Alice some help needed.What is this track about and can we have the full track please so it would be easier for us to come up with some lyrics and vocals
I actually like that more and more of your videos are outside your studio. It’s refreshing to watch. Also your sense for new topics is really enjoyably. Thank you!
@@Alice-Efe Great video! And as many have commented, the production value on this is amazing. The added visuals/graphics aren't just eye candy and enhance the information being presented. Nicely done. One thing I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned in the comments - John Cage's 4:33. That's what immediately came to mind when Fatum mentioned a track of just silence. :)
Well... Techno with vocals. Now this is bit hard topic for me as i escape from other genres of music torwards techno just because techno does not have vocals. I would not play many tracks on my dj set with vocals but i have found myself throwing 1-2 tracks with vocals in my mixes. I agree that techno is changing but i refuse to change. So i have become bit of an archivist (stylewise) i like to keep much of the old idea alive but spice it with new sounds and techniques. And that is the beauty of it all. Lands of techno are vast and endless.
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I have always been in jungle and drum and bass the last 25 years. During covid lockdowns I started exploring Techno, I learned to love it and I am hooked on it. I am exploring so much in this and subgenres, there is so much historie an styles. These documentaries are really cool and informative. Thank you
This is really cool man. Excellent video, love this style and a great way to engage the community. Great to see your progression as a creator over the last couple of years! Props!
Great video, I loved it! :) I have a funny confession - I love techno so much because of no singing and vocals. No story, no lyrics, just pure rhythm, weird sounds, atmosphere, and hypnosis. I do get to love some music genres with vocals and I like some songs - but a vocalist that I don't particularly like is the best way for me to dislike a musical act. Two examples - from rock music, Black Sabbath. Amazing riffs, amazing playing, atmosphere, just moaning of Ozzy makes it impossible for me to listen to a Sabbath album. Or from more electronic music, James Blake. Very interesting music, rhythms, texture, but when I hear the vocals I have to turn it off. I emphasize - this is just a personal preference. Both are excellent singers and artists and objectively great. But some just like instrumental genres and sets without any vocals (I do enjoy hard techno remixes of pop songs, rave pitched vocals etc. though - but no melodies!), and techno was such a space for me. And it's ok for it to evolve in new directions, I don't mind it! But I guess this is one of the reasons why melodic techno as a subgenre never resonated with me (despite me liking many subgenres of trance, and obviously techno).
I feel vaguely akin to this. I do love me some melodic content in my techno, but I can take or leave vocals. I do feel like expecting vocals on tracks is a gate to those of us bedroom producers who can't sing, though. I've remixed a couple things, and I've used old radio shows. I've used my voice as effect, and I even vocoded a computer speech voice for one song that was meant as more poking fun at a certain celebrity CEO than as a serious track. I struggle hearing a beautiful track and then vocals come in with some of the cheesiest, cringey lyrics. The vocals are even nice rhythmically and melodically, but it just ruins the moment.
When I started listening to dance music it was disco, house, and techno, that's it. A lot of what passes for techno to me is just euro-pop. When I play/produce techno I do love narration and or poetry as it can really take the listener on a trip. Excellent production.
It's ironic that the track that gave the genre its name ("Techno Music" by Juan Atkins) is a vocal track, and the album that popularised the genre (Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit) was full of vocal tracks. Techno wouldn't even be a thing if Kevin Saunderson hadn't made 'Big Fun' with Paris Grey and Derrick May would be unknown if he hadn't helped compile the album for UK release in 1988. Techno originally became a thing because of good SONGS. It was only later that it went back underground and became predominantly instrumental and virtually irrelevant in terms of sales. You have to be really fucking good at melodies and sound design to make money from instrumental music. If you want an average person to listen, you need vocals.
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Vocals in Techno was beginning very early in the 90's btw. Michael Cores - RIP Commander Tom a lot of the Noom Records releases where done with vocals so there was no taboo. Sven Vath reales some vocal techno tracks as well... reminding Age of love and a lot of more. Hyper hyper...
This is fantastic content Alice, I really enjoy your production quality put into your videos. I got a history lesson too here, and found some new artists to enjoy. Thank You
Nothing beats mid 2000s trance with vocals. Terry Ferminal, Dogzilla, Kuffdam and Plant, Mark Sherry, John O'Callaghan etc. SO much better than any shit happening today, or even since then.
Techno was more punk than punk ever was. I'm always so full of joy when I hear new tracks that still give me that feeling. So raw and full of rebellion against norms within musoc. melodic Techno is fun, but it doesn't feel like Techno to me. it's more like trance. I'm not criticising it, but I don't view it as Techno.
Great video. I think vocals can be great in techno, i think the key to using them in techno is that the vocals should support the music rather than the music supporting the vocals.
I see it as acoustic music is fading and turning into electronic, so therefore you get the vocalists singing over what they are given. As for me coming from the acoustic vocalist background, my favorite part of electronic production is playing with a sound until I can hear words coming through the frequencies. Not putting my own voice into it, but rather letting the frequency have its vocal debut.
Wooow what a video...or should i rather call it, a documentary This video also reminded me of the old times, where i first started listening to techno in 2015... man those were crazy crazy times...im getting all emotional over here 😂 Thank you for your content once again
Amazing honestly! What a subject to take on, very brave of you. You're probably also aware that there are so many opinions about this. I feel like you succesfully covered all of the sides to this story. I really love this content, and as others have said the refreshing shots outside of the studio. I really like that about Oscar's (Underdog) channel too. You're doing so great, keep it up!!! Ty
In 1988, the seminal compilation album 'Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit' was released. Co-compiled by Derrick May, it featured the global hit 'Big Fun' by Inner City (Kevin Saunderson and Paris Grey) and Juan Atkins' Techno Music', the track that gave the genre its name. Both tracks featured vocals, of course, just like other seminal early techno tracks like 'No UFOs' and the proto-techno 'Clear' by Cybotron (in 1983!). The Belleville Three were basically making electronic disco music to rival Chicago House which also used vocals. It was only later that Techno turned into the mostly instrumental/underground stuff with the occasional pop crossover hit. For those of us that were there at the time it was all just house music, but the Detroit sound was a bit harsher and more robotic than the soulful styles from Chicago and NYC. It definitely had vocals though. Inner City wouldn't have been on Top of the Pops without them.
Loved this video, although I don't sit down and think about my tracks having vocals or not, my only thought is to make some music and see what occurs. Not really into genres as such but I've always liked the term EDM as a catch all...even though I'm 45
I think "Noise" from Denis Horvat is one of the best melodic techno with vocals in it. This songs gets never old for me. These kind of deep meaning vocals in combination with melodic techno is for me the most powerful music.
Great video! You could also argue that melodic techno was influenced by 2011 era deep house. When you listen to the etherial moogs used by TOU in their remix of Every Minute Alone or Disco Gnome, you can certainly hear who today's melodic techno was inspired by that also
next level youtube video format great job Alice you are a real story telling !!! and don't forget Marek Hemmann one of the first to start this trend in deep house melodic techno
While I don’t have a big issue with vocals in techno, I’m not keen on having them as anything more than another instrument in the mix. The first thing I fell in love with in techno was the fact that I could directly jack in (ha!) to the music and feel what I felt rather than guided by the the vocal and it’s meanings. I actually find vocals pretty restrictive in that respect; too much focus as opposed to that inference and hypnotic quality that works better for me.
Melodic techno is just trance coming back home to techno. In early 90s the term techno-trance was super common before trance went overground in mid 90s and pop in the early 00's. Trance lost all his "trance" and was just a empty name... techno kept the hypnotic vibe and adding melodies over it was basically doing techno trance all over again. Adding "singed" part simply kills the trance, since it's imposing content on my own experience. Spoken part or short Vocals sample are ok, but long-singed part are not in my opinion.
I find it some what difficult to distinguish between some progressive house and melodic techno. Have I missed something or is it just the amount of shuffle that's the difference?
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I don't think there's anything wrong with having vocals on a techno track per se, but what I do have against is the whole corporate aesthetic it's going for. The opposition to melodic techno is also guilty of this too, almost to the point that it's a parody of itself. Albeit "industrial techno" is more rhythmically driven, cheesy melodies and vocals do sneak in. Very, very cringe. Personally, I think that other subgenres handled vocals way more creatively than anything "melodic techno" has to offer. Hell, I even think that PC Music with all of their flirtation with pop music is way more honest and charming in the way they present themselves. TLDR; We should demand more from techno. Actually, fuck techno and the trancification of techno, that should've never been a thing to begin with.
2:47 "With the introduction of drum machines and synthesizers, everything become very affordable for the first time in the history". 3:12 "While, for the first time, producers had all the gear they need to create the whole track, they didn't have the financials or energy to really get the singer to sing their track." Yeah, because paying thousands of euros for synthesizers and drum machines is so much cheaper than finding a guitar in the trash, changing the strings and singing yourself. :P It's like when early hip-hop DJ:s bought dual turntables, mixers and PA systems, because they "couldn't afford" a 200$ drumkit or 100$ instruments and amplifiers.
I don't care, I listen to (and try to make) the music I like, regardless of what it's called. I do prefer instrumentals though, no matter which genre, so if *some* Techno will have verses and choruses in the future, I probably won't listen to it that much. But who knows, maybe it's good? Anyways, I'm sure there won't be a "take over": Techno is such a diverse thing, it has so many different faces, it can't be taken over just like that.
Videos like this are so much work, thank you very much. It’s an interesting topic. I feel like most of the vocals in Melodic Techno today are actually more like an additional (harmonic) layer, because they convey zero meaning. (And I guess some singing effort here upcoming ahead next weekend 😊)
I make both black metal and techno-esque synth jams. For both genres vocals are and have become a huge part of the aesthetic. But one thing irks me in both contexts. Sure, the spoken word is a very natural way to get a point across - but WHAT point? I have always had trouble translating my musical ideas to a linguistic one. The point I'm trying to get across is directly communicated in the music. Adding words only destroys the true 'idea' of my songs.
I think it is a general development in society. Since social media became such a powerful communication tool everybody could express their feeling via twitter, facebook, etc... And nowadays it has become almost mandatory to have an opinion, an ideology and to trumpet it out as much and often one can. Sorry for the social science approach to my answer, but it seems plausible to me. That being said I think that using vocals seems to be an equivalent or substitute for displaying an opinion.
Maybe peak time techno will go in direction like in song: Magnetic Touch · Stevan Mandic, where vocal is one of lead elements and has more to say than regular sfx vocals...
We have already wrote the channel name on the right corner in the footage but I will add the links on the description as well. Those are great documentaries, let's make it easy to find them 😊
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Alice some help needed.What is this track about and can we have the full track please so it would be easier for us to come up with some lyrics and vocals
Hi Alice ! Until when can we send you vocal demos ? :)
@@lauriehervot241 as soon as possible 😊
@@Alice-Efe ok, thank you :)
Alice you look great and I was here for the transformation. Idk i just think you're hot now lol. Hope all is well!
really like this style of video! great explanation, history of the use of vocals and an interesting conversation as well.
Thanks a ton! It is always scary to get out of confort zone and try new styles. Hearing comments like this is just so nice..
Agree!
I actually like that more and more of your videos are outside your studio. It’s refreshing to watch. Also your sense for new topics is really enjoyably. Thank you!
thanks for the chat alice! looking forward to hearing everyones vocal submissions. 😍
As always, it was fun to chat with you! 🧐☺
@@Alice-Efe Great video! And as many have commented, the production value on this is amazing. The added visuals/graphics aren't just eye candy and enhance the information being presented. Nicely done.
One thing I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned in the comments - John Cage's 4:33. That's what immediately came to mind when Fatum mentioned a track of just silence. :)
Next level production video! They keep getting better and better!
Well... Techno with vocals. Now this is bit hard topic for me as i escape from other genres of music torwards techno just because techno does not have vocals. I would not play many tracks on my dj set with vocals but i have found myself throwing 1-2 tracks with vocals in my mixes.
I agree that techno is changing but i refuse to change. So i have become bit of an archivist (stylewise) i like to keep much of the old idea alive but spice it with new sounds and techniques.
And that is the beauty of it all. Lands of techno are vast and endless.
beautiful documentary, loved it Alice, thank you so much (:
Thank you so much!
❤❤❤❤ I am 48 years old i have lived on 80s 90s and I love the videos that comes out on your channel i am producer two 20 years and i still learning 😂😂😂 but it’s a great thing that you do to inspire people to follow the dream big thumbs up about me and looking forward for your next videos 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤😇😇😇😇💯💯🔥🔥🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌
love the new format, love your videos ❤🔥
Happy to hear that!
Once you start gatekeeping the term itself rather than enjoying the music, it’s over.
I love this kind of documentary style video
I have always been in jungle and drum and bass the last 25 years. During covid lockdowns I started exploring Techno, I learned to love it and I am hooked on it. I am exploring so much in this and subgenres, there is so much historie an styles. These documentaries are really cool and informative. Thank you
I loved this video! The way you integrated history with the composition of your song was perfect!
Awesome Video! So much information and effort in your video. Thanks for that.
Really happy that you enjoyed it! ❤
This is really cool man. Excellent video, love this style and a great way to engage the community. Great to see your progression as a creator over the last couple of years! Props!
really really cool video. nice production and outside shots!
Great video, I loved it! :)
I have a funny confession - I love techno so much because of no singing and vocals. No story, no lyrics, just pure rhythm, weird sounds, atmosphere, and hypnosis.
I do get to love some music genres with vocals and I like some songs - but a vocalist that I don't particularly like is the best way for me to dislike a musical act. Two examples - from rock music, Black Sabbath. Amazing riffs, amazing playing, atmosphere, just moaning of Ozzy makes it impossible for me to listen to a Sabbath album. Or from more electronic music, James Blake. Very interesting music, rhythms, texture, but when I hear the vocals I have to turn it off. I emphasize - this is just a personal preference. Both are excellent singers and artists and objectively great.
But some just like instrumental genres and sets without any vocals (I do enjoy hard techno remixes of pop songs, rave pitched vocals etc. though - but no melodies!), and techno was such a space for me. And it's ok for it to evolve in new directions, I don't mind it! But I guess this is one of the reasons why melodic techno as a subgenre never resonated with me (despite me liking many subgenres of trance, and obviously techno).
I feel vaguely akin to this. I do love me some melodic content in my techno, but I can take or leave vocals. I do feel like expecting vocals on tracks is a gate to those of us bedroom producers who can't sing, though. I've remixed a couple things, and I've used old radio shows. I've used my voice as effect, and I even vocoded a computer speech voice for one song that was meant as more poking fun at a certain celebrity CEO than as a serious track.
I struggle hearing a beautiful track and then vocals come in with some of the cheesiest, cringey lyrics. The vocals are even nice rhythmically and melodically, but it just ruins the moment.
> I love techno so much because of no singing and vocals. No story, no lyrics, just pure rhythm, weird sounds, atmosphere, and hypnosis.
EXACTLY THIS.
When I started listening to dance music it was disco, house, and techno, that's it. A lot of what passes for techno to me is just euro-pop. When I play/produce techno I do love narration and or poetry as it can really take the listener on a trip. Excellent production.
It's ironic that the track that gave the genre its name ("Techno Music" by Juan Atkins) is a vocal track, and the album that popularised the genre (Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit) was full of vocal tracks. Techno wouldn't even be a thing if Kevin Saunderson hadn't made 'Big Fun' with Paris Grey and Derrick May would be unknown if he hadn't helped compile the album for UK release in 1988. Techno originally became a thing because of good SONGS. It was only later that it went back underground and became predominantly instrumental and virtually irrelevant in terms of sales. You have to be really fucking good at melodies and sound design to make money from instrumental music. If you want an average person to listen, you need vocals.
@@AutPen38 we don't want the average person to listen. :-)
8:12 Melodic Techno is nihilist, awesome!
I've always preferred instrumentals as it lets the listening decide the message, rather than having the message imposed on the listener.
Lol this is how I feel about trance music. Over the years I’ve come to realize it’s true for any genre of dance music
exactly this. not only in concept but also in words!
videography on this is fantastic
This is amazing, seriously. So much research, so much great info, and so nice to watch. Love it. Would love a load more like this.
I like the new format, almost like a documentary 😀
I really enjoy the format! Well done
This ist the best Chanel und RUclips, and it become better and better. Your content has such a big range of pure professionell knowledge! Thank you for making these Videos. Greetings from germany
Really happy to hear that, thanks a ton! ☺
Vocals in Techno was beginning very early in the 90's btw. Michael Cores - RIP Commander Tom a lot of the Noom Records releases where done with vocals so there was no taboo. Sven Vath reales some vocal techno tracks as well... reminding Age of love and a lot of more. Hyper hyper...
In the 80s when house first came out in Chicago , vocals were widely used. But I think that’s because they were pretty much making electronic disco
This is fantastic content Alice, I really enjoy your production quality put into your videos. I got a history lesson too here, and found some new artists to enjoy. Thank You
Techno can have some vocals, for sure. Not too much though. Too much can make you lose your trance that you are in.
Nothing beats mid 2000s trance with vocals. Terry Ferminal, Dogzilla, Kuffdam and Plant, Mark Sherry, John O'Callaghan etc. SO much better than any shit happening today, or even since then.
Late to the party, but love the documentary style - especially the outdoor walk-and-talks! And the killer jacket 💅
super cool video, really interesting and informative! thanks :D
Great video Alice! Love the format
love you alice! learning music and this is the content and creator i´ve been craving. thank you so much for your work.
This could geniunely be a documentary on BBC Iplayer, great work Alice
Techno was more punk than punk ever was. I'm always so full of joy when I hear new tracks that still give me that feeling. So raw and full of rebellion against norms within musoc. melodic Techno is fun, but it doesn't feel like Techno to me. it's more like trance. I'm not criticising it, but I don't view it as Techno.
I agree with you... i love melodic techno... but it s 100% trance for sure.
Great job! Loving the videos, thank you!!!
Thanks for watching! ❤
Loved this! Thank you for an amazing mini documentary!
Great video. I think vocals can be great in techno, i think the key to using them in techno is that the vocals should support the music rather than the music supporting the vocals.
If vocals become a must in techno, then it is no longer techno.
I loved this episode!!! Great documentary style 👌
Where can I find the full interview shown at 3:00 ???
Cool video! Nice to see you getting outside haha!
I see it as acoustic music is fading and turning into electronic, so therefore you get the vocalists singing over what they are given. As for me coming from the acoustic vocalist background, my favorite part of electronic production is playing with a sound until I can hear words coming through the frequencies. Not putting my own voice into it, but rather letting the frequency have its vocal debut.
Loving the documentary style.
You content is amazing 👏🏾👏🏾
Nice format, appreciate the high quality content.
Much appreciated! ❤
There's big reason why I like techno, I don't have to listen any vocal info going into my brain. I want just my basic spine brain work.
Brilliant video! The format is great, a lot of useful and informative points! Amazing job as always!!
I love your channel.
Your videos are amazing.
I have learned so much from you.
Thanks for all the work, keep it up!
Greetings from Berlin :D
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Nice to see you out of the studio 💯
Praga Khan did vocals on techno in the 90s. He was truly a pioneer :D
you upgrade the style of the video awesome!
Wooow
what a video...or should i rather call it, a documentary
This video also reminded me of the old times, where i first started listening to techno in 2015... man those were crazy crazy times...im getting all emotional over here 😂
Thank you for your content once again
Amazing honestly! What a subject to take on, very brave of you. You're probably also aware that there are so many opinions about this. I feel like you succesfully covered all of the sides to this story. I really love this content, and as others have said the refreshing shots outside of the studio. I really like that about Oscar's (Underdog) channel too. You're doing so great, keep it up!!! Ty
I want a french teacher like you in france, just for me, so good, thank's a lot !
Great Video!
In 1988, the seminal compilation album 'Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit' was released. Co-compiled by Derrick May, it featured the global hit 'Big Fun' by Inner City (Kevin Saunderson and Paris Grey) and Juan Atkins' Techno Music', the track that gave the genre its name. Both tracks featured vocals, of course, just like other seminal early techno tracks like 'No UFOs' and the proto-techno 'Clear' by Cybotron (in 1983!). The Belleville Three were basically making electronic disco music to rival Chicago House which also used vocals. It was only later that Techno turned into the mostly instrumental/underground stuff with the occasional pop crossover hit. For those of us that were there at the time it was all just house music, but the Detroit sound was a bit harsher and more robotic than the soulful styles from Chicago and NYC. It definitely had vocals though. Inner City wouldn't have been on Top of the Pops without them.
Loved this video, although I don't sit down and think about my tracks having vocals or not, my only thought is to make some music and see what occurs. Not really into genres as such but I've always liked the term EDM as a catch all...even though I'm 45
I think "Noise" from Denis Horvat is one of the best melodic techno with vocals in it. This songs gets never old for me. These kind of deep meaning vocals in combination with melodic techno is for me the most powerful music.
Thanks for this video! I needed some history🙏🙏
Wow excellent video. I create instrumental only (all AI based) but never thought about adding little bits of vocal here and there. Thank you.
Nice Docu👍
Top content! love this video
Great video! You could also argue that melodic techno was influenced by 2011 era deep house. When you listen to the etherial moogs used by TOU in their remix of Every Minute Alone or Disco Gnome, you can certainly hear who today's melodic techno was inspired by that also
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next level youtube video format great job Alice you are a real story telling !!! and don't forget Marek Hemmann one of the first to start this trend in deep house melodic techno
you did great with this video:) so subscribing now.
My heart cried when she sayed "and Metal music" and showed Nirvana playing 😢
Fantastic video!!!!
Silence has been done - John Cage 4:33
While I don’t have a big issue with vocals in techno, I’m not keen on having them as anything more than another instrument in the mix.
The first thing I fell in love with in techno was the fact that I could directly jack in (ha!) to the music and feel what I felt rather than guided by the the vocal and it’s meanings. I actually find vocals pretty restrictive in that respect; too much focus as opposed to that inference and hypnotic quality that works better for me.
10/10 video!
love a bit of melodic techno history
THis video was so much fun!
Melodic techno is just trance coming back home to techno.
In early 90s the term techno-trance was super common before trance went overground in mid 90s and pop in the early 00's. Trance lost all his "trance" and was just a empty name... techno kept the hypnotic vibe and adding melodies over it was basically doing techno trance all over again.
Adding "singed" part simply kills the trance, since it's imposing content on my own experience. Spoken part or short Vocals sample are ok, but long-singed part are not in my opinion.
amazing video
John Cage: 4'33 is the next thing in techno.
Someone Track id of 7:52 pls ?
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Aww thanks a ton Ivan!
Thanks for these cultural context Alice :)
I find it some what difficult to distinguish between some progressive house and melodic techno. Have I missed something or is it just the amount of shuffle that's the difference?
What plug-in do you use to analyze the armonics/ tone of the vocals?
Fascinating. I hadn't realised that there were such differences within electronic music.
Funny to see some Graphic Covers i have made are in the top Beatport charts and in this video :-D
7:39 isnt Techtrance also a combo of trance and Techno?
please make a video on the creation of the track from start to finish ( ? please
Hi! Do you plan to release a new course? Maybe a start to finish?
I don't think there's anything wrong with having vocals on a techno track per se, but what I do have against is the whole corporate aesthetic it's going for.
The opposition to melodic techno is also guilty of this too, almost to the point that it's a parody of itself. Albeit "industrial techno" is more rhythmically driven, cheesy melodies and vocals do sneak in. Very, very cringe.
Personally, I think that other subgenres handled vocals way more creatively than anything "melodic techno" has to offer.
Hell, I even think that PC Music with all of their flirtation with pop music is way more honest and charming in the way they present themselves.
TLDR; We should demand more from techno. Actually, fuck techno and the trancification of techno, that should've never been a thing to begin with.
2:47 "With the introduction of drum machines and synthesizers, everything become very affordable for the first time in the history".
3:12 "While, for the first time, producers had all the gear they need to create the whole track, they didn't have the financials or energy to really get the singer to sing their track."
Yeah, because paying thousands of euros for synthesizers and drum machines is so much cheaper than finding a guitar in the trash, changing the strings and singing yourself. :P
It's like when early hip-hop DJ:s bought dual turntables, mixers and PA systems, because they "couldn't afford" a 200$ drumkit or 100$ instruments and amplifiers.
I don't care, I listen to (and try to make) the music I like, regardless of what it's called. I do prefer instrumentals though, no matter which genre, so if *some* Techno will have verses and choruses in the future, I probably won't listen to it that much. But who knows, maybe it's good? Anyways, I'm sure there won't be a "take over": Techno is such a diverse thing, it has so many different faces, it can't be taken over just like that.
How about a video about mixing techno vocals 😉
I already have one 😉
Videos like this are so much work, thank you very much. It’s an interesting topic. I feel like most of the vocals in Melodic Techno today are actually more like an additional (harmonic) layer, because they convey zero meaning. (And I guess some singing effort here upcoming ahead next weekend 😊)
I make both black metal and techno-esque synth jams. For both genres vocals are and have become a huge part of the aesthetic. But one thing irks me in both contexts. Sure, the spoken word is a very natural way to get a point across - but WHAT point? I have always had trouble translating my musical ideas to a linguistic one. The point I'm trying to get across is directly communicated in the music. Adding words only destroys the true 'idea' of my songs.
Good Vid 😁
I stopped making trance and embraced melodic techno this year
I think it is a general development in society. Since social media became such a powerful communication tool everybody could express their feeling via twitter, facebook, etc... And nowadays it has become almost mandatory to have an opinion, an ideology and to trumpet it out as much and often one can. Sorry for the
social science approach to my answer, but it seems plausible to me. That being said I think that using vocals seems to be an equivalent or substitute for displaying an opinion.
Maybe peak time techno will go in direction like in song: Magnetic Touch · Stevan Mandic, where vocal is one of lead elements and has more to say than regular sfx vocals...
That silence track already exists on the Geogaddi. :)
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I reeaaalllllyyy think you should link the source of the documentary clips that you have used...
We have already wrote the channel name on the right corner in the footage but I will add the links on the description as well. Those are great documentaries, let's make it easy to find them 😊