How much bend can make your graphics card beyond repair ?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @FreneticSynapses
    @FreneticSynapses 16 дней назад +76

    The longer format is greatly appreciated.

    • @giantbellend
      @giantbellend 16 дней назад +1

      Snap! 10/15 min videos that are cut or sped up when he does re-balls and solders memory chips are enjoyable to watch. I like his little rambling too. I learn a lot

  • @nebulink
    @nebulink 16 дней назад +17

    +1 for the longer format. I am glad others feel the same. I thought it was just me.

  • @PaulBlartGaming
    @PaulBlartGaming 16 дней назад +102

    They wanted the same bend as their monitor!

    •  16 дней назад +9

      Folding screens must be paired with folding cards.

    • @VIT-ey8wo
      @VIT-ey8wo 16 дней назад +8

      Well duh.
      How else do you bend the image?

    • @samadel.a765
      @samadel.a765 14 дней назад

      @@VIT-ey8wo lol

  • @ExzeroX
    @ExzeroX 16 дней назад +23

    I really liked this video, You answered a bunch of questions that I am sure most viewers were curious about. We got great bonus context like the inside of the testing box, the inside of your heater. And most of all, we got another successful repair to enjoy. I would love it if you would bring these long form videos out every so often.

  • @rexsr93
    @rexsr93 16 дней назад +5

    I got the same spot welder! Was like $22 and works really well. Made a few "Makita" batteries with it and everthing worked like a dream. Can only recommend.

  • @hashemmi24
    @hashemmi24 16 дней назад +47

    Get some ferrule crimper for the ceramic block, automation uses coated copper and car audio uses copper. Also flux helps with the carbon cleaning

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  16 дней назад +26

      Just ordered a kit. Thank you

    • @Aisflou
      @Aisflou 15 дней назад

      ​@@northwestrepair Put the ceramic bloc on the underside, not in the back of the heat element, to stay away from the heat all you can... Maybe it will help

    • @ranjitmandal1612
      @ranjitmandal1612 15 дней назад

      😨

    • @Alan_J_T
      @Alan_J_T 14 дней назад

      Yep best bet I put tin Coated copper Ferrels on every thing saves a lot of problems and protects the copper wires from any crimping or clamping dammage

    • @Kwaq84
      @Kwaq84 14 дней назад

      ​@@northwestrepairyou may want to take a look at lambda sensors cables, they are high temperature resistant. Ask your local car mechanic for a bad oxygen sensor (lambda sensor) with long, undamaged cables.

  • @ZeePanzer
    @ZeePanzer 3 дня назад +2

    I would love to see a spreadsheet of good and garbaje boards by model, made by someone with this amount of knowledge.

  • @duncanh3721
    @duncanh3721 16 дней назад +9

    Something that would be cool I would definitely tip you a couple bucks, if you could make a small buyers guide of best models and manufacturers based on quality of fabrication. I think a lot of people would appreciate that. Thanks for you video! Always a pleasure!

    • @The_Man_In_Red
      @The_Man_In_Red 16 дней назад

      Between Techpowerup (website) and Buildzoid (RUclips channel AHOC) there's pretty much a PCB analysis of every card model available. You can also easily determine which models have heatsinks & cooling solutions that are overkill and which don't have nearly enough.
      It's not foolproof but that's how I shop for a GPU.

    • @ImUrNightTerror
      @ImUrNightTerror 15 дней назад +1

      This would make a great video, like a brand tier list, I kept watching the video and now it seems like Its no longer necessary and brands dont matter since it depends on the model.

    • @nobody-pr7fg
      @nobody-pr7fg 15 дней назад

      Absolutely. I know he doesn't hold AMD in high regard

    • @TheVaryingVariable
      @TheVaryingVariable 6 дней назад

      @@nobody-pr7fg you need to be more specific. AMD boards are well designed/protected but the cores are mostly garbo.

  • @AlienAmongst
    @AlienAmongst 14 дней назад +1

    Clicked because of Fallout thumbnail stayed for the crazy expertism this man has

  • @MasterJediSean
    @MasterJediSean 16 дней назад +3

    Tony is the GOAT of GPU fixing! Cheers!

  • @johanrynjah8241
    @johanrynjah8241 16 дней назад +4

    I use carbon-based tweezers instead of metal when soldering, so that the heat is concentrated on the soldered parts and not transferred into the tweezers lowering the temperature (especially when using pointed solder bits), I learned this from a friend who does metal brazing for a living, he had the jaws of his vice custom-made from dense bakelite material and I asked him why and thus it leads to a discussion of heat dissipation during brazing and soldering.

  • @Myrune1
    @Myrune1 16 дней назад

    I love watching these videos. There is something cathartic about watching these repairs. Thank you for sharing.

  • @prabhath96
    @prabhath96 16 дней назад +13

    really like this episode

  • @adampilewski3969
    @adampilewski3969 16 дней назад +5

    "Whatever you afraid off. They'll do."😂 Nice one. Im not afraid off my zotac 1070 AMP extream. Its still working great.😊

    • @SyncF
      @SyncF 16 дней назад +1

      Zotac cheaps out on fans, but power delivery is great

  • @rongray8934
    @rongray8934 15 дней назад

    I ordered 250k .45 solder balls. Going to give this a try. All your fault. Well a few other channels as well. Thanks for sharing all your vast knowledge.

  • @fowlizm9065
    @fowlizm9065 16 дней назад +6

    the 50 minutes passed so quickly, love the content man

  • @handyman1957
    @handyman1957 16 дней назад +24

    Really liked the long format, always informative. But I really miss your longer reball with music. Something very therapeutic about it. Also would really like to see your thoughts on the spot welder.

  • @technolucas3720
    @technolucas3720 14 дней назад +1

    I love watching your workflow. Keep up the good work!

  • @thatguy7085
    @thatguy7085 16 дней назад +7

    When I got my first 8086, 8088, and then 386, all the cards were plugged in standing up straight.
    They were ‘desk top’ computers that usually the monitor sat on top of.
    Now for so wacky reason, motherboards are on their sides, and heavy video cards are sideways stressing everything from the board connection to the bearings on the fans….
    WHY?… did some tech designer loose their mind and understanding of physics or gravity?

  • @Foxx_69
    @Foxx_69 16 дней назад +1

    Like how you customize everything. Make it work for you

  • @FetchTheCow
    @FetchTheCow 12 дней назад

    I like your recommendations for specific cards, and your explanations why.

  • @optimal9094
    @optimal9094 2 дня назад

    I confess this level of expertise is beyond my interests but it was still fun to watch - timestamps for the key sections would be appreciated!
    Anyway, it made me feel happy I am using the supporting stand of my 3080 Suprim X since day one.

  • @colincampbell4505
    @colincampbell4505 16 дней назад +1

    I bought a kit of high temp crimp connectors from the service counter at a local restaurant supply businesses. They are used in all sorts of restaurant equipment.

  • @BernerV
    @BernerV 16 дней назад +3

    Hi. One thing you can try on your heater is to connect the two ceramic protected wires directly to the connector. Direct copper connection is better then with cable shoes you are putting on the end of the wire. If you are able to change the two wires change them to a bigger size wire. That will reduce heat production at the connection point and in the wire itself.

  • @puknut
    @puknut 16 дней назад

    The absolute love that these boards receive is astounding. Amazing!

  • @Iscandelt
    @Iscandelt 16 дней назад

    You can't use flux instead of thermal paste due to it's viscosity and some other parameters. It'll be very prone to pump-out, will smell weirdly and if activated will loose some of it's thermal conductivness.
    Great video, as usual ;)

  • @evolancer211
    @evolancer211 16 дней назад

    I've been known to do some soldering for work and it's good to see that our technique are similar

  • @CocolinoFan
    @CocolinoFan 15 дней назад

    You are doing great work

  • @FearTec
    @FearTec 16 дней назад

    Watched the lot even though i don’t fix cards. Thanks for sharing preventative maintenance

  • @yokailover
    @yokailover 16 дней назад +9

    eyes his XFX Speedster SWFT319 RX 6800....."hang in there, buddy..." 😅

    • @michaelhemric5228
      @michaelhemric5228 16 дней назад

      I have ran several sapphire cards and all the amd ones have been solid the 6950xt and 7900xt are the latest the drivers have always given me more trouble than the board itself

    • @synthetix83
      @synthetix83 16 дней назад +3

      I have the same xfx 6800 lol not scared of failure tho. As much as I like these videos I take his talk about AMD with a grain of salt.

  • @allenm00
    @allenm00 3 дня назад

    44:55 I used to tin wires before attaching them like that as well until we did a wire retention test at work on a project. We found that the tinned wire was easier to pull out than the bare copper wire and a ferrule was the best retention. We were all surprised by that outcome.

  • @ranjitmandal1612
    @ranjitmandal1612 15 дней назад

    Absolutely great work 👏

  • @atsimas
    @atsimas 15 дней назад

    Yes to a review/ guide about the spot welder.

  • @bogganalseryd2324
    @bogganalseryd2324 16 дней назад

    I've heard you my guy, your on our team. Team FE. ❤

  • @Durzel
    @Durzel 16 дней назад +2

    Really enjoy your work. It's a shame that it takes so much time, because it's not the sort of assembly line work that is going to get you a "better than factory" $1m house, but for the people you're helping who have spent a fortune on these cards who have no one else to turn to - you're basically like their saviour.

  • @commonnerfer
    @commonnerfer 16 дней назад +3

    So the way that we fix bent cards like that is we usually heat it up in an oven and get two peices of balsa wood and clamp them together we let it heat up and then every few minutes after it heats up we tighten it to straighten it out.
    Most of the non flat/surface mount components will have to be taken off first

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil 15 дней назад +1

    hi if you make yourself some killed spirit flux ,or cut up a AA battery casing the soft type ,cut into tiny peices then add battery acid just enough till its covered now put it outside and leave it till the reaction completely stops now pour the liquid into a tiny glass jar with a lid ,just a cotton bud dipped in ,then rub on the metal to be soldered,it will etch stainless,alluminium,brass even spring steel ,will make the solder sick like glue

    • @katiekumcgil
      @katiekumcgil 15 дней назад

      will need a decent wattage iron though 60 and up

  • @Flying0Dismount
    @Flying0Dismount 14 дней назад

    Steel crimp ferrules are what you want, but if you can't find those, just snip the tab off the crimp you used and make sure the screw in the terminal clamps down onto the sire through the remaining crimp collar. If you just clamp the tab end, the problem is that as you use that heater, the heat from the large current flow softens the crimp and it starts to relax and the connection progressively gets worse and worse.. If you clamp down on the wire, the ferrule (or the remaining crimp collar) basically protects the wire from damage by the screw, but allows you to really crank down and get a tight connection..

  • @blackwidowrsa
    @blackwidowrsa 16 дней назад +2

    Yes, please review that battery spot welder. I've had my eye on it for months.

  • @runderwo
    @runderwo 16 дней назад

    I particularly love those kind of days where you spend half the day fixing your tools before even starting to get anything done.

  • @Lee-SR71
    @Lee-SR71 16 дней назад

    Great video really enjoyed this longer format

  • @Teste-gp7bm
    @Teste-gp7bm 16 дней назад +5

    You have no idea how toxic lead is. Worse, it builds up in the body. That is why it is banned for use mostly everywhere.
    Besides it is a non issue. Lead free solders have been solved at least more than 10y now.
    Actually they should ban leaded solder for repairs too. I have done repairs with CuSnAg and it is long lasting, no issues at all.
    Some adjustment is need on practices but it can be done well.

    • @dalriada
      @dalriada 16 дней назад +2

      Exactly. Why complain about not having to work with a neurotoxin?

    • @tourmaline07
      @tourmaline07 16 дней назад

      Lead is like asbestos - an incredibly useful material and very abundant , just has the small problem of being bad for human beings who come into contact with it 😂

  • @stevehyde7431
    @stevehyde7431 7 дней назад

    hi John.your burnt heater connections need NI-CHROME LUGS for hot connections. Nickel-Chrome Lugs are more heat resistant than the rest. thx for great content...

  • @CarMake
    @CarMake 13 дней назад +2

    THIS! After Sorin video today saying how reball is complete waste of time lol
    This the real clash of the titans!

  • @tonict2302
    @tonict2302 16 дней назад +4

    Awesome video

  • @Inphinityproductions
    @Inphinityproductions 16 дней назад +1

    Thank you for your recommendations

  • @TheDeeGeeNL
    @TheDeeGeeNL 16 дней назад +1

    Flux will probably pumpout within one duty cycle as thermal paste. I have switched to a Thermal Grizzly Kryosheet on my RTX 4070 Ti, stock temps again and they won't degrade.

  • @kokodin5895
    @kokodin5895 2 дня назад

    the ends of the heater are bare resistive wire, it tends to het hard after overheating and is unable to solter,all resistive wires are nickle based so spot welding in nickle foil should work, the thing is it is still resistive so the key is to make as big of a conection patch as possible
    you could also try removing the beeds and braiding copper wire alongs side the one th t stick out then sticking the beeds back on the brade, but that would increase the load on the heater itself

  • @JJFX-
    @JJFX- 10 дней назад

    Not sure if it'd help but I've had good luck with backup battery power stations in a condo that can't handle a lot of load where I need it. Unlike a lot of brands the two Dabbsson units I got shares the load across both inverters, effectively doubling the max output power, along with the capacity. Some brands like this also support 240V with two units using an additional parallel connector.
    Just one of mine by itself handles up to 2200W continuous (close to where many 15A breakers start tripping), and cost me ~$500 during a sale. A lot of power with a lot of capacity obviously isn't cheap but it might be worth looking into during the holidays, unless you want to build your own.
    The portability of these things is really convenient... Basically a little generator for power tools you can throw in the trunk of a car.

  • @bakzetary3145
    @bakzetary3145 16 дней назад

    That was a tough one; great job!

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil 15 дней назад +1

    could allways braid on some high temp wire to then slide a couple high temp sleeve over that

  • @JasonMohammed
    @JasonMohammed 16 дней назад

    I don't understand everything but I enjoy the cheesy 80s music during reball. That's all I come here for 👍

  • @kumbaj1612
    @kumbaj1612 15 дней назад

    came home from night shift at 7 am and spent 53 min watching this XD

  • @michaelhemric5228
    @michaelhemric5228 16 дней назад

    Copper connectors will work pretty well for your heater thats what we use in our welders and they can get pretty hot at times, soldier will just wick up the wire as it heats up but im sure you know this

  • @GabaranRickshaw
    @GabaranRickshaw 16 дней назад

    I love your work!

  • @aitorbleda8267
    @aitorbleda8267 15 дней назад +1

    I always find interesting how the homes in the US are wired. I live in a tiny house in the UK but have 240v and 32A for my sockets in the living room, while homes in the US are much bigger and have 16A for general use sockets with 120v. So 4x less for a bigger space!

    • @RT-qd8yl
      @RT-qd8yl День назад

      We have 240 coming into our houses. If you want a 240 outlet it's literally nothing to just run a new circuit and install one.

  • @SpainSpace
    @SpainSpace 16 дней назад +2

    Tony, if you were to buy a GPU right now and had to choose a brand, based exclusively on build quality from a repairability standpoint, regardless of it being NVIDIA or AMD, which would you rather buy?

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight 15 дней назад

    A descent crimper will make your life easier, forget the welding it, consider brazing instead... its often overlooked but its good for getting into little tiny crevices, have even seen cracked cylinder blocks repaired that way...

  • @Rmm1722
    @Rmm1722 16 дней назад

    Interesting information ℹ️😮

  • @naso_g
    @naso_g 15 дней назад

    This GPU was prob shipped in a PC while connected to the PCI slot. Good job fixing it with that amount of bend damage.

  • @theoldbigmoose
    @theoldbigmoose 16 дней назад +4

    You should start selling tools and particularly flux and solder balls etc. Your recommendations are gold

  • @Afonso159951
    @Afonso159951 16 дней назад +1

    you should start livestreaming your repairs on twitch, great work

  • @vincentisaacvoces2553
    @vincentisaacvoces2553 16 дней назад

    nice teardowns.

  • @fu1r4
    @fu1r4 16 дней назад

    13:47 You should be using pipe cable shoes that you can solder on the cable.
    45:00 Never use tin at the end of a cable. Tin is soft and after some time it will make the cable loose.
    That is why you don't tin the cable ends in a lamp or other home device. You always use end sleeves ...

  • @Fk8td
    @Fk8td 16 дней назад

    I wouldn’t use that style crimper. Use one that has a center style crush not outer edge. It will improve when using any sort of butt connector and the continuity in the long-term. After 25 years in automotive and dealing with electrical and building some harnesses from time to time, it is a better solution.

  • @jasonkaiser1179
    @jasonkaiser1179 16 дней назад

    Loved this vid!

  • @Justsomedude362
    @Justsomedude362 16 дней назад

    As flat of a surface as possible, such as the earth. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks for all the jokes in the videos, education and humor go hand in hand.

  • @nexus99
    @nexus99 16 дней назад

    very informative!

  • @RobertRidgley
    @RobertRidgley 16 дней назад

    Good fix.

  • @codm1934
    @codm1934 16 дней назад +2

    30:46 you missed 3 pads😅

  • @hi-friaudioman
    @hi-friaudioman 16 дней назад +11

    I just fixed a HP 4070ti and it had the WORST quality solder balls ive ever seen!
    The card had zero physical damage, the memory rails were measuring 180ohms on Micron memory and when i removed the solder all of it was completely grey, every single solder ball was oxidized and it bubbled and fizzed when heated. Also when cleaning the solder off the board it left literal dirt all over the board. I've never seen anything like it before. Lead free solder is the WORST.

  • @derekbrewer9681
    @derekbrewer9681 16 дней назад

    ROHS came into effect around 2006, with lead free packaging being mandated since 09, modern lead free solder chemistry is mostly no worse to work then 60/40 and actually has better mechanical properties then 60/40 in many cases. Clearly the reality is that its just hard to keep such massive FC-BGA packages on a whippy piece of fiberglass, especially when the cards arent mechanically supported properly and then beat to hell in shipping lol.

  • @MrMooAndMoonSquirrelToo
    @MrMooAndMoonSquirrelToo 3 дня назад

    Yay I can read. I was worried for a sec.

  • @amacielbr
    @amacielbr 15 дней назад +1

    "The only way to fix the twist on the board is to flatten the board, put it on the flattest surface that you can, such as the Earth". Hahahaha.

  • @PixelPenguin-gio
    @PixelPenguin-gio 15 дней назад +1

    i want a compilation of every time he said balls.

  • @atsimas
    @atsimas 15 дней назад

    45:12 If you want the cable really crimped, screw the screw in, out , in, out and in. That should distribute the forces evenly. Electricians do it this way.

  • @ohmleth
    @ohmleth 16 дней назад

    Liked the testing box DLC

  • @TheDoomerBlox
    @TheDoomerBlox 15 дней назад

    12:20 - certified 12VHPWR moment

  • @ChzimpO
    @ChzimpO 15 дней назад +1

    BOOST THE VIEWS!!!

  • @nnighthawk
    @nnighthawk 16 дней назад

    @northwestrepair Do not tin the end of a wire going into a screw connection! Tinned wire will deform over time, loosening the connection and produce a big fire hazard, especially if high amperage is involved. Also tin will always go much deeper into the wire, than just the connection point, especially if it has a lot of strands. Wire with tin is less flexible, so there will be a breaking point where the tin ends due to most future bends starting and ending right there.
    Instead you should use crimped end sleeves. Can be bought in China for cheap, along with a definitely good enough criming tool. (For the resulting connection it doesn't matter if the crimped wire has 4 or 6 sides in the end.)

  • @Dj_Marinho
    @Dj_Marinho 16 дней назад

    13:00 Use ferrule crimper, make some loop using the wire and put te connector.

  • @samadel.a765
    @samadel.a765 14 дней назад

    i think the problem with that ceramic connector could be fixed if you tried before to clean it up using some sort of slightly mild acid to and then alcohol and then heat it with the hotair to like pre-heat it then try to solder it (soldering it)
    ...after a bit of thinking its much easier to just spot weld it in place👀

  • @sullytrny
    @sullytrny 16 дней назад

    I seen wear like that on automotive wheel bearings chained down to hard on the car carriers. It happens in construction zones with those rumble strip speed bump thingys

  • @agentkruger
    @agentkruger 16 дней назад +6

    Je me demande pourquoi les gens n'utilise pas une extension PCI-E afin de réduire le risque de distorsion et de casse sur ce genre de carte qui sont de plus en plus lourde?

  • @lukomiro
    @lukomiro 12 дней назад

    MSI 3080 Ventus - I have already repaired several of these GPUs, and I can say one thing, that after unsoldering the GPU, you need to carefully check whether any of the pads from "CB46 to CB61" are not loose, if so, I tear out and insert a new one.

  • @finmat95
    @finmat95 5 дней назад

    "How much bend can make your graphics card beyond repair ?"
    "I don't really know, let's test it."
    * start to bend it *

  • @8alakai8
    @8alakai8 16 дней назад

    when building and repairing racing drones i hated lead free solder on tip if you have to solder it lose at home put some lead solder on there then it will melt more easy i have found

  • @raass233
    @raass233 16 дней назад +1

    I bet the vid doesn't do justice to how small those pads really are. Awesome work.

  • @ThisGuy-kk1lp
    @ThisGuy-kk1lp 15 дней назад

    What I don’t understand is that gpu’s have gotten so large and heavy that without additional support they will all fail in time. It’s about time the gpu/motherboard is reinvented. Why would I pay upwards of $2000 for a video card that can’t support its own weight. That sounds like a lawsuit to me.

  • @mikegaming4924
    @mikegaming4924 16 дней назад

    yes, I had one of these, a GPU with bent board. I replaced the VRAM chip with new but it failed quite soon

  • @mr.transposon5017
    @mr.transposon5017 16 дней назад

    Thats why I got the MSI Trio non X. Msrp $1600, less power delivery, less voltage to deal with.

  • @agentkruger
    @agentkruger 16 дней назад +4

    28:12 It’s an almost surgical operation; which brings me back to my first question, why don't graphics card manufacturers put a slot for GPU and Vram modules like in PC motherboards?

    • @markwazowskinreal
      @markwazowskinreal 16 дней назад +7

      Latency if I remember correctly

    • @agentkruger
      @agentkruger 16 дней назад +6

      @@markwazowskinreal I think they can get around this with the technology they have today, and the graphics cards will be easier to repair and upgrade, imagine if you can add more VRAM and change GPUs, you buy a 4060 then you move to a 4090; I think manufacturers just don't want people to be able to upgrade and repair their graphics cards.

    • @malkyprijemny7077
      @malkyprijemny7077 16 дней назад +1

      @@agentkruger you answered yourself, its cuz munyyy

    • @Kiburici
      @Kiburici 16 дней назад +4

      @@agentkruger no, you can't, ddr5 on laptops its unstable after 6000, so they are soldering it now, even on pc high ddr5 freq its no stable with 4 dimms. and you are forgetting that "GDDR6 and HBM still outperform DDR5 by 10x" , you can read about signal integrity and u will see that is impossible

    • @agentkruger
      @agentkruger 16 дней назад

      @@malkyprijemny7077 because there is my understanding of things and the truth which are two distinct things but which can come together if there are other different opinions

  • @miguelfernandez2325
    @miguelfernandez2325 16 дней назад

    I like Asus strix cards. I think they might be better than MSI. What do you say Tony?

  • @richybean2421
    @richybean2421 16 дней назад

    where can i find the stl for the hot air mount? i appreciate you Tony!

  • @yanikdn
    @yanikdn 16 дней назад

    alot new stuff learned again from this video. Wonder when the pcb is bended when you heat it up with weights on it you able to straighten it back fully to its original form because of the heat or do it stay permenant twisted in some kinda degree?

  • @uTi_Mr_Pointy
    @uTi_Mr_Pointy 16 дней назад +1

    How much does a repair like that set the owner of the card back? Ballpark.

  • @TheRepairMan-yj3zp
    @TheRepairMan-yj3zp 16 дней назад

    you should roll some nickel band around the wire then insert in the socket then tight the screw very good, you should not have problem in the future!

  • @samadel.a765
    @samadel.a765 14 дней назад

    adding the extra switches to the 3 heating elements is what i thought you've already done it would be more reliable that way

  • @DIYRepairHour
    @DIYRepairHour 16 дней назад

    @37:25 what a coincidence, I'm just doing this exact thing to a 980Ti PCB :D

  • @samuellopez-je9nw
    @samuellopez-je9nw 13 дней назад

    try antioxidant paste..? or use similar metal its the issue u get when using copper+aluminum but made worse due to use case and heat...