Why these 3 Protestant friends became Catholic Christians
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Three evangelical Protestant Christians recount how and why they joined the Catholic (universal) Christian Church.
The topics and stories in this video are for the purpose of inviting deeper conversation and charity among ALL Christians, rather than criticism or disingenuous dialogue.
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Weak Catholics become Protestants, good Protestants become strong Catholics. Welcome home. Watching from Manila Philippines. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
pure nonsense -- the Biblically illiterate remain catholic.
catholicism is not Christianity.
Mother Angelica used to say "Protestants get the worst Catholics and Catholics get the best Protestants"... so true!
@@crushtheserpent nonsense -- Bible illiterates remain catholic -- while those seeking Jesus Christ become Christian.
I tend to agree that the best Protestants are the best Catholics. Although I am a cradle Catholic, I had a great Catholic Mother who taught me to love and appreciate the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
@@staceydaly9046 that isn't Christianity, Ma'am -- you're ignoring God's Word -- which is the bread of life.
catholicsm isn't even Christianity, according to the basic read of the Bible.
Welcome home, being a former Southern Baptist I converted to the Catholic Church in 2015. Enjoy your journey 👍🙏
from frying pan into the fire.
@@tony1685😆😆From the frying pan into the fire, you say? The truth is, when he left the frying pan, he found the warmth of the true flame-a frying not of 🔥, but of Divine light that illuminates the path to salvation. What you see as a fall is actually a rise into the fullness of faith. The fire that refines gold burns away the impurities, leaving only what is precious and true..
@@savagemode. you mention 'truth' -- tell me, does God's church uphold Truth -- as 1 Tim 3:15 says?
and if so, please take a look at Psalm 119:142, 151 -- then tell me, does catholicism really uphold His Truth?
@@tony1685 Indeed our Church does that but do you uphold this: Which says to follow the written and the word of mouth that passed down know as Holy Tradition. [ 2 Tim. 2:2 / 2 Thess. 2:15 /2 Tim. 1:13-14 /Phil. 4:9 / John 21:25]. Well we do bcz we know that we can see that reference from the Church Fathers writings and in our action Holy Tradition(example: Cross Sign).
@@savagemode. His Truth = His Commandments (all Ten) -- Ps 119:142, 151
Ex 20:4-6, your 'church' still makes and bows to statues, idols and body parts.
Ex 20:8-11, you're 'church' is a day late, the Lord's day is the 7th day Sabbath and always will be in Christianity.
'tradition' isn't regarded as Truth by our Creator -- therefore it's subject to God's Word -- Isaiah 8:20
God bless you guys! I was a Protestant for 22 years and I finally realized I was wrong. I was just on a Protestant RUclipsrs channel and was talking with him. I got harassed and talked over. He misused the fathers, and butchered John 6. It was the first time in my life that I actually felt a palpable grief from the split of our church (the Protestant reformation) normally I get mad, but this Time I was sad seeing how many people are mislead by Protestantism :( Unfortunately a lot of them (not all) argue like atheist. They use the same arguments that atheist use against Christianity , like the same logic. It’s truly sad
Sorry for you experience brother. Keep doing what you are doing and welcome home.
Welcome Welcome Welcome. The Church just got 3x stronger!!!
Listening to you guys made me weep. I am a fellow Catholic, 81 years old.
Great talk fellas. Welcome to the Church Christ himself left us. Thank you for sharing your testimonies. May your testimonies land on fertile soil and produce crop hundred , sixty or thirty times more.
Even the Vatican will tell you they split from the Orthodox Catholic Church in 1055 which is why they do not claim to be the only Catholic Church but admit Orthodox are Catholics. And by your logic all Protestant Catholic denominations have to do is gain more followers and claim they were started in AD 22
Welcome home dear brothers ❤❤❤❤❤
Another youtube gem to follow! New subscriber here from Philippines!
Awesome! Thank you!
Welcome home, now you understand what is Catholic , thank you.
New subscriber here from Manila Philippines ❤❤❤
Welcome home Brothers ❤❤ watching from Australia
Welcome Home. God bless!
Welcome home brothers, watching from Panama City🇵🇦
Awesome. Praise God!
Great video guys really enjoyed it.
Shalom from Malaysia
Malaysia needs to be converted to Catholic, I’m praying for it
Awesome, welcome home.🙏🙏🙏
Praise God🙏🙏🙏
I always pray that I become a successful Catholic Social Media Influencer to spread the teachings and Revelations of the Catholic Church and the entire Christendom. I hope and pray the Devotion to the Eucharist and the Holy Souls in Purgatory helps me.
St. Evodius of Antioch, pray for us
But Jesus intercedes for us
He is the one who died and ressurected....
In the Bible verse it says where he is and what he does.
Romans 8:34
Jesus intercedes for us at the right hand of God, and no one can condemn God's people.
Praying for you 🙏
Thanks for introducing me to a Saint I never heard of! Evodius was Bishop of Antioch 53-66 AD, successor of St. Peter, appointed by Peter when Peter left for Rome. Peter’s successor in Rome was Linus, our second Pope. Successor of Evodius was St. Ignatius of Antioch, who is of course very well known, especially for his letters and his martyrdom. Ignatius was the first to call the Church Catholic, around 110 AD.
Have I got all my facts right?
@@MarilynBoussaid-yd1vk Trivia: St. Evodius of Antioch invented the word Christian, while Pope Damasus and Pope St. Siricius decided the scriptures that should be accepted as part of the bible. God bless the entire Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
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That’s a surprise, because I always thought the term “Christian” was used as a sort of insult by the pagans. I guess that’s what happens when someone interprets Scripture for themselves; the Bible says “They were called Christians,” so I assumed it was,Ike, as in, They were called cannibals. I’m Catholic and I should know better.😂😅
Wow!!! You guys are home. ❤
Welcome home, my biggest question not having seen the video yet is there are 4 guys. Who's the slacker....lol
Welcome Home…. Sam Shamoun is great Catholic apologist… likes of Tim Staples, Scott Hahn, Jimmy Akin et al.
Warm greetings from Australia 🦘 Hi John. The podcast has potential. However, it rambled a bit. Very poor set up. The camera is too far away from your guests. It just comes across as a podcast thrown together. Bit too sloppy for me.
Cool to hear the guys' stories.
I am the Jonah in the room
That’s awesome 🙂🙏
Just an aside: relative to you saying about the senses involved in the full incantational sense: the famous second President John Adams, an agnostic if not actually atheist, made remarkable comments about the Mass.
Right ,why do you ignore the sacraments. Was a good comment to ask protestants .
Congrats welcome home
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At about 29:00. RCIA became OCIA. Not sure why… but nothing about the initiation process has changed.
Very cook
I loved the least lukewarm ❤❤❤
Orthodoxy was the first protestant church😊
in your dreams
Orthodoxy and Protestantism differ too much to even be 3rd cousins. Go learn more about their views or The Blessed Virgin Mary, Tradition, Baptism, just to name a few. 😂😂😂
Oh how wrong you are Stephan you really don’t know what your talking aboutTheres a big difference In Prost and Roman Catholic The Novis Ordo Mass is beautiful you shouldn’t talk about what you don’t know anything about
Is Mary the Mother of God?
No, the Bible does not teach that Mary is the mother of God, nor does it suggest that Christians should either worship or venerate Mary. a Consider:
• Mary never claimed that she was the mother of God. The Bible explains that she gave birth to “the Son of God,” not God himself.-Mark 1:1; Luke 1:32.
• Jesus Christ never said that Mary was God’s mother or that she was worthy of special devotion. In fact, he corrected a woman who gave special attention to Mary’s happy role as his mother, saying: “No, rather, happy are those hearing the word of God and keeping it!”-Luke 11:27, 28.
• The terms “Mother of God” and “Theotokos” (God-bearer) are not found in the Bible.
• The expression “Queen of Heaven” in the Bible refers, not to Mary, but to a false goddess worshipped by apostate Israelites. (Jeremiah 44:15-19) The “Queen of Heaven” may have been Ishtar (Astarte), a Babylonian goddess.
• Early Christians did not worship Mary, nor did they give her any special honor. One historian states that early Christians “would have rejected cults and probably feared that undue attention to Mary might evoke a suspicion of goddess worship.”-In Quest of the Jewish Mary.
• The Bible says that God has always existed. (Psalm 90:1, 2; Isaiah 40:28) Since he had no beginning, he cannot have a mother. Furthermore, Mary could not have held God in her womb; the Bible makes clear that even the heavens cannot contain him.-1 Kings 8:27.
Mary-Mother of Jesus not “Mother of God”
Mary was Jewish by birth, and she was a direct descendant of King David. (Luke 3:23-31) She was highly favored by God for her faith and devotion. (Luke 1:28) God chose her to become the mother of Jesus. (Luke 1:31, 35) Along with her husband, Joseph, Mary had other children.-Mark 6:3.
Although the Bible shows that Mary became a disciple of Jesus, not much additional information is given about her.-Acts 1:14.
Why do some consider Mary the mother of God?
The earliest evidence of devotion to Mary dates from the late fourth century C.E. At that time, the Catholic Church became the State religion of the Roman Empire. As a result, many who had a pagan background became nominal Christians. The church had also adopted the unscriptural teaching of the Trinity.
The doctrine of the Trinity led many in the church to conclude that if Jesus were God, then Mary must be the mother of God. In 431 C.E., a church council in Ephesus officially proclaimed Mary the “Mother of God.” Mariolatry-the excessive veneration of Mary-flourished after this Council of Ephesus. And as those from a pagan background joined the church, images and icons of the Virgin Mary gradually took the place of their fertility goddesses, such as Artemis (Diana, to the Romans) and Isis.
In 432 C.E., Pope Sixtus III ordered a church to be built in Rome in honor of the “Mother of God.” It was built near the site of an earlier temple erected in honor of Lucina, the Roman goddess of childbirth. One author described this church as “an enduring symbol of the assimilation of the Great Mother of the pagan cults to the cult of Mary after the Christianization of Rome.”-Mary-The Complete Resource.
seek mental health services
@@bibleman8010 That is what Satan wants me to do as you and your father are on the same page as the truth hurts
Are you talking about the Bible The Catholic Church wrote and put together. You need help. I'll pray for you.
@@alexshatner3907 Youve been deceived .You need to read ancient Christian History and watch TONS of video testimonies of former anti Catholic Protestant Bible Scholars ,Theologians ,Historians ,Pastors ,Intellectuals ,to name a few ,who have already converted to Catholicism .Many more are following their footsteps . This year alone on Easter ,more than 40k strong Evangelicals were formally received into the Catholic Church here in the USA .
Blah, blah ,blah....stuck in the 'bible' only....which didn't exist for how long ....get out of the ditch, poor thing
Eve wanted to be like God in Gen 3.
In Catholicism Mary is the mother of God.
Ironic 😢😮
Mary IS the Mother of God. Not in Catholicism...in FACT. To deny this is to deny that Jesus is God which is an ancient heresy
@@stratmatt22 Mary has no part in God's deity.
You are so removed from early church history that you believe in heretical ideas. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@georgefuentes4112 Do your church history I will continue with God's history.
When Jesus was confronted by the devil did he use Church History to defend himself???
The Word Used the Word. Matthew 4.
Classic example for every Christian.🙏
Heresy of Nestorianism Detected. We do not claim or believe that Mary gave the Divine Nature to the Lord Jesus. The title "Theotokos" (Greek for "God-bearer" or "Mother of God") means that she gave birth to the one who is fully God and fully human from the moment of conception in her womb. Anyone who asserts otherwise is subject to Ana -the *ma of this Her *esy. The title "Mother of God" is crucial because it affirms the divinity of Jesus from the moment of His conception. If we deny that Mary is the Mother of God, we are essentially denying that Jesus was fully God in her womb. This title safeguards the belief that Jesus Christ is one person with both divine and human natures, united from the very beginning. By honoring Mary as Theotokos, we affirm the truth of the Incarnation-that God truly became man..
Is there really much difference, especially after Vatican II? The new mass is very protestant in my opinion. In most places none prays the rosary and there are no icons or statues.. Bands can be seen or rather heard everywhere. I really see no difference. Maybe between the Society of SSPX and some fundamentalist Baptists, but otherwise the mod RCs and the Protestants are very close. If you want to see something truly different - See the Russian Orthodox Church.
😂😂 Vatican II did not do so much to the Holy Mass, it gave more choice not removing anything as so much important. Vatican II did change but that doesn't make Holy Mass invalid bcz it's an Authentic Council. Don't give jokes about Russian Orthodox. If you are gonna talk about TLM and Novus Ordo Missae, you don't have to bcz both are Authentic and there is a reason for doing so. It's funny you are saying this similarities between certain aspects of Catholic and Protestant worship, it's important to recognize the fundamental differences in theology and ecclesiology. The Catholic Church, even post-Vatican II, maintains its apostolic succession, the seven sacraments. Vatican II aimed to make the Mass more accessible and participatory, they did not fundamentally alter the Catholic understanding of the Mass or the sacraments. The New Mass retains its Catholic identity and theology.
The use of vernacular languages and the emphasis on active participation in the Mass were intended to make the liturgy more accessible and meaningful, not to fundamentally change Catholic doctrine. The Rosary, icons, and traditional devotions remain important parts of Catholic life, although their frequency may vary across different parishes. Some parishes may not prioritize the Rosary or traditional devotions, this is not a universal trend. Many Catholic churches continue to practice these traditions. Icons and statues are still a common sight in Catholic churches. Example: Our Church still follows Vatican II bcz it doesn't oppose Icons or Rosary. The use of contemporary music in Catholic worship is a matter of preference and cultural context. While some parishes may incorporate modern music, it does not negate the traditional liturgical music that is still widely used.
Comparing mainstream Catholics to fundamentalist Baptists is a significant oversimplification. While there may be some superficial similarities, the underlying beliefs and practices are vastly different. The Catholic Church continues to uphold its traditional teachings and practices.
@@savagemode. I am guessing that you are an advocate of more means better. I would say to you that you should first ask the Vatican why they are favouring one type of Catholicism of the hippies and the Biden-Pelosi crowd? If the traditional mass has a place as well as traditional devotions, why is the Pope and his minions doing everything they can to limit the traditional mass? Once you can answer these questions, I will tolerate a hippy mass of the hippies. As for me, give me the true Mass!
@@savagemode. I do not think that I was comparing RCs to Baptists. Possibly you are confused.
@@savagemode. Ask Pope Francis why he is curtailing the Mass of the Saints. More does not mean better.
Try reading The Gutenberg Martyrs. If you think that OK then maybe you are in the right place.
I was catholic so I know you don't know what you have got yourself into. 2 Corinthians 11 the RCC Jesus, Gospel and spirit is not the gospel that Paul and the apostle point to
Gutenberg Martyrs he printed the first Bible a Catholic Bible😁😁
For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, this you tolerate very well! 2 Cor 11:4
There are almost as many sects and beliefs as there are heads; this one will not admit Baptism; that one rejects the Sacrament of the altar; another places another world between the present one and the day of judgment; some teach that Jesus Christ is not God. There is not an individual, however clownish he may be, who does not claim to be inspired by the Holy Ghost, and who does not put forth as prophecies his ravings and dreams.
they are purveyors of ‘self-centered worship.' You may get people to come to those churches, and you may have church growth. But you will not have church impact. The reason is that church becomes increasingly like the culture. People go in, see a skit, listen to some music, hear a soothing sermon, and think they have done their Christian duty. They are entering the exact precarious position the mainline found itself in the '60s and '70s."
if salvation is by "faith only" it excludes even faith gained by reading the
Bible.
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I thought that John Calvin strictly taught from the Bible. Mmmm, why, then, are there 25 different Calvinist denominations in the USA/Canada? They do not worship together on the Lord's Day. Alliance of Reformed Churches(founded 2021 out of the RCA) Calvin Synod (United Church of Christ) Canadian and American Reformed Churches (Dutch Reformed - Liberated) Christian Reformed Church in North America (Dutch Reformed - GKN) Free Reformed Churches in North America - (Dutch Reformed - CGKN) French Protestant (Huguenot) Church, Charleston, SC--The only French Calvinist or Huguenot congregation still existing in the United States. Heritage Netherlands Reformed Congregations Hungarian Reformed Church in America Kingdom Network (inaugurating September 9, 2021 out of the RCA) Lithuanian Evangelical Reformed Church in America Netherlands Reformed Congregations Associated with the Dutch Reformed (Gereformeerde Gemeenten (Dutch)) churches in the Netherlands. Protestant Reformed Churches in America (Dutch Reformed - GKN) One of the most conservative of all Reformed/Calvinist denominations, the PRCA separated from the Christian Reformed Church in the 1920s in a schism over the issue of common grace. Reformed Congregations in North America Reformed Church in the United States (German Reformed) The majority of the original Reformed Church in the United States, which was founded in 1725, merged with Evangelical Synod of North America (a mix of German Reformed & Lutheran theologies) to form the Evangelical and Reformed Church in 1940 (which would merge with the Congregational Christian Churches in 1957 to form the United Church of Christ) leaving the Eureka Classis serving as a Continuing church of the Reformed Church in the United States until 1986, when it was dissolved to form the Synod of the Reformed Church in the United States Reformed Church in America The Reformed Church in America (RCA) is the oldest Dutch Reformed denomination in the United States, dating back from the mid-17th century Reformed Church of Quebec United Reformed Churches in North America (Dutch Reformed - GKN) Congregational Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches Puritan Reformed Church Newfrontiers in the United States Sovereign Grace Churches (Credobaptist, charismatic)
I thought that Martin Luther was the unifying force in the Protestant Church. Why, then, are there 26 different groups of Lutherans in the USA who DO NOT worship together on the Lord's Day. Is not the Bible their sole authority? Then why is the Bible so contradictory? Association of Confessional Lutheran Churches Association of Free Lutheran Congregations Association of independent evangelical Lutheran churches[J] Augsburg Lutheran Churches Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America Church of the Lutheran Confession Concordia Lutheran Conference Conservative Lutheran Association Evangelical Lutheran Conference & Ministerium of North America Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America General Lutheran Church Illinois Lutheran Conference Independent Lutheran Diocese[J] Laestadian Lutheran Church[I] Latvian Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Lutheran Church - International[J] Lutheran Churches of the Reformation Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ Lutheran Conference of Confessional Fellowship The Lutheran Evangelical Protestant Church[B] Lutheran Ministerium and Synod - USA Lutheran Orthodox Church[J] Missionary Lutheran Church Old Apostolic Lutheran Church of America Orthodox Lutheran Confessional Conference Protes'tant Conference United Lutheran Mission Association
I thought that John Knox was a unifying force of the Protestant Church; yet, in North America, there are 35 versions of the Presbyterian Church. Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church - around 22,459 members (2018)[1] - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Covenanter & Seceder Bible Presbyterian Church - around 3,500 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist partially: Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches - around 15,000 members - Evangelical/Orthodox, Dutch Reformed/Presbyterian, Calvinist Cumberland Presbyterian Church - around 67,074 members (2016)[2] - Liberal, Presbyterian, Arminian Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America - around 6,500 members - Liberal, Presbyterian, Arminian Evangelical Assembly of Presbyterian Churches in America- 73 churches in the USA ECO (Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians) - more than 129,765 members, 320 churches and 500 Pastors (2018)[3] - Evangelical, Presbyterian[4][5] Evangelical Presbyterian Church - around 122,216 members (2018)[6] - Evangelical, Presbyterian, Charismatic[7] Korean-American Presbyterian Church - around 53,000 members - Conservative Evangelical, Korean-Presbyterian, Calvinist Korean Presbyterian Church Abroad - around 55,000 members - Progressive Evangelical, Korean-Presbyterian Orthodox Presbyterian Church - around 31,472 members (2019)[8]- Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Presbyterian Church in America - around 383,338 members (2020)[9] - Evangelical, Presbyterian, Calvinist[10] Presbyterian Church in Canada - around 225,000 members - Presbyterian Presbyterian Church (USA) - around 1,245,354 members - Liberal, Presbyterian[11][12] Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America - around 7,800 members - Orthodox, Exclusive Psalmody, A cappella, Covenanter, Presbyterian, Calvinist partially: United Church of Canada - around 388,000 members (as of 12/31/2018) - Liberal, Presbyterian & Congregational & Methodist[13 American Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Covenant Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, 1646 Westminster Confession, Presbyterian, Calvinist[14] Covenanting Association of Reformed and Presbyterian Churches Evangel Presbytery - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Faith Presbytery, Bible Presbyterian Church Federation of Reformed Churches - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Paedocommunion Free Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Presbyterian Reformed Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Puritan Reformed Church Reformed Presbyterian Church - Hanover Presbytery - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Reformed Presbyterian Church General Assembly - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Reformed Presbytery in North America - Orthodox, Covenanter Presbyterian, Calvinist Upper Cumberland Presbyterian Church - less than 1000 members - Conservative, Presbyterian, Four-Point Calvinist Vanguard Presbytery - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist Free Church of Scotland - has 9 congregations in North America Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) - has 8 congregations in the USA Associated Presbyterian Churches - has 1 congregation in Vancouver Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland
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A Protestant response. As baptized believers, these fine individuals already are Catholic. All the redeemed are part of Christ’s catholic or universal church. They are fully united to Christ and his church. The two can’t be separated. What these Christians are doing is changing from one particular Christian tradition (Protestant and Evangelical) to another Christian tradition (Roman Catholic). The Roman church and Christ’s catholic or universal church are not synonymous. Roman Catholicism is a particular Christian tradition not exclusively the Church itself. Switching from say Lutheranism to say Roman Catholicism is not some kind of promotion. As Protestants, these Christians were not lower tier or second class Christians who have now become top tier Christians. Blessings
Don't deceive yourself into think you are in the Catholic Church.. To be catholic is to be in the fullness faith being protestant makes you a branch of the Church not a catholic. You need to come to full union with the church Christ Himself founded.
@@albertaowusu3536 I didn’t put me in Christ’s church. Christ put me in his church. Take it up with him. As a redeemed person, I have all of Christ (not just part but all) and he has all of me. Sorry that this bothers you but again I didn’t do anything. Christ did it all so take it up with him.
@@paulsmallwood1484 how can it be Jesus' church when it doesn't fit His criteria?
you always ignore these Facts, paul.
@@tony1685 How can the Roman Catholic tradition claim the first century church as exclusively theirs when contemporary Roman Catholicism doesn’t look anything like the primitive church? Nor are several of its dogmas taught in the early church. Roman Catholicism is largely a product of the Middle Ages. It is an historical development. Are there many fine Christians in Roman Catholicism? Absolutely. Can Roman Catholics claim the primitive church as exclusively theirs? No. The three major branches of the Christian religion (Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox) can claim the primitive church as their common heritage. The early church is our common mother but none can claim her exclusively. The scriptures teach clearly on the Catholic Church, who is in it, who is its head and how it is visibly manifest in the world. Roman Catholicism departs from this at several key points. Are there millions of Roman Catholics who are part of the redeemed and thus part of the Catholic Church? Absolutely!
@@paulsmallwood1484 Jesus gave the church authority. He did not give Luther or Calvin authority to lead the lay people astray. You are not in full communion with the Church. Jesus specifically told you to eat his flesh and drink his blood yet you deny him. Claiming you are already saved or redeemed is the sin of presumption. We are told to always work out our salvation with fear and trembling.