All these corporations have been putting these policies in place under the assumption that if everyone does it, they can't sue us all! But they can. If one lawsuit like this goes through and the precedent is set, it'll be a litigation goldrush. New law firms will be set up just to handle these claims. Entire HR departments may get sacked, and the whole rotten system will have to go through reforms.
The reason DEI policy exists in the first place is to shield companies from discrimination lawsuits. It's just that antiwhite suits never gain any traction so they don't have to guard against them.
Federal govt. has to do the same. Contracts with 3 awards will mandate 1 must be female owned and 1 must be minority but they can't be the same one. So you can't just do one female minority. Almost always just burning money. Most of the 'title XX' are setup the same way but with more or less subtlety.
As someone who rubbed shoulders with Red Hat employees at conferences - this did not surprise me at all. They poisoned the awesome open source space and have driven away many enthusiastic and kind hearted developers with their toxicity.
I'll never be able to wrap my head around the fact that in the real world so many companies from so many different sectors of society have actually implemented these terrible policies. When I worked as a freight stocker at a grocery store, we had to listen to an introduction talking about racism. When I worked as an administrative secretary, there was a "power and privilege" manual there, too. It's sheer madness and greed beyond anything I could have imagined.
@@LPetal86 There was enough virulent racism to sustain slavery, the civil war, then segregation, scientific racism and eugenics. When we finally had a successful civil rights movement in '60s and it became clear that society rejected the overt dehumanizing of minorities, their belief system morphed into patronizing dehumanizing of minorities. And these white racists have a ton of self-loathing that they project on to the rest of us. _there was a "power and privilege" manual there, too_ Yeah, this is how it got far worse after the civil rights movement. Someone got paid to write that, and you can go on glassdoor and find postings for DEI jobs. Racial grievance has been a developing industry since the CRM, including lobbying, law firms, university departments, consultants, etc. Most people aren't getting rich off it, but they also have no marketable skills and a resume that says "lawsuit magnet," so their livelihoods depend on activists maintaining a permanent racial fissure.
@senkrouf I disagree. It was well in swing before rustlang. I think it was largely incubated in academia as feminist incursion to STEM, then came the "codes of conduct" into projects (eg. Ubuntu in something like 2008) and even more so into open source conferences where again CoCs were allowing these people to insert themselves into conference teams and also groups were essentially having entire parallel conferences made for them (nobody was excluding them in any way from the main conference!).
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion...how does that work if you are actively excluding a person based on their colour? Whatever happened to employing the best person for the job.
Their slogan doesn’t use “Equality”, it uses “Equity”. Meaning not only an equal opportunity but an equal outcome - even if one clearly outperforms another.
The whole corporate system is corrupted like this. Not just in tech. Stories like these make me want to ditch "corporate Linux distros" and just use community efforts.
@@googIesux As I understand it, it's from a fund for open source projects. They (the "Arch guys") presented their projects and won the grant. Something about improving and streamlining their packaging system (among other things). Don't know, maybe they did sell out (we will give you this money if you do these changes), but so far there is no indication of that.
I do just that. That's why I didn't even try Fedora despite a lot of people praising it. Also wanted to test OpenSuse, but no. I'm cool with Mint, and when I have the time I'll just learn enough to switch to build my own Arch.
7:00 the G in ESG scoring dictates that in order to get better Governance scores, directors and C suite executives must award themselves bonuses based on Environmental and Social policies they push and meet. This is litteral corruption, guys, every publically traded company following ESG should be open for fiduciary misconduct lawsuits by their shareholders.
I work at red hat for 8 years. Since we were sold to IBM A and Jim whitehurst left, the company went downhill. A lot of discrimination and retaliation by higher management.
People need to realise that this is Maoism. It's not just that the similarities between woke ideology and Maoism are uncanny. They're the same thing. It's Maoism for the western world.
well yeah, its your fault they dont do well. because everyone is equal duh! and everyone's own effort is stupid. dont worry about that. do nothing while resting easy, knowing you are just like everyone else. now when reality comes nocking, we must be dealing with some racist! that hate me and how little effort I put into my life, but why should I do ANYTHING, since we are the same anyway and no one is really that special because I am not that special duh! these people are so narcissistic they dont realize other people are just better than them.
It comes down to voter blocks. The entire political system is designed to cater to the feminist block. And the political system will force that on to industries via regulation and throwing around grant money in order to virtue signal to the feminists.
I want to point out that the judge has a lot of discretion as to how long they take to make even the smallest pretrial ruling. If a judge doesn't want to deal with a case, or doesn't want to see it go forward, they can sit on it for YEARS. And there isn't much you can do to speed things along. The facts that judges are sitting on all these lawsuits tells you which way they want it to go.
@@trucid2 Couldn't you find a new victim who specifically wants a different jurisdiction, and then when that lawsuit is going well, join the others to it?
@@xpusostomosThe judges of a circuit decide whether to join cases, and it is a decision made by a vote of all judges of that circuit. Sometimes, judges on a circuit will campaign to time that vote and which way it will go, before bringing it to a vote. See the 9th Federal Circuit.
@@xpusostomosno, most you can do at that point is request a new judge to oversee the case but it's an uphill battle to have that changed. On top of that, the other side would have to agree with varying terms and points to concede replacing the judge as well
Even losing to the point that the entities are dissolved won't make any difference unless the individuals behind the policies are also destitute and/or imprisoned.
Let IBM and RedHat keep pushing this. They are the dumbest kind of criminal that keeps incriminating himself while already on trial. They remind me of the guy who was accused of car theft and he showed up in court in a car he just stole. 😀
Dismissing these employees would be a premature admission of guilt. The lawsuits, and the snails pace of the courts, has ironically improved their job security.
Meanwhile when basic math tests are used to test the competency of prospective math teachers and black and Latino teachers are less competent, the test is to blame, and there is a big lawsuit
Don't get your hopes up. The Legal system is a very iffy bet as it stands when it comes to these issues. All it takes is one activist judge to shut the lawsuit down and set legal precedent. And those activist judges are very touchy about anything that upsets the progressive stack.
You are mostly correct, except that legal precedent can only be set at the Appellate level. A Circuit Court of Appeals has to confirm a lower Judge's decision before that judgement becomes precedential, although when that judgement comes before the Circuit Court of Appeals, all existing judgements in similar cases can be brought in as support or to denounce the case that is being heard. EDIT: And _then,_ the case can be brought before a trium of Appellate judges to confirm _that_ Appellate judge's decision, and then, a vote can be asked of _all_ judges at the Appellate level on that Circuit. Check the 9th Federal Circuit for some really shady stuff that happened last year in its Circuit Court of Appeals.
There were many unbelievable things I learned during an electrical apprenticeship. Being told by an instructor we were the wrong minorities for a scholarship was the most confusing part of it. That was the entire reason I signed up. At least I got a coffee mug at the orientation with the Arioch scholarship. I had to get three years of perfect attendance and exam scores to find out I don't qualify lmao. Then being told that the 'special' employees we had were DEI hires. If they aren't competent enough to protect life and property then they don't qualify to do that job do they? I had to take a pre-aptitude exam to qualify for the next aptitude exam to see how we would place on a special relations and dexterity tests. Anyway, I was forced into some awful work related Anti-White and DEI complaint issues. It was very odd and uncomfortable to be around people who were looking for racism in everything. It got so bad, to make a long story short, I did go to court and the judge tells me I should try talking about it on social media to find more help. Because why? DEI and reverse racism? That's not what I want to do with my life, I wanted to do my job building things. Well, good luck people of Earth.
Ikr? Stop looking for race in everything and guess what happens? …racism magically dissipates instantly. Why can’t they understand this? Lol it’s just spectacular
What about Microsoft with those anti-white slideshows? For doing this, these companies are dead to me, and I don't think I can ever forgive. One reason I don't like Fedora since it is connected to them. Doesn't a Red Hat mean you are a communist? I like the White Hat more, heh. Much respect to Lunduke for speaking out; I don't hear/see with mainstream media, quite true there Bryan.
The red hat strategy is giving agency to expressing emotions, sharing personal thoughts, publishing creative ideas with no explanation or basis. Basically the 'space' where people can scribble outside the lines using all the colors.
Them not firing them is a tactical move probably coming from the lawyers. If they fire them it's a signal of guilt, and I guarantee the lawyers bringing the lawsuits would use that to argue "if you did nothing wrong, then why did you fire all of these people directly responsible and the architects of these presentations and policies?" Same thing with the policies and practices remaining in place. Changing and firing everybody, will be used to argue the guilt of these companies. They are backed into a corner now. If they do change and fire them, it will be seen as guilt, and if they don't it gives the opposition ammo to strengthen their cases. Cause it's obviously against the law in every state, and federally.
If you own a small business, make sure you’re taking this into consideration, cause there’s a lot of guys that this is affecting and will affect for a long time. This isn’t going away.
Thanks Bryan. These are still huge stories and they need to be covered. I'm so glad that you are able and willing to do this. We need more people supporting this at your Locals site.
In my experience, I had to significantly hide my east asian sounding name to even get a single callback from tech companies. Also the one I work for has ERG groups and DEI pledges in every break room. There are some workgroups you have to watch your words around, such as "GSN" (pronouns/names group).
I was just thinking "you never hear about "Asians..."" and it's as I thought, you're treated as "white/non-minority." It's honestly disgusting and rude.
@@HansZimmer-b1r and sadly many of them are the videos that we see of wmen posting thier "day in a life," video where they eat 5x a day and do a spreadsheet for 5 mins as "work," So many nonsense roles for nothing. Then they all get fired a year later after the project is over ... lol. It's very sad all around.
Nah, those aren't racist hiring practices. It's just that they hire people based on race instead of skill... Gee, we probably need a word to describe those practices 🤔🤔🤔
This might explain my incomprehensible IBM coding question recently (a lot of other Glassdoor reviews were just given fizz buzz and such). Glad I failed now.
hm. that would be a clever way to discriminate and get away with it, because afaik (private/corporate) companies are not required to publish the tests / hiring process.
That is how they discriminated at universities in the Society Union, if the examiner didn't like you, they would give you an Olympiad level math question, it could seem to only need school math to understand, but it's in fact very hard to figure out, or a proof for some theorem instead of just a problem that uses it, something most people don't try to remember
Don't forget the entire point of the legal system is to argue every point, don't take something said in court as something the client actually believes, for example a motion to dismiss doesn't inherently mean they believe in their reasoning, it's more so just because it would be weird not to try
Don't hold your breath on setting precedents. The vast majority of lawsuits settle out of court (because both parties have an incentive to do so), and a settlement means no precedent for future cases to rely upon. The terms are often confidential. And worst of all, it's quite common for the settlement to stipulate that the defendant admits no wrongdoing. One thing I'm not sure about, though, is the suit by a government. Is that less likely to settle, I wonder? I guess we'll have to see... some day.
This reminds me of the case where Disney killed a lady and they tried to bring the case to arbitration because the husband agreed to a TOS that included an arbitration clause when he signed up for a free trial of Disney+.
why would they care if they get found out? they never get punished worst case scenario, the company gets fined, the execs give themselves a bonus, and they increase prices for customers
I don't think you understand. In the tech space, there are normal, everyday people who fully believe in the things that are pushed, are extremely hostile when triggered, and are just as manipulative as the people shoving it into their heads. The well has been poisoned and the village folk are helping poison other wells, while blaming the resulting sickness on the people trying to help them.
In the first one, they want to get a Civil Rights Violation out of court and into arbitration. 🤣A cat can cover up what it did in the litter box, but it still stinks.
To fire that IBM/Red Hat managers eould be an implicit admission that they are guilty. They try to gain time not only for legal reasons, but also to not being on media. It is important to continue to inform on IBM / Red Hat and other discriminatory practices.
They probably haven't fired the people you mentioned because they're worried that the reason for dismissal would be used in court as evidence. Or they're just evil and they, as a company, don't believe they did anything wrong. 🤷♂️
There is only thing keeping me from hoping that these lawsuits absolutely annihilate these companies: the normal non-DEI people that work for them. Thank you for reporting on this.
That's something I have been wondering about for a while. This has to take an enormous amount of coordination and planning. Then there's how did this get the effort. Mapping it out as an exercise in symbolic logic using physics formula for work.
I'm not familiar with usa legal system. But can they a take only black jury? Some specific jury? And win because they are big company? Or this lawsuit only related to judge without jury?
I hope they get made an example out of. I’ve just stopped putting my race on the “”””””voluntary disclusure”””””” forms they “”””totally don’t use against me”””” on applications at this point
Taking action against the individuals responsible, or changing the policies, could be perceived as an admission of guilt. And if RH wins the lawsuit then that could open up complaints from anyone who they let go because of it. It's pretty standard practice to play the cards close to the chest while litigation is pending.
Oh wow, I worked with Virginia Bryan when I did customer marketing for RHEL. She made a comment as I was leaving about feeling excluded just because she was back, which surprised me. eta: I also knew Lauren Pritchett. This is so surreal.
Because companies that are and always ran by White People....more often than not White Men....weren't Pro-White to begin with ? It's almost as if racists are very, very stupid people.
@@AlphaNeon ...except for the fact they always hired based on race and gender....it just so happened that none of you cared when their hiring preference is White and Male.
do they think the legal system will ignore them. do the rules not apply. the employees have to follow the rules, at least those under C-suite level have to.
Equality and equity are impossibilities much like perfection is impossible. There will always be the positive, neutral, and negative the more you try to put people into any given category the more they will expand into others.
Equity and Equality are very different. Equality can exist on its own. Ideally it's an automated process. Everyone has the ability to succeed based on merit. Merit means you are the most qualified for what a situation calls for. Although America was not founded with the explicit goal of being a meritocracy, it was the direction it ultimately took. Britain was an aristocracy at the time, so the prospect of being successful on one's own merit was especially attractive to non-aristocrats (almost everyone). It wasn't and still isn't perfect but it's the best system there is. Equity means the outcome for everyone is the same. Not everyone starts at the same place. Kamala said so herself and if she said it, it must be true, right? Some people have advantages that give them a leg up and that isn't fair. They may be intellectually gifted, more creative, driven or had more parental support as children. They might be demographically privileged. We can't assume that everyone without an obvious advantage has their own unique talents, skills or ability to innovate. That's where DEI comes in. Proponents of DEI believe, depending on what type of marginalization you've experienced, you should be compensated for those disadvantages. Equity requires some type of evaluation or intervention on behalf of each individual. The inherent inefficiency of such a system requires a generalized marginalization scale based on outdated stereotypes or outright discrimination to be implemented to expedite the process. DEI is even more discriminatory than a merit based system. Merit assumes a level of competency is part of the goal. With DEI competence, is technically not required. Now when you're rushed to Woe Kest Hospital in an ambulance you'll wonder if that non-white doctor about to cut into you is qualified. He or she is probably a great doctor but you won't know for sure. You probably know all this but perhaps the granular detail will be helpful for someone.
@@trailertrish2587 "Equality" can not exist on its own, as it's leftist aka unnatural. It has to be artificially imposed from above, always. That's why our side has to embrace hierarchy in opposition and not make concessions about "equality of opportunity" and other bromides.
if they had said this about black people instead of white people this would be in the mainstrem news. weird how it is ok to discriminate against some races but not others.
Important content, but Jesus this was a painful one to listen to, the vast majority of the points made were regurgitated for a solid 15-20 minutes. How many times was “You’d expect” uttered?
Does anyone have any white-pills? I was really looking forward to open-source as a way out of a lot of the technological security, privacy, and freedom issues we were having in our current society.
Anyone resorting to using words like "DEI" or "woke" to disparage people or companies just show they don't have the acumen to make a proper point but just want to use shibboleths to show that they're "on the right side". Either way, will be interesting to see how these lawsuits end up.
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_Any_ company with a DEI policy needs to face discrimination lawsuits.
DEI = Division, Exclusion and Inequality
And then they need to face the wall.
All these corporations have been putting these policies in place under the assumption that if everyone does it, they can't sue us all!
But they can. If one lawsuit like this goes through and the precedent is set, it'll be a litigation goldrush. New law firms will be set up just to handle these claims.
Entire HR departments may get sacked, and the whole rotten system will have to go through reforms.
The reason DEI policy exists in the first place is to shield companies from discrimination lawsuits. It's just that antiwhite suits never gain any traction so they don't have to guard against them.
@@mwont Deception, Envy, and Intolerance.
My husband works for the Cook County (Chicago) water department, and they have to award contracts to a certain percent of minority business owners.
This has been the case since the civil rights acts have been passed. We must repeal the 20th century.
Honestly disturbing, but not surprising (from MKE)
Globally speaking, fair skin is a minority condition. Let that sink in at your next DEI meeting.
Federal govt. has to do the same. Contracts with 3 awards will mandate 1 must be female owned and 1 must be minority but they can't be the same one. So you can't just do one female minority. Almost always just burning money.
Most of the 'title XX' are setup the same way but with more or less subtlety.
What is minority owned? One share?
What if, and I'm going out on a limb here, but what if tech companies only focused on making a good product?
Das raciss.
I dunno... maybe
It just might work😊.
THAT'S JUST CRAZY TALK!!!
I believe that's about to happen in one month :)
As someone who rubbed shoulders with Red Hat employees at conferences - this did not surprise me at all.
They poisoned the awesome open source space and have driven away many enthusiastic and kind hearted developers with their toxicity.
Seems like by design, the dark worms burrowed in deep and then grew
I'll never be able to wrap my head around the fact that in the real world so many companies from so many different sectors of society have actually implemented these terrible policies. When I worked as a freight stocker at a grocery store, we had to listen to an introduction talking about racism. When I worked as an administrative secretary, there was a "power and privilege" manual there, too. It's sheer madness and greed beyond anything I could have imagined.
@@LPetal86 There was enough virulent racism to sustain slavery, the civil war, then segregation, scientific racism and eugenics. When we finally had a successful civil rights movement in '60s and it became clear that society rejected the overt dehumanizing of minorities, their belief system morphed into patronizing dehumanizing of minorities. And these white racists have a ton of self-loathing that they project on to the rest of us.
_there was a "power and privilege" manual there, too_
Yeah, this is how it got far worse after the civil rights movement. Someone got paid to write that, and you can go on glassdoor and find postings for DEI jobs. Racial grievance has been a developing industry since the CRM, including lobbying, law firms, university departments, consultants, etc. Most people aren't getting rich off it, but they also have no marketable skills and a resume that says "lawsuit magnet," so their livelihoods depend on activists maintaining a permanent racial fissure.
it all started with rust lang
@senkrouf I disagree. It was well in swing before rustlang. I think it was largely incubated in academia as feminist incursion to STEM, then came the "codes of conduct" into projects (eg. Ubuntu in something like 2008) and even more so into open source conferences where again CoCs were allowing these people to insert themselves into conference teams and also groups were essentially having entire parallel conferences made for them (nobody was excluding them in any way from the main conference!).
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion...how does that work if you are actively excluding a person based on their colour? Whatever happened to employing the best person for the job.
It never existed
Inclusion is just code for anyone but whites
You mean: Division, Exclusion and Inequality?
Their slogan doesn’t use “Equality”, it uses “Equity”. Meaning not only an equal opportunity but an equal outcome - even if one clearly outperforms another.
Because it doesn't.
The whole corporate system is corrupted like this. Not just in tech. Stories like these make me want to ditch "corporate Linux distros" and just use community efforts.
Yep DEI and ESG have ruined them completely.
Arch just got some huge amount of money fron "sovereign tech fund." Which has been a bad omen in the past.
@@googIesux As I understand it, it's from a fund for open source projects. They (the "Arch guys") presented their projects and won the grant. Something about improving and streamlining their packaging system (among other things).
Don't know, maybe they did sell out (we will give you this money if you do these changes), but so far there is no indication of that.
I do just that. That's why I didn't even try Fedora despite a lot of people praising it. Also wanted to test OpenSuse, but no. I'm cool with Mint, and when I have the time I'll just learn enough to switch to build my own Arch.
I'm just going to sit here quietly, waiting for you to realise just what's going on in the kernel development space.
7:00 the G in ESG scoring dictates that in order to get better Governance scores, directors and C suite executives must award themselves bonuses based on Environmental and Social policies they push and meet. This is litteral corruption, guys, every publically traded company following ESG should be open for fiduciary misconduct lawsuits by their shareholders.
Fun fact - ESG is required by law for every EU company with more that 500 employees. Soon for every EU company.
@@Montrala Your country needs to leave the EU.
Small hat shenanigans
@@legendarybluecollar No, it's 4th generation Marxism, very little if anything to do with Jews.
I work at red hat for 8 years. Since we were sold to IBM A and Jim whitehurst left, the company went downhill. A lot of discrimination and retaliation by higher management.
Before IBM takeover they were sacking christian developers who dare to speak against LGBT propaganda
People need to realise that this is Maoism. It's not just that the similarities between woke ideology and Maoism are uncanny. They're the same thing. It's Maoism for the western world.
Wokeism is Maoist.
Schwabby the space wizard has a bust of Lenin in his office....
One of the first things maos cultural revolution did was defend the police
Defend or defund
WTF don't go full wacko. Mao was not supportive of ethnic diversity.
"The system doesn't allow racism? Then the system is racist!"
well yeah, its your fault they dont do well. because everyone is equal duh! and everyone's own effort is stupid. dont worry about that. do nothing while resting easy, knowing you are just like everyone else. now when reality comes nocking, we must be dealing with some racist! that hate me and how little effort I put into my life, but why should I do ANYTHING, since we are the same anyway and no one is really that special because I am not that special duh!
these people are so narcissistic they dont realize other people are just better than them.
Why is there never an anti male discrimination suit, even though it's much more prominent? This is one thing I find surreal about the human psyche.
There are, you just don't hear about the huge 150million settlements they get after being professionally destroyed for years.
@fatman6660 I'm not talking about false accusations.
It comes down to voter blocks. The entire political system is designed to cater to the feminist block. And the political system will force that on to industries via regulation and throwing around grant money in order to virtue signal to the feminists.
The purpose of the system is what it does.
@@fatman6660 I'm not talking about accusations
They are, and create, who they claim to fight against by sowing division and spreading lies.
& without self awareness. Social media and news on a Venn diagram O O O )O
I want to point out that the judge has a lot of discretion as to how long they take to make even the smallest pretrial ruling. If a judge doesn't want to deal with a case, or doesn't want to see it go forward, they can sit on it for YEARS. And there isn't much you can do to speed things along. The facts that judges are sitting on all these lawsuits tells you which way they want it to go.
I'm guessing you can go to another jurisdiction if it's unreasonable
@xpusostomos Not if you already have a lawsuit going. You're stuck with no recourse.
@@trucid2 Couldn't you find a new victim who specifically wants a different jurisdiction, and then when that lawsuit is going well, join the others to it?
@@xpusostomosThe judges of a circuit decide whether to join cases, and it is a decision made by a vote of all judges of that circuit. Sometimes, judges on a circuit will campaign to time that vote and which way it will go, before bringing it to a vote. See the 9th Federal Circuit.
@@xpusostomosno, most you can do at that point is request a new judge to oversee the case but it's an uphill battle to have that changed. On top of that, the other side would have to agree with varying terms and points to concede replacing the judge as well
Even losing to the point that the entities are dissolved won't make any difference unless the individuals behind the policies are also destitute and/or imprisoned.
Look up preference cascade or hypernormalisation.
I think it will unwind quite quickly, actually.
@@huuhhhhhhh -Is this the rabbit hole i'm after?
@@kurtvanluven9351 You won't know until you try 🐇
Consequences
Without it there's no civilization
Let IBM and RedHat keep pushing this. They are the dumbest kind of criminal that keeps incriminating himself while already on trial. They remind me of the guy who was accused of car theft and he showed up in court in a car he just stole. 😀
Dismissing these employees would be a premature admission of guilt. The lawsuits, and the snails pace of the courts, has ironically improved their job security.
Meanwhile when basic math tests are used to test the competency of prospective math teachers and black and Latino teachers are less competent, the test is to blame, and there is a big lawsuit
Don't get your hopes up. The Legal system is a very iffy bet as it stands when it comes to these issues. All it takes is one activist judge to shut the lawsuit down and set legal precedent. And those activist judges are very touchy about anything that upsets the progressive stack.
Yeah, to put the problem another way judges all belong to the same social class that brought about these horrible practices in the first place.
You are mostly correct, except that legal precedent can only be set at the Appellate level. A Circuit Court of Appeals has to confirm a lower Judge's decision before that judgement becomes precedential, although when that judgement comes before the Circuit Court of Appeals, all existing judgements in similar cases can be brought in as support or to denounce the case that is being heard.
EDIT: And _then,_ the case can be brought before a trium of Appellate judges to confirm _that_ Appellate judge's decision, and then, a vote can be asked of _all_ judges at the Appellate level on that Circuit.
Check the 9th Federal Circuit for some really shady stuff that happened last year in its Circuit Court of Appeals.
@@davidgoodnow269 And in the insane case that this is seen as not illegal it will open the option to discriminate based on race
There were many unbelievable things I learned during an electrical apprenticeship.
Being told by an instructor we were the wrong minorities for a scholarship was the most confusing part of it. That was the entire reason I signed up. At least I got a coffee mug at the orientation with the Arioch scholarship. I had to get three years of perfect attendance and exam scores to find out I don't qualify lmao.
Then being told that the 'special' employees we had were DEI hires.
If they aren't competent enough to protect life and property then they don't qualify to do that job do they?
I had to take a pre-aptitude exam to qualify for the next aptitude exam to see how we would place on a special relations and dexterity tests.
Anyway, I was forced into some awful work related Anti-White and DEI complaint issues.
It was very odd and uncomfortable to be around people who were looking for racism in everything.
It got so bad, to make a long story short, I did go to court and the judge tells me I should try talking about it on social media to find more help.
Because why? DEI and reverse racism?
That's not what I want to do with my life, I wanted to do my job building things.
Well, good luck people of Earth.
Ikr? Stop looking for race in everything and guess what happens? …racism magically dissipates instantly. Why can’t they understand this? Lol it’s just spectacular
It's not reverse racism. It's just ordinary racism.
Come work in Indonesia they need lots of building and electricity work plus well paid.
@@yourlocalit1701 Some of my instructors were qualified to work around the world. It made the job even more interesting.
There is no such thing as reverse racism.
What about Microsoft with those anti-white slideshows? For doing this, these companies are dead to me, and I don't think I can ever forgive. One reason I don't like Fedora since it is connected to them. Doesn't a Red Hat mean you are a communist? I like the White Hat more, heh. Much respect to Lunduke for speaking out; I don't hear/see with mainstream media, quite true there Bryan.
You are on point good sir :D!!!
The red hat strategy is giving agency to expressing emotions, sharing personal thoughts, publishing creative ideas with no explanation or basis. Basically the 'space' where people can scribble outside the lines using all the colors.
Them not firing them is a tactical move probably coming from the lawyers. If they fire them it's a signal of guilt, and I guarantee the lawyers bringing the lawsuits would use that to argue "if you did nothing wrong, then why did you fire all of these people directly responsible and the architects of these presentations and policies?" Same thing with the policies and practices remaining in place. Changing and firing everybody, will be used to argue the guilt of these companies. They are backed into a corner now. If they do change and fire them, it will be seen as guilt, and if they don't it gives the opposition ammo to strengthen their cases. Cause it's obviously against the law in every state, and federally.
If you own a small business, make sure you’re taking this into consideration, cause there’s a lot of guys that this is affecting and will affect for a long time. This isn’t going away.
Thanks Bryan.
These are still huge stories and they need to be covered. I'm so glad that you are able and willing to do this. We need more people supporting this at your Locals site.
In my experience, I had to significantly hide my east asian sounding name to even get a single callback from tech companies.
Also the one I work for has ERG groups and DEI pledges in every break room. There are some workgroups you have to watch your words around, such as "GSN" (pronouns/names group).
That doesn’t surprise me. East Asians are basically considered honorary whites in the absurd hierarchy of oppressors.
I was just thinking "you never hear about "Asians..."" and it's as I thought, you're treated as "white/non-minority."
It's honestly disgusting and rude.
Everyone struggles to get a callback from tech companies now. The market is insanely over saturated.
@@HansZimmer-b1r and sadly many of them are the videos that we see of wmen posting thier "day in a life," video where they eat 5x a day and do a spreadsheet for 5 mins as "work,"
So many nonsense roles for nothing.
Then they all get fired a year later after the project is over ... lol.
It's very sad all around.
Nah, those aren't racist hiring practices. It's just that they hire people based on race instead of skill... Gee, we probably need a word to describe those practices 🤔🤔🤔
Blackish
Maybe need a space after the letter K
Process or decision of inclusion or exclusion based on race is the epitome of racism.
This might explain my incomprehensible IBM coding question recently (a lot of other Glassdoor reviews were just given fizz buzz and such). Glad I failed now.
hm. that would be a clever way to discriminate and get away with it, because afaik (private/corporate) companies are not required to publish the tests / hiring process.
That is how they discriminated at universities in the Society Union, if the examiner didn't like you, they would give you an Olympiad level math question, it could seem to only need school math to understand, but it's in fact very hard to figure out, or a proof for some theorem instead of just a problem that uses it, something most people don't try to remember
Don't forget the entire point of the legal system is to argue every point, don't take something said in court as something the client actually believes, for example a motion to dismiss doesn't inherently mean they believe in their reasoning, it's more so just because it would be weird not to try
Omg... who needs to watch the new black mirror episode? We are dang gum living in it!
I used to work for PwC we literally had a “no whites allowed” internship program
*sounds of file deletions intensify*
Don't hold your breath on setting precedents. The vast majority of lawsuits settle out of court (because both parties have an incentive to do so), and a settlement means no precedent for future cases to rely upon. The terms are often confidential. And worst of all, it's quite common for the settlement to stipulate that the defendant admits no wrongdoing.
One thing I'm not sure about, though, is the suit by a government. Is that less likely to settle, I wonder? I guess we'll have to see... some day.
Everytime I think about using Fedora again you remind me why I cant....
This reminds me of the case where Disney killed a lady and they tried to bring the case to arbitration because the husband agreed to a TOS that included an arbitration clause when he signed up for a free trial of Disney+.
It's nice to know these cases are going on, so we can keep our eyes open for news.
How do these people think they aren't going to get found out?
why would they care if they get found out? they never get punished
worst case scenario, the company gets fined, the execs give themselves a bonus, and they increase prices for customers
They don't think they're doing anything wrong. They believe that they are on the right side, fighting the good fight.
I don't think you understand. In the tech space, there are normal, everyday people who fully believe in the things that are pushed, are extremely hostile when triggered, and are just as manipulative as the people shoving it into their heads.
The well has been poisoned and the village folk are helping poison other wells, while blaming the resulting sickness on the people trying to help them.
Tip if the iceberg
Just wait and see what starts coming out in less than one month ;)
By IBM ADMITTING that they are violating the law, can you use SELF-INCRIMINATION to condemn and fine them?
In the first one, they want to get a Civil Rights Violation out of court and into arbitration. 🤣A cat can cover up what it did in the litter box, but it still stinks.
Why am i not surprised
Time to cancel IBM and red hat
DEI is actually Division, Exclusion and Inequality.
I wish this was true.
Multiculturalism/Multiracialism is unnatural
Thanks for reporting sir.
Surely those critical race theory lessons that all those guys had in university would stand to protect them in these courts.
I was recently made redundant and 95% of job applications all asked my race and sexuality.
You know exactly why they are asking
It should be put on a file and ignored.
To fire that IBM/Red Hat managers eould be an implicit admission that they are guilty.
They try to gain time not only for legal reasons, but also to not being on media.
It is important to continue to inform on IBM / Red Hat and other discriminatory practices.
They probably haven't fired the people you mentioned because they're worried that the reason for dismissal would be used in court as evidence.
Or they're just evil and they, as a company, don't believe they did anything wrong. 🤷♂️
Red Hat and IBM are learning the hard way, no one is too big to sue.
Several members of my family were affected by these, though not in the same company. I'm happy to see that it's changing.
This behavior is totally unhinged. I hope the corporate and external attorneys that reviewed and approved these policies are disbarred forever.
Outstanding reporting. Thank you for your bravery.
There is only thing keeping me from hoping that these lawsuits absolutely annihilate these companies: the normal non-DEI people that work for them. Thank you for reporting on this.
The results of these cases affect not those currently working at these companies, but anyone who applied for a job with them.
Both.
I don't get how they infected unix.
Just how they infected everything else
By other people's tolerance turned into their intolerance
That's something I have been wondering about for a while. This has to take an enormous amount of coordination and planning. Then there's how did this get the effort. Mapping it out as an exercise in symbolic logic using physics formula for work.
They are current or former college students.
Anyone who ever filled out an application there should file a case
I'm not familiar with usa legal system. But can they a take only black jury? Some specific jury? And win because they are big company? Or this lawsuit only related to judge without jury?
About time. I don’t know of another company as flagrant as ibm
Yuotube disappeared my comment saying thank you for reporting about this....lolxD
Write a letter to your congressman, that's a good career opportunity.
And who lobbies those congressmen and sponsors their campaigns? You or big-tech?
Whatever happened with the IBM "Old Hire" lawsuit?
This silliness will self destruct, these types always turn on each other. No one is "Pure" enough.
I hope they get made an example out of. I’ve just stopped putting my race on the “”””””voluntary disclusure”””””” forms they “”””totally don’t use against me”””” on applications at this point
I have a tiny bit of Lebanese in me so i put middle eastern/Caucasian to up my chances.
Taking action against the individuals responsible, or changing the policies, could be perceived as an admission of guilt. And if RH wins the lawsuit then that could open up complaints from anyone who they let go because of it. It's pretty standard practice to play the cards close to the chest while litigation is pending.
Those kind of quotas seem common in a lot of business’s now.. diversity quote is often quoted
I always said that the Woke Left is the new fascism. Left my company because of regular DEI briefings.
New? There is nothing new about it.
Oh wow, I worked with Virginia Bryan when I did customer marketing for RHEL. She made a comment as I was leaving about feeling excluded just because she was back, which surprised me.
eta: I also knew Lauren Pritchett. This is so surreal.
There have been similar quotas in Canadian tech companies for interview shortlisting
OMG. OMFG. I did not know about this.
RedHat has been a cesspool since somewhere around the RH6 days. I fled to debian/ubuntu based distros long, long ago.
I stopped watching Linus a while now, but I'm willing to bet none of his channels so much as mentioned this.
Are these slides real tho?
I'd love to see more pro-white companies.
I would love to see companies that just hire based on skill and experience. Leave out race, gender, sexuality, and ancestry.
Because companies that are and always ran by White People....more often than not White Men....weren't Pro-White to begin with ? It's almost as if racists are very, very stupid people.
@@AlphaNeon ...except for the fact they always hired based on race and gender....it just so happened that none of you cared when their hiring preference is White and Male.
@@AlphaNeon >furry
Ya, quite true there 20x20 and also to boycott these companies as well.
How about telling us how to financially support the plaintives.
do they think the legal system will ignore them. do the rules not apply. the employees have to follow the rules, at least those under C-suite level have to.
This is why I left millitary. Sad what we have done.
Great coverage, thanks!
None of these people ever contributed anything to linux, open source or software in general.
I am proud for no longer working at red hat
Equality and equity are impossibilities much like perfection is impossible.
There will always be the positive, neutral, and negative the more you try to put people into any given category the more they will expand into others.
Equity and Equality are very different.
Equality can exist on its own. Ideally it's an automated process. Everyone has the ability to succeed based on merit. Merit means you are the most qualified for what a situation calls for.
Although America was not founded with the explicit goal of being a meritocracy, it was the direction it ultimately took. Britain was an aristocracy at the time, so the prospect of being successful on one's own merit was especially attractive to non-aristocrats (almost everyone). It wasn't and still isn't perfect but it's the best system there is.
Equity means the outcome for everyone is the same.
Not everyone starts at the same place. Kamala said so herself and if she said it, it must be true, right? Some people have advantages that give them a leg up and that isn't fair. They may be intellectually gifted, more creative, driven or had more parental support as children. They might be demographically privileged.
We can't assume that everyone without an obvious advantage has their own unique talents, skills or ability to innovate. That's where DEI comes in.
Proponents of DEI believe, depending on what type of marginalization you've experienced, you should be compensated for those disadvantages. Equity requires some type of evaluation or intervention on behalf of each individual. The inherent inefficiency of such a system requires a generalized marginalization scale based on outdated stereotypes or outright discrimination to be implemented to expedite the process.
DEI is even more discriminatory than a merit based system. Merit assumes a level of competency is part of the goal. With DEI competence, is technically not required. Now when you're rushed to Woe Kest Hospital in an ambulance you'll wonder if that non-white doctor about to cut into you is qualified. He or she is probably a great doctor but you won't know for sure.
You probably know all this but perhaps the granular detail will be helpful for someone.
@@trailertrish2587 "Equality" can not exist on its own, as it's leftist aka unnatural. It has to be artificially imposed from above, always. That's why our side has to embrace hierarchy in opposition and not make concessions about "equality of opportunity" and other bromides.
lawyers who get paid by the hour profiting from court cases which take months to resolve
Its the same with male/female/other.
Yes.
Thank you for fighting the woke virus.
Crazy AF that this is happening, hope they win the lawsuits
if they had said this about black people instead of white people this would be in the mainstrem news. weird how it is ok to discriminate against some races but not others.
So that's what the drones over NJ are supposed to distract us from.
Division Exclusion Intolerance
DEI = Division, Exclusion and Intimidation
Bryan, you really need to go to Viva and Robert Barnes' show.
Amazon is very aggressive on DEI too, i know because i work for it
Don't think you should be joking about someones name (Booboo) considering the context... but yes I think this video is insightful.
Please someone make a based operating system. PLEASE!!!
OpenBSD
Soon, if you are not augmented with biotech, you will not have a job
When you dig into the DEI you find Blackrock and the WEF. Are you surprised?
Can confirm😉
Important content, but Jesus this was a painful one to listen to, the vast majority of the points made were regurgitated for a solid 15-20 minutes. How many times was “You’d expect” uttered?
Does anyone have any white-pills? I was really looking forward to open-source as a way out of a lot of the technological security, privacy, and freedom issues we were having in our current society.
Nothing is a slam dunk.
How surprising, oh wait, no it isn't.
Modern IT world is collapsing 😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
SuSE makes a damn good Linux ecosystem. RedHat should worry more about their products and less about being racist.
SUSE are also "woke".
Free Red Hat!
Anyone resorting to using words like "DEI" or "woke" to disparage people or companies just show they don't have the acumen to make a proper point but just want to use shibboleths to show that they're "on the right side". Either way, will be interesting to see how these lawsuits end up.