Surviving Cannabis Psychosis -Son and Mother

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
  • My name is Linda W. My son had three episodes of cannabis-induced psychosis (CIP) within two years, beginning in his first semester of college. Kobe was doing fine, playing sports, and was in the sheriff’s cadets program. We all enjoyed traveling and spending time together, and then these THC-induced psychosis episodes hit our family like a thunderbolt. My husband and I had to involuntarily commit him to the hospital three times, including a CA hospital. K had met a man while he was IN ACTIVE PSYCHOSIS who had been in prison, a thief. He convinced K to drive to CA, where he ended up stealing his car with everything he owned in it and leaving him on the side of the road while actively experiencing cannabis-induced psychosis. We, as a family, went through absolute HELL. This was NOT the son we knew. We learned high-THC weed is very addicting and caused this to happen. We worked through it together as a family, and now our son is recovering well. He has been clean from weed for the last year. He is working and planning to return to school in the fall. Recovering from THC takes a long time, but it is possible. He does not have schizophrenia or other mental health conditions. His psychosis was induced by weed and weed alone. I will share my experience, strength, and hope with the Every Brain Matters community because I want to help other families. Please join me on May 5, 2023.
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Комментарии • 95

  • @jencorallo8783
    @jencorallo8783 Год назад +9

    Hello. I cannot thank you enough for sharing this story. I’m seeing my 29 year old spinning into psychosis from marijuana and Delta8. She has been battling auditory hallucinations and psychosis for over 6 years. She has been on many, many medications over the last 6 yrs and to no avail has anything worked. We can get her mood better with the meds but not the auditory hallucinations. She had just graduated from a 2 yr therapy program then we noticed a huge shift in her .We thought we were close to recovery with her with the new medication Caplyta but just found out recently she had been self medicating causing her the break. She spent a week in the hospital and after picking her up yesterday I can tell the marijuana and delta8 are still in her system so now that she’s home I’m terrified she will begin self medicating . My husband and I have been supporting her, encouraging her. We are constantly trying to find something that will help her. I’m at such a loss right now. Why did she sabotage all of her progress? Why is she doing this? My father was an alcoholic and died at age 53. I’m 58 .I work full time. I just don’t know what to do. What medication did your son find helpful? how were you able to talk to him throughout his recovery because my daughter is secretive and combative. We don’t want to push too hard. Thank you great for any information. God bless and I pray this young man stays the course. Good job to his parents.

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +5

      Jen, please send us your contact information at info@everybrainmatters.org and we’ll contact you. We can give to tools a support. This is so hard and we’re praying for your daughter. Everybrainmatters.org

    • @alexdenton6586
      @alexdenton6586 Год назад +3

      Tell her to try the carnivore diet, I'm almost the same age has your daughter and can't find any relief either
      Meat seems to work a little bit

    • @joanomoletski8709
      @joanomoletski8709 3 месяца назад

      😢​@@EveryBrainMatters

  • @denny7403
    @denny7403 Год назад +10

    You can tell he has a huge good heart.. So thankful he found himself. Society has got a new great member. 🙏

    • @izeekyol8710
      @izeekyol8710 2 месяца назад

      Been smoking daily since 14 and done lsd and shrooms more than 100 times yet no psychosis. I'm a lucky human being

  • @savedbygrace4655
    @savedbygrace4655 Год назад +12

    My son experienced a psychotic episode 2 years ago. He was smoking Marijuana heavily but the doctors diagnosed him with bipolar. He had never exhibited añy signs of bipolar disorder. It lasted around 6 weeks. Most traumatic time for him and me. I am convinced it was the Marijuana. He was in complete denial. It took him about 7 mos to feel normal again. I just came home from where he lives due to a second episode. He is still experiencing symptoms. I am pretty sure he is using Marijuana again and I am convinced this episode is caused by the drug. I don't know how to help him. Thank you for sharing your story!

    • @brightpage1020
      @brightpage1020 2 месяца назад +1

      Praying for your son and for you. Got a nephew going through this and learning now how prevalent this really is nowadays. What a nightmare. Just terrifying. Feel your pain and holding hope for you and with you for our young men.

    • @brightpage1020
      @brightpage1020 2 месяца назад

      Praying for your son and for you. Got a nephew going through this and learning now how prevalent this really is nowadays. What a nightmare. Just terrifying. Feel your pain and holding hope for you and with you for our young men.

    • @hemangipandit1122
      @hemangipandit1122 20 дней назад +1

      Please take him to the ER or to you family doctor they will help him out

    • @brightpage1020
      @brightpage1020 20 дней назад

      @@hemangipandit1122 we took ours to 4 rehabs… he’s still in & out but spoke with a couple friends and cousins who work in rehab. They say 40% of their intake now is literally weed psychosis - because the potency of the drug has developed since it’s become legal to 93% whereas 20 years ago it maxed out at 50-70% potency. Apparently the vape pens it’s smoked through now package the delivery with a punch. Especially to bipolar males. It comes with psychosis. We are meeting more and more families this is happening to who never showed any sign of bipolar until this level of weed hit their brains. It’s terrifying. And we are not alone.

  • @HectorRomero-wo1wm
    @HectorRomero-wo1wm Год назад +9

    Amazing young man! Thank you for sharing.

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад +4

    This was very special thank you both mom and son. I have experienced pretty much an identical experience ❤

  • @beth9847
    @beth9847 Год назад +3

    Thank you to Aubree, Kobe, and Linda. We used this video as part of a lead up to an intervention for our son. We know your story impacted our son deep down, even though he denied he could relate to Kobe at first. Our son became manic and delusional after years of marijuana dependency and abuse during his teen and young adult years. He is beginning to admit there might be some issues with high potency THC products. Again thank you!

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +1

      We are so glad he is starting to accept marijuana is harming him.

    • @eparsells
      @eparsells Год назад

      Did you find a place to get him help and is it working?

    • @beth9847
      @beth9847 Год назад

      Yes we did and it is working.

    • @eparsells
      @eparsells 11 месяцев назад +1

      I looked up The edge in California it doesn’t seem to be the right place can you pls send me the # or a contact to the edge pls.

    • @atrajonson8644
      @atrajonson8644 10 месяцев назад

      I would appreciate the info as well

  • @jennifermarshall3852
    @jennifermarshall3852 Год назад +1

    Thank you for sharing. Trying to convince my 19 year old daughter to seek effective treatment for CIP
    She started smoking last fall
    By march her thoughts became distorted and paranoid.
    By June she had very intense psychotic symptoms and asked to be hospitalized. We placed her in treatment for 30 days and she came home worse than when she left.

    • @maxaffe3195
      @maxaffe3195 7 месяцев назад

      yeah the psych wards are horrible

    • @AnnaMP11
      @AnnaMP11 5 месяцев назад

      I’m sorry you and your daughter went through this. How is she doing today?

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад

    It was the hardest thing I went through in my life! We went through! Thank you, it took a lot of strength and education

  • @bokaiuva
    @bokaiuva 8 месяцев назад +3

    I feel very confused. I experienced psychosis after heavy cannabis smoking but i was diagnosed with bipolar disorder type 1 at the hospital. How can they know the difference? As afraid as I am to confront my psychiatrist, I’ll be asking her why I was not diagnosed with cannabis induced psychosis instead. I wonder if I am alone on this. I no longer smoke and I would like to be medication-free!

    • @maxaffe3195
      @maxaffe3195 7 месяцев назад

      they cannot know the difference. all these psych diagnoses are symptom oriented non-etiological descriptions

  • @hollehpazouki7623
    @hollehpazouki7623 Год назад +6

    I feel the mother's pain.

    • @maxaffe3195
      @maxaffe3195 7 месяцев назад

      i have idiopathic schizo. i cannot hate these people enough. this is all so fine. it usually all goes well after some time because it is drug induced. people pretend this is the end of the world but it does go away. the really hard conditions like schizophrenia never go away.

  • @Noahwillwalk
    @Noahwillwalk Год назад +1

    For me, I would get more easily excited or offended, and I had a hard time changing thoughts. I do remember thinking I was more righteous than others. I remember my psychosis on Halloween, I had a feeling something horrible would happen, so I stood staring out the window watching for about an hour or 2, sitting with my baseball bat ready. My behavior was very paranoid and internalized.
    This strange behavior made sense at the time. I was bullied a lot, but after smoking everyday, I actually hissed like a cat sometimes. I think I did that to a person once to show them I was unstable enough to do anything so they would be weary about bothering me.
    I would take everything personally and critically. People not saying hi to me on the street after I put everything I could muster to greet them would mess up parts of my day. Self harm was an huge issue at that time.
    After about a 7 year cycle, I kicked it recently. I can have money and still make the choice to not buy weed. I smashed all my pipes.
    My very last psychosis was mild but very disarming. I was feeling intense shame over a tattoo I had, and had an interview a day after. I was thinking they would make fun of me for it, so I decided to not show up. I had the tattoo for 4 years. I felt trapped in shame and guilt until I feel asleep.
    I dont know if that counts as psychosis, but the emotional pain was intense and memorable.

  • @davidgroenewegen3901
    @davidgroenewegen3901 4 месяца назад +1

    I am now 17 years drug free now. I am 42 now and I do not smoke or drink any more :D

  • @Foreverzen88
    @Foreverzen88 10 месяцев назад +2

    I pray for everyone.

  • @DanielLy1200
    @DanielLy1200 10 месяцев назад +1

    "It's the weed! It's the weed! It's the weed!" These are the words that need to be shouted to the medical industry for sure. I was stuck in denial for 8 years, in and out of mental hospitals, all the time thinking it was Adderall, or lack of sleep, or anything else but the weed! I recognize those other things exacerbate the psychosis, but the weed is the primary drug that causes acute psychosis and I am so thankful that I finally realize it. I could have died so many times in the last 8 years.

    • @thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529
      @thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529 7 месяцев назад

      How the hell is weed more dangerous than actual amphetamine salts? Do you people actually know what you’re saying?

    • @DanielLy1200
      @DanielLy1200 7 месяцев назад

      @@thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529Amphetamine salts are much more powerful, I agree, but for me, it was the weed combined with Adderall that made break with reality and have full blown psychosis where I was completely out of control doing the most dangerous things.

    • @Zione-ep4c
      @Zione-ep4c 5 месяцев назад

      When did your weed auditory hallucinations stop on second episode psychosis

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад +2

    Pray my son just got back into it after 1 year😢

  • @nikikhan3995
    @nikikhan3995 9 месяцев назад

    Please let us know. How is Cody doing now. We are going through it with our son as well. God bless you and continued healing to Cody.

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  9 месяцев назад +1

      Kobe is doing well but is still recovering. It takes a long time to fully recover.

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing. My son had the same experience identical.

  • @Foreverzen88
    @Foreverzen88 9 месяцев назад

    Right now I’m going through that, and am feeling very sick of my stomach because my son is using that junk. People kept telling he was too much of a good kid and that he needed to explore. Now I’m suffering the consequences. I’m not sure what his outcome will be.

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  9 месяцев назад +1

      We are sending you love and support. Here is a list of our family recovery resources. everybrainmatters.org/cannabis-harms-support-recovery-families/

    • @Foreverzen88
      @Foreverzen88 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@EveryBrainMatters thank you so much.

  • @unraveledultimatefate
    @unraveledultimatefate 11 месяцев назад +1

    Also given Canada's regulatory approach, where the legalization of substances including psilocybin mushrooms and marijuana has revealed more cons than pros, it seems unlikely the current situation will remain unchanged. From my perspective, Canada may become the first country to reverse legalization, ironically having once been a model for progressive drug laws. Initially anticipated to be among the first to legalize in 2002, it may now lead in the opposite direction by being the first to retract those laws.

  • @beth9847
    @beth9847 Год назад +1

    Question: can the family share what kind of treatment they found to be the most helpful/impactful for long term recovery? I see that many loved ones relapse even after a year or so of residential treatment, which is shocking .

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +1

      Here’s is a list of our resources, under the treatment options picture there is a a program called Life Skills. everybrainmatters.org/support-advisory-committee/

    • @beth9847
      @beth9847 Год назад +1

      @@EveryBrainMatters Excellent, we just got our son admitted there early this week. We are praying he recovers.

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +1

      @@beth9847 we are praying for him too! Thank you for sharing this great news! Much much move to you and your family.

  • @lptherapygroup6591
    @lptherapygroup6591 Год назад +1

    Drugs and medication can bring out the already psychosis within a person. It would develop sooner later eventually.

    • @SKY_DWELLER333
      @SKY_DWELLER333 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah this is the standard response from weed advocates. The truth is the there are no indicators that this is how the connection works at all. There's no question there's a link between cannabis use and psychosis and you're right in so far as science is still working out the connection, but evidence is beginning to suggest that cannabis can cause these kinds of symptoms not just necessarily even in people that have a family history of mental illness but for people who seem to have a genetic predisposition to some of the more negative side effects of cannabis. Which is a completely different thing. The problem is, that since there is more than one extenuating circumstance that can lead to cannabis induce psychosis, you might not know you're predisposed to it until you're sanity is absolutely shattered, Unless you are fortunate enough to not only get the warning signs, but to heed them as well. I promise you, there were absolutely no other indicators that I would've experienced cannabis induced psychosis, much less any sort of psychotic break generally until I started smoking cannabis and would experience it multiple times. Thankfully it just got to the point where the episodes would end (for the most part anyway,) after the THC had left my system but the problem is, if you think it's just the weed and that it go away over time, there's a higher likelihood that you'll continue to expose your brain and mind to these psychotic states thus allowing these shorter term experiences to become kindling for more long-term and persistent psychological problems that stick around even after the THC has left your system.

  • @reginar2421
    @reginar2421 5 месяцев назад

    How many months kobe second episode auditory hallucinations lasts

  • @mariadelahurtado-brown2283
    @mariadelahurtado-brown2283 Год назад +6

    We went through the same thing !

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +1

      Will you please contact us at info@everybrainmatters.org? We hope everyone is ok?

    • @hollehpazouki7623
      @hollehpazouki7623 Год назад

      Me too:((

    • @mariadelahurtado-brown2283
      @mariadelahurtado-brown2283 Год назад +1

      @@EveryBrainMatters everything is great. He’s been without cannabis for a long time now, back at school and finishing up his degree.

    • @mariadelahurtado-brown2283
      @mariadelahurtado-brown2283 Год назад

      @@hollehpazouki7623 hope everything is good now.

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +1

      @@mariadelahurtado-brown2283 that’s sooo awesome! We would love to share you story to bring hope to other families. Please contact us at info@everybrainmatters.org.

  • @Zione-ep4c
    @Zione-ep4c 8 месяцев назад

    How many months its takes to fully recover from second episode weed pshycosis ms linda

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад

    Thank you!!

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад

    My son still does not believe it

  • @jenmennie6869
    @jenmennie6869 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you

  • @reginar2421
    @reginar2421 7 месяцев назад

    How many months kobe experienced second episode psychosis

  • @loriboo651
    @loriboo651 Год назад +1

    I would love to share

  • @kewlenjo219
    @kewlenjo219 Год назад +2

    At what point does it go from CIPD to schizophrenia? I understand weed can induce schizophrenia? But how long do they have to be off the weed to know? Or, is it just CIPD where the psychosis is on-going because they refuse treatment? Does psychosis go away, if left untreated, over time if the weed is stopped? Can weed induce bipolar and how can you know if it is CIPD or one of the others? My son was fine until he smoked weed. He did this after a break up for curiosity and the break up. Then he used more and more and daily. He started nicotine to try to taper off. He's been off weed, so far as I can tell, at least 2 months. But, his delusions seem pretty consistent, he gets verbally aggressive and threatening, contemptuous, disrespectful, isolates, can drive and socialize but has paranoia over weight gain and food, takes showers and can talk coherently but talks to himself at times, sleeps and does eat and can cook but won't work. He is worse when he first wakes up. He finds double meaning in words, colors, hand movement, certain pictures are triggers. Sometimes he does chores, he can remember lists of things to get from the store but he is fixated on the idea the government can wirelessly brain hack people and even shows me videos of people talking about that, that the world is a simulation etc. OK so that can just be out there but real stuff but he also thinks I am some villain on the astral and deserves to die...he doesn't kill me, he says, because he doesn't have proof which would require a brain scanning device. It sounds schizophrenic but he doesn't do word salads and such. He's an adult and refuses to get a doctor to look at him. He tried going to the ER once and was sent to a mental facility for 5 days where he saw a therapist all of 30 minutes. They never talked with family or set up after care. They gave him a presciption and told him to do group teletherapy. Cops (CIT) do nothing to bring him in because he can tell them what day it is and is calm when they come. Most places require a doctor evaluation and referral (like West Pine in Colorado) but he won't see a doctor. I have no idea what to do. If you don't have money, most people say evict him. I wish I could find a therapist who understands CIPD and psychosis and CBT or a place that accepts Medicaid and can handle this and help but I have no idea where to go. Your site and Johnny's Ambassadors have helped me a lot.

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад +2

      I’m so sorry your son is suffering. Would you be willing to send us an email at info@everybrainmatters.org ? So we can share some resources with you?

    • @eparsells
      @eparsells Год назад +1

      I can relate to this 100% and trying to find help is impossible. I don’t even have words to explain this to people so jst hearing your experience is so helpful. It’s destroying our family, me an my husband are ready to get divorced and I have a toddler who it’s effecting and a teenage daughter who gets anxiety over all of it. There doesn’t seem to be any help for this out there.

    • @beth9847
      @beth9847 Год назад +1

      @@eparsellsI’m so sorry. This is extremely traumatic for all involved. This group (EBM) has resources that can help you. Hopefully you can reach out to them directly for support. Is there any way I can contact you as well? I can share with you what we did to help our son. ❤

  • @luckyandblessed
    @luckyandblessed Год назад

    33:33 What worked to treat the son? Looking for help for friend, with weed psychosis.. this is a real issue ...

    • @lindawolfe6647
      @lindawolfe6647 Год назад +4

      Hi. Thank you This is Linda. ( the Mom). What Kobe needed was definitely the hospital and medication. That seemed to be the only thing that worked for us to get him to a baseline so he could make rational decisions. Then after he was somewhat stable. We All as a family then worked together with a counselor/life coach and set up our boundaries. It took time after that. But he admitted he could not smoke weed again

  • @lynneann9166
    @lynneann9166 Год назад +1

    Is there a difference between shatter and a joint filled with weed?

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Год назад

      Shatter is high concentrated THC ,and it can look like a hard wax.

    • @lindawolfe6647
      @lindawolfe6647 Год назад

      Yes we should talk.

    • @Zione-ep4c
      @Zione-ep4c 7 месяцев назад

      How many months Kobe stayed in second episode weed psychosis

  • @unraveledultimatefate
    @unraveledultimatefate 11 месяцев назад

    Given the increasing incidents involving individuals previously not identified with mental health issues, it seems increasingly probable that the legality of these substances, including alcohol, may be reversed. The substantial tax revenues collected from their sale might then be redirected to combat their black market, aiming to reinforce laws and regulations to curtail illegal trade effectively. This approach suggests a shift towards stricter control and a recognition of the broader implications of substance use on public health and safety, information about the harms caused by drugs will be sealed and erased to prevent scaring people about the extent of harm these substances have caused.

  • @wesheart
    @wesheart Год назад

    Is Kobe on any psychiatric medications now?

    • @lindawolfe6647
      @lindawolfe6647 Год назад +2

      No. But he was for about 8 months after the hospital

    • @Zione-ep4c
      @Zione-ep4c 7 месяцев назад

      How many months he stayed in hospital for second episode psychosis

  • @RaviRegina
    @RaviRegina Месяц назад

    Your son second episode cannabis psychosis duration

    • @EveryBrainMatters
      @EveryBrainMatters  Месяц назад

      @@RaviRegina we are so sorry to hear this. We have some family recovery resources at this link. everybrainmatters.org/cannabis-harms-support-recovery-families/
      Please reach out to us at any time at info@everybrainmatters.org

  • @brightpage1020
    @brightpage1020 2 месяца назад

    Whoa dude went to CHOP?!? Uh…

  • @eparsells
    @eparsells Год назад

    What did they give him to come out of the psychosis?

    • @lindawolfe6647
      @lindawolfe6647 Год назад

      Lithium, and another one for agitation I forget the name of it. It was very imperative that he took medication for just a while to stabilize. He no longer needs them now, but they helped him at the time..

    • @eparsells
      @eparsells 11 месяцев назад +1

      Linda can you pls give me the name and contact of the rehab your son went to pls? I am desperate to find a good place immediately pls

    • @eparsells
      @eparsells 11 месяцев назад

      I think you said The Edge in Cali? I have been speaking to them, pls confirm

  • @CaryRothar
    @CaryRothar 4 месяца назад

    This mad funny he thinks like me

  • @tinkletink1403
    @tinkletink1403 9 месяцев назад

    i'd say it was the stresses of life that was the main cause

    • @lindawolfe6647
      @lindawolfe6647 9 месяцев назад +2

      Nope. It was way more than the stresses of life. It was weed. And weed alone.

    • @tinkletink1403
      @tinkletink1403 9 месяцев назад

      reefer madness? @@lindawolfe6647

    • @tinkletink1403
      @tinkletink1403 9 месяцев назад

      why isn’t it affecting more people that use cannabis? @@lindawolfe6647

  • @lynneann9166
    @lynneann9166 Год назад +1

    What type of weed did Colby use?

  • @scottaddams4259
    @scottaddams4259 21 день назад

    😂