Thank you.I had similar experience with psychosis.And I am happy that I am not the only one. I have never told to anybody, but im my psyhosis during I was sleeping I heard the voice waking me and telling me,,God is an idea".. i felt happy with because i had my religious crisis and the answer was perfect. You can interpretate in in 2ways....than I woke up and went outside and I saw on the sky a formation like an Orion, similar to your symbol. I have changed myself..my ego was dead..I started to meditate, red an watch everything about synchronicity. I had precognitiv dreams, vision since than. I am taking medicine, because doctors wont believe me and i had once again a psychosis. But i have have changed my job and i am doing well.
Thank you! So insightful. I have felt and learned and be shown this to be a truth in our times. Thank you for putting words to it and spreading the concept
Thank you so much for your work, its truly insightful to me and you give great theoretical references. I think it's inspiring to watch you speak with clarity on a complex topic without loosing touch with your own experience! 🌅
At the risk of oversharing, I read your comment when I was bummed out and questioning if all the hard work is worth it. Feedback like this truly does make a difference and inspires me to keep wading through the complexity and sharing. Thank you 🙏
This was really good. I needed this. I'm going through the chaos right now. It's painful beyond what is possible to imagine, and really terrifying. It's a shame that there aren't any place for people going through this to meet and connect.
I feel you and know the intensity of the pain. I'm happy this talk provided some solace. Know you're not alone and there is a way through. Let me know if there are related topics you'd like me to cover, and I'll do my best to do so.
Where are the people we can talk to when experiencing this? I am needing a spiritual psychiatrist or shaman, a being that understands. I’ve been diagnosed with mental illness, personality disorders and hormonal imbalance disorders and I’m aware it’s not my soul, and have moved a lot of the trauma but when I’m episode it’s my hell of Maya. I’m blissful and in grace when medicated which is fine. Does anyone have recommendations kindly.
There are a number of organisations approaching these topics with care. As well as individual psychologists/therapists that are aware of spiritual emergency. Check out: Spiritual Emergence Network: www.spiritualemergence.org/ Spiritual Crisis Network: spiritualcrisisnetwork.uk/ ISPS-US: isps-us.org/ Certain therapies, such as IFS or Jungian analysis, may also be worth exploring.
I'm sorry to hear that - the lack of understanding when experiencing these types of extreme states adds another layer of difficulty. I hope you're finding your way 🙏🏻
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to within this talk, but I'd say the "normal" senses are those linked to ordinary perception (sight, hearing, touch, smells, taste). "Abnormal" isn't an ideal word because senses outside of that domain are natural, we're just severely disconnected from them. Broadley speaking I'd include spiritual sensitivity, gnosis, psychic sensitivity, energetic sensitivity, imaginal sensing (i.e. sensing and perceiving images from the unconscious) and more.
@@MindThatEgo The opposite of "normal" is "abnormal." Outside of the norm or what is expected. Normal senses result from specific organs that acquire information about different aspects of reality. Vision captures photons with information about external objects, hearing translates differences in air pressure around us, taste buds distinguish chemicals dissolved in saliva, smell detects chemicals in the air, and touch senses pressure, temperature, or damage to our skin. We can also perceive our vertical orientation concerning gravity (hearing), variations in sugar levels, water, etc., from within our bodies through our biological systems. But what is the organ, system, or process that produces the information of a "spiritual" sense, and what is the origin of that information? Perceiving images from the unconscious would not be an example of perceptual sense. Our unconscious is neurological activity, and for us to consciously distinguish that content corresponds to being able to consider it consciously (it stops being unconscious); therefore, it is not the perception of another layer of reality but rather a change in the status of information already acquired previously.
@@EduardoRodriguez-du2vd I'm aware of the definition of abnormal. But what is defined as normal or abnormal depends on context, and my point is that in a materialist culture, what is "abnormal" may be as "normal" as "normal." I appreciate the points you're making and the detail in how you explain the relationship to the unconscious. It's food for thought. What I'm talking to is in part apperception, which I would say is a form of perception. In Buddhism, for example, mind is a sense organ alongside those you mention. Jung in particular spoke of the acquisition of absolute knowledge being through inner perception, not cognition. Many other thinkers allude to the same. I agree that there's a double-bind in unconscious material becoming conscious the moment it's within the field of perception. There's a difference between perception of newly conscious material and the direct perception of another dimension. Equally, we have the ability to "make conscious" or engage with the source of that content and more information or data can emerge. Our mind, as a sense organ, is mining the depths, and the filter between conscious/unconscious reduces. Spiritual or energetic senses are another leap and I'm not clear on where you're coming from, if you're arguing a materialist/biological view or curious or skeptical. But I would say that if you are trying to apply the paradigm of thinking about "normal" senses to those domains, you'll always come up short, because your model of thinking itself implies a biological/material view. To give you an example, for many people, the phrase "listen to your heart" makes absolute sense. It's not rational. And yet there appears to be the perception of listening to and receiving insight or information from a deeper pool of wisdom. Is that purely a metaphor? Or could it be that there are unseen dimensions that mirror our senses in ways that aren't biological or material?
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Thank you.I had similar experience with psychosis.And I am happy that I am not the only one. I have never told to anybody, but im my psyhosis during I was sleeping I heard the voice waking me and telling me,,God is an idea".. i felt happy with because i had my religious crisis and the answer was perfect. You can interpretate in in 2ways....than I woke up and went outside and I saw on the sky a formation like an Orion, similar to your symbol. I have changed myself..my ego was dead..I started to meditate, red an watch everything about synchronicity. I had precognitiv dreams, vision since than. I am taking medicine, because doctors wont believe me and i had once again a psychosis. But i have have changed my job and i am doing well.
Lovely story, thank you for sharing. I'm delightful you navigated such a tough journey and now you're doing well.
Thank you! So insightful. I have felt and learned and be shown this to be a truth in our times. Thank you for putting words to it and spreading the concept
It's an honour, truly. Thank you for engaging and your kind words 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for your work, its truly insightful to me and you give great theoretical references. I think it's inspiring to watch you speak with clarity on a complex topic without loosing touch with your own experience! 🌅
At the risk of oversharing, I read your comment when I was bummed out and questioning if all the hard work is worth it. Feedback like this truly does make a difference and inspires me to keep wading through the complexity and sharing. Thank you 🙏
@@MindThatEgo you got this! Happy it lifted you up. Have a nice day!
This was really good. I needed this. I'm going through the chaos right now. It's painful beyond what is possible to imagine, and really terrifying. It's a shame that there aren't any place for people going through this to meet and connect.
I feel you and know the intensity of the pain. I'm happy this talk provided some solace. Know you're not alone and there is a way through. Let me know if there are related topics you'd like me to cover, and I'll do my best to do so.
this was very instructive, i myself going through kundalini manifestation but it never stops during day, rude times
Thank you. :)
Where are the people we can talk to when experiencing this? I am needing a spiritual psychiatrist or shaman, a being that understands. I’ve been diagnosed with mental illness, personality disorders and hormonal imbalance disorders and I’m aware it’s not my soul, and have moved a lot of the trauma but when I’m episode it’s my hell of Maya. I’m blissful and in grace when medicated which is fine. Does anyone have recommendations kindly.
There are a number of organisations approaching these topics with care. As well as individual psychologists/therapists that are aware of spiritual emergency. Check out:
Spiritual Emergence Network: www.spiritualemergence.org/
Spiritual Crisis Network: spiritualcrisisnetwork.uk/
ISPS-US: isps-us.org/
Certain therapies, such as IFS or Jungian analysis, may also be worth exploring.
I lost my job for experiencing this.
I'm sorry to hear that - the lack of understanding when experiencing these types of extreme states adds another layer of difficulty. I hope you're finding your way 🙏🏻
@@MindThatEgo thank you.
What are the normal senses and what are the 'abnormal' senses?
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to within this talk, but I'd say the "normal" senses are those linked to ordinary perception (sight, hearing, touch, smells, taste).
"Abnormal" isn't an ideal word because senses outside of that domain are natural, we're just severely disconnected from them.
Broadley speaking I'd include spiritual sensitivity, gnosis, psychic sensitivity, energetic sensitivity, imaginal sensing (i.e. sensing and perceiving images from the unconscious) and more.
@@MindThatEgo The opposite of "normal" is "abnormal." Outside of the norm or what is expected.
Normal senses result from specific organs that acquire information about different aspects of reality. Vision captures photons with information about external objects, hearing translates differences in air pressure around us, taste buds distinguish chemicals dissolved in saliva, smell detects chemicals in the air, and touch senses pressure, temperature, or damage to our skin. We can also perceive our vertical orientation concerning gravity (hearing), variations in sugar levels, water, etc., from within our bodies through our biological systems.
But what is the organ, system, or process that produces the information of a "spiritual" sense, and what is the origin of that information?
Perceiving images from the unconscious would not be an example of perceptual sense. Our unconscious is neurological activity, and for us to consciously distinguish that content corresponds to being able to consider it consciously (it stops being unconscious); therefore, it is not the perception of another layer of reality but rather a change in the status of information already acquired previously.
@@EduardoRodriguez-du2vd I'm aware of the definition of abnormal. But what is defined as normal or abnormal depends on context, and my point is that in a materialist culture, what is "abnormal" may be as "normal" as "normal."
I appreciate the points you're making and the detail in how you explain the relationship to the unconscious. It's food for thought.
What I'm talking to is in part apperception, which I would say is a form of perception. In Buddhism, for example, mind is a sense organ alongside those you mention.
Jung in particular spoke of the acquisition of absolute knowledge being through inner perception, not cognition. Many other thinkers allude to the same.
I agree that there's a double-bind in unconscious material becoming conscious the moment it's within the field of perception. There's a difference between perception of newly conscious material and the direct perception of another dimension.
Equally, we have the ability to "make conscious" or engage with the source of that content and more information or data can emerge. Our mind, as a sense organ, is mining the depths, and the filter between conscious/unconscious reduces.
Spiritual or energetic senses are another leap and I'm not clear on where you're coming from, if you're arguing a materialist/biological view or curious or skeptical.
But I would say that if you are trying to apply the paradigm of thinking about "normal" senses to those domains, you'll always come up short, because your model of thinking itself implies a biological/material view.
To give you an example, for many people, the phrase "listen to your heart" makes absolute sense. It's not rational. And yet there appears to be the perception of listening to and receiving insight or information from a deeper pool of wisdom.
Is that purely a metaphor? Or could it be that there are unseen dimensions that mirror our senses in ways that aren't biological or material?