Everyone is talking about how Chronos was revived, but has anyone noticed how _scared_ Hades sounds in the beginning of this interaction? His voice outright breaks when he starts to talk with his father
Hades' first encounter with his father was getting eaten by him, his last before this moment was taking part in slaying him. The likelihood of trauma and bad blood being on both sides could probably exceed 100.
It's actually a disturbingly accurate portrait of the influence abusers have over their victims. Hades is usually the guy commanding the room, but in front of the man who LITERALLY SWALLOWED him, he's a scared kid walking on eggshells, trying not to wake Dad.
thinking about it know the fact that the titan blood lead to chronos it made sense that the aspects lead to aspects of people in the future titan of time after all
Okay, ignoring the idea that Zagreus using Titan's Blood to access the Aspects of his Infernal Arms, someone had to helped Chronos revive himself and his true plan involves finding the Fates, possibly to rewrite things so that he will be on top again. Still its somewhat a relief to know that Zag, Persephone, and the rest of the House are safe, more or less
Yeah-it appears that only Hades is the one conscious of being trapped-however, that begs to question if his family knows of him handing Melinoë over to Hecate? When we awake and free them, what will happen they have realize just how much they missed? That the infant little girl they held in their arms possibly moments before is now a woman fully grown, and that Hades himself is an aged, weaken man who was trapped alone?
Well that’s some lovely irony. In order get stronger weapons and unlock them, we inadvertently brought our grandfather back to life. Zag done goofed. Albeit not intentionally, but goofed he done did.
That's why the blood had golden spikes. I just hope the more nightmarish Titans like Hyperion and Iapetus haven't been revived, or else Melinoë and Olympus will be in even deeper trouble.
@@calebleach7988 Believe it or not, the mix-up has been occuring since the times of ancient Greece. Even they tended to see Kronos with Chronos' powers.
@@calebleach7988 Cronus (titan) was considered a harvest deity, and crops can have a ton of symbolism with the passage of time, and as the other guy said even the greeks used to mix them up. I think it's only in orphism that Chronos (time incarnate) has a backstory with different parents and offspring than Cronus, but in this game lore we know that Orpheus believes and spreads around any bs Zagreus tells him, so i wouldn't be surprised if we saw him totally confused and thinking there are two different Chronos and making up something to make it work xddd
@@cpozo3306 yes I’m aware that Cronus had some ties to time, but it was more cyclical than Chronos. The word Chronos translates roughly “running out of time”
That's why the weapons can reveal aspects of the future, and is surrounded by a golden halo... It was said nobody knew whose blood it was. I guess we know now.
It seems someone may have helped Chronos beyond the blood sacrifices. It reminds me of this part of the Codex in the original game about the satyr cultists: "Efforts to exterminate the goat-faced fiends have proven unsuccessfull. What can they do, in turn, except to desecrate the Master's halls? Yet, if the Master is uneasy, there must be a cause."
You know that scene in movies where kids are playing, and then they accidentally knock over somebody’s ashes? That was Zagreus doing speedruns out of Hades while pouring titan blood down Aegis’ gullet
God that delivery was perfect on the 'I have not EATEN them or anything'. What a way of rubbing the salt in and a hell of a threat with that demonic tonal shift on the one word. Yeah this bugger is irredeemable at this point.
Why is everyone assuming that Zag's upgrades are what brought back Chronos? The weapons were literally consuming the blood Zag gave them. Or was there some other detail that was mentioned outside of this cutscene?
@@CheshTheTheorist i presume its just that messing with titans blood specifically has consequences we have yet to fully know. chronos is in fact a titan, so that blood may be (and probably is) his. we have no idea what happened so it could very well be that simply going out of his way to collect and use chronos' blood in some capacity was enough to bring him back, perhaps through the sheer amount of blood amassed or the fact that something infused with so much of chronos' being is constantly showered with both zagreus' blood and the blood of the underworld monsters after his constant attempts to leave the underworld. or it could be a completely different reason! the satyrs on floor 4 didnt help, that's for sure, but it wouldnt be too amiss to presume that we had a hand in it as well since once we kill them they havent amassed enough for chronos to immediately reform (although the codex says they havent been completely eradicated so theres a chance they just kept going lol). its not automatically true mind you, just a cool possibility
Remember the boss we all spent HOURS trying to beat so with many different builds and passive abilities then later having to fight multiple times for different endings? Now we get to play AS him.....if only for a little bit.
Zagreus bout to get the grounding of a millennium once Hades puts two and two together and figures out it was him who was unknowingly giving Grandpa his blood sacrifices 😅
@@the.dandy.man2 aww I know. I only truly think Hades would blame him for the whole situation. After all, who knows better than him how much of a master manipulator Chronus is?
So Chronos took out the Underworld inhabitants first before starting the war with the Olympians on high, I guess he probably needed a more appropriate headquarters to rage the war. And I can only imagine the grief that Persephone is going to have to go through. Once again she missed out on not one but both of her children growing up now.
Yooo I can't watch this video because I don't want spoilers but could you change the title a little to hide any spoilers? A lot of people haven't gotten the far yet
@@zect6522 My current bet is that the satyrs we killed in game 1 plus human cultists wanting a return to the Golden age of man. Which was during chronus's reign, before the gods. (The silver age was the gods' rule up until pandora opened her jar)
@@dragonk1059Yes and no. There seem to be evidence that at one point, the titan of time wasn’t the olympians father. But in most texts, the two are the same person (greek mythology is really just a giant fandom with thousand of fanfics). Similarly, Achille once upon a time wasn’t protected from harm, he was just so good that it took divine intervention to kill him.
@@dragonk1059 No, that is not true. While Chronos was god of time, the Cronus was a god of Harvest, son of Gaia and Uranus against whom he rebeled and won.
Everyone blaming my boy Zaggy for upgrading his shit in Hades1. Anyone ever think maybe this could’ve been avoided if Hades had talked to his family even once, or let his son leave the underworld without forcing him to fight through a gauntlet every time?
....blood sacrifices.
HADES I SWEAR I JUST WANTED THE ASPECT OF ARTHUR, I DIDNT MEAN TO RESSURECT YOUR TYRANT OF A DAD!
Tbf, chronos is hot and badass so worth it
Hot grandpa? WTF!?
@@bennetttheunluckyguy6428OH NO HE'S HOOOOT
Zaggy fucked up and rezed Foxy time grandpa
It makes sense to access aspects through titian blood or Cronus blood
To be fair in hades 1 it is implied that Zagreus bargaining with entities like chaos and such may have unpleasant consequences.
And Mel does the same. I suppose its par
for the course, its Greek myth after all.
to be fair, Chaos appears to be extremely mad, likely wanting to interfere against Chronos
Everyone is talking about how Chronos was revived, but has anyone noticed how _scared_ Hades sounds in the beginning of this interaction? His voice outright breaks when he starts to talk with his father
Hades' first encounter with his father was getting eaten by him, his last before this moment was taking part in slaying him. The likelihood of trauma and bad blood being on both sides could probably exceed 100.
It's actually a disturbingly accurate portrait of the influence abusers have over their victims. Hades is usually the guy commanding the room, but in front of the man who LITERALLY SWALLOWED him, he's a scared kid walking on eggshells, trying not to wake Dad.
So the blood sacrifices we've done during the first game were to blame. Zagreus has been duped.
Hades did pointed out to him to never meddle with those ancient artefacts
Ain’t no way… I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE MY WEAPONS TT^TT
Wait--Titan blood to upgrade our weapons?? Oh no, in unlocking and upgrading those, we've doomed our Zagreus!!
@@areszeudion5153 Yeah, we've been duped. We only did those sacrifices for better weapons. Chronos was manipulating us from the start.
So the fates saw it coming@@jedblack7234
Everyone says this is because of the Titans blood. Nobody considers that it may also be Zagreus’ own.
We are Zagreus, therefore, we too are too blame.
For wanting to unlock and upgrade those cool weapons.
I regret nothing for Hestia's riffle.
@@areszeudion5153So the rumors of us fighting Hestia is true
Zagreus blood
Uh oh Zaggy did a major fuck up.
Ya but fully upgraded Excalibur is completely worth the cost
@@asdasasdas3476 yep absolutely worth the titan of time/tyranny coming back
Classic teenager behaviour.
thinking about it know the fact that the titan blood lead to chronos it made sense that the aspects lead to aspects of people in the future
titan of time after all
Shit...
How dare he freeze my favorite characters in time I shall have his head! Once I die enough times Then I'll have his head!
🤨 gay?
@@sorrychangedmyusername3594And?
Stop treating my religion as a toy.
Okay, ignoring the idea that Zagreus using Titan's Blood to access the Aspects of his Infernal Arms, someone had to helped Chronos revive himself and his true plan involves finding the Fates, possibly to rewrite things so that he will be on top again. Still its somewhat a relief to know that Zag, Persephone, and the rest of the House are safe, more or less
Yeah-it appears that only Hades is the one conscious of being trapped-however, that begs to question if his family knows of him handing Melinoë over to Hecate? When we awake and free them, what will happen they have realize just how much they missed? That the infant little girl they held in their arms possibly moments before is now a woman fully grown, and that Hades himself is an aged, weaken man who was trapped alone?
Well that’s some lovely irony. In order get stronger weapons and unlock them, we inadvertently brought our grandfather back to life.
Zag done goofed. Albeit not intentionally, but goofed he done did.
That's why the blood had golden spikes. I just hope the more nightmarish Titans like Hyperion and Iapetus haven't been revived, or else Melinoë and Olympus will be in even deeper trouble.
I’m still mad that they mixed Cronus and Chronos into one. They were originally 2 separate entities, but oh well.
@@calebleach7988 Believe it or not, the mix-up has been occuring since the times of ancient Greece. Even they tended to see Kronos with Chronos' powers.
@@calebleach7988 Cronus (titan) was considered a harvest deity, and crops can have a ton of symbolism with the passage of time, and as the other guy said even the greeks used to mix them up. I think it's only in orphism that Chronos (time incarnate) has a backstory with different parents and offspring than Cronus, but in this game lore we know that Orpheus believes and spreads around any bs Zagreus tells him, so i wouldn't be surprised if we saw him totally confused and thinking there are two different Chronos and making up something to make it work xddd
@@cpozo3306 yes I’m aware that Cronus had some ties to time, but it was more cyclical than Chronos. The word Chronos translates roughly “running out of time”
That's why the weapons can reveal aspects of the future, and is surrounded by a golden halo... It was said nobody knew whose blood it was. I guess we know now.
It seems someone may have helped Chronos beyond the blood sacrifices. It reminds me of this part of the Codex in the original game about the satyr cultists: "Efforts to exterminate the goat-faced fiends have proven unsuccessfull. What can they do, in turn, except to desecrate the Master's halls? Yet, if the Master is uneasy, there must be a cause."
You know that scene in movies where kids are playing, and then they accidentally knock over somebody’s ashes? That was Zagreus doing speedruns out of Hades while pouring titan blood down Aegis’ gullet
God that delivery was perfect on the 'I have not EATEN them or anything'. What a way of rubbing the salt in and a hell of a threat with that demonic tonal shift on the one word. Yeah this bugger is irredeemable at this point.
Why is everyone assuming that Zag's upgrades are what brought back Chronos? The weapons were literally consuming the blood Zag gave them. Or was there some other detail that was mentioned outside of this cutscene?
We weren’t feeding them zag’s blood we were giving them titans bloods.
Did everyone forget the satir infestation on the forth floor because they where duing way more blood sacrifices than us even before we kill them
@@lunerblade13 I know. I'm saying the blood is being consumed, not given/sacrificed to Chronos.
@@CheshTheTheorist i presume its just that messing with titans blood specifically has consequences we have yet to fully know. chronos is in fact a titan, so that blood may be (and probably is) his. we have no idea what happened so it could very well be that simply going out of his way to collect and use chronos' blood in some capacity was enough to bring him back, perhaps through the sheer amount of blood amassed or the fact that something infused with so much of chronos' being is constantly showered with both zagreus' blood and the blood of the underworld monsters after his constant attempts to leave the underworld. or it could be a completely different reason! the satyrs on floor 4 didnt help, that's for sure, but it wouldnt be too amiss to presume that we had a hand in it as well since once we kill them they havent amassed enough for chronos to immediately reform (although the codex says they havent been completely eradicated so theres a chance they just kept going lol). its not automatically true mind you, just a cool possibility
A reminder to every one the satyrs also where duing blood sacrifices so i blame them on this one
Yeah. Hades himself was concerned about something the satyrs were doing in the temple
Well, that explains where Zagreus was...
ZAGREUS
I love how that since Hades barely talks to his family upstairs, they never realized what was happening
He couldn't even if he wanted to if Hades called for help Kronos would by fate if I might add would have teared Zageus to pieces.
Remember the boss we all spent HOURS trying to beat so with many different builds and passive abilities then later having to fight multiple times for different endings?
Now we get to play AS him.....if only for a little bit.
It would be fun if we could play as him for entire runs as post game content
I really hope this foreshadows a full blown playable Hades mode
wait who all is trapped in time? I see zag, meg, achilles, persephone and dusa but who's the final character? I don't recognize them
Thanatos
So, Hypnos is not along those that fell victim to Chronos?
@@zyrevelvrein2388 As far as we can tell know, but he’s been sleeping for as long as Melinoe can remember
@@NcxX-c8f thanks
Zagreus bout to get the grounding of a millennium once Hades puts two and two together and figures out it was him who was unknowingly giving Grandpa his blood sacrifices 😅
zagreus had no way of knowing this would happen so this is a crime of ignorance not malice
@@the.dandy.man2 aww I know. I only truly think Hades would blame him for the whole situation. After all, who knows better than him how much of a master manipulator Chronus is?
Love to see these spoilers as soon as I open RUclips
You know... the title doesn't reveal a whole lot. You had to watch the video to be spoiled of anything.
I mean, Hades is in Hades 2? What surprise!
This is definitely some cruel irony, in our attempt to grow our weapons to beat Hades we inadvertently brought back one of the worst titans.
So Chronos took out the Underworld inhabitants first before starting the war with the Olympians on high, I guess he probably needed a more appropriate headquarters to rage the war.
And I can only imagine the grief that Persephone is going to have to go through. Once again she missed out on not one but both of her children growing up now.
Got to get these videos off my feed. I'm gonna spoil it!
To think, all of this could have been avoided if Hades wasn't so obnoxiously stubborn
Yooo I can't watch this video because I don't want spoilers but could you change the title a little to hide any spoilers? A lot of people haven't gotten the far yet
Don’t watch then womp womp
@@BigChungus-gz9vw I said change the title. The title is a spoiler. You see it when scrolling. Why you gotta be like this?
Logan Cunningham talking to Logan Cunningham
Well damn now it's not a secret, thanks algorithm
Please don’t put spoilers in the title without a warning, the algorithm recommended this to me so I had no ability to avoid this
So what causes this to happen?
Chronos got rebuilt, then he go to the house of hades for a little vengeance
Could be that all of the Titan's Blood that Zaggy collected has somehow helped Chronos' severed parts locate each other?
@@zect6522Pretty muc
@@zect6522 My current bet is that the satyrs we killed in game 1 plus human cultists wanting a return to the Golden age of man.
Which was during chronus's reign, before the gods.
(The silver age was the gods' rule up until pandora opened her jar)
@@generalhorse493 I agree with you, because I doubt hades would let to use titan blood on weapons if it was dangerous
Hades idle animation seems a bit inappropriate for this cutscene
Were we fated/prophecised to upgrade those weapons? Cause if so, I think we're in the clear responsability wise
chronos voice? isnt that the narrator's voice in the first game?????
No homer is the narrator
IM SORRY BUT HIS RUNNING ANIMATION IS TOO GOOFY
Wait a second. Hades's and the others father was Cronus, not Chronos.
Same god/titan, different interpretations of the name
They’ve been conflated over time, like Helios and Apollo or Hades and Thanatos.
@@dragonk1059Yes and no. There seem to be evidence that at one point, the titan of time wasn’t the olympians father. But in most texts, the two are the same person (greek mythology is really just a giant fandom with thousand of fanfics). Similarly, Achille once upon a time wasn’t protected from harm, he was just so good that it took divine intervention to kill him.
@@dragonk1059 No, that is not true. While Chronos was god of time, the Cronus was a god of Harvest, son of Gaia and Uranus against whom he rebeled and won.
@@grinchforest948 How convenient for you to ignore the other comments.
Thanks for spoiling ig? Not even sure if this is believable.
does it show how Hecate look like?
Everyone blaming my boy Zaggy for upgrading his shit in Hades1. Anyone ever think maybe this could’ve been avoided if Hades had talked to his family even once, or let his son leave the underworld without forcing him to fight through a gauntlet every time?
And that’s assuming that the “blood sacrifices” Chronos is describing even pertain to Zagreus in the first place.
No, it's Zag's fault.
Coop when?
Probably won't even be a thing until near release or at full release.
This is a single player game so never going to happen
The title is misleading and dishonest. Just merely running as Hades for couple of seconds doesn't really mean "playing."
30 bucks half a game........... lmao beta testing a beta for 30 bucks ^^
Users first introduction to early access.
It literally has more content than the full version of Hades 1. Played for 15 hours so far, haven't seen a single bug. Hold this L please.