyvernDotRed When people talk about wanting SteamOS though, they're mainly talking about wanting the console like front end, easy control customization, proper sleep function, etc. The Steam front end does all that on both Bazzite and ChimeraOS too. People are not talking about the tweaking or optimization for Steam Deck hardware behind the scenes, though fantastic as they are. People talk about Bazzite or ChimeraOS like they're copies or remakes of SteamOS, but it's literally the same Steam front end that provides all the same features, or at least all the ones that actually matter for the user experience. And then they're put off and say they'll wait for the official Valve version of SteamOS for other devices, like it'll be "better". The experience will be exactly the same. And Bazzite/ChimeraOS will have had a head start on optimizing for those other devices such as the ROG Ally.
How have Bazzite installed on my ROG Ally C, and I love it. It’s about 95% SteamOS IMHO. The side menu on the right being a bit lower really isn’t an issue. For all the benefits you get for running Steam OS on the Ally, that’s a very minor issue.
I WISH Valve would build a Steam “console”…I have a mini PC hooked up to my office 1080p TV running Bazzite. In my living room I can hook this little guy up to the 4K TV along with an eGPU and all is great. This little guy is my PC and console all in one.
I think Valve may be announcing something like that very soon. In the meantime some of newer Ryzen mini PCs that are coming out with 780m or 890m iGPUs are pretty on par with some of the popular low to mid range graphics cards that are still being installed in gaming rigs now. I think the iGPU based systems are going to replace most of these HTPC SFF PCs in the future.
I'm using it on a regular AMD Ryzen powered notebook, and so far the experience has been great. The only downside of this kind of distro is that some non flatpak software will not install properly due to the way how the distro works under the hood. It's a great distro for gaming and using flatpaks but keep in mind that you might encounter issues when trying to install regular packages.
Lmao who the hell would pronounce Bazzite that way? I watch a bunch of handheld/mini PC focused RUclipsrs and they talk about it all the time and literally none of them have ever pronounced it that way.... Anyway.... Good to see something like this getting some coverage on a channel like CNET. Linux gaming has come a long way and SteamOS is fantastic. Can't wait to see more widespread adoption.
Great video, I've been running bazzite on my Ally X since I bought it. I'm really enjoying it but it does have some minor quirks. Linux noob question, does bazzite update itself like steamOS or do i have to download a new image and reinstall it to get the latest update?
you're able to update it from the operating system, there's a utility on the desktop menu to update - think they got the inbuilt steam updater working but i'd check first.
I absolutely love Bazzite. Been using it on my ASUS laptop from another fork of Bazzite that was made for newer ASUS laptops. Intel CPU/Nvidia GPU, using a Thunderbolt dock for monitors/peripheral. It's insane how well it works over Windows 11. Windows 11 FREAKS out with my docking station and Bazzite has never given me a single issue. I love being able to install shady Windows apps through Proton and if the game has malicious code, I just nuke the Proton cache and try a different download instead.
I’m dusting off my Aya Neo Geek and want to spice it up with a new OS but I’m torn between this(Bazzite) and ChimeraOS, could I get some helpful suggestions??
Main limiting factor on Bazzite is actually NVIDIA support. I’ve run it on a NUC 12 extreme with ARC A770 and a NXZTH1 with a 6750xt and works amazing as a living room PC. Have a 3090 in that same NUC now but have had to go back to windows big picture mode. Using Rufus you can install windows 11 local and boot straight into windows and big picture mode but Bazzite is still miles better. A S300 or fractal ridge with a better AMD GPU would be amazing on Bazzite.
Here's an example of my Bazzite experience on my Steam Deck. For compare: Dota 2 on Steam OS 15-60 FPS. Bazzite 55-100 FPS. Tested both on fresh installed OS.
SER7 at 1080p is a beast. Sure it falls down at 4k but that's expected. I've played through Cyberpunk at decent frame rates at medium/high settings on that tiny box and blew me away, totally forgot I was playing on an APU.
My Intel hd 4000 integrated graphics does indeed work, Mesa has been working on vulkan support for the 4000 series and any others that dont have vulkan support (I dont think the 3000 series has any vulkan support even with Mesa drivers but I could be wrong)
Cheap "Ryzen" mini pc for remote gaming? Might look for something with Athlon Silver/Gold. They have Zen 1/Raven Ridge cores and a Vega GPU. I've tested HoloISO on a laptop with Athlon Silver 3050U in the past, and everything works fine. UI was smooth, no problem with Steam remote play as well on 1080p. The video engine on these things supports up to 4k h265, so it should be fine for 4k remote play. Alternatively you can just go with AM4 mini PC barebones like Asrock Deskmini and pair it with Athlon 200GE/3000G.
I've been using bazzite on my ryzen 7700 + 7900xt living room gaming PC for a while now. One huge annoyance is that if I sleep the machine without quitting the game, when it wakes up it'll run at ~ 5 frames per second. I had to quit the game and restart to get it to run at the normal frame rate. This kind of defeats the purpose of having a console like OS where you can sleep and resume easily because I can't do it. Edit 2024 Nov 29th: The sleep/resume performance issue is already resolved in the newest build.
I experienced this too so I turned off sleep in the settings and I can still have it turn off my display. I haven’t left my PC on for long enough mid game yet to see if that worked though.
@@richarddcrossley The sapphire Pulse and AMD reference models are some of the shortest I've been able to find. Might just fit but I don't know the exact dimensions the NUC 12X can take.
I had trouble with ChimeraOS on my Beelink SER5, which I'm using as a portable fighting game/party game setup and ended up having to switch to Windows. Would Bazzite work on it? And how well does it handle a large variety of gamepads at once (especially GameCube controller)?
Hi there, I have been using Bazzite and Windows 11 in a Dual Boot Setup myself, and I have been fearful of the new windows 11 update killing the boot sectors, like it seemingly did for a few people. Do you have any experiences with that?
i run arch on my desktop and popos on my couch pc but i'd consider bazz-ite a go if i had a handheld or gaming only tv setup. chimera os would be an option too.
You could definitely use an older Ryzen mini PC to stream from your battle station PC if you wanted to. I use an old embedded Ryzen (V1505 I think it's called) ASRock mini PC with Bazzite installed and it's able to stream games just fine plus it can handle older games and indie titles as well. You don't need to spend $750 just to stream with a mini PC. Plus, if you have a smart TV that you can install steam link on (android or Google TV) you don't actually need a streaming box at all.
im really just looking for a steam deck mini, or the smallest device i can put bazzite into thats similarly priced to a steam deck. i dont need it to have an 8840u level power
I went the route of a Lenovo 920q ThinkCentre and put a low-profile AMD RX 6400 in it. All told I was in around 400.00 and Bazzite worked great. Again, you're not going to play those AAA titles on high settings, but for a set-top box or a small travel PC, it's great. Everything just worked and I liked having the option to drop out to a Linux Desktop and do some browsing, install Discord or all the Emulators for some Retro Gaming fun.
If you have a handheld and want to have an experience similar to that of the Steam Deck, then why not just set Steam to open in big picture mode on startup?
Tried this and it does work well, the issue for me was the power management in Windows. If I put the device to sleep, the fans would randomly spin up every few minutes.. Not great if it's in a case.. Tried a reinstall of Windows, nothing fixed it. In the end Bazzite has been flawless in terms of standby / resume, making it easier to jump back into games and loses less power in standby.
I've been using it for months on my desktop, and while it IS annoying that the "Game Mode" isn't available with my Nvidia GPU, configuring Steam to launch in Big Picture Mode on startup is almost like the same thing.
you also have certian beelink enclousres for ser branch of 7 and 5 series you can put a low profile or equiv graphic card in and it has a 400 watt psu with it. combine both of these and the output can be good but no even in 4k it wont help much.
We can probably put that together. It's pretty straightfoward, if the game works with Steam's built in streaming. If you need to use Moonlight and Sunshine it's a little more complicated.
From what I've heard ChimeraOS has a webinterface you can use to manage your games from another device. But it installs with the subjectively awful GNOME desktop, whereas Bazzite lets you choose KDE Plasma, which I daily myself on other distros. Though I haven't used either myself, since after using Linux mainly for 6 years I developed different preferences.
There are some things under the hood that Bazzite is doing that worries me, I love Bazzite but some of the power management things they are doing could be unsafe (to the hardware). I know Chimera was working with them for a while prior to the power changes, not sure if they still are or not.
I have a rog ally and had a steam deck, upgraded to the ally and sold the steamdeck to a friend and boy did i miss steam os, I just love the console/handheld feel compared to windows so Bazzite has been a godsend while we wait for the offical release of SteamOS for the ally
I'm running Endeavour OS in my Rog Ally with everything functional. Hand Held Daemon made it possible. Nothing beats starting from scratch than that... (well, except.. Arch itself)
I'm currently using Bazzite, for a while now, I used a bunch of other Linux distros like Ubuntu, Mint, PopOS, Manjaro which the last three were my favorite up until I used Holoiso. I also used Chimera os and tried Endeavor os, and probably some other distros I don't remember as I just tried out, but the thing is that now I'm sticking with Bazzite until the official Steam os releases as for me, once I used Steam os on the Deck it's hard to go back to any other distro and Bazzite is close but not really Steam os, in Steam os everything just works perfectly for me As for Windows, I wouldn't go back to use Windows if my life depended on it, Windows is the sole reason I never cared for PC gaming, and I only found out about Linux when the Steam Deck was announced, now I can only use Linux on my computers, and I'm a noob with anything pc related so Steam os is perfect for me
Wish nvidia wasnt so bad on linux, its getting better but its the only thing preventing me from using bazzite desktop full time, its anazing on my steam deck
Its better than windows but the problem is that you're going to have issues with compatibility in: Microsoft games, video editors, vpns, external gpus are just some of the things that you might with was more compatible. Windows is disgusting now with all of its privacy issues but they have their hooks deep in software compatibility.
Finally some guys who know what they are talking about. The "sTeAm dEcK aNd aSuS rOg aLlY ArE cOnSoLeS" narrative that many people and even youtubers doing are so annoying.
The ally is 100% not a console. Its a laptop shaped like a handheld. Steam deck, despite having all the power of a PC, has the nice neat packaging of a console environment. Really, gamescope is the "console" like part
I have an Arc GPU PC I use as a set top box, for complicated life reasons, and I tried Bazzite on it out of morbid curiosity and because I may be the first human to actually do so who is not a Bazzite developer. It's... fine? It's fine. It nominally works. But I'll be honest, it doesn't work great. Performance is demonstrably worse than in Windows, and a bunch of features of the Arc hardware don't seem to run as expected or be accessible from Bazzite. The thing is, when I tried Windows and set Steam to boot on launch directly into Big Picture mode... well, it just works, also. I only ever interact with Windows to dismiss the lock screen, otherwise it's a controller-only experience. Any amount of Windows sluggishness to boot while it gets to Steam is offset by the fact that everything inside games and on Steam proper is just a touch faster than on Bazzite for some reason, at least on this setup. Which is also my answer to people complaining about Windows handhelds. I think many don't realize that you can absolutely make Windows boot straight into the Steam Big Picture interface. That being said, I also have a Bazzite dual boot on a Legion GO (yes, I am a supreme weirdo when it comes to hardware, get off my back) and that works better. It even supports the GO's nutty fat joycons perfectly fine out of the box, which is really nice.
This video needs frame rate and energy usage comparisons vs windows. It’s cool that bazzite uses fedora atomic, didn’t know that. I had wanted to check that out anyway, so I’ll probably just go straight to bazzite (on my desktop).
When you say “ it wipes the partion and re builds every update” my mind immediately says “if the power dies or you mess it up you bricked your crap” lol
I need to pickup an external drive so I can clone my windows and try this out. The inner nerd in me has been wanting to run this, but don’t really wanna go nuclear to do so.
I feel like AMD should bring back the athlon chips but with all the new tech a little steamOS/bazzite indie machine plus streaming bigger games from the main PC would be amazing
I so desperately want to buy a little gaming box from Valve preloaded with an official desktop SteamOS release. I love my Steam Deck but I want a living room oriented device that can drive higher resolutions.
Steam Deck can run 4K/60Hz and 1440p/120 Hz on external displays when docked. In fact is possible to run games 4K/60Hz internally on Steam Deck itself. Just set resolution under game properties.
@@retro_ed746 I guess I was unclear. I'm not suggesting the Deck can't do those resolutions. I am typing this from a Deck connected to a 1440p display right now. The problem is the Deck lacks the power to run most games at higher resolutions. Anything above the 800p built-in display becomes too laggy and slow. I play Doom 2 mods and emulators on my Deck, which works fine at 1440p. Modern games do not.
@@NothingCoherent My wording is like this: " Deck can run MOST games with high resolutions and good frames but lacks power on new AAA titles. And there are a lot of games to run." I agree, more powerful system is welcomed. It is coming. It just takes Valve time. 🤓
Great content, as always! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Steam OS is coming to desktop PCs and other devices. We just don’t know when Valve is going to release it. They said it public it is coming. I just hope it comes before EOL windows 10. Can’t stand bloated windows 11. Wouldn’t touch it with 100ft pole. The theory is, they want get steam deck version of steam os, as stable as possible. Then at some point they surprise the world and say here for free or here for $10 is steam os. Install it on your desktop pc and ditch bloated windows 11. Lol I wouldn’t care if Valve charges some $$$ for steam os. Anything they do is leagues away from bloated windows 11. Ms won’t be happy it, and I doubt they can do anything about stoping steam os but GOOD. Ms would shut down steam os if given the chance. But thankful, that will never happen. Ms has ZERO reason to be innovative because they have zero competition, other then with them self. They BULLIED all other OS system out of business except Mac OS ( not a threat to windows ) and Linux. IBM OS/2 Warp was just many other OS that were bullied out of business by ms or shut down by ms lawyers. I just hope steam os has gtx drivers. As still have GTX 1080ti. Gpu prices Canada still over priced. Last tried HaloISO on my GTX, it was a buggy mess. But this like 2 or 3 yrs old. Pop up menu to shutdown didn’t work.
But that already is a thing. I don't understand when people say this because you can already download SteamOS itself for whatever you want. Valve currently has two versions out, one for PCs, and one made for the deck
@monki_sudo Yeah I know gamemode don’t work well with GTX GPUs. Cus I still have my GTX 1080ti and I tried haloISO years ago. All it did was crash every time booted to game mode. Desktop was fine but game was buggy as hell back when steam OS 3.2 was out. Valve has “publicly” said they will be bringing steam os to desktop pc and other devices. We just don’t know when. Yeah Nvidia drivers for GTX/RTX for Linux I hear is kinds bad. Slowly getting better but vs AMD Linux drivers. It’s horrible. So could be while still. So who knows.
@monki_sudo I know there are distro that do have some Nvidia support. But no never tried them. Tried PopOs yrs ago and my onboard didn’t work. Tried ubuntu, had issue just trying install steam and onboard audio not working. Try HaloISO, yeah it was kinda buggy. I don’t know if they updated any or like you said. It’s dead project. Been told Mint is good for both Nvidia and Amd,But haven’t tried yet.
@knowingbadger Actually no. They do not. They have there OLD steam os, which was base on old steam machines. It was abandon as far as Know. Current steam deck/steam os is using ARCH Linux. It’s was built from ground up and it uses Proton.api (Vulkan.api). It uses Proton to translate DX 9/10/11/DX 12 games. The old steam machine/old steam os didn’t have any this and that why it failed. Cus it was up to users to figure out how run windows DirectX games. (Wine?) and I hear it wasn’t great. it’s atm Official steam os only supports, steam deck and maybe few other mobile devices. Also recently Valve added beta (I think) Nvidia support to steam os. I don’t know if it official from Nvidia or of Valve hired somebody to code RTX driver support. No idea If it included GTX support. I hope so.
Audio mix freaked me out on the intro. I was chilling in good headphones and thought someone was serving a warrant 😭
Had me freaking out too, PTSD from my teenage years.....
i am not even on the ground floor, and i thought someone was knocking on my windows.
I'm working at a hotel, thought it was about to get real there pretty quick!
What made it even more realistic was listening through 3d directional earbuds with passthrough turned on, I had to actually stop the dam video to make sure, lol
OMG ME TOO. It's 3:30AM and that knock hit only the right channel on my 5.1 and that speaker is literally next to my front door. I jumped up like the cops was here and no one was there. I sit down and restart the vid, hear it again, and just laugh at myself lololol
Guys, it's BAH-zite, not buh-ZITE.
:)
Agreed. Why would anyone spell it like Jazz and expect you to say bzITE. I think the guy on the right just likes to be that quirky. Probably says cuhSHEW instead of cashew.
The double zz is the giveaway sign to stress that A as BAZZ-ite. Like, Ballet isn't buh-lay. Its BAL-ay. Mullet ain't Muh-lett. Its MULL-et. 🤣
@@zeuslgnTIL that "ballet" is pronounced ˈbæl.eɪ and not bælˈeɪ (actually, I checked, the former is RP and the latter is GA)
Actually it's BAZZ-ITE
@@zembryoz Like the mineral, yeah.
Hopefully, now that Valve are in a partnership with Arch, they'll be able to push out a general release of SteamOS at some point in the future.
Valve are basically paying the Arch developers so they can develop Arch faster and more reliably. In turn, SteamOS and all the other Arch based distros benefit from the updates and continued maintenance of the OS.
It's pretty smart.
Yeah, I think comes down to nvidia as most user are nvidia user, it's would look bad for steamos if people try to install it on nvidia hardware as right now it's getting better but alot work needs to be done.
@@ZaberfangX Nvidia have always been a major pain point for Linux.
I don't really understand their resentment to maintaining good Linux drivers considering they're one of the largest companies in the world and it would cost them pennies when compared to how much they make each year.
@@pixels_per_minute yeah, so far their on the right track opening up their drivers more, like Nvidia drivers works on linux just not in many of the case
@@ZaberfangX Linux support was the biggest factor in me deciding to switch to AMD for the next gaming PC I build.
@@piercecosmo Same here, I had 1070ti I had so many problem even down to the games won't work, and after a update nvidia driver stop working so I switch to a 6700XT AMD as soon was on sale. Only down side is streaming or making videos is not a easy thing to get the GPU to do the work like Nvidia or Intel and some other stuff I don't need or use atm.
For everyone wondering. Linux proton does support battle eye and easy anticheat, it's just a good amount developers go out of their way to not activate or do the bare minimum to allow Linux.😅
A good amount of games with anti cheat works on Linux. And for some of them that have their own launcher like genshin impact, the community has made custom launchers for those games and they work fine. People even got wow working on Linux.
This is false information. The anti-cheat engines delivered with windows-games are NOT designed to do kernel-level inspection on Linux! When they "not activate for linux" like you wrote - its actually the other way around. They DE-ACTIVATE a part of their anti-cheat engine! The anti-cheat is actually doing what it is supposed to do: They see that something is wrong. And the thing that is wrong is that indeed the whole operating system is different and the anti-cheat cant be sure that no cheating is going on.
When developers do this they pretty much say "ah f*** it - most cheats are available only on windows - linux users probably are ok for now - lets deactivate deep inspection". And it is VERY REASONABLE that some companies are NOT okay with "losening" their cheat engine. Especially not for the TINY amount of 0,1% of player who use linux.
@@m4ko288 You sir are misinformed. BattlEye has been working under Proton for years now. Furthermore, it came out in 2004 and as far as I can see, hasn't had any public updates. This is Valve's statement from 2021. I highly doubt BatlEye has been rebuilt since 2021.
"As we mentioned previously, BattlEye on Proton integration has reached a point where all a developer needs to do is reach out BattlEye to enable it for their title. No additional work is required by the developer besides that communication."
P.S. Since this release, it literally is just a "checkbox" now. No need to reach out to BattlEye at all.
Source: I'm a software engineer for whatever that's worth.
@@m4ko288you're so confidently wrong. The anti cheat works nicely with Linux. And Linux desktop users are around 4% of Steam users, 97% of global servers.
@@ThePlayerOfGames I am not wrong. There is no DirectX on Linux. DirectX calls get intercepted and reinterprted as Vulkan or OpenGL by Proton . This Translation can Easily be modifies to e.g. make Walls transparent. The anti-cheat cant do anything about it.
Also Games running though Proton are not running with hightened root access. The anticheat is completely unable to Do Kernel Level / out of bound memory detection.
These are only two or MULTIPLE attack Vectors that open up when running Windows anticheat on Linux.
As a full time linux user. I use Bazzite on my HTPC (SteamOS UI), Framework 16 (KDE Desktop), and Desktop PC (KDE Desktop). I think me using it across the board speaks for how much I like it.
My HTPC runs games at 4k120hz HDR VRR. It is really good experience.
I've tried a few other distros on my HTPC (HoloISO, Nobara, Chimera) but nothing really felt stable enough. Bazzite was next on my list and you've sort of sold it to me
i guess you got an AMD gpu for HDR?VRR?
which htps model do you use?
Right now my steamdeck and fw13 are running cachy as well as my gf pc
You can't run 4k120 on AMD on linux w/o an external dongle. You can't use both HDR and VRR with said dongles. You can do 4k120 at 4.2.2 sampling without real VRR. I know what you are.
I decided to download Bazzide on my OG Alley because Windows was extremely frustrating and annoying to use. I installed it immediately and preferred it over Windows. On Windows, I used Steam’s Big Picture Mode as my primary way to interact with my games, but it had some issues. For instance, if you set the resolution of a game lower than your desktop, it would start to glitch. Bazzide addresses these issues and makes it easier to use. In fact, I use my Alley as a handheld, PC, and console-like experience by plugging it into a big TV. It’s definitely the best decision I’ve made for my Alley.
Windows is disgusting but no Microsoft games, vpns, egpus and very few video editor capabilities on bazzite 😢
@@barcidstudios
eGPUs don't work on Bazzite? Are you sure? I'm sure I've seen them.
@@Patrick-y4d1z anything is possible, but do you hate windows more than you value your time?
@@barcidstudios
I mean, I enjoy tinkering with tech, so it's not much of an issue.
But from what I've seen, it's literally a case of;
1 - Install Bazzite
2 - Install Nvidia drivers
3 - Works plug and play.
The issue is with AMD graphics cards because the AMD drivers used for the APU conflict with the eGPU.
And yes, I hate windows.
I'm running Bazzite on a Lenovo Legion Go and a Minis Forum Mini PC, both are awesome and I prefer the OS over SteamOS, every update moves a little more forward and quickly bugs are fixed, I also use them mostly for streaming games from my Desktop, but lighter/older back catalogue games are awesome at 1080p.
Nobara is an amazing gaming distro based of Fedora and has Steam-HTPC and Steam-Handheld versions. I'm using the Gnome version for desktop and works like a charm for most games. I'm also using the Gamesir G4 Pro controller, everything works fine except the special buttons for screenshots and turbo. In this PC I played Spec Ops: The Line which I installed just for giggles and didn't have a single crash or bug from start to finish.
VIVA LA BAZZITE! I LOVE IT! I'm use it 99% of the time on my ROG Ally; dual boot Windows but BARELY use it. Some quirks but I keeps getting better. It just works!
I used Bazzite on the Rog Ally and it was great! Only problem I found was the tdp changing when I plugged or unplugged a charger
That's often a bios function of portable computing devices so they can claim higher battery life. They show you how much it can do on wall power, then claim a great battery life without explaining this requires lowering it's performance.
It's very unlikely this is a function of Bazzite or Linux.
VIVA LA BAZZITE!
Install tdp-gui to easily comment out the TDP auto-changing
Yeah i tried it out on my rog ally x with dual boot and havent been back into wimdows since. Crazy how good it is.
I haven’t tried it yet but I’m curious how does it handle windows games that wouldn’t typically run on Linux?
@victoriarichardson9609 it doesn't it works the same exact way as Linux does you dual boot windows on your ssd
@@victoriarichardson9609as in using Proton or Wine or are we talking about the handful of games that are blocked from working on Linux by their developers?
I never expected to randomly encounter Will “Executable” Smith on a channel I’ve never watched before when looking for information about my new handheld. Loved you back in the Giant Bomb days, Will!
@3:24 "NVidia has some bugs so it doesn't work". I believe you're doing Bazzite a disservice here. I'm running a Nvidia Geforce GTX 3080 mobile and it's working flawlessly. I'm glad you bring awareness to the issues of using Nvidia graphics cards with Linux but if I had watched this video BEFORE using Bazzite for the last 3 months, I would have looked for a completely different solution - and dang, would that have been super unfortunate. I LOVE BAZZITE. I have been using Big Picture Mode on a 4K TV almost exclusively. In fact, it led me to other Fedora atomic setups. I'm running Fedora Bluefin on my primary daily driver work computer now. I couldn't be happier. Other than that, good video.
Agree he basically just streamed to it… you can do that on a fire stick
what kind of problems did you run into and how did you fix them with the NVIDIA graphics card?
Installed bazzite on Steam Deck LCD last year and it’s been rock solid. Also installed bazzite on a Reatan Alloy 9, which is essentially the same CPU as the Ser7 that he mentioned in the video.
It’s a solid distro. Hat tip to the Universal Blue team for the awesome job.
I’m curious as to why you’d install Bazzite on a Steam Deck? What are the benefits compared to the Steam Ozs pre-Installed?
@@Will_Bx_NYC_718 most likely he don't have Deck and making it up
@@Will_Bx_NYC_718 Great question!
Newer kernel, newer mesa drivers, system76 scheduler, zram. Waydroid and brew and decky and Distrobox installed by default. Mostly because I have been a long time Linux tinkerer, and wanted to test the aspects of Fedora Atomic and layering packages with rpm-ostree.
@@Will_Bx_NYC_718I did the same as it’s much easier to dual boot windows if you have games pass than with steam OS. I’ve got a 2TB steam deck. Ended up going back mainly because (sure there are work arounds) unlike windows handhelds there is no way to control cpu or fan speed so the steam deck was like a jet engine. I was mainly going to use windows docked for basic productivity so it defeated the object. It’s a legit thing people do. Even shows as much on the video when they show retro corps page!
Either your closed captions are out of sync, or RUclips is screwing with Firefox again.
I'm on the RUclips app. It's out of sync
Loaded Bazzite on my ally x when I first got it and there were a few quirks so went back to windows.
Last night thought I’d give bazzite another go on the ally x and seems to be much improved … so far so good
Does the suspend button work on Bazzite?
@@thisilentobserver yes
Hows battery been compared to W11?
@@jonassilva4350 way better
What people don't understand is that SteamOS is more of a program sitting on top of Arch Linux (Steam front end + Arch Linux bundled together is SteamOS) rather than a whole OS itself. What Bazzite or ChimeraOS have done is reverse engineer that front end and slap on other Linux distros (fedora for bazzite, arch linux again for ChimeraOS), and make them work with the hardware of other devices by including the right drivers. This is why the same plugins such as Decky Loader and CSS Loader work for SteamOS, Bazzite, etc. They're all the same Steam front end.
True, but SteamOS is Valve's own redistribution of Arch Linux, with their slightly customised kernel and duel BTRFS image based install.
In which some tweaks are made to make it integrate with the hardware better, though this is replicable on other distro's.
Additionally, their gamescope window manager is custom, though other distros can use this too.
Those plugins mostly hook into the Steam client frontend though, which's code is included on the Linux package too and can be enabled with a flag.
@@WyvernDotRed When people talk about wanting SteamOS though, they're mainly talking about wanting the console like front end, easy control customization, proper sleep function, etc. The Steam front end does all that on both Bazzite and ChimeraOS too. People are not talking about the tweaking or optimization for Steam Deck hardware behind the scenes, though fantastic as they are. People talk about Bazzite or ChimeraOS like they're copies or remakes of SteamOS, but it's literally the same Steam front end that provides all the same features, or at least all the ones that actually matter for the user experience. And then they're put off and say they'll wait for the official Valve version of SteamOS for other devices, like it'll be "better". The experience will be exactly the same. And Bazzite/ChimeraOS will have had a head start on optimizing for those other devices such as the ROG Ally.
This mostly, some customizations and tweaks that were already mentioned; but this comment should be pinned.
@@Hyde119 Completely agree. This is exactly what SteamOS is and is NOT.
How have Bazzite installed on my ROG Ally C, and I love it. It’s about 95% SteamOS IMHO. The side menu on the right being a bit lower really isn’t an issue. For all the benefits you get for running Steam OS on the Ally, that’s a very minor issue.
I WISH Valve would build a Steam “console”…I have a mini PC hooked up to my office 1080p TV running Bazzite. In my living room I can hook this little guy up to the 4K TV along with an eGPU and all is great. This little guy is my PC and console all in one.
I think Valve may be announcing something like that very soon. In the meantime some of newer Ryzen mini PCs that are coming out with 780m or 890m iGPUs are pretty on par with some of the popular low to mid range graphics cards that are still being installed in gaming rigs now. I think the iGPU based systems are going to replace most of these HTPC SFF PCs in the future.
I didn't know that you can also select KDE for Bazzite. I will defintely try it on my laptop or mini ITX pc.
The only issue I had with bazzite was horrible battery discharge in sleep mode in my ayaneo 2. Otherwise I loved it.
I'm using it on a regular AMD Ryzen powered notebook, and so far the experience has been great.
The only downside of this kind of distro is that some non flatpak software will not install properly due to the way how the distro works under the hood.
It's a great distro for gaming and using flatpaks but keep in mind that you might encounter issues when trying to install regular packages.
Actually, it's the way Flathub itself works. Because it's very security focused, not everything works out of the box without tweaking.
Lmao who the hell would pronounce Bazzite that way? I watch a bunch of handheld/mini PC focused RUclipsrs and they talk about it all the time and literally none of them have ever pronounced it that way....
Anyway.... Good to see something like this getting some coverage on a channel like CNET. Linux gaming has come a long way and SteamOS is fantastic. Can't wait to see more widespread adoption.
who cares? are you being pedantic or dense? it's not like you don't understand what they meant.
Great video, I've been running bazzite on my Ally X since I bought it. I'm really enjoying it but it does have some minor quirks. Linux noob question, does bazzite update itself like steamOS or do i have to download a new image and reinstall it to get the latest update?
you're able to update it from the operating system, there's a utility on the desktop menu to update - think they got the inbuilt steam updater working but i'd check first.
I absolutely love Bazzite. Been using it on my ASUS laptop from another fork of Bazzite that was made for newer ASUS laptops. Intel CPU/Nvidia GPU, using a Thunderbolt dock for monitors/peripheral. It's insane how well it works over Windows 11. Windows 11 FREAKS out with my docking station and Bazzite has never given me a single issue. I love being able to install shady Windows apps through Proton and if the game has malicious code, I just nuke the Proton cache and try a different download instead.
The subtitles seem to be mistimed
I’m dusting off my Aya Neo Geek and want to spice it up with a new OS but I’m torn between this(Bazzite) and ChimeraOS, could I get some helpful suggestions??
bazzite is the best distro for handheld gaming. TDP controls and a working sleep mode are essential for a PC handheld
Main limiting factor on Bazzite is actually NVIDIA support. I’ve run it on a NUC 12 extreme with ARC A770 and a NXZTH1 with a 6750xt and works amazing as a living room PC. Have a 3090 in that same NUC now but have had to go back to windows big picture mode. Using Rufus you can install windows 11 local and boot straight into windows and big picture mode but Bazzite is still miles better. A S300 or fractal ridge with a better AMD GPU would be amazing on Bazzite.
Here's an example of my Bazzite experience on my Steam Deck. For compare: Dota 2 on Steam OS 15-60 FPS. Bazzite 55-100 FPS. Tested both on fresh installed OS.
SER7 at 1080p is a beast. Sure it falls down at 4k but that's expected. I've played through Cyberpunk at decent frame rates at medium/high settings on that tiny box and blew me away, totally forgot I was playing on an APU.
My Intel hd 4000 integrated graphics does indeed work, Mesa has been working on vulkan support for the 4000 series and any others that dont have vulkan support (I dont think the 3000 series has any vulkan support even with Mesa drivers but I could be wrong)
Cheap "Ryzen" mini pc for remote gaming? Might look for something with Athlon Silver/Gold. They have Zen 1/Raven Ridge cores and a Vega GPU. I've tested HoloISO on a laptop with Athlon Silver 3050U in the past, and everything works fine. UI was smooth, no problem with Steam remote play as well on 1080p. The video engine on these things supports up to 4k h265, so it should be fine for 4k remote play. Alternatively you can just go with AM4 mini PC barebones like Asrock Deskmini and pair it with Athlon 200GE/3000G.
I've been using bazzite on my ryzen 7700 + 7900xt living room gaming PC for a while now.
One huge annoyance is that if I sleep the machine without quitting the game, when it wakes up it'll run at ~ 5 frames per second. I had to quit the game and restart to get it to run at the normal frame rate. This kind of defeats the purpose of having a console like OS where you can sleep and resume easily because I can't do it.
Edit 2024 Nov 29th: The sleep/resume performance issue is already resolved in the newest build.
I experienced this too so I turned off sleep in the settings and I can still have it turn off my display. I haven’t left my PC on for long enough mid game yet to see if that worked though.
That’s the dream setup. I had a 14500 and 6750XT in NXZTH1. I’m eying up a 7900xt now just for Bazzite but need one that fits in a NUC12 extreme 😂
@@richarddcrossley The sapphire Pulse and AMD reference models are some of the shortest I've been able to find. Might just fit but I don't know the exact dimensions the NUC 12X can take.
@@monki_sudo this issue seem to be gone for me in current build.
I had trouble with ChimeraOS on my Beelink SER5, which I'm using as a portable fighting game/party game setup and ended up having to switch to Windows. Would Bazzite work on it? And how well does it handle a large variety of gamepads at once (especially GameCube controller)?
What about modding & FSR3 frame generation?
What is that gaming box? XER-7 something?
Why do we need Bazzite to stream games? What’s wrong with just using Steamlink?
Hi there, I have been using Bazzite and Windows 11 in a Dual Boot Setup myself, and I have been fearful of the new windows 11 update killing the boot sectors, like it seemingly did for a few people. Do you have any experiences with that?
How does Bazzite compare to Chimera?
i run arch on my desktop and popos on my couch pc but i'd consider bazz-ite a go if i had a handheld or gaming only tv setup. chimera os would be an option too.
Very insightful video, thanks
What TV model did you use in the video?
You could definitely use an older Ryzen mini PC to stream from your battle station PC if you wanted to. I use an old embedded Ryzen (V1505 I think it's called) ASRock mini PC with Bazzite installed and it's able to stream games just fine plus it can handle older games and indie titles as well. You don't need to spend $750 just to stream with a mini PC. Plus, if you have a smart TV that you can install steam link on (android or Google TV) you don't actually need a streaming box at all.
Nobara, Steamfork, ChimerOS, Bazzite ..., they all show great potential for Linux gaming for handheld or gaming console
im really just looking for a steam deck mini, or the smallest device i can put bazzite into thats similarly priced to a steam deck. i dont need it to have an 8840u level power
I went the route of a Lenovo 920q ThinkCentre and put a low-profile AMD RX 6400 in it. All told I was in around 400.00 and Bazzite worked great. Again, you're not going to play those AAA titles on high settings, but for a set-top box or a small travel PC, it's great. Everything just worked and I liked having the option to drop out to a Linux Desktop and do some browsing, install Discord or all the Emulators for some Retro Gaming fun.
If you have a handheld and want to have an experience similar to that of the Steam Deck, then why not just set Steam to open in big picture mode on startup?
Tried this and it does work well, the issue for me was the power management in Windows. If I put the device to sleep, the fans would randomly spin up every few minutes.. Not great if it's in a case.. Tried a reinstall of Windows, nothing fixed it. In the end Bazzite has been flawless in terms of standby / resume, making it easier to jump back into games and loses less power in standby.
@@3rdpartayyou can try changing power button to hibernate instead of sleep. That fixes the problem in windows
I've been using it for months on my desktop, and while it IS annoying that the "Game Mode" isn't available with my Nvidia GPU, configuring Steam to launch in Big Picture Mode on startup is almost like the same thing.
you also have certian beelink enclousres for ser branch of 7 and 5 series you can put a low profile or equiv graphic card in and it has a 400 watt psu with it. combine both of these and the output can be good but no even in 4k it wont help much.
Does Bazzite os console support vpn settings? Also webpage sign in to network connect? Like at a hotel or public network.
yep
Would love a guide on streaming to Steam Deck or TV from a PC.
We can probably put that together. It's pretty straightfoward, if the game works with Steam's built in streaming. If you need to use Moonlight and Sunshine it's a little more complicated.
once installed, are updates automatic or do I need to reinstall for every version?
Updates are automatic.
-Adam
Any differences from ChimeraOS?
One thing I noted is that they had a dual boot setup and ChimeraOS didn’t support dual boot to windows the last time I checked.
it uses fedora instead of arch as a base, i'd say it's easier to setup than chimera due to the useful presets it gives you out of the box.
From what I've heard ChimeraOS has a webinterface you can use to manage your games from another device.
But it installs with the subjectively awful GNOME desktop, whereas Bazzite lets you choose KDE Plasma, which I daily myself on other distros.
Though I haven't used either myself, since after using Linux mainly for 6 years I developed different preferences.
@@WyvernDotRed which Linux distribution do you daily drive now?
There are some things under the hood that Bazzite is doing that worries me, I love Bazzite but some of the power management things they are doing could be unsafe (to the hardware). I know Chimera was working with them for a while prior to the power changes, not sure if they still are or not.
im always gonna recommend bazzite to anyone who wants to try linux desktop or steamos on a handheld they may have :)
great video honestly
Has anyone loaded bazzite onto the ayaneo air pro. I love the form factor of it, but windows drives me insane.
That was some damn good HRTF at the start.
I have a rog ally and had a steam deck, upgraded to the ally and sold the steamdeck to a friend and boy did i miss steam os, I just love the console/handheld feel compared to windows so Bazzite has been a godsend while we wait for the offical release of SteamOS for the ally
If I could suggest another distro to try and don't think this works on handhelds. Nobara, from the same developer who makes GE proton
He has made a version for hand held.
Can i put steam os on a phone?
I'm running Endeavour OS in my Rog Ally with everything functional. Hand Held Daemon made it possible. Nothing beats starting from scratch than that... (well, except.. Arch itself)
nice
Does this support SteamVR? Kinda wanna switch away from Windows especially now that M$ is going to brick my HP Reverb G2.
I wonder how it works on MSI Claw.
I'm currently using Bazzite, for a while now, I used a bunch of other Linux distros like Ubuntu, Mint, PopOS, Manjaro which the last three were my favorite up until I used Holoiso. I also used Chimera os and tried Endeavor os, and probably some other distros I don't remember as I just tried out, but the thing is that now I'm sticking with Bazzite until the official Steam os releases as for me, once I used Steam os on the Deck it's hard to go back to any other distro and Bazzite is close but not really Steam os, in Steam os everything just works perfectly for me
As for Windows, I wouldn't go back to use Windows if my life depended on it, Windows is the sole reason I never cared for PC gaming, and I only found out about Linux when the Steam Deck was announced, now I can only use Linux on my computers, and I'm a noob with anything pc related so Steam os is perfect for me
I use cachyos on my gaming pc but if I have a handheld I’ll definitely give bazzite a try
Wish nvidia wasnt so bad on linux, its getting better but its the only thing preventing me from using bazzite desktop full time, its anazing on my steam deck
Cana Steam Deck do VR?
I like this detail video
why cant i try this distro without installing having a test option should let me test without install
All it’s missing is easier tdp controls, however the steam deck does it was peak here it’s slightly not as good
It's pronounced BAZZ-ite, not bah-ZITE lol
Was hoping to use it on my gaming pc but I have a 4070super… 😢
Interested in their upcoming Budgie DE
would love to try this on AMD's Strix Halo
Its better than windows but the problem is that you're going to have issues with compatibility in: Microsoft games, video editors, vpns, external gpus are just some of the things that you might with was more compatible. Windows is disgusting now with all of its privacy issues but they have their hooks deep in software compatibility.
Finally some guys who know what they are talking about. The "sTeAm dEcK aNd aSuS rOg aLlY ArE cOnSoLeS" narrative that many people and even youtubers doing are so annoying.
The ally is 100% not a console. Its a laptop shaped like a handheld. Steam deck, despite having all the power of a PC, has the nice neat packaging of a console environment. Really, gamescope is the "console" like part
Has also console like* it is literally pig picture mode on at default nothing more. Only idiots think these things would be consoles
I have an Arc GPU PC I use as a set top box, for complicated life reasons, and I tried Bazzite on it out of morbid curiosity and because I may be the first human to actually do so who is not a Bazzite developer.
It's... fine? It's fine. It nominally works.
But I'll be honest, it doesn't work great. Performance is demonstrably worse than in Windows, and a bunch of features of the Arc hardware don't seem to run as expected or be accessible from Bazzite. The thing is, when I tried Windows and set Steam to boot on launch directly into Big Picture mode... well, it just works, also. I only ever interact with Windows to dismiss the lock screen, otherwise it's a controller-only experience. Any amount of Windows sluggishness to boot while it gets to Steam is offset by the fact that everything inside games and on Steam proper is just a touch faster than on Bazzite for some reason, at least on this setup.
Which is also my answer to people complaining about Windows handhelds. I think many don't realize that you can absolutely make Windows boot straight into the Steam Big Picture interface.
That being said, I also have a Bazzite dual boot on a Legion GO (yes, I am a supreme weirdo when it comes to hardware, get off my back) and that works better. It even supports the GO's nutty fat joycons perfectly fine out of the box, which is really nice.
This video needs frame rate and energy usage comparisons vs windows. It’s cool that bazzite uses fedora atomic, didn’t know that. I had wanted to check that out anyway, so I’ll probably just go straight to bazzite (on my desktop).
When you say “ it wipes the partion and re builds every update” my mind immediately says “if the power dies or you mess it up you bricked your crap” lol
I need to pickup an external drive so I can clone my windows and try this out. The inner nerd in me has been wanting to run this, but don’t really wanna go nuclear to do so.
Ah Horizon Forbidden Dawn and Zero West, best games ever Am I right?
Buh-zite? Nah, I definitely read it as "Bazz-ite" with the zed sound affecting the first syllable not the latter...
This is Lord Gaben! Open the door and surrender yourself! 👮♂️
RetroGameCore is getting a lot of shoutouts. 😊
For some reason, when I plug in my controller, Bazzite thinks I plugged in two controllers. Messes up a lot of my games.
I feel like AMD should bring back the athlon chips but with all the new tech a little steamOS/bazzite indie machine plus streaming bigger games from the main PC would be amazing
Why would they need to bring back Athlon when their current chips are already great on handhelds and have lots of GPU performance
@@crestofhonor2349 cheaaapp
that's basically their mendocino chips, they're older gen ryzen but with updated graphics.
No one reviews Chimera OS, which appears to be the best of them all.
I so desperately want to buy a little gaming box from Valve preloaded with an official desktop SteamOS release. I love my Steam Deck but I want a living room oriented device that can drive higher resolutions.
Steam Deck can run 4K/60Hz and 1440p/120 Hz on external displays when docked.
In fact is possible to run games 4K/60Hz internally on Steam Deck itself.
Just set resolution under game properties.
@@retro_ed746 I guess I was unclear. I'm not suggesting the Deck can't do those resolutions. I am typing this from a Deck connected to a 1440p display right now.
The problem is the Deck lacks the power to run most games at higher resolutions. Anything above the 800p built-in display becomes too laggy and slow.
I play Doom 2 mods and emulators on my Deck, which works fine at 1440p. Modern games do not.
@@NothingCoherent My wording is like this:
" Deck can run MOST games with high resolutions and good frames but lacks power on new AAA titles. And there are a lot of games to run."
I agree, more powerful system is welcomed.
It is coming. It just takes Valve time. 🤓
Great content, as always! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
When are Chinese handheld companies going to catch on and make bazzite handhelds?
Audio at the beginning was evil.
Bázzite not Bazz'ite... jesus...
yeah it's Bazzite, rhymes with alright
I think they’re trolling. It was hard to get through this video.
Valve could make available Steam OS for desktop. =/
Bazzite is way better than Windows on a handheld LMAO 😂
Make a console build for it, I'd love to see that
The reason I'm still on deck is cause of steamOS.
(Baaz- zite) your welcome 😅
I'm [retty sure steam's take is "hey, more people buying our games and we didn't have to put ny effort in this time. NICE"
Steam OS is coming to desktop PCs and other devices. We just don’t know when Valve is going to release it. They said it public it is coming. I just hope it comes before EOL windows 10. Can’t stand bloated windows 11. Wouldn’t touch it with 100ft pole.
The theory is, they want get steam deck version of steam os, as stable as possible. Then at some point they surprise the world and say here for free or here for $10 is steam os. Install it on your desktop pc and ditch bloated windows 11. Lol I wouldn’t care if Valve charges some $$$ for steam os. Anything they do is leagues away from bloated windows 11.
Ms won’t be happy it, and I doubt they can do anything about stoping steam os but GOOD. Ms would shut down steam os if given the chance. But thankful, that will never happen.
Ms has ZERO reason to be innovative because they have zero competition, other then with them self. They BULLIED all other OS system out of business except Mac OS ( not a threat to windows ) and Linux. IBM OS/2 Warp was just many other OS that were bullied out of business by ms or shut down by ms lawyers.
I just hope steam os has gtx drivers. As still have GTX 1080ti. Gpu prices Canada still over priced. Last tried HaloISO on my GTX, it was a buggy mess. But this like 2 or 3 yrs old. Pop up menu to shutdown didn’t work.
But that already is a thing. I don't understand when people say this because you can already download SteamOS itself for whatever you want. Valve currently has two versions out, one for PCs, and one made for the deck
@monki_sudo
Yeah I know gamemode don’t work well with GTX GPUs. Cus I still have my GTX 1080ti and I tried haloISO years ago. All it did was crash every time booted to game mode. Desktop was fine but game was buggy as hell back when steam OS 3.2 was out.
Valve has “publicly” said they will be bringing steam os to desktop pc and other devices. We just don’t know when. Yeah Nvidia drivers for GTX/RTX for Linux I hear is kinds bad. Slowly getting better but vs AMD Linux drivers. It’s horrible. So could be while still. So who knows.
@monki_sudo
I know there are distro that do have some Nvidia support. But no never tried them. Tried PopOs yrs ago and my onboard didn’t work. Tried ubuntu, had issue just trying install steam and onboard audio not working. Try HaloISO, yeah it was kinda buggy. I don’t know if they updated any or like you said. It’s dead project.
Been told Mint is good for both Nvidia and Amd,But haven’t tried yet.
@knowingbadger
Actually no. They do not. They have there OLD steam os, which was base on old steam machines. It was abandon as far as Know.
Current steam deck/steam os is using ARCH Linux. It’s was built from ground up and it uses Proton.api (Vulkan.api). It uses Proton to translate DX 9/10/11/DX 12 games. The old steam machine/old steam os didn’t have any this and that why it failed. Cus it was up to users to figure out how run windows DirectX games. (Wine?) and I hear it wasn’t great. it’s atm Official steam os only supports, steam deck and maybe few other mobile devices. Also recently Valve added beta (I think) Nvidia support to steam os. I don’t know if it official from Nvidia or of Valve hired somebody to code RTX driver support. No idea If it included GTX support. I hope so.
Odd review taking about apu then streaming to the box.. a true review would be to build a pc with bizzite