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What Was This Bishop THINKING?! w/ Jacob Imam
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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Jacob Imam and Matt Fradd read an article about a hermit in Lexington, KY that recently revealed they are a biological female who identifies as a man. The bishop knew about this at the time He took vows from the individual.
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I am not of that dicoese, and struggle as a layman to justify complaining to the bishop from NZ. But for those who feel called to do so, the following is my concern.
I am concerned at the bishop's letter where he calls a transgender hermit "he" when addressing the hermit. The reason I am concerned is it appears to bear false witness under the guise of having compassion. It seems to me that if one is compassionate, this must be born of love and humility. To live in love is to live in God as the scripture says. The scripture also says that love rejoices in the truth, so to bear false witness about a person seems to be contrary to love...
To have compassion means to bear the sufferings of another. Affirming a transgender person's gender confusion seems to contradict this.
Writing compassionately about someone requires a truthful representation of that someone, even if it requires addressing the reality of their sufferings. This can be very hard and very painful to do, but it is necessary to wrestle through their painful reality to represent their burdens well. In doing so, you share in their struggles they face every day, bearing their burdens and suffering with them through your writing. This is true compassion.
To affirm their confusion is to avoid their struggle, deserting them, leaving them unsupported and making it impossible to truly love and be authentically compassionate on them. To affirm their delusions is a lie and to present one's self as being compassionate in doing so seems also to bear false witness. Affirming another's delusion is the avoidance of suffering with them, it is the avoidance of compassion.
A hermit normally withdraws from the world, rather than getting involved in the entertainment industry.
This is my bishop. I have lots of emotional scars from his leadership, and at one point had to flee the diocese for my own well being. This is the battle we fight every day. Please pray for the Lexington diocese.
Worse than Linz. Almost. Horrible bishops.
Sorry you have him as your Bishop.
@@kemmow25 my bishop is even worse… I live in Rome. God, deliver us from the evil one!
@@LorenzoLozziGallo-rg8bfare you referring to Pope Francis?
@@tylerf3369 I’m thinking of Bergoglio.
This is my bishop. I have been meaning to write him a letter asking him to rescind his statement and reassert the truth about the sexes. I've been hesitant to, because I'm a coward. I'm going to write to him this week.
I was going to add details in this comment about how bad of a bishop he is, but it was quickly turning into detraction, and I do not wish to publicly slander my shepherd. All I will say he is very obviously a progressive. Please pray for our bishop and our diocese.
Dear,
Tell him for the sake of his soul. For love of our faith and church.
For you yourself have to answer to Jesus as to why you as a lay person stayed silent in the face of scandal. Fiat!
Please write that letter. We have to hold our leaders accountable.
Bro, go tell him to his face. Go to some public event where you can meet him face to face. Video tape it. Letters won't do anything.
@@Cooperatores_Veritatisbad advice
I believe we can say «it hurts» to our shepherd. We cannot command, but as part of body we’re called to say that «this hurt»
A hermit that does community theatre? 😂
Yes a great point made. Most hermits don't go around in the world in the world being all in the open.
Perhaps they are a hermit because they don't want a job.
Sounds like a Monty Python skit, even down to the transgendered nonsense.
The gender bleeps are so dystopian 😭😭
I’m confused what are they really saying when it quacks and says gender?
@@jeanne8817 The correct gender pronoun of the hermit under discussion.
@@SuperZebezian Thanks. I was slow on the uptake too. Dystopian? Absolutely.
The censorship of this is dumb
@@briancollins515 Unfortunately, RUclips’s TOS can penalize them if they speak the uncensored truth.
This is very relevant to my life. I was transgender before Jesus Christ saved me. I detransitioned because I was considering religious life, and I knew that wasn't possible as a trans person. I am a self disciplined "hermit" and I have only left my home a couple of times this year. I pray, but it's never enough for our Lord. Only when I am with Him forever will I be able to dedicate myself to Him entirely.
@trollsneedhugs I was born male, but I've felt called to womanhood and holiness since I was 12yo. I'm 40 now and I desperately want to be a nun. It doesn't go away.
This is not surprising from this bishop. I was in Lexington not too long ago and was scandalized to see pro gay propaganda on the website of a beautiful church I was considering popping into. Upon further inspection on their website I found a robust LGBT ministry that clearly was not going the right direction, including things such as a poem to “Our Lady of Pride”. Absolutely horrifying.
I can assure you the rest of the Diocese is scandalized and horrified by that. Our bishop publicly denounced us for protesting over that. 😢
Pray for the Priests and all the people of that Diocese. Hopefully God will open their eyes so that their blind Shepherd will not lead them into a pit.
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The bishop needs to pray harder for vocations in his diocese it seems. How sad 😢
Some bishops are very much lost sheep themselves. Even in advanced age. The best thing that can be done is to pray for his soul, and for those he shepards as we’re called to do for all brethren. Time and time again, this bishop in particular seems very intent in shepherding in a way that grieves the Holy Spirit. For various reasons, we don’t love admitting it, but a pattern of behavior speaks volumes about someone’s state of mind/true beliefs. I pray his heart is pierced by the sword of Truth Himself before too late.
This is what many of us middle of the road catholics can't understand! Why Does Pope Francis Not Remove this Heretical Bishop, and only Conservative Bishops are Reprimanded? This is the Hypocrisy of Pope Francis that is hard for most of us who aspire fidelity to the church to accept!
As someone who is in RCIA it is real hard for me to consider the Catholic Church. Do I really want to yoke myself to this? I am trying to leave the Episcopal Church in large part due to this kind of crap.
@@jnkelley42 My suggestion is if you are interested in being Catholic, to join one of the Eastern Catholic Churches, like the Melkite, Ruthinean. Or Ukrainian. As you would be fully Catholic and would have some buffers as we are under a different Code of Canon Law.
Ah yes, the elusive hermit-phrodite.
In fact 'hermaphrodite' and 'hermit' both come from Hermes, Greek messenger god name. The first was the child of Hermes and Aphrodite; whereas the second comes from 'hermetic', which is a religious practice of isolating yourself from the world, first found in Greek mystery religions.
@@grantbartley483fascinating
I felt at 12 years old that G-d was calling me to be a nun. But I was ashamed, because I was born male, so I tried very hard to pretend to be a man. I'm 40 now and I still feel called to be a nun. It doesn't go away.
Is the bishop straight up publicly lying by saying him? Should he be disciplined?
Yes. The Pope already spoke out against gender theories and transexualism.
He has born false witness. That's a Big Ten!
Should he? YES. No more tolerance of this filth.
@@EdwardBray-i1w Colonising ideologies I believe Pope Francis called them. If compassion is loving another, and love is rejoicing in the truth, then how can one lie as a means of love, it doesn't make sense...
I am a Lexington native. Worst Bishop in US
I called this diocese…. Walking on egg shells.
Let us remember that Saint Joan of Arc was excommunicated by a worldly bishop. *_SAINT_* Joan of Arc. Remember this.
St Joan never wrote a letter stating she did not want to be in communion with The Pope, lied about the Pope, tried to claim her sins were the Pope's sins, and she was loyal to the end. Her story is much more akin to Padre Pio than Vigano's.
@@EdwardBray-i1w some of us can think the bishop of Rome is exactly where he’s meant to be, on the seat of St. Peter and still think he’s a slightly wayward, self-absorbed pope. And still know the church is true and stake our loyalty to her unequivocally; and would defend her at all costs. For she is guided by the Holy Spirit no matter who sits there. No matter which sinner seats there, they’re just a placeholder for the returning King. Just because we can see and choose to point out where a bishop is going wrong does not mean we’re being divisive or that we’re likely to leave the church or lead others away. On the contrary, facing the truth of the state of things, (the truth about some of our leadership) is much healthier than defending an ill. Defending an ill, means lying to yourself and it could mean one doesn’t actually believe the Holy Spirit is in control. A wolf can occupy the seat of Peter, and it would still be what’s meant to be for the time being. I’m comfortable with that b/c I trust the Holy Spirit infinitely. Hence many’s defense of Bishop Strickland and many others. Perhaps Vigano has gone off-course, but I wouldn’t know as I don’t follow. But I can say I believe Bishop Strickland to be a man of genuine faith and humility, simply trying his best to be more saint-like than coward.
@@vardaainur-michaelmas5462 except what these dissenters are pushing is not, Pope Francis is dictatorial (he's not otherwise there'd be, at least 5 more, clearly dishonest and divisive Cardinals who'd be excommunicated and they've not been), mean, argumentative, snobbish, etc.; and even these points I would argue are false and being pushed by some unscrupulous individual, but all this is just a matter of personal opinion. I mean, just because he doesn't hold your exact same political and social ideas/norms or those of your political vision, does not mean he's bad or wrong, or all these things most of you and the enemies of the Church accuse him of. These dissenters (including but not limited to Dubia Cardinal) are claiming falsehoods, are the ones creating confusion, and are intentionally misleading the faithful. In fact, most of these dissenters don't even hold Magisterial authority of themselves unless they are combined with all the college of bishops. I could for on with why you are just incorrect, but why bother as you will only experience cognitive dissonance after consuming so much dissenting material (like Matt has pushed, and at times consumes himself). You all believe Vigano is a paragon of virtue, when, in reality, he's been proven to reject that the Pope is a legitimate Pope, rejects Vatican II (a VERY valid ecumenical council), has lied, played defense for McCarrick then blamed it on Pope Francis when all evidence proves he's lying, and is building a parallel church with him as the heat (anti-Pope). But whatever, you do you, but no one should claim to be a faithful Catholic, when and if they know they're not.
@vardaainur-michaelmas5462 wild how my refutation of your last response is not there. Or is it my phone that won't show it?
Hopefully you aren’t insinuating I reported you or had anything to do w that. It happens. It’s utube. It’s a Christian channel. Perhaps someone took offense to your refutation and reported the comment as a violation or perhaps u wrote something that triggered the sensors. What do I know 🤷♀️. I’m a big girl, I can take a rebuttal.
You know nothing, John Stowe.
I snorted at this 😅
I've just seen -his- /hers/ interview with Marcus Grodi. Apparently, /s/he's been a convert to Catholicism. Presenting as a man during interview, no one knew.
I don’t like the bleeping. I would almost rather that you bleeped both gender words than just the feminine; it makes it seem dirty. I hope there’s a different way to problem-solve this nonissue.
Very true. Why is everyone, even this RUclips channel, trying to degrade women. It's getting very tiring. Even if they aren't meaning to.
(And this is coming from me who hates the feminist movement.)
I think the "what's the harm" anti-reasoning has been used by far too many intellectually lazy people. Clearly there is obvious harm. Let's use the logic of the yeast. Yeast is tiny compared to the environment it is placed in by the baker, but has a profound effect on that environment, dictating the direction and form of the final product. We must be careful to say, "What's the harm" as our primary basis for allowing beliefs and belief systems that are not of God to infiltrate the body of Christ.
As Fats Waller once said, its a sin to tell a lie
How the hell did we get lgbt "monks" before allowing ordination of married men?
We’ve had gay monks for bloody centuries 😂
@@minui8758Gay monks are a HUGE problem in Orthodoxy, where you’re expected to either get married or join a monastery. So many scandals that are still happening to this day.
@@OrangeXenon54 if they’re celibate then I genuinely think it’s no problem. Most of the gay people I know are kind and in caring professions like teaching or nursing. I wonder if the monastic life is specifically meant for gays and lesbians to get holy in, detach from their physical desires, and provide the rest of the Church and society with the medical, academic, and spiritual support it needs. It’s been a solid model in the west for 1000 years. Now gays and lesbians can do what they like and our vocation rates are collapsing… probably not coincidence
Wow first Peterson, then Cdl Burke, now John Travolta! Way to go Fradd! 👍
Maybe if this hermit would wear a veil
Beam me up Scotty 😂
Imagine St Paul being afraid of youtube and bleeping his words out because its the truth.
I chuckled at the ...you go down to Starbucks 😂
Follow, the Word of God, at all times and bring ALL things in subjection .......
But Strickland loses his post.
Strickland outright denies that Francis is Pope.
The Catholic Church takes that pretty seriously.
@@captainskippy4560 you're thinking of Vigano not Strickland. Strickland never denied The Pope.
Apples and oranges. Not saying it's right, but the Strickland affair is not the same as this.
@joesouthwell4080 He signed a document accusing the Pope of heresy.
Reason and Theology has a video explaining it all
@@captainskippy4560 another loftenite.
This video reminds me the same struggles black people had integrating or having to defend themselves. Feels like news from 1940 when "OMG the first integrated bathroom..." come on, I love that hermits are also part of this calling to challenge structures that are still using Aquinas like if there are no other ways to argument. The bishop is doing the labor accepting him just like Jesus, loving him just like Jesus, letting that vocation either male or female be inside the church. Praise for the bishops that give a sign that the institution is able to walk with the people and care for them. This hermit could have entered to the Episcopalians and didn't, he choose to stay connected in his church and his hopes were heard, welcomed and accepted. Regardless gender, a hermit is a treasure for the church. Blessings.
It is not like being black. We have biological men in the dressing rooms with biological woman. A woman got kicked out of Planet Fitness because she objected to a person with their penis exposed staring at her. Planet Fitness called it discrimination against transgender women. And nope, this kind of crap is not an isolated incident. Walking with someone and caring for someone does not meaning letting them do whatever they want. Additionally, I am an Episcopalian. I lived as a man for ten years. I am a woman. I wish someone, anyone would have had the courage and kindness to speak up and tell me God created me and loved me as He made me. Instead, I got a lot of help harming my body.
If you say “so we don’t get banned from RUclips” you defeat the purpose of the bleeps
Question can you love someone while using them to satisfy lust? It does feel a bit like saying they can have a beautiful caring relationship with the virtual girlfriend app after all people broke down saying they lobotomized their girlfriend when the original removed NSFW conversations
Bishop Stowe visited the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and spread a lot of confusion. From my recollection of this event (not perfect, it was in December of 2023), the primary objective of his talk was to "bring up" but not argue for a possible expansion of the definition of marriage. Another salient point is that he equivocated his detractors or those who might disagree with him as being in the company of Life Site News, itself a logical fallacy, and one that would put many good Catholics in line with those who do not properly acknowledge the authority of the Church. Please pray for him!
It frustrates me that Bishop Stowe is just allowed to spread harm and confusion for decades. Where is the Catholic Church in this?
2 biggest call for a marriage is proceeding life and seak the salvation of the couple, by been a couple gay you can't coz you can't have babies and you can't avoid do mortal sin if you are actively gay couple.
As someone who's Catholic curious, this makes it seem like you're really taking a risk when becoming Catholic because depending on where you live you could randomly have leadership like this Bishop and not really be able to do anything about it 😢
You can be Catholic despite the bishop being weak. We don't have to share the personal opinions of the bishop, and we don't have to obey any immoral directives. We could even be excommunicated like St. Joan of Arc was. SAINT Joan of Arc.
every bishop in emgland except St John Fisher abandoned the Pope. But Catholics remained just had to go underground for a bit. It happens.
A. The Catholic Church is not a Democracy. We, the lay, can just inform, but actions are taken by the direct leadership. There is, a scarcity of competent clerics who are able to manage Christ's Church, as many hold Protestant theology without even realizing it. Not that easy to select bishops.
B. There are steps that can be taken and they take time. You don't rush to these decisions rashly, then smear a cleric just cause I don't like his politics. There is a line the Church walks to avoid creating unnecessary scandal. There are nuncios who are meant to look into these things, but at times, you get a Nuncio like Vigano, who, rather than following up on credible allegations against Bishops and Priests, turn a blind eye, ignore recommendations from the Vatican to stop their activities, go to events with them and play pals, and praising these people (much like Vigano did for McCarrick). Then you have his lies and misinformation about the Pope, media outlets who, outright lie and misinform about the facts, then the poor souls who buy the propaganda and turn against the Church.
The Catholic Church has no shortage of enemies, but if you're a good, faithful, Catholic, you know that Jesus was not lying when he said he prayed for Peter so that he would not falter, and that the Gates of Hell would not triumph against His Church. You either trust Jesus genuinely, or you turn Protestant and hold a misguided idea of what that trust entails.
Catholicism is about Jesus and holy euchurist. Religion is run by man who are sinful, always will be. But its about your personal relationship with God. We are the only church started by Jesus, and are able to receive him everyday in the holy euchrist. If the holy spirit is asking you to come home, come home.
Yep! Welcome to life under the Magesterum.
I'm not going to lie to you. It's really hard sometimes; someone close to me was directly harmed by our local bishop. You have to decide if access to Jesus in the Sacraments is worth it to you, and if you believe the teachings of the Church are true. That's the primary reason I've stayed Catholic, and at the end of the day, they're the only reasons to join or stay.
Its really a question of what we understand as love as Christians. For example, parents who provide generously for their children and look after them well, but do not teach them the love of God.
The Dialogue in the theology of St Catherine of Sienna where she receives direct communication from Jesus addresses this. Should anyone be confused i would recommend St Catherine's theology.
Anyone who does this was not thinking
Is the full episode coming out on youtube?
Guhhh … I couldn’t even finish this video because of all the ridiculous censorship 😒 I’ll go watch the full video instead!
@@melissap5649 Welcome to RUclips. A sign of the times.
This is my bishop and diocese, please pray for us. Please pray for Bishop Stowe is a very nice person, and definitely loves the Lord and His church. I just believe he is extremely misguided in trying to support these people. He landed in hot water last year for promoting a known homosexual layman to a position that violates canon law. He also went released a pro BLM organization video with a “white privilege rant” the year before.😢
Lol I saw that article too and I was like, wth. 😂
I don't understand due to the quaks
Pray for them,don't mock or hate them.
NO
Crusader? A person who takes up the cross as an oath to fight against the kingdom of Satan and fight towards establishing the kingdom of Heaven? Yeah, I think it's fine to to call those Crusaders who fight against homosexuality (not necessarily the persons) in the Church.
Hey guys the full Locals episode is missing :/
How long does it take to come out?
What if the hermaphrodite grows breasts? And they have committed to being a male?
That would eliminate much of the confusion, hence making their earlier guess obsolete.
Unbleep this, so dumb
They will get a strike if they don’t bleep it, sadly
Beware of the prosperity gospel promoters in the comments. All they talk about is money. Like Judas.
First Comment and I’m blanking lol
Is it sincere to lie and deceive?
what video is this from?
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That’s probably the bishop’s boyfriend. Or girlfriend
You still shouldn’t be making such jokes about Bishops of Christ.
When St. Francis encountered a Priest who was openly fornicating with a mistress and was causing great controversy, he was recording as kneeling before him, kissing his hands and saying “I kiss the hands of Christ”. This is the attitude we should have with bishops and priests who cause scandal. We shouldn’t fall into sin ridiculing them.
@@SevereFamine Interesting 🤭
We? Ask Jesus.
Probably the Bishop’s boyfriend….
Shame on you.
@@SevereFamine
The shame is in the bishop
@@KenSiefert The shame is in both. We shouldn’t make such jokes, they are in fact sinful and degrading to the office which is of divine origin. You do with your words what he does with his behavior.
@@SevereFamine🙄
Prob. Why else would he be trying so hard to make this fit?
Not a fan of the goofy quack sounds. It interrupts the flow of the sentence & inserts humor where it’s not appropriate. Why not just have silence? Or better yet, speak the truth without fear.
Dous!
Y'all kept referring to her as "he"
It was generally only while they were reading a quote of somebody else saying it. Every time Thrsdy censored something was them saying it correctly, which YT doesn't allow.
@@461weavileHow does RUclips know which pronoun is correct, has their algorithm read the article? It’s idiotic.
@@SevereFamine someone or a group of people will spam report it. This probably gives Matt the grounds to appeal.
@@ElessarofGondor It just lead to my own confusion as to what exactly they were talking about. I wish they wouldn’t censor themselves, or at least censor themselves and make clear the situation in innuendo.
@@SevereFamine If you would like them to stop censoring themselves, you'll need to increase their revenue from sources other than YT.
Bergoglio’s gospel… A new gospel. A different gospel.
St Pier Damiani, pray for us and the Holy Church!
Stop. Go to confession for your calumny and stop.
@@EdwardBray-i1w Saint Pier Damiani, pray for Edward and all other heretics!
@@LorenzoLozziGallo-rg8bf ok, now do the correct thing and pray to him and St Francis de Sales for your heresy and repent, return to The Church, and cease this nonsense.
@@EdwardBray-i1w the Bible, the teaching of the apostles, the church fathers and the deposit of the Faith are more important than an antipope’s blasphemy. He shall pass. God bless you.
@@LorenzoLozziGallo-rg8bfYour heresy is in declaring yourself to have authority to declare a pope a heretic. You are dead in sin my friend. You are larping as a Catholic I pray you repent and go to confession or you are in serious trouble.
The Catholic Church will go gay, it will take longer than the Mainline, but the trajectory is the same.
It will not .
@@JenniferMiller-sx1xn What do you mean it will not? Half our priesthood already is....unless a polarizing stance is taken and enforced, why wouldn't it turn it that direction? It may not ever be presented as a doctrine, but without enforcement, it might as well be. You deserve what you tolerate
Your wording is extremely scandalous. Most people read this as “The Catholic Church is going to go the way of the Anglican Church, allowing female ordinations and marrying gay couples.” It comes off as highly disparaging of the Church, and of Jesus Christ who protects his bride!
@@cofresidotexe Regardless of how the wording makes you feel, is it not semi-accurate? Look at Germany and the child SA numbers over the past few decades.....almost all young boys. They don't reproduce so they are forced to "recruit". People are upset because they care
There are certainly times of scandal in the Church; and for sure we'll see handfuls of bishops fall into sin or error (as has always been the case). But if we really believe that our Catholic Church is the church that Christ built then, unlike the Anglican and other protestant churches, we also hold firmly to his promise that 'the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it' (Matt 16:18).
Even the Apostles had a Judas among them. The Church will endure.