@@Boryspitzanzxenough of utilising generalising and differentiating terms such as -'Psychopathic' - 'narcissistic' etc. to categorise and differentiate those who are deemed as 'different' as opposed to the social accepted standard that has been spewed within the Modern Era of Humans based off of the Modern Ideological Dogma to what a Human being should be overall based from the 'Social Norm' - or the accepted social standard of how to perceive a Human to be a 'Human'...
@@anttikettunen8601 Except he is genuinely trying to make Ryan happy. He’s trying to give him everything he never had as a child. He doesn’t want Ryan to grow up lonely and without anyone to take care of him as he did. He just doesn’t realize that he is simply not the person Ryan needs
Being upset when his son is playing with an extremely dangerous, foul-mouthed old man like Butcher?! That's normal dadding; I don't know why anyone is confused about this.
Yeah. They don't do these dialogues but that's what they think - since Homelander is a character in a series, he must speak these things so it's more apparent here.
enough of utilising generalising and differentiating terms such as any Personality Disorders, which include certain subsets of this contrived abstraction and that is 'narcissistic' - 'ASPD, Sociopath, Psychopath' etc. to categorise and differentiate those who are deemed as 'different' as opposed to the social accepted standard that has been spewed within the Modern Era of Humans based off of the Modern Ideological Dogma to what a Human being should be overall based from the 'Social Norm' - or the accepted social standard of how to perceive a Human to be a 'Human'...
@@godzillazfriction This actually points out one of the weaknesses in the writing regarding Homelander's Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). People with NPD are always trying to hide it and become very upset when they are "found out." Homelander should become very upset when others point out his constant need for the admiration of others, but he engages them in conversation and even admits to his needs and doesn't try to hide it. Those with NPD often don't even like to admit those needs to themselves. In their minds, they are superior to everyone else and acknowledging that they need other people for anything is something they will refuse to admit (pretty much what Homelander's mirror image is doing). Those with NPD are always trying to manipulate others to get their needs met and that becomes difficult when people know what to watch for, such as having diagnostic criteria. Diagnostic criteria even existing would be very upsetting for those with traits seen in Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Anti-Social Personality Disorder.
@@TheSuperhomosapien thank you for completely misinterpreting my comment... there's no such thing as 'NPD' it's an informal label based on a spectrum that's within the Human Genome and not something that is labeled nor categorised to generalise & differentiate from a subset to what a 'Human' should be as in essence...
He isn’t a sociopath why do people say this word without knowing what it means? He has empathy and loves his son but intense narcissistic tendencies make him believe all the horrible stuff he does is right
@@Omxrta he doesnt have empathy like normal people, he has empathy on a miniscule level, and even then he has to be in the center of that empathy. He believes he loves his son, he wants to love his son, because all he does know about "love" came from Madelyn and Edgar...which is not love. He is a sociopath because he has feelings, he knows what he is doing is wrong sometimes, and has some feelings for some people, that is why he isnt a psychopath.
@@ADRIANOS259Just to be clear Butcher is more of a sociopath than Homelander, he didn't cared of the fact that Malorie's baby was in the house back in s1 and also Homelander saved the baby
I think that auctully says a lot. Homelander had basically a blanket. He seems deeply conflicted vs genuinely being upset. He is a dysfunctional sociopath but this can break him. Ryan is a mirror and he doesn't want Ryan to be treated like he was. Homelander also has 0 reference so he just knows he needs someone to care about him and no one auctully does.
@@krishvids608 That’s sorta what I mean, Ryan can see and hear him muttering gibberish to broken glass. It doesn’t have to be many words for him to look crazy.
In my opinion, he must pay attention to the noise so the superhearing can work. In the same episode, Hughie was watching and etc homelander, but he only did hear and smell Hughie when he started to pay attention. Probably is the same thing hear. Ryan would hear if he is paying attention.
what homelander can’t understand is that ryan already knows what genuine parental love & connection is supposed to feel like bc of his mother. so of course HL is losing his grip on him
I like how is split in 3 now. What's left of his humanity, pure self-hatred for being vulnerable, and the main one: childhood trauma. It's the dominant one bc he has been trying to overcompensate the whole time.
@@AmbereighHe does to an extent. He's using him to fulfill his own benefit. He cares about Ryan but only to the extent of what Ryan means to him, and not actually about being the best possible person Ryan needs. He wants Ryan's approval because it'll enable his toxicity. Of course, the opposite does so too, but in a different more roundabout way.
At his core, Homelander is trying to be the best father he can be to Ryan, he's given him everything that he never had as a child. In Homelander's perspective, there is some merit to what he says.
@@Deadlyvoltage3 Well you real-world humans share a lot of the same speciesm and moral double standards as homelander does. But you're right on all points, I agree.
When you are so insecure that you are scared of loosing your sons affection to a dying man with 6 months to live who your son doesnt like very much anyway.
i mean, Butcher was like his foster dad when Ryan was with Mallory, and we saw how excited Ryan was when he came for a Visit, it was only after Butcher broke his heart that he turned away from him.
@@readthiscomment6748 jeah, for example that one time he ran out of the house to Butcher, and hugged him. or how he called him, and was concerned when he saw Butcher had a rough night. totally doesn´t like him.
This scene is really showing Homelanders maturity. Hes still that scared little boy who yearns to be loved by a mother and father. All those insecurities and childhood tramua trapped inside someone with a little guidance and a huge ego. Cant wait to see where the show takes homelander’s character as the season continues
@@gowtham8909actually that's very common in various scolds. "In my times things were tougher", "i've given you everything i had", "you're ungrateful", "i raised you to have the opportunities i never could have". This scene was so relatable because it really feels like something i either have seen in real life or have heard of somewhere else before.
At least Homelander had enough sense left not to follow Ryan 😭 Also Ryan runs away (smart decision) but doesn't flinch throughout the whole scene, way to go Homeboy
@@brandonm5130 I don't think Homelander can harm Ryan tbh. Ryan is the same if not stronger and more powerful due to being a natural born supe and younger.
@@Bende33 Spider-Man wouldn't make it easy, his Spider Sense would likely warn him before the lasers hit. He might not get away completely unscathed but he has dodged things like that before.
1:52 The one on the left is soft and caring the one on the right is more rough and cold and the one in the upper middle is the center of both like a Supervisor but still homelander is still crazy but you cant help but feel for him sometimes.
What a great callback to Willem Dafoe talking to himself in Spiderman, it even has a simmilar energy as that conversation between Osborn and the Green Goblin.
I was sooo proud of homelander for being open about his feelings with Ryan before he raged out. 😢 I just wanted Ryan to hug him and tell him what homelander always wanted isn’t what he always wanted. They were so close!! And homelander actor was DEFINITELY channeling the 2002 green goblin and he knocked it out the park.
Homelander is a narrassist. And like all narrasistic parents, he doesn't love his son because he's his son. He "loves"(or at least his definition of loves) his son because he sees him as an extension of himself.
Sad that there are a lot of parents who will force what they want to their children. They think what they want, trheir child wants too. I think this is because they dont see their child as an actual person with free will. Rather as a property.
Man, I was so scared Homelander was going to grab Ryan and thrash him until he broke him and made Ryan promise he'll stay away from Butcher. I am terrified he will lose it and eventually hit Ryan, even though he does love him in his own way. Ryan is such a sensitive boy, I'm worried he'll be too scared to leave his situation. I pray for his safety and for someone to save him.
You know that Split isn't actually portraying DID and just bulls--tting the audience about this severe almost completely female disorder? this has nothing to do with DID or even schizophrenia. with schizophrenia you don't "see" your voices, with DID (undiagnosed) until that age it's almost impossible to stay connected to the personas and even know about each other. that does not portray any disorder, just early childhood development t*auma = neglect and so on. It wouldn't wonder me if HL would show also signs of hospitalism with that state or something else exept his Oedipus complex, love for milk.
Boy, they really didnt rip off Goblin and Willem Defoe with one of those personalities in the broken mirror at all, if not the whole mirror scene altogether.
1:03 Homelander: You love him so much, why don't you get him to be your dad? Ryan Butcher: No, I, I don't want him to be my dad, y-- Homelander: ENOUGH! ENOUGH!
The interesting thing is he acts like a abusive narcissist parent does to manipulate their kids. Homelander is actually genuine with how he feels actually. Which is sad but not justified at all.
i don't understand Homelander haters. Dude he is the best and coolest villain i have ever seen he is the Reason i watch this show otherwise who cares about butcher and his other clown friende
You could say Homelander & Butcher have a rocky relationship 😬 ruclips.net/video/JfNpHC0Llr8/видео.html
Boulder
One of the common mistakes parents in general making is thinking their child wants the same thing as they want, not just homelander.
I suppose that’s true
I can actually relate to that statement...
Yup, same here. It gets worse if they are sociopaths. And it gets way worse if they are psychopaths. Thankfully, im in the former.
My father's and mine way of raising was giving what was NEEDED not wanted
@@Boryspitzanzxenough of utilising generalising and differentiating terms such as -'Psychopathic' - 'narcissistic' etc. to categorise and differentiate those who are deemed as 'different' as opposed to the social accepted standard that has been spewed within the Modern Era of Humans based off of the Modern Ideological Dogma to what a Human being should be overall based from the 'Social Norm' - or the accepted social standard of how to perceive a Human to be a 'Human'...
Homelander getting close to asking "whats another 17 years?"
Except that he actually only needs like 15 years
He getting old.
😂😅
Omniman
It’s funny you mention that considering this season has made a point that Homelander is in fact aging at normal human rate
Notice how he said I given you everything I ever wanted, directors really understood homelander's character
That is the most beautiful part about the whole scene. Still all about him.
didnt even notice it the first time watching lol
@@anttikettunen8601 Except he is genuinely trying to make Ryan happy. He’s trying to give him everything he never had as a child. He doesn’t want Ryan to grow up lonely and without anyone to take care of him as he did. He just doesn’t realize that he is simply not the person Ryan needs
@anttikettunen8601 still think your "beloved" father loves you ryan?
@@jameslough6329you are the only one who actualy understand homelander, everyone Just things he is a narsist.
I like how his anger is different here. His eyes don't light up like usual cuz of how vulnerable he's being with Ryan
Just shows how great of an actor Anthony is. Hope he gets more roles after this.
Yeah Anthony must be a real Starr if he can make his eyes light up on cue like that.
Notice how he regretted almost instantly scaring ryan away, at least now ryan see what a monster he is
@brandr7964 that was gonna happen sooner or later . Hope ryan turns out better than homelander.
@@thebyrdcage8619 he will, I hope so
This mirror scene was special. They absolutely nailed it.
It was perfect. Perfect. Down to the last minute detail.
Madness
Very Green Goblin / Norman Osborn-esque.
@@Rongez at this point he should act as Green Goblin in MCU, he is perfect for evil roles
Inside out 3 leaked
Homelander was raised as a lab rat which makes it obvious he doesn't know what father figure means
That’s true
Being upset when his son is playing with an extremely dangerous, foul-mouthed old man like Butcher?! That's normal dadding; I don't know why anyone is confused about this.
@@gentbluehe's not upset because of that, he's jealous because ryan prefers butcher over him. It's not that hard to understand
@@gentblue I think you are the only one confused about this lol
@@gentblueI don’t think anybody is confused about this but you. He’s clearly annoyed that Ryan still cares for Butcher and jealous of it at as well.
Whoever writes Homelander really understands Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Yeah. They don't do these dialogues but that's what they think - since Homelander is a character in a series, he must speak these things so it's more apparent here.
enough of utilising generalising and differentiating terms such as any Personality Disorders, which include certain subsets of this contrived abstraction and that is 'narcissistic' - 'ASPD, Sociopath, Psychopath' etc. to categorise and differentiate those who are deemed as 'different' as opposed to the social accepted standard that has been spewed within the Modern Era of Humans based off of the Modern Ideological Dogma to what a Human being should be overall based from the 'Social Norm' - or the accepted social standard of how to perceive a Human to be a 'Human'...
@@godzillazfriction This actually points out one of the weaknesses in the writing regarding Homelander's Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). People with NPD are always trying to hide it and become very upset when they are "found out." Homelander should become very upset when others point out his constant need for the admiration of others, but he engages them in conversation and even admits to his needs and doesn't try to hide it. Those with NPD often don't even like to admit those needs to themselves. In their minds, they are superior to everyone else and acknowledging that they need other people for anything is something they will refuse to admit (pretty much what Homelander's mirror image is doing). Those with NPD are always trying to manipulate others to get their needs met and that becomes difficult when people know what to watch for, such as having diagnostic criteria. Diagnostic criteria even existing would be very upsetting for those with traits seen in Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Anti-Social Personality Disorder.
@@TheSuperhomosapien thank you for completely misinterpreting my comment...
there's no such thing as 'NPD' it's an informal label based on a spectrum that's within the Human Genome and not something that is labeled nor categorised to generalise & differentiate from a subset to what a 'Human' should be as in essence...
@@godzillazfrictionyou're gaslighting
That acting from Anthony though. Deserve an Oscar.
Emmy but still true.
@@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit oscars are for movies
@@Nobodysurvivesevenonebitembarrassing
@@Nobodysurvivesevenonebitbrotha eww
@@theedgyboy4644A Homelander RL movie surely is coming before the cast is too old!
Its sad that homelander acts like child himself
well I mean on the inside he still is one, he never got to grow up
Pathetic
To reference Michael Jackson, he never had a childhood, he's just going about it the wrong way.
He is a deeply flawed individual
@@O-bearer-mineDoes that mean Homelander diddles kids as part of his child like mentality? 😐
I was concerned seeing Ryan's smile in the final shot of S3 - now I see how incapable Homelander is as a father, it's almost sad
Me too. I was thinking he was going to become "Homelander Jr."
@@terrelltownsend8016 don't rule that out yet
It shows that he still wants to be a better person
It is almost certain that Ryan will not become like his father, either. He is too human and too much like his mother to abandon moral principle.
@@forestfire47 exactly
When you feel empathy and sorry for a terrible sociopathic monster like Homelander you know the actor, Anthony Starr is really great at his job
Thats the Thing. Everyone knows he ist beyond redemption but also that IT could be different if Vought didnt mess him Up so much.
He isn’t a sociopath why do people say this word without knowing what it means? He has empathy and loves his son but intense narcissistic tendencies make him believe all the horrible stuff he does is right
@@Omxrta he doesnt have empathy like normal people, he has empathy on a miniscule level, and even then he has to be in the center of that empathy. He believes he loves his son, he wants to love his son, because all he does know about "love" came from Madelyn and Edgar...which is not love. He is a sociopath because he has feelings, he knows what he is doing is wrong sometimes, and has some feelings for some people, that is why he isnt a psychopath.
@@ADRIANOS259Just to be clear Butcher is more of a sociopath than Homelander, he didn't cared of the fact that Malorie's baby was in the house back in s1 and also Homelander saved the baby
@@d.c.741They both hate kids
You can tell that Homelander isn't even being manipulative here, he is just genuinely hurt and can't understand why.
a true narcissist lol 😂
I gave you everything that "I" ever wanted 💀
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" Everything I wanted. Not what you need, but what I wanted" Narc!!
I think that auctully says a lot. Homelander had basically a blanket. He seems deeply conflicted vs genuinely being upset. He is a dysfunctional sociopath but this can break him. Ryan is a mirror and he doesn't want Ryan to be treated like he was. Homelander also has 0 reference so he just knows he needs someone to care about him and no one auctully does.
Why do I feel like the full story of Homelanders origins in this series is going to be more heart-breaking than we expected?
ding. ding. ding.
😢
Take notes of what the russians did to soldier boy, it's the same with homelander but they did experiments on him while he was still a baby
We kind of already got a hint of sadness back in S1 so I’m happy to see more.
We also saw it in diabolical @@Davon85J
It’s following the comics and I think this season is gonna finally reveal that noir was behind everything in his childhood
The hurt in his voice when he asks why is what really sells it. It makes the best inevitable snap so much better.
Ryan has his exact same power-set, so he can hear and see his dad’s batshit ramblings with the broken window from his room. 😬
I think the other himelanders in the mirror were just his thoughts- the actual homelander only muttered a few words in that scene
@@krishvids608 That’s sorta what I mean, Ryan can see and hear him muttering gibberish to broken glass. It doesn’t have to be many words for him to look crazy.
In my opinion, he must pay attention to the noise so the superhearing can work. In the same episode, Hughie was watching and etc homelander, but he only did hear and smell Hughie when he started to pay attention. Probably is the same thing hear. Ryan would hear if he is paying attention.
It’s a mirror btw 😂
This is one of the most well acted scenes in the entire show
what homelander can’t understand is that ryan already knows what genuine parental love & connection is supposed to feel like bc of his mother. so of course HL is losing his grip on him
Monsters are created not born
I like how is split in 3 now.
What's left of his humanity, pure self-hatred for being vulnerable, and the main one: childhood trauma.
It's the dominant one bc he has been trying to overcompensate the whole time.
This is similar to when Norman Osborn and the green Goblin were exchanging words in the mirror in spiderman 1
As someone who grew up with a narcissistic parent
It’s scary how accurate they got that down with Homelander’s character.
@@cb-9938I don’t think homelander views Ryan as lesser at all though.
@@Ambereigh Dude…. It’s Homelander
He views everyone as lesser by default even other supes.
@@AmbereighHe does to an extent. He's using him to fulfill his own benefit. He cares about Ryan but only to the extent of what Ryan means to him, and not actually about being the best possible person Ryan needs. He wants Ryan's approval because it'll enable his toxicity. Of course, the opposite does so too, but in a different more roundabout way.
“I’ve given you everything I EVER WANTED”
He don’t even see it
At his core, Homelander is trying to be the best father he can be to Ryan, he's given him everything that he never had as a child. In Homelander's perspective, there is some merit to what he says.
Not a mom. Not a loving home. He just forces his anti-human agenda on Ryan and doesn’t let him stand as his own supe
@@Deadlyvoltage3 Well you real-world humans share a lot of the same speciesm and moral double standards as homelander does. But you're right on all points, I agree.
He says he's given him everything that Homelander ever wanted. There's a big difference if you catch that
The problem of that is that homelander is a psychopath who only cares for himself.
He sees Ryan as an extension of himself.
When you are so insecure that you are scared of loosing your sons affection to a dying man with 6 months to live who your son doesnt like very much anyway.
i mean, Butcher was like his foster dad when Ryan was with Mallory, and we saw how excited Ryan was when he came for a Visit, it was only after Butcher broke his heart that he turned away from him.
Is this a bot? What have you seen in the show that makes you think Ryan doesn't like butcher?
@josiahgonzalez942 you watched season 3?
@@readthiscomment6748 jeah, for example that one time he ran out of the house to Butcher, and hugged him. or how he called him, and was concerned when he saw Butcher had a rough night.
totally doesn´t like him.
Ryan's poor actor went through the middle part of voice changing during puberty at the literal worst time 💀
Idk I prefer his voice like this
I think its intentional cuz it fits to well.
its not that bad
A show where he's the son of a crazy man going through trying to become his own man is probably the best time that could ever happen lol
@@sebastianderrynah, hes been dubbed. Hes supposed to be 12, dude looks 15.
“I’ve given you everything that I ever wanted” His narcissism is so well written
Anthony Star deserves a nomination from this this scene
He also needs to be casted as reverse flash in james gunns dc.
That's for films only
@@Gufupandi09th13so they don't get any awards for TV shows at all
@@mohabalserafe3795 on Amazon I don't think so
That second "why?" Really felt it...then i remembered he's a psycho XD
This scene is really showing
Homelanders maturity. Hes still that scared little boy who yearns to be loved by a mother and father. All those insecurities and childhood tramua trapped inside someone with a little guidance and a huge ego. Cant wait to see where the show takes homelander’s character as the season continues
0:47 delivery on that “Why?” is really amazing, almost makes you feel bad for Homelander
This is starving for attention, soldier boy didn't know him personally but he could see very well through him
Probably because soldier saw himself in Homie
Speaking of Soldier Boy, where is he?
@@JeSsE10mCcOy11 locked up somewhere by the CIA
This scene made me feel like Homelander is gonna have an aneurism at some point.
He'll go super saian in S5 and take over the Whitehouse.
He's the strongest man physically and the weakest emotionally
Strongest supe In the verse, but the most fickle man alive.
Parents when you breathe: 0:36
Makes no sense, sounds like a child screaming for attention
@@gowtham8909actually that's very common in various scolds.
"In my times things were tougher", "i've given you everything i had", "you're ungrateful", "i raised you to have the opportunities i never could have".
This scene was so relatable because it really feels like something i either have seen in real life or have heard of somewhere else before.
@@manuelernesto7713read again bro, he is talking *specifically* for this scene not in general
At least Homelander had enough sense left not to follow Ryan 😭 Also Ryan runs away (smart decision) but doesn't flinch throughout the whole scene, way to go Homeboy
I mean he knows homelander is violent but not to the same degree as others because homelander acts caring around him sometimes
@@brandonm5130 I don't think Homelander can harm Ryan tbh. Ryan is the same if not stronger and more powerful due to being a natural born supe and younger.
Homeboy 😂
Omni-Man: What's the matter? Are you going to CRY??
Toby spiderman: Whittle bitty homelander gonna cry now?
@@thebyrdcage8619 bro homelander can laser spider man in half💀
@@Bende33 Spider-Man wouldn't make it easy, his Spider Sense would likely warn him before the lasers hit. He might not get away completely unscathed but he has dodged things like that before.
Spider-Man is stronger than soldier boy @@Bende33
@@Bende33 He'd probably Need The Other to possess and power him up like when he fought Morlun
Now he has more mirror personalities... this man is near the breaking point
that awkward moment when you find out your son's been cheating on you with another dad.
Who knew that being a Sociopath with far too much power on his hands raised without love or affection in a lab would turn out to be a terrible father?
1:07 seven years bad luck
The sad thing is is that Homelander is giving Ryan not what he wants. But what Homelander would have wanted as a child.
"That I ever wanted." That tells you everything you need to know about how he views Ryan. He wants him to be nothing more than a clone of him.
“You are ungrateful”
yeah Homelander is the last person you want calling you ungrateful.
I knew Butcher didn’t have to try hard to convince Ryan about Homelander. Homelander was going to sabotage that himself.
Love how the camera angle makes homelander look up to talk to Ryan like he’s a child
That's a reach and likely not intended but still a way to look at this scene I guess
1:52 Homelander have himself as a family left side as a mom right side as a big brother and above as a dad,show how lonely he is
Actually, confronting the things that hurt you ain't the worst idea. But this is The Boys so it probably will be a bad idea.
Homelander isn't a monk or someone craving reconciliation, he's trying to crush what he deems weakness
This is going to go.... _terribly_ wrong
This scene reminded so much of my own father (who is a narcissist).
Anthony Starr did a fantastic job in this scene.
1:52 The one on the left is soft and caring the one on the right is more rough and cold and the one in the upper middle is the center of both like a Supervisor but still homelander is still crazy but you cant help but feel for him sometimes.
"WHY" 0:47 I can feel his emotions 😢 he deserves oscar 👏
The mirror shattered is so perfect visually.
What a great callback to Willem Dafoe talking to himself in Spiderman, it even has a simmilar energy as that conversation between Osborn and the Green Goblin.
His angrier, rougher voice even has a similar rasp to Dafoe's GG voice
It really goes to show how amazing Antony Starr is as an actor when some of the best scenes in the show are him just talking to himself
This is the strangest custody battle I've ever seen lol
I was sooo proud of homelander for being open about his feelings with Ryan before he raged out. 😢 I just wanted Ryan to hug him and tell him what homelander always wanted isn’t what he always wanted. They were so close!!
And homelander actor was DEFINITELY channeling the 2002 green goblin and he knocked it out the park.
How Anthony hasn’t won an award already is beyond me
he likes butcher more because he doesnt have sculptures of him self in his house
Who else come back to hear homelanders graceful voice? 😂
Homelander doesn’t see Ryan as anything other than an extension of himself. I didn’t see any ending where Ryan doesn’t end up against him
pure cap
@@whorxn how?
You just hate him too much
@@SolidarityOfSolidthat's the point of his charact... Never mind 🤦♂️
This makes Nolan a better father after this scene. Despite everything that he did.
Omni may have seen humans as weak, but his love for Mark was earnest and real. Homelander is too narcissistic and fragile to genuinely love
How does this man still doesn't have an Emmy?
Father’s Day weekends must be a little stressful for Ryan …
I gotta respect Homelander here. Sure, he is obviously immature. Still. Being father when you never got to have family love.
Homelander is talking too Ryan but he's speaking too himself
"I gave you everything *I* wanted"
Homelander desperately tries not to laser his only son 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Father: Homelander
Dad: Billy Butcher
Yes, there is a between these two terms.
“I’ve given you everything I always wanted…”
😂
Season 3 had most of us thinking "Wait, is Homelander actually a loving father?". Oh we couldn't have been more wrong.
i hate how bad i feel for homelander, he's like this bc of vought
Ryan's voice is so grating here. Sounds like he's going through peak puberty. Homelander's too sounds higher than usual.
This psycho called homelander never ceases to amaze me.
Homelander is a narrassist. And like all narrasistic parents, he doesn't love his son because he's his son. He "loves"(or at least his definition of loves) his son because he sees him as an extension of himself.
Big facts
Part of me feels bad, but then that part of me immediately gets shut down by my common sense.
You can feel the insecurity oozing out of him
I feel like there’s a psychological angle as to why he ditched the old red cape and went for the flag one
Sad that there are a lot of parents who will force what they want to their children. They think what they want, trheir child wants too. I think this is because they dont see their child as an actual person with free will. Rather as a property.
Man, I was so scared Homelander was going to grab Ryan and thrash him until he broke him and made Ryan promise he'll stay away from Butcher. I am terrified he will lose it and eventually hit Ryan, even though he does love him in his own way. Ryan is such a sensitive boy, I'm worried he'll be too scared to leave his situation. I pray for his safety and for someone to save him.
Ryan ran away from yelling father and Homelander is making a mess and that's why he scared Ryan
1:45 I like this shot: "The Broken Marble". I suppose this also alludes to his broken mental state.
Somebody's been watching M. Night Shyamalans Split.
You know that Split isn't actually portraying DID and just bulls--tting the audience about this severe almost completely female disorder? this has nothing to do with DID or even schizophrenia. with schizophrenia you don't "see" your voices, with DID (undiagnosed) until that age it's almost impossible to stay connected to the personas and even know about each other. that does not portray any disorder, just early childhood development t*auma = neglect and so on. It wouldn't wonder me if HL would show also signs of hospitalism with that state or something else exept his Oedipus complex, love for milk.
Ryan definitely heard him talking to himself
Boy, they really didnt rip off Goblin and Willem Defoe with one of those personalities in the broken mirror at all, if not the whole mirror scene altogether.
2:21 the intrusive thoughts turning on me the millisecond one of my friends acts different
i love how the person that heat most homelander is himselft
1:03 Homelander: You love him so much, why don't you get him to be your dad?
Ryan Butcher: No, I, I don't want him to be my dad, y--
Homelander: ENOUGH! ENOUGH!
*Looks around disoriented trying to keep himself from spiraling*
“I’ve given you everything that I could’ve wanted”
He really does not see that Ryan has different things he wants
The interesting thing is he acts like a abusive narcissist parent does to manipulate their kids. Homelander is actually genuine with how he feels actually. Which is sad but not justified at all.
Antony Star needs an award for this.
"HE HATES YOU...HES GONNA TURN ON YOU.."
Tbh the first few minutes was no different than any other parent staying up waiting for their child. Pity Homelander is nuts.
I think to Ryan Butcher is like an uncle/someone he can talk to and clearly someone he deeply care about not a dad.
The moment they all say you need to go back to the start i literally had shillsssssss
Homelanderh: fine...WHATS 17 MORE YEARS
I mean he does have firecracker
1:09 great shot
Cracked mirror representing homelanders fractured psych is such a nice touch.
0:18-0:23-0:30-0:40-1:07-1:09
" i give you everything that I ever wanted "
Dem that crazy 😔
i don't understand Homelander haters. Dude he is the best and coolest villain i have ever seen he is the Reason i watch this show otherwise who cares about butcher and his other clown friende
his character is cool, but his actions aren't.
Ikr (as a character), he is what Sheldon was for TBBT
even though i heard the og author say dont watch it, but the ryan and homelander scenes literally save this show
Homelander is losing control
he is more childish than his own child
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