Another very good demonstration and this one of a superior saw blade. I'm not in the market for a saw blade but if I was this would be the one to get..... Well done Gilbert
My saw came with a Leuco blade and I have several 84T 350MM blades. They make an exceptional blade and I keep the same blade on the saw for all applications. If you have the rip fence aligned with the blade there are no tooth marks on the cut and it is quick. I have a 400MM rip Leuco that I seldom use but I had a 9' walnut 8/4 to cut and I mounted the 400 rip. Just amazing speed and a clean cut. I run the teeth about 1/4" above the board for a rip cut and there is no pinching at the tail end of the cut as I have the side of the teeth always against the wood.
I'm surprised that works that well for wood. I thought it was for countertop materials. The gullet is so small that it seems like it wouldn't be good at moving quickly and with dust collection. Their e-shop doesn't list this blade. I see it in their catalog, though. Says it is recommended for MDF, HDF, blockboards, plywood, and "multiplex" board. After seeing your plywood and melamine cuts, I can see why. I'm still stunned at how well the dust collection works with it. Have you tried it with cherry or soft maple to see if it burns at all? Nice saw, BTW. I have a smaller K700P, also with the overarm guard.
My sentiments exactly. The results are obviously impressive... But I don't quite fathom how it can rip so think solid wood so well. It's thinner but gullet size is proportional to material thickness, blade diameter, rpm, and feed rate. Either the material is moving slower... The chips are compressing... Or all this time we've been using gullets to large! One other explanation is that the thin rips at the end of the board allowed enough wiggle room for chips to exit? How does it do in the middle of a thick board?
@@mmocny It makes more dust than chips. That's probably also why you're seeing smoother cuts. I've used mine for finish cuts, but my rough rips are still done with the huge-gullet rip blade.
Is heat an issue ? Otherwise than the price, any drawback ? Durability vs carbide ? You mentioned in a previous video you will do a review of your tablesaw. When you do, can you briefly cover the major difference in their models. As an example, you mentioned the travel distance back and forth, which is greater than my workshop :) Thank you.
I bought that very same blade because I was so impressed with the results you get and... man I have a lot of tooth marks on every single cut... Any tip or advice as to what I'm doing wrong ? cheers
I watched the video when you did it first and I ordered one when my saw finally arrived from Felder earlier this year. The quality of the cuts is absolutely fantastic- the only downside is that I’m more nervous using that blade Incase I damage it !! How tuff are the diamond tips actually, I’d love to know how it’s cutting now after more use and if there has been anything that damaged the blade in use . Thanks for the videos- liked ,commented and subscribed👍
I still use it and it is still in excellent condition. Under a microscope however some of the diamonds has some micro chips in it. I think that happened when customers bring me dirty wood. Also a customer brought me some crooked pressure treated 4x4 and asked me to cut it at a 45 degree angle. The blade overheated but fortunately it is still pretty straight. Now when a customer bring me wood, I use a cheap blade. You will notice after a while that your diamond blade won’t cut as good. Just soak it overnight in laquer thinner and the next morning use a brass brush to clean the diamond tooth. You blade will cut like new again.
Yes the scoring blade is a bit too thick even with all the shims removed. I was actually going to call Felder tomorrow to see if they have a thinner scoring blade. But now you tell me it doesn’t exist. 😭 I just did a small kitchen and I regret having used my scoring blade. Next time I won’t use it. With the diamond blade, the chip out on the melamine is very minuscule.
I called Felder today and no luck. They gave me a number to call and they also could not get me a 2.5mm scoring blade. 😭 Let me know if you find something
@@frenchriversprings is a 2.5 scoring blade the proper size to have or is it based on the main blade thickness your using? Or if you have a thicker main blade, do you then just line up one edge of the scoring blade to the main blade? Thx
@@tundrawhisperer4821 the main blade is 2.8 The scoring blade is also 2.8 but come with shims so you can make it wider in case you buy a blade wider than 2.8 The scoring blade has an adjustment side to side. Very easy and fast to do. So sadly I cannot get a 2.5mm scoring blade to match my diamond blade.
Yes the dado blade I use is 8”. I bought it at felder group but is not a felder brand. You can buy a felder dado but they are really expensive. I’m happy with my dado set.
My 700s is coming in December and i will definitely be picking up this blade! 99% of what i cut is white melamine and this blade looks like it does a insane job . 562.00 here in the states
I wondered if anybody noticed: 4:18 the guys shows cross-cut end piece of wood, but what he did is turn the piece and shows the wrong end. You can clearly see chipping by the blade. That is wrong. You got paid by the company
I wonder if anyone's tried diamond teeth on either a bandsaw or swing-blade sawmill. I'd expect it to handle hitting metal in a log far better than conventional blades do.
Your Felder uses a 12 inch blade. Most table saws use a 10 inch blade, so I am thinking it could be much cheaper for the smaller size and from competitive suppliers vice OEM
@@frenchriversprings ok cool, maybe you could do a short video on the design n the differences to a masonry disc, why its designed for wood, how it cuts so fantastically maybe even get them to sponsor your video send you a new blade then try to cut different materials see what would damage or destroy it. 👍👍
OUCH! $700 for a wood blade. I can barely afford my Forrest blades. 😁. But I guess that computes, my $3K Powermatic saw gets the $200 blade, your $25K Felder saw gets the $700 blade. 👍🏻
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As a small addition. The saw blades are not manufactured by Felder, but by the German company 'AKE' and re-labeled for Felder.
9:55 - The saw is quieter than the phone. You have an amazing setup!
Thanks for the helpful video and sample cuts of representative materials. The saw and blade are wow!
Thanks for the great demonstration. Oh, and nice exit stage right😂
These must be the cleanest cuts I've ever seen
Another very good demonstration and this one of a superior saw blade. I'm not in the market for a saw blade but if I was this would be the one to get..... Well done Gilbert
Thanks Gator. It should last a very long time.
My saw came with a Leuco blade and I have several 84T 350MM blades. They make an exceptional blade and I keep the same blade on the saw for all applications. If you have the rip fence aligned
with the blade there are no tooth marks on the cut and it is quick. I have a 400MM rip Leuco that I seldom use but I had a 9' walnut 8/4 to cut and I mounted the 400 rip. Just amazing speed and a
clean cut. I run the teeth about 1/4" above the board for a rip cut and there is no pinching at the tail end of the cut as I have the side of the teeth always against the wood.
Thanks for the info. Will check out that leuco blade. Never heard of it.
Sold! Thank you. It’s the only blade we will buy for our new saw. No more time spent pouring over saw blade specs.
I'm surprised that works that well for wood. I thought it was for countertop materials. The gullet is so small that it seems like it wouldn't be good at moving quickly and with dust collection. Their e-shop doesn't list this blade.
I see it in their catalog, though. Says it is recommended for MDF, HDF, blockboards, plywood, and "multiplex" board. After seeing your plywood and melamine cuts, I can see why. I'm still stunned at how well the dust collection works with it.
Have you tried it with cherry or soft maple to see if it burns at all?
Nice saw, BTW. I have a smaller K700P, also with the overarm guard.
Only cut hard maple so far but cuts cherry really nice without burn marks.
@@frenchriversprings Excellent, thanks. I'll have to email my Felder rep and ask about this blade.
My sentiments exactly. The results are obviously impressive... But I don't quite fathom how it can rip so think solid wood so well. It's thinner but gullet size is proportional to material thickness, blade diameter, rpm, and feed rate. Either the material is moving slower... The chips are compressing... Or all this time we've been using gullets to large!
One other explanation is that the thin rips at the end of the board allowed enough wiggle room for chips to exit? How does it do in the middle of a thick board?
@@mmocny It makes more dust than chips. That's probably also why you're seeing smoother cuts. I've used mine for finish cuts, but my rough rips are still done with the huge-gullet rip blade.
That blade is phenomenal! You have the best tools. Cheers--
Thank you. I’m only 52 years old and plan to do woodworking for a long time. Might as well buy the best tools and buy once. 😊
Is heat an issue ? Otherwise than the price, any drawback ? Durability vs carbide ? You mentioned in a previous video you will do a review of your tablesaw. When you do, can you briefly cover the major difference in their models. As an example, you mentioned the travel distance back and forth, which is greater than my workshop :) Thank you.
I bought that very same blade because I was so impressed with the results you get and... man I have a lot of tooth marks on every single cut... Any tip or advice as to what I'm doing wrong ? cheers
Make sure your blade protrudes only 1/2”. Feed your wood slower. The thicker the wood, the better job that blade does. Let me know if that helps.
@@frenchriversprings thanks mate. I'll try that and be back to you
I watched the video when you did it first and I ordered one when my saw finally arrived from Felder earlier this year. The quality of the cuts is absolutely fantastic- the only downside is that I’m more nervous using that blade Incase I damage it !! How tuff are the diamond tips actually, I’d love to know how it’s cutting now after more use and if there has been anything that damaged the blade in use . Thanks for the videos- liked ,commented and subscribed👍
I still use it and it is still in excellent condition. Under a microscope however some of the diamonds has some micro chips in it. I think that happened when customers bring me dirty wood. Also a customer brought me some crooked pressure treated 4x4 and asked me to cut it at a 45 degree angle. The blade overheated but fortunately it is still pretty straight. Now when a customer bring me wood, I use a cheap blade. You will notice after a while that your diamond blade won’t cut as good. Just soak it overnight in laquer thinner and the next morning use a brass brush to clean the diamond tooth. You blade will cut like new again.
I didn't even know this type of blade even existed.
Most people don't
@@frenchriversprings thanks for the video. I recently purchased some higher quality blades but they won't last forever. I'll have to look into these
Where did you get a small enough scoring blade? The thinnest Felder sells is 2.8mm and I think you want a 2.5-2.6mm.
Yes the scoring blade is a bit too thick even with all the shims removed. I was actually going to call Felder tomorrow to see if they have a thinner scoring blade. But now you tell me it doesn’t exist. 😭 I just did a small kitchen and I regret having used my scoring blade. Next time I won’t use it. With the diamond blade, the chip out on the melamine is very minuscule.
@@frenchriversprings If you happen to find one, let me know. I’m going to call Felder this week to see what they suggest.
I called Felder today and no luck. They gave me a number to call and they also could not get me a 2.5mm scoring blade. 😭 Let me know if you find something
@@frenchriversprings is a 2.5 scoring blade the proper size to have or is it based on the main blade thickness your using? Or if you have a thicker main blade, do you then just line up one edge of the scoring blade to the main blade? Thx
@@tundrawhisperer4821 the main blade is 2.8 The scoring blade is also 2.8 but come with shims so you can make it wider in case you buy a blade wider than 2.8 The scoring blade has an adjustment side to side. Very easy and fast to do. So sadly I cannot get a 2.5mm scoring blade to match my diamond blade.
What dado blade are you using? Is the Felder set up to take an 8” dado? Thx
Yes the dado blade I use is 8”. I bought it at felder group but is not a felder brand. You can buy a felder dado but they are really expensive. I’m happy with my dado set.
@12:14 that rear hold down clamp, is that an aftermarket or a Felder brand hold down clamp? Thx
Aftermarket. It’s a Greg clamp and I modified it a bit
@@frenchriversprings Greg? Or Kreg? Thx
Oops. Kreg
My 700s is coming in December and i will definitely be picking up this blade! 99% of what i cut is white melamine and this blade looks like it does a insane job . 562.00 here in the states
I wondered if anybody noticed: 4:18 the guys shows cross-cut end piece of wood, but what he did is turn the piece and shows the wrong end. You can clearly see chipping by the blade. That is wrong. You got paid by the company
I wonder if anyone's tried diamond teeth on either a bandsaw or swing-blade sawmill. I'd expect it to handle hitting metal in a log far better than conventional blades do.
Did you get rid of the sawstop
Yes I sold it.. Could have sold it 5 times in 24 hours
hows the blade holding up now?
Still just like new. It’s the ONLY blade I use. Love it!
I always wondered what mdf factories and companies used , this has to be it, because carbide blades are eaten alive by mdf
2:38 - 😳 Never in all my days*... Wow.
* Over 15,000 of them.
Wow that's impressive. I thought my Forrest was cutting nice...this is wow. Especially the rip on the thick maple.
Yes i had the Forest blade and this is even better.
Excellent cuts the cost would be offset in short order due to reduced preparation time at assembly. Any idea as to the lifetime of such a blade ❓
I don’t know but I assume 10 times longer then carbide tip blade cause diamond is so much harder
Not to mention time spent not changing blades from ripping to cross cutting to sheet goods.
Factory says that 20 times longer than carbide. I am using mine for one year and no signs of wear at all.
Bizarre tooth geometry. You’d think it wouldn’t be able to clear the chips fast enough.
Y’a I know. But it does
what in the world
Wow no burn marks!!! Bob
The blade costs more than my saw. I better upgrade.
Lol
@@frenchriversprings I was also thinking about that :))))
leitz blades they cost alot but you get what you pay for
Your Felder uses a 12 inch blade. Most table saws use a 10 inch blade, so I am thinking it could be much cheaper for the smaller size and from competitive suppliers vice OEM
Yes. Hopefully the smaller size diamond blade will exist in the future
I sure its for cutting concrete n marble not wood..
That blade is specifically designed to cut wood
@@frenchriversprings ok cool, maybe you could do a short video on the design n the differences to a masonry disc, why its designed for wood, how it cuts so fantastically maybe even get them to sponsor your video send you a new blade then try to cut different materials see what would damage or destroy it. 👍👍
OUCH! $700 for a wood blade. I can barely afford my Forrest blades. 😁. But I guess that computes, my $3K Powermatic saw gets the $200 blade, your $25K Felder saw gets the $700 blade. 👍🏻
I live in Canada so that Felder cost me 25k with all the accessories and shipping and tax and installation.
@@frenchriversprings Wow! Expensive stuff!
have you had a chance to do the 5 point or three point plywood cut to check to see how square the saw is cutting?
@@tundrawhisperer4821 you will never go wrong with Forrest.
@@jhart7304 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Bonjour, ici en Belgique je peux l’acheter pour 468 €. 👍👍🇧🇪
Movember mustache?
Sorry not doing the movember mustache this year
@@frenchriversprings okay 😔
Wow.. thats impressive.. just goes to show, you get what you pay for eh?
Yep. Should last a very long time also.
Video and audio sucks