I sold my Rogue RML-3 power rack, heres why...
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2020
- I sold my Rogue RML-3 which is a monster lite rack that Rogue Fitness equipment offers. Instead I bought a PR-5000 V2 from Rep Fitness based in Denver, Colorado and I had a pleasant experience to say the least.
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I initially wanted to get the PR-4000 because of the westside barbell spacing, and the very low price (considering the quality), however, those racks will not be in stock until the end of June, going into early July. So instead, I decided to upgrade to the PR-5000 V2, which is comparable to the Rogue Monster Power Racks, with a raw clear coat and red crossmembers, along with some safety straps, and I am so glad that I did. It was definitely a grind getting this power rack due to the insane increase in demand for home gym equipment, but I am so grateful I was able to get my hands on this rack. Although it is imported from China, this rack is incredibly well built and has a weight capacity of 1500 lbs according to Rep Fitness. Rep is also working on lots of new attachments for the PR-5000 V2 that are very similar to the Rogue Monster Rack attachments. These include a belt squat as well as iso lever arms. This rack comes in different heights as well including an 80" height which is ideal for garage or basement gyms that have limited space. This rack is a definite buy for those of your who are looking to home workouts, or looking to buy a centerpiece for your home gym.
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I'm surprised with some of the negative reviews. I was so impressed with the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMwYg0MOXR4M-oGeyBsNSYe1aPOUoRH6D cage that I got the lat pulldown attachment that goes with it. It is equally outstanding. I don't have one complaint other than putting it together is a job. The instructions and packaging of the parts are very well designed and organized. Also, I stripped and damaged the pull down cable the first day, admitting it was my stupid fault, and they quickly replaced it at no charge. I'm 6'5, 280lbs and fit in the cage just fine. Glenn B
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Super nice rack! I really like that clear coat. I’m very happy with my purchases from Rep Fitness!
I dont like screwing equipment to concrete either. I've seen them come out many times. That's why I decided to mount my rack on a platform so it's all free standing and no holes in the floor.
Great video, thanks for all the details. It helps to know how these companies work because we never really get to see what’s going on behind the scenes.
I think the small rack is actually a good thing. It will force you not to squat slanted, which you shouldn't be doing anyway
I agree on the bolting down though that's a pain in the ass
Great video! But I think comparing the monster lite to this isn't a fair comparison. I think if you had a regular monster would be a better comparison . Either way solid video!
Solid Video maybe the RML vs the Rep 4000 would be comparable. If I lifted as much as you I would go with the Rep5000 also.
That clear coat is beautiful. I have a rep bench & I love it
Ulises Lopez thank you!
Nice rack! I have the Rep V1 5000 rack.. I love it... Rep and Rogue are making a killing on this pandemic!!
Dude rack looks incredible! REP is a great company. I recently got the Street Parking plyo box.
Thank you! Love those plyo boxes, enjoy 👍🏻
Bro great review. I appreciate letting us know your experience both with the rack and REP themselves. I ordered the PR-4000 in clear powder coat. Should be arriving in the next 2 weeks.
Fred Prophete thank you! You’ll love it I’m sure 👌🏻
Outstanding information really helpful thanks 👍👍
You’re welcome!
I would have went with this but did not want to pay for shipping. So friday I bought the Titan Fitness tall X-3 with 24" extension. Looking forward to it arriving later this week
Very good info. Thanks
Nice video and detailed review. Noticed you put bands through the holes in the cross-members when doing banded squats. I would just caution you the the sharp edges of the holes could cause wear on your resistance bands leading to the bands snapping under stress.
The raw/red color combo looks amazing btw.
Thanks for the heads up and the kind words!
Nice video dude. My pr4000 with weight storage is coming soon and I’m so exited. I got the matte black and red crossmembers.
Nice man!
As Salaamu Alaykum, I have to support my brothers. I love Rep Fitness. I don't have their rack, but the next rack I purchase will probably be from Rep Fitness. I have purchased their international colored bumper plates. I love the colors for my gym. The PR 5000 looks like an amazing rack, because my training is mostly bodybuilding oriented, I like the high/low cable attachments also.
Rep is the stuff - you are fortunate to live nearby and be able to save on shipping. I’m 2 hours away from rogue hq and can’t wait for them to open it for in person pick up again
Whaaaat you’re lucky you can pickup from rogue once they open up again!
Very nice video man 👌🙌👏👊 Rack looks so solid 💪💪💪 I’ve sold most of my garage equipment for various reasons these last few months, but wanting a new rack in the near future...deciding between Rogue monster or rep pr5000 v2...question, how high is your pull-up bar hanging from ground to top of bar?
Thank you! About 93”
Mohammad Dakkak thanks 👍
Great video very helpful love that rack !
Ahhh nice bro, I picked up some Indy squat stands a while ago still waiting on a titan rack I ordered so once it’s here I can flip the stands
I'm just starting and I just ordered the PR 1100 with a basic barbell and a few plates. I CANT WAIT to get started! I'm so weak :( Jealous you don't have to pay shipping. Even with shipping, my whole set was only $1000.
Congratulations on you new setup, perfect color combination. The RM-4 would be more of an apples to apples comparison since is Rogue’s top of the line series(numbered hole spacing, one inch bolts, attachments have plastic
lining).
Noe Arriaga true true!
Great video! Your rack is the 80" or 93" ?
Thank you!
93”
Great vid brother!
Just a quick correction. They offer the flat foot version that doesn’t need to be bolted down and it’s heavier. You can’t attach bands to it. But another option you had was to bolt it down to plywood and stall mat platform. Would have been pretty sturdy too
I just ordered an RML-3 since it's the smallest rack I could find and I'm setting up a home gym in my bedroom. Do you think I could manage not bolting it down if I don't plan on using bands or anything like that? I will probably never need to rack weight over 350lbs as that's where my squat 1RM is. I was planning to just lay down a 4' x 6' stall mat and placing the rack on that, but if I have to, I will add a wood platform layer below that and drill into the wood. Please let me know what you think! Thanks.
Thanks for the video bro! What is the depth of your rack? Sorry I may have missed that info in the video.
Thanks for posting this video. If you can, please give us an update with how this rack holds up within the next month or so. I'm interested in purchasing a rep rack when they are back in stock.
Got it!
awesome upload, subscribed. I found this company and was doing research on it and I check to see when I can order one. What all is included with the $919 for the pr-5000 v2? TIA
Excellent video man! I just recently purchased a rep Fitness PR 1100. It was the only one available at the time but I'm super happy with it as well! I'm loving my rep Fitness rack. Keep bringing them videos.💪😎
Thank you! The 1100 looks amazing as well brother enjoy it!
Pretty dope, I plan to get that rack aswell. Looks solid and at a fair price.
👌🏻
That rack is sick, does it come with a lifetime warranty? I know a lot of rouge products do which kind of factors into the price because they even replace sometimes when its your fault
I’m not sure, I’d check on their site though!
Great video! What is the depth of your REP rack? 30" or 41"? Thanks!
41” 👍🏻
What do you think about the attachment quality and does it wobble on the ground? I have a rogue rack and thinking about switching as well Thanks
Great detail video is your rack depth 24 and do you find it comfortable
great video.
do you do pull ups on this rack? if so, do you find it tips or moves at all since it's not bolted to the floor?
Thanks, it does not move while doing pull ups!
I live in NY. I love reps products. My only miner complaint about them is how making the power rack built to your accommodations is cool. But it's annoying how much to pay for shipping and handling and it breaks the bank. I wish they just offered the different designs and decide weather or not I want to have the power with or without a lat pulldown cable pulley systems. Like fit archon for example let's you decide which power rack you want.
nice set up brother
I recently sold my Rogue RML-390F and have been deciding if I want this rack or to upgrade to the Rogue RM3. I'm still leaning toward Rogue mostly due to being American made and for the resale value. If I decide to sell it later, I know that I can get most of my money back. I doubt I could say the same about the Rep rack. It also helps that I live close enough to Rogue to pick it up.
Nice! Both companies and racks are amazing!
Chris, just curious but why did you sell your RML-390f? I’m looking at getting a rack and the RML-390f and RM3 are both on my list. How did the 390f powder coat hold up with moving attachments around? I wish the RML attachments had the UHMW on the back of the accessories like the RM series does.
@@branden9 yeah why did you sell? Looking at the RML 3 or 390F.
REP is an awesome brand! I got the HR5000 and it’s sturdier than I ever imagined, only downfall is that it’s currently in a 10x10 room takes up quite a bit of space. Oh well I plan on keeping it long term and moving it to a bigger location to add on the full collegiate set up
That’s awesome!
Nice upgrade
Thank you!
That was a great story and I"m glad it worked out for you.
Thank you!
I am just kind of curious. I don't understand what are the benefits of using bands like you did in the benching clip on the video rather than adding more weight to the bar?
Looks good dude. Glad you like your new rack, but for what its worth the PR5000 is comparable to the RM system which is 1inch hardware. The RML uses 5/8inch hardware.
With the bolting down problem, could you bolt it into a wood platform?
For sure. I was thinking about doing that at some point.
TL;DR: Rep won’t replace substantially damaged parts if Rep deems the damage is “cosmetic.” You cannot call this a premium product when Rep won’t replace ugly, damaged parts. I’m beyond disappointed with the PR-5000 and I may return it at my own expense on principle. Feel free to DM me for pictures of the damage and screenshots of my interactions with customer service. I’ve seen others post similar stories on the r/homegym subreddit as well.
Full experience below:
People need to understand something that RUclipsrs may not be able to speak to because of influencer status. While Rep promises a premium experience, Rep’s customer service is not empowered to meet that expectation when it comes to damaged items. They promise a Rogue level product but provide a Titan level of quality control and dispute resolution.
I recently received a PR-5000. One of the four uprights has a deep gouge in the powder coat. It’s approximately two inches in length and a half inch wide and deep enough that you can see the bare steel. I’m not talking about on one of the feet or the top side of crossmember that’s easily hidden, this gouge runs on the numbered side of an upright from 48"-50", so only a couple feet below eye level. When I messaged Rep and sent pictures, Rep’s rep stated:
“I'm sorry to see that it sustained damage in transit. It appears to be solely cosmetic, which we can be thankful for. Due to this, I cannot sustain an argument to have the entire unit replaced. Nevertheless, in lieu of a replacement, we'd be happy to offer a partial refund of $30 or a gift card for $60.”
I’ll set aside the veracity of that assertion despite my belief the gouge pretty much rules out rust resistance in gouged area and consequently, any outdoor use. But even assuming Rep's right, this rack is overbuilt and excessive in almost every way imaginable-there’s not a lot you can do in here that you couldn’t do in a T3, at a fraction of the cost. What this review correctly indicates, and what Rep sells you on, is that it’s worth paying a premium for the aesthetics of 1” attachments, laser cut logos/numbers… Ultimately, a lot of the value is tied up in the look of it.
This rack costs well over a thousand dollars with shipping. My invoice was $1850. Other products in this price range include Rogue's competitors, Trek bicycles, iPhones/iMacs, designer clothes. Those companies send their defects to boneyard, or to outlets.
If I bought a MacBook and upon opening it, there was a crack in the screen or a dent in the aluminum, Apple would take it back and replace it. They wouldn’t say, “Safari still runs, here’s a $60 iTunes gift card.” If I bought a leather jacket with a tear in the sleeve, Nordstrom wouldn’t tell me that it will keep me warm. The $30 refund Rep offered amounts to a 1.6% rebate on the $1850 I spent with them.
What’s worse is their actual warranty and return website is misleading and deceptive. They claim that, “if your order was damaged during shipment, please contact us immediately so that we can direct you on how to return any times to us…. With the exception of… damages … all shipping costs are the responsibility of the customer.” This is not a fair explanation of their process.
I’m beyond disappointed with them and I may return it at my own expense on principle.
As an “influencer” I am free to speak as good, or bad, about a brand as I see fair. With my own personal experience, I know things aren’t always perfect. I spoke about it in my recent video about the FB 5000, however my experience was totally different because it was a manufacturing defect. I’m sorry your rack isn’t perfect, but it’s not fair to judge a company’s quality based off shipping issues. I hope you get this issue resolved!
Very nice squat form!!
Thank you
Can you deadlift in the rack without the bar contacting the racks base? Thank you.
Yes
I love racks but have issues with them. If the rack and bench aren't exactly straight my bench goes 10-20 pounds down. It feels awkward at times. Also I have a wider grip on the bar and on behalf of that I clip my pinky at times. I'll always prefer a bench alone but still use a rack.
Could you tell me more about the bands that you put on the bar while you were squatting?
Can I have it on the outside or is not made to handle harsh weather over time ?
theres no solution for the tilting other than bolting to the floor? i purchased the rml and now im thinking about canceling the order
Do you think i need to bolt down the rm3 moster or rm3 fortis with rhino installed?
How u doing bro. Hey do u know if the titan attachments 5/8 will fit rogue RML-3 rack, i think they do but but 100% sure. Iam thinkimg about buying a RML-3 rack to drop in my standalone rhino. I already have lots of titan x3, 5/8" attachments.
Hey so just curious did the new rack also tilt like the rogue one did using the exact same setup hand weights etc?! Thanks
Yes the rogue and rep tilt the same
Mohammad Dakkak ok and to solve that there are three options
1. Weight additions on the bars
2. Bolting down
3. Leg extended thingies?
4. Seems more so like a combination of 2/3 options to properly prevent that!
Love the vid and the rack! Considering one myself but for an apartment .... :( lol... and living room setup gotta triple check height issues
It's tilting because your weight storage is on the front. Move it to the back / closer to where your band pegs are and they're less likely to create a hinge
Did you have any issues with the PR-5000 tipping when you used bands? Did you use them with out the extension legs?
I did not and yes, no foot extensions
Mohammad Dakkak awesome! This video was very helpful man as I’m looking to get the PR-4000 when it’s back in stock. Looking forward to getting/using their products
Thanks for this review. Living in California, I’m currently going
through the struggle of waiting for rep racks to restock 😩.
You should check out the Griffin GR3. Based in Ontario California. Reactions seem good so far.
I've been looking at getting the PR-5000V2 for 2 months now but its never in stock! However, it seems that the only way to buy a power rack through REP. You would have to buy it piece by piece whenever they get stock in. Thats just crazy when I see other companies selling there power racks as a whole unit and shipped out together. If I end up buying a REP power rack. I'll have multiple orders. As I would have to wait for in stock on uprights, Crossmembers, logo plate, Pull-Up bar and all the other options. Shipping would be probably close to a $1000 having everything delivered separately. Which is pure insanity!! I put in my cart just (2) 41" crossmembers and that came out to $161 shipping!
So far I've made my 1st order from REP 19 days ago and I finally got noticed it was shipped.
*FT-5000 functional trainer
*AB3000 bench
*2 dumbbell racks
*2" 30ft battle rope
*3 machine attachments and a few other small things.
Thats about 1300lbs+ in weight shipped and my shipping cost was only $222.
For 4 crossmember bars.....$161??? The shit makes no sense!
REPs power racks look beautiful and like the options but I'm probably going to go with a Rogue Monster rack RM-6 2.0
At least I'll know that I'm getting a complete unit shipped to me and knowing the price. Where as REP you can't see the prices unless they show its in stock. Showing on the website $899-$2976 isn't helpful for someone when they are working with a budget and need to factor prices in with the accessorie options. REP website is more tedious, not user friendly or helpful. They make it too much work trying to figure everything out piece by piece
Will keep the rack after quarantine? Or quit your gym membership? It is a lot of money you have invested
I will keep the rack and support my local gym since it’s only $10 a month.
@@MohammadDakkak thats very nice of you!
My rep power rack is almost here after ordering it over 2 months ago
Nice. I ordered the Elitefts rack
Was goons get the rogue I think monsterlite 3 ? It it just didn’t seem as heavy duty
Probably could've just gotten a two post plate storage extension for the added weight.
Damn I realized that these are equal comparisons in price but holy crap do you get more with the Rep.
Why would you buy a bolt down rack if you didn't want to bolt it down? Either way both are great racks
Great info... unfortunately I just got my Rogue RML but you mentioned Rep 4000 series attachments is compatible to Rouge RML, is that correct? I noticed the pricing is much affordable with Rep. Please let me know. Thanks!
I’d contact a rep representative to make sure brother!
Yep. Hopefully Rep goes international some day. They can barely keep up with the demand as it is so I wouldn't bet on it for this year tho.
Not gonna lie I'm a bit salty being that I pre-ordered April 27th and you got your stuff before me.
I feel that, but they’re working so hard to get everything packed and shipped. Come drive to Colorado and take it 👀🤣
They did say they weren't going to ship till everything was available and I got a bit more than a rack. Plus we how things are right now its understandable. Just wish I lived close enough to pick it up like you.
Hi, which rack would do you think is better between Rogue R3 Shorty and REP PR-4000? Thank you.
I’d say the rep pr 4000
www.repfitness.com/strength-equipment/power-racks/pr-4000-power-rack/#5ea8188521d6f
@@MohammadDakkak Yeah, I’ve made up my mind on PR4000. Just a waiting game until it sticks up again. If I wait any longer I might just get the PR5000 V2
That was what I did lol. Ended up going with the 5000 and I’m glad I did, I love it.
rep only for usa or can ship items even in europe?
I’d definitely agree you’re getting better value out of the rep racks 4000/ 5000 vs the rouge r-3 but my only issue is shipping is another $500 lol
I’d do what you did if i lived in the Colorado area for sure though. Smart move
Just got the same rack delivered 2 days ago but in red. But seeing your clear coat with red makes me wish I would of went with the clear coat. This rack is a tank and like you I am impressed. Great video, will help others see how the assembly looks like.
The red looks amazing as well though! And thank you!
Meanwhile in 2022 Rep prices have gone through the roof. Seems like the pr5000 in identical spec form is like $150 more than the RML3... what's up with that.
Shipping from the Rep store is double from anywhere else. Rogue shipping is easily half.
Did you add any front or rear stabilizers to the rack?
Also I missed it, what what is your depth?
41” no stabilizers
Can you please share what kinda flooring u have in ur garage gym
Horse stall mats
Yeah I've gotta come through soon hmu
Oh ya
Hahahaha! You stayed up all night refreshing the page I've been doing the same thing looking for plates. My entire set-up is complete but I can't find any bumper or iron plates anywhere FML!
Lmao it’s a struggle man
Rogue is absurd expensive. In Germany we have some small companies, which produce in Germany. They cost half compared to Rogue.
@Ewolf5150 made in usa is like one level up from made in China. Cheap tat with poor welds, difference is that Americans will pay more for the 'murica factor. Check out companies like atx or eleiko for well made things. Built in Europe. Made to last.
@@QuiescentCookie Europe is full of asylum seekers, so they may be built in Europe but [probably made by some syrian :D
@@QuiescentCookie Damn that eleiko stuff is expensive!
I just ordered my rack and bench from Rep. Can't wait to get the home gym up and running.
What gauge steel is the steel tubing?
Check the links in the description. Should have all that info!
I’m buying rep thank you
FYI bolt size on these rigs is total marking hype and overkill. A single grade 5 bolt at 5/8ths diameter has a tensile strength of nearly 30,000 pounds, and 72,000 for a 1 inch bolt. There are 16 one inch bolts on that rig with a combined 1.15 million pound feet of tensile strength.
How much you lift bro? :)
You were lucky to get any of these
Very lucky and very grateful 💯
I've been trying to get an echo bike for weeks 😭😭😭
Damn bro. Gotta support American workers.
At the end of the day you gotta buy what's best for you, life is too short to worry about where it came from
getstrongby40 This ☝️
This has possibly been said already, but you keep comparing the Rep PR5k v2 with an RML 3. That Rep rack is much more comparable to an RM 3 (Rogue Monster 3). RM solves all the problems you mention. First, the short depth, it's available in 30" depth (or just go with an RM4). Second, the hole diameter, RM use 1" hardware. Third, the RM is available in a sexy powdercoat just like that one. Of course... you pay the premium $$ for the Rogue name and awesome American construction. So.. you get what you pay for, but Rogue can definitely provide it... I use an American Barbell 48" rack at home, I guarantee that faka is heavier than either of those options :) :)
Good point
im not sure if you mentioned. 30 in depth?
41 inches
It''s very nice and looks like superb quality but it's too expensive... I bought mine years ago.. and It's a crappy brand Powertec squat however, I got it for 400 dollars shipped to Texas.. How can you beat that and so far ... it has not fallen apart whatsoever even though it's outside battling the elements...
This rack is a beasttt MashAllah
Thanks broooo alhamdullilah
I dont think you can compare this rack to the lite version of rogue, i have compared it to the rm-6 and its nice but not at the same level of rogue but congrats on ur purchase
munozjuantx RM-6 starts at $2000 though lol. But thanks loving it so far!
Actually comparable would be Rogue RM-4. Cost $1450. Just a slight more than Rep.
should have put one pin at the top left and the one pin in the bottom right
I also just ordered my rep rack I got lucky that they had the one I wanted in stock and after I purchased it it was out of stock also they are going very quick what I like about rep Fitness is that they are not price gouging like everyone else I believe they are an honest company that has the potential to surpass Rogue
If your going cheap Chinese go all the way cheap with titant fitness ... The X-3 cage is 3x3 11 gauge steel
I would have, however I’ve heard lots of mixed experiences with Titan. Some people have no problems with them, some don’t. Also Rep is a local company for me 👍🏻
I wish rep fitness or rogue fitness or even kabuki strength. OPEN a warehouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. We could really use one here in the island. 👍👍💪💪💪🤙🤙🤙.
That'd be awesome man.
you should mention from the start it only ships in USA. wasted 20 minutes trying to customize and order
Dang. Sold a RML3 for more than new. If that’s the case I’m going to try selling my R3 for what I paid for it.
Except rep is bolt together vs welded. It's not just USA made. It's hard welded. There's a difference.
Such a nice home gym!!!
Thank you alhamdullilah. Wouldn’t have done it without you.
Nice review! I got the Rougue RM-4 and it’s an awesome rack, but I would have went with the PR 5000 due to the price difference. I also live in New Mexico and would have saved on shipping. I did stay up late to get Rep benches as they were to come in stock. They didn’t refresh on the page even at like 1AM. I fell asleep and woke back up at like 330. The placed an order for an AB3100 and for a FB5000 with fat pad. I ordered the standard pad extra as I want a competition dimension set up. Got the FB5000 bench last week and it is freaking perfect. Sturdy as shit, and a better set up than the bench press at my old gym. I can’t wait for the AB3100 as I got both benches for about what I would have paid for the Rogue monster bench. Hoping to get some bumper plates from Rep soon
If you don't mind me asking. When did you order your AB3100? When did Rep say it would ship? I ordered the AB3100 on April 2nd and still waiting for it to ship with no idea from Rep when it will ship because they don't seem to respond to emails. Thx
I ordered both the AB3100, the FB5000 w/FP and the standard pad all early morning on April 27th. The standard pad came a week later. And the FB5000 came a couple weeks ago. I haven’t heard about the AB3100 yet. I did email them later that day that I had ordered them because I had not received a confirmation for the FB5000. They emailed me a couple of days later and told me I entered my email information incorrectly and they attached a receipt. They had estimated it would ship sometime this month but only a few days left to stick with that timeline. I’m sure they will send them out when they have them in stock. Could be early June
@@chriscota1635 Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully it ships soon. I received the bumper plates within 2 weeks of ordering which was great but everything else has been a challenge. I canceled my Rep rack a few weeks ago after it was further delayed and ordered a Rogue which I was just informed should ship next week. I understand the fitness companies are all very busy. Just wish Rep would communicate better
REP PR-5000 is the equivalent of the monster series. Pointless to compare it to the monster lite lineup..
Good point
MashaAllah TbarkAllah .. I am so proud of you .. you will be my teacher ..
Jzaka Allah Khiran brother