You could actually remove the front mesh+dust filter by sticking you hand under the front panel and basically pushing the mesh out towards you, so you don't have to worry about the front I/O cables
he used a mix of metric and retarded (imperial). Lately im seeing more american youtubers using metric system, they are starting to notice the superiority of metric system haha
Im getting this case and for me, the tinted glass is PERFECT. Gives it a sleek look and for my parts is perfect and if I want more lighting to make it stand out inside ill just buy 2 rgb fans to the front
Just wondering. Can u actually fit a fan in front of the front case? Cos im I have a 1080 strix and it's too long. And I dont want to mount the radiator on top
I currently own Fractal's Define R5 (Windowed) and love it! But cheaper, smaller looking, tempered glass cases are really annoying (In a good way?) being as though I spent $120 on my case......Edit: Ha! I just realized I answered my own question. 😅 I was trying to decide between: Current Case: ($120) 22.69 lbs. Acrylic, Sound Dampening Foam, Fan Controller, Removable ODD Drive Bay. NZXT's S340 Elite ($100) 17.92 lbs. Glass, Front Panel HDMI. Fractal's Define C TG ($95) 14.99.lbs Glass. Phanteks Eclipse P400S ($80). 15.40 lbs. Glass, Sound Dampening Foam, Magnetic Dust Filters, Fan Controller, RGB LED Controller. *WINNER!* I wanted a new case cause I'll be getting an HTC Vive pretty soon and plan on showing it off to friends/family and didn't want to lug this heavy ass case around. The S340 Elite does have a front panel HDMI port which is perfect for connectivity but the Eclipse has more features geared towards my taste.....mainly looks. Thing is....I don't *need* a new case, I'm just jelly😥. It'll be better if I just mod my R5 (PSU Shroud, Glass Side Panel) Then, it'll be even heavier....smfh! Now that I think about, buying the P400S would probably be cheaper than me trying to mod my case and remove the chance of my f*cking it up / it looking like shit lol. Oh Look At That! "Phanteks P400S TGE vs. NZXT S340 Elite" Thanks Greg! Wow, and I paid $60 for NZXT's HUE! 🤐
Thanks so much for this review. I purchased the meshify c based on it and this is a brilliant case. I had a case that was roughly the same size but the airflow was awful. This case dropped the temp by 10-12 c and after doing some tweaking as well i got the new fans to be very quiet even when hitting higher temps. This is a really nice looking but also super cool case.
I love that case makers are getting the size of their ATX cases smaller like this one. Nice case. Missing Type C IO. Surprised case makers are coming out with new cases in 2017 without Type C. This makes these cases obsolete right away.
Hello! A big thank for making this video! I will buy my new PC with this components included: >Fractal Design Meshify C Black Tempered Glass case >GigaByte X570 GAMING Motherboard >AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz Processor >ASUS GTX 1660 SUPER Advanced Evo 6GB Graphics card >Kingston 16GB HyperX Predator 3000 MHz DDR4 Memory >Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Winchester >Kingston 1TB M.2 SSD Drive >Noctua 12cm Universal CPU cooler >Cooler-Master Master Watt lite 700W PSU >Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit operation system Thanks again! Greetings from Hungary!
Looks like you don't understand why Fractal go smalling this case little bit. That second fan space you talking about most of the people don't use like your self actually unnecessarly making the cases longer. Loks like Fractal spot that needless space make case much more small and compact. Also you don't need to pop off all front panel to clean the mesh. Watch HardwareCanucks video how easly take off that front mesh panel.
240x120 radiator (like Corsair HX110i v2) fits perfectly on top of the case, without blocking anything on the mainboard. Larger than 120mm (like the Corsair HX115i) doesn't fit as they are blocked by the motherboard.
9:51 I totally agree. I have a define s myself and it's absolutely great, my only real complaint is that there's no psu basement. Literally no other complaints.
They sell custom PSU shrouds for that case here: www.savantpcs.com/store/fddsmesh/ A little pricey but they look good and still leave plenty of space on the right for a large rad or pump/res
i love the tint, and its probably the main reason i went with this case. it will allow for a nice rgb effect. i was thinking a slow "breath" mode in orange.
You can actually put a triple case fan on the front of it. I am surprised that none of these reviewers had actually mentioned that or even think that metal plate was removable.
I bought the Fractal Meshify Mini C and installed my hardware into it yesterday. I switched to this from the Define Mini C. (Non TG). Build experience, both cases are the same. Only thing that is a little annoying is the front panel on the Meshify Mini c that has IO cables attached to it but I can get past that. I love the dark tinted TG and this is my first TG case and super happy with it. Since the Meshify Mini C only comes with a top mesh filter. I took this off and installed the moduvent panel from my Define Mini C as the top filter cutout dimensions are the same. The Meshify C comes with a right side panel that has no sound dampening material that was previously included on my Define Mini C. Both panels are the same dimensions so I've also swapped this. My colour scheme inside of the same is Black/White. I have white cables, fans and expansion brackets. Once again, I removed the white brackets from my Define Mini C as I think it adds that little bit of extra consistency with the theme. I have 2 x 120mm Silent Wings 3 at the front and 1 x Fractal design GP-12 (120mm white fan) at the back exhaust. My CPU cooler is the Cryorig H7 as this fits perfectly with the Black/White colour scheme and is a brilliant performer for the price. Finally to top it all off, I have 1 x cooler master led bar installed at the front of the top of the case which gives a nice white glow. The bar is very bright with non tinted panels so I'm glad the panel on the Meshify Mini C is so dark as it gives a very tasteful pure white glow that isn't overpowering.
i bought this today and i am sooo happy! such an upgrade from my old case that was 7 years old.. :p It was a sleeper! this totally changed my setup and it is gorgeous!
Henri V I bought the dark glass, it looks so sleek and it doesnt show anything inside unless you got lights inside, i got rgbfans inside and When they are white it looks so sexy
Greg, try adding some subtle white LED's inside the case that act as lamps. That will make it easier to see what's inside, while still being subtle with the tint. I think you'll learn to love the tint.
You can pop off that front mesh without removing the whole front panel. Once the bottom filter is pulled out, put your fingers up in the slot and push outward towards yourself.
Great case, I did my R5 build in it. I had such a great time building inside this case. The only thing is that a full size psu gets a bit cramped with the drive cages installed. I have a seasonic focus plus 750 gold which is 20 mm shorter, with that room i was able to stuff my cables in there. I also have two 140 mm fans in the front with a 240 rad on top. Its a bit tight, but everything fit with a MSI x370 gaming pro carbon. My 140 mm fans are white LED makes the front mesh stand out in the dark, love it!
it's a case optimised for air cooling and it's a perfect case for it. A custom loop wasn't the purpose of this case but a aio will easily fit on top any 120,140,240,280 will fit.
2 years on, and this case has been reccomended to me, so I am here researching it Nice review Thank You, I think I will go for this one for my first build in 6 years, due to your review
The dark tint is AMAZING with RGB lighting. It removes the bloom and makes it look less obnoxious. However, if you don't get any RGB or lighting in general... A lighter tint would prob be better as mentioned in this video.
I like the white case, mainly cause I got white components- white ram, white mobo, white power supply. Basically the whole build is black and white, looks really clean, especially with rgb. White rgb looks suuuperrr clean with my build its actually soooo smooth. Literally my build made me paint my desk and walls white
2 years later and the Meshify c is still may favorite case on the market. now I just can't wait for an updated model. All it needs is the updated front io, the new tg panel mounting system which is now standard on fractal cases, and if possible a slightly more modular power supply basement. I don't care if nothing else changes as long as I get those few things. Edit: Maybe since it is such a compact case it might also be a good idea to bring back the old exterior grommets for routing of tubing to external water cooling hardware.
its a good case. I got one yesterday. Really nice RGB Integration, there is a dedicated button for it. So far I would recommend it. Airflow is average with a blocking front panel and top and bottom intakes on it. And I think except for noise dampening and the fan control button next to the rgb control button its the same as the p400.
Watercooling works fine in this case. Just finished a full EK loop in my Define C. One little clearance issue in the lower front but it was easy to find a workaround.
if you front mount the radiator you can open the front and cut the plastic grid out and put your radiator in it or fans will give you a little more space. and the tent is amazing mixed with green and black wires. green lit up fans with the black tent, makes it look amazing. tho fans can get loud if you fill it. I took the bottom off and put two more fans in. 1 in back two on top, three in front and on on bottom pulling air up into it.
It is actually possible to pop out the front cover without seeing cables. If you put your fingers underneath the case it's possible to simply push the cover off instead of taking the entire front section off.
Hmmmm ya know in a way I think it would be interesting to see you try and overcome those challenges for a custom loop. That said you looked quite happy at the end when ya said the catchphrase, I'm glad to see :).
I just picked up the define mini c TG edition and I have to say it's beautiful! 3x120mm thermal take riing fans in front, Celsius s24 up top exhausting with the stock 120mm rear exhausting. Gtx 1080 with arctic accelero iii extreme cooler (hence the rad up top, cooler is long!). Thing is quiet as all get out and my i7 4790k 4.4ghz stays below 55c and gpu 55c all day long while gaming. It's so neat!!!!! Love the new TG define cases!
When you remove the front panel you can actually do it easier without taking off the whole face plate if that makes sense. After you remove the bottom air filter if you put your fingers in that opening between the bottom of the shell and the mesh face plate you can pop it out that way and its just removing the air filter on the front so you dont have to worry about the cables. Hope that helps/makes sense there is a few videos online showing it though.
I run a powerhouse in Fractal's Arc Mini R2. Fuck RGB, except for maybe the light on the CPU pump and the video card. Small, minimalistic, a mature and unassuming sleeper. Giant, full tower circus-like RGB cases are for kids and plebs.
ananas6969 Most people use rgb for it's flexibility. I agree if you put everything on rainbow, that is disgusting, but If they use it to take of advantage because they can match colors, there is nothing wrong with that.
Since the case is so wide and the radiator is shifted towards the glass panel side (see top view), so VRM heat sinks should not matter. The radiator and its fans will be well above them; even a 240. You can see that when you showed the top down dust cover remove shot where you can see the mounting points and VRM height. Cheers.
It had dark and clear glass options when I was looking at it on New egg, I bought the extra dark on purpose. I enjoy the black out look and at night it actually makes your RGB look better imo. Havent had any issues with my case. Ryzen 7 3700x, Asus rog strix 2070, G skill trident 3600 ram. using the AMD stock cooler for now....in the market for a AIO not sure what I want honestly.
I have the older Define C and I love it....it so pleasant to work in this case and it is pretty quiet plus the airflow it is pretty good, not as good as the Meshify C but still a fantastic pick for those that don't want Tempered Glass on their cases like me. Mostly because I am pretty clumsy XD
I'm glad there's a Dark TG. I actually hate the fact that it's so limiting when you want just a mesh or no see through side panel. Pretty much every case nowadays has that annoying window.
If a H100iv2 fits on the top Moduvent of my Define Nano S, then a 240 AIO will fit on the top panel of that case with a motherboard in it. It's fine. The clearance is a little tricky and you have to make sure you put in your 4+4 pin first, but I've had zero issues with my build in a smaller version of this case with a similarly sized AIO.
I Have the older Define R5, no PSU backet, Psu shroud, a bit larger i would guess, acryllic side window, yet lots of sound dampening foam etc, moduvents, integral fan controller.... these newer ones look cool, but the r5 was a dream case for me for years lol, not about to put it away :P
Your gpu issues are kind of mute here. This case was clearly designed for air cooling in mind. Yes it supports AIOs and custom water cooling, but yeah I don’t think it’s fair to hark on it because it can’t fit a “non reference ” graphics card when it could easily if you were rocking air cooling vs aio/custom cooling.
Fractal Design pulled a No Man's Sky.We were promised an awesome case with (finally) tempered glass and all we get is a Define C with a different front.
For the price it’s the absolute best case on the market even in 2018. These sort of cases arent meant for you high end enthusiasts it’s meant for the 1080 gamer with an air cooler on cpu and a medium sized gpu aka a 580. And the whole dark tint I actually prefer. With some simple Corsair RGB pro ram and 2 LED strips u can see things fine. The partial disruption is actually nice I don’t care to see everything just that of which I highlight with my led strips and ram. So basically it works for me. Meaning I’m so glad I bought it. Only gripe I have with it would be the size. If they made a full tower with these exact same specs and features I’d easily pay another 30 bucks for that. But right now with my current build aka a mid tower build the mid tower meshify C works Perfect for me. I just want the full tower so I can have another perfect case but for my future full tower build. Since I won’t be doing 1080p gaming at that point.
Hmmmm... I don't understand why you dislike the white fan blades, white PCI brackets and white HDD bays. I have always loved Fractal for their simple and beautiful design, having the contrasts between the white details and black case. Nice review though! Really been looking at the Define C mini, but due to limited stock where I live I haven't gone for it... but now I really am thinking about the meshify, its just sad they don't have a mini version, but seeing the Focus G, Define C etc, they will probably soon! :D
One small critique Greg: the front panel can be popped out without having to take the whole front of as Dmitry from HardwareCanucks found. Really solid case and review! Would totally like to see one of the legendary Greg certified watercooling loop in one of these one day!
1080ti ftw3 and a rad+ fans wont fit. a 280 rad with fans up top wont fit either because it hits the ram. the only solution is a 240 rad+fans up top if you have a long card. BUT its still the best case created.
I have a Define Mini C and assuming the Define C has similar dimensions plus the additional ATX height then you can fit a full loop within the confines of the Mesh. Using a 240*38mm rad with 25mm fans in both the front and top of the case. 2 reference 1080Ti boards leaves about 6mm of space between it and the front fans. Top radiator clears motherboard components however it results in top connectors being completely inaccessible. Had to use a Swiftech Apogee Drive II for the pump, and a Swiftech MCRES for the reservoir. Again this is a Mini C so I have less height to work with; the C and Meshify might have enough height to use real reservoirs and pumps with a little creativity. Also of note is that I had to run one of the tubes from the front radiator through the cable management area behind the tray. Just wanted to mention that it absolutely has the clearance. It's not a long case, but its well designed.
You don’t need to pull the whole front panel off if you are trying to mount fans for instance, there is a latch under the front panel which is accessible once you remove the bottom filter so that you may remove the front mesh filter, so not that hard
That cable management is disgustingly good as always, would love to do a build an achieve something clean like this :) The Fractal Define R5 Titanium goes alright for me, airflow could be better but with the Noctua fans it's super quiet, in fact when it's underload I still barely notice it. I can here the fridge from the kitchen haha
You could actually remove the front mesh+dust filter by sticking you hand under the front panel and basically pushing the mesh out towards you, so you don't have to worry about the front I/O cables
Mucteba Gurcanli You were faster..
Pin
Yeah HardwareCanucks review of the case mentioned that. Good tip!
You literally just gave the whole world your fingerprint in high def.
Ultra high def.
I will Nicholas cage that shit
Finally a standard tempered glass case from fractal
He used metric, he is intelligent.
he used a mix of metric and retarded (imperial). Lately im seeing more american youtubers using metric system, they are starting to notice the superiority of metric system haha
Exactly, Metric > Imperial.
I mean he does have an engineering degree. He's probably pretty used to using metric.
Your profile pic complements your comment pretty nicely!
I doubt it, I think they are seeing that a lot of their viewers are in countries that use the metric system.
🤔 There aren't any power cables.
I bet there isn't even thermal paste under that aio.
I don't like being bamboozled, Greg.
There's thermal paste, just no cabling ;-) This was literally a hot-swap from the Define C.
bamboozling hooman
Seductive Panda I
Lmfao
You have done us a bamboozle
Literally just bought the define C :/
EDIT: Refunded it and purchased the tempered glass edition :)
Im getting this case and for me, the tinted glass is PERFECT. Gives it a sleek look and for my parts is perfect and if I want more lighting to make it stand out inside ill just buy 2 rgb fans to the front
I have alienware aurora R5 gonna change my case so excited hope paid with i7 8700K new mobo
I got the meshify C now
Goku Black The Dark TG, right? There's a lightly tinted TG edition now too, I don't know which one to go for. Is it as dark as in the video?
Just wondering. Can u actually fit a fan in front of the front case? Cos im I have a 1080 strix and it's too long. And I dont want to mount the radiator on top
nice to meet you mesh
Spesh mesh!
shem shesh wat
I think the tinted glass is better than the other cases. I really dont need to see the interior of my pc everyday. Otherwise, great video!
True, but it also works really well with black + rgb builds
Tinted is great for hiding brown PCBs lol
8:12 now we all know your fingerprint, do not become a criminal now
It even has an S in the middle for Science Studio if you look closely!
mystery solved lel
The cable management does not look that meshy though
I currently own Fractal's Define R5 (Windowed) and love it! But cheaper, smaller looking, tempered glass cases are really annoying (In a good way?) being as though I spent $120 on my case......Edit: Ha! I just realized I answered my own question. 😅
I was trying to decide between:
Current Case: ($120) 22.69 lbs. Acrylic, Sound Dampening Foam, Fan Controller, Removable ODD Drive Bay.
NZXT's S340 Elite ($100) 17.92 lbs. Glass, Front Panel HDMI.
Fractal's Define C TG ($95) 14.99.lbs Glass.
Phanteks Eclipse P400S ($80). 15.40 lbs. Glass, Sound Dampening Foam, Magnetic Dust Filters, Fan Controller, RGB LED Controller. *WINNER!*
I wanted a new case cause I'll be getting an HTC Vive pretty soon and plan on showing it off to friends/family and didn't want to lug this heavy ass case around. The S340 Elite does have a front panel HDMI port which is perfect for connectivity but the Eclipse has more features geared towards my taste.....mainly looks. Thing is....I don't *need* a new case, I'm just jelly😥. It'll be better if I just mod my R5 (PSU Shroud, Glass Side Panel) Then, it'll be even heavier....smfh! Now that I think about, buying the P400S would probably be cheaper than me trying to mod my case and remove the chance of my f*cking it up / it looking like shit lol.
Oh Look At That! "Phanteks P400S TGE vs. NZXT S340 Elite" Thanks Greg! Wow, and I paid $60 for NZXT's HUE! 🤐
I love the tint. Fractal always knows how to make their cases classy instead of overdone and tacky.
Thanks so much for this review. I purchased the meshify c based on it and this is a brilliant case. I had a case that was roughly the same size but the airflow was awful. This case dropped the temp by 10-12 c and after doing some tweaking as well i got the new fans to be very quiet even when hitting higher temps. This is a really nice looking but also super cool case.
I love that case makers are getting the size of their ATX cases smaller like this one. Nice case. Missing Type C IO. Surprised case makers are coming out with new cases in 2017 without Type C. This makes these cases obsolete right away.
Hello! A big thank for making this video!
I will buy my new PC with this components included:
>Fractal Design Meshify C Black Tempered Glass case
>GigaByte X570 GAMING Motherboard
>AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz Processor
>ASUS GTX 1660 SUPER Advanced Evo 6GB Graphics card
>Kingston 16GB HyperX Predator 3000 MHz DDR4 Memory
>Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Winchester
>Kingston 1TB M.2 SSD Drive
>Noctua 12cm Universal CPU cooler
>Cooler-Master Master Watt lite 700W PSU
>Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit operation system
Thanks again! Greetings from Hungary!
damn i only see your beautiful 1080ti
Brand?
Mind Freaky it's a PNY 1080Ti blower style www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133651
The black with a slight of white build in this case looks beautiful, look clean af
This looks fine for a full air-cooler build, thanks for the vid.
Looks like you don't understand why Fractal go smalling this case little bit.
That second fan space you talking about most of the people don't use like your self actually unnecessarly making the cases longer.
Loks like Fractal spot that needless space make case much more small and compact.
Also you don't need to pop off all front panel to clean the mesh.
Watch HardwareCanucks video how easly take off that front mesh panel.
I picked up this case yesterday and I love the tint. It's perfect for me. Great job with this review man!
240x120 radiator (like Corsair HX110i v2) fits perfectly on top of the case, without blocking anything on the mainboard. Larger than 120mm (like the Corsair HX115i) doesn't fit as they are blocked by the motherboard.
Good to see that you are also on the same table as others tech you tubers and getting the stuffs at the same time like others. ⭐️🔥
9:51 I totally agree. I have a define s myself and it's absolutely great, my only real complaint is that there's no psu basement. Literally no other complaints.
They sell custom PSU shrouds for that case here: www.savantpcs.com/store/fddsmesh/
A little pricey but they look good and still leave plenty of space on the right for a large rad or pump/res
i love the tint, and its probably the main reason i went with this case. it will allow for a nice rgb effect. i was thinking a slow "breath" mode in orange.
Nice cable management!
timoe most of the cables aren't there
Loved the design, just wanted to make sure it was practical for the components I've chosen to build with. This video was perfect. thank you!!
You can actually put a triple case fan on the front of it. I am surprised that none of these reviewers had actually mentioned that or even think that metal plate was removable.
I bought the Fractal Meshify Mini C and installed my hardware into it yesterday. I switched to this from the Define Mini C. (Non TG).
Build experience, both cases are the same. Only thing that is a little annoying is the front panel on the Meshify Mini c that has IO cables attached to it but I can get past that. I love the dark tinted TG and this is my first TG case and super happy with it.
Since the Meshify Mini C only comes with a top mesh filter. I took this off and installed the moduvent panel from my Define Mini C as the top filter cutout dimensions are the same.
The Meshify C comes with a right side panel that has no sound dampening material that was previously included on my Define Mini C. Both panels are the same dimensions so I've also swapped this.
My colour scheme inside of the same is Black/White. I have white cables, fans and expansion brackets. Once again, I removed the white brackets from my Define Mini C as I think it adds that little bit of extra consistency with the theme. I have 2 x 120mm Silent Wings 3 at the front and 1 x Fractal design GP-12 (120mm white fan) at the back exhaust. My CPU cooler is the Cryorig H7 as this fits perfectly with the Black/White colour scheme and is a brilliant performer for the price.
Finally to top it all off, I have 1 x cooler master led bar installed at the front of the top of the case which gives a nice white glow. The bar is very bright with non tinted panels so I'm glad the panel on the Meshify Mini C is so dark as it gives a very tasteful pure white glow that isn't overpowering.
i bought this today and i am sooo happy! such an upgrade from my old case that was 7 years old.. :p It was a sleeper! this totally changed my setup and it is gorgeous!
thuddiz since you got it recently, did you go with the dark or the new light tempered glass version?
Henri V I bought the dark glass, it looks so sleek and it doesnt show anything inside unless you got lights inside, i got rgbfans inside and When they are white it looks so sexy
thuddiz Hmm, okay, I'll probably go with the seethrough one, otherwise I wouldn't see inside the case :D
Henri V best looking case hands down 2017/18! Im still supeeer happy with it!
thuddiz oh cool, they just came out with a White version too!
Greg, try adding some subtle white LED's inside the case that act as lamps. That will make it easier to see what's inside, while still being subtle with the tint. I think you'll learn to love the tint.
You can pop off that front mesh without removing the whole front panel. Once the bottom filter is pulled out, put your fingers up in the slot and push outward towards yourself.
Great case, I did my R5 build in it. I had such a great time building inside this case. The only thing is that a full size psu gets a bit cramped with the drive cages installed. I have a seasonic focus plus 750 gold which is 20 mm shorter, with that room i was able to stuff my cables in there. I also have two 140 mm fans in the front with a 240 rad on top. Its a bit tight, but everything fit with a MSI x370 gaming pro carbon. My 140 mm fans are white LED makes the front mesh stand out in the dark, love it!
it's a case optimised for air cooling and it's a perfect case for it. A custom loop wasn't the purpose of this case but a aio will easily fit on top any 120,140,240,280 will fit.
2 years on, and this case has been reccomended to me, so I am here researching it
Nice review Thank You, I think I will go for this one for my first build in 6 years, due to your review
Did you buy it? If so how is it ?
Geeze I'm 2yrs late but this is the case I will be buying for my first build. Thanks for the review...
The dark tint is AMAZING with RGB lighting. It removes the bloom and makes it look less obnoxious. However, if you don't get any RGB or lighting in general... A lighter tint would prob be better as mentioned in this video.
I like the white case, mainly cause I got white components- white ram, white mobo, white power supply. Basically the whole build is black and white, looks really clean, especially with rgb. White rgb looks suuuperrr clean with my build its actually soooo smooth. Literally my build made me paint my desk and walls white
looks very clean, neat and components just matched the overall thing
2 years later and the Meshify c is still may favorite case on the market. now I just can't wait for an updated model. All it needs is the updated front io, the new tg panel mounting system which is now standard on fractal cases, and if possible a slightly more modular power supply basement. I don't care if nothing else changes as long as I get those few things.
Edit: Maybe since it is such a compact case it might also be a good idea to bring back the old exterior grommets for routing of tubing to external water cooling hardware.
If the cables are so good why don't you have them in
I love this case, this is my case, and is my favorite airflow build.
Greg you can take the front dust filter off without taking off the whole front panel so you dont have to worry about the front IO cables
Review the
Phanteks Eclipse P400S withTempered Glass.I have been hearing good things about Phanteks. Thanks for the review & keep up the good work.
He did a p400 tge vs nzxt 340 elite in where he gives a semi review of it
its a good case. I got one yesterday. Really nice RGB Integration, there is a dedicated button for it. So far I would recommend it. Airflow is average with a blocking front panel and top and bottom intakes on it. And I think except for noise dampening and the fan control button next to the rgb control button its the same as the p400.
Brent Chessen Already did.
Wow u replied keep up with the good work really love the vides enjoyable informative and professional. Thanks for helping me.
Science Studio seriously man. I need one of those shirts!!
Got the Mesh C mini for Micro ATX. I love it.
Watercooling works fine in this case. Just finished a full EK loop in my Define C. One little clearance issue in the lower front but it was easy to find a workaround.
I'm going to use this case for my 2020 3900x build! Awesome review
Watching Science Studio Is so cool he sounds cool.
You can get this without tinted glass
yooo logan williams v.2
@@loganwilliams8043 damn, same name
if you front mount the radiator you can open the front and cut the plastic grid out and put your radiator in it or fans will give you a little more space. and the tent is amazing mixed with green and black wires. green lit up fans with the black tent, makes it look amazing. tho fans can get loud if you fill it. I took the bottom off and put two more fans in. 1 in back two on top, three in front and on on bottom pulling air up into it.
Damn greg! Back at it again with the dope reviews!
so many meshify videos in my subbox... glad i chose this one =)
It is actually possible to pop out the front cover without seeing cables. If you put your fingers underneath the case it's possible to simply push the cover off instead of taking the entire front section off.
Hmmmm ya know in a way I think it would be interesting to see you try and overcome those challenges for a custom loop. That said you looked quite happy at the end when ya said the catchphrase, I'm glad to see :).
I just picked up the define mini c TG edition and I have to say it's beautiful! 3x120mm thermal take riing fans in front, Celsius s24 up top exhausting with the stock 120mm rear exhausting. Gtx 1080 with arctic accelero iii extreme cooler (hence the rad up top, cooler is long!). Thing is quiet as all get out and my i7 4790k 4.4ghz stays below 55c and gpu 55c all day long while gaming. It's so neat!!!!! Love the new TG define cases!
Congrats for the 250k subs
When you remove the front panel you can actually do it easier without taking off the whole face plate if that makes sense. After you remove the bottom air filter if you put your fingers in that opening between the bottom of the shell and the mesh face plate you can pop it out that way and its just removing the air filter on the front so you dont have to worry about the cables. Hope that helps/makes sense there is a few videos online showing it though.
I run a powerhouse in Fractal's Arc Mini R2. Fuck RGB, except for maybe the light on the CPU pump and the video card. Small, minimalistic, a mature and unassuming sleeper. Giant, full tower circus-like RGB cases are for kids and plebs.
ananas6969 Most people use rgb for it's flexibility. I agree if you put everything on rainbow, that is disgusting, but If they use it to take of advantage because they can match colors, there is nothing wrong with that.
How DARE people build their cases with rgb how they like, fuck em, my way or the high way.
Imagine the LED lighting from those JBL speakers behind that mesh front (Ik it's for airflow but it'd be cool)
As a Define S owner, I must admit I like that front mesh!
Since the case is so wide and the radiator is shifted towards the glass panel side (see top view), so VRM heat sinks should not matter. The radiator and its fans will be well above them; even a 240. You can see that when you showed the top down dust cover remove shot where you can see the mounting points and VRM height. Cheers.
I recently purchased a Meshify C with the solid side panel. I LOATHE anything rgb (Well accept for keyboards so I can work/lightly game at night.)
It had dark and clear glass options when I was looking at it on New egg, I bought the extra dark on purpose. I enjoy the black out look and at night it actually makes your RGB look better imo. Havent had any issues with my case. Ryzen 7 3700x, Asus rog strix 2070, G skill trident 3600 ram. using the AMD stock cooler for now....in the market for a AIO not sure what I want honestly.
Can't wait for Greg to review the Rx Vega lineup.
The cable management isn't a dream. You're a dream, you're so dreamy 😍😍😍
I have the older Define C and I love it....it so pleasant to work in this case and it is pretty quiet plus the airflow it is pretty good, not as good as the Meshify C but still a fantastic pick for those that don't want Tempered Glass on their cases like me. Mostly because I am pretty clumsy XD
They have the Define C with the Tempered Glass now, now that's the case that I want.
I'm glad there's a Dark TG. I actually hate the fact that it's so limiting when you want just a mesh or no see through side panel. Pretty much every case nowadays has that annoying window.
You remind me of my Math teacher so much its weird.
If a H100iv2 fits on the top Moduvent of my Define Nano S, then a 240 AIO will fit on the top panel of that case with a motherboard in it. It's fine. The clearance is a little tricky and you have to make sure you put in your 4+4 pin first, but I've had zero issues with my build in a smaller version of this case with a similarly sized AIO.
Sweet looking tower.
best case on the market today. so much room . have a n over 12 inch card with room to spare. Top case.
I Have the older Define R5, no PSU backet, Psu shroud, a bit larger i would guess, acryllic side window, yet lots of sound dampening foam etc, moduvents, integral fan controller.... these newer ones look cool, but the r5 was a dream case for me for years lol, not about to put it away :P
Your gpu issues are kind of mute here. This case was clearly designed for air cooling in mind. Yes it supports AIOs and custom water cooling, but yeah I don’t think it’s fair to hark on it because it can’t fit a “non reference ” graphics card when it could easily if you were rocking air cooling vs aio/custom cooling.
I JUST BOUGHT THE DEFINE C. DAMMIT FRACTAL DESIGN
i moved my parts into one of these. soo much better than the pos cheap bendy case i had before lol.
Fractal Design pulled a No Man's Sky.We were promised an awesome case with (finally) tempered glass and all we get is a Define C with a different front.
For the price it’s the absolute best case on the market even in 2018. These sort of cases arent meant for you high end enthusiasts it’s meant for the 1080 gamer with an air cooler on cpu and a medium sized gpu aka a 580. And the whole dark tint I actually prefer. With some simple Corsair RGB pro ram and 2 LED strips u can see things fine. The partial disruption is actually nice I don’t care to see everything just that of which I highlight with my led strips and ram. So basically it works for me.
Meaning I’m so glad I bought it.
Only gripe I have with it would be the size. If they made a full tower with these exact same specs and features I’d easily pay another 30 bucks for that. But right now with my current build aka a mid tower build the mid tower meshify C works Perfect for me. I just want the full tower so I can have another perfect case but for my future full tower build. Since I won’t be doing 1080p gaming at that point.
if u want to connect many fans where do you connect them? as i can see this case doesnt has a fan connector hub
The dark TG with some white LED would look awesome
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We swedes love fractal design
Hmmmm... I don't understand why you dislike the white fan blades, white PCI brackets and white HDD bays.
I have always loved Fractal for their simple and beautiful design, having the contrasts between the white details and black case.
Nice review though! Really been looking at the Define C mini, but due to limited stock where I live I haven't gone for it... but now I really am thinking about the meshify, its just sad they don't have a mini version, but seeing the Focus G, Define C etc, they will probably soon! :D
As a air cooling person this case is a dream come true.
definitely getting this case. more value than h500 seeing the extra stuff you can put in it (mainly rad support and airflow).
One small critique Greg: the front panel can be popped out without having to take the whole front of as Dmitry from HardwareCanucks found. Really solid case and review! Would totally like to see one of the legendary Greg certified watercooling loop in one of these one day!
You can remove that front mesh but reaching underneath and pushing the mesh out with your fingers. Without having to remove the front panel
1080ti ftw3 and a rad+ fans wont fit.
a 280 rad with fans up top wont fit either because it hits the ram.
the only solution is a 240 rad+fans up top if you have a long card.
BUT its still the best case created.
Graviton AS oh man i was worried about the MSI 1080 Ti not fitting with a 280 rad in the front. What kind of temps are u getting with the rad on top??
I have a Define Mini C and assuming the Define C has similar dimensions plus the additional ATX height then you can fit a full loop within the confines of the Mesh. Using a 240*38mm rad with 25mm fans in both the front and top of the case. 2 reference 1080Ti boards leaves about 6mm of space between it and the front fans. Top radiator clears motherboard components however it results in top connectors being completely inaccessible. Had to use a Swiftech Apogee Drive II for the pump, and a Swiftech MCRES for the reservoir. Again this is a Mini C so I have less height to work with; the C and Meshify might have enough height to use real reservoirs and pumps with a little creativity. Also of note is that I had to run one of the tubes from the front radiator through the cable management area behind the tray.
Just wanted to mention that it absolutely has the clearance. It's not a long case, but its well designed.
You don’t need to pull the whole front panel off if you are trying to mount fans for instance, there is a latch under the front panel which is accessible once you remove the bottom filter so that you may remove the front mesh filter, so not that hard
That cable management is disgustingly good as always, would love to do a build an achieve something clean like this :) The Fractal Define R5 Titanium goes alright for me, airflow could be better but with the Noctua fans it's super quiet, in fact when it's underload I still barely notice it. I can here the fridge from the kitchen haha
At that price point, I don't think there's a sexier case out there. Looks rad!
You forgot the card at 0:36 when you say "Right here", I think! Love the videos, m8
The define s + tempered glass+ mesh on the front panel + basement + inch taller + 1\4 inch wider = perfect case.
The white pci covers are awesome
Thumbs up for the Breaking Benjamin shirt Greg, they hail from a nearby town by me called Wilkes-Barre.
I'm not a fan of rgb but I'd like to show off hardware and the darker tint is perfect!!!
I love the tint.
Get a Define S if you want more space that's why there are more choices the C is a smaller version for more compact builds. C = Compact.
what i like about it, and what i really like about it, and what I REALLY REALLLLLLLLLLY LIKE ABOUT IT!
I wish they would make a "basement" version of the Define S too. They had a good design, it's a bit of a missed opportunity not to iterate on it.
Hell yes, I've been waiting for this case