Alpha J It's the reason why I don't play Hardcore. Every-single-time I play, my kill streaks will kill teammates, and I get booted from the game. If there was no team killing, I would actually play it more, but the only way you can play, is if you use non-lethal kill streaks, and that gets boring to me. Oh, and I also feel you lose a sense of nuance to the individual guns abilities, as everything kills in about one bullet.
I was on a vicious streak in hardcore and I had bombing run on all through the streak didnt kill 1 teamate and called it in and killed everyone (7) and 3 were teamates and I got kicked out....so I play core now
Hardcore Players Need: fast reaction time, great instincts (because there is no mini map), great awareness (you can’t shoot teammates more than 3 times by accident or you will be kicked from game), HC players need to learn how to play with red blood on their screen (if they get shot and survive the blood doesn’t go away). Core Players Need: great constant aim (because it takes 10 bullets to kill someone), learn which is the best gun to use (the best gun usually wins in core), learn how to use mini map (because it’s always available). I played core on IW, but in WW2 I play hardcore. I like HC play style in WW2.
Yeah, I normally play core but the lag compensation on WW2 was so frustrating I tried HC, and it was so much sharper. As long as you're fast at getting your aim on target you can do well. But earning killstreaks is harder, especially with no health regen. One random lucky shot or nade from someone and you're done. At least in core you have a chance to react/recover.
Makes me laugh about the aim bullshit... Hc you have to have a better skill at aiming to get the bullet in first... In core you can have slower aim but still win the gun fight... He talking shit
Yeah that's snap aim. Core has harder aiming in general since you have to keep it on target with recoil which is super difficult. Especially when you're flinching from return fire. Snap aim has to be better in hardcore which is being able to move your crosshair (which you don't have, so you gotta have a good feel for where the center of the screen is) onto a target very fast and precise.
@@SpyWhoLovedHimself core aiming is easy, it’s easy to hit shots(multiple consecutive shots)😭😭. There’s a definite lag in core too, tell me how a dude can take 20 shots and turn around and kill someone in 5 shots 😅😂.... bro no debate hc takes more skill, especially if you quickscope and out do “sprayers” . Core is literally the practice mode 😅😂
I started playing hardcore, when I first played COD, because it sounded more interesting to me. In BO2 I was working on challenges including gamemodes and began playing a LOT of core. I now enjoy both, but moving over to core I found the superiority complex you are talking about in reverse. I think part of what creates the superiority complex you are talking about is the flack hardcore gets from core players. I got a lot of hardcore is for noobs. Hardcore requires no skill, you can just spray and pray. Go back to hardcore where you belong. While that is true to a point, those who spray are usually not very good. Those that do good at hardcore are those who can snap on to target quickly and accurately. While core requires sustained accuracy hardcore requires quick accuracy. It is a lot more than just positioning. I really disagree that core requires a more balanced skill set. Playing both I see that they are both challenging in their own ways. Neither is better than the other, they are just different. While playing with clan mates I have seen Hardcore players try to play core and struggle. I have also seen many Core players try to play Hardcore and struggle as well. These are people that play well in core and struggle to get a handful of kills in hardcore. They are very different mind sets. When I run in core, I have the hud to help me know where to expect enemies from, when I run in hardcore I have to be more aware of my surroundings. I have to watch every direction, and check corners more carefully. This isn't because hardcore is harder but because it is a totally different play style. I really think both sides should stop trying to convince the other that they are better. That theirs is the more difficult mode to play. That you are somehow a better COD player if you play Core/Hardcore. Both are fun and both are challenging. What makes them great is that they are challenging in different ways. It is a good thing that they are different, it makes it more interesting that way. I would not want to see a COD without hardcore, likewise I would not want to see a COD without core. Although I would like to see them rotate some of the gamemodes into hardcore. Put CTF in hardcore for a couple weeks, then replace it with hardpoint or something, and so on. Sorry this was so long, but I have heard so much of the reverse, that just to hear you elude to it as well, put me back in those days of getting razzed by "The True COD Players"(Core players).
Probably the best explanation I've ever read in comparing the two modes. Very well said. I really wish they would show HC players some more love with adding in more game modes like CTF or even a HC Ground War rotated in and out if need be. I've played both modes since the original MW came out and I always lean towards HC more just because I prefer the play style. I've done really well in both modes and also done absolutely terrible in both modes.
Idk about that in HC a bad aimer can still kill a pro aimer from behind even if they miss their first shot. All they have to do is keep spraying and hopefully land 1 shot. In core a bad aimer won't be able to do that to a good aimer unless they are lucky because a good aimer has a chance to turn around and hit all their shots and kill you.
@@hoemie2587 right which makes hardcore harder in this regard. No matter how good you are in core if someone catches you from behind, that's it, you're dead. You don't get the luxury of having a bunch of health to react and turn around. HC is more difficult than core in the aspect of it takes nothing to die. Sure you can get a bunch of kills rather easily if and only if you have great positional awareness, know the map like the back of your hand, have better positioning, and have quick reflexes. Other than that though yea no it's the easiest mode in cod lol. What makes core hard is the meta and landing consecutive shots.
@@hoemie2587 ppl don't move as freely in HC to be behind you half the time it's more like a counter strike flow face to face snap shots down hallways and around corners wait till you and a enemy and snapping out of door ways getting shots off at each other
@@dev1on thats a good thing about hardcore, you can use more variety of guns, for the mw, hardcore ak is seen as the best gun, but you would use that for core
This is an old video now but I want to post my thoughts. I prefer hardcore because I feel that the slight lag and hit detection ruins core sometimes. I have gotten in gun fights in core that I should of won and I lost them because a middle hit didn't register. What probably happens is the enemy strafes but it doesn't register that on my side. I have also seen my shot get hit markers when I am not even shooting on the enemy. In hardcore this doesn't happen usually because it is about the first shot reaction. Also I don't believe in the minimap because it requires you to use a silencer. You should only have minimap when you get a UAV.
Ryu0rKen yes but in hardcore, if you're lagging it's the first couple bullets that do nothing and in a game where it only takes 1 to kill, lag make hardcore more unplayable than core. That's just me tho. In core there are too many other factors that come into play for time to kill. That is why you only hear people complain about, "lag compensation" and "people get punished for being host or having a good connection" that play core. Hardcore players know that is not true. If your connection is good in HC, you will do good, if you're host in HC, you will do incredible. :)
@@WhiteoutMonster or it because they aren’t they knew in the team that play objective all game most ppl play it by capping the first obj then going to a camp spot or to b pick of some ppl for a while then cap some more
I’ve found I’m much better at landing my first shot accurately and BEFORE the other player, rather than landing consecutive shots accurately, so I prefer hc. I also prefer hc because it’s really nice to not show up on the radar unless the enemy has a UAV, and it’s super rewarding getting UAV’s and helping your team.
You can argue either way. "Hardcore is harder because you need quicker reflexes" and the other side of it, "Core is harder because you have to keep your aim on target longer" Lets just be honest.. it's pretty much the same. Shitty players play both. Great players play both.
"Aim doesn't matter in Hardcore; you can spray in their general direction and you''ll get the kill." _Proceeds to miss an entire clip at a guy who has no idea he's there._ Hardcore is much more difficult all around; Core players just refuse to admit it. I play both: Hardcore when I want to tryhard, Core when I want to relax.
I was converted to hardcore for WW2, the dealbreaker for me was that the lower time to kill balances everything better in my opinion, doesnt matter what gun someone uses when theyre almost all One Hit Kills. Plus its fun to run around with pistols and carry.
I play hardcore from a realism standpoint. While core probably requires more thumb skill; I believe hardcore requires more Brian function. Especially in knowing your surroundings and predicting movements
I've seen it from both camps being active on the CoD Forums, and even in BF as well. Core Players swear they are more highly skilled, Hardcore players claim they are more skilled. Fact of the matter is, both modes require a certain level of skill in order to be consistently successful. What it boils down to is... what do you enjoy playing? Play what you like.. like what you play... and what others do or enjoy doing is really no business of yours. The bragging in general over skill has diminished the fun factor of FPS shooters over the years. Just play, have a good time, be a good sport... and if you keep the mindset that you are only as good as your last game, it will help keep you humble.
I’ve always switched between the two game modes, but lean a lot more towards hardcore now. The reason the simply because of what you said. I think it’s a bit more challenging to play without the HUD, calling in kill streaks, and not shooting teammates. The positioning plays a huge role, and being able to successfully navigate a map, without going down is a lot more difficult. Knowing when to aim going around corners, instead of just reaction aiming in core when you see an enemy, like most people do in core. Like another comment said, M4 and SMGS win in core. Knowing when you need the tactical advantage in hardcore is key.
Im a hardcore player, and while i dont look down on core, i do understand the skill sets needed to play it. Sustained accuracy is definitely a necessity in core. Something i think many of you arnt looking at, is also the way you move. If you run a straight line, youre an easy mark in any mode, granted, but in HC, you learn little movement tricks that can really help. Ive seen people jump over my shots, drop shots, and even crouch jump over shots to avoid a headshot. Many HC players play with a high sensitivity to account for being attacked from behind, and many of the good ones can turn on you, even if you get hit markers. There are also cheap tactics that some people use to get their kills, weather they use smoke and thermal scopes. Thats not necessarily cheap, but the way its used sure can be. At the end of the day, do what you gotta do to get your kills, but dont think youre better if you got a lucky shot on a solid HC player. Tactics are something i think HC needs more than core in a lot of ways. How you move, your positioning, do you maintain cover, do you have situational awareness, ect. Some HC players reload after every kill, some like to use head glitches every chance they get. There are things involved in hardcore play that i think some core players would never know about just because theyre not as involved or invested in a hardcore game mode. Granted taking a bullet to the foot wont kill you, but if youve never been shot in the foot, how can you say youd still be in the fight? Im sure there are plenty of things involved in core gameplay that i dont know much about, and ill be the first to admit that sustained accuracy can be difficult sometimes. Thats what a knife and tomahawks are for 😂 One thing i hate about core, is if i put a bullet, or 5 in your face, and youre still moving, there are problems. 2 to the chest is more realistic in hardcore, as well as not knowing exactly whats going on everywhere else on the map. Shooting teammates is a pain. You always have to listen for that grenade, cuz you dont get a big red marker in the middle of your screen, and generally speaking, hardcore players use sound to play. Its almost necessary. I can hear the jingle of the belts on your uniform, i can hear when you aim down sights, i can hear your footsteps and know within 1 foot of where you are, and that also means i know when youre reloading, pulling a pin in a grenade. Everything. Sound is the most useful tool in a hardcore players repertoire next to snap shot accuracy. That is an area where core players can mute their TV and still get all the necessary info they need visually. Just my thoughts on the matter. Do what you will with the info.
Alien gamer You learn to lock on. The only challenge is if you go back to core you have to remember not to stop shooting too soon. Flipside of same coin. You'll get some cheap kills in HC but you'll live when you should have died in core because of 5 or 6 shots at some ranges to kill. Which is harder doesn't really have an answer.
+Jaden Devonish Its still more realistic than core where someone can tank a grenade point blank or survive being on fire then heal back to normal. Core is way easier than hardcore.
Ace, I’m an older player (53 years old) who loves call of duty. Been playing since the very first call of duty. I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you very much for all the videos you make. I’ve watched several other videos from guys who are making them but without a doubt yours are the most informative and unbiased and just plain very helpful. Thanks again and keep up the great work. Sgtstanley1964.
Lester Stanley Thats awesome man. Not too many older cod players. Im a 30 year old cod player myself and even tho im younger not a lot of people my age still playing cod or other games regularly. I been playing cod lightly from cod 1 as well but mostly since mw2.
Exactly why I play hardcore I can actually kill people because I almost always hit my first shot and I can hit people with better long range guns once and kill them
Core has training wheels. Mini map with stim shot. Thats all I ever see. And Reviews on how to improve the mini map. I feel the mini map should be earned. Once again another solid review. I enjoy the vids. Keep ‘em coming🙌🏻
I actually agree with everything you talked about in the video. I'm a hardcore player and have been one for several years now and will never return to core again. However, I in fact started out as a core player for several years before I switched to hardcore, so I have serious insight on both game modes. I can personally say that if you play hardcore you can definitely take out multiples of enemies with ease where as in core you can easily be taken out by multiple enemies. Core is better for one on one engagement and hardcore is better for one vs. Multiple, which means you have to be precise and be able to snap on targets way quicker and steadier than in core. And as for the part about not being able to evade most fights in hardcore, that is FALSE. I am able to successfully evade at least 70 to 80 percent of all fights when I'm at a disadvantage and need to run and find cover. It is hard to do but when use to it, very possible. There is a way stronger learning curve in hardcore than in core, mainly because most people like to act stupid and have a lot of opportunities to screw around in core vs. Hardcore. There is ZERO room for error in hardcore and plenty for core, BOTTOM LINE. Until you've ACTUALLY played both core AND hardcore steadily for several years Ace, don't say we have a superiority complex, we just know the skill it takes in both modes. Don't forget that almost all Call of Duty players start out in core since most fps online games promote core modes the most. So if anyone has the say so about which takes more skill or is the pro mode, it's HARDCORE PLAYERS
I agree it takes more skill in HC. I’m playing this MW 2019 and look at how bad everyone is doing with no mini map and crying because the TTK is too fast. I literally played a game of core yesterday because I needed 25 throwing knife kills. Got that challenge done in 1 game on shoot house and went positive team won and I didn’t shoot 1 bullet. I was laughing after the game and was like wow is core this easy. Went to play more core to try it out and asked the kids in the lobby what’s the best core gun they said M4 so I used that and almost got a nuke on hackney yard. You can’t kill teammates you have the screen filled with info to help you out like a kill cam lol. Idk to me core is just about using the best gun whereas HC is pure skill and no room for error. Just my opinion and to be honest I see more camping in core on this game and everyone is using the same gun. I haven’t played core in years because it’s too boring with when every enemy is using meta weapons. If you’re a scrub HC will expose you in second. Again just my opinion but I agree with you
Honestly I feel to be good at hardcore you need to be a smarter player. I play both and in core I find that I can mindlessly play and still pull of a good score.
I don't play core because its stupid how you can empty a clip in someone and they still keep running. HC double tap to the chest, they are gone. its more real.
This is the main argument I see, i feel like there is more depth to core tho you have to weigh gun stats vs play style but with hordcore you can do fine with any automatic
TheXclusiveAce I totally agree with you on this, I started playing COD in MW2 and I've seen a LOT of players act that way. Sometimes they will play core, do bad, b!tch about lag all match and before rage quitting or backing out of the lobby say something like "I'm going back to hardcore where I don't get hit markers all day". lol
Completely agree with you Ace. There's definitely a balance between skills in the modes. HC modes i tend to not rush around as much because of my positioning skill. Core? you rarely see me in one place for more than a second! ;) i'm one of those players that plays core 99% of the time, BUT i have no problem hopping on some HC to go for some camo's or just to have some fun. great video overall. :)
Movement, accuracy, reaction time, and tactical awareness are more important in HC than core. I'd say HC requires more of the skills important in it than core requires for the skills that see important in core. But essentially they take the same amount of skill it is just different in what skills are needed.
personally and honestly only skill core players really have over hardcore in general is accuracy like you said and that's why I will play core to make sure I keep my shots on target but I feel you didn't make enough of a point about the HUD bc it makes the game so much easier and I've seen so many times on your channel where just bc of it you don't get shot in the back even though 1 sec before you had no clue a guy was there. and hc makes uavs actually worth it... (until shot down lol) it's not that core is lower or takes more or less skill... it's all the advantages like HUD or even a kill cam that don't make core as fun. maybe if they did mid core lol or something where it kept the health and damage the same but took away HUD and kill cam we might just have a sweet game mode.
Surprised you didn't also mention there's no killcam, although it will show you which direction you died from, when talking about the HUD & killing teammates. I've played a lot of both, really depends the game. Both have their place to me.
Ace, i was actually playing hardcore this morning to get the stock attachment for my BAL (btw its super easy to do with gungho). I think both modes require some of the same skills and some different skills and I really agree with your evaluation.
TheXclusiveAce Haha...i've seen the exact opposite....core players bragging about there aiming skills and criticizing hardcore players for playing HC saying that are noobs and skill-less. Nevertheless, when they are asked to join a HC game they refuse giving as an excuse that it will have an effect on there K/D ratio. My opinion, i play a good amount of HC games and i think core takes more skills. Most of the skills needed in HC you can learn them by playing core but not the opposite.
Hardcore players are better overall players because you have to deal with friendly fire. Core play allows every player to shoot through one another and concentrate fire to kill opponents. This is something you see in pro tournaments and my take is that professional players should always play hardcore so they have to play with the risk of friendly fire.
Hardcore: good reflex, tunnel vision, know enemy positioning, good hearing, iq, good momentum, avoid gun battles if necessary, avoid going to same place of death as before and learn to flank, slow perks :flak jacket etc and fast sensitivity Core: good accuracy, situational awareness, good mini map iq, strong attachment’s (damage, range), strong ammo, good momentum, good tacticals, scavenger necessity, extended clips, fast perks: fast hands etc , strong weapons and slow sensitivity
In HC wins the player who aim faster and react faster! In core wins the player who plays SMG with fastfire or something like that! Best game to see that is BO3. In Core 99% play Vesper, VMP or KN44 with fastfire. You will have no chance if you play LMG or Sniper! In HC you can see all weapons!
I want to say thankyou for the input you provided. A lot of what you brought up is true to fact. Knowing maps, positioning, when to and when not to shoot. I would like to add that I think most h ardcore players are not that egotistical but we appreciate a more delicate approach to killing. I don't consider myself a pro but have played on great teams winning matches 75-0 in previous cods. I think core players don't really worry about getting shot because like you said, they can evade, heal, then try to go face to face in a gunfight. I think the Hud in core is a crutch to core players along with the kill cam to know where to go back to since it replays the killers position. That you didn't really mention. Other than that you are pretty much spot on
Pretty good video. As a HC player i tend to agree with most of what you said. I play as a rusher/clear out and do fairly well in HC, but in core my KD is far better if I'm not working on headshots etc. My biggest issue is rushing a route to get behind the enemy and you may get that first and second kill but it's either lack of bullets or to many enemies that get you killed where as in HC you can get that triple or more. Aside from camping I find HC far less annoying.
I think one key skill that you could have elaborated more on is instince. As a lifetime CoD HC player there is nothing more important. This is also a skill that requires the player to retain a TON of knowledge and adapt on the fly based on how the game is playing out. If you combine that with: reaction speed (imo), first shot accuracy, no HUD, no ammo gauge, etc. The player has to be much more reliant on self efficiency than when you all all of those resources to work with. FWIW, my interpretation of what you said is "HC needs high level skill for in a few areas. Core needs all around skill, but really just being able to connect on multiple shots in a row." In a way I think you kind of countered your own argument. For the record, I dont think I'm a god for playing HC, BUT I do think it is the more advanced gameplay and more heavily depends on the player rather than the resources.
This is a great unbiased comparative review. I play both Core and Hardcore, but I ultimately enjoy HC over Core. Not because I am just better at HC, but simply due to how much more team oriented hardcore is. Having a team that can communicate will almost always change the outcome of any HC game mode. It can be argued that Core requires the same ammount of teamplay, but in all the years of my gaming. That is what ive always experienced. When I first log on, I play a few games of core and once I feel as if my Accuracy (Consistent accuracy) is on point, ill swap to HC and joing up with my friends. Another HUGE reason that I enjoy in HC, is being able to use a weapon that I enjoy. Not because it's "the best", but becausd the way it handles and feels. In Core, you're almost always limited to certain guns/varients due to the significance of TTK.
3:51 everyone in a military career would disagree with you there. I play hardcore, because it’s way more realistic than core. You’re not continuing a fight after taking 6 7.62x39 to the chest like in core..
thegatesofsleep I’m in the military and I agree with him because it’s a game. It’s ridiculous in Hardcore that you can snipe someone with a pistol because that is definitely unrealistic
I play both (mostly hardcore) and consider myself pretty good. CORE takes more skill. Period. Plus, there's no gunskill in noob tubes and na45s (which is what I find most hardcore dom and hardcore snd flooded with). Again, I play mostly hardcore and find it to be a mostly no gunskill scene. I wish it wasn't.
I do very well and top of lobbies in hardcore. I do descent in core. My failure with core is that it takes more bullets on target to kill than in hardcore so I can't get those awesome obscure jump shots I rely on in hardcore. I think it takes different sets of skills for each mode.
I totally agree, as a hardcore player, that the skill to successfully hit serveral shots in a row on a target isn't that necessary, which can cause a deficit when entering a core match to one's disadvandce. And since the PS3 version doesn't offer all gamemodes on hardcore, one has to switch to core for some gamemodes. A sugar coating effect to hide a lack of self-worth or self-esteem hasn't entered my subconcious by playing only hardcore, which would be noticeable by showing behavior patterns like a Kayne West or practicing a tribe-mentality ritual in a hardcore player group by endorsing that fallacious delusion to feel superior. One either is superior in a certain field or isn't. Just like rappers that keep saying "I am the best", when objective reality isn't reflecting that. Actions speak louder then words. "Taten sprechen lauter als Worte.".
I'm a serious hardcore player and I think core is harder because of having to hold on target longer and that if you don't get your kill your target can regen. I also like this about hardcore that you have to pick your moments because you can kill teammates, you don't know where you stand all the time (i.e. hud), and that you can't just run into the Frey because you won't regen so if you take damage and don't get killed even a fall or jump might finish you off. I definately don't feel superior though because I think it's easier for someone who plays a lot of core to learn hardcore then a hardcore player to play core.
The only reason that I play hardcore is that my connection cannot handle a gunfight in real time, so I have to play tactically and avoid gunfights at all. The best way to do that is to play the game mode that doesn't require gunfights.
I see the superiority complex a lot from fellow hardcore players . I play both core and hardcore just cause I like to play . Glad you explained the differences I've always gotten it . Just have fun
As a hardcore player i fully agree with you I'm not the best core player in fact I'm rubbish hardcore enables me to play a better game than core so i think it's really what suits the individual to get the best in game experience
Ok, here is the best way to define between the 2. Core mode is like bumper bowling when we were kids. You’re kinda bowling, but you’re kinda not. All the kill streaks I see online, are always Core.
I totally agree with yourcomments. I have played HC since COD4. It use to be more tactical but now it is a lot more like core as far as the mad rush. I have noticed over the years that a lot of times perks and scorestreaks are not usable in HC. Very seldom do I use high scorestreaks or blast suppressor/toughness.
Im a hardcore player normally but i have to do more core since my clans doin gamebattles i can do jut aswell in core as i do in hardcore but i cant do it consistantly wih makes a good player so i dont talk smack
Only a handful of guns are 1 shot kills (always) in HC. Most at close range, but longer range it's usually two. Which makes HC more fun with weapon variety, as they are most on an even playing field. If you try rushing in HC with no health regeneration it's not as easy as you may think. Ace states it pretty well. I play HC because I have a lag disadvantage most of the time. That makes winning a head to head gun fight in Core usually impossible, unless they have terrible aim, lol. I've gotten DNA bombs in Core and went on many long kill streaks, much longer than my HC ones. If you lag quite often I find being a smart player in HC can make it possible to do well.
I see comments have started back up with this. I play hardcore because I'm great with getting the drop on people but terrible with staying on target. My KD went up 25% but more importantly I have more fun. Having to be careful not to shoot your teammates and having to worry about what scorestreaks to use does make it more difficult.
LoL no core does for sure because all you have to do is press the trigger you don't have to aim I'm a core player and I go to hardcore and I'll get 30 kills all day
I agree with almost everything you say. Except that i think you need better reactions in Hardcore.. If you dont react fast in that 1v1 gun fight you are dead. Dont get me wrong im a core player but i played a few games in Hardcore in my life and thats one thing that i thought really sticked out. On the other Hand the Mark of J and pwnstarz have insane aim but try get them up against pro players. They have no Chance at all. Aim is only important against people that dont know exactly what they are doing.. Great video bud
I'm a hardcore player. I agree that you really don't need that much accuracy on hc. But afterall, it's not the game mode that determines your a good or skilled player. Say a sniper camping on core tdm will get a good kd but doesn't mean he's more skillful then a rusher on hc even the rusher dies more.. And if your good at video games you will be good at both you just need time to adjust to different mode. But if you suck you might get some lucky shots on hc but overall you still get wooped because there are skilled and smart hc players.. So if you play core, it doesn't mean that your more skillful. It depends on how good you are at core. If your a really average player at core, there's no way you become top notch player at hc just because hc "need less skill".
But you need more accuracy to get the shot in first.... Show me one person who is really good at snapping on the target. That won't be good at sticking on target... This guy is a core player very biased..
I started out only playing HC, (COD4) but I always respected Core players. It's different, I didn't like that I was constantly melted by guns I hadn't unlocked yet, or the guns I was trying to level up weren't anywhere near as good as the best guns you'd go against in core, HC made that pretty much irrelevant. I pretty much only play core now, I'm tired of team killing, or losers that join just to flashbang/stun grenade teammates, or assholes that deliberately find you to kill you off a streak. If that didn't happen, I'd probably still only be playing HC. I only play HC to level guns, and play core for fun.
The normal time to kill in most FPS games is usually ridiculous. Hardcore just feels right to me.. It would be a nightmare in real life if you had to dump 2/3s of your mag into every target to drop them. In my opinion, the margin for error in core is much larger than in hardcore. Peak a corner in core - get hit a few times and live to step back and rethink your next move; do the same thing in hardcore and you're liable to catch an instant fade..
Great video. I am a player that enjoys hardcore game modes. Not because ones requires more skill then the other. But I really like using a variety of weapons, and I feel that in hardcore all the guns a pretty much balanced whereas in core you have some that just dominate regardless. For example only in hardcore can a atlas 45 beat out an asm1 or BAL. I think each game mode has its own skill level that's required but I just prefer hardcore game modes for more weapon balance and just a slight challenge. Since I do believe hardcore requires a lot of map knowledge.
irule2000forever you just proved my point i shouldn't be getting challenged by a guy who runs around with nothing but a pistol or by a guy who uses a SMG and cross map me with it
I think hardcore takes less skill to play. Faster reaction speed =/= skill. yeah your first shot hit, but can you follow through? that's what makes the two modes different imo. The first cod I played and enjoyed was MW2019, and I started with hardcore because I wanted to learn the game without the interface. I play core now, because I feel like while the TTK isn't that long, it's still enough for you to play honest. Hardcore is a pretty dishonest mode.
I play hardcore mostly. It's way easier than core. It takes more smarts and less gun skill to beat other hardcore players. In core you need to land 200 to 300 percent more shots to kill and UAV reveals your location when you shoot were as hardcore rarely has a minimap up at all. Not a rebuttal. I agree with you.
I stopped playing core for 1 reason mainly. And that’s the BS of me shooting enemies in core first but end up dying anyway somehow. In HC you don’t have that crap. 99% of the time it’s whoever shoots first kills first, like it supposed to be. And 2nd reason it’s you don’t have the constant minimap. Which is good because it gives you the feeling that you need to earn that UAV/Minimap. Right now in WW2 we can’t have silencers on our AR’s so this way I can play with AR’s and not worry about showing up on the radar, while rushing in the enemy spawn. So just these 2 reasons alone make’s HC IMO way more enjoyable! Plus they’re soon introducing ricochet mode so no more kicks if you kill an teammate by accident.
I normally don't leave comments, but this is the video I've been waiting on someone to do. My favorite game mode is Dom core the only reason I would play in hardcore is if I need quick kills to unlock an attachment. I don't like playing HC because you have guys that just sit back and tube or use the NA45, or you get the idiot that team kills you on purpose, or while you are maybe one kill away from your streaks a teammate walks in front of you and you get kicked. Your whole game style has to change, you have to wear flax jacket and a trophy just to survive long enough to get shot in the back by someone camping in a corner.
Chris Keri yeah tubes and trolls do suck but that doesn't happen in every lobby or anything. Both problems tend to self-correct bc those players get kicked.
Chris Keri It's all about your positioning, I never run Flak Jacket in Hardcore. In Hardcore the Flak Jacket may not save you anyway because of the lower health level.
smoke a blunt, throw some turtle beaches on and play hardcore search and destroy. its like virtual reality. especially when you have good teammates on your side to call out positions and assist you while you try to plant or defuse a bomb. you have to constantly be aware of your surroundings and pay close attention to all the sounds of the game and where they are coming from. its amazing. ps. sorry for punctuations i was rambling
I tend to score higher on core but get more kills on hardcore. Since it takes multiple shots to kill in core I get a lot of assists and that pumps the score up. And because it does take multiple shots to kill I rush around a lot more on core. Killing teammates in hardcore is a problem. And I usually kill at least one per game. I find that having the kill replay in core to very helpful.
I play both core and hardcore and the truth is neither modes require more skill then the other. I enjoy the realism of hc and the regeneration of core which neither makes you a better player then the other just makes you hone in on different skill sets. Playing core will help you learn the maps , reading the radar , spawns , running and guning ect , playing hc will help you learn to be more patience , and not to rely on radar , pre aiming , and positioning ect. Neither game mode is easier to get kills , yes hardcore takes way less shots but if you think spraying everywhere will get you kills any decent cod player will kill you easily , and yes core has regeneration which isn't unfair because everyone has it or unrealistic because its a video game where anything is possible. Trying to say any game mode requires more skill then the other is ridiculous. Playing cod online or any online game just takes practice the more you play the better you will get especially by switching up game modes and finding out what your good at and not good at and learn from it and to remember to have fun and play what ever game mode ya want.
Alright guys here is my thoughts... I prefer Hardcore simply because I hate landing a head shot or upper chest shot and then the enemy shooting me once with a shotgun or lmg and kicking me off of target then winning the gunfight. If I shoot first and I hit you in a vital are, you should die. Now In BLOPS 3 I liked core better than I have in the past, but in all cods and Battlefield I have always preferred hardcore. One other thing I like is that one mag can spray down multiple enemies. In BLOPS 2, I got a couple 4-5 man kills in one mag of an assault rife just because they were grouped up all facing one way and i was flanking. I will admit I cannot do this in core. they have too much health and too much longer to react. In core, I do better with a knife than a gun when it comes to multi-kills, even though knives are less reliable.
I agree that some HC players think their shit dont stink. I play HC but dont think this. The hardest thing i find in core is getting consecutive shots (aiming) on target. And i have full respect for players that can do it. Both modes need skill, and like you said they need different skills. I think a player going from Core to HC would do better than a player going from HC to Core.
I'm a 100% hardcore player but I completely agree with your assessment. I used to be one of the hardcore players who thought if you didn't play HC, you were a noob. If wasn't until much later in my COD career, I had a change of heart. Playing with some buddies who only played core changed my mind. You're right, both take a lot of skill to be good... Just a different kind of skill. One thing I will mention, I believe it's much easier for a HC player to make the transition to core, than a core player to make the transition to HC. I can play core and still do pretty good, while buddies of mine who only play core, get completely demolished. Just from my experience anyway. Good video though!
I play both on hardcore I practically get all of my score streaks every game or at least 2 while in core I get the first one at least every game and I'll get all of them maybe once every 10 games hardcore to me is alot easier but I have ridiculously fast reflexes and I play smart
I remember Ghosts getting vilified during its life cycle as catering towards spray-and-pray noobs because of its fast TTK, which I always felt was unjustified since quick TTK is the foundation of HC play anyways. (For the record, I never felt Ghosts had overblown TTK.) Good vid, Ace.
i only play hardcore because of the mean lag in cod..they need to bring back ricochet though and get rid of noobtubes in hardcore..then more people would like hardcore..the main difference between core and hardcore is that in core you need better accuracy and hardcore you need to get your shot off first..if you're a rusher you also need better map awareness in hardcore since there's no hud and no kill cam..people camp in core and hardcore but that's just cod and that will never change
I play hardcore because it eliminates the *meta* that nearly every COD player uses. I don't wanna deal with bunny hopping, butt sliding kar98 players in core where I know my headshot on that sweat should of dropped him. But one shot me to the chest with a quick turn around. Even odds, fun gameplay, hilarious accidental team kill, no meta = *HARD CORE* ❤
I can do well just hip firing with the AK12 wrecker and Ameli Whale Horn in Hardcore. I will say hardcore doesn't need very good aim, but having no mini map requires better knowledge of the map.
I play both and learn to play differently for each. I play all types of game modes on both Hardcore and Core modes. I pick up skills that overall show up in any match I’m in. I’ve noticed people play hardcore domination to feel more like a boss by flanking and spawn trapping. Good players should be able to jump into either version and still play a good match.
Learned something new today. Thank you. I just enjoy HC objective game play over core. It’s just more enjoyable. Didn’t know there were people out there who have a weird power trip being the HC is far greater than core.
Good vid and I liked the balanced opinion. I play HC simply bc to me it is easier. You’re right - the one shot kill does make it easier and spraying does have an effect. Where as in core it takes just a bit more to get the kill.
I think ACE missed one key point here. I play Hardcore bc I play a tactical game that I want to be as real as possible. I feel that hardcore is a little closer to reality. Example: it does not take 4-7 shots to the chest to kill someone but in hardcore its 2-3 shots with a M4 that is alil more accurate. Yes some guns are 1 shot kills but not most and those are high caliber rounds so those cause alot of damage. Secondly no mini map. Too many players in Core run around and have to have the mini map or get trashed on. You have to use more senses and strategy to figure out where people are coming from,flanking, and positioning etc. Those are really the only big reasons why I play hardcore, “REALiSM”. I dont think that hard core players are more skilled either just a focus on a different set of skills than core. Which ever fits your playing style. I play Modern warfare mainly bc they are more REAL/Modern as well. Sorry but hard to explain this fully without explaining it in length. Love the videos keep up the outstanding work ACE always look forward to your in depth analysis!!!!!
I've played my fair share of all game modes, hardcore was fun for me because I could be fast and play alone. Slowed things down a bit and used my map knowledge to play more defensively in core modes and usually ran with a party. Good cod players understood the differences and played both well. Core imo is much better suited for tournament play. You'd hate to watch a match over in less than a minute or two.
you forgot the kill streaks, try calling in a bombing run without killing your teamates
That can't even be helped sometimes
Alpha J It's the reason why I don't play Hardcore. Every-single-time I play, my kill streaks will kill teammates, and I get booted from the game. If there was no team killing, I would actually play it more, but the only way you can play, is if you use non-lethal kill streaks, and that gets boring to me. Oh, and I also feel you lose a sense of nuance to the individual guns abilities, as everything kills in about one bullet.
I know the feel, been kicked out of so many games when I almost had a paladin
I was on a vicious streak in hardcore and I had bombing run on all through the streak didnt kill 1 teamate and called it in and killed everyone (7) and 3 were teamates and I got kicked out....so I play core now
Try calling in a bombing run and actually getting a kill.
Hardcore Players Need: fast reaction time, great instincts (because there is no mini map), great awareness (you can’t shoot teammates more than 3 times by accident or you will be kicked from game), HC players need to learn how to play with red blood on their screen (if they get shot and survive the blood doesn’t go away).
Core Players Need: great constant aim (because it takes 10 bullets to kill someone), learn which is the best gun to use (the best gun usually wins in core), learn how to use mini map (because it’s always available).
I played core on IW, but in WW2 I play hardcore. I like HC play style in WW2.
Yeah, I normally play core but the lag compensation on WW2 was so frustrating I tried HC, and it was so much sharper. As long as you're fast at getting your aim on target you can do well. But earning killstreaks is harder, especially with no health regen. One random lucky shot or nade from someone and you're done. At least in core you have a chance to react/recover.
Makes me laugh about the aim bullshit... Hc you have to have a better skill at aiming to get the bullet in first... In core you can have slower aim but still win the gun fight... He talking shit
Yeah that's snap aim. Core has harder aiming in general since you have to keep it on target with recoil which is super difficult. Especially when you're flinching from return fire.
Snap aim has to be better in hardcore which is being able to move your crosshair (which you don't have, so you gotta have a good feel for where the center of the screen is) onto a target very fast and precise.
@@SpyWhoLovedHimself core aiming is easy, it’s easy to hit shots(multiple consecutive shots)😭😭. There’s a definite lag in core too, tell me how a dude can take 20 shots and turn around and kill someone in 5 shots 😅😂.... bro no debate hc takes more skill, especially if you quickscope and out do “sprayers” . Core is literally the practice mode 😅😂
when u have shit mouse hardcore is easier
I started playing hardcore, when I first played COD, because it sounded more interesting to me. In BO2 I was working on challenges including gamemodes and began playing a LOT of core.
I now enjoy both, but moving over to core I found the superiority complex you are talking about in reverse. I think part of what creates the superiority complex you are talking about is the flack hardcore gets from core players. I got a lot of hardcore is for noobs. Hardcore requires no skill, you can just spray and pray. Go back to hardcore where you belong. While that is true to a point, those who spray are usually not very good. Those that do good at hardcore are those who can snap on to target quickly and accurately. While core requires sustained accuracy hardcore requires quick accuracy. It is a lot more than just positioning. I really disagree that core requires a more balanced skill set. Playing both I see that they are both challenging in their own ways. Neither is better than the other, they are just different.
While playing with clan mates I have seen Hardcore players try to play core and struggle. I have also seen many Core players try to play Hardcore and struggle as well. These are people that play well in core and struggle to get a handful of kills in hardcore. They are very different mind sets. When I run in core, I have the hud to help me know where to expect enemies from, when I run in hardcore I have to be more aware of my surroundings. I have to watch every direction, and check corners more carefully. This isn't because hardcore is harder but because it is a totally different play style.
I really think both sides should stop trying to convince the other that they are better. That theirs is the more difficult mode to play. That you are somehow a better COD player if you play Core/Hardcore. Both are fun and both are challenging. What makes them great is that they are challenging in different ways. It is a good thing that they are different, it makes it more interesting that way. I would not want to see a COD without hardcore, likewise I would not want to see a COD without core. Although I would like to see them rotate some of the gamemodes into hardcore. Put CTF in hardcore for a couple weeks, then replace it with hardpoint or something, and so on.
Sorry this was so long, but I have heard so much of the reverse, that just to hear you elude to it as well, put me back in those days of getting razzed by "The True COD Players"(Core players).
Probably the best explanation I've ever read in comparing the two modes. Very well said. I really wish they would show HC players some more love with adding in more game modes like CTF or even a HC Ground War rotated in and out if need be. I've played both modes since the original MW came out and I always lean towards HC more just because I prefer the play style. I've done really well in both modes and also done absolutely terrible in both modes.
Idk about that in HC a bad aimer can still kill a pro aimer from behind even if they miss their first shot. All they have to do is keep spraying and hopefully land 1 shot. In core a bad aimer won't be able to do that to a good aimer unless they are lucky because a good aimer has a chance to turn around and hit all their shots and kill you.
@@hoemie2587 right which makes hardcore harder in this regard. No matter how good you are in core if someone catches you from behind, that's it, you're dead. You don't get the luxury of having a bunch of health to react and turn around. HC is more difficult than core in the aspect of it takes nothing to die. Sure you can get a bunch of kills rather easily if and only if you have great positional awareness, know the map like the back of your hand, have better positioning, and have quick reflexes. Other than that though yea no it's the easiest mode in cod lol. What makes core hard is the meta and landing consecutive shots.
@@hoemie2587 ppl don't move as freely in HC to be behind you half the time it's more like a counter strike flow face to face snap shots down hallways and around corners wait till you and a enemy and snapping out of door ways getting shots off at each other
Hardcore : The fastest wins
Core : M4 and SMG wins
Pretty much.
@@dev1on thats a good thing about hardcore, you can use more variety of guns, for the mw, hardcore ak is seen as the best gun, but you would use that for core
I use both and i’m still ass lol
@@psychoticrunner5901 Semi-Auto Scar-H makes a really good battle rifle in hardcore
Yes defonitely
This is an old video now but I want to post my thoughts. I prefer hardcore because I feel that the slight lag and hit detection ruins core sometimes. I have gotten in gun fights in core that I should of won and I lost them because a middle hit didn't register. What probably happens is the enemy strafes but it doesn't register that on my side. I have also seen my shot get hit markers when I am not even shooting on the enemy. In hardcore this doesn't happen usually because it is about the first shot reaction. Also I don't believe in the minimap because it requires you to use a silencer. You should only have minimap when you get a UAV.
Ryu0rKen yes but in hardcore, if you're lagging it's the first couple bullets that do nothing and in a game where it only takes 1 to kill, lag make hardcore more unplayable than core. That's just me tho. In core there are too many other factors that come into play for time to kill. That is why you only hear people complain about, "lag compensation" and "people get punished for being host or having a good connection" that play core. Hardcore players know that is not true. If your connection is good in HC, you will do good, if you're host in HC, you will do incredible. :)
I love how you don't bother trying to capture the objective most of the time and instead worry about taking out the other team.
@Lord-Noob-Tuber W/L is better than K/D 🤷🏿
Yeah people dont know how to play objective games.
@@WhiteoutMonster or it because they aren’t they knew in the team that play objective all game most ppl play it by capping the first obj then going to a camp spot or to b pick of some ppl for a while then cap some more
@@jaklittle8173 Jesus man.
@@wtffBryan that’s how u know if u are a real team player. K/D core players just want all the glory
I’ve found I’m much better at landing my first shot accurately and BEFORE the other player, rather than landing consecutive shots accurately, so I prefer hc.
I also prefer hc because it’s really nice to not show up on the radar unless the enemy has a UAV, and it’s super rewarding getting UAV’s and helping your team.
You can argue either way. "Hardcore is harder because you need quicker reflexes" and the other side of it, "Core is harder because you have to keep your aim on target longer" Lets just be honest.. it's pretty much the same. Shitty players play both. Great players play both.
cxckygaming Well said.
+cxckygaming
Pretty much this. Just play whatever mode you have more fun in.
Playing hardcore made me a better player in COD.
Nailed it, like a headshot.
"Aim doesn't matter in Hardcore; you can spray in their general direction and you''ll get the kill." _Proceeds to miss an entire clip at a guy who has no idea he's there._ Hardcore is much more difficult all around; Core players just refuse to admit it. I play both: Hardcore when I want to tryhard, Core when I want to relax.
I was converted to hardcore for WW2, the dealbreaker for me was that the lower time to kill balances everything better in my opinion, doesnt matter what gun someone uses when theyre almost all One Hit Kills. Plus its fun to run around with pistols and carry.
I play hardcore from a realism standpoint. While core probably requires more thumb skill; I believe hardcore requires more Brian function. Especially in knowing your surroundings and predicting movements
Man I'm so glad they went back to boots on the ground after watching this.
Thanks for the video! I am a Hardcore player and I enjoy it because it feels more realistic than core.
I've seen it from both camps being active on the CoD Forums, and even in BF as well. Core Players swear they are more highly skilled, Hardcore players claim they are more skilled.
Fact of the matter is, both modes require a certain level of skill in order to be consistently successful. What it boils down to is... what do you enjoy playing? Play what you like.. like what you play... and what others do or enjoy doing is really no business of yours.
The bragging in general over skill has diminished the fun factor of FPS shooters over the years. Just play, have a good time, be a good sport... and if you keep the mindset that you are only as good as your last game, it will help keep you humble.
Heres a guy with sense
Yip couldn't agree more!!
Not really lol
***** Not really... what? Care to elaborate?
@@NiceDrewishFella at the end of the day, core is not realistic compared to hardcore & that’s just a fact
I’ve always switched between the two game modes, but lean a lot more towards hardcore now. The reason the simply because of what you said. I think it’s a bit more challenging to play without the HUD, calling in kill streaks, and not shooting teammates. The positioning plays a huge role, and being able to successfully navigate a map, without going down is a lot more difficult. Knowing when to aim going around corners, instead of just reaction aiming in core when you see an enemy, like most people do in core. Like another comment said, M4 and SMGS win in core. Knowing when you need the tactical advantage in hardcore is key.
I love hardcore mode. Mainly because in core I hate when you throw rounds into a guy for him to turn around and still take you down.
7 years later and I still love your take on this
Camo challenges: Hardcore
Everything else: Core
😂😂😂😂shit even for camos it’s mostly core only sometimes I need HC. But in AW and BO4 HC was useful
Im a hardcore player, and while i dont look down on core, i do understand the skill sets needed to play it. Sustained accuracy is definitely a necessity in core.
Something i think many of you arnt looking at, is also the way you move. If you run a straight line, youre an easy mark in any mode, granted, but in HC, you learn little movement tricks that can really help. Ive seen people jump over my shots, drop shots, and even crouch jump over shots to avoid a headshot. Many HC players play with a high sensitivity to account for being attacked from behind, and many of the good ones can turn on you, even if you get hit markers.
There are also cheap tactics that some people use to get their kills, weather they use smoke and thermal scopes. Thats not necessarily cheap, but the way its used sure can be.
At the end of the day, do what you gotta do to get your kills, but dont think youre better if you got a lucky shot on a solid HC player.
Tactics are something i think HC needs more than core in a lot of ways. How you move, your positioning, do you maintain cover, do you have situational awareness, ect.
Some HC players reload after every kill, some like to use head glitches every chance they get.
There are things involved in hardcore play that i think some core players would never know about just because theyre not as involved or invested in a hardcore game mode.
Granted taking a bullet to the foot wont kill you, but if youve never been shot in the foot, how can you say youd still be in the fight?
Im sure there are plenty of things involved in core gameplay that i dont know much about, and ill be the first to admit that sustained accuracy can be difficult sometimes. Thats what a knife and tomahawks are for 😂
One thing i hate about core, is if i put a bullet, or 5 in your face, and youre still moving, there are problems.
2 to the chest is more realistic in hardcore, as well as not knowing exactly whats going on everywhere else on the map. Shooting teammates is a pain. You always have to listen for that grenade, cuz you dont get a big red marker in the middle of your screen, and generally speaking, hardcore players use sound to play. Its almost necessary.
I can hear the jingle of the belts on your uniform, i can hear when you aim down sights, i can hear your footsteps and know within 1 foot of where you are, and that also means i know when youre reloading, pulling a pin in a grenade. Everything.
Sound is the most useful tool in a hardcore players repertoire next to snap shot accuracy. That is an area where core players can mute their TV and still get all the necessary info they need visually.
Just my thoughts on the matter. Do what you will with the info.
Playing in Hardcore actually made me better in core.
Alien gamer You learn to lock on. The only challenge is if you go back to core you have to remember not to stop shooting too soon. Flipside of same coin. You'll get some cheap kills in HC but you'll live when you should have died in core because of 5 or 6 shots at some ranges to kill. Which is harder doesn't really have an answer.
The more realistic aspect is what has steered me to the hardcore side.
AMORPH CONCEPTZ I find that an excuse people use because they cannot land/hit continous shots in core.
Jason Stroman excuse? Who likes shooting someone 4 times, and they just keep running?
AMORPH CONCEPTZ realistic i can cross map you with a SMG in HC that's far from realistic
+Jaden Devonish Its still more realistic than core where someone can tank a grenade point blank or survive being on fire then heal back to normal. Core is way easier than hardcore.
Neither is realistic. You can shoot someone in the foot in hc and they'd die. That doesn't happen in real life buddy.
Ace, I’m an older player (53 years old) who loves call of duty. Been playing since the very first call of duty. I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you very much for all the videos you make. I’ve watched several other videos from guys who are making them but without a doubt yours are the most informative and unbiased and just plain very helpful. Thanks again and keep up the great work. Sgtstanley1964.
Lester Stanley
Thats awesome man. Not too many older cod players. Im a 30 year old cod player myself and even tho im younger not a lot of people my age still playing cod or other games regularly.
I been playing cod lightly from cod 1 as well but mostly since mw2.
Exactly why I play hardcore I can actually kill people because I almost always hit my first shot and I can hit people with better long range guns once and kill them
Core has training wheels. Mini map with stim shot. Thats all I ever see. And Reviews on how to improve the mini map. I feel the mini map should be earned.
Once again another solid review. I enjoy the vids. Keep ‘em coming🙌🏻
I actually agree with everything you talked about in the video. I'm a hardcore player and have been one for several years now and will never return to core again. However, I in fact started out as a core player for several years before I switched to hardcore, so I have serious insight on both game modes. I can personally say that if you play hardcore you can definitely take out multiples of enemies with ease where as in core you can easily be taken out by multiple enemies. Core is better for one on one engagement and hardcore is better for one vs. Multiple, which means you have to be precise and be able to snap on targets way quicker and steadier than in core. And as for the part about not being able to evade most fights in hardcore, that is FALSE. I am able to successfully evade at least 70 to 80 percent of all fights when I'm at a disadvantage and need to run and find cover. It is hard to do but when use to it, very possible. There is a way stronger learning curve in hardcore than in core, mainly because most people like to act stupid and have a lot of opportunities to screw around in core vs. Hardcore. There is ZERO room for error in hardcore and plenty for core, BOTTOM LINE. Until you've ACTUALLY played both core AND hardcore steadily for several years Ace, don't say we have a superiority complex, we just know the skill it takes in both modes. Don't forget that almost all Call of Duty players start out in core since most fps online games promote core modes the most. So if anyone has the say so about which takes more skill or is the pro mode, it's HARDCORE PLAYERS
I agree it takes more skill in HC. I’m playing this MW 2019 and look at how bad everyone is doing with no mini map and crying because the TTK is too fast. I literally played a game of core yesterday because I needed 25 throwing knife kills. Got that challenge done in 1 game on shoot house and went positive team won and I didn’t shoot 1 bullet. I was laughing after the game and was like wow is core this easy. Went to play more core to try it out and asked the kids in the lobby what’s the best core gun they said M4 so I used that and almost got a nuke on hackney yard. You can’t kill teammates you have the screen filled with info to help you out like a kill cam lol. Idk to me core is just about using the best gun whereas HC is pure skill and no room for error. Just my opinion and to be honest I see more camping in core on this game and everyone is using the same gun. I haven’t played core in years because it’s too boring with when every enemy is using meta weapons. If you’re a scrub HC will expose you in second. Again just my opinion but I agree with you
Honestly I feel to be good at hardcore you need to be a smarter player. I play both and in core I find that I can mindlessly play and still pull of a good score.
Exactly
As a core player I can agree with this
Nicely explained the differences bro. I will start playing hardcore from now on 👍
Ace I have a challenge idea.
No Perks
No Attachments
No Lethal Streaks
Just you and a gun
See if you can win an FFA that way.
That'll be interesting
I don't play core because its stupid how you can empty a clip in someone and they still keep running. HC double tap to the chest, they are gone. its more real.
And harder becuase of that exact fact
This is the main argument I see, i feel like there is more depth to core tho you have to weigh gun stats vs play style but with hordcore you can do fine with any automatic
TheXclusiveAce I totally agree with you on this, I started playing COD in MW2 and I've seen a LOT of players act that way. Sometimes they will play core, do bad, b!tch about lag all match and before rage quitting or backing out of the lobby say something like "I'm going back to hardcore where I don't get hit markers all day". lol
Completely agree with you Ace. There's definitely a balance between skills in the modes. HC modes i tend to not rush around as much because of my positioning skill. Core? you rarely see me in one place for more than a second! ;) i'm one of those players that plays core 99% of the time, BUT i have no problem hopping on some HC to go for some camo's or just to have some fun. great video overall. :)
Movement, accuracy, reaction time, and tactical awareness are more important in HC than core. I'd say HC requires more of the skills important in it than core requires for the skills that see important in core. But essentially they take the same amount of skill it is just different in what skills are needed.
personally and honestly only skill core players really have over hardcore in general is accuracy like you said and that's why I will play core to make sure I keep my shots on target but I feel you didn't make enough of a point about the HUD bc it makes the game so much easier and I've seen so many times on your channel where just bc of it you don't get shot in the back even though 1 sec before you had no clue a guy was there. and hc makes uavs actually worth it... (until shot down lol) it's not that core is lower or takes more or less skill... it's all the advantages like HUD or even a kill cam that don't make core as fun. maybe if they did mid core lol or something where it kept the health and damage the same but took away HUD and kill cam we might just have a sweet game mode.
I've seen servers like that in CoD4. They call it softcore. It's actually a lot of fun to play
solution66 as someone who prefers Core, I can agree to this
Cores too easy. Hardcore takes way more skill and you gotta be accurate in hardcore, too or your gonna lose the gunfight right away.
Surprised you didn't also mention there's no killcam, although it will show you which direction you died from, when talking about the HUD & killing teammates. I've played a lot of both, really depends the game. Both have their place to me.
I started playing hard core in bo2, and never looked back
Ace, i was actually playing hardcore this morning to get the stock attachment for my BAL (btw its super easy to do with gungho). I think both modes require some of the same skills and some different skills and I really agree with your evaluation.
TheXclusiveAce Haha...i've seen the exact opposite....core players bragging about there aiming skills and criticizing hardcore players for playing HC saying that are noobs and skill-less. Nevertheless, when they are asked to join a HC game they refuse giving as an excuse that it will have an effect on there K/D ratio. My opinion, i play a good amount of HC games and i think core takes more skills. Most of the skills needed in HC you can learn them by playing core but not the opposite.
I have a friend that says the opposite of what you said he says pros play hc Noobs are for core
@@blueyekaibaman1238 wow....answering to a comment i made 6 years ago...i don't even remember what i commented about :)
Hardcore players are better overall players because you have to deal with friendly fire. Core play allows every player to shoot through one another and concentrate fire to kill opponents. This is something you see in pro tournaments and my take is that professional players should always play hardcore so they have to play with the risk of friendly fire.
Hardcore: good reflex, tunnel vision, know enemy positioning, good hearing, iq, good momentum, avoid gun battles if necessary, avoid going to same place of death as before and learn to flank, slow perks :flak jacket etc and fast sensitivity
Core: good accuracy, situational awareness, good mini map iq, strong attachment’s (damage, range), strong ammo, good momentum, good tacticals, scavenger necessity, extended clips, fast perks: fast hands etc , strong weapons and slow sensitivity
I would like to see a core play style , where aim does matter , with ff activated , no mini map and no replays . That would be my ideal
Great video Ace, maybe compare mind sets between different game modes such as between domination and SnD
Boring bomb bay thats booms job ;)
In HC wins the player who aim faster and react faster! In core wins the player who plays SMG with fastfire or something like that! Best game to see that is BO3. In Core 99% play Vesper, VMP or KN44 with fastfire. You will have no chance if you play LMG or Sniper! In HC you can see all weapons!
You forgot that snipers and shotguns are useless in hc
Shotguns you see often on maps like combine or breach because samll maps. Sniper i agree, they are rarely in hc.
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I want to say thankyou for the input you provided. A lot of what you brought up is true to fact. Knowing maps, positioning, when to and when not to shoot. I would like to add that I think most h ardcore players are not that egotistical but we appreciate a more delicate approach to killing. I don't consider myself a pro but have played on great teams winning matches 75-0 in previous cods. I think core players don't really worry about getting shot because like you said, they can evade, heal, then try to go face to face in a gunfight. I think the Hud in core is a crutch to core players along with the kill cam to know where to go back to since it replays the killers position. That you didn't really mention. Other than that you are pretty much spot on
Pretty good video. As a HC player i tend to agree with most of what you said. I play as a rusher/clear out and do fairly well in HC, but in core my KD is far better if I'm not working on headshots etc. My biggest issue is rushing a route to get behind the enemy and you may get that first and second kill but it's either lack of bullets or to many enemies that get you killed where as in HC you can get that triple or more. Aside from camping I find HC far less annoying.
I think one key skill that you could have elaborated more on is instince. As a lifetime CoD HC player there is nothing more important. This is also a skill that requires the player to retain a TON of knowledge and adapt on the fly based on how the game is playing out. If you combine that with: reaction speed (imo), first shot accuracy, no HUD, no ammo gauge, etc. The player has to be much more reliant on self efficiency than when you all all of those resources to work with.
FWIW, my interpretation of what you said is "HC needs high level skill for in a few areas. Core needs all around skill, but really just being able to connect on multiple shots in a row." In a way I think you kind of countered your own argument.
For the record, I dont think I'm a god for playing HC, BUT I do think it is the more advanced gameplay and more heavily depends on the player rather than the resources.
This is a great unbiased comparative review. I play both Core and Hardcore, but I ultimately enjoy HC over Core. Not because I am just better at HC, but simply due to how much more team oriented hardcore is. Having a team that can communicate will almost always change the outcome of any HC game mode. It can be argued that Core requires the same ammount of teamplay, but in all the years of my gaming. That is what ive always experienced. When I first log on, I play a few games of core and once I feel as if my Accuracy (Consistent accuracy) is on point, ill swap to HC and joing up with my friends. Another HUGE reason that I enjoy in HC, is being able to use a weapon that I enjoy. Not because it's "the best", but becausd the way it handles and feels. In Core, you're almost always limited to certain guns/varients due to the significance of TTK.
3:51 everyone in a military career would disagree with you there. I play hardcore, because it’s way more realistic than core. You’re not continuing a fight after taking 6 7.62x39 to the chest like in core..
thegatesofsleep I’m in the military and I agree with him because it’s a game. It’s ridiculous in Hardcore that you can snipe someone with a pistol because that is definitely unrealistic
I play both (mostly hardcore) and consider myself pretty good. CORE takes more skill. Period. Plus, there's no gunskill in noob tubes and na45s (which is what I find most hardcore dom and hardcore snd flooded with). Again, I play mostly hardcore and find it to be a mostly no gunskill scene. I wish it wasn't.
I do very well and top of lobbies in hardcore. I do descent in core. My failure with core is that it takes more bullets on target to kill than in hardcore so I can't get those awesome obscure jump shots I rely on in hardcore. I think it takes different sets of skills for each mode.
I totally agree, as a hardcore player, that the skill to successfully hit serveral shots in a row on a target isn't that necessary, which can cause a deficit when entering a core match to one's disadvandce. And since the PS3 version doesn't offer all gamemodes on hardcore, one has to switch to core for some gamemodes. A sugar coating effect to hide a lack of self-worth or self-esteem hasn't entered my subconcious by playing only hardcore, which would be noticeable by showing behavior patterns like a Kayne West or practicing a tribe-mentality ritual in a hardcore player group by endorsing that fallacious delusion to feel superior. One either is superior in a certain field or isn't. Just like rappers that keep saying "I am the best", when objective reality isn't reflecting that. Actions speak louder then words. "Taten sprechen lauter als Worte.".
I'm a serious hardcore player and I think core is harder because of having to hold on target longer and that if you don't get your kill your target can regen. I also like this about hardcore that you have to pick your moments because you can kill teammates, you don't know where you stand all the time (i.e. hud), and that you can't just run into the Frey because you won't regen so if you take damage and don't get killed even a fall or jump might finish you off.
I definately don't feel superior though because I think it's easier for someone who plays a lot of core to learn hardcore then a hardcore player to play core.
The only reason that I play hardcore is that my connection cannot handle a gunfight in real time, so I have to play tactically and avoid gunfights at all. The best way to do that is to play the game mode that doesn't require gunfights.
I see the superiority complex a lot from fellow hardcore players . I play both core and hardcore just cause I like to play . Glad you explained the differences I've always gotten it . Just have fun
i just noticed this is advanced warfare not modern warfare
As a hardcore player i fully agree with you I'm not the best core player in fact I'm rubbish hardcore enables me to play a better game than core so i think it's really what suits the individual to get the best in game experience
Reaction time is the most important for a hardcore player. I know because im a hardcore player
Ok, here is the best way to define between the 2. Core mode is like bumper bowling when we were kids. You’re kinda bowling, but you’re kinda not. All the kill streaks I see online, are always Core.
I totally agree with yourcomments. I have played HC since COD4. It use to be more tactical but now it is a lot more like core as far as the mad rush. I have noticed over the years that a lot of times perks and scorestreaks are not usable in HC. Very seldom do I use high scorestreaks or blast suppressor/toughness.
Im a hardcore player normally but i have to do more core since my clans doin gamebattles i can do jut aswell in core as i do in hardcore but i cant do it consistantly wih makes a good player so i dont talk smack
Only a handful of guns are 1 shot kills (always) in HC. Most at close range, but longer range it's usually two. Which makes HC more fun with weapon variety, as they are most on an even playing field. If you try rushing in HC with no health regeneration it's not as easy as you may think. Ace states it pretty well. I play HC because I have a lag disadvantage most of the time. That makes winning a head to head gun fight in Core usually impossible, unless they have terrible aim, lol. I've gotten DNA bombs in Core and went on many long kill streaks, much longer than my HC ones. If you lag quite often I find being a smart player in HC can make it possible to do well.
I think you actually got that right I’m a hardcore player, it’s definitely different skills between the both
I see comments have started back up with this. I play hardcore because I'm great with getting the drop on people but terrible with staying on target. My KD went up 25% but more importantly I have more fun. Having to be careful not to shoot your teammates and having to worry about what scorestreaks to use does make it more difficult.
So what I'm hearing is....HC takes more skill.... Good game.
LoL no core does for sure because all you have to do is press the trigger you don't have to aim I'm a core player and I go to hardcore and I'll get 30 kills all day
Your hearing is broke
I agree with almost everything you say. Except that i think you need better reactions in Hardcore.. If you dont react fast in that 1v1 gun fight you are dead.
Dont get me wrong im a core player but i played a few games in Hardcore in my life and thats one thing that i thought really sticked out.
On the other Hand the Mark of J and pwnstarz have insane aim but try get them up against pro players. They have no Chance at all. Aim is only important against people that dont know exactly what they are doing..
Great video bud
I'm a hardcore player. I agree that you really don't need that much accuracy on hc. But afterall, it's not the game mode that determines your a good or skilled player. Say a sniper camping on core tdm will get a good kd but doesn't mean he's more skillful then a rusher on hc even the rusher dies more.. And if your good at video games you will be good at both you just need time to adjust to different mode. But if you suck you might get some lucky shots on hc but overall you still get wooped because there are skilled and smart hc players.. So if you play core, it doesn't mean that your more skillful. It depends on how good you are at core. If your a really average player at core, there's no way you become top notch player at hc just because hc "need less skill".
But you need more accuracy to get the shot in first.... Show me one person who is really good at snapping on the target. That won't be good at sticking on target... This guy is a core player very biased..
The pro circuit would be on hardcore if it required more skill, it doesn't require more skill so its played on core. Simple.
I started out only playing HC, (COD4) but I always respected Core players. It's different, I didn't like that I was constantly melted by guns I hadn't unlocked yet, or the guns I was trying to level up weren't anywhere near as good as the best guns you'd go against in core, HC made that pretty much irrelevant.
I pretty much only play core now, I'm tired of team killing, or losers that join just to flashbang/stun grenade teammates, or assholes that deliberately find you to kill you off a streak. If that didn't happen, I'd probably still only be playing HC. I only play HC to level guns, and play core for fun.
The normal time to kill in most FPS games is usually ridiculous. Hardcore just feels right to me.. It would be a nightmare in real life if you had to dump 2/3s of your mag into every target to drop them. In my opinion, the margin for error in core is much larger than in hardcore. Peak a corner in core - get hit a few times and live to step back and rethink your next move; do the same thing in hardcore and you're liable to catch an instant fade..
Great video. I am a player that enjoys hardcore game modes. Not because ones requires more skill then the other. But I really like using a variety of weapons, and I feel that in hardcore all the guns a pretty much balanced whereas in core you have some that just dominate regardless. For example only in hardcore can a atlas 45 beat out an asm1 or BAL. I think each game mode has its own skill level that's required but I just prefer hardcore game modes for more weapon balance and just a slight challenge. Since I do believe hardcore requires a lot of map knowledge.
irule2000forever you just proved my point i shouldn't be getting challenged by a guy who runs around with nothing but a pistol or by a guy who uses a SMG and cross map me with it
Great compare and contrast of Core and Hardcore. I prefer Hardcore. But I enjoy watching other on RUclips that play Core.
I play Hardcore and agree 110% with this.
I think hardcore takes less skill to play. Faster reaction speed =/= skill. yeah your first shot hit, but can you follow through? that's what makes the two modes different imo.
The first cod I played and enjoyed was MW2019, and I started with hardcore because I wanted to learn the game without the interface. I play core now, because I feel like while the TTK isn't that long, it's still enough for you to play honest. Hardcore is a pretty dishonest mode.
I play hardcore mostly. It's way easier than core. It takes more smarts and less gun skill to beat other hardcore players.
In core you need to land 200 to 300 percent more shots to kill and UAV reveals your location when you shoot were as hardcore rarely has a minimap up at all.
Not a rebuttal. I agree with you.
i didnt really become a "try hard" till recently but i was always above average id say i was
I respect everyone for what they decide to play I play hard core but I know I can play core if I want .
I stopped playing core for 1 reason mainly. And that’s the BS of me shooting enemies in core first but end up dying anyway somehow. In HC you don’t have that crap.
99% of the time it’s whoever shoots first kills first, like it supposed to be. And 2nd reason it’s you don’t have the constant minimap.
Which is good because it gives you the feeling that you need to earn that UAV/Minimap. Right now in WW2 we can’t have silencers on our AR’s so this way I can play with AR’s and not worry about showing up on the radar, while rushing in the enemy spawn.
So just these 2 reasons alone make’s HC IMO way more enjoyable! Plus they’re soon introducing ricochet mode so no more kicks if you kill an teammate by accident.
I normally don't leave comments, but this is the video I've been waiting on someone to do. My favorite game mode is Dom core the only reason I would play in hardcore is if I need quick kills to unlock an attachment. I don't like playing HC because you have guys that just sit back and tube or use the NA45, or you get the idiot that team kills you on purpose, or while you are maybe one kill away from your streaks a teammate walks in front of you and you get kicked. Your whole game style has to change, you have to wear flax jacket and a trophy just to survive long enough to get shot in the back by someone camping in a corner.
Chris Keri yeah tubes and trolls do suck but that doesn't happen in every lobby or anything. Both problems tend to self-correct bc those players get kicked.
Chris Keri It's all about your positioning, I never run Flak Jacket in Hardcore. In Hardcore the Flak Jacket may not save you anyway because of the lower health level.
Dave Collinsworth that's true
smoke a blunt, throw some turtle beaches on and play hardcore search and destroy. its like virtual reality. especially when you have good teammates on your side to call out positions and assist you while you try to plant or defuse a bomb. you have to constantly be aware of your surroundings and pay close attention to all the sounds of the game and where they are coming from. its amazing.
ps. sorry for punctuations i was rambling
I tend to score higher on core but get more kills on hardcore. Since it takes multiple shots to kill in core I get a lot of assists and that pumps the score up. And because it does take multiple shots to kill I rush around a lot more on core. Killing teammates in hardcore is a problem. And I usually kill at least one per game. I find that having the kill replay in core to very helpful.
This is like saying a player is good at a certain area
I play both core and hardcore and the truth is neither modes require more skill then the other. I enjoy the realism of hc and the regeneration of core which neither makes you a better player then the other just makes you hone in on different skill sets. Playing core will help you learn the maps , reading the radar , spawns , running and guning ect , playing hc will help you learn to be more patience , and not to rely on radar , pre aiming , and positioning ect. Neither game mode is easier to get kills , yes hardcore takes way less shots but if you think spraying everywhere will get you kills any decent cod player will kill you easily , and yes core has regeneration which isn't unfair because everyone has it or unrealistic because its a video game where anything is possible. Trying to say any game mode requires more skill then the other is ridiculous. Playing cod online or any online game just takes practice the more you play the better you will get especially by switching up game modes and finding out what your good at and not good at and learn from it and to remember to have fun and play what ever game mode ya want.
No minimap AND good positioning without knowing were your teammates are is the most difficult skill to develop in hardcore
Alright guys here is my thoughts... I prefer Hardcore simply because I hate landing a head shot or upper chest shot and then the enemy shooting me once with a shotgun or lmg and kicking me off of target then winning the gunfight. If I shoot first and I hit you in a vital are, you should die. Now In BLOPS 3 I liked core better than I have in the past, but in all cods and Battlefield I have always preferred hardcore. One other thing I like is that one mag can spray down multiple enemies. In BLOPS 2, I got a couple 4-5 man kills in one mag of an assault rife just because they were grouped up all facing one way and i was flanking. I will admit I cannot do this in core. they have too much health and too much longer to react. In core, I do better with a knife than a gun when it comes to multi-kills, even though knives are less reliable.
I agree that some HC players think their shit dont stink. I play HC but dont think this. The hardest thing i find in core is getting consecutive shots (aiming) on target. And i have full respect for players that can do it. Both modes need skill, and like you said they need different skills. I think a player going from Core to HC would do better than a player going from HC to Core.
I'm a 100% hardcore player but I completely agree with your assessment. I used to be one of the hardcore players who thought if you didn't play HC, you were a noob. If wasn't until much later in my COD career, I had a change of heart. Playing with some buddies who only played core changed my mind. You're right, both take a lot of skill to be good... Just a different kind of skill. One thing I will mention, I believe it's much easier for a HC player to make the transition to core, than a core player to make the transition to HC. I can play core and still do pretty good, while buddies of mine who only play core, get completely demolished. Just from my experience anyway. Good video though!
I play both on hardcore I practically get all of my score streaks every game or at least 2 while in core I get the first one at least every game and I'll get all of them maybe once every 10 games hardcore to me is alot easier but I have ridiculously fast reflexes and I play smart
If they want skill play resistance: fom, quake killzone
When my connection is up to snuff I play HC but when I'm getting that lag I'll play core
When I first started playing AW I had to play hardcore to get used to it and I use HC now to warm up before I play core.
I remember Ghosts getting vilified during its life cycle as catering towards spray-and-pray noobs because of its fast TTK, which I always felt was unjustified since quick TTK is the foundation of HC play anyways. (For the record, I never felt Ghosts had overblown TTK.) Good vid, Ace.
i only play hardcore because of the mean lag in cod..they need to bring back ricochet though and get rid of noobtubes in hardcore..then more people would like hardcore..the main difference between core and hardcore is that in core you need better accuracy and hardcore you need to get your shot off first..if you're a rusher you also need better map awareness in hardcore since there's no hud and no kill cam..people camp in core and hardcore but that's just cod and that will never change
I play hardcore because it eliminates the *meta* that nearly every COD player uses. I don't wanna deal with bunny hopping, butt sliding kar98 players in core where I know my headshot on that sweat should of dropped him. But one shot me to the chest with a quick turn around. Even odds, fun gameplay, hilarious accidental team kill, no meta = *HARD CORE* ❤
I can do well just hip firing with the AK12 wrecker and Ameli Whale Horn in Hardcore. I will say hardcore doesn't need very good aim, but having no mini map requires better knowledge of the map.
Dont see much run and gun in hardcore in any cod game. Very rare
I play both and learn to play differently for each. I play all types of game modes on both Hardcore and Core modes. I pick up skills that overall show up in any match I’m in. I’ve noticed people play hardcore domination to feel more like a boss by flanking and spawn trapping. Good players should be able to jump into either version and still play a good match.
I play hardcore and Core and have never encountered a hardcore superiority complex but that's probably just me
Learned something new today. Thank you. I just enjoy HC objective game play over core. It’s just more enjoyable. Didn’t know there were people out there who have a weird power trip being the HC is far greater than core.
Good vid and I liked the balanced opinion. I play HC simply bc to me it is easier. You’re right - the one shot kill does make it easier and spraying does have an effect. Where as in core it takes just a bit more to get the kill.
I think ACE missed one key point here. I play Hardcore bc I play a tactical game that I want to be as real as possible. I feel that hardcore is a little closer to reality. Example: it does not take 4-7 shots to the chest to kill someone but in hardcore its 2-3 shots with a M4 that is alil more accurate. Yes some guns are 1 shot kills but not most and those are high caliber rounds so those cause alot of damage. Secondly no mini map. Too many players in Core run around and have to have the mini map or get trashed on. You have to use more senses and strategy to figure out where people are coming from,flanking, and positioning etc. Those are really the only big reasons why I play hardcore, “REALiSM”. I dont think that hard core players are more skilled either just a focus on a different set of skills than core. Which ever fits your playing style. I play Modern warfare mainly bc they are more REAL/Modern as well. Sorry but hard to explain this fully without explaining it in length. Love the videos keep up the outstanding work ACE always look forward to your in depth analysis!!!!!
I've played my fair share of all game modes, hardcore was fun for me because I could be fast and play alone. Slowed things down a bit and used my map knowledge to play more defensively in core modes and usually ran with a party. Good cod players understood the differences and played both well. Core imo is much better suited for tournament play. You'd hate to watch a match over in less than a minute or two.
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