Love the disclaimer " I anticipate everything to go horribly wrong" nice and early. Don't care for immutables much, but that disclaimer kept me watching this one.
Great Vid, I missed the stream ... Hey Chris, in the "Bazzite Setup" you can actually click on the arrows on the right side, to choose what to install, you just clicked the switch and it installed every option like chrome, edge (...) 😅 there is a small little arrow on the right.
on my first install I got confused why the main toggle wasn't on when I picked certain options instead, which at first I thought nothing would install@@TurntableTV
I'm a few weeks into Bazzite, after installing it on a mini PC booting direct into Steam attached to my living room TV, for which I think its been brilliant so far.
This does seem pretty cool and probably the only way to tempt me to an immutable distro. I do have a soft spot for those HP xeon boxes too. My last company a few years ago, we used to be able to requisition anything we needed from monitors to phones to workstations. We all pretty much got a new xeon workstations and laptops when we wanted one. Those things... are a beast with two processors, each proc getting its own RAM of course and such and HP enterprise hardware stuff was always well built. No idea how much power those workstations were using.
@26:00 "It's on the slow side, I think there's something happening in the background we need to look at" Titus about to discover xzutils backdoor 2 electric boogaloo
Yea the linus tech tips thing could've still been avoided. it could've changed the text color to red, and there's a built in way to make text flash, so make it flashing red test saying "yes, do as I say"
Oh for sure! Also APT was bugged because of a bad System76 patch and that should have never been possible. I like to joke about the Linus incident, but he just did what most normal users would have done.
@@TitusTechTalk both parties are in the wrong IMO. I'm not blaming linus because most users, especially windows converts, they don't read anything and will just do whatever it says. flashing red text should be spooky enough to the average user to be like "oh dang what am I doing?" and maybe snap them out of their "installing daze"
@@TitusTechTalk Part of the reason Universal Blue started is because linux distributions aren't prioritizing reliability and this was the only way to make them pay attention. The Linus thing isn't a joke, the joke is that people still think traditional Linuxes are reliable enough for end users, but hopefully we can change that.
@@TitusTechTalk breaking news, apt 2.9 has added colors to the interface, installing will be green, removing will be red. this is a huge improvement to readability.
Only a few days into Bazzite myself but really liking it so far. I left my second gpu out and still failed to install and I had to start with Kinoite then rebase into Bazzite. Worked flawlessly that way. Still trying to get used to the containers, and figure out what you can/can't do with them. I only play a few games but so far they've worked fairly well with the exception of Rocksmith, which, as usual, took some tinkering.
I loved Nobara so much but the upgrade from 37 to 38 nuked my Win10 bootloader on the other drive, somehow. This has be intrigued. Im going full linux when Win10 ends if ljfes
I tried installing Bazzite KDE on a friends pc with a 4090 gfx card. Had issues with second monitor being a black screen with cursor. Changing display settings like extend desktop or refresh rate would completely lock the system. Real shame as for once they were open to give Linux ago
Nvidia issue: doesn't work well with Wayland and Unfortunately, X11 doesn't do well with monitors with different refresh rates. They're about 90% resolved and expected to have something mid-May.
@@AlwaysRaging21 Yeah interestingly I have Clevo laptop with a 2070 Super and didnt have the same issues. Looking through the git repo there is an active issue logged a few days ago related to SDDM and KDE not playing ball, reports say the know version isnt having these issues. One work around is to have only one monitor connected at login, didn't get a chance to try it unfortunately.
yup, got the same issue here on my Legion Pro laptop. I try installing Bazzite with external monitor connected, blank screen. don't even give me the change to install :( so sad.
I'm wondering... what's so bad about Razer? I'm asking as I am currently using both Razer Mouse and Keyboard. And I don't have any issues with them, other than having no software. So... is it the missing software that makes Razer extremely generic and therefore bad or is there another reason?
Bazzite should drop the Fedora installer and go with something as idiot proof as possible for non Linux initiated folks. That would go a very long way to more adoption imo.
I'm literally 5 minutes done installing it on the laptop I'm typing this on... Just need to install QEMU/virt-manager to get it back to being my "third line backup to connect to work" (Windows required for work telephony desktop app)
Only problem I'm seeing is it moans at boot about a TPM error and I need to "Press any key to continue". TPM is enabled in the BIOS, it's not a huge issue to me. If it gets fixed, yay. If not, no great loss...
I bought Razer Hammerheads (wired) in like... when they first came out. Superb build quality and sounds good too! I've had the Razer Orochi v1 and Viper ultimate. Great mice. "Don't buy Razer" is a bad advice. You could just as easily say don't buy microsoft/logitech. All manufacturers have good and bad products. But yes, I totally agree, do not buy Razer keyboards.
Had the OG Razer Blackwidow since launch 2010, and it still works perfectly. In fact, you couldn't even tell any wear on the damn thing! I game a lot, raiding in Warcraft several days a week as well. All the other games I have played on this keyboard, as well as general computing it must easily have 20k hours on it or more.
Another good alternative to bazzite is Aurora-dx. Aurora-dx is more geared to general desktop use and coding tools; it has virt manager preinstalled and configured on the base image etc. The next release of bazzite should really have a dx version too.
G'day mate, found your video as I'm about to try dive into Linux as a desktop OS replacement for Windows primarily for gaming. Hoping you or someone in the comments can help me however as I have a specific hardware issue/use case that I solved on Endeavour/Arch, but can't work out how to solve on Fedora/Bazzite: installing the it87 kernel module for modprobe. My mobo (Gigabyte B550i) uses a fan controller chipset that isn't detected in the main kernel sensors-detect, but does work if I install the it87 module. I need this because my GPU is deshrouded and is cooled by a mobo fan header, hence needing to use CoolerControl to control it. So as a Linux newbie, how would I go about installing this on Fedora/Bazzite?
So, tried Bazzite, generally work fine. Open Steam, run Cossacks 3 and have an "Access violation" error. No matter whether I click OK or Cancel game not running. First game i tried on this system :| Now trying to tune it work. On Mint, it just worked without any tuning :\ And I run RX 7800 XT not nvidia.
Maybe you should actually USE the os for a while before telling everyone how they need to switch lol. It doesnt work with nvcc which makes running ALVR (to use a quest headset with steamvr) completely impossible. And the way they set everything up nothing works thanks to all the flatpaks etc. Bunch of bullshit.
What is the issue with Nvidia cards? Is just your inate ability to break things? Admittedly, I haven't tried Nvidia plus AMD GPU but Nvidia plus Intel Discreet GPU works just fine on most Linux systems these days. I've had zero issues with Nvidia and Linux for years now, maybe even a decade or so. Even Debian realized their founding principles allowed/encourage providing propriety drivers. Only the FSF and it's zealots have such issues with "proprietary" drivers and blobs. Which makes no sense as we have always relief on proprietary closed source components since the dawn of computing.
bazzite is bugged ....its desktop graphics flickers while watching videos on a browser... stick with ubuntu or fedora that are a little bit more polished
In the near future I want to try this on a old Lenovo laptop that has Win 8.1 on it. I can't afford a new laptop and gives me a chance to play with Linux.
"We all bought Razer products" ... I never did. I never was a fan of the over-the-top designs of their products including pointless features like RGB lighting for a ridiculously high price. I guess that at least partially explains why I don't have a PS5 as well... although in that case I have a longstanding grudge against Sony since the mid 90s. This RGB crap seems to be getting more mainstream and cheaper as a result, but I still don't like Razer's sharp overall design aesthetic (and still high prices for the mediocrity you get).
Something has to be wrong with this deployment thing, or bazzite servers its getting data from might be dying or something because i literally installed 4 windows 11 from power up to desktop in the time this took. Thats almost 8 times the data. U can use slots while covered by gpus by the power of low profile PCIE extension cable thing. Also what the hell are you talking about, wayland is the biggest linux failure in years. Imagine if Apple or Microsoft released a patch to their os that for OVER A MTHF YEAR made literally half of games unstable stutter feast, made it impossible to have administrator rights in your file browser and broke keyboard and mouse shortcuts to all hell so even the basic functionality like push to talk inst working, and crashing even build in desktop apps that are supposed to be build for it. Even to this day, even in Plasma 6, which is build for wayland, all you have to do is play a bit with positioning of panels, try to customise some stuff and voila, u have artifacts or the desktops just dies. Its literally beta software that shouldnt have been released to public at all. Its not helping linux adoption.
> wayland is the biggest Linux failure in years Yeah. Is still far of reaching the same level of functionality than X11, but almost nobody maintains X11. > Its literally beta software that shouldn't have been released to public at all. Its not helping Linux adoption. A lot of distros aimed to starters have enabled X11 by default, a good example is Mint. And yes wayland is still far from being feature-complete, but how else you speed up the development without releasing it to the masses to pinpoint possible issues?
Watch out guys, his computer is protected by the HP Wolf Security
The Big Bad Wolf! Rawr, security that really bites...
IT GOT DAT DAWG INNIT
"winter is coming" 😂
You can't Stop me i installed Kali Linux 😂
@@TitusTechTalknah thats dawg os
Love the disclaimer " I anticipate everything to go horribly wrong" nice and early. Don't care for immutables much, but that disclaimer kept me watching this one.
alas I am a tinkerer too, reformats have been a part of my life for probably the last 20 years.
Really nice to see you trusting a Fedora distro again - what RHEL did really sucks, but Fedora still is FOSS, so have fun :)
Great Vid, I missed the stream ...
Hey Chris, in the "Bazzite Setup" you can actually click on the arrows on the right side, to choose what to install, you just clicked the switch and it installed every option like chrome, edge (...) 😅 there is a small little arrow on the right.
I mean, that's just confusing on their side. I did the same in my first install.
on my first install I got confused why the main toggle wasn't on when I picked certain options instead, which at first I thought nothing would install@@TurntableTV
...consistency is key!
1:05:15 Is this Chris’ first ever troll? Like actual troll? Chris is FAMOUS now! Congrats on the fame!! 😁😂👍
I'm a few weeks into Bazzite, after installing it on a mini PC booting direct into Steam attached to my living room TV, for which I think its been brilliant so far.
This does seem pretty cool and probably the only way to tempt me to an immutable distro. I do have a soft spot for those HP xeon boxes too. My last company a few years ago, we used to be able to requisition anything we needed from monitors to phones to workstations. We all pretty much got a new xeon workstations and laptops when we wanted one. Those things... are a beast with two processors, each proc getting its own RAM of course and such and HP enterprise hardware stuff was always well built. No idea how much power those workstations were using.
Isolating two gpus into their own IMMOU groups for pass-through is the hardest part for me with two amd GPUs
Just installed it today want a simple Linux for gaming and im enjoying it ^^
I was waiting got this!
@26:00 "It's on the slow side, I think there's something happening in the background we need to look at" Titus about to discover xzutils backdoor 2 electric boogaloo
Yea the linus tech tips thing could've still been avoided. it could've changed the text color to red, and there's a built in way to make text flash, so make it flashing red test saying "yes, do as I say"
Oh for sure! Also APT was bugged because of a bad System76 patch and that should have never been possible. I like to joke about the Linus incident, but he just did what most normal users would have done.
@@TitusTechTalk both parties are in the wrong IMO. I'm not blaming linus because most users, especially windows converts, they don't read anything and will just do whatever it says.
flashing red text should be spooky enough to the average user to be like "oh dang what am I doing?" and maybe snap them out of their "installing daze"
@@TitusTechTalk Part of the reason Universal Blue started is because linux distributions aren't prioritizing reliability and this was the only way to make them pay attention. The Linus thing isn't a joke, the joke is that people still think traditional Linuxes are reliable enough for end users, but hopefully we can change that.
@@TitusTechTalk breaking news, apt 2.9 has added colors to the interface, installing will be green, removing will be red.
this is a huge improvement to readability.
@@TitusTechTalk The problem is that Linus isn't a 'normal user', he's portraying himself as a subject matter expert when he is, in fact, far from it.
Commenting before I know the results, based on what I've seen... Bazzite will install without issue.
Loading, loading, loading ...
Keep those doggies loading ...
Only a few days into Bazzite myself but really liking it so far. I left my second gpu out and still failed to install and I had to start with Kinoite then rebase into Bazzite. Worked flawlessly that way. Still trying to get used to the containers, and figure out what you can/can't do with them. I only play a few games but so far they've worked fairly well with the exception of Rocksmith, which, as usual, took some tinkering.
I loved Nobara so much but the upgrade from 37 to 38 nuked my Win10 bootloader on the other drive, somehow. This has be intrigued. Im going full linux when Win10 ends if ljfes
Bestie on my pc😂
I tried installing Bazzite KDE on a friends pc with a 4090 gfx card. Had issues with second monitor being a black screen with cursor. Changing display settings like extend desktop or refresh rate would completely lock the system. Real shame as for once they were open to give Linux ago
Nvidia issue: doesn't work well with Wayland and Unfortunately, X11 doesn't do well with monitors with different refresh rates. They're about 90% resolved and expected to have something mid-May.
Just to add that my monitors did work to use bazzite and i have a 2080ti, download the Nvidia stable release and both seem to work fine, I'm using X11
@@AlwaysRaging21 Yeah interestingly I have Clevo laptop with a 2070 Super and didnt have the same issues. Looking through the git repo there is an active issue logged a few days ago related to SDDM and KDE not playing ball, reports say the know version isnt having these issues. One work around is to have only one monitor connected at login, didn't get a chance to try it unfortunately.
yup, got the same issue here on my Legion Pro laptop. I try installing Bazzite with external monitor connected, blank screen. don't even give me the change to install :(
so sad.
But does it run Star Citizen out of the box?
Great and informative video! Have you considered joining the Bazzite Team?
anecdotally, I've been playing HD2 on Garuda on X11 just fine
I'm wondering... what's so bad about Razer?
I'm asking as I am currently using both Razer Mouse and Keyboard. And I don't have any issues with them, other than having no software. So... is it the missing software that makes Razer extremely generic and therefore bad or is there another reason?
where whould you put bazzite on the linux tierlist
S Tier
@@TitusTechTalk is it better than nobara in your opinion?
definetly
Yes better than Nobara. Updates are safer with that kind of immutable system.
Bazzite should drop the Fedora installer and go with something as idiot proof as possible for non Linux initiated folks. That would go a very long way to more adoption imo.
Fedora is about to improve their installer, so soon it wont be an issue
what the... it' my 3rd time breaking bazzite without intention to do so 😅
Yay.
hikariknight was the one that bombed you off the cliff lol
I'm literally 5 minutes done installing it on the laptop I'm typing this on... Just need to install QEMU/virt-manager to get it back to being my "third line backup to connect to work" (Windows required for work telephony desktop app)
Only problem I'm seeing is it moans at boot about a TPM error and I need to "Press any key to continue". TPM is enabled in the BIOS, it's not a huge issue to me. If it gets fixed, yay. If not, no great loss...
Doesn't bazzite say not to put in on Ventoy?
Nope, it's fine now. The offline ISOs made it absolutely fine to do.
only back when we used online net installer isos that would break on ventoy.
Allways remeber - GTX 1660 have a USB-C port, which brakes 50% of Linux Installations
Mostly for gaming, Bazzite, Nobara, Garuda or ChimeraOS?
Thanks!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Is there a playlist anywhere of your background music? Absolutely loving the first song.
huh...I just installed Bazzite 1 hour age.
Do you have dual monitor is every thing working fine?
I bought Razer Hammerheads (wired) in like... when they first came out. Superb build quality and sounds good too! I've had the Razer Orochi v1 and Viper ultimate. Great mice. "Don't buy Razer" is a bad advice. You could just as easily say don't buy microsoft/logitech. All manufacturers have good and bad products. But yes, I totally agree, do not buy Razer keyboards.
Had the OG Razer Blackwidow since launch 2010, and it still works perfectly. In fact, you couldn't even tell any wear on the damn thing! I game a lot, raiding in Warcraft several days a week as well. All the other games I have played on this keyboard, as well as general computing it must easily have 20k hours on it or more.
Hi. The video over before I have see the GPU passthrough :(
Rpm-ostree is too slow:(
Another good alternative to bazzite is Aurora-dx. Aurora-dx is more geared to general desktop use and coding tools; it has virt manager preinstalled and configured on the base image etc. The next release of bazzite should really have a dx version too.
Chris, could it be a solution to play destiny 2 and avoid ban from bungie for playing on Linux?
It updates on every reboot.. it pulls a fresh image from git...
G'day mate, found your video as I'm about to try dive into Linux as a desktop OS replacement for Windows primarily for gaming. Hoping you or someone in the comments can help me however as I have a specific hardware issue/use case that I solved on Endeavour/Arch, but can't work out how to solve on Fedora/Bazzite: installing the it87 kernel module for modprobe. My mobo (Gigabyte B550i) uses a fan controller chipset that isn't detected in the main kernel sensors-detect, but does work if I install the it87 module. I need this because my GPU is deshrouded and is cooled by a mobo fan header, hence needing to use CoolerControl to control it.
So as a Linux newbie, how would I go about installing this on Fedora/Bazzite?
Thorium Appimage is probably the easiest way to go
yep it's good stuff
So this won't work for nvidia gpu
Nvidia is not open sourcing their drivers.
Bazzite link not working..not even the github link work....
So, tried Bazzite, generally work fine.
Open Steam, run Cossacks 3 and have an "Access violation" error.
No matter whether I click OK or Cancel game not running.
First game i tried on this system :|
Now trying to tune it work.
On Mint, it just worked without any tuning :\
And I run RX 7800 XT not nvidia.
post on their github not here
When trying to install Bazzite on my mini PC i kept getting a "device active" error message and now I can't boot into Windows anymore. Any advice?
turn off windows fast boot
Install takes forever because it's so big.
Idk why the FPS drops to 20 in game mode LMAO
nothing really seems that odd about your system.. other than maybe 1 nvidia 1 amd gpu but n ever had issues with that either
Maybe you should actually USE the os for a while before telling everyone how they need to switch lol. It doesnt work with nvcc which makes running ALVR (to use a quest headset with steamvr) completely impossible. And the way they set everything up nothing works thanks to all the flatpaks etc. Bunch of bullshit.
how does this compare to nobara ?
I think Nobara is better
@@beatsdtx06 thank you for taking the time to answer i been thinking about dumping windows and trying linux out and was considering nobara or bazzite
What is the issue with Nvidia cards? Is just your inate ability to break things? Admittedly, I haven't tried Nvidia plus AMD GPU but Nvidia plus Intel Discreet GPU works just fine on most Linux systems these days. I've had zero issues with Nvidia and Linux for years now, maybe even a decade or so. Even Debian realized their founding principles allowed/encourage providing propriety drivers. Only the FSF and it's zealots have such issues with "proprietary" drivers and blobs. Which makes no sense as we have always relief on proprietary closed source components since the dawn of computing.
bazzite is bugged ....its desktop graphics flickers while watching videos on a browser... stick with ubuntu or fedora that are a little bit more polished
Really did you try other browsers ?
I'm willing to bet that is an NVIDIA issue.
@@XeZrunnerour some Wayland bs👀
100% nvidia issue and would affect any distro where you use nvidia and wayland until the next nvidia driver release and xwayland update
And yet, here I am, watching this very video in Thorium, running on Bazzite, on a Razer Blade Stealth with nVidia graphics, with no flickering.
Meanwhile in the real world I just use my Mac and get on with work. You on the other hand just screw around.
Why is he in DOS?
In the near future I want to try this on a old Lenovo laptop that has Win 8.1 on it. I can't afford a new laptop and gives me a chance to play with Linux.
1:05:48
"We all bought Razer products" ... I never did. I never was a fan of the over-the-top designs of their products including pointless features like RGB lighting for a ridiculously high price. I guess that at least partially explains why I don't have a PS5 as well... although in that case I have a longstanding grudge against Sony since the mid 90s. This RGB crap seems to be getting more mainstream and cheaper as a result, but I still don't like Razer's sharp overall design aesthetic (and still high prices for the mediocrity you get).
I guess you live under a rock
RTX 40 series runs better on Linux today then any AMD card, just take the propriotary driver.
Something has to be wrong with this deployment thing, or bazzite servers its getting data from might be dying or something because i literally installed 4 windows 11 from power up to desktop in the time this took. Thats almost 8 times the data.
U can use slots while covered by gpus by the power of low profile PCIE extension cable thing.
Also what the hell are you talking about, wayland is the biggest linux failure in years. Imagine if Apple or Microsoft released a patch to their os that for OVER A MTHF YEAR made literally half of games unstable stutter feast, made it impossible to have administrator rights in your file browser and broke keyboard and mouse shortcuts to all hell so even the basic functionality like push to talk inst working, and crashing even build in desktop apps that are supposed to be build for it. Even to this day, even in Plasma 6, which is build for wayland, all you have to do is play a bit with positioning of panels, try to customise some stuff and voila, u have artifacts or the desktops just dies. Its literally beta software that shouldnt have been released to public at all. Its not helping linux adoption.
> wayland is the biggest Linux failure in years
Yeah. Is still far of reaching the same level of functionality than X11, but almost nobody maintains X11.
> Its literally beta software that shouldn't have been released to public at all. Its not helping Linux adoption.
A lot of distros aimed to starters have enabled X11 by default, a good example is Mint. And yes wayland is still far from being feature-complete, but how else you speed up the development without releasing it to the masses to pinpoint possible issues?