I dunno, this is a masterpiece but I have had to listen many times. For me I suspect something is a masterpiece and still I have to listen many times to confirm.
I hear the Bartok somewhat obviously early in the piece - the piano part, not the scoring for Symphony, perhaps there is some Shostakovich as you point out in the symphony. I hear a lot of America. The boisterousness and the crowded alley ways...and the distorted or perverse "My country tis of thee" at 6:55 followed by Roy Harris. Don't know if the America is a direct influence or his own parallel development of style.
I come to this schnittke piece knowing the later works. Although there are echos of other composers here I do not see that as a reason to put it down or to not very much enjoy it. Not only is this piece very much worth listening to in its own right but without having cut his teeth writing pieces like this he could not have gone on to write his more mature works. Even really good composers like Schnittke have to go through the tunnel of being heavily influenced by others until they can emerge into their own style. And the tunnel here is a beautiful and interesting one.
This concerto is not as dark as most scores of Schnittke. He was rather young (26) when he wrote it. Perhaps the political and health problems occured later. I do not know enough the biography of Schnittke to be clear about that. The concerto is very well written.
Schnittke's film music is also "eatable" comparing to his latest works. The partial answer why his latest music is so dark you can get here ruclips.net/video/xcfmU-qgJHM/видео.html
This is the least Schnittke like piece I have heard so far. Really straightforward in terms of expression and less surprising or radically contrasting. Do not judge this as a depreciative comment, just the first thoughts that come into me when I hear this.
Don't know if any of you guys know the concerto for piano and small orchestra by Irwin Schulhoff from 1923 (ruclips.net/video/10F3IxZkoCs/видео.html)? There are real similarities. Compare 3 minutes in here with 12.30 in the Schulhoff. This is not in any way a criticism. I don't imagine that Schnittke would ever have had an opportunity to hear the Schulhoff. Later in the work - around 20 minutes - very obvious echoes of Bartok sonata for two pianos and percussion. But - a composer of 25-26y old is clearly going to reflect their formative influences. Sibelius 1 is rehashed Tchaikovsky - well not entirely but you know what I mean. It is inevitable that you see composers finding their own voice with time. It is undoubtedly a work full of boisterous humour, confidence and it's just really fun to listen to!
What an utterly absurd and pompous comment. Schnittke was in his mid 20's when he wrote this and it is clearly a youthful work full of the ebullience of youth. Reminds me of Bartok's first. Very different from his later work, but nonetheless full of fizz and very enjoyable. If you are so hide-bound by your narrow minded modernist purism then you will miss out on a lot of music which contains a lot to admire. And do you know what? Even if you didn't enjoy listening to it, other people clearly do. The only "rediculous" thing is your arrogant comment.
@@stephenmitchell367 Ghastly response. People are entitled to their views. I could chastise all those who think this music sounds like .......Bartok, Prokofiev, Khachaturian, Shostakovich, Ravel, ad nauseum. If they understood anything about music, it's construction is not written like anything any of those composers wrote in their lives! But if they think it sounds like it...good luck to them! Open your mind.
I hear Schnittke.......................brilliant composition.
i thinck i am before a masterpiece. I can like it without thinking or hearing 100 times ....
I dunno, this is a masterpiece but I have had to listen many times. For me I suspect something is a masterpiece and still I have to listen many times to confirm.
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Incredible. Is it Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Bartok, Ravel ? No it's Schnittke.
Don’t delete this comment ever
That Andante movement is a stroke of beautiful personal expression that I have seldom come across elsewhere. Just sublime.
A very energetic Schnittke which one has to cherish!
Sure there are influences, but Schnittke has his own style and writes wonderful music.
I perceive influences or winks of all kinds! Here for example from Prokofiev. He is a composer who has mastered his art anyway
I hear the Bartok somewhat obviously early in the piece - the piano part, not the scoring for Symphony, perhaps there is some Shostakovich as you point out in the symphony. I hear a lot of America. The boisterousness and the crowded alley ways...and the distorted or perverse "My country tis of thee" at 6:55 followed by Roy Harris. Don't know if the America is a direct influence or his own parallel development of style.
Prokofiev too....
Beautiful composition !
Thanks a lot
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Bravissimi!!!
I come to this schnittke piece knowing the later works. Although there are echos of other composers here I do not see that as a reason to put it down or to not very much enjoy it. Not only is this piece very much worth listening to in its own right but without having cut his teeth writing pieces like this he could not have gone on to write his more mature works. Even really good composers like Schnittke have to go through the tunnel of being heavily influenced by others until they can emerge into their own style. And the tunnel here is a beautiful and interesting one.
Assai godibile
grazie!
This concerto is not as dark as most scores of Schnittke. He was rather young (26) when he wrote it. Perhaps the political and health problems occured later. I do not know enough the biography of Schnittke to be clear about that. The concerto is very well written.
Schnittke's film music is also "eatable" comparing to his latest works. The partial answer why his latest music is so dark you can get here ruclips.net/video/xcfmU-qgJHM/видео.html
Add to my favorites
Everyone talks about Bartok, but I'm hearing Ravel at the beginning
Very inviting texture
This is the least Schnittke like piece I have heard so far. Really straightforward in terms of expression and less surprising or radically contrasting. Do not judge this as a depreciative comment, just the first thoughts that come into me when I hear this.
great
II 5:32
III 19:14
I feel the touch of Bartok and Shostakovich.
+Aga Truszkiewicz This makes me think more of Poulenc though.
+Artur Korotin I'd agree, this piece shares a lot of similarities with Poulenc's own concerto for 2 pianos
That's exactly the piece I was thinking of!
As for me, I hear mostly Stravinsky
I fell something better.
This can’t be the only upload of this piece on RUclips? Or can it? 🤔
Don't know if any of you guys know the concerto for piano and small orchestra by Irwin Schulhoff from 1923 (ruclips.net/video/10F3IxZkoCs/видео.html)? There are real similarities. Compare 3 minutes in here with 12.30 in the Schulhoff. This is not in any way a criticism. I don't imagine that Schnittke would ever have had an opportunity to hear the Schulhoff. Later in the work - around 20 minutes - very obvious echoes of Bartok sonata for two pianos and percussion. But - a composer of 25-26y old is clearly going to reflect their formative influences. Sibelius 1 is rehashed Tchaikovsky - well not entirely but you know what I mean. It is inevitable that you see composers finding their own voice with time. It is undoubtedly a work full of boisterous humour, confidence and it's just really fun to listen to!
I'm hearing similarities in composition of sounds and tonality but the melody and theme differs.
Actually quite interesting!
nice !
I feel also Prokofiev influence in 3d moove (second main theme like in Prokofiev's 2nd piano concerto.
I feel it through the whole piece, actually.
funny, the one composer I hear above all in this piece is Stravinsky
04:10
Hey man , what the painting did you choose as a background?
Most righteous.
Smells like Khachaturian
Here A. Schnittke must have lost himself inside Rachmaninov's nostalgia. Ridiculous, disgusting.
Balam A. what?
What an utterly absurd and pompous comment. Schnittke was in his mid 20's when he wrote this and it is clearly a youthful work full of the ebullience of youth. Reminds me of Bartok's first. Very different from his later work, but nonetheless full of fizz and very enjoyable. If you are so hide-bound by your narrow minded modernist purism then you will miss out on a lot of music which contains a lot to admire. And do you know what? Even if you didn't enjoy listening to it, other people clearly do. The only "rediculous" thing is your arrogant comment.
I fully agree with you.
@@stephenmitchell367 Ghastly response. People are entitled to their views. I could chastise all those who think this music sounds like .......Bartok, Prokofiev, Khachaturian, Shostakovich, Ravel, ad nauseum. If they understood anything about music, it's construction is not written like anything any of those composers wrote in their lives! But if they think it sounds like it...good luck to them! Open your mind.
You and David are the reason so many people fucking hate classical musicians, myself included.