It's post-punk! I'm glad you enjoyed it even if you didn't care for Ian's voice. For me, initially Ian's voice took some getting used to and now it definitely fits with the music. I love JD and was lucky enough to see Peter Hook & the Light a few years back playing JD and NO songs. It was awesome. 80s post-punk and alternative music alone makes that decade my favorite ever by far!!
You were right about the nucleus of the group forming after a Sex Pistols gig. It was a legendary gig at the Lesser Free Hall in Manchester in 1976. After the gig Hooky and Barney bought instruments to start a band that later became Joy Division. It was a gig arranged by Pete Shelley and Howard Devoto of the Buzzcocks. Also in attendance was Morrissey (later of the Smiths), Mick Hucknall of Simply Red (so he says) and Tony Wilson who later formed Factory Records. It was one of the most famous gigs in British music history even though there were only about 40/50 people there apparently.
Loved your reaction (and Bears too!) Unknown Pleasures would be a fabulous full album reaction. It definitely does not disappoint from start to finish!
I agree with below..Ian's voice can take a little getting used to. I suggest She's Lost Control Again next. Bear in mind that Ian had epilepsy and depression and that the song is literally about a woman he saw whilst she lost control of her body having an epileptic fit. How scary for her but also for him knowing it could happen at any time.
I think probably better to listen to Joy Divisions Transmission if you've only heard love will tear us apart. To then appreciate tracks like shadow play if I was to introduce someone to Joy Division imo.
Bernard Sumner said he now finds listening to some of their Joy Division songs a bit tough. He also said when they first saw the sex pistols perform they felt they could easily do the same in thrashing around with guitars. It didnt look that hard.
No Son, No daughter , instead an inanimate bear who in fact appears to be a monkey - you're messing with my mind - stop messing with my mind. The beauty of "Unknown Pleasures" is that the effects and sounds were done so cheaply and simply that it's amazing it still stands up but it does. If you ever watch something like "24 Hour Party People" you will see the most famous way of getting the sound which was setting up Stephen Morris and his drum kit on the metal fire escape outside the studio to get that tinny rattling sound. A few years later when they were New Order they had a drum machine and synths but you couldn't get them to synch up and they asked a guy at the local uni if he could come up with something to get the two machines to talk to each other and with that modern dance music was born. When you mentioned Kraftwerk there was a funny story - they were so impressed by "Unknown Pleasures" so they booked the studio assuming it would be state of the art and when they got there they looked around in confusion at the old ratty surroundings and asked how those sounds could come from this and then when they were shown how they laughed out loud because everything was so low tech and jury-rigged but also brilliantly conceived. Martin Hannett was a genius when it came to working out how to do that sort of stuff.
I think Ian does sing a certain way depending on the song tho. Love will tear us apart vocally is completely different to shadow play. He has an amazing voice. RIP.
What is interesting with this album,pil Metal box the scream Siouxsie and the banshees is that all 3 albums paint a good picture of what living in the uk as a teenager was like in the late 70s. It was pretty bleak
When ian sings you know he is serious.This music rings true and is more relevant now than when it came out. I got into JD to try and be different and then realized I was 🤔
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It's post-punk! I'm glad you enjoyed it even if you didn't care for Ian's voice. For me, initially Ian's voice took some getting used to and now it definitely fits with the music. I love JD and was lucky enough to see Peter Hook & the Light a few years back playing JD and NO songs. It was awesome. 80s post-punk and alternative music alone makes that decade my favorite ever by far!!
You were right about the nucleus of the group forming after a Sex Pistols gig. It was a legendary gig at the Lesser Free Hall in Manchester in 1976. After the gig Hooky and Barney bought instruments to start a band that later became Joy Division. It was a gig arranged by Pete Shelley and Howard Devoto of the Buzzcocks. Also in attendance was Morrissey (later of the Smiths), Mick Hucknall of Simply Red (so he says) and Tony Wilson who later formed Factory Records. It was one of the most famous gigs in British music history even though there were only about 40/50 people there apparently.
Fab Insight, Thx so much 😎✌🏼
I listened to it in 1979 and you're right, we were "blown away".
Loved your reaction (and Bears too!) Unknown Pleasures would be a fabulous full album reaction. It definitely does not disappoint from start to finish!
Was fortunate enough to see them in 1978 in a small venue in London as a unknown support act
Wow that's legendary 😎😎
I agree with below..Ian's voice can take a little getting used to. I suggest She's Lost Control Again next. Bear in mind that Ian had epilepsy and depression and that the song is literally about a woman he saw whilst she lost control of her body having an epileptic fit. How scary for her but also for him knowing it could happen at any time.
I first listened to JD in 84 and I was blown away.Didn't know much about kraut music back then, but now we can hear Klaus D everywhere in their music,
You hear the Joy Division bass line..that Hook took into New Order.
Peter Hook 😎 Pure Legend
A post punk classic .
I think probably better to listen to Joy Divisions Transmission if you've only heard love will tear us apart. To then appreciate tracks like shadow play if I was to introduce someone to Joy Division imo.
My fav from Joy Division 🖤😢
You get them before they become a sales out to the record company and still make great music after that point
This song was on the film man hunter
Welcome to the world of darkwave/goth
Listen to The Killers Shadowplay
Bernard Sumner said he now finds listening to some of their Joy Division songs a bit tough. He also said when they first saw the sex pistols perform they felt they could easily do the same in thrashing around with guitars. It didnt look that hard.
Cool, Bernard Sumner such an amazing artist 😎😎
No Son, No daughter , instead an inanimate bear who in fact appears to be a monkey - you're messing with my mind - stop messing with my mind. The beauty of "Unknown Pleasures" is that the effects and sounds were done so cheaply and simply that it's amazing it still stands up but it does. If you ever watch something like "24 Hour Party People" you will see the most famous way of getting the sound which was setting up Stephen Morris and his drum kit on the metal fire escape outside the studio to get that tinny rattling sound. A few years later when they were New Order they had a drum machine and synths but you couldn't get them to synch up and they asked a guy at the local uni if he could come up with something to get the two machines to talk to each other and with that modern dance music was born. When you mentioned Kraftwerk there was a funny story - they were so impressed by "Unknown Pleasures" so they booked the studio assuming it would be state of the art and when they got there they looked around in confusion at the old ratty surroundings and asked how those sounds could come from this and then when they were shown how they laughed out loud because everything was so low tech and jury-rigged but also brilliantly conceived. Martin Hannett was a genius when it came to working out how to do that sort of stuff.
Bear is a pretty chill partner, ha 😎 Fab insight ... Thx alpha omega
I think Ian does sing a certain way depending on the song tho. Love will tear us apart vocally is completely different to shadow play. He has an amazing voice. RIP.
What is interesting with this album,pil Metal box the scream Siouxsie and the banshees is that all 3 albums paint a good picture of what living in the uk as a teenager was like in the late 70s. It was pretty bleak
A classic . /C
When ian sings you know he is serious.This music rings true and is more relevant now than when it came out. I got into JD to try and be different and then realized I was 🤔
Different is Good 😎 Fab in my book ✌🏼
React to the killers shadowplay