As an Indonesian myself I just hope that the new generation of law students would be a fair citizen, not easily fooled by money and honest. so that they can fix this problem in indonesia
Good luck with that. This kind of thing goes way back and is institutional, a sort of "job" without a person having to get a real job because there aren't any left. There are way too many people there and that is the underlying problem. Free fertility visits, free condoms and free wanted sterilizations would help.
Getz 1983 well they may need money for medical treatment and depression in years to come! If you are messed with it messes you up for years. But that much is 😜 crazy. I don't think he did it. Take a lie detector test, do std test, etc. I would hate to have someone that isn't responsible of child sexually messing with a kid and being accused of it.
@@BrainyBeesTV712 Nah. I am lawyer from Indonesia. The mother's lawyer, OC Kaligis who now is in jail for the case of bribery, always demand such a high compensation money. I believe it is because the lawyer push the mother to make that demand.
This is so sad and shocking, especially for the Indonesians who are still in prison. That lady who made the false allegations is evil. So is that judge who didn't even look at the evidence and just went according to public opinion.
And the poor guy who got murdered for refusing to admit to something he never did.But where the hell is the Canadian Government? they need to act not talk diplomatic language.They need to ask Trump for advise,I'm serious. if this was an American, he would have been back home 3 years ago. do a Mexico on Indonesia.threaten them economically. but the pathetic Canadian Government is far too diplomatic and cares little for the man's justice.
@@rangerm3029 Trump doesn't give a rip about Justice and sounding like a fool doesn't do anybody any good. Sexual assault is one of many abuses his guilty of, unlike those wrongly accused here. Disgusting.
Yes! They didn't even dig into her finances to see if she was motivated by $ or debt she was in, 125mil? Gtfoh, she was a damn gold digger looking for a come up.
If her story about her child is true then show her face in television. She just wanted money and she's making/fabricating a story to make it real - I could sense that!
That's what I'm thinking as well. She's looking for an out of court settlement(money). Unfortunately, the issue spread like wild fire, so she have to stand with her out this world story. The child should be asked without the mother because she surely is coaching the child.
Not saying she innocent at all. However, I personally would never want my face on TV when it comes to a story like this innocent or not. Too many crazies in the world who go too far.
It isn't your fault, @Adhitia D. A. I hope you will help to live up to that sentiment though. If you have the guts to speak out here, you have the guts to go for it. But don't risk yourself. We need good people like you here on youtube.
What is this woman on?? She needs to be shown what real life is about !!! So the $125 million is chucked down the toilet bet the Indonesian govt are behind this
K B did you not see the evidence?? i don’t think ppl have their doubts. only the stubborn parents . anyone in their right mind can see these ppl are innocent! (& i say “these ppl” bcz i am utterly disgusted that no one seems to care about the other ppl STILL IN PRISON)
@beverly ledbetter believe me, it is not as bad as Indonesia. I had a chance to work with local government for a high profile across global business deal. Over the course of 13 months of discussions and negotiations, I discovered most local agencies I encountered were either unreliable or corrupted. Oftentimes, some high ranked officials could simply change rules and requirements without our knowledge albeit written binding rulings have been issued. They rarely honored written agreements they made. Every time when a so-called new "law/requirement" implemented, its admission /application fee would also increase and yet they required us to deposit money only to their selected local banks.
As an indonesian i feel ashamed by the fact that our law establishment are corrupt and controlled by money, i'm very aware that the rich are more immune to the law and have more advantage but criminalization of the innocents is something that makes me really really ashamed of my country. even from neutral perspective i still disagree that they can be proven guilty, there are not enough evidence and too much flaws in what the accuser told. if she's proven gave false report and arrange a scenario to make everybody think it really happened, her stubbornness will make her fall deeper when the table is turned.
Rendy Riansyah What would be the consequences of her making false accusations? She's safely tucked away in a western community. Very well said, thank you for an insiders opinion.
Cathie HPN if i remember it correctly i've heard from my friend in law school the consequences is prison for 7 years or less but that's only the consequence for making false accusation. there's very high chance she broke another law in the process of making that false accusations. yeah that is the problem the families had moved to another country. for your information there's someone that have been independently investigating this case and has found some strange things that could lead to evidences of making false accusations
Rendy Riansyah Thank you for taking the time to explain the case in more depth. Summarily ruining a man's life with egregious unfounded claims, asking for a very large amount of money for "damages", then moving out of the country destroys this woman's credibility. Again, thank you for the update.
And also many judge been bribe, yeah that time Indonesia was still vulnerable to corruption. Now, the Anti Corruption Committee is doing it's best because Jokowi said so. Nowadays, no one is safe from corruption.
I just realized that your comment just disrespectful to the parents of the children that school there and the staff and many other people that supports Neil so that he can get out of prison.
Corruption is a major problem in Indonesia. And the fact these children go to a prestigious International school, the parents both have the money and influence of putting Bantleman behind bars.
I wonder if one day that kid grows up and realizes how his accusations affected other people. How one person died and many others spent years in jail. This should NEVER have happened. I wonder if he'll feel guilty or have some amount of shame involved with this deed. The whole thing is a tragedy. That mother should be in jail herself.
The kid might have been a psychopath or schizophrenic or imagining things that never happened, I doubt he would ever come to realize that what he did was wrong nor feel guilty about it. Otherwise, he would have confessed after all these years.
As an Indonesian, I must say that I am appalled by the justice system, though not surprised. Indonesia is a place where MONEY can get you anything you want, including the justice system itself. Furthermore, the saying "innocent till proven guilty" does not really apply here, especially in high profile cases, like this one, where public opinion and money tends to win over the evidence or lack there of, in this case. Public opinion is formed via the media, media has the responsibility to tell the TRUTH, not sensationalizing contents for ratings, which media nowdays seems to forget.
The witch is in Europe because we can give her justice in Indonesia. People can find vigilantes to give the witch justice. She stretches her neck veins because she begs God to cut them.
Carriacou is the best place in the world, and if I have money there are so many countries that I will never never go to.Dont matter how nice or there's things I will love to see.SAD
Greedy parents, incompetent and corrupt police force and justice system. Poor innocent people have been thrown (back) to jail and one was abused and now dead. I hope all expats and Indonesian people help release these innocent convicts, especially the poor cleaners.
I know if these are people of religion. I can only imagine where their faith and trust in our higher power. I can't imagine how these people kept tjeir faith if had any.
Obviously have no idea how as an expat, living in some countries, you are a "target", many justice systems around the world behave like the children they should protect. It's about politics, power, money...but not about Justice...and Indonesia, is one of the worst, like how the cleaners were treated, they of course deserve it, as "they" are lower class people.....I don't think so!!!
+Aaron Chew I was offered a lucrative teaching job in Latin America. It was at an elite private high school in the capital. Some American friends would take me to a yacht club sometimes. I saw the high society of the country. They made me uncomfortable, because they had absolute power in that country. One phone call to authority and I would end up in prison for any, or for no reason. This is the culture in third world nations. I declined the teaching job.
+Aaron Chew Whether it be Indonesia, the US, Canada, Britain, it is all the same. Justice is corrupt. Officials are corrupt and money talks. That batshit crazy lady probably got together with the other 3 wealthy women whilst drinking tea and came up with this story just to get millions. She had no class whatsoever, loud, obnoxious. Oh she planned this for sure. I guess it is the same all over the world once a story gets into the press and public opinion is not on your side your gonna lose the case.
Corruption is alive and well! If the little boy has herpes, why isn't there any records of treatments! I think the boy's parents plotted it, inorder to win a lawsuit! Having said that, I feel sorry for all the innocent victims involved, especially the young lad you died in detention as a result of a horrible beating! When is wickedness going to cease! Sad really!!!!!!!
+padma salam They have lost face now and nothing will change if the boy has herpes why don't they test everyone involved including the cleaners in prison..the man that died was murdered for sure, probably had bleach forced into him...what is the feckin president doing thought he was trying to clean up corruption but it doesn't look like it..shame on you Mr President
Leenie H I am in agreement with that! Also the mother should have to face the justice system for plotting such an elaborate scheme! If the so call victim was from a poor family, no one would care about bringing the alleged perpetrators to justice! The scale of justice is unbalanced! always have, always will be!!!!!!!
+padma salam The fifth estate told the mother to take her son to one of the testing facilities and the test came back negative for herpes......I'm sure she still deserves that 125 million tho......
+padma salam Even the first Indonesian Doctor who initially issued the lab test has published her confession, telling the lab test and any records stated there were all written based on the request of the boy's mother. The image of the confession letter has spread virally here in Indonesia. When the case was outbreaking, (almost) all Indonesians were fulfilled with anger to JIS. We were even feeling unsafe to let our kids go to school. I admit it, I felt the same with others. However, once Pipit sued for USD 12.5 Mio (and lately increased 10 times), we started to think more clearly. "What if it's just Pipit's motivation for money?". Her greed has opened up people's eyes to the truth.
it's breaking my heart after i read the truth in Kaskus, and how 'they' treated the victims. I was in middle school when this case happened. I was thinking the teachers and those cleaners were monsters. From the deep of my heart, I'm sorry.
Exactly...she probably protested for women's right and equality to get that position....and that's what she have to show for. She said the defendant showed no emotion or remorse but she did the same when throwing out legitimate evidence
@@gamestv4875 What are you talking about? Those kids were 5 and 6 year old kids. What kind of interactions do you think that teacher had with the students? You almost sound like you're blaming him for what happened!
What a complete injustice... It just shows you Indonesia is a corrupt country... Those judges should be disbarred.... Those mothers should be charged and put in jail..
abcd81010 Wtf. You act like there not bad things happening in America. Just think about the Turpin case or the Mary Stauffer case. All countries have flaws, some more than others. But don’t you dare say that Indonesia is a horrible country. I’m Indonesian and I think even with all these things happening Indonesia is he best country in the world
I lived in Indonesia for a year back in the eighties. When I was there it was a common occurrence for suspected petty criminals to be found dead floating in drainage canals with their hands bound behind their backs using zip ties of a certain color that everybody knew was an unofficial yet recognized trademark of the police. That's how justice worked. Faster and more cost effective than court trials but a greater margin of error. What convicted all the suspects in this case was the publicity. The police had to convict somebody. And once they convicted some poor Indonesians they had to convict some foreigners as well to restore a sense of balance.
Vere Buttbuttbutt Obviously North Korea's is worse, that's not saying much though. The best way to know the difference between a developed and developing country is the soundness of the judicial system. Indonesia's system is still in the medieval ages.
Warsilver nope. thats not actually the different. ive read too many law mishap even in usa. esp discrimination. i'm not indonesian but the rich and powerful really scared me sometimes.
so appreciate what you did cbc. so sick with my nation's law.. you could see that there's no justice but money here... I'll fight for those innocents who spend the rest of their life in jail no matter what
Thank you CBC for trying to actively pursue the truth. Curious how come there aren't any child psychologist involved or at least some kind of lie detector test?
+LelouchL3 Both of those things were utilized. Neil passed 3 lie detector tests, as did Ferdi. This was dismissed by the panel of judges, as was numerous testimony from expert forensic child psychologists who worked with the children after the accusations were made, and said the children did not display behaviours consistent with trauma. What's also important to note is that tests were performed on the children to examine for signs of sexual abuse, not just testing for Herpes (of which Neil and Ferdi were tested, both negative. If the children were indeed sodomized multiple times per day, over a period of months by EIGHT suspects, there would be physical signs to prove it.) The results of multiple anoscopies came back negative, meaning the children were not sodomized in any way. All of this, as well as numerous other forms of evidence in support of Neil and Ferdi's case was rejected by the judges panel.Not to mention that the prosecutor couldn't even identify when or where the alleged crimes took place. The indictment literally states, "At a time and place that can no longer be recalled with certainty, somewhere with in South Jakarta during 2014-2015...the accused are being tried for sexual assault". It's crazy. No proof, no timeline, no evidence, yet.....guilty? It's heartbreaking. Unfortunately, there are SO many inconsistencies that have taken place with this case, that CBC couldn't address all of it in a one-hour segment. Thank you for also wanting to understand the case, and the search for truth and justice. So many are quick to assume guilt without looking into the situation.
Despite all the improvement in Indonesia, the law system is almost not change for decades or even worse. Police, judges, attorneys, prosecutors, they all corrupted, compromising justice for money
this is why i'm sick of my nation's law and its people. money can easily blind us, and opinion is messed up with facts. that old hag need to be arrested asap
If you're going to ruin so many life's maybe you should at least do it WITH YOUR FACE SHOWING. You can protect your child by NOT showing him on camera! SHOW YOURSELF.
one thing you should know about indonesia, when all the opinion, and people of indonesia is against you. that's mean you're on the right side. so, whenever you see many indonesian people say something, do the opposite. and, actually i am indonesian
Wow these mothers are everywhere. They are called monster parents here in Japan...and usually its the mom, especially ones that are a higher class than the average people. I have had to deal with a few of those mothers here in Japan. It is crazy what kind of BS these mothers come up with. Thank God I was smarter than them and I caught them in a bunch of their twisted lies before they sucked other mothers in. It's too bad because there are times when some bad does happen, but there is so much BS out there you have sift through everything carefully. 12.5M??!? WTF?!?!?! 125M WT 'quazillion' F? False test and still mother inisisten.... Doesn't matter skin colour, culture, race..some people are really horrible...
What a backwards country. This is insane. It's completely clear that they have no evidence that an assault even happened. At least they didn't torture him.
They should lock that lying money-grubbing cont in jail for the rest of her life for trying to send an innocent man to jail and making up false accusations and medical records !! Plus the judge needs to be fired from her position immediately and jailed for her own ignorance and not reviewing the evidence like a real judge should !!
Maybe they need to check the mom and dad to see if they have herpes.But which type anyway and negative for herpes because most sexual abuse is a family affair. When a child age 12 and under becomes pregnant all male relatives should be tested because it's usually family not outsiders.
As SE Asia develops, it will HAVE to change their judicial system. This will be essential if they are to become a part of the civilized world. They can start by establishing realistic 'rules of evidence'. As it stands, Indonesia in in serious trouble. This will ultimately affect their economy - as it should.
@Karishma Sharma ??? Ahhh...have you ever heard of Google search engine? I assumed you have access to internet since you could watch this video on RUclips. let's type his name (his name is mentioned on the title of this video, in case you don't know where to find his name) in the google search box and click that little search icon on the far-right in the box. Within a few seconds, Google will list out as much information about this guy as you want to read. Good luck.
On behalf of my country, I am sorry for everyone who sees this video and anyone who have been involved with Indonesian law because it is unfair. I am praying so that there will be better lawyers and judges and laws in general here.
What happens to 5 cleaners who is serving sentence although the child proved to be herpes negative? One even died in torture. Cases like this, hurts everyone. Not just foreigners.
Did u notice how that poor kid picked a group of 6 cleaners together?? What are the odds out of all of those people? How can we know the truth if they torture people for confessions?? Confessions can be iffy without torture, but their is a dead person Bc of it. That’s so horrible. This is dreadful, but what’s even more scary is all of the people that live in any country that is falsely imprisioned and doesn’t have the money, support, and media attention of this teacher. So scary. It doesn’t just happen in Indonesia. Happens everywhere.
UPDATE! Neil and Ferdinand’s acquittal was overturned by the Supreme Court in early 2016 where their sentences were increased from 10 years to 11 years and they were also fined $7440 each which they had to pay or get 6 months more on top of that extra year. Fast forward to late June of 2019, Neil applied for clemency and it was granted by the Indonesian government. Although his clemency was granted, Ferdinand and all but one of the janitors imprisoned remain in prison. The other janitor was released on parole in 2019 after serving half of his sentence.
Nobody from another country should go on vacation in Indonesia. What A cruel country. I will never go on vacation in Indonesia even they'll give me a ticket for free.
I really don't think that this didn't happen I really think a 5 year old lied and his mom told him what to say..This happened in the USA in the 90s were a day care center that was ruined by a family was accused of sexual abuse and the whole family was accused of abusing a few kids and it honestly didn't happen.
'When a person abuses a child, they are worse than a robber, when a robber robs a bank he steals money, but when a person abuses a child he robs them of their very soul, ' as an abused child myself I have the knack to spot an abuser, however i get the feeling that this man is innocent, abusers must be given life, because they will never change
I went on a holiday to Hong Kong and Thailand. Most of the tourists in Thailand wanted to go back to live there. It is beautiful, but I saw the poverty and inequality and how frail is the legal system if you get on the wrong side of it. I know it is not Indonesia, but the systems are similar and if your face doesn't fit when a crime has been committed you can languish in jail for years before your trial is even brought to court. No thanks to living in places where this can happen no matter what the opportunities! Call me boring but I like being relatively safe, hoping that I have a fighting chance if innocent. I can't even begin to think what these people have gone through.
Indonesia is a beautiful country. I live in Sumatra,Indonesia. This was just one bad thing that happened there. Doesn’t your county have things that are bad that happen
What a vengeful and greedy woman! A sad case. The child may have been assaulted. But as the cleaners were tortured and not given a fair trial, noone knows if the accusation was true. Am not surprised she then went after the teachers of the school and upped her cost of what she wanted in compensation.
I've seen this many times in my suggestion vids, never watch it. Now I am in my 13th day of 21 days quarantine and run out of Crime documentaries to watch...God! This got me so emotional and mad. That Indo mom should be sued and she should pay Neil 125million for the 5years of Neil suffering. Although it won't erase Neil's ordeal emotionally, mentally and physically! Put her behind bars , same prison Neil was put on
It all seemed so hopeful here. Bantleman is back in prison on the same charges and lost his legal appeals. This is absolutely disgraceful given the complete and utter lack of any evidence. Canada and other Western countries should respond with sanctions on Jakarta and key players involved in this case (including the money hungry mother). Break them economically until they do what's right and actually look at evidence, not popular opinion.
When people are wrongly convicted especially with such conviction from the judge who says they know the defendant is guilty, should lose their job instantly. If I work for a company and I screw something up, I lose my job or at least get out on some type of probationary suspension but these judges and prosecutors can ruin people's entire lives and get to keep their jobs. There's an issue here that needs to be exposed. Everyone makes mistakes, but most mistakes don't ruin people's lives. And the mother that made these false allegations should also be punished in some way or another to prevent herself and others from doing the same.
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So he went back to jail for 5 years... And UPDATE he wins in july 2019 he is now safe and back in Canada.
I suck at Gaming He served 5 years!!!! Wow
That's upsetting, but at least he won.
Thank goodness
Does anyone know the recent condition for the 1 teacher assistance and also the 5 cleaners?
@@aninditakinanti9779 All of them are still in prison, I believe. Don't know why tho
As an Indonesian myself I just hope that the new generation of law students would be a fair citizen, not easily fooled by money and honest. so that they can fix this problem in indonesia
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Please put that lady in jail.
Good luck with that. This kind of thing goes way back and is institutional, a sort of "job" without a person having to get a real job because there aren't any left. There are way too many people there and that is the underlying problem. Free fertility visits, free condoms and free wanted sterilizations would help.
its long long long way, its a very long shot..all people in indonesia know that
Amiin
if her son was abused they should want to find the REAL person that did it. NOT ASKING FOR 125 MILLION . I'M A MOTHER N I WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY
Getz 1983 well they may need money for medical treatment and depression in years to come! If you are messed with it messes you up for years. But that much is 😜 crazy. I don't think he did it.
Take a lie detector test, do std test, etc. I would hate to have someone that isn't responsible of child sexually messing with a kid and being accused of it.
12.5 not 125
@@yourbandsux I believe it said she originally asked for 12.5 million and changed it to 125 million.
exactly she wants money
@@BrainyBeesTV712 Nah. I am lawyer from Indonesia. The mother's lawyer, OC Kaligis who now is in jail for the case of bribery, always demand such a high compensation money. I believe it is because the lawyer push the mother to make that demand.
the parents only talk about themselves, how it affected them. they don't care about their kid. they just wanted the money to leave the country
This is so sad and shocking, especially for the Indonesians who are still in prison. That lady who made the false allegations is evil. So is that judge who didn't even look at the evidence and just went according to public opinion.
In the dictionary in front of the word Gold Digger, that witches face is there
And the poor guy who got murdered for refusing to admit to something he never did.But where the hell is the Canadian Government? they need to act not talk diplomatic language.They need to ask Trump for advise,I'm serious. if this was an American, he would have been back home 3 years ago. do a Mexico on Indonesia.threaten them economically. but the pathetic Canadian Government is far too diplomatic and cares little for the man's justice.
chris moore Ask Trump?!? I hope you’re making a joke!
@@rangerm3029 Trump doesn't give a rip about Justice and sounding like a fool doesn't do anybody any good. Sexual assault is one of many abuses his guilty of, unlike those wrongly accused here. Disgusting.
Yes! They didn't even dig into her finances to see if she was motivated by $ or debt she was in, 125mil? Gtfoh, she was a damn gold digger looking for a come up.
The mother was out for 💰,
If her story about her child is true then show her face in television. She just wanted money and she's making/fabricating a story to make it real - I could sense that!
I was suspicious of money from start
That's what I'm thinking as well. She's looking for an out of court settlement(money). Unfortunately, the issue spread like wild fire, so she have to stand with her out this world story. The child should be asked without the mother because she surely is coaching the child.
Not saying she innocent at all. However, I personally would never want my face on TV when it comes to a story like this innocent or not. Too many crazies in the world who go too far.
I agree! Why is she hiding her face? smh
Show her lying evil face! Someone should fix it up
Salute and respect to the wife stading behind him....
What the marriage faith should be...
As an Indonesian, I'm sorry for everything you and the others have been through. This is totally outrage.
@Shannon Gasparatto Why are u making this personal? She is not responsible for the corruption and injustice there!
It isn't your fault, @Adhitia D. A. I hope you will help to live up to that sentiment though. If you have the guts to speak out here, you have the guts to go for it. But don't risk yourself. We need good people like you here on youtube.
@Shannon Gasparatto yes bro don't come here instead u want to live in the jail 😁
What a liar $125 million now we know the motive
What is this woman on?? She needs to be shown what real life is about !!! So the $125 million is chucked down the toilet bet the Indonesian govt are behind this
July 12, 2019
He is out and back in Canada! Nightmare over.
Jammzy thank you 🙏 for the update am glad he is back home and safe where he belong.
Thank you for the update! Such a sad story. Scary what can happen!
K B did you not see the evidence?? i don’t think ppl have their doubts. only the stubborn parents . anyone in their right mind can see these ppl are innocent! (& i say “these ppl” bcz i am utterly disgusted that no one seems to care about the other ppl STILL IN PRISON)
what about others still being in prison?
Katarzyna Stachura the 6 cleaners.. well 5 now since 1 died ... errr was Murdered !
In Indonesia, you can buy everything with money, included the law. Thank's CBC for the undercover investigation
@beverly ledbetter like OJ
Eben Kindangen That applies to most countries anyone can be bought not only Indonesia.
@beverly ledbetter believe me, it is not as bad as Indonesia.
I had a chance to work with local government for a high profile across global business deal. Over the course of 13 months of discussions and negotiations, I discovered most local agencies I encountered were either unreliable or corrupted. Oftentimes, some high ranked officials could simply change rules and requirements without our knowledge albeit written binding rulings have been issued. They rarely honored written agreements they made. Every time when a so-called new "law/requirement" implemented, its admission /application fee would also increase and yet they required us to deposit money only to their selected local banks.
Jangan menjadi orang Indonesia yang bodoh, itu terjadi diseluruh dunia. Tidak hanya Indonesia, lebay lo bangsat
@@osytafedarani5402 trima ae bodoh, negara kita emg bobrok
Let's all take moment of silence for the poor cleaner who lost his life due to beatings and also 5 other cleaners in jail. Amen
They are still in prison because they don't have money...they are not rich to hire good defense lawyers...poor things
That poor boy. His mother will have him so screwed up.
a life was lost.....the soul literally beaten out of an innocent man :(
Truly disgusting. That mom will pay, through her kids. One way or another it will come back to haunt her.
As an indonesian i feel ashamed by the fact that our law establishment are corrupt and controlled by money, i'm very aware that the rich are more immune to the law and have more advantage but criminalization of the innocents is something that makes me really really ashamed of my country. even from neutral perspective i still disagree that they can be proven guilty, there are not enough evidence and too much flaws in what the accuser told. if she's proven gave false report and arrange a scenario to make everybody think it really happened, her stubbornness will make her fall deeper when the table is turned.
Rendy Riansyah What would be the consequences of her making false accusations? She's safely tucked away in a western community. Very well said, thank you for an insiders opinion.
Cathie HPN if i remember it correctly i've heard from my friend in law school the consequences is prison for 7 years or less but that's only the consequence for making false accusation. there's very high chance she broke another law in the process of making that false accusations. yeah that is the problem the families had moved to another country. for your information there's someone that have been independently investigating this case and has found some strange things that could lead to evidences of making false accusations
Rendy Riansyah Thank you for taking the time to explain the case in more depth. Summarily ruining a man's life with egregious unfounded claims, asking for a very large amount of money for "damages", then moving out of the country destroys this woman's credibility.
Again, thank you for the update.
I'm an Indonesian (I just saw this video) the news stated no accusations but evidence from the victim
Don't feel bad, self-serving corruption occurs everywhere. It is more carefully disguised in richer countries.
I sincerely hope no Canadian ever goes to Indonesia to teach EVER again.
And also many judge been bribe, yeah that time Indonesia was still vulnerable to corruption. Now, the Anti Corruption Committee is doing it's best because Jokowi said so. Nowadays, no one is safe from corruption.
I just realized that your comment just disrespectful to the parents of the children that school there and the staff and many other people that supports Neil so that he can get out of prison.
Afg Tunes I wouldn’t go to that hellhole of a country if they payed me billions
Afg Tunes this man is innocent
@@Me-ru6cl this man IS innocent, many Indonesians know that. You wouldn't visit the "hellhole of a country"? Have you ever visited Bali?
Corruption is a major problem in Indonesia. And the fact these children go to a prestigious International school, the parents both have the money and influence of putting Bantleman behind bars.
yes, when one sees such a luxurious residential area in a city that's most shanty towns with open sewers, one knows that there could be trouble.
Every poor asian, arab and african country is corrupt. Colonial Hangovers
I wonder if one day that kid grows up and realizes how his accusations affected other people. How one person died and many others spent years in jail. This should NEVER have happened. I wonder if he'll feel guilty or have some amount of shame involved with this deed. The whole thing is a tragedy. That mother should be in jail herself.
The kid might have been a psychopath or schizophrenic or imagining things that never happened, I doubt he would ever come to realize that what he did was wrong nor feel guilty about it. Otherwise, he would have confessed after all these years.
As an Indonesian, I must say that I am appalled by the justice system, though not surprised. Indonesia is a place where MONEY can get you anything you want, including the justice system itself. Furthermore, the saying "innocent till proven guilty" does not really apply here, especially in high profile cases, like this one, where public opinion and money tends to win over the evidence or lack there of, in this case. Public opinion is formed via the media, media has the responsibility to tell the TRUTH, not sensationalizing contents for ratings, which media nowdays seems to forget.
Show her face.
She's not a Canadian.
Why are you protecting her?
@Kilnmaster yeah, sure it is
Its not hard if you really wanted to know who they are...
The witch is in Europe because we can give her justice in Indonesia. People can find vigilantes to give the witch justice.
She stretches her neck veins because she begs God to cut them.
@@johnfilmore7638 what are you trying to saying.. dude?
Carriacou is the best place in the world, and if I have money there are so many countries that I will never never go to.Dont matter how nice or there's things I will love to see.SAD
Greedy parents, incompetent and corrupt police force and justice system. Poor innocent people have been thrown (back) to jail and one was abused and now dead. I hope all expats and Indonesian people help release these innocent convicts, especially the poor cleaners.
I know if these are people of religion. I can only imagine where their faith and trust in our higher power. I can't imagine how these people kept tjeir faith if had any.
Stay out of these countries. God knows the truth, the rapists and the children.
@@acajudi100 If you dont wanna face the rapist you should stay at home and never walk out coz they are everywhere right below your nose.
Maybe that indo mother was poor she needed money lol
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She wants money and don't care who she destroys
Obviously have no idea how as an expat, living in some countries, you are a "target", many justice systems around the world behave like the children they should protect. It's about politics, power, money...but not about Justice...and Indonesia, is one of the worst, like how the cleaners were treated, they of course deserve it, as "they" are lower class people.....I don't think so!!!
I am with you
I agree
dea raee
SHE SURE DON'T CARE.
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That poor young Indonesian man and the others beaten on the evidence of a child.
Summary in Indonesia: Money is power.
+Aaron Chew I was offered a lucrative teaching job in Latin America. It was at an elite private high school in the capital. Some American friends would take me to a yacht club sometimes. I saw the high society of the country. They made me uncomfortable, because they had absolute power in that country. One phone call to authority and I would end up in prison for any, or for no reason. This is the culture in third world nations. I declined the teaching job.
+Aaron Chew
well that is a norm not only in Indonesia but also worlds, like Wall Street and etc.
+James Bond
*Think the same thing can't happen in the USA? LOL*
+Aaron Chew Whether it be Indonesia, the US, Canada, Britain, it is all the same. Justice is corrupt. Officials are corrupt and money talks. That batshit crazy lady probably got together with the other 3 wealthy women whilst drinking tea and came up with this story just to get millions. She had no class whatsoever, loud, obnoxious. Oh she planned this for sure. I guess it is the same all over the world once a story gets into the press and public opinion is not on your side your gonna lose the case.
+slw154 It does every single day. I believe there are more innocent people in jail than guilty.
If she’s so sure, why is she trying to hide behind a mask?
Corruption is alive and well! If the little boy has herpes, why isn't there any records of treatments! I think the boy's parents plotted it, inorder to win a lawsuit! Having said that, I feel sorry for all the innocent victims involved, especially the young lad you died in detention as a result of a horrible beating! When is wickedness going to cease! Sad really!!!!!!!
+padma salam They have lost face now and nothing will change if the boy has herpes why don't they test everyone involved including the cleaners in prison..the man that died was murdered for sure, probably had bleach forced into him...what is the feckin president doing thought he was trying to clean up corruption but it doesn't look like it..shame on you Mr President
Leenie H I am in agreement with that! Also the mother should have to face the justice system for plotting such an elaborate scheme! If the so call victim was from a poor family, no one would care about bringing the alleged perpetrators to justice! The scale of justice is unbalanced! always have, always will be!!!!!!!
+padma salam The fifth estate told the mother to take her son to one of the testing facilities and the test came back negative for herpes......I'm sure she still deserves that 125 million tho......
Jay Michaluk You are being sarcastic, correct? If no, she deserves millions of dollars for lying and ruining innocent lives?
+padma salam Even the first Indonesian Doctor who initially issued the lab test has published her confession, telling the lab test and any records stated there were all written based on the request of the boy's mother. The image of the confession letter has spread virally here in Indonesia.
When the case was outbreaking, (almost) all Indonesians were fulfilled with anger to JIS. We were even feeling unsafe to let our kids go to school. I admit it, I felt the same with others. However, once Pipit sued for USD 12.5 Mio (and lately increased 10 times), we started to think more clearly. "What if it's just Pipit's motivation for money?". Her greed has opened up people's eyes to the truth.
it's breaking my heart after i read the truth in Kaskus, and how 'they' treated the victims. I was in middle school when this case happened. I was thinking the teachers and those cleaners were monsters. From the deep of my heart, I'm sorry.
Worst Judge verdict ever!
This judge should be fired!
Exactly...she probably protested for women's right and equality to get that position....and that's what she have to show for. She said the defendant showed no emotion or remorse but she did the same when throwing out legitimate evidence
Hung
, mostly of Judge in Indonesia doesn’t really follow the law.. they always in favor and their relationship with Prosecutors.
The mother wants attention money .
She’s damaged so many people it’s all about money
Jezebel
I agree with you. The mother reeks of the love of the show and greed. The teacher has the courage of a Marine his wife too.
malignant narcissist . gaslight . ...
teaching abroad is dangerous. You're always going to be considered an outsider. I speak from experience
Been teaching in Thailand for over six years. Just be a teacher and never engage with students in any other way.
So far so good 😉👍
@@gamestv4875 What are you talking about? Those kids were 5 and 6 year old kids. What kind of interactions do you think that teacher had with the students? You almost sound like you're blaming him for what happened!
@Gazpacho Suave Thanks 😁
kebayang gak sih berapa banyak orang innocent yang masuk penjara karena manusia macam ibu itu & hukum yang gak jelas?
What a complete injustice... It just shows you Indonesia is a corrupt country... Those judges should be disbarred.... Those mothers should be charged and put in jail..
@Deborah Lawson exactly!
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Wtf. You act like there not bad things happening in America. Just think about the Turpin case or the Mary Stauffer case. All countries have flaws, some more than others. But don’t you dare say that Indonesia is a horrible country. I’m Indonesian and I think even with all these things happening Indonesia is he best country in the world
I lived in Indonesia for a year back in the eighties. When I was there it was a common occurrence for suspected petty criminals to be found dead floating in drainage canals with their hands bound behind their backs using zip ties of a certain color that everybody knew was an unofficial yet recognized trademark of the police. That's how justice worked. Faster and more cost effective than court trials but a greater margin of error. What convicted all the suspects in this case was the publicity. The police had to convict somebody. And once they convicted some poor Indonesians they had to convict some foreigners as well to restore a sense of balance.
normally I would side with the accuser....but the money and the fact that not one, but 8 people were accused of being rapists? seems a bit suspect....
FFS, the way they were dragging their kid into the courtroom tells me everything i need to know
A magic stone and a blue potion? What is this, Final Fantasy?
thank you cbc for giving me a new sight, i am an indonesian and have just seen this case from a different side now.
Another county I will never visit...bat crap scared.
It's not actually a dangerous country
Their legal system is absolutely terrifying though.
+Warsilver north Korea's worse lol
Vere Buttbuttbutt Obviously North Korea's is worse, that's not saying much though. The best way to know the difference between a developed and developing country is the soundness of the judicial system. Indonesia's system is still in the medieval ages.
Warsilver nope. thats not actually the different. ive read too many law mishap even in usa. esp discrimination. i'm not indonesian but the rich and powerful really scared me sometimes.
This will always be your reward for working in these countries think hard before going there.
so appreciate what you did cbc. so sick with my nation's law.. you could see that there's no justice but money here... I'll fight for those innocents who spend the rest of their life in jail no matter what
Nur Rahmi how will you fight exactly?
by ranting on social media lol
yet, the child never spoke once. the mother is plotting the whole thing.
that parents should be winning the oscar
They win for best actress.
And what about the other five not forgetting the one the Police killed.
Thank you for shocking documentaries like these.
However nothing much is remaining on my Asian travel bucket list
Donna Q 😂
Donna Q I have never had an Asian Bucket list. Crazy things have in those places.😱
Cowards
So why she's moving to europe?
Money talks. You have money, you are feel free to kick out the innocent and the poor. Shame on you, Mrs. Theresia and her "right hands".
the fact that Justin Tredeau has not demanded this man be released IS A NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT TO CANADA, SHAME ON YOU MR PRIME MINISTER
Thank you CBC for trying to actively pursue the truth. Curious how come there aren't any child psychologist involved or at least some kind of lie detector test?
+LelouchL3 Both of those things were utilized. Neil passed 3 lie detector tests, as did Ferdi. This was dismissed by the panel of judges, as was numerous testimony from expert forensic child psychologists who worked with the children after the accusations were made, and said the children did not display behaviours consistent with trauma. What's also important to note is that tests were performed on the children to examine for signs of sexual abuse, not just testing for Herpes (of which Neil and Ferdi were tested, both negative. If the children were indeed sodomized multiple times per day, over a period of months by EIGHT suspects, there would be physical signs to prove it.) The results of multiple anoscopies came back negative, meaning the children were not sodomized in any way. All of this, as well as numerous other forms of evidence in support of Neil and Ferdi's case was rejected by the judges panel.Not to mention that the prosecutor couldn't even identify when or where the alleged crimes took place. The indictment literally states, "At a time and place that can no longer be recalled with certainty, somewhere with in South Jakarta during 2014-2015...the accused are being tried for sexual assault". It's crazy. No proof, no timeline, no evidence, yet.....guilty? It's heartbreaking. Unfortunately, there are SO many inconsistencies that have taken place with this case, that CBC couldn't address all of it in a one-hour segment. Thank you for also wanting to understand the case, and the search for truth and justice. So many are quick to assume guilt without looking into the situation.
it doesn't matter, psychologist/lie detector doesn't matter. only the judge and prosecutor and police matter and... money , yah?
Just read he's back in jail serving out his sentence, his release was overturned. What a disappointment.
Ellen A. Wow
Thats crazy. It was so obvious he was not guilty.
They actually increased the previous sentence. I'm disappointed in the Canadian embassy.
He went back to jail for 5 years and was released in 2019... if I was him I would sue that crazy woman and the judge
sounds like some rich kid threw a tantrum and then there was wildfire... this story is insane.
+esser anyone catch the "godfather" at 16:25 lol if that doesnt scream at ya .. seems legit.
Despite all the improvement in Indonesia, the law system is almost not change for decades or even worse. Police, judges, attorneys, prosecutors, they all corrupted, compromising justice for money
this is why i'm sick of my nation's law and its people. money can easily blind us, and opinion is messed up with facts. that old hag need to be arrested asap
If you are telling the truth you dont have to hide your face
If you're going to ruin so many life's maybe you should at least do it WITH YOUR FACE SHOWING. You can protect your child by NOT showing him on camera! SHOW YOURSELF.
So many innocent people are behind Indonesia bars..... I am so sorry for the pain it caused you and family.. May God heal the trauma
one thing you should know about indonesia, when all the opinion, and people of indonesia is against you. that's mean you're on the right side. so, whenever you see many indonesian people say something, do the opposite. and, actually i am indonesian
Wow these mothers are everywhere. They are called monster parents here in Japan...and usually its the mom, especially ones that are a higher class than the average people. I have had to deal with a few of those mothers here in Japan. It is crazy what kind of BS these mothers come up with. Thank God I was smarter than them and I caught them in a bunch of their twisted lies before they sucked other mothers in. It's too bad because there are times when some bad does happen, but there is so much BS out there you have sift through everything carefully. 12.5M??!? WTF?!?!?! 125M WT 'quazillion' F? False test and still mother inisisten.... Doesn't matter skin colour, culture, race..some people are really horrible...
It is very obvious the woman is in for the money you should be the one in jail for fraud
OMG. I’m so glad I never took a teaching job there. I was warned not to. 😳
Sallie i am a teacher
It is a great jb.
What a backwards country. This is insane. It's completely clear that they have no evidence that an assault even happened. At least they didn't torture him.
They should lock that lying money-grubbing cont in jail for the rest of her life for trying to send an innocent man to jail and making up false accusations and medical records !!
Plus the judge needs to be fired from her position immediately and jailed for her own ignorance and not reviewing the evidence like a real judge should !!
And the dirty pigs for murder
Danny Yarbrough INNOCENT MEN ! & a woman too!
Amanda Swaney true. One of them died at the hands of their captures. Neil is only getting all this because he’s a westerner.
it reminds me of the Salem witch trials
Bloody hell, you're old.
@@pauljamessquibbs.3945 😅
Maybe they need to check the mom and dad to see if they have herpes.But which type anyway and negative for herpes because most sexual abuse is a family affair. When a child age 12 and under becomes pregnant all male relatives should be tested because it's usually family not outsiders.
Did you not watch? The kid doesn’t even have herpes.
Welcome to Indonesia, where money is power
That is true everywhere
The mask on the mother tells it all !
As SE Asia develops, it will HAVE to change their judicial system. This will be essential if they are to become a part of the civilized world. They can start by establishing realistic 'rules of evidence'. As it stands, Indonesia in in serious trouble. This will ultimately affect their economy - as it should.
2019 : He is back home in Canada
@Karishma Sharma ??? Ahhh...have you ever heard of Google search engine? I assumed you have access to internet since you could watch this video on RUclips. let's type his name (his name is mentioned on the title of this video, in case you don't know where to find his name) in the google search box and click that little search icon on the far-right in the box. Within a few seconds, Google will list out as much information about this guy as you want to read. Good luck.
On behalf of my country, I am sorry for everyone who sees this video and anyone who have been involved with Indonesian law because it is unfair. I am praying so that there will be better lawyers and judges and laws in general here.
Shai___Shai lol prayers are not gonna get anything done
Good for you shai shai
What happens to 5 cleaners who is serving sentence although the child proved to be herpes negative?
One even died in torture.
Cases like this, hurts everyone. Not just foreigners.
Did u notice how that poor kid picked a group of 6 cleaners together?? What are the odds out of all of those people? How can we know the truth if they torture people for confessions?? Confessions can be iffy without torture, but their is a dead person Bc of it. That’s so horrible. This is dreadful, but what’s even more scary is all of the people that live in any country that is falsely imprisioned and doesn’t have the money, support, and media attention of this teacher. So scary. It doesn’t just happen in Indonesia. Happens everywhere.
The show producers grouped them together to show them easily on film
Update: He was finally let go and went back to Canada.
I wonder how much from the money demanded from the school will fall in that lawyer's hand...
At the same time, this is the kind of person you want to be and the kind of partner you want by your side.
The ones abusing the son here are the parents....
22:18 "It took the judge almost 9 HOURS to read her verdict"
Would it be possible to add an Indonesian subtitle to the video? It might help to change the public opinion of the case in Indonesia.
Realy hope these parents and their kids will be paying for the rest of their lives
UPDATE! Neil and Ferdinand’s acquittal was overturned by the Supreme Court in early 2016 where their sentences were increased from 10 years to 11 years and they were also fined $7440 each which they had to pay or get 6 months more on top of that extra year. Fast forward to late June of 2019, Neil applied for clemency and it was granted by the Indonesian government. Although his clemency was granted, Ferdinand and all but one of the janitors imprisoned remain in prison. The other janitor was released on parole in 2019 after serving half of his sentence.
Nobody from another country should go on vacation in Indonesia. What A cruel country. I will never go on vacation in Indonesia even they'll give me a ticket for free.
This is why you dont work as a teacher anymore unless every room has cameras and save recordings for years
When the police said the blender was evidence he mixed a blue potion I about lost my mind.. Y'all people are buggin
this is why i never leave Canada...not even for a vacation
Carol Harley you are a total wordsmith. I bow to your superior linguistics. Please take me to the burn unit.
allan robertson Would love to know what Carol posted, unfortunately it's been deleted.
allan robertson I'm sorry, I cannot understand why people feel entitled to be abusive to a total stranger but you're reply was courteous.
I feel the same. Folks can be so rude at times. You are very nice and courteous. Thanks for asking.
I really don't think that this didn't happen I really think a 5 year old lied and his mom told him what to say..This happened in the USA in the 90s were a day care center that was ruined by a family was accused of sexual abuse and the whole family was accused of abusing a few kids and it honestly didn't happen.
'When a person abuses a child, they are worse than a robber, when
a robber robs a bank he steals money, but when a person abuses
a child he robs them of their very soul, ' as an abused child myself
I have the knack to spot an abuser, however i get the feeling that this
man is innocent, abusers must be given life, because
they will never change
It would be interesting to go back today and ask them child again about the allegations again.
I went on a holiday to Hong Kong and Thailand. Most of the tourists in Thailand wanted to go back to live there. It is beautiful, but I saw the poverty and inequality and how frail is the legal system if you get on the wrong side of it. I know it is not Indonesia, but the systems are similar and if your face doesn't fit when a crime has been committed you can languish in jail for years before your trial is even brought to court. No thanks to living in places where this can happen no matter what the opportunities! Call me boring but I like being relatively safe, hoping that I have a fighting chance if innocent.
I can't even begin to think what these people have gone through.
Welcome to Indonesia...
The fact that she’s protecting her identity is quite telling she knows she is guilty
I'm Indonesian and I'm ashamed of this.
I hope Neil and Tracy would be save in the future. I offer them my prayers. For now it's all I could give sorry-_-.
*If you are an American, Canadian or Western European and commit a crime in developing countries,you are less likely to get punished.*
Another country I'll never set foot in.
Me too
Indonesia is a beautiful country. I live in Sumatra,Indonesia. This was just one bad thing that happened there. Doesn’t your county have things that are bad that happen
Interviewer: You are fighting for son.
Mother: No, I'm fighting for money.
What a vengeful and greedy woman! A sad case. The child may have been assaulted. But as the cleaners were tortured and not given a fair trial, noone knows if the accusation was true. Am not surprised she then went after the teachers of the school and upped her cost of what she wanted in compensation.
I've seen this many times in my suggestion vids, never watch it. Now I am in my 13th day of 21 days quarantine and run out of Crime documentaries to watch...God! This got me so emotional and mad. That Indo mom should be sued and she should pay Neil 125million for the 5years of Neil suffering. Although it won't erase Neil's ordeal emotionally, mentally and physically! Put her behind bars , same prison Neil was put on
It all seemed so hopeful here. Bantleman is back in prison on the same charges and lost his legal appeals. This is absolutely disgraceful given the complete and utter lack of any evidence. Canada and other Western countries should respond with sanctions on Jakarta and key players involved in this case (including the money hungry mother). Break them economically until they do what's right and actually look at evidence, not popular opinion.
When people are wrongly convicted especially with such conviction from the judge who says they know the defendant is guilty, should lose their job instantly. If I work for a company and I screw something up, I lose my job or at least get out on some type of probationary suspension but these judges and prosecutors can ruin people's entire lives and get to keep their jobs. There's an issue here that needs to be exposed. Everyone makes mistakes, but most mistakes don't ruin people's lives. And the mother that made these false allegations should also be punished in some way or another to prevent herself and others from doing the same.
The parents only wanted the money.
They hid their faces because they knew that they were wrong.
The mother just wants money, and the people helping her know they would get commission