Just another hipfiring monster, not impressed. Gunplay with this random spread models just feels boring and way to easy. And why so much visual recoil? I thought they realized it back in Bf4 that it sucks.
They should make an experimental variant of the Annihilator SMG where it has a drum magazine so there is more ammunition, but it has more recoil to it the longer you shoot it, just to balance it out.
Jaron Simon funny comment. But I find it annoying when long time collectors of firearms kinda put you down because you like guns because of gaming. Honestly I wouldn’t know about half the guns that I do now without playing BF and WW1 wouldn’t have been my favourite war to research. Obviously it’s annoying when you have children saying “oh, it’s that gun from that game”,but when someone like me (someone who has researched and became genuinely invested in the history) it’s not a welcoming atmosphere when they say you aren’t a proper enthusiast.
I've had the awesome experience of getting my hands on a real full auto "Tommy Gun". The recoil on the firearm is insane first round may hit your intended target the other 19 all low flying aircraft unaware birds even the International Space Station are in trouble! Intense gun to shoot, thank goodness I had plenty of BF4 experience 3 round bursts ruled the day.
I might just be a little rusty on my Thompson history, but if I recall correctly, the first model of the Thompson was the Thompson Model 1921, which was designed in 1921 (go figure), which was made 3 years after the end of World War 1. Again, I may just be recalling incorrectly. Also, I heard a bit about people saying "mehhh no drum mag mehhh" which I'm not sure if it's supposed to just be a joke, but interestingly enough, the Thompson's iconic drum magazine was never actually used in the military, or at least not issued in mass numbers. This was due to both unreliability, like constant jamming, as well as increased weight and just overall immobility, which as you can imagine, is not exactly something you want on a submachine gun, especially not one that's already heavier than most submachine guns. In fact, its large size and weight as well as its immobility was the main reason that the Grease Gun was created and used as a replacement. Without a proper weapon for tankers besides the 1911 (which is not exactly the best primary weapon), they created a compact submachine gun, the Grease Gun, for tankers, and also to serve as a replacement for the Thompson for many situations.
I turned on x2 speed of the video just for fun. The sound the gun makes makes it feel like a mini-minigun :P Imagine if we had such a weapon in ´real speed´
Got the chance to shoot a m1928 Thompson sub machine dun with a 50rnd drum mag the other day. So much fun! Hardly any recoil either. Also got to shoot a lahti l39 anti tank rifle from ww2 and a 500 magnum and Barrett m107. Shot them in Vegas!
Just a bit of history of Tommy gun. Developement started in 1916, the prototype was titled "Annihilator1" & by 1918 most of design issues had been resolved. However WW1 ended 2 days before prototypes were to be shipped to Europe. It was renamed The Thompson submachine gun in 1919 & the rest they say is history. This is a list of all names I could find. Tommy gun, Annihilator1, Chicago typewriter, Chicago piano, Chicago style, Chicago organ grinder, trench broom, trench sweeper, the chopper, the Thompson. Hope this cleared a few facts out. RustyinOZ
Re comments on range the Thompson uses the same .45ACP round as the Colt 1911. So it is a good stopping round but it is a pistol round. Good for close quarters but it does need the missing but stock.(at least the real one does). Also 20 rounds is a bit limiting hence the drum magazines for it.
Eric Borlagdatan The short answer no, it never saw service on an active battlefield. But this game has plenty of those kinds of weapons, so in Dice terms... yes.
It's like 95% accurate... You should play it and see for yourself and even better, The Great War knowledge will do you good. Then you'll retract the comment you made.
I really hate the new ttk update. Should have gotten used to it by now but no. Die after getting behind cover and get insta killed by high damage weapons. Not enough time to respond in unexpected fire fights. I means it’s satisfying to double tap someone with the rsc in 2 seconds but it’s too much
I know I am a bit late but I have finished the kill target for the Primary weapons but i am 90% complete for the Secondary weapons. So close to unlocking this weapon. Can't wait to use it!
I fired a full auto version of this at a gun range, it was the best gun I ever have shot in my life and I have shot close to 50 different types of guns. It has VERY low recoil it feels like it has a silencer on it the way it shoots. Also the full auto and the safety are 2 different switches which I have never seen. The only thing I didn't like is the open bolt design if you pull the mag out with bullets still in the chamber it will fire off a round. you have to lock the bolt to the rear... very dangerous if you don't know what your doing it is not user friendly at all.
@Darion Patton yeah, that would have been very cool ! They did the same in BF5 btw, it's supposed to be WW2 but everyone has laser sight and shit like that. Why make a WW1 and WW2 game if it's just a reskin of your previous game ? I mean, the historical context bring nothing into the game except for the visual aesthetic.
It's basically the Famas from BF4. Really high rate of fire with low magazine capacity and ridiculously long reload time. Also, horses are completely OP.
I just wish it had a larger ammo reserve. I run out of ammo with it very quickly. I feel like the SMG 08/18 still overshadows it though. You can easily gun down entire squads with that 81 round mag.
The Annihilator was introduced around mid 1918, Thompson Automatics/Thompson AutoOrdenance started full production after approval of the US Army and shipment was being prepared to Europe, but the war ended some weeks earlier.
This isn't even close to the most offensive thing to happen to this game's immersion. How about sprinting around hip firing with a machine gun that weighs over 100 lbs?
Lou McGopher To correct you there, a lot of countries around 1916 adopted this method of using LMGs, hipfiring seemed a viable suppressive tactic. It was most common with French soldiers and German ones, I don't know about Britain, America too adoped this idea when they introduced the BAR. And it even carried out to WWII, mostly with germany as far as I'm aware of.
Juri Haataja In this case it's called a bolt because it's all one piece, in the case of modern assault rifles you have a bolt carrier which houses a bolt.
Good on EA to add the version of the Tommy Gun which was made for the trenches and ,therefore, WW I but it was made in the end of the War and never saw combat ,thus, it was instead repurposed for and advertised for police forces and as an "anti-bandit" weapon. A little bit of an inaccuracy but it's fun to use
Trying to unlock this gun enlightened me on how many console players don’t expect a guy running at them with a 1911 even after I killed them 3 times already like that
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can you imagine when people first started using fully automatic weaponry against a squad of soldiers who had no idea they even existed
Fully automatic you mean the Gatling gun back in civil war? Existed 50 yearsprior to WW1
@@LyonPercival Still the sentiment exists... how do you think the guy who was operating the crank Gatling reacted to mowing people down
100 kills with primary weapon, 25 kills with secondary. "Pretty easy, did it in a round of amiens."
RandomRighteous I’m happy If I get A kill with a gun in Grenade Spam: WW1 Edition
Only joking, love BF1 :)
You got 125 kills in about a 30 min game my ass
G1r4ff35 4r3 C001 He didn't say he did. He was quoting Jack in the video.
Twisted_Tempest oh I see
I remember getting a kill in Amiens.
Who needs battlefield v when you got a Tommy gun in ww1
Shit game
@@jeremygarcia6251 BF1? No. BFV? Absolute trash.
Me.
@@jeremygarcia6251 Please just don't be a bully.
@Sharky Boii I played it and it's ok but not great
*mobsters are now mad that there is no drum magazine on tommy gun*
Did you just assume this SMG's type?????
PessimiztcBurger uuhhhhhhh
PessimiztcBurger That's not an SMG, it's a machine pistol. Check your fixed stock privilege
CottonBalls hahahahahaha
The Kool Aid Man Would've been funny if you said oh yeah 😂
It's by far one of the best Assault Weapons now.
Love it!
Yeah, I'll probably start using it. Thanks for the vid man.
jackfrags how to unlock weapon
Just another hipfiring monster, not impressed. Gunplay with this random spread models just feels boring and way to easy. And why so much visual recoil? I thought they realized it back in Bf4 that it sucks.
It reminds me of the AS VAL from BF4
SAY HELLO TO MY EVEN-SMALLER-SEMI-PROTOTYPE-FRIEND
You're a fucking God man, hahaha.
Genius.
Thompson, come on innnnnn!!
Hey Fraggieboi, your videos are therapy
Much needed therapy
Id say educational
2:17 jack: “stop blowing everything up”
Also jack: **INSTANTLY THOWS GRENADE**
2:16 "Stop blowing everything up..." *Throws Grenade* lmao
216 is 6*6*6
I’ve always loved your positivity when you play a game, for example: not getting mad every time you die, you just laugh which is awesome.🙂
Hey Jack, love the vids man, please keep the battlefield content coming.
They should make an experimental variant of the Annihilator SMG where it has a drum magazine so there is more ammunition, but it has more recoil to it the longer you shoot it, just to balance it out.
Aiden Freese Yeah. No.
or just make it overheat like crazy with lower overall stats
It's called the SMG 08/18.
Annihilator Defensive?
Low IQ: Knowing about this gun because of BF1
High IQ: Knowing about this gun because of Gun Jesus on Forgotten Weapons
No
Jaron Simon funny comment. But I find it annoying when long time collectors of firearms kinda put you down because you like guns because of gaming. Honestly I wouldn’t know about half the guns that I do now without playing BF and WW1 wouldn’t have been my favourite war to research. Obviously it’s annoying when you have children saying “oh, it’s that gun from that game”,but when someone like me (someone who has researched and became genuinely invested in the history) it’s not a welcoming atmosphere when they say you aren’t a proper enthusiast.
Even low IQ: Knowing about this gun because of fortnite
Me: knowing this gun from ahoy
@@arandomperson5434 Is there a Tommy gun in Fortnite?
The comedic timing is perfect in this video 👌😂 “oh, private jackson’s dead”
“I should be save here, no obviously not”
Shoot, reload, shoot, reload, shoot reload....
Hmmm, I think I'll stick to my beloved SMG08
Bit to high of a skill gap for ya?
Sal1n1ty with ur logic, i assume u also think the automatico needs skills 🤣
you haven't use the RSC yet or it's too hard to for you to handle?
Noob
Guys chill some people don't like high rate of fire, some would rather have a few extra bullets and bit less rate of fire.
8:17 “think I am safe here guys....”
*fucking dies 2 seconds later*
If you ever get a chance to fire a Thompson in real life, you have to go for it. It is pure joy.
spydirhsd You sound like you are in a mafia. Scary.
Why though because he says firing it is fun?
spydirhsd but which one? owo
I've had the awesome experience of getting my hands on a real full auto "Tommy Gun". The recoil on the firearm is insane first round may hit your intended target the other 19 all low flying aircraft unaware birds even the International Space Station are in trouble! Intense gun to shoot, thank goodness I had plenty of BF4 experience 3 round bursts ruled the day.
“Sometimes people camp up here” Then jack proceeds to camp lol
Love your channel and videos
MRswipe1, it's been a long time I didn't see you. If you're watching this comment, let me know you're there!!
Yo wtf
Swipez ohhh
What
It's been 3 years but wow I didn't expect you to be here
I guess my youtube algorithm just knew I miss a good battlefield and recommended this video, always glad to see some good battlefield 1 gameplay.
The gun is op af in trenches. Hence the name; "Annihilator Trench"
Another really strong assault weapon, just what this game needed...
Ben Binkel ikr i needed something to distract me from my 100 service star 10-A hunter run
Ben Binkel Yeah, ‘cause the other classes don’t have overpowered guns that are “skill-cannons”
sallybatzzz dont brag about it, its sad
twingley explain?
twingley - at least he didn't say ''100 service star Hellriegel Defensive run''
Behind the garand, the Thompson is the coolest looking ww1-2 era weapon no doubt. Awesome video!
Oh boi i cant wait for people to whine about this gun being "OP" and seeing it getting smashed with a nerf hammer.....
manke man Naw if the smg o8 hasn't been nerfed, this also won't be...
It does look OP
manke man it has very little magazine capacity. Pretty balanced. Overall it is a better steyr p16 and a worse automatico
I dont think its OP its just good at taking one person down very quickly in close range, close range only
manke man we’ve got one patch left in bf1s lifecycle so I doubt it.
I might just be a little rusty on my Thompson history, but if I recall correctly, the first model of the Thompson was the Thompson Model 1921, which was designed in 1921 (go figure), which was made 3 years after the end of World War 1. Again, I may just be recalling incorrectly. Also, I heard a bit about people saying "mehhh no drum mag mehhh" which I'm not sure if it's supposed to just be a joke, but interestingly enough, the Thompson's iconic drum magazine was never actually used in the military, or at least not issued in mass numbers. This was due to both unreliability, like constant jamming, as well as increased weight and just overall immobility, which as you can imagine, is not exactly something you want on a submachine gun, especially not one that's already heavier than most submachine guns. In fact, its large size and weight as well as its immobility was the main reason that the Grease Gun was created and used as a replacement. Without a proper weapon for tankers besides the 1911 (which is not exactly the best primary weapon), they created a compact submachine gun, the Grease Gun, for tankers, and also to serve as a replacement for the Thompson for many situations.
I have to get on battlefield 1 now
6:55: PARKER GET OUUTT!
Your voice at beginning xD To much God of War?
Flar2me BOY!!!
Too*
Too
Flar2me lmao
Too
“Woooow it’s a monkey” best Jack reaction I’ve seen in a long time
I turned on x2 speed of the video just for fun. The sound the gun makes makes it feel like a mini-minigun :P Imagine if we had such a weapon in ´real speed´
RareGlue so basically a MG3/MG42?
There is. The Villar Perosa shoots about 2X the speed.
Got the chance to shoot a m1928 Thompson sub machine dun with a 50rnd drum mag the other day. So much fun! Hardly any recoil either. Also got to shoot a lahti l39 anti tank rifle from ww2 and a 500 magnum and Barrett m107. Shot them in Vegas!
"guys you can stop blowing everything up" immediately throws grenade
Battlefield 4 was the last BF game i've played. I almost forgot that BF1 exists. I've just picked it up thanks to this video.
I haven't played BF1 in months. I want to give it one last good run through before the new one in the Fall.
I wonder if the military ever tried to make a heavy tommy, like a LSW or even LMG.
You unlocked it so fast, well done
HugDog ### you can unlock it in like 2 hours✅
HugDog ### gotta get them views boi
Love the live commentary vids, keep up the good work.
True fact:the Tommy gun was originally intended to be a trench sweeper but the war ended before it was finished.
A rear sight that also functions as a cocking handle? That’s got to be one of the coolest weapon features I’ve ever seen.
"Is anyone else wearing headphones?!?"
This is Bf1 Jack ...
Nobody is wearing headphones
Just a bit of history of Tommy gun.
Developement started in 1916, the prototype was titled "Annihilator1" & by 1918 most of design issues had been resolved.
However WW1 ended 2 days before prototypes were to be shipped to Europe. It was renamed The Thompson submachine gun in 1919 & the rest they say is history. This is a list of all names I could find.
Tommy gun, Annihilator1, Chicago typewriter, Chicago piano, Chicago style, Chicago organ grinder, trench broom, trench sweeper, the chopper, the Thompson. Hope this cleared a few facts out. RustyinOZ
But the question is: "is it vetter than the Hellriegel?"
I think it is
11:25 - "whoa it's a monkey!" - Favourite part of the video
Best part is that the enemy soldier was a scout lmao
I think jack is the best bf player by far one of the smartest
11:24 me at a zoo
Hip, very good
Finally back to the live commentaries. I like them so much more than how he changed the challenge videos to more of a montage style
The AS VAL reborns😍😍😍
I really enjoy +20 min videos keep up good work Jack
Hello JACK!
Re comments on range the Thompson uses the same .45ACP round as the Colt 1911. So it is a good stopping round but it is a pistol round. Good for close quarters but it does need the missing but stock.(at least the real one does). Also 20 rounds is a bit limiting hence the drum magazines for it.
JAgraphics Video Butt stock and drum mag for the real Thompson, this is the 1919 Prototype, for WW1.5, AKA BF1
Is it still worth it to buy BF1? I dont have it.
SprightlyAsh8 Not really
i sold it long ago but i play on console
SprightlyAsh8 yes
Of course it is still worth it, look at the video above lol
You should wait for the next game now it will be out in october....
Loving the commentary on this video, Jack 👌
Did the thompson already exist back in ww1?
yes, it is
build in WW1, but was late to join the battle 3 days
Eric Borlagdatan The short answer no, it never saw service on an active battlefield. But this game has plenty of those kinds of weapons, so in Dice terms... yes.
4:10 that line was cold 🥶
i'd rather watch Jack using and explaining this weapon vs Westie 3 hrs long snail speed history lesson lecture of this gun
Dont do my boy Westie
Congratulations
Westie on that 10 min ad grind yo
I actually own a three hour documentary about this gun
I just unlocked this the other day without even realizing it existed. Nothing beats this at close range with the exception of a good shotgun player.
Remember when they said BF1 would attempt to be historically accurate?
Jacob Mattheiss The game is near dead, players want more they can hardly care now.
Jacob Mattheiss thompson was also used in ww1
Literally the in game tool tip admits it was never actually used in combat
Jacob Mattheiss o lol, just like the helreigel, is it out of CTE btw?
It's like 95% accurate... You should play it and see for yourself and even better, The Great War knowledge will do you good. Then you'll retract the comment you made.
I think that this gun would be perfect on a game of dom or tdm so basically all close quarter gun fights
Haven’t played BF1 in about a month. Gonna hop back on for this beauty.
14:19 british soldier in window lmao
how did you see him lmao
@@BigBoyz33 no idea
it is hard to find a mach
kTHNXspawnGG are you playing cod? Jokes!
The servers are packed
I legit thought it was Tyson Fury narrating for a second there😂
What happened to JackW1ck
love me some hip fire action, its actually faster then sprinting stopping and aiming, give you the advantage up close.
They should call it the Sun cos when you get too close it melts
"Guys you can stop blowing stuff up now"
2 seconds after saying that tosses grenade doing what he was saying not to do
I really hate the new ttk update. Should have gotten used to it by now but no. Die after getting behind cover and get insta killed by high damage weapons. Not enough time to respond in unexpected fire fights. I means it’s satisfying to double tap someone with the rsc in 2 seconds but it’s too much
Have you tried improving at the game?
MILSIMPRODIGY getting better at the game don’t help with shit netcode!
Yep the netcode is fucking abysmal
Goodjob on replying on ur on comment
JC & Veryse look again dipstick
I know I am a bit late but I have finished the kill target for the Primary weapons but i am 90% complete for the Secondary weapons. So close to unlocking this weapon. Can't wait to use it!
hi
tomer ron hi
I fired a full auto version of this at a gun range, it was the best gun I ever have shot in my life and I have shot close to 50 different types of guns. It has VERY low recoil it feels like it has a silencer on it the way it shoots. Also the full auto and the safety are 2 different switches which I have never seen. The only thing I didn't like is the open bolt design if you pull the mag out with bullets still in the chamber it will fire off a round. you have to lock the bolt to the rear... very dangerous if you don't know what your doing it is not user friendly at all.
BF1>BFV
Jack is by far my fav youtuber
show me your tommy jack
@jackfrags a question... how do you equip that logo of yours on all your gear and weapons? :O i want that too
Great another cheap, easy weapon that can dump truck you. GG DICE
RandomGames ha ha ha
You know this isn't just the one weapon, there's aload that came and there's still more to come😐
RandomGames you are an epic meme lord bro!
Catalyst_HD Depends on the player my dude
RandomGGames lulz
Dice : "let's make some authentic WW1 game"
**everyone runs around with LMG, SMG and other automatic weapon**
@Darion Patton yeah, that would have been very cool !
They did the same in BF5 btw, it's supposed to be WW2 but everyone has laser sight and shit like that. Why make a WW1 and WW2 game if it's just a reskin of your previous game ? I mean, the historical context bring nothing into the game except for the visual aesthetic.
6 views, 166 likes. God damn.
Elma nein
Mate,this is not funny,it never was and it will never be.
Attack Helicopter says attack helicopter lol
It's basically the Famas from BF4. Really high rate of fire with low magazine capacity and ridiculously long reload time. Also, horses are completely OP.
So many SMGs but nothing is better than Hellriegel
ribeyrolles optical is
Alessandro Cornacchia nah ☹
Kostas Mitros Hellriegel is form Austria
Hellriegel is a bloody laser beam. OP af in my opinion and I avoid it, but I don't blame people for only using the Hellriegel.
factory is better
I just wish it had a larger ammo reserve. I run out of ammo with it very quickly. I feel like the SMG 08/18 still overshadows it though. You can easily gun down entire squads with that 81 round mag.
Class, standard, keep the great vids coming dude
The customization in this game is embarrassing.
Who gives a fuck about customization in a WW1 game ?
Me
6ixnik they really should’ve kept the gun customisation from bf4
6ixnik you're common sense and knowledge is just as embarrassing.
Well its World War 1. There's not much to customize in terms of guns and attachments.
"Guys stop blowing things up"
*Throws grenade*
this isn't WW1
Gunnz Akimbo Yes it is
The Annihilator was introduced around mid 1918, Thompson Automatics/Thompson AutoOrdenance started full production after approval of the US Army and shipment was being prepared to Europe, but the war ended some weeks earlier.
The war in 1918 was the prelude of WW2. The combat style was the same of ww2.
This isn't even close to the most offensive thing to happen to this game's immersion. How about sprinting around hip firing with a machine gun that weighs over 100 lbs?
Lou McGopher
To correct you there, a lot of countries around 1916 adopted this method of using LMGs, hipfiring seemed a viable suppressive tactic. It was most common with French soldiers and German ones, I don't know about Britain, America too adoped this idea when they introduced the BAR.
And it even carried out to WWII, mostly with germany as far as I'm aware of.
Sweet vid! The Tommy is notorious for its rate of fire. An extended mag would be helpful. Thx again Jack.
I love the bolt carrier animation or whatever it's called in english, the part that puts new bullet in the chamber between shots.
Juri Haataja
In this case it's called a bolt because it's all one piece, in the case of modern assault rifles you have a bolt carrier which houses a bolt.
TheOtakuComrade Thanks for clarifying and making me and hopefully many more, wiser :)
Juri Haataja
It's a pleasure to be helpful and not being called a weeb smartass.
Good on EA to add the version of the Tommy Gun which was made for the trenches and ,therefore, WW I but it was made in the end of the War and never saw combat ,thus, it was instead repurposed for and advertised for police forces and as an "anti-bandit" weapon.
A little bit of an inaccuracy but it's fun to use
DUDE I can't believe it, I was hoping they would add the annihilator into the game eventually, this is AWESOME!!!
Trying to unlock this gun enlightened me on how many console players don’t expect a guy running at them with a 1911 even after I killed them 3 times already like that
I am all about the jackfrags shit talk... “Woolly Mammoth!? Extinct!” 20 kills later “I thought you were extinct already Woolly Mammoth” 😂😂😂
A new banger video, nice jack
20:41 there is a cavalry guy got blowed up at the horizon LOL.
This has been one of the most entertaining videos from you Jack! Fu@King loved it!
That debris guy is surely the mvp of battlefield
The Thompson Annihilator In battlefield 1 is my favorite gun too.
I’m loving the new slug variant of the inertial shotgun. Medics and support no longer have an advantage at midrange when using it
jack, you are one of a kind. god bless you mate. cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!