Thanks so much! I’ve been wrestling with a small tractor tire this afternoon. I bought a mini tire remover from Harbor Freight and it didn’t break the bead. So I’m looking for hacks and found yours. Thanks again!
One tip I've noticed on a few vids is to spray plent soapy water around the rim also. As you move the rim it pentatrates between the rubber and rim to help it slide over the bead much easier
If I have an old tyre, that I do not intend to use again, I do the following. First apply a solution of soapy water and then pour boiling water on the tyre. Makes breaking the bead a lot easier. Alternatively you can buy proprietary bead breaker fluid which softens the rubber and this works well. I tried the boiling water method when I had run out of the aforementioned fluid. I won't patronise readers by preaching the associated dangers of boiling water.
Hi, thanks for the tips. It's always good to hear other methods used, as it can help others out. Just a few thoughts... Please note: This is only if you intend to reuse the tyre: - Make sure the water temperature doesn't exceed the tyre operating temperature. - If you put any fluid on a tyre, it must not affect the tyre in any way. For instance, many oils can damage a tyre if left to soak. The reason for caution... I happened to be behind a van that had a blowout at about 60 mph. They violently swerved across several vehicle lanes, before managing to regain control and pull over. It could have been very nasty. The driver did a great job in regaining control. Luckily no one else was nearby to be involved. Poor driver\passengers must have @rapped themselves. Made me realise how important those black circles are.. Thanks for the great tips. 👍😃
Awesome, this is the best solution I have come across before paying the tyre shop. Just what I was looking for, someone slashed all my sidewalls so I just need to remove the tyres quick and dirty, tomorrow I will give the 2 piece wood option a go. Thankyou big time where ever you are!!!
Hi, a little lubricant would help a lot in breaking a bead and would make the job easier. But, you have to be careful which lubricant you use. Generally, anything 'oil based' is not good at all for rubber and can cause the rubber to fail. One of the many quotes from Google... "rubber in oil. It is a crosslinked polymeric material, and when all the bonds in the network are completely stretched due to a solvent that has diffused in, they cannot take any additional strain, and break very easily." Oil is also not good for synthetic rubber (made from crude oil). About 70% of rubber is currently synthetic. There are several lubricants that are safe to use with rubber (some synthetic oils??). But you would need to read the fine print, (and quite often, the fine print doesn't tell you...). One of the most common rubber lubricants is silicone grease, (which is often found in the plumbing section, because it is safe to use with rubber seals, o'rings, etc). I love the stuff, as it can be used on hoses; makes it easy to get them on and off (don't use too much though!). Electrical contacts, plastics, etc. Without fear of damage. The only trouble is, it only comes in small pots or tubes... But can last a long time, because you don't need much. So the good news is, a little lubricant would help a lot in breaking the bead of a tyre, and would make the job easier. But, you have to be careful which lubricant you use... Hope this helps. 😃
Try setting one end of a length of 4x4 (I use a 6 footer) on the tire by the bead (so it looks like a lollipop) then drive onto the other end of the 4x4 with your vehicle. Cut an angle on the end you drive onto if you have a vehicle with smaller tires. Also it's easier driving onto the 4x4 if you line it up to the vehicle's front tire during setup.
Another good method. It's great when you have several methods to choose from, as you can use whichever method suits best at the time (and the materials you have to hand). Thanks... 😃
That's the method I've been using. That's why I'm looking for something with a bit more finesse! I've not tried your lollipop alignment. I always lay the tip of the fence post on the tyre, tangentially to rim. So it's pushing a larger section of the bead in one go. That's maybe being a bit too gentle as it often takes a couple of attempts. Your straight in alignment feels a bit more cruel to the tyre but sometimes that might be necessary.
Try a crow bar with the straight end "wedge down" on the tire next to rim instead of 2x4. While this video is a great idea, I had tires with beads so old and stuck, I actually broke the 2x4 piece that rests on the tire. I was able to be much more precise with the crow bar resting on wood. Hope this helps.
Good tricks,I always use the jackall under a heavy truck and lay the tire on the ground less screwing around with straps and stuff,you can also run the tire over with another vehicle if it's heavy enough , only run over the rubber obviously.
Jack the car up. Put the rubber part of the tire under the rotor. Then lower the car so the rotor pushes the tire down and breaks the bead. (Note: keep the rotor and studs clear from the metal rim). U dont need leverage when u can just use the weight of the car to do the work. 🙂
Another great way to break the bead on a tyre (tire), as you may have already jacked up the vehicle to get the wheel off. Please note (in case of misunderstanding), the rotor can also be called a disc or disk, dependent on where you are in the world (also, please see the note at the very end... 😶). Couple of additional thoughts: - If you plan to reuse the tire. Make sure there are no sharp edges, or anything that can damage the tyre surface. If necessary, use a piece of wood or something similar to protect the tire. - Make sure the vehicle doesn't slip off the jack (when the angle of the vehicle changes). It's great when someone shares another method, so thank you... 😃. Notes: I had to delete a comment once, because someone got very bitter and twisted over the differences between US english and other types. I tried to lighten the situation by using the lyrics from the song 'You Say Tomato, I say Tomato' replacing it with 'You Say Fender, I say Bumper', but that didn't go down too well... Then other people started to join in! Hey ho... Just to clarify, dependant on where you are... Tyre can be tire. Brake rotor can be brake disc or disk. So, Let's 'not' call the whole thing off! Please everyone, it's meant to be tongue in cheek... Don't be offended... 😍
This is a video on helping people get a tire off of the bead of a rim. WHY are people so touchy now days about every little thing??? Man we need to get thicker skin!!!! You tried at least THUMBS UP for that bro
That’s a GREAT IDEA! I need to change the wheel bearing on my Lincoln. I also have four rims that need the tires removed. While I have the tire off my car I’m going to try your method. Only thing you didn’t mention (which is common sense to do) is install two lug nuts back onto the rotor to keep it secured to the hub/spindle otherwise it could go cock eyed etc
Reminds me of when I was used as child labour... Holding fence posts. The fear still rings in my ears now! As they began to swing the 10 pound sledge, I would hear those comforting words... "Don't worry... I won't hit you!" My arms, naturally grew a little longer... 😅
@@doitup oh dude. I was holding a T post while my father in law had a t post driver on top hitting it with a sledge. I said I know this is going to break I can just feel it. As soon as I thought that it came sliding down and almost cut my thumb off. Ive never seen an old man run that fast. 😂
Yep, a fence post sorts out the men from the boys! The strange thing about it though... Is that it brings back happy memories, (most probably because we survived!). My knuckles drag on the floor now though... 😁
Hi, it's certainly not a stupid question. If the clamps big enough for the tire, I don't see why not. You may need a couple of bits of wood, to spread the load (where the clamp meets the tyre). So there's no chance of any unseen damage? If you try it and it works, let us know how you get on? It's great having lots of different options, so you can try and fix things with what you have to hand... 😃
@@doitup Thanks kindly for your reply and I have never yet took a tire off but I am thinking I will try the next time that need comes up and will let you know how that worked out I have lots of huge heavy duty clamps. And yes putting some wood under it to expand the contact area sounds like a good idea
Hi, not sure on this, as I didn't have an issue with the tire slipping? I can only guess it's caused by the angle of the wood or jack on the tyre (and the size and shape of the tyre). The more parallel everything is, the less likely it is to slip (I guess). You could try increasing the surface area. A wider piece of wood should provide more friction and hopefully prevent it slipping? With the jack, the issue I had was that I couldn't keep the piece of wood on top of the jack in place, as the arm of the jack would tilt the wood when raised. I hope this helps in some way... 😃
Hi, sorry to hear you hurt yourself, it's not good when that happens... However, I wouldn't say the method was particularly dangerous. I would describe the method used at 3:00, as a bit like using a screwdriver... If you use too much force, or inadvertently end up positioning the screwdriver incorrectly. It could slip and you can end up hurting yourself. Unfortunately, these things can happen sometimes. I hope you feel better soon... 🙂
the first method worked for me. honestly i thot i came up with that method then i saw a couple vids on youtube then i was like, wat the? lol. i didnt exactly set it up like u. the wood on top would hang over/touch the rim and i wouldnt hav any wood on the ground under the tire
Hi, I could see the method would work if I had a different jack. On mine, the wood on the top would just slip, as the jack arm went up. Other jacks are sometimes shaped differently and you can place the wood without it slipping off... Having said that, the last method I used was so easy for me. I'm glad it worked for you. It meant you got the job done and didn't have to spend time looking for another way, like I did... 😄👍
Both those ways seemed dangerous an old bumper jack or jack-all and a truck bumper always worked for me lay the tire on the ground in the spot you would put the bumper jack then set the bumper jack onto the rubber of the tire and start to jack the truck I spray a little soapy water on the bead area and you would be better to remove the internal of the air valve as you compress the tire there is still air that needs to escape that was one of the problems with the floor jack. And I wouldn't use the pivot that could slip the other way and go flying upward....
Hi, I couldn't agree more. The first method I used was a right pain. Second method (two bits of wood), nice and simple. Scissor jack under a tow hitch, easy peasy. I think we over think these things sometimes. Thanks for the great tip... 😃
You could make the 2nd method even safer by cutting out a notch in the small piece where the long 2x4 could slide into for more stability and preventing left or right wobble.
Hi, it's just one of those spellings that's dependant on where you live... RUclips can be viewed nearly everywhere, so I often sit on the fence when it comes to spelling specifics. I did have someone who got very upset that I didn't use American spelling for everything, "RUclips is an american company!" they said... (it was founded by three people, an American, a Taiwanese and a German). Most things are global these days, but hey ho, there were no open eyes to that tired argument. 😄 I tried to lighten the situation with amended lyrics to the song 'You Say Tomato, I say Tomato' to 'you say fender, I say bumper', but that went down like a lead balloon... So... Tire is the preferred spelling in the U.S. and Canada. Tyre is preferred in most varieties of English outside North America. Plus then there's the meaning, (top results in Google)... Tyre - 'a rubber covering, typically inflated or surrounding an inflated inner tube, placed round a wheel to form a soft contact with the road'. Tire - 'to begin to feel as if you have no energy and want to rest or go to sleep'. I sense there could be another argument here... 🥰. We don't need arguments, life is way too short! I Hope you find this useful and the in's and out's of the English language somewhat interesting and sometimes bizarre... 😃
Hi, if you're in America or Canada then 'tire' will be everywhere. I'm in the UK. In a previous job I had to contact a US company on a regular basis. I would always have problems with the different spellings, like color and colour, apologize and apologise, etc. I often couldn't remember which spelling I should be using, dependant on the country the person lived in. With RUclips I try and keep everyone happy by sometimes using a mixture of both, plus it may help search engines (dependant on the country the search originated from). All of this may add to confusion and can make life a whole lot more complicated than it needs to be... 😄
none of that will work like shown in this video with a wheel that the tires been mounted on for many years for both methods all that will happen is you block of wood will slide off as the outside carcass collapses but it will never break the bead. out of the two main methods shown the floor jack method will work best if done correctly. i built a bead breaking jig out of metal but you can use wood if it right, first the 2 pieces of 4x4 have got to be mechanically fastened together in the "L" shape with metal brackets so they cant separate, next the end of the piece of 2x4 to do the bead breaking has to be cut at a 45 degree angle so it has an end that can actually wedge in between the tire and the edge of the rim but first the 2x4 needs to be mechanically fastened to the underside at the end of the 4x4 lever with a heavy door hinge then before you strap the 4x4 lever to your jack get a small piece of wood that will fit down inside the jack seat but will stick up just above the sides of the seat them place the wheel on the jack with the rim on the small piece then you HAVE to stick something under the opposite side of the wheel so it is level on the jack, place angled cut of the 2x4 so the tip is on the tire but right at the edge of the rim, strap down the upper 4x4 by making sure you go around the 4x4 1 time then ratchet it as tight as possible, the goal is for the angled cut 2x4 to start wedging in between the tire and rim towards the rim, you might have to keep tapping with a small sledge on the backside of the 4x4 in front of the jack to keep it wedging towards the rim and if the tires been mounted for a really long time you'll probably have to work one side down the spin the tire so you can do the same to the other side, the flip tire and do it all again but because of the need for the pieces to be sturdily connected you can see why i just welded up something out of steel pipe and flat steel, and the backing plate from an old curved brake pad that wedges perfect between tire and rim. i use this method all the time, in fact will probably be using it again an an hour or so. something people never think of, a floor is just half of a hydraulic press, as soon as you strap or chain something to it you are essentially making it a press, i use variants of the same method to straighten or put bends big pieces of steel, i use the same principal to split wood for the wood stove, they can do more then just jack up cars.....
Hi, thanks for your reply. I can't completely agree with you, as the video shows a tire that had been mounted for years. The second method easily pushed the tire off the rim... The first method would easily do it with a different shaped jack, or with some modifications. However, a tool like you've manufactured and described above will always do a better job, (designed for the purpose), rather than just using a couple of scraps of wood like I did. Plus every so often, you're gonna get a difficult one (if you do it on a regular basis). I love your statement on "a floor is just half of a hydraulic press". I couldn't agree with you more on that one... Thanks for the info, it going to help anyone who wants to build a specific tool for the job... 😃
Hi, if you watch the video at ruclips.net/video/y-6U2x7_d3s/видео.html it does say "Duh..! I didn't film my first attempt..." I thought I had pressed the record button, but must have missed it. It was too late then... 😓
Hi, have a look at the video at 2:16 and at 2:37 where you can see the tyre is still on the rim. In trying out the 'two pieces of wood method' for the first time, I wasn't expecting to break the bead of the tyre so easily (after my failed attempt using the jack) and I broke the bead of the tyre, before I had a chance to video it..! At 2:46 I make the statement "Duh..! I didn't film my first attempt..." Hope this explains it... 😀
Hi, yes. I didn't have the camera set to record when I first broke the bead. by that time it was too late and I missed it! The video explains this in the text. See the video at: ruclips.net/video/y-6U2x7_d3s/видео.html. 😃
Hi, thanks for the reply. Taking the valve core out would have certainly helped (rather than just letting the air out). This wheel had a perished valve stem, so wasn't holding any air. The issue I had was with the type of jack. The only place I could put the wooden pivot was on the arm of the jack. Every time the jack arm went up, the pivot would slide off! Cursed a few times... The second method was so easy. I should have tried it first! 😅
Hi, this is what the video is all about. Method number 1 is not very easy to do, it can easily fail, (plus you have to keep your fingers out the way). The 2nd method is far easier to use. The wood can still slip off though... But, method number 2 is no different to using a screwdriver to insert a screw, (which can also slip off when being used)... 😀👍
You are basically destroying $50-$200 the tire to save $20. Do not be fool to follow youtube videos and smash thread which has to stay intact while breaking the bead. You can only do it yourself if you are trained and you have right tools. Please save yourself a time and frustration trying to follow misleading youtube videos. If you disagree go ahead and do it yourself. RUclipsbe will not reimburse or help you to recover from mistakes in doing DIY or cover cost of damages to your property or bdoy. I told you honestly and choice is yours.
Hi, I disagree... If someone wishes to attempt to repair something they own, then that is their choice. They have a right to repair. There are many ways to carry out a task. Some are better than others, (which is the actual point of this video). A tire is designed to be robust. To withstand all the forces and impacts it's going to endure during its lifetime. If the tire was to get damaged whilst breaking the bead, then someone is not taking too much care, (using sharp objects, undue force, or not spreading the load). Or... The tire has deteriorated past its design life and should never have been on the vehicle in the first place. What I would agree with, is that if someone is unsure of their abilities, then take it to a professional.
Hi, thanks for your comment. I was surprised how easy it was, (after struggling with the first method). The key is: 1. Having something heavy to put the end of the wood under (to lever against). 2. Having a long bit of wood for the leverage. 3. Putting the fulcrum (second bit of wood), as far away from your hands as you can (from where you push down on the lever). It was a piece of cake! Sometimes I think we over complicate things, when there is a much easier way of doing it! Hope this helps... 😃
Hi, I would disagree. I found breaking the bead was straightforward with a couple of bits of wood and some leverage, (second half of the video). Great if you want to replace the valve stem, or an inner tube. However, getting the tire completely off the rim is a different matter! A tire machine makes it look easy... 😃👍
Hi, it's not too bad as long as you let the air out and keep your fingers well out the way. Much quicker, safer and easier to use two bits of wood as a lever, as in the 2nd method at: 2:11... 😄👍
Hi, thanks for the info. I could see the first method was going to work, (if I had a slightly different shaped jack). The wood was intent on slipping all the time and I couldn't get it to stay put! So I decided to try the second method to save time. It was so quick and easy, no mucking around with straps, etc. Job done! 👍
Hi, the spelling is correct! It just depends on where you live... In the text below the video, I tried to use both tyre and tire. You won't believe how much aggravation using different spellings can cause, (when in reality, it doesn't really matter). I tried a humorous reply once, using the song 'Let's Call the Whole Thing Off' by changing the lyrics. you say fender, we say bumper... But that went down like a lead balloon! Most differences appear to be down to using different letters, or shortening the original word. Apparently, Webster's 'An American Dictionary of the English Language' 1828 was responsible for many of the changes. Nothing in life is ever simple... Words can be a pleasure, dangerous, paint a picture, be misinterpreted, loved and abused. But that's another story... Please don't call the whole thing off... 😄👍
Hi, it's just one of those spellings that's dependant on where you live... RUclips can be viewed nearly everywhere, so I often sit on the fence when it comes to spelling specifics. Plus it helps in search results dependant on where you live. So... Tire is the preferred spelling in the U.S. and Canada. Tyre is preferred in most varieties of English outside North America. Plus then there's the meaning... Top results from Google (Europe): Tyre - 'a rubber covering, typically inflated or surrounding an inflated inner tube, placed round a wheel to form a soft contact with the road'. Tire - 'to begin to feel as if you have no energy and want to rest or go to sleep'. I did have someone who got very upset that I didn't use American spelling for everything, "RUclips is an american company!" they said... (it was founded by three people, an American, a Taiwanese and a German). Most things are global these days, but hey ho... 😄 I tried to lighten the situation with amended lyrics to the song 'You Say Tomato, I say Tomato' to 'you say fender, I say bumper', but that went down like a lead balloon... I Hope you find this useful info, and the in's and out's of the English language somewhat interesting and sometimes bizarre... 😃
Hi, the spelling is correct! It just depends on where you live... In the text below the video, I tried to use both tyre and tire. You won't believe how much aggravation using different spellings can cause, (when in reality, it doesn't really matter). I tried a humorous reply once, using the song 'Let's Call the Whole Thing Off' by changing the lyrics. you say fender, we say bumper... But that went down like a lead balloon! Most differences appear to be down to using different letters, or shortening the original word. Apparently, Webster's 'An American Dictionary of the English Language' in 1828 was responsible for promoting many of the changes between American English and the original UK english, (It was probably a rebellious political gesture). Nothing in life is ever simple... Words can be a pleasure, dangerous, paint a picture, be misinterpreted, loved and abused. But that's another story... Please don't call the whole thing off... 😄👍
The American way of spelling most things is different to everywhere else and most often the incorrect way.in Australia we spell it the correct way which is "Tyre".just like how Americans say "color" "Aluminum" or "carmel" when it's actually "colour" "Aluminium" and "Caramel".
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Thanks so much! I’ve been wrestling with a small tractor tire this afternoon. I bought a mini tire remover from Harbor Freight and it didn’t break the bead. So I’m looking for hacks and found yours. Thanks again!
Hi, no problem... I'm glad you found it useful. Hope you get it fixed soon... 😃
One tip I've noticed on a few vids is to spray plent soapy water around the rim also. As you move the rim it pentatrates between the rubber and rim to help it slide over the bead much easier
Great tip! It would make it a lot easier, especially if you use a spray bottle. Thank you... 😃
#3 East way take it to the tire shop
Hi, the simplest and easiest answer is the one often missed... 😀👍
They want 200 to swap my tires
My old truck has lock-ring wheels. Tire shops won't touch them, unfortunately
Awesome! Thanks for the lesson.
Hi, no problem. Thanks for letting me know it helped you out... 😀
If I have an old tyre, that I do not intend to use again, I do the following. First apply a solution of soapy water and then pour boiling water on the tyre. Makes breaking the bead a lot easier. Alternatively you can buy proprietary bead breaker fluid which softens the rubber and this works well. I tried the boiling water method when I had run out of the aforementioned fluid. I won't patronise readers by preaching the associated dangers of boiling water.
Hi, thanks for the tips. It's always good to hear other methods used, as it can help others out. Just a few thoughts... Please note: This is only if you intend to reuse the tyre:
- Make sure the water temperature doesn't exceed the tyre operating temperature.
- If you put any fluid on a tyre, it must not affect the tyre in any way. For instance, many oils can damage a tyre if left to soak.
The reason for caution... I happened to be behind a van that had a blowout at about 60 mph. They violently swerved across several vehicle lanes, before managing to regain control and pull over. It could have been very nasty. The driver did a great job in regaining control. Luckily no one else was nearby to be involved. Poor driver\passengers must have @rapped themselves. Made me realise how important those black circles are.. Thanks for the great tips. 👍😃
Thank you for sharing mate. The last method was so simple. Cheers
Glad it helped 😀
Awesome, this is the best solution I have come across before paying the tyre shop. Just what I was looking for, someone slashed all my sidewalls so I just need to remove the tyres quick and dirty, tomorrow I will give the 2 piece wood option a go. Thankyou big time where ever you are!!!
Hi, thanks for your comments, it's much appreciated... Hope you get your tyres fixed soon. 😀👍
Lever job , thanks 👍🏻🏴
Hi, two bits of wood and a bit of leverage, makes for an easy job... 😊
Use option number 2 using the lip of my conrete pourch, worked great! Thank you!
Hey that's great. Glad it worked for you... 😃
Its all about leverage. Physics.
Leverage comes in handy for many things.
Like borrowing to invest... I'll stick with the physics!
Pour a little oil and diesel or gas around the bead. Tap it with a heavy hammer. Easy. Great ideas.
Hi, a little lubricant would help a lot in breaking a bead and would make the job easier. But, you have to be careful which lubricant you use. Generally, anything 'oil based' is not good at all for rubber and can cause the rubber to fail. One of the many quotes from Google... "rubber in oil. It is a crosslinked polymeric material, and when all the bonds in the network are completely stretched due to a solvent that has diffused in, they cannot take any additional strain, and break very easily." Oil is also not good for synthetic rubber (made from crude oil). About 70% of rubber is currently synthetic.
There are several lubricants that are safe to use with rubber (some synthetic oils??). But you would need to read the fine print, (and quite often, the fine print doesn't tell you...). One of the most common rubber lubricants is silicone grease, (which is often found in the plumbing section, because it is safe to use with rubber seals, o'rings, etc). I love the stuff, as it can be used on hoses; makes it easy to get them on and off (don't use too much though!). Electrical contacts, plastics, etc. Without fear of damage. The only trouble is, it only comes in small pots or tubes... But can last a long time, because you don't need much.
So the good news is, a little lubricant would help a lot in breaking the bead of a tyre, and would make the job easier. But, you have to be careful which lubricant you use... Hope this helps. 😃
Second method work great thanks.
Hi, glad it helped. I was surprised how easy it was, after trying the trolley jack method! Thanks for letting me know... 😃
Try setting one end of a length of 4x4 (I use a 6 footer) on the tire by the bead (so it looks like a lollipop) then drive onto the other end of the 4x4 with your vehicle. Cut an angle on the end you drive onto if you have a vehicle with smaller tires. Also it's easier driving onto the 4x4 if you line it up to the vehicle's front tire during setup.
Another good method. It's great when you have several methods to choose from, as you can use whichever method suits best at the time (and the materials you have to hand). Thanks... 😃
That's the method I've been using. That's why I'm looking for something with a bit more finesse!
I've not tried your lollipop alignment. I always lay the tip of the fence post on the tyre, tangentially to rim. So it's pushing a larger section of the bead in one go. That's maybe being a bit too gentle as it often takes a couple of attempts. Your straight in alignment feels a bit more cruel to the tyre but sometimes that might be necessary.
Merci!
Hi, no problem. Glad it helped you out in some way. Merci beaucoup for letting me know... 😃
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Thanks 👍
This was really helpful thanks
Hi, that's great. Thanks for letting me know... 😃
I like your video
Thanks, much appreciated... 😀
Wow! Very smart
Hi, I wouldn't call it smart. As I tried the hard way, several times first! 😄
I could only imagine what you would be capable of when Box Steel Tubing is invented. MarkMannM2
Ha, great. It would give me loads more power. Tractor tires (tyres) here we come... 😀👍
Try a crow bar with the straight end "wedge down" on the tire next to rim instead of 2x4. While this video is a great idea, I had tires with beads so old and stuck, I actually broke the 2x4 piece that rests on the tire. I was able to be much more precise with the crow bar resting on wood. Hope this helps.
It certainly does, another great method that people can use. Thanks for sharing... 😀
Good tricks,I always use the jackall under a heavy truck and lay the tire on the ground less screwing around with straps and stuff,you can also run the tire over with another vehicle if it's heavy enough , only run over the rubber obviously.
It's great to know of lots of different methods, as you can choose the method that suits you best. 👍
Jack the car up. Put the rubber part of the tire under the rotor. Then lower the car so the rotor pushes the tire down and breaks the bead. (Note: keep the rotor and studs clear from the metal rim).
U dont need leverage when u can just use the weight of the car to do the work. 🙂
Another great way to break the bead on a tyre (tire), as you may have already jacked up the vehicle to get the wheel off. Please note (in case of misunderstanding), the rotor can also be called a disc or disk, dependent on where you are in the world (also, please see the note at the very end... 😶).
Couple of additional thoughts:
- If you plan to reuse the tire. Make sure there are no sharp edges, or anything that can damage the tyre surface. If necessary, use a piece of wood or something similar to protect the tire.
- Make sure the vehicle doesn't slip off the jack (when the angle of the vehicle changes).
It's great when someone shares another method, so thank you... 😃.
Notes: I had to delete a comment once, because someone got very bitter and twisted over the differences between US english and other types. I tried to lighten the situation by using the lyrics from the song 'You Say Tomato, I say Tomato' replacing it with 'You Say Fender, I say Bumper', but that didn't go down too well... Then other people started to join in! Hey ho...
Just to clarify, dependant on where you are... Tyre can be tire. Brake rotor can be brake disc or disk. So, Let's 'not' call the whole thing off! Please everyone, it's meant to be tongue in cheek... Don't be offended... 😍
This is a video on helping people get a tire off of the bead of a rim. WHY are people so touchy now days about every little thing??? Man we need to get thicker skin!!!! You tried at least THUMBS UP for that bro
That’s a GREAT IDEA! I need to change the wheel bearing on my Lincoln. I also have four rims that need the tires removed. While I have the tire off my car I’m going to try your method. Only thing you didn’t mention (which is common sense to do) is install two lug nuts back onto the rotor to keep it secured to the hub/spindle otherwise it could go cock eyed etc
Tried that. Doesn't work.
physics 101..great video..B1
Thank you 👍
My days of swinging a sledge into a wedge are over!!!! Best shape I’ve ever been in though 🤔
Reminds me of when I was used as child labour... Holding fence posts. The fear still rings in my ears now! As they began to swing the 10 pound sledge, I would hear those comforting words... "Don't worry... I won't hit you!" My arms, naturally grew a little longer... 😅
@@doitup oh dude. I was holding a T post while my father in law had a t post driver on top hitting it with a sledge. I said I know this is going to break I can just feel it. As soon as I thought that it came sliding down and almost cut my thumb off. Ive never seen an old man run that fast. 😂
@@doitup I’ve also drove so many post with a 2x4 and a sledge that I had to peel the sledge off of my hands because of all the blood.
Yep, a fence post sorts out the men from the boys! The strange thing about it though... Is that it brings back happy memories, (most probably because we survived!). My knuckles drag on the floor now though... 😁
Thanks I can see what not to try with this video
Hi, the first method can work, but using two pieces of wood was just so easy... 😃
Thank you Good idea
No problem...
This may be a stupid question but could not one use a heavy duty carpenters clamp and squeeze the tire together?
Hi, it's certainly not a stupid question. If the clamps big enough for the tire, I don't see why not. You may need a couple of bits of wood, to spread the load (where the clamp meets the tyre). So there's no chance of any unseen damage? If you try it and it works, let us know how you get on? It's great having lots of different options, so you can try and fix things with what you have to hand... 😃
@@doitup Thanks kindly for your reply and I have never yet took a tire off but I am thinking I will try the next time that need comes up and will let you know how that worked out I have lots of huge heavy duty clamps. And yes putting some wood under it to expand the contact area sounds like a good idea
Nice
Hi, thankyou... 😃
1 problem how do you keep the tire from slipping
Hi, not sure on this, as I didn't have an issue with the tire slipping? I can only guess it's caused by the angle of the wood or jack on the tyre (and the size and shape of the tyre). The more parallel everything is, the less likely it is to slip (I guess). You could try increasing the surface area. A wider piece of wood should provide more friction and hopefully prevent it slipping? With the jack, the issue I had was that I couldn't keep the piece of wood on top of the jack in place, as the arm of the jack would tilt the wood when raised. I hope this helps in some way... 😃
The method shown at 3:00 is dangerous. The 2 x 4 twisted on me while i was holding it and i ended up with a bone fracture in my palm.
Hi, sorry to hear you hurt yourself, it's not good when that happens... However, I wouldn't say the method was particularly dangerous. I would describe the method used at 3:00, as a bit like using a screwdriver... If you use too much force, or inadvertently end up positioning the screwdriver incorrectly. It could slip and you can end up hurting yourself. Unfortunately, these things can happen sometimes. I hope you feel better soon... 🙂
the first method worked for me. honestly i thot i came up with that method then i saw a couple vids on youtube then i was like, wat the? lol. i didnt exactly set it up like u. the wood on top would hang over/touch the rim and i wouldnt hav any wood on the ground under the tire
Hi, I could see the method would work if I had a different jack. On mine, the wood on the top would just slip, as the jack arm went up. Other jacks are sometimes shaped differently and you can place the wood without it slipping off... Having said that, the last method I used was so easy for me. I'm glad it worked for you. It meant you got the job done and didn't have to spend time looking for another way, like I did... 😄👍
Both those ways seemed dangerous an old bumper jack or jack-all and a truck bumper always worked for me lay the tire on the ground in the spot you would put the bumper jack then set the bumper jack onto the rubber of the tire and start to jack the truck I spray a little soapy water on the bead area and you would be better to remove the internal of the air valve as you compress the tire there is still air that needs to escape that was one of the problems with the floor jack. And I wouldn't use the pivot that could slip the other way and go flying upward....
Hi, thanks for your response. It's always good to hear about other methods. Thanks for sharing... 😃
Way too complicated. I use a scissor jack under the trailer hitch on my truck to break the tire beads. Piece of cake.
Hi, I couldn't agree more. The first method I used was a right pain. Second method (two bits of wood), nice and simple. Scissor jack under a tow hitch, easy peasy. I think we over think these things sometimes. Thanks for the great tip... 😃
You could make the 2nd method even safer by cutting out a notch in the small piece where the long 2x4 could slide into for more stability and preventing left or right wobble.
Yep, that's a good idea... 👍
Was thinking the same
notch may make a weak point. instead add another piece with notch. great looking out
I use a screw vice
Hi, thanks for the tip. it's always great to hear what other people have used... 😃
dude, once the bead pops thats it, you dont have to go around, just push it with hands or step on it
Hi, yes. As it was so easy with a couple of bits of wood, you kind of get carried away with it... 😀
Who is Tyre?
Hi, it's just one of those spellings that's dependant on where you live...
RUclips can be viewed nearly everywhere, so I often sit on the fence when it comes to spelling specifics. I did have someone who got very upset that I didn't use American spelling for everything, "RUclips is an american company!" they said... (it was founded by three people, an American, a Taiwanese and a German). Most things are global these days, but hey ho, there were no open eyes to that tired argument. 😄 I tried to lighten the situation with amended lyrics to the song 'You Say Tomato, I say Tomato' to 'you say fender, I say bumper', but that went down like a lead balloon...
So... Tire is the preferred spelling in the U.S. and Canada. Tyre is preferred in most varieties of English outside North America. Plus then there's the meaning, (top results in Google)...
Tyre - 'a rubber covering, typically inflated or surrounding an inflated inner tube, placed round a wheel to form a soft contact with the road'.
Tire - 'to begin to feel as if you have no energy and want to rest or go to sleep'.
I sense there could be another argument here... 🥰.
We don't need arguments, life is way too short! I Hope you find this useful and the in's and out's of the English language somewhat interesting and sometimes bizarre... 😃
@@doitup never seen tire spelt that way😬 I'm in North America - Tyre is a man's name here. Tired is when your sleepy-lack energy.😉
Hi, if you're in America or Canada then 'tire' will be everywhere. I'm in the UK. In a previous job I had to contact a US company on a regular basis. I would always have problems with the different spellings, like color and colour, apologize and apologise, etc. I often couldn't remember which spelling I should be using, dependant on the country the person lived in. With RUclips I try and keep everyone happy by sometimes using a mixture of both, plus it may help search engines (dependant on the country the search originated from). All of this may add to confusion and can make life a whole lot more complicated than it needs to be... 😄
cut out all the garbage before 2:50, after 2:50 i have some faith that would work
Yep, before 2:50 it was a struggle (though others have had success). After 2:50, it was just so quick and easy... 😃
none of that will work like shown in this video with a wheel that the tires been mounted on for many years for both methods all that will happen is you block of wood will slide off as the outside carcass collapses but it will never break the bead. out of the two main methods shown the floor jack method will work best if done correctly. i built a bead breaking jig out of metal but you can use wood if it right, first the 2 pieces of 4x4 have got to be mechanically fastened together in the "L" shape with metal brackets so they cant separate, next the end of the piece of 2x4 to do the bead breaking has to be cut at a 45 degree angle so it has an end that can actually wedge in between the tire and the edge of the rim but first the 2x4 needs to be mechanically fastened to the underside at the end of the 4x4 lever with a heavy door hinge then before you strap the 4x4 lever to your jack get a small piece of wood that will fit down inside the jack seat but will stick up just above the sides of the seat them place the wheel on the jack with the rim on the small piece then you HAVE to stick something under the opposite side of the wheel so it is level on the jack, place angled cut of the 2x4 so the tip is on the tire but right at the edge of the rim, strap down the upper 4x4 by making sure you go around the 4x4 1 time then ratchet it as tight as possible, the goal is for the angled cut 2x4 to start wedging in between the tire and rim towards the rim, you might have to keep tapping with a small sledge on the backside of the 4x4 in front of the jack to keep it wedging towards the rim and if the tires been mounted for a really long time you'll probably have to work one side down the spin the tire so you can do the same to the other side, the flip tire and do it all again but because of the need for the pieces to be sturdily connected you can see why i just welded up something out of steel pipe and flat steel, and the backing plate from an old curved brake pad that wedges perfect between tire and rim. i use this method all the time, in fact will probably be using it again an an hour or so. something people never think of, a floor is just half of a hydraulic press, as soon as you strap or chain something to it you are essentially making it a press, i use variants of the same method to straighten or put bends big pieces of steel, i use the same principal to split wood for the wood stove, they can do more then just jack up cars.....
Hi, thanks for your reply. I can't completely agree with you, as the video shows a tire that had been mounted for years. The second method easily pushed the tire off the rim... The first method would easily do it with a different shaped jack, or with some modifications. However, a tool like you've manufactured and described above will always do a better job, (designed for the purpose), rather than just using a couple of scraps of wood like I did. Plus every so often, you're gonna get a difficult one (if you do it on a regular basis). I love your statement on "a floor is just half of a hydraulic press". I couldn't agree with you more on that one... Thanks for the info, it going to help anyone who wants to build a specific tool for the job... 😃
The scond method out required a 3000 lb person in the bench then you show it working with the bead already broke next to wair you break it 😂
Hi, if you watch the video at ruclips.net/video/y-6U2x7_d3s/видео.html it does say "Duh..! I didn't film my first attempt..." I thought I had pressed the record button, but must have missed it. It was too late then... 😓
It was so easy because it was already broke off the rim
Hi, have a look at the video at 2:16 and at 2:37 where you can see the tyre is still on the rim. In trying out the 'two pieces of wood method' for the first time, I wasn't expecting to break the bead of the tyre so easily (after my failed attempt using the jack) and I broke the bead of the tyre, before I had a chance to video it..! At 2:46 I make the statement "Duh..! I didn't film my first attempt..." Hope this explains it... 😀
The bead was already broken on second
Hi, yes. I didn't have the camera set to record when I first broke the bead. by that time it was too late and I missed it! The video explains this in the text. See the video at: ruclips.net/video/y-6U2x7_d3s/видео.html. 😃
"A" for effort.
If you at first don't succeed... 😅
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Thanks, much appreciated... 😃
Maybe if you take the valve core out it would would work better ! Lol
Hi, thanks for the reply. Taking the valve core out would have certainly helped (rather than just letting the air out). This wheel had a perished valve stem, so wasn't holding any air. The issue I had was with the type of jack. The only place I could put the wooden pivot was on the arm of the jack. Every time the jack arm went up, the pivot would slide off! Cursed a few times... The second method was so easy. I should have tried it first! 😅
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Thanks... 😄
This looks very dangerous if that block flies out and hits you in the head not very safe at all
Hi, this is what the video is all about. Method number 1 is not very easy to do, it can easily fail, (plus you have to keep your fingers out the way). The 2nd method is far easier to use. The wood can still slip off though... But, method number 2 is no different to using a screwdriver to insert a screw, (which can also slip off when being used)... 😀👍
You are basically destroying $50-$200 the tire to save $20. Do not be fool to follow youtube videos and smash thread which has to stay intact while breaking the bead. You can only do it yourself if you are trained and you have right tools. Please save yourself a time and frustration trying to follow misleading youtube videos. If you disagree go ahead and do it yourself. RUclipsbe will not reimburse or help you to recover from mistakes in doing DIY or cover cost of damages to your property or bdoy. I told you honestly and choice is yours.
Hi, I disagree... If someone wishes to attempt to repair something they own, then that is their choice. They have a right to repair. There are many ways to carry out a task. Some are better than others, (which is the actual point of this video). A tire is designed to be robust. To withstand all the forces and impacts it's going to endure during its lifetime. If the tire was to get damaged whilst breaking the bead, then someone is not taking too much care, (using sharp objects, undue force, or not spreading the load). Or... The tire has deteriorated past its design life and should never have been on the vehicle in the first place. What I would agree with, is that if someone is unsure of their abilities, then take it to a professional.
Looks too easy. Would have love to see the first try.
Hi, thanks for your comment. I was surprised how easy it was, (after struggling with the first method). The key is:
1. Having something heavy to put the end of the wood under (to lever against).
2. Having a long bit of wood for the leverage.
3. Putting the fulcrum (second bit of wood), as far away from your hands as you can (from where you push down on the lever).
It was a piece of cake! Sometimes I think we over complicate things, when there is a much easier way of doing it! Hope this helps... 😃
If at first you don't succeed ............
Definitely, there's more than one way to peel an orange, shoe a horse, cook an egg, bake a cake, make a bed, skin a...
without a tire machine there is no easy way to break a bead
Hi, I would disagree. I found breaking the bead was straightforward with a couple of bits of wood and some leverage, (second half of the video). Great if you want to replace the valve stem, or an inner tube. However, getting the tire completely off the rim is a different matter! A tire machine makes it look easy... 😃👍
I tried these and my house blew up. 😒
Just something else to fix... 😁
No no no you’re going to get me hurt. Stop it!
Hi, it's not too bad as long as you let the air out and keep your fingers well out the way. Much quicker, safer and easier to use two bits of wood as a lever, as in the 2nd method at: 2:11... 😄👍
Faill
Yep, but succeeded in the end... 😀
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Thanks 😀
first method works watch here: ruclips.net/video/exPx1aVkAF4/видео.html
second method: piece of cake LOL
Hi, thanks for the info. I could see the first method was going to work, (if I had a slightly different shaped jack). The wood was intent on slipping all the time and I couldn't get it to stay put! So I decided to try the second method to save time. It was so quick and easy, no mucking around with straps, etc. Job done! 👍
Bakwas
Yep, but succeeded in the end... 😀
What’s a tyre? 😂
Hi, the spelling is correct! It just depends on where you live... In the text below the video, I tried to use both tyre and tire. You won't believe how much aggravation using different spellings can cause, (when in reality, it doesn't really matter). I tried a humorous reply once, using the song 'Let's Call the Whole Thing Off' by changing the lyrics. you say fender, we say bumper... But that went down like a lead balloon!
Most differences appear to be down to using different letters, or shortening the original word. Apparently, Webster's 'An American Dictionary of the English Language' 1828 was responsible for many of the changes. Nothing in life is ever simple... Words can be a pleasure, dangerous, paint a picture, be misinterpreted, loved and abused. But that's another story... Please don't call the whole thing off... 😄👍
tire is tire not tyre
Hi, it's just one of those spellings that's dependant on where you live... RUclips can be viewed nearly everywhere, so I often sit on the fence when it comes to spelling specifics. Plus it helps in search results dependant on where you live.
So... Tire is the preferred spelling in the U.S. and Canada. Tyre is preferred in most varieties of English outside North America. Plus then there's the meaning... Top results from Google (Europe):
Tyre - 'a rubber covering, typically inflated or surrounding an inflated inner tube, placed round a wheel to form a soft contact with the road'.
Tire - 'to begin to feel as if you have no energy and want to rest or go to sleep'.
I did have someone who got very upset that I didn't use American spelling for everything, "RUclips is an american company!" they said... (it was founded by three people, an American, a Taiwanese and a German). Most things are global these days, but hey ho... 😄 I tried to lighten the situation with amended lyrics to the song 'You Say Tomato, I say Tomato' to 'you say fender, I say bumper', but that went down like a lead balloon...
I Hope you find this useful info, and the in's and out's of the English language somewhat interesting and sometimes bizarre... 😃
Isn’t tyre spelled TIRE? 🛞
Hi, the spelling is correct! It just depends on where you live... In the text below the video, I tried to use both tyre and tire. You won't believe how much aggravation using different spellings can cause, (when in reality, it doesn't really matter). I tried a humorous reply once, using the song 'Let's Call the Whole Thing Off' by changing the lyrics. you say fender, we say bumper... But that went down like a lead balloon!
Most differences appear to be down to using different letters, or shortening the original word. Apparently, Webster's 'An American Dictionary of the English Language' in 1828 was responsible for promoting many of the changes between American English and the original UK english, (It was probably a rebellious political gesture). Nothing in life is ever simple... Words can be a pleasure, dangerous, paint a picture, be misinterpreted, loved and abused. But that's another story... Please don't call the whole thing off... 😄👍
The American way of spelling most things is different to everywhere else and most often the incorrect way.in Australia we spell it the correct way which is "Tyre".just like how Americans say "color" "Aluminum" or "carmel" when it's actually "colour" "Aluminium" and "Caramel".
I bet you have a lot of injuries
Not yet luckily... Just create the issues and avoid them at the last moment... 😄
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Yep, using two bits of wood as a lever was so much easier... 😃