@@bearjewmtb4827 that depends a bit on terrain. I think the Tempo is more fun a wider range of stuff including steeps. I think the Evil is a touch livelier on mellower terrain and small jumps.
They have rather different approaches and maybe geared toward different riders. The Smuggler is a bigger bike both wheelbase and significantly longer reach. The frame also outperforms the fork as far as stiffness and makes for a bit unbalanced feel. The Smuggler's suspension climbs with the best of them but then sacrifices traction on the descents. As far as the Tempo the suspension stays more active both descending and climbing. I tend to prefer that, as it has predictable traction even under heavy braking. Lastly, I would say they are both on great sales but for the money Commencal kills it! I would go Ohlin's edition all day with the 36.
I really like the suspension on both bikes, but it really comes down to the travel numbers. The Meta does better at higher speeds and bigger features and jumps. The Tempo is marginally peppier on the climbs and smooth jumps, making the Meta a little better all around. It will really depend on your terrain and what you like to ride.
Did you try Rocky Mountain Instinct 2024 ? Can you say some alternatives to this frame? Last time i was riding almost 90min and love it, then i start searching alternatives, but i cannot find anything what are so "Fit Out of the box" and suit to my predispositions. I try Ns Bike Define, Giant Trance, Calibre Bossnut, Dartmoor Bluebird but the RM Instinct was top.
I have not yet. My favorite alternatives (in the 120-130 range) are probably the Evil Following for full 29er and the Santa Cruz Nomad for mixed wheel. As far as "Fit out of the box" it's hard to beat those current sale prices on the Commencal's especially if you're looking for an alloy bike.
Both bikes have the same head angle but that's about where things end. The body position on the Ripley feels more like a traditional xc bike. The Tempo with its taller head tube, steeper seattube and longer rear center allow for a bit more performance on technical descents and climbs. The super low top tube is also great for moving around on the bike. Commencal's suspension is more active and ground hugging while the DW of the Ripley offers a firmer platform when hammering on the pedals. They are both great trail bikes but it's going to depend on your terrain and style.
What are you filming this video on?
@@HarryStewart-m9e gopro12 with the max mod 2.0 and just an iPhone
Planning on getting this but the ohlins edition I wonder if that fork would help the stiffness up front
That is the way I would go. I think the Ohlin’s 36 would make all the difference, and the deal on Commencal’s site is insane!
Tempo vs the following, which do you think is more fun?
@@bearjewmtb4827 that depends a bit on terrain. I think the Tempo is more fun a wider range of stuff including steeps. I think the Evil is a touch livelier on mellower terrain and small jumps.
@ yea, I think the following is gonna be the way to go for me. Thanks for the input!
Comparison to transition smuggler ?
They have rather different approaches and maybe geared toward different riders. The Smuggler is a bigger bike both wheelbase and significantly longer reach. The frame also outperforms the fork as far as stiffness and makes for a bit unbalanced feel. The Smuggler's suspension climbs with the best of them but then sacrifices traction on the descents. As far as the Tempo the suspension stays more active both descending and climbing. I tend to prefer that, as it has predictable traction even under heavy braking. Lastly, I would say they are both on great sales but for the money Commencal kills it! I would go Ohlin's edition all day with the 36.
@@NICADV thanks great answer
Comment le compares tu face au méta v5 ? Montée ? Descente ? Fun ? Thanks
I really like the suspension on both bikes, but it really comes down to the travel numbers. The Meta does better at higher speeds and bigger features and jumps. The Tempo is marginally peppier on the climbs and smooth jumps, making the Meta a little better all around. It will really depend on your terrain and what you like to ride.
Merci,
Avez vous trouvé une grosse différence de performances en montée ?
Et trouvez vous que le méta v5 monte bien dans les longues montées.
@@gattydavid660 It's not huge but I'm generally more concerned with climbing technical terrain rather than speed.
@@gattydavid660 It does great on big climbs!
Did you try Rocky Mountain Instinct 2024 ? Can you say some alternatives to this frame?
Last time i was riding almost 90min and love it, then i start searching alternatives, but i cannot find anything what are so "Fit Out of the box" and suit to my predispositions.
I try Ns Bike Define, Giant Trance, Calibre Bossnut, Dartmoor Bluebird but the RM Instinct was top.
I have not yet. My favorite alternatives (in the 120-130 range) are probably the Evil Following for full 29er and the Santa Cruz Nomad for mixed wheel.
As far as "Fit out of the box" it's hard to beat those current sale prices on the Commencal's especially if you're looking for an alloy bike.
did you change the stock components ?
It was a frame up build
How would you compare this to the ibis ripley af?
Both bikes have the same head angle but that's about where things end. The body position on the Ripley feels more like a traditional xc bike. The Tempo with its taller head tube, steeper seattube and longer rear center allow for a bit more performance on technical descents and climbs. The super low top tube is also great for moving around on the bike. Commencal's suspension is more active and ground hugging while the DW of the Ripley offers a firmer platform when hammering on the pedals. They are both great trail bikes but it's going to depend on your terrain and style.
@@NICADV Awesome. Thanks for the detailed response!!
Please,name of stem ? Thx !
It is the Hope AM/Freeride Stem. The new version is called the TR. Here is a link to it on JENSON USA: alnk.to/3ngT7ES
How tall are you?
5’ 11” or 180cm
@@NICADVat 5’11” would you say the Large was the right fit for you? I’m 5’10” with a 33” inseam. Thinking Medium as the 470 reach feels long.
@@SeanHuckleberryAdventurePease I could definitely ride the medium. I prefer the 470-475 reach but it’s your preference.
@@NICADV thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
If you needed some faster climbing footage you coulda just asked me, no need to worry about all that editing
I’d invite you, but one of us seems to get smashed up every time.😂
@@NICADV well to be fair, both of us have been experimenting with crashing independently recently as well
@@tylertruksa1378 true
YT Izzo please!
@@Bittersfamily0424 that’s definitely one I’d like to try