@@BatteryLife The slider buttons have infrared LEDs and infrared receivers in them (motion detectors, basically) to detect hand gestures in front of the screen. Maybe lights interfered with these motion detectors. Still, I would prefer illuminated buttons instead of hand gestures...
But how should the car know if you are going on a short trip? How often do you enter "Grocery store, 3 km's drive" into the navigation? ;). And if there was a way for the user to turn the preheating off, everyone would do it to get more range, and then the battery would be constantly cold, not deliver the power it should and accept even less charge.
@@DennisWallman The simpler question is how often do you go on long trips with fast charging stops and need a warm battery. Regarding the performance: Heat the battery when in sport mode only.
at least most of them are software and I hope at the future they will be solved! I agree with the CHARGING SPEED! KW is the best... not km/h or per/m :(
About the charging display: "... and I'm sorry: that's crap!" - Very well said! :D km per hour/minute is OK as an additional info, but not as the only one.
Km /hour is more informative and is the preferred way to compare cars. But on everyday use, as we pay per Kwh, that is the information we need. (that and charging time as that is a factor as well).
@@mikaelpettersson5916 km/hr makes sense from a non-technical user perspective (after all, what most people actually care about is how far they can travel, not what the machine is actually pumping out), but it needs to be accurate, and it needs to be consistent (no changing to km/min when charging quickly, etc). That said, I also agree with others that it should show what the charge rate is - as additional / alternate information, for those that prefer to see it that way, given that kW is - currently - the industry standard. It's fine for VW to think their approach is 'better', but they should include the industry standard option as well (especially as it's just a software display value - it's not like they have to provide extra hardware, etc)
@@logicalChimp totally agree. Tesla started this km chargingspeed displaything, so they are the one to blame. I do not say it is wrong, but i think many more is interested in knowing the speed in absolute value. It should be a setting If they cant display Both. And i think it Will. Vw Will swollow their Pride and make the change (they Will not comment on it)
Lane assist is great on the Autobahn when there is no construction... otherwise it needs to be turned off. A few years ago, I had a few Ford rental cars (Focus, Mondeo) and they had buttons on the steering wheel to disable lane assist, which was very useful to quickly disable the feature when I was going through construction zones. Leaving it on was dangerous! They really should give you the option to program a hot button on the steering wheel to any shortcut you would like. E.g. hold a button to activate/deactivate a feature. And non-illuminated climate and volume controls, completely unacceptable!
Not all lane assists are created equal. The one in my Volvo works really well on highways. Even when it can't track the lanes there is no particular reason to disable it. You just need to do the steering yourself until it can acquire the lane again. The only dangerous thing is to rely on it to the point where you aren't bothering to look.
Looks like FULLY autonomous driving still had a long way to go... like 20 years or so. Currently, I'd only trust an A.I. to do motorway stretches, where traffic is mostly predictable.
That sounds like too many major problems for a production car....maybe for a beta version, but I'll be taking VW off of my list of EVs which I'll be buying this year
I hope VW is taking note, your reviews are very comprehensive, and it would be great PR for you to say after the update - all fixed. I know that MG updated their ZS from a reviewer videos - almost completely word for word.
The answer to many of these complaints, including the one that Mr. Ulbricht said they will not change, in _configurability._ For goodness' sake, this car, and any EV, is a computer on wheels! _Everything_ on the dashboard(s) and many other things should be user-configurable, with preferences tied to user profiles. Again, Tesla is better here, but they don't go far enough, either. Somewhere deep in configuration menus should be a "geek mode" toggle that would enable things from simple changing charging speed from nebulous "km/h" to actual power, to bringing up whole synoptic pages with battery, motor, electronics and coolant temperatures, power used by various components, acceleration, power and regen in actual power units (along with friction brakes application) etc, something like all those data displayed by various OBD II monitoring apps. Majority of "ordinary" users would still use the HMI as it is, and if they stumble into the geek mode it would be easy to get back to the safety of "factory configuration". But driving this car could be so much more fun if we were given an opportunity to see what is it actually doing.
For me a tesla is a software company building cars, and VW is a car company doing software. Up until now EV's were aimed at the "tech" aware people lead by Tesla, VW are trying to aim this at everybody, and not everybody understands KW they just want to know if I charge it for 30 minutes how far can I go, and for that km/h works fine. oh by the way it kills me not knowing more about the state of the battery, thinking about going down the OBD port route...
@@mark.j.wilson I agree. VW at least knows what belongs to buttons and stalks, and what to touch-screens, and their augmented reality HUD is awesome. The only reason I can think of why Tesla does not provide HUD is their pretending that full Level 5 autonomy is around the corner; that, and penny pinching. Still, more configurability, pretty please, Mr. Ulbricht!
@@EinzigfreierName _None_ would be confused by it if you hide it deeply enough. Call it "car internals service mode" or something similarly scary, if you must, or activate by a sequence of button presses or PIN code or whatever. But, let's face it, EVs are practically everywhere still cars for tech savvy, not because "ordinary" drivers wouldn't enjoy them, but simply because we tend to be early adopters. A singla competent GUI programmer could code the useful amount of features in several months. You know, those guys who elsewhere program fart mode. :o) Heck, make it a €1k software-enabled option, and I would buy it immediately (if I had location to charge the car in the first place, that is... :o( )
@@EinzigfreierName Considering how much VAG charges for digital cockpit views in the Audi models, there must be some way for them to both offer the option, while at the same time making a shitload of money while doing it.
They seem to be all minor things fixable via sw updates, except the lighting of the climate/vol. bar. I really hope that VW start improving on updates OTA as the way it is right now it’s way too complicate..
From the comments nobody has a good app but Tesla! 😂 I can also confirm the Kia UVO (U.S. version) app is terrible and hardly works. And, they charge $15/mo 😅 But, I love turning on the heater in winter, when it works.
Hm. I personally wouldn't ever want a car again without lane assist.... it takes some getting used to but it's an amazing feature and for me it makes driving a LOT safer....
@@kayz-art I cannot talk about the quality of the ID.3 lane assist - the one of the e-up (from mobileye) is awfully bad and sometimes dangerous. Only 4.00 km driven, lots of annoying false reactions, and one when it steered me towards a bicyclist I was passing. Perhaps you should sleep more and do not drive overtired.
@@Henning_Rech ? I never drive while being tired. I however do appreciate a car that thinks along. So far the lane assist of the Id.3 is absolutely flawless.
Well said about lane assist. Nearly all my driving is on small Irish county roads, I need to be able to switch it off by default, I can on our new Zoe 135 GT with a button near the steering wheel. I think lane assist is dangerous & a pedestrian will be killed soon!
@@AlanTov That's exactly what I've seen with a test drive ID3 from my dealer. Also a 1st Edition. What car do you have? You get used in the end, but at first... you shit your pants once or twice. I have an ID3 coming now for me, I hope it's either fixed or I'll get used quickly.
when you go to the gas station you see how many liters you get, not kms, 'cause kms depends on how you drive. You're right: getting km/h when charging is crap.
Like all good things in life...it'll get better with age! Well I hope so anyway. Thank you for doing this very honest and frank review for us. Take care and don't let the Bug Bite, ok!
In winter laneassist is a pain in the b-tt.Sometimes it think the snow is lines and suddenly warns and tries to steer the car right.I always keep it off
I see many complaints about lane assist, yet for me it's working absolutely flawless. Even now with heavy snow everywhere.... I'm truly impressed by how accurate it really is.
Watching your back catalogue as we bought a used ID.3 1st 3 weeks ago. We had a terrible 12v battery drain causing expensive vamp drain on the main battery but at the moment a replacement 12v battery under warranty seems to have sorted this. Time will tell. The car screen shows that it is currently on version 2.3 software but VW insist that it is actually on 2.4. If the car cannot even show the correct software version I am uneasy about the quality of the software. I worked in IT at all levels from developer to programme manager over 25 years and such a simple error shows a significant lack of attention to detail. Worrying. My biggest bugbears at the moment are: 1: why does the radio come on every time we start the car and why is it always on a station that we have not chosen? 2: Why is it such a tedious and convoluted process to sign up to WeConnect for updates? The car should just be connected from day one, end of. Don't make life difficult for the customer. 3: What is that ridiculous captive nut sticking out for in the underfloor compartment of the boot? One day I will catch that and no doubt cut myself. Why VW, just why? 4: Why does it take so long for the rear view to cancel from the infotainment screen after reversing and as we are waiting to pull away or even actually moving? 5: Why can't I see or have a service and maintenance history? It's my car, I paid hard-earned cash to buy it outright. Don't get me wrong, we are very happy overall with the car but small annoyances become long-term issues. VW has been too disrespectful of it's customers in my opinion.
I bought the id3 a month ago and it has the same problems. My version is not a 1st so I didn't get any discount on leasing but the same problems persist. Indeed I have found others. Now it is at the workshop for a second update. I have also a VW Polo 2018 and a T-Roc 2019 and and neither has ever experienced any problems.
3. it also disconnects BT connection, i.e. if you just got shortly out of the car, many times it does not reconnect to the phone and continue playing music. (Ok, maybe not an issue if you always use the USB cable)
WeConnect app is crap, very slow and no improvement in sight. Next car MUST be connected through a proper fast app. It's freakin' 2021. I have a smart plug extender from China that is faster, was 25 euro. Looks like the VW approach is similar to Nokia, if you know what I mean...
I would even like the We Connect ID app to at least get to the same position as the CarNet app on the eGolf. Scheduled charging, remote lock, flash lights, sound horn, get the data off (ready for my spreadsheet data analysis!). But don't stop there - add remote mirror heater, remote rear screen heater, remote heated steering wheel, etc.
Lane assit should not alter your insurance as your are responsible not the car. You should be monitoring your driving not the car. Is there not an overide setting
Hello,thanks for this video. Iam feel the same about the lane assist and first pressing proces before driving.same with the charging and kw/h info.but the brakes are All fine on me ID3.super will be to have a possibility to reduce traction control,this i dont like a LOT Good luck
Well, that's about all of my grievances with my ID.3 covered as well. Sadly, the issues with the Infotainment software haven't improved as of mid/late April 2021. Hopefully, VW will use the OTA update facilities very soon, because its pretty damn crappy in an otherwise really nice car.
Update: As of early June 2021, nothing has improved from the software. The app is almost hopeless. It never connects to the car 30 yards away, from my bedroom window in direct line of sight [comes up with error]. Although it knows the exact state of charge, even after parking the car for an entire weekend. Once again, this video is entirely accurate. So many flaws in an otherwise nice car.
Well Chris, I would love to say that the Peugeot e-2008 was better, but it also has it flaws. Like a non functional smartphone app, steering assistant which cuts out mid corner without any warning. Appalling range in winter, a very slow infotainment system. Somehow you would think after all these years of experience with creating ice cars, they still mess up the eV models.
It seems to be an issue with status quo automakers. I'd guess it's because they have to outsource most of the development on a contract basis so they will know their exact costs. Tesla's vertical integration is so far ahead I think it's going to make heads spin in the industry. Anyway, I hope VW gives it due diligence because Tesla BADLY needs the competition.
Hello, the same anoying preset Lane assist with Hyundai Kona EV, each time you start the car. Due too narrow roads, middle road positioned sewerage, I have to turn off the spec.
The obvious question has to be why did you buy it? There is much to be said regarding leasing a car of the type you intend to buy if you aren't 100% sure. There are leasing options out there now which allow you to lease on a monthly contract.....
@@BatteryLife Im already on the list for a Model 3 SP. After the price cut it will cost me about 34k after incentives. Thats a very good price for what you actually get ;) This will be my first electric car... ill keep you updated how I like it. A good friend of mine got his Model 3 Performance a month ago and let me tell you it is a real blast to drive. Not comparable to anything I have sat in till that day and being from Munich I have been in several BMW M Models. 👍🏽 Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass du auch Deutscher bist. Habe die Antwort jetzt trotzdem mal vorsichtshalber auf Englisch geschrieben, da das ja auch deine bevorzugte Sprache auf deinem Kanal ist. Schöne Grüße aus München 👍🏽
@@kevinschauwaers5585 I think you misunderstood what I wrote, please read again :) I wrote that I am getting a Model 3 SP (Standard Plus) wich is 39.990€ after the price cut in Germany and we get 6.000€ in government incentives. So it will cost me around 34k I was just referring to a good friend of mine who has a Model 3 Performance wich is a blast to drive :) Have a nice day Kevin and stay safe 👍🏽
What is amazing is he still likes the car despite all the problems. Seems like VW rushed this to market without fixing all the bugs first. Who buys these things?
Some of that annoying things you mentioned I have also in my 2019 VW Polo: to 2) Like in your id3 the transmission mode is reset to D very time I start the car, even when the drive mode is in Eco. So every setting is set to eco, but not the transmission. I don't ordered Lane assist, but the Start-Stop-Automatic also resets. Fortuntatelly in my car that is still a physical button. Also the climate controls ar phyiscal so the computer can't reset it. to 6) The app only has 2 features that I can use: Vehicle States and Navigation. The state only worked once, the navigation stuff does work most of the time.
This is a must which a manufacturer has to provide. The car has to start like you get it from the dealer. A German think from the previous Era. Don't think they should continue this with software. Would be terrible user experience
Great job Chris really hope VW will watch this. The bizarre feature that the car shuts down when you your behind leaves the seat is not just annoying its bordering on dangerous. Some of us have kids and dogs. If you leave your seat the heat instantly stops working. The app to precondition is very unreliable. YES there is a feature to climitize directly but it does not work. Like never. So in a cold country your kids or animals in a driverless parked car will be cold or warm. Is this OK VW? My granddad's VW had no problems with this in the sixties. A Trabant in DDR would probably solve this task. You market this car as a family car. So VW please explain. To save juice is nice but to subject kids and animals to mother nature's whims. Over to you VW!
The heat does not stop while driving! Preheating works for me 90% of the time. For the case if Kids and Dogs parking, you should use. Keep climate on! Works perfect.
@@BatteryLife I wish it did I tried. It does not. Scheduling precond no can do. Lets hope the big update will solve this. VW should just have kept the on and off button and none of this would be an issue. Reputation wise for VW releasing an unfinished product albeit w discounts feels dodgy.
That simply explains why Toyota haven’t offered yet a full ev car, they will never release something that is not ready yet and up to their standards, which are highest of all car makers 👍
had an eGolf for over 2 years now. I dont really trust VW to fix software bugs. I still have a tough time preheating the car with the phone app. This is an old car by now, should have it fixed. I realize that the ID line is the main focus but they could have fixed the software bugs years ago for eGolf. Next year I am moving to Tesla.
This really isn't my experience at all. I have lane assist active all the time and so far it has worked absolutely flawless. Not a single mistake.... I'm really impressed about its accuracy.
My daily commute is mostly via country lanes, and Lane Assist is a bit of a joke under those circumstances. Oddly, it turns off sometimes then pops back on when circumstances haven't really improved for it.
Here's a trick for you, open the door push the brake pedal without sitting, the car will wake up and if you don't close the door while opening the garage or gate in my case you don't have to sit thru another restart.
after driving around in a Golf mk8 for 7 months now. While I am used to it, making the dash so button-less was a mistake ( it is similar in interface with the ID.3, look it up if you are interested). While it is not that hard to use for me now, just a few more buttons for seat heating and fan speed would have been so much better. Also... WHY is the infotainment SO SLOW at the start. It feels like a PC from 15 years ago, when they had crazy "warm up" periods.
Yes I hope that this obsession with touch buttons and surfaces is gone in the next generation of cars. I get it for infotainment, but everything you need while driving should be physical!
@@manuelg8050 i am fine with the sliders btw. But the amount of buttons is too low. It doesn't need to become like a Kia or BMW with too many buttons, but it is just a bit silly now.
+1 I simply hate those capacitive non-highlighted volume and heating sliders. I wonder how this stupid idea went through all stages of Product development. It should be the same in the Golf 8. 2. Another immensely annoying thing is voice Control which I have disabled immediately. It is simply not working. 3. Unreliable Maps. I bet the maps are fine in Germany but in Sweden the speed limit set on the maps is just random. I had to disable all assists just to be able to drive normally. Other than that, car is great
1. I am ok with the butrons. I just want to see them at all time. 2. Voice control does never work very well. And I find it weird to use it if there is someone else with you in the car. 3. I never used the automatic speed adjustment. Why would I drive the exact speed limit? And of course it cannot work perfect. Things change and so on. I can change the speed by myself anyway. Not hatd to do.
The app doesn't work for the GTE either... unreliable piece of junk... and it was that experience with VW software that stops me considering an ID3 (at least, not for a couple more years, etc)
It's funny how different things matter to different people. Agree about lane assist, most annoying although I believe it's not VW's choice but legislation? The other things you highlight don't bother me so much (I've had my id3 for three months but do far less driving than you) My previous car, the BMW i3, is inferior in some ways (stability and interior room for instance) but trumps the id3 with it's regen braking (which gives you genuine 1 pedal driving) and the idrive which I really miss (The 'iPad' controls on the VW feel like they've been designed by a fourteen year old tech wizard who's never driven a car). The other thing that annoys me is that there is no visible trip meter (unless of course I've missed something which is quite possible.)
So as there is a shortage of semi conductor chips for the car industry does that mean we can get 6 months free lease if we take delivery of the car without a computer?
I would love to add others three dislikes as 10 things sounds better like 7. James Bond has 007 and my lucky number is 7 😂😂😂 Of course, it’s just joke, great video as usually Chris, keep it doing.
The car immediately turning off just because you step out for a second is really annoying. I had a difficult time syncing my BMW i3 to my garage door opener because the car would turn off when I got out to go push the learn button on the garage door opener. Luckily, my i3 has a sunroof, so I was able to stand on my seat and reach through the sunroof. Why can't they program the cars to just hold the brake in this situation, and maybe turn off after 5 minutes?
Hopefully, VW now understands what a challenge it is to create good software. Microsoft for instance thought for years it could somehow muddle through with Windows Phone. Either you really focus on it, or you lose. The brake issue is even more disconcerting. A German car maker should know that sportiness is all about linearity. Acceleration should be smooth, but equally, a car must provide consistent feedback when you are braking if you want to drive fast elegantly.
Really good video Chris. My Golf R is 3 years old and time to change. Thinking maybe electric, maybe Elon... just can’t make up my mind. VW haven’t been very persuasive either. Videos like yours help :-)
Everything in the ID3's interior was designed separately by guys at their laptops showing their little piece of the design to their boss, trying to impress their boss. None of these f---ers put together all the pieces to try to use it a few days and see how infuriating and anti-consumer it is. If only the interior experience was as good as the exterior is designed.
100% agree on that breaking issue. I nearly got panic at an intersection just lately. As well I agree on the kW vs km/min issue: we need the kW and kWh/100km and so on display, everything else is crap. I wonder what Mr. Ulbrich thinks of his yearly statement from his energy provider that states the used electrical energy in kWh! Everybody that gets one of these statements - and I assume most of us do - are familiar with kWh and kW (hair dryer, oven, electrical heater...) so why the heck km/min as an electrical energy measure??? Please VW: get this corrected!
The thing is you already see the estimated time till charge limit and the current range in km the car claims to have. Km/h is just too confusing because it will always be different values between charges and even within a charge so you cannot really calculate when you will be at a specific km range.
I drove the ID3 a couple of times and I really like the design and how it looks. I own a Kia eSoul since almost a year and I am really surprised that none of the complaints you’ve happen in my car. #1, I haven’t had any single reliability issue. Of course the car SW is not as ambitious as on ID3 and it doesn’t have OTA but is extremely reliable. #2, I think some problems are legal requirements so it happens on any car (like safety features always on) but climate and driving mode are always as I left it. #3 well that’s the problem of having a seamless keyless system. #4The UVO app doesn’t look as nice a the ID3 but what it matter the most it might have failed 5 out of 100 times but nothing to really complain about it. #5 take it or leave it, it’s been a controversial decision what Vw did. #6 regen works on cold weather as usual (sometimes less efficiently) but I does even at 100% SOC and the pedal feel is more than OK #7 I still don’t understand why they can’t show the standard kW when charging, it seems like German automakers want to make unique things (like BMW showing battery size in Amps/h) I don’t think this is sth to like about eSoul since it is a standard thing on 99% of EVs... polestar 2 and Volvo xc40 don’t have this and it’s crap.. I agree But the ID3 looks nice and some of the issues will be fixed eventually with updates, right?
I don’t get why they don’t put the kW charging rate above the km/h (or km/minute) text. It would actually look very nice and symmetrical, just like the battery SoC is displayed on the bottom right side of the screen.
The volume thing truly baffles me. They’ve put a touch sensitive volume strip BELOW A TOUCH SENSITIVE SCREEN. And to add insult to injury, when you use the touch strip, it shows a volume control on the screen right above it, exactly as long as the strip. And the touch strip is not illuminated. That’s a mind-boggling level of weirdness and redundancy. Bizarro touch controls, the dumb shifter knob occluded by the steering wheel, and lack of AWD at the price point are the 3 chief reasons stopping me from ordering an ID.4. Okay, those three and the crap sound system.
My number one nuisance of this car: if I walk close to the car it unlocks. Automatically. Brilliant!! However, if I walk away from the car it doesn't lock automatically. You need to press the handle for that.... Why on earth did Volkswagen think that would be practical?? Automatic unlocking and only manual locking of the car.... it has happened to me sooo many times the car remained unlocked. I'll make sure never to leave anything of any value in there, because this really is an issue for me.
I was surprised in the beginning too. But now I prefer it. So many times I walk away from a Zoe not paying attention and then I had to lock again to be sure.
@@BatteryLife I don't understand? My previous car did lock automatically when I left it. It's very simple technology, so it never failed me. My ID.3 however has remained unlocked overnight dozens of times already... it's terribly impractical! If there's one thing I could change about the car (besides the obvious software bugs) this would be it.
regarding the interior, VW should have a look into the mokka-e. it looks much nicer with integrated screens and real buttons. that is my main critique beside the 160km/h limit. of course for some the 160 km/h is ok, but i demand at least 180 km/h. from the outside, especially the front, i like the id3 a lot. lets see what seat/cupra can do
Charging should show both power input (kW) and e.g. range gain per minute or hour (km/h) - that's not a problem from the software point of view. Just wondering how VW will manage the user feedback? BTW I'll pick up ID3 Pro Performance in April (hopefully) and would like to share the experience. Driving EV in Poland will be challenging ;)
Good stuff. I agree with all. How could they not make those important buttons illuminated - it's a mistery. It is SO obvious. If I can chip in from my experience - seats do not have good lower back support. For me it's absolutely crucial, as it showed up. I get a back pain already after an hour of driving. Had to buy a cushion. Adjusted back support should be there in a car for 30 k Euros+... And in general - the car feels CHEAP. Had an e-Golf before. The car was finished almost like a premium brand. This one - almost like a Kia from the 90's ;-p OK... more issues - the touch sensitive buttons are a big mistake, especially on the steering wheel - never know what is going to happen when I press them. What's wrong with proper buttons?! The ergonomics for tall drivers is not so good - I have the seat almost all the way back and my left elbow lands on a hard plastic edge/corner of the door. Plus - the upper edge of the windscreen is quite low... I think the door is not that well insulated for cold weather (I mean like -10 degrees C, I live in Norway). The visibility forward is greatly reduced by extensive A pillars, quite dangerous. So much lighting inside... but no light in the glove box. No rear air vents for the passangers. No rear speakers even in the 1st Plus version. No height adjusted boot floor (again, only in the expensive versions...). Overall - a very well enginnered car with lots of super annoying quirks and cost cuts. The e-Golf felt like a lot better car - all the mentioned pitfalls were absent... Chris, good job!!! Keep it up!
I totally agree with you when it comes to: 2. Always the question about Online or Offline mode, Error message about Internet Radio not being available, not selecting B-mode automatically if that was used last time, always have to switch of Lane assist. 4. The app with only a few features, never knowing if for example sending an address to the car will be received or not, sometimes it is received several hours later when. In my app it also sometimes show MIN instead of a temperature. 5. What were they thinking at VW when they decided to not have temp and volume slides illuminated? 1, 3, 6 & 7 has not bothered me that much yet, haven't done any long trips yet and have not used a DC-charger so far. But still I really like the car, if it get some descent sw-updates I think it can be really good!
It has taken VW over a year to solve the software problems, and even now no one knows if the software will be 100% working. What is also clear is the VW dealers are also on a big learning curve. Not unusual, and these days most car dealers ( not just VW) have only one technical person to fix the issues.
I realized today that the request "please show kW instead of km/h" is too narrow and doesn't touch the real issue. I get it that one of the targets for the VW MEB platform is to be "easy for ICE drivers to switch over", by making many predetermined choices about the EV car, so that an inexperienced ICE driver doesn't have to worry about that. But what after one, two, 5 or even 10 years?? The *real problem* is that the now experienced EV driver is still treated by the SW as the inexperienced ICE driver, because the SW doesn't offer *any* choices! What I expect from VW to appear in the MEB SW, sometime after ME 2.1, are either (a) an "ask always" setting, i.e. every time it makes an EV choice for me I get the option to cancel/override it, or (b) a menu that list all the automatic choices built into the SW and let's me choose which ones to disable once I have gathered enough experience to make my own choice I guess you would call that "nerd mode".
Not an oversight. The IR sensors are in there for the praximity sensor and gesture control. Those do not work well when there is illumination. That is what I was told...
@@BatteryLife Oh... Interesting. 😅 They should definitely find a way around that for the next iteration though 😃 Does anybody actually use the gesture control? Just seems like a showroom gimmick to me 🤔
If VW are so convinced about showing charging in km/h, why don't they implement something similar in their ICE cars? (I know you're usually looking at the pump - just illustrating how mad it's is as a concept. Range added is massively dependent on conditions and how you drive - just like with ICE vehicles.
The braking issue seems to be a bit more serious than the others complaints. It sounds like it is just doing regen braking when it's clearly time to go mechanical. You have me thinking about trying an emergency stop in my wife's Chevy Bolt. I do try to brake early and lightly in my plugin hybrid Hyundai Sonata so that I don't go to mechanical but I would like to be confident that I can stop quickly. Of course, there is always the issue of how heavy an EV is as well. Maybe the brakes are undersized on the ID.3 .
Same problem for years on we-connect on the e-Golf. They say their going to fix it. But still most days no contact. So pre-heating the VW way is to try with the app.... the go out to the car turn it on put the seatbelt on behind my back and then let it stay on.
@@BatteryLife In the seven weeks I've got mine I only got the preheating to work once! And I still don't know what magic made it possible. I can't even program any departure times to my car or the app.
Preheating works for me, just set your departure time with the climate set, then it's all good, it doesn't need we connect you can set it up in the car.
Programming Pre-heating in the car works, but remote start it from we connect is spotty at best. VW claims to have we connect and we connect ID on 2 separate server’s.
For the e-Golf I found out that when I sometimes lose contact with the car in the we-connect app I can open the glove-box and remove the SIM-card and re-insert it - then all of a sudden I have contact with the app again.
I really can‘t believe they forgot to illuminate the slider buttons. Annoying.
They did it on purpose, I just don't know why.
@@BatteryLife The slider buttons have infrared LEDs and infrared receivers in them (motion detectors, basically) to detect hand gestures in front of the screen. Maybe lights interfered with these motion detectors. Still, I would prefer illuminated buttons instead of hand gestures...
I agree + 8. Battery heater for short trips should be disabled
But how should the car know if you are going on a short trip? How often do you enter "Grocery store, 3 km's drive" into the navigation? ;). And if there was a way for the user to turn the preheating off, everyone would do it to get more range, and then the battery would be constantly cold, not deliver the power it should and accept even less charge.
@@DennisWallman The simpler question is how often do you go on long trips with fast charging stops and need a warm battery. Regarding the performance: Heat the battery when in sport mode only.
Auf jeden Fall!
I agree regarding all 8 Topics especially topic 8 battery Heating and the App I still have SW 564 a car with Potential but l am Not satisfied
We should get a button in order to preheat the battery. We decide if we will drive sporty, if we want to charge or simply to drive slowly.
at least most of them are software and I hope at the future they will be solved!
I agree with the CHARGING SPEED! KW is the best... not km/h or per/m :(
Trusting VW with software updates over time.. wouldn't hold my breath.
About the charging display: "... and I'm sorry: that's crap!" - Very well said! :D km per hour/minute is OK as an additional info, but not as the only one.
True that!
Spot in! Let user decide. Show Km/hour or kWh or maybe both?
Km /hour is more informative and is the preferred way to compare cars. But on everyday use, as we pay per Kwh, that is the information we need. (that and charging time as that is a factor as well).
@@mikaelpettersson5916 km/hr makes sense from a non-technical user perspective (after all, what most people actually care about is how far they can travel, not what the machine is actually pumping out), but it needs to be accurate, and it needs to be consistent (no changing to km/min when charging quickly, etc).
That said, I also agree with others that it should show what the charge rate is - as additional / alternate information, for those that prefer to see it that way, given that kW is - currently - the industry standard. It's fine for VW to think their approach is 'better', but they should include the industry standard option as well (especially as it's just a software display value - it's not like they have to provide extra hardware, etc)
@@logicalChimp totally agree. Tesla started this km chargingspeed displaything, so they are the one to blame. I do not say it is wrong, but i think many more is interested in knowing the speed in absolute value.
It should be a setting If they cant display Both.
And i think it Will. Vw Will swollow their Pride and make the change (they Will not comment on it)
Lane assist is great on the Autobahn when there is no construction... otherwise it needs to be turned off. A few years ago, I had a few Ford rental cars (Focus, Mondeo) and they had buttons on the steering wheel to disable lane assist, which was very useful to quickly disable the feature when I was going through construction zones. Leaving it on was dangerous! They really should give you the option to program a hot button on the steering wheel to any shortcut you would like. E.g. hold a button to activate/deactivate a feature. And non-illuminated climate and volume controls, completely unacceptable!
Not all lane assists are created equal. The one in my Volvo works really well on highways. Even when it can't track the lanes there is no particular reason to disable it. You just need to do the steering yourself until it can acquire the lane again. The only dangerous thing is to rely on it to the point where you aren't bothering to look.
Looks like FULLY autonomous driving still had a long way to go... like 20 years or so. Currently, I'd only trust an A.I. to do motorway stretches, where traffic is mostly predictable.
@@pHD77 Lazy
That sounds like too many major problems for a production car....maybe for a beta version, but I'll be taking VW off of my list of EVs which I'll be buying this year
It is a beta version, that is what I got 3 months free lease for.
I hope VW is taking note, your reviews are very comprehensive, and it would be great PR for you to say after the update - all fixed.
I know that MG updated their ZS from a reviewer videos - almost completely word for word.
The answer to many of these complaints, including the one that Mr. Ulbricht said they will not change, in _configurability._ For goodness' sake, this car, and any EV, is a computer on wheels! _Everything_ on the dashboard(s) and many other things should be user-configurable, with preferences tied to user profiles. Again, Tesla is better here, but they don't go far enough, either.
Somewhere deep in configuration menus should be a "geek mode" toggle that would enable things from simple changing charging speed from nebulous "km/h" to actual power, to bringing up whole synoptic pages with battery, motor, electronics and coolant temperatures, power used by various components, acceleration, power and regen in actual power units (along with friction brakes application) etc, something like all those data displayed by various OBD II monitoring apps.
Majority of "ordinary" users would still use the HMI as it is, and if they stumble into the geek mode it would be easy to get back to the safety of "factory configuration". But driving this car could be so much more fun if we were given an opportunity to see what is it actually doing.
For me a tesla is a software company building cars, and VW is a car company doing software. Up until now EV's were aimed at the "tech" aware people lead by Tesla, VW are trying to aim this at everybody, and not everybody understands KW they just want to know if I charge it for 30 minutes how far can I go, and for that km/h works fine. oh by the way it kills me not knowing more about the state of the battery, thinking about going down the OBD port route...
@@mark.j.wilson I agree. VW at least knows what belongs to buttons and stalks, and what to touch-screens, and their augmented reality HUD is awesome. The only reason I can think of why Tesla does not provide HUD is their pretending that full Level 5 autonomy is around the corner; that, and penny pinching.
Still, more configurability, pretty please, Mr. Ulbricht!
Tesla shows both kW and km/h when charging, but I 100% agree that they should have a geek mode🤓
@@EinzigfreierName _None_ would be confused by it if you hide it deeply enough. Call it "car internals service mode" or something similarly scary, if you must, or activate by a sequence of button presses or PIN code or whatever.
But, let's face it, EVs are practically everywhere still cars for tech savvy, not because "ordinary" drivers wouldn't enjoy them, but simply because we tend to be early adopters. A singla competent GUI programmer could code the useful amount of features in several months. You know, those guys who elsewhere program fart mode. :o)
Heck, make it a €1k software-enabled option, and I would buy it immediately (if I had location to charge the car in the first place, that is... :o( )
@@EinzigfreierName Considering how much VAG charges for digital cockpit views in the Audi models, there must be some way for them to both offer the option, while at the same time making a shitload of money while doing it.
Good job Chris, another great and honest video from you. Loved it!
Chris, good of you to be critical as we all want VW and EVs to be successful.
They seem to be all minor things fixable via sw updates, except the lighting of the climate/vol. bar. I really hope that VW start improving on updates OTA as the way it is right now it’s way too complicate..
From the comments nobody has a good app but Tesla! 😂 I can also confirm the Kia UVO (U.S. version) app is terrible and hardly works. And, they charge $15/mo 😅 But, I love turning on the heater in winter, when it works.
Also I've noticed some security issues with it 😬
They have to change the lane assist feature being on in your profile. Lane assist is dangerous and not helpful for me. My wife finds it scary.
Hm. I personally wouldn't ever want a car again without lane assist.... it takes some getting used to but it's an amazing feature and for me it makes driving a LOT safer....
@@kayz-art I cannot talk about the quality of the ID.3 lane assist - the one of the e-up (from mobileye) is awfully bad and sometimes dangerous. Only 4.00 km driven, lots of annoying false reactions, and one when it steered me towards a bicyclist I was passing.
Perhaps you should sleep more and do not drive overtired.
@@Henning_Rech ? I never drive while being tired. I however do appreciate a car that thinks along. So far the lane assist of the Id.3 is absolutely flawless.
Well said about lane assist. Nearly all my driving is on small Irish county roads, I need to be able to switch it off by default, I can on our new Zoe 135 GT with a button near the steering wheel. I think lane assist is dangerous & a pedestrian will be killed soon!
Most of that was software issues but the difference between braking a little and little more is pressing a lot harder is a scary problem.
@@AlanTov That's exactly what I've seen with a test drive ID3 from my dealer. Also a 1st Edition. What car do you have? You get used in the end, but at first... you shit your pants once or twice. I have an ID3 coming now for me, I hope it's either fixed or I'll get used quickly.
I thought it might be the disc brakes aren't up to stopping the heavy battery. I experience the same 'I'm not stopping' feeling (ID3 tour)
when you go to the gas station you see how many liters you get, not kms, 'cause kms depends on how you drive. You're right: getting km/h when charging is crap.
Like all good things in life...it'll get better with age!
Well I hope so anyway.
Thank you for doing this very honest and frank review for us.
Take care and don't let the Bug Bite, ok!
I agree with all of your issues, I have them with my ID3. Please VW listen and fix these issues ASAP. Well done Chris.
In winter laneassist is a pain in the b-tt.Sometimes it think the snow is lines and suddenly warns and tries to steer the car right.I always keep it off
I see many complaints about lane assist, yet for me it's working absolutely flawless. Even now with heavy snow everywhere.... I'm truly impressed by how accurate it really is.
You think VW's app is bad. Try Nissan Connect 🤬🤬
Watching your back catalogue as we bought a used ID.3 1st 3 weeks ago. We had a terrible 12v battery drain causing expensive vamp drain on the main battery but at the moment a replacement 12v battery under warranty seems to have sorted this. Time will tell.
The car screen shows that it is currently on version 2.3 software but VW insist that it is actually on 2.4. If the car cannot even show the correct software version I am uneasy about the quality of the software. I worked in IT at all levels from developer to programme manager over 25 years and such a simple error shows a significant lack of attention to detail. Worrying.
My biggest bugbears at the moment are:
1: why does the radio come on every time we start the car and why is it always on a station that we have not chosen?
2: Why is it such a tedious and convoluted process to sign up to WeConnect for updates? The car should just be connected from day one, end of. Don't make life difficult for the customer.
3: What is that ridiculous captive nut sticking out for in the underfloor compartment of the boot? One day I will catch that and no doubt cut myself. Why VW, just why?
4: Why does it take so long for the rear view to cancel from the infotainment screen after reversing and as we are waiting to pull away or even actually moving?
5: Why can't I see or have a service and maintenance history? It's my car, I paid hard-earned cash to buy it outright.
Don't get me wrong, we are very happy overall with the car but small annoyances become long-term issues.
VW has been too disrespectful of it's customers in my opinion.
11k subscribers only, hm your videos are informative you should be getting more subs for sure 👍
Agreed ;)
Naaaah....Chris is more for quality rather than quantity...just look at his criticism of the car... :)
I bought the id3 a month ago and it has the same problems. My version is not a 1st so I didn't get any discount on leasing but the same problems persist. Indeed I have found others. Now it is at the workshop for a second update.
I have also a VW Polo 2018 and a T-Roc 2019 and and neither has ever experienced any problems.
But you don't have to wait to long for the Id Software update ;)
3. it also disconnects BT connection, i.e. if you just got shortly out of the car, many times it does not reconnect to the phone and continue playing music. (Ok, maybe not an issue if you always use the USB cable)
I am using Android Auto. But when I was using bluetooth, it reconnect every time. Never a problem.
Thank Chris. I hope VW is listening.
WeConnect app is crap, very slow and no improvement in sight. Next car MUST be connected through a proper fast app. It's freakin' 2021. I have a smart plug extender from China that is faster, was 25 euro. Looks like the VW approach is similar to Nokia, if you know what I mean...
They are just late. Far behind. I hope it gets better over time. More and more features, more stable, faster,...
@@BatteryLife Jup, but they don't have to hope they'll get my money... they've already got it.
I would even like the We Connect ID app to at least get to the same position as the CarNet app on the eGolf. Scheduled charging, remote lock, flash lights, sound horn, get the data off (ready for my spreadsheet data analysis!). But don't stop there - add remote mirror heater, remote rear screen heater, remote heated steering wheel, etc.
@@BatteryLife NissanConnect in the Leaf is in the same ballpark. Useless crap despite it is used for years.
That’s a lot to dislike about your new car. I’ll buy a Tesla instead.
Nope, i like the driving feel better in this one.
Lane assit should not alter your insurance as your are responsible not the car. You should be monitoring your driving not the car. Is there not an overide setting
I get my new ID.3 today. (7 Aug 21) I’ll update you all with the latest on these issues.
I can understand why you hate those stuffs and I can tell you that I would hate my car, so you are very patient.
Most of these things, if not all, are fixable with SW. This is the EV I would really like to have. (since I never will be able to have a Taycan xD)
Everything lit, except where you need it most 😱😂
"Strongly" dislike is such a german way of saying Hate....
Hate is so aggressive.
@@BatteryLife the Brits would've used annoyiences when trying to downplay the issues.
Hello,thanks for this video.
Iam feel the same about the lane assist and first pressing proces before driving.same with the charging and kw/h info.but the brakes are All fine on me ID3.super will be to have a possibility to reduce traction control,this i dont like a LOT
Good luck
Well, that's about all of my grievances with my ID.3 covered as well. Sadly, the issues with the Infotainment software haven't improved as of mid/late April 2021. Hopefully, VW will use the OTA update facilities very soon, because its pretty damn crappy in an otherwise really nice car.
Update: As of early June 2021, nothing has improved from the software. The app is almost hopeless. It never connects to the car 30 yards away, from my bedroom window in direct line of sight [comes up with error]. Although it knows the exact state of charge, even after parking the car for an entire weekend. Once again, this video is entirely accurate. So many flaws in an otherwise nice car.
It looks very cold during your filming. Another great analysis. Thank you.
Well Chris, I would love to say that the Peugeot e-2008 was better, but it also has it flaws. Like a non functional smartphone app, steering assistant which cuts out mid corner without any warning. Appalling range in winter, a very slow infotainment system. Somehow you would think after all these years of experience with creating ice cars, they still mess up the eV models.
I believe keeping the seatbelt buckled when you exit the car lets you circumvent the car turning off. IIRC
I think so. There is a button to keep heat on when charging too. But it is annoying to do something before you get out of the car.
Conclusion: VW make great cars but are truly crap at software development. Even the brakes issue I suspect is a software problem.
It seems to be an issue with status quo automakers. I'd guess it's because they have to outsource most of the development on a contract basis so they will know their exact costs. Tesla's vertical integration is so far ahead I think it's going to make heads spin in the industry.
Anyway, I hope VW gives it due diligence because Tesla BADLY needs the competition.
Hello, the same anoying preset Lane assist with Hyundai Kona EV, each time you start the car.
Due too narrow roads, middle road positioned sewerage, I have to turn off the spec.
But you have a real button.
The obvious question has to be why did you buy it? There is much to be said regarding leasing a car of the type you intend to buy if you aren't 100% sure. There are leasing options out there now which allow you to lease on a monthly contract.....
You haven't watched the video, eh? I say it twice, that I love the car!
Hi I like the charging speed in Km per hour or minute. This way you know how long you should wait to drive and charge example 200 km.
Good for you. They can keep it, but add kW display for more accurate display. So changes can be spotted right away.
They should give you the choice.
OMG will never get one after this video 😂😂 Thanks for sharing ;)
Do not make that mistake. Test drive one. It is amazing to drive. When the software gets better, the car will be even better.
@@BatteryLife Im already on the list for a Model 3 SP. After the price cut it will cost me about 34k after incentives. Thats a very good price for what you actually get ;) This will be my first electric car... ill keep you updated how I like it.
A good friend of mine got his Model 3 Performance a month ago and let me tell you it is a real blast to drive. Not comparable to anything I have sat in till that day and being from Munich I have been in several BMW M Models. 👍🏽
Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass du auch Deutscher bist. Habe die Antwort jetzt trotzdem mal vorsichtshalber auf Englisch geschrieben, da das ja auch deine bevorzugte Sprache auf deinem Kanal ist.
Schöne Grüße aus München 👍🏽
@@lifestyle4dividends776 Model 3 performance for 34K. In what country you life to have such incentives? :-)
@@kevinschauwaers5585 I think you misunderstood what I wrote, please read again :)
I wrote that I am getting a Model 3 SP (Standard Plus) wich is 39.990€ after the price cut in Germany and we get 6.000€ in government incentives. So it will cost me around 34k
I was just referring to a good friend of mine who has a Model 3 Performance wich is a blast to drive :)
Have a nice day Kevin and stay safe 👍🏽
@@lifestyle4dividends776 OK in Belgium standard range is 48 K without incentives. Insanely price difference though
Thumbs up for this video^^
What is amazing is he still likes the car despite all the problems. Seems like VW rushed this to market without fixing all the bugs first. Who buys these things?
I do. It drives amazing. Software can be updated.
Some of that annoying things you mentioned I have also in my 2019 VW Polo:
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Like in your id3 the transmission mode is reset to D very time I start the car, even when the drive mode is in Eco. So every setting is set to eco, but not the transmission.
I don't ordered Lane assist, but the Start-Stop-Automatic also resets. Fortuntatelly in my car that is still a physical button. Also the climate controls ar phyiscal so the computer can't reset it.
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The app only has 2 features that I can use: Vehicle States and Navigation. The state only worked once, the navigation stuff does work most of the time.
This is a must which a manufacturer has to provide. The car has to start like you get it from the dealer. A German think from the previous Era. Don't think they should continue this with software. Would be terrible user experience
Is a sign like that "Norma" one common? Feels like it's from the 50s. Cool :)
That is a grocery store chain.
Thank you for being honest :). That´s the problem of being a pioneer, you suffer early issues. Be patient.
Great job Chris really hope VW will watch this. The bizarre feature that the car shuts down when you your behind leaves the seat is not just annoying its bordering on dangerous. Some of us have kids and dogs. If you leave your seat the heat instantly stops working. The app to precondition is very unreliable. YES there is a feature to climitize directly but it does not work. Like never. So in a cold country your kids or animals in a driverless parked car will be cold or warm. Is this OK VW? My granddad's VW had no problems with this in the sixties. A Trabant in DDR would probably solve this task. You market this car as a family car.
So VW please explain. To save juice is nice but to subject kids and animals to mother nature's whims. Over to you VW!
The heat does not stop while driving!
Preheating works for me 90% of the time.
For the case if Kids and Dogs parking,
you should use. Keep climate on!
Works perfect.
@@BatteryLife I wish it did I tried. It does not. Scheduling precond no can do. Lets hope the big update will solve this. VW should just have kept the on and off button and none of this would be an issue. Reputation wise for VW releasing an unfinished product albeit w discounts feels dodgy.
What has happened to VW ,This car should not have been released till all these Bugs were fixed,VW and Quality are no longer a sentence.
That simply explains why Toyota haven’t offered yet a full ev car, they will never release something that is not ready yet and up to their standards, which are highest of all car makers 👍
It had to be done to avoid higher EU CO2 fines.
I am glad they did. I am enjoying the car for 4 months now.
@@BatteryLife That's the main thing the bugs can be fixed,I have an ENV200 van since 2016 and love it,4yrs no problems.
had an eGolf for over 2 years now. I dont really trust VW to fix software bugs. I still have a tough time preheating the car with the phone app. This is an old car by now, should have it fixed. I realize that the ID line is the main focus but they could have fixed the software bugs years ago for eGolf. Next year I am moving to Tesla.
Nice car though. It should remember your settings I would expect. The breaking needs looking into.
VW Software problems which is expected from a manufacturing company, Tesla had manufacturing problems which is expect from a software company
Tesla isn’t a software company
@@abdu3abdu363 yes they are. The cars they make is secondary for them.
Next time your dealer gives you a loaner ask for a Tesla Model 3 just to compare.
Already done a comparison
I completly agree, for me the worst is the "lane assist" that go nuts almost every trip and try to push me out of the lane...
This really isn't my experience at all. I have lane assist active all the time and so far it has worked absolutely flawless. Not a single mistake.... I'm really impressed about its accuracy.
My daily commute is mostly via country lanes, and Lane Assist is a bit of a joke under those circumstances. Oddly, it turns off sometimes then pops back on when circumstances haven't really improved for it.
Here's a trick for you, open the door push the brake pedal without sitting, the car will wake up and if you don't close the door while opening the garage or gate in my case you don't have to sit thru another restart.
Leaving the door open is a hazard. You shouldn’t do that!
after driving around in a Golf mk8 for 7 months now. While I am used to it, making the dash so button-less was a mistake ( it is similar in interface with the ID.3, look it up if you are interested). While it is not that hard to use for me now, just a few more buttons for seat heating and fan speed would have been so much better. Also... WHY is the infotainment SO SLOW at the start. It feels like a PC from 15 years ago, when they had crazy "warm up" periods.
Yes I hope that this obsession with touch buttons and surfaces is gone in the next generation of cars. I get it for infotainment, but everything you need while driving should be physical!
@@manuelg8050 i am fine with the sliders btw. But the amount of buttons is too low. It doesn't need to become like a Kia or BMW with too many buttons, but it is just a bit silly now.
+1 I simply hate those capacitive non-highlighted volume and heating sliders. I wonder how this stupid idea went through all stages of Product development. It should be the same in the Golf 8.
2. Another immensely annoying thing is voice Control which I have disabled immediately. It is simply not working.
3. Unreliable Maps. I bet the maps are fine in Germany but in Sweden the speed limit set on the maps is just random. I had to disable all assists just to be able to drive normally.
Other than that, car is great
1. I am ok with the butrons. I just want to see them at all time.
2. Voice control does never work very well. And I find it weird to use it if there is someone else with you in the car.
3. I never used the automatic speed adjustment. Why would I drive the exact speed limit? And of course it cannot work perfect. Things change and so on. I can change the speed by myself anyway. Not hatd to do.
Used to have an E-Golf. The app almost never worked. I stopped using it. Let's hope VW get it right this time!!
The app doesn't work for the GTE either... unreliable piece of junk... and it was that experience with VW software that stops me considering an ID3 (at least, not for a couple more years, etc)
Buy a bloody coat man!
Why?
@@BatteryLife Oh you Germans are tough, but you’re making me feel cold 😂
@@BatteryLife Honest, now: do you wear the dressing gown to drive when we're not watching?
Hang on, fortunately is all software related!
You should have told us before we ordered one 🤬
And without test driving, too 🤦🏽♀️
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There is alot to like too 😉
I made a dislike video and my workshop video before. You knew ;)
Bought a bathrobe and it's incredibly itchy! I trusted you Chris, we want our money back.
@@giiillesM So yours is itchy as well, Gilles?
@@CaroAbebe yes if course, shouldn't have followed the hype around bathrobe ... or is it because of washing powder I use?
you leased it...and got a numberplate saying PAID :-)
It's funny how different things matter to different people. Agree about lane assist, most annoying although I believe it's not VW's choice but legislation? The other things you highlight don't bother me so much (I've had my id3 for three months but do far less driving than you) My previous car, the BMW i3, is inferior in some ways (stability and interior room for instance) but trumps the id3 with it's regen braking (which gives you genuine 1 pedal driving) and the idrive which I really miss (The 'iPad' controls on the VW feel like they've been designed by a fourteen year old tech wizard who's never driven a car). The other thing that annoys me is that there is no visible trip meter (unless of course I've missed something which is quite possible.)
So as there is a shortage of semi conductor chips for the car industry does that mean we can get 6 months free lease if we take delivery of the car without a computer?
maybe it could actually make the car better
I would love to add others three dislikes as 10 things sounds better like 7. James Bond has 007 and my lucky number is 7 😂😂😂 Of course, it’s just joke, great video as usually Chris, keep it doing.
100% I agree with you!
Where do you live? I live in Canada and planning to buy an electric car!
Bavaria
If a passenger wants to change the volume!!!!??
In the middle under the Infotainment system. But no illuminated.
Thanks, nothing to get me out of my Niro, it works perfectly 👍
You should watch the "what I like" video as well!
Thank you for the review. I think I'll hang onto my 15 year old Toyota for another 5 years.
The car immediately turning off just because you step out for a second is really annoying. I had a difficult time syncing my BMW i3 to my garage door opener because the car would turn off when I got out to go push the learn button on the garage door opener. Luckily, my i3 has a sunroof, so I was able to stand on my seat and reach through the sunroof. Why can't they program the cars to just hold the brake in this situation, and maybe turn off after 5 minutes?
Laptops on wheels.
Hopefully, VW now understands what a challenge it is to create good software. Microsoft for instance thought for years it could somehow muddle through with Windows Phone. Either you really focus on it, or you lose.
The brake issue is even more disconcerting. A German car maker should know that sportiness is all about linearity. Acceleration should be smooth, but equally, a car must provide consistent feedback when you are braking if you want to drive fast elegantly.
Really good video Chris. My Golf R is 3 years old and time to change. Thinking maybe electric, maybe Elon... just can’t make up my mind. VW haven’t been very persuasive either. Videos like yours help :-)
4. have you tried to reinstall the app? It solved the app problems for me after the ME2.0 update
It works ok. It got better the last week. I think it is the server.
Holy crap. I sure hope that when my id.4 Pro S arrives in the States this summer it won't have these problems.
It won't have the software problems!
Everything in the ID3's interior was designed separately by guys at their laptops showing their little piece of the design to their boss, trying to impress their boss. None of these f---ers put together all the pieces to try to use it a few days and see how infuriating and anti-consumer it is. If only the interior experience was as good as the exterior is designed.
100% agree on that breaking issue. I nearly got panic at an intersection just lately. As well I agree on the kW vs km/min issue: we need the kW and kWh/100km and so on display, everything else is crap. I wonder what Mr. Ulbrich thinks of his yearly statement from his energy provider that states the used electrical energy in kWh! Everybody that gets one of these statements - and I assume most of us do - are familiar with kWh and kW (hair dryer, oven, electrical heater...) so why the heck km/min as an electrical energy measure??? Please VW: get this corrected!
The thing is you already see the estimated time till charge limit and the current range in km the car claims to have. Km/h is just too confusing because it will always be different values between charges and even within a charge so you cannot really calculate when you will be at a specific km range.
I drove the ID3 a couple of times and I really like the design and how it looks. I own a Kia eSoul since almost a year and I am really surprised that none of the complaints you’ve happen in my car. #1, I haven’t had any single reliability issue. Of course the car SW is not as ambitious as on ID3 and it doesn’t have OTA but is extremely reliable.
#2, I think some problems are legal requirements so it happens on any car (like safety features always on) but climate and driving mode are always as I left it.
#3 well that’s the problem of having a seamless keyless system.
#4The UVO app doesn’t look as nice a the ID3 but what it matter the most it might have failed 5 out of 100 times but nothing to really complain about it.
#5 take it or leave it, it’s been a controversial decision what Vw did.
#6 regen works on cold weather as usual (sometimes less efficiently) but I does even at 100% SOC and the pedal feel is more than OK
#7 I still don’t understand why they can’t show the standard kW when charging, it seems like German automakers want to make unique things (like BMW showing battery size in Amps/h) I don’t think this is sth to like about eSoul since it is a standard thing on 99% of EVs... polestar 2 and Volvo xc40 don’t have this and it’s crap.. I agree
But the ID3 looks nice and some of the issues will be fixed eventually with updates, right?
It drives awesome. Software will get better for sure.
03. is really not pleasant, an eGolf at least ticks 30 seconds before doing it.
I don’t get why they don’t put the kW charging rate above the km/h (or km/minute) text. It would actually look very nice and symmetrical, just like the battery SoC is displayed on the bottom right side of the screen.
The volume thing truly baffles me. They’ve put a touch sensitive volume strip BELOW A TOUCH SENSITIVE SCREEN. And to add insult to injury, when you use the touch strip, it shows a volume control on the screen right above it, exactly as long as the strip. And the touch strip is not illuminated. That’s a mind-boggling level of weirdness and redundancy. Bizarro touch controls, the dumb shifter knob occluded by the steering wheel, and lack of AWD at the price point are the 3 chief reasons stopping me from ordering an ID.4. Okay, those three and the crap sound system.
My number one nuisance of this car: if I walk close to the car it unlocks. Automatically. Brilliant!! However, if I walk away from the car it doesn't lock automatically. You need to press the handle for that.... Why on earth did Volkswagen think that would be practical?? Automatic unlocking and only manual locking of the car.... it has happened to me sooo many times the car remained unlocked. I'll make sure never to leave anything of any value in there, because this really is an issue for me.
I was surprised in the beginning too. But now I prefer it.
So many times I walk away from a Zoe not paying attention and then I had to lock again to be sure.
@@BatteryLife I don't understand? My previous car did lock automatically when I left it. It's very simple technology, so it never failed me. My ID.3 however has remained unlocked overnight dozens of times already... it's terribly impractical! If there's one thing I could change about the car (besides the obvious software bugs) this would be it.
regarding the interior, VW should have a look into the mokka-e. it looks much nicer with integrated screens and real buttons. that is my main critique beside the 160km/h limit.
of course for some the 160 km/h is ok, but i demand at least 180 km/h.
from the outside, especially the front, i like the id3 a lot.
lets see what seat/cupra can do
Charging should show both power input (kW) and e.g. range gain per minute or hour (km/h) - that's not a problem from the software point of view. Just wondering how VW will manage the user feedback? BTW I'll pick up ID3 Pro Performance in April (hopefully) and would like to share the experience. Driving EV in Poland will be challenging ;)
Good stuff. I agree with all. How could they not make those important buttons illuminated - it's a mistery. It is SO obvious. If I can chip in from my experience - seats do not have good lower back support. For me it's absolutely crucial, as it showed up. I get a back pain already after an hour of driving. Had to buy a cushion. Adjusted back support should be there in a car for 30 k Euros+... And in general - the car feels CHEAP. Had an e-Golf before. The car was finished almost like a premium brand. This one - almost like a Kia from the 90's ;-p OK... more issues - the touch sensitive buttons are a big mistake, especially on the steering wheel - never know what is going to happen when I press them. What's wrong with proper buttons?! The ergonomics for tall drivers is not so good - I have the seat almost all the way back and my left elbow lands on a hard plastic edge/corner of the door. Plus - the upper edge of the windscreen is quite low... I think the door is not that well insulated for cold weather (I mean like -10 degrees C, I live in Norway). The visibility forward is greatly reduced by extensive A pillars, quite dangerous. So much lighting inside... but no light in the glove box. No rear air vents for the passangers. No rear speakers even in the 1st Plus version. No height adjusted boot floor (again, only in the expensive versions...). Overall - a very well enginnered car with lots of super annoying quirks and cost cuts. The e-Golf felt like a lot better car - all the mentioned pitfalls were absent... Chris, good job!!! Keep it up!
I totally agree with you when it comes to:
2. Always the question about Online or Offline mode, Error message about Internet Radio not being available, not selecting B-mode automatically if that was used last time, always have to switch of Lane assist.
4. The app with only a few features, never knowing if for example sending an address to the car will be received or not, sometimes it is received several hours later when. In my app it also sometimes show MIN instead of a temperature.
5. What were they thinking at VW when they decided to not have temp and volume slides illuminated?
1, 3, 6 & 7 has not bothered me that much yet, haven't done any long trips yet and have not used a DC-charger so far.
But still I really like the car, if it get some descent sw-updates I think it can be really good!
It has taken VW over a year to solve the software problems, and even now no one knows if the software will be 100% working. What is also clear is the VW dealers are also on a big learning curve. Not unusual, and these days most car dealers ( not just VW) have only one technical person to fix the issues.
I realized today that the request "please show kW instead of km/h" is too narrow and doesn't touch the real issue.
I get it that one of the targets for the VW MEB platform is to be "easy for ICE drivers to switch over", by making many predetermined choices about the EV car, so that an inexperienced ICE driver doesn't have to worry about that. But what after one, two, 5 or even 10 years?? The *real problem* is that the now experienced EV driver is still treated by the SW as the inexperienced ICE driver, because the SW doesn't offer *any* choices!
What I expect from VW to appear in the MEB SW, sometime after ME 2.1, are either
(a) an "ask always" setting, i.e. every time it makes an EV choice for me I get the option to cancel/override it, or
(b) a menu that list all the automatic choices built into the SW and let's me choose which ones to disable once I have gathered enough experience to make my own choice
I guess you would call that "nerd mode".
The climate control not being illuminated is such a massive oversight. How does that even happen?
This is on pretty much all of the new VW Group cars.
Not an oversight. The IR sensors are in there for the praximity sensor and gesture control. Those do not work well when there is illumination.
That is what I was told...
@@BatteryLife Oh... Interesting. 😅 They should definitely find a way around that for the next iteration though 😃
Does anybody actually use the gesture control? Just seems like a showroom gimmick to me 🤔
I hope they do. I use it all the time. Works well.
If VW are so convinced about showing charging in km/h, why don't they implement something similar in their ICE cars? (I know you're usually looking at the pump - just illustrating how mad it's is as a concept. Range added is massively dependent on conditions and how you drive - just like with ICE vehicles.
Does anyone actually like the ID3? Every review I see on RUclips complains about it. I’m having serious doubts on buying it now.
Next video👉🏼 7 things that got fixed after new firmware got installed.
So true!
Gangster reg, PAID.
Point for point its the same for the id4. Especially with point 6 with a 2 ton car. Nailbiting sometimes.
Thanks for the video take care and safe travels
Thx for all your videos. They made me order the ID4 1st Max (Needed the family size). Will be delivered and handed to me 1st of May.
The braking issue seems to be a bit more serious than the others complaints. It sounds like it is just doing regen braking when it's clearly time to go mechanical. You have me thinking about trying an emergency stop in my wife's Chevy Bolt. I do try to brake early and lightly in my plugin hybrid Hyundai Sonata so that I don't go to mechanical but I would like to be confident that I can stop quickly. Of course, there is always the issue of how heavy an EV is as well. Maybe the brakes are undersized on the ID.3 .
Same problem for years on we-connect on the e-Golf. They say their going to fix it. But still most days no contact. So pre-heating the VW way is to try with the app.... the go out to the car turn it on put the seatbelt on behind my back and then let it stay on.
The programmed Preheating works all the time though.
@@BatteryLife In the seven weeks I've got mine I only got the preheating to work once! And I still don't know what magic made it possible.
I can't even program any departure times to my car or the app.
Preheating works for me, just set your departure time with the climate set, then it's all good, it doesn't need we connect you can set it up in the car.
Programming Pre-heating in the car works, but remote start it from we connect is spotty at best. VW claims to have we connect and we connect ID on 2 separate server’s.
For the e-Golf I found out that when I sometimes lose contact with the car in the we-connect app I can open the glove-box and remove the SIM-card and re-insert it - then all of a sudden I have contact with the app again.