I am so glad to see others that are still rocking the FS5. I have two M2’s and just cannot get rid of them. It. Is just not worth it to upgrade to the FX6. You have quite a bit of gear! Dope!
Couldn't agree more! The FS5's are a great value. Not worth it for me to upgrade to the FX6 either. Maybe in a few years but for now they do a great job! Thanks so much watching!
A true professional you are. Footage looks beautiful. Would never know it was 8bit. Surprised but also not surprised that you didn’t even try to go ProRes Raw. I love that you used those sigma lenses. I have yet to try the 50-150 but man you’re all set brother.
Thanks for the kind words! Means a lot! I used to use ProRes Raw quite a bit but the file sizes were so big and I didn’t notice too much of a difference. The sigma lenses are so good. Pretty much the 50-100 1.8 and the 18-35 1.8 live on my cameras the majority of the time.
If I remeber correctly the FS5 records at 10bit proress 422 via the sdi and 16 bit raw which is converted to 12bit raw inside the recorder ( cinema DNG or proress raw)
Thanks so much for watching!!! Yes, I have the mark 1s. I had purchased them new around 6 years ago when they were relatively new. They have well over 1000+ Hrs now. I had to purchase the RAW upgrade as well which is an additional $500 bucks per camera. They still work great though!!! No dead pixels or anything. Never over heated once! You can find them so cheap now it’s crazy. Depending on the price I would say anything under 200 hrs you will definitely still get a good use out of it. I would just try before you buy. Even on Ebay make sure they have a return policy so you can inspect for issues. I hope you get one bro! It’s been my favorite camera. Even to this day I still find value in using them.
Bro you are progressing so fast in the YT game. The title was amazing and you delivered on it in the video. I would’ve like to hear more about how you got the client/how the gear was decided on/decision to get box truck, prep time…. And that was an awesome tease at the end for the next video. I think you’re going to pick up speed quick. Btw I just started my Amazon affiliate program. I think you could benefit from that as well.
Dude! Thanks to you man. Definitely an inspiration to me on YT. Thanks for all your positive feedback. It's been super helpful!! I'll look into the Amazon Affiliate Program that sounds great!
This is so amazing! I just picked up the mkii and I’m loving it. Your image is superb and super clean very clinical commercial look. What conversion lut are you using for SLOG? I can’t find one that I like
Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate the support! Im using the Alister Chapman slog-3 LUTS - www.xdcam-user.com/2018/08/new-venice-look-luts-version-3-includes-minus-green-luts-for-fs5-fs7-f55-a7s-a7r/alister-v-look-v3-s-log3/
Hi Joel, greato shoot! You almost convinced me to get an Atomos for my FS5, I was looking at ninjia V+, is your atomos shogun able to record prores raw 12 bit?
As a university with limited resources, we don’t buy often….things have to last. I love the FS5 for event recording (power zoom vital to follow action). I also use it for corporate and doc work. Its weakness when compared to our Canon C70 is low light performance and dynamic range (not quite as good - so the C70 covers wide - and closeups on FS5). C70 not as good for following action. With stage lighting, matching them hasn’t been an issue (on docs also).
That's awesome to hear that you're able to use the FS5 with the C70. Absolutely right! The C70 has great low light and dynamic range compared to the FS5 But glad you're able to make them work together. Thanks for sharing! Also thanks for watching!
Yo great video! i noticed those are the Mark i, makes me want to go back out on the hunt for the Mark ii i was planning on buying. How many hours do yours have and also when purchasing a use one, what hour range do you think is a safe bet?
Can you do a video on settings for the fs5 mk 1 that you use? I'm still learning mine and want to maximize my image. I have the mk1 with raw and the shogun inferno
I recently acquired an fx3 and started looking for a b cam as i shoot mostly interviews! Seeing your footages and the fs5 prices lately am so tempted. Do the fx3 match well with them? Or its just too much work? 😅 Thanks a lot for your videos too! Its invaluable!
That's so awesome! Thanks so much! Honestly, They don't match very well. The sensor is just a little different. It would take a little work to get them to match well. I would say it could be possible to create a correction LUT in Davinci for each camera. That could be a work around for sure. Just my thoughts! Thanks so much for watching!
Awesome! Thanks so much for watching! I appreciate it. Typically I will use false color on my monitor and try to keep the skin tones in the middle around the green. It's a really great way to make sure you don't clip the exposure on the skin.
@@JoelGabrielsen Thanks mate, cheers. Your images look beautiful and I also struggle with SLOG3. Do you use ISO or Gain and if ISO do you keep this the same or change depending on light.
@@JoelGabrielsen Thanks mate, I think the Inferno is discontinued now from Atomos, I'll have a look at the Shogun. Just checked, both products are not available. I wonder if the HDMI is capable of 4K 50p 10bit 4:2:2:.
Thanks for watching!!! I use an Atomos recorder via HDMI. You can record 4K Slog3 Prores 422. I used to record Prores RAW via the SDI but the workflow was a little too much for me.
If you’re outputting via hdmi, then it’s only 8bit 4:2:2 which isn’t at all ideal for slog3. So long as you’re not pushing heavy grades, it’s not too bad, but still not great. With that said, I’m just glad you didn’t tell me you were getting slog3 via sdi, because that don’t work. 😂
@@PatrickLipp Yes!!! That's correct. That's definitely a downside to the FS5. The 8bit codec. I definitely try not to push the grade very much. Over exposing definitely helps to clean up the image. I've heard of people having good results shooting 1080p 10bit and upscaling to 4k. I've never tried it but thought it was interesting.
Great video and great results. Aim I correct I’m thinking that you can’t get the FS5 raw signal into the ATOMOS to recording on anything but ProRes RAW (so, no LT, HQ etc,)? Thanks 🙏
Hello Joel G, what a great explanation, you made me trust this equipment lol... well, I just wanna know I heard you saying that you used Slog 3? on this 8 bit cam? was the coloring prosses that easy, yes it looks great. I have a A7sii, but am tempted to shift to this is of coz for the looks and few tech aspect, Do you mind breaking down for me.. Beside the camera it self what extras needed? I have a Inferno ninja 7" can it assist to record with Pro res? Please help.. I have subscribed
Awesome!! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! I appreciate it! Yes that is correct. I was filming everything 4k Slog3 Prores 8bit. When filming Slog 3 you have to make sure you overexpose the image 1.5 -2 stops over. The ninja inferno 7 is great to record 4k Slog3 Prores 8bit via HDMI. I would load these luts onto the monitor. www.xdcam-user.com/2018/08/new-venice-look-luts-version-3-includes-minus-green-luts-for-fs5-fs7-f55-a7s-a7r/ I use the Alister_V-Look_-1p50.cube. I typically use the monitor to dial in my image. Making sure I have plenty of light. I would recommend this camera for sure! Really the only accessories you need are batteries and media. The sony branded batteries are pretty pricey. I would recommend these - amzn.to/3XvngH7 They have a D-tap which you can use to power the monitor as well. You should get about 1.5-2 hrs per battery. Hopefully this was helpful!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! I think APSC super 35 is a great format. Most of my favorite cameras are super 35. FX30 is a great choice! I think with the lenses that are available today for APSC it's very hard to tell the difference anymore.
I have the fs5 w/25mm f2 but not the equipment just 2 lights w/softboxes. So my question to you is do recommend that I use hlg2 or slog2? I knw the camera isn't good in low light so I have 2 for that. Also during a low light situation even with lights. Would you recommend slog2? It's not many videos on the fs5 especially now. Anyone can chime in. New to the camera and filming. Thx ya for the video
Thanks for watching!!! Great question. I would recommend shooting in slog2 or slog3 to really get the best out of the FS5. If you don't see the slog3 option you might need to do a firmware update. When filming any sort of S-log you really have to overexpose the image anywhere between 1-2 stops to get a clean image but without clipping the highlights. If you don't over expose you might start to notice some noise. I would recommend getting a monitor that you can load a correction LUT onto. It's an easy way to dial in a shot without getting scientific and using a light meter. These monitors are amazing for $145 bucks - amzn.to/40wbDCs Also, I can't say enough good things about the Alister Chapman Venice LUTS - www.xdcam-user.com/2018/08/new-venice-look-luts-version-3-includes-minus-green-luts-for-fs5-fs7-f55-a7s-a7r/alister-v-look-v3-s-log3/
Thanks so much! I definitely think lighting is the most important contributor to image quality. I've seen people who can make an old school Canon 5dmk1 look better than any Hollywood movie today! Thanks for watching!
I am so glad to see others that are still rocking the FS5. I have two M2’s and just cannot get rid of them. It. Is just not worth it to upgrade to the FX6. You have quite a bit of gear! Dope!
Couldn't agree more! The FS5's are a great value. Not worth it for me to upgrade to the FX6 either. Maybe in a few years but for now they do a great job! Thanks so much watching!
Yea FS5 is a great camera that makes the $$$.
Just what I needed, been contemplating picking up an FS5. Great BTS footage and setup
Thanks so much! Honestly they are great cameras and I still use them all the time.
A true professional you are. Footage looks beautiful. Would never know it was 8bit. Surprised but also not surprised that you didn’t even try to go ProRes Raw. I love that you used those sigma lenses. I have yet to try the 50-150 but man you’re all set brother.
Thanks for the kind words! Means a lot!
I used to use ProRes Raw quite a bit but the file sizes were so big and I didn’t notice too much of a difference.
The sigma lenses are so good. Pretty much the 50-100 1.8 and the 18-35 1.8 live on my cameras the majority of the time.
If I remeber correctly the FS5 records at 10bit proress 422 via the sdi and 16 bit raw which is converted to 12bit raw inside the recorder ( cinema DNG or proress raw)
Great setup! please do more videos like this
Thanks so much! Will do!
Thanks so much for watching!!!
Yes, I have the mark 1s. I had purchased them new around 6 years ago when they were relatively new. They have well over 1000+ Hrs now. I had to purchase the RAW upgrade as well which is an additional $500 bucks per camera.
They still work great though!!! No dead pixels or anything. Never over heated once!
You can find them so cheap now it’s crazy. Depending on the price I would say anything under 200 hrs you will definitely still get a good use out of it. I would just try before you buy. Even on Ebay make sure they have a return policy so you can inspect for issues.
I hope you get one bro! It’s been my favorite camera. Even to this day I still find value in using them.
What about the FS7, how they compare?
Bro you are progressing so fast in the YT game. The title was amazing and you delivered on it in the video. I would’ve like to hear more about how you got the client/how the gear was decided on/decision to get box truck, prep time….
And that was an awesome tease at the end for the next video. I think you’re going to pick up speed quick.
Btw I just started my Amazon affiliate program. I think you could benefit from that as well.
Dude! Thanks to you man. Definitely an inspiration to me on YT. Thanks for all your positive feedback. It's been super helpful!! I'll look into the Amazon Affiliate Program that sounds great!
@@JoelGabrielsen I just uploaded a video and added all of my links. Hopefully people use it haha
Beautiful images man!
Thanks so much!! I appreciate the support!
Great Content Joel, I use Fs5ii for my shoots, its been a great camera.
Thanks so much! Absolutely, The FS5 cameras are still really great!!
love and blessings!
Thanks so much for watching!!!
You just convinced me to save money!
Absolutely! I still use my FS5's for most of my projects. Really reliable.
Geez miss my FS5. Trade it for and FX3, I don't regret it but I miss the built in ND
Thanks for watching! Im with you! Having that internal ND is nice but that FX3 is a great upgrade.
This is so amazing! I just picked up the mkii and I’m loving it. Your image is superb and super clean very clinical commercial look. What conversion lut are you using for SLOG? I can’t find one that I like
Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate the support! Im using the Alister Chapman slog-3 LUTS - www.xdcam-user.com/2018/08/new-venice-look-luts-version-3-includes-minus-green-luts-for-fs5-fs7-f55-a7s-a7r/alister-v-look-v3-s-log3/
Hi Joel, greato shoot! You almost convinced me to get an Atomos for my FS5, I was looking at ninjia V+, is your atomos shogun able to record prores raw 12 bit?
As a university with limited resources, we don’t buy often….things have to last. I love the FS5 for event recording (power zoom vital to follow action). I also use it for corporate and doc work. Its weakness when compared to our Canon C70 is low light performance and dynamic range (not quite as good - so the C70 covers wide - and closeups on FS5). C70 not as good for following action. With stage lighting, matching them hasn’t been an issue (on docs also).
That's awesome to hear that you're able to use the FS5 with the C70. Absolutely right! The C70 has great low light and dynamic range compared to the FS5 But glad you're able to make them work together. Thanks for sharing! Also thanks for watching!
you shared nice ! so long~fellow!=))
Thanks for visiting!
I cannot believe how good an image you have out of the fs5. How do you handle non IS sigma lens on the dolly and gimbal, any micro jitters?
Absolutely!! That’s a great question. I supply try to build my FS5 up to add some weight. This really helps with the micro jitters!
@@JoelGabrielsen Thanks for the tip! Do you have an issues with non is lenses on gimbals ?
Yo great video! i noticed those are the Mark i, makes me want to go back out on the hunt for the Mark ii i was planning on buying. How many hours do yours have and also when purchasing a use one, what hour range do you think is a safe bet?
Can you do a video on settings for the fs5 mk 1 that you use? I'm still learning mine and want to maximize my image. I have the mk1 with raw and the shogun inferno
Sure thing!!! Next time I have a project with the FS5 I will do a in depth walkthrough of setup and settings.
I recently acquired an fx3 and started looking for a b cam as i shoot mostly interviews! Seeing your footages and the fs5 prices lately am so tempted. Do the fx3 match well with them? Or its just too much work? 😅 Thanks a lot for your videos too! Its invaluable!
That's so awesome! Thanks so much! Honestly, They don't match very well. The sensor is just a little different. It would take a little work to get them to match well. I would say it could be possible to create a correction LUT in Davinci for each camera. That could be a work around for sure. Just my thoughts!
Thanks so much for watching!
Great vide mate, I have the FS5M2 and love this camera however I never shoot Log. Where do you put the skin tones for SLOG3? Cheers.
Awesome! Thanks so much for watching! I appreciate it. Typically I will use false color on my monitor and try to keep the skin tones in the middle around the green. It's a really great way to make sure you don't clip the exposure on the skin.
@@JoelGabrielsen Thanks mate, cheers. Your images look beautiful and I also struggle with SLOG3. Do you use ISO or Gain and if ISO do you keep this the same or change depending on light.
Great video, I have the FS5M2 and was wondering what external recorder I need to get 4k 4:2:2. Thanks mate.
Thanks! I use the Atomos shogun inferno and shogun 7 via SDI. They work great!
@@JoelGabrielsen Thanks mate, I think the Inferno is discontinued now from Atomos, I'll have a look at the Shogun. Just checked, both products are not available.
I wonder if the HDMI is capable of 4K 50p 10bit 4:2:2:.
How exactly did you record slog3 in prores?
Thanks for watching!!! I use an Atomos recorder via HDMI. You can record 4K Slog3 Prores 422. I used to record Prores RAW via the SDI but the workflow was a little too much for me.
If you’re outputting via hdmi, then it’s only 8bit 4:2:2 which isn’t at all ideal for slog3. So long as you’re not pushing heavy grades, it’s not too bad, but still not great.
With that said, I’m just glad you didn’t tell me you were getting slog3 via sdi, because that don’t work. 😂
Should preface I’m an fs5 owner with shogun inferno, so I was genuinely curious if you knew some special magic sauce!
@@PatrickLipp Yes!!! That's correct. That's definitely a downside to the FS5. The 8bit codec. I definitely try not to push the grade very much. Over exposing definitely helps to clean up the image. I've heard of people having good results shooting 1080p 10bit and upscaling to 4k. I've never tried it but thought it was interesting.
Great video and great results. Aim I correct I’m thinking that you can’t get the FS5 raw signal into the ATOMOS to recording on anything but ProRes RAW (so, no LT, HQ etc,)? Thanks 🙏
Hello Joel G, what a great explanation, you made me trust this equipment lol... well, I just wanna know I heard you saying that you used Slog 3? on this 8 bit cam? was the coloring prosses that easy, yes it looks great. I have a A7sii, but am tempted to shift to this is of coz for the looks and few tech aspect, Do you mind breaking down for me.. Beside the camera it self what extras needed? I have a Inferno ninja 7" can it assist to record with Pro res? Please help.. I have subscribed
Awesome!! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! I appreciate it!
Yes that is correct. I was filming everything 4k Slog3 Prores 8bit.
When filming Slog 3 you have to make sure you overexpose the image 1.5 -2 stops over.
The ninja inferno 7 is great to record 4k Slog3 Prores 8bit via HDMI.
I would load these luts onto the monitor. www.xdcam-user.com/2018/08/new-venice-look-luts-version-3-includes-minus-green-luts-for-fs5-fs7-f55-a7s-a7r/
I use the Alister_V-Look_-1p50.cube.
I typically use the monitor to dial in my image. Making sure I have plenty of light.
I would recommend this camera for sure! Really the only accessories you need are batteries and media. The sony branded batteries are pretty pricey. I would recommend these - amzn.to/3XvngH7
They have a D-tap which you can use to power the monitor as well. You should get about 1.5-2 hrs per battery.
Hopefully this was helpful!
@@JoelGabrielsen I've had a beast of a time matching my FS5 to my FX3. So you're using SLOG3 not SLOG2 on your FS5?
@@JoelGabrielsenthanks a lot for these answers 😊
Joel, I am really wondering if the FX30 would work in a similar scenario. Can we really go pro and stay in APSC in 2023?
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! I think APSC super 35 is a great format. Most of my favorite cameras are super 35. FX30 is a great choice! I think with the lenses that are available today for APSC it's very hard to tell the difference anymore.
I have the fs5 w/25mm f2 but not the equipment just 2 lights w/softboxes. So my question to you is do recommend that I use hlg2 or slog2? I knw the camera isn't good in low light so I have 2 for that. Also during a low light situation even with lights. Would you recommend slog2? It's not many videos on the fs5 especially now. Anyone can chime in. New to the camera and filming. Thx ya for the video
Thanks for watching!!! Great question. I would recommend shooting in slog2 or slog3 to really get the best out of the FS5. If you don't see the slog3 option you might need to do a firmware update. When filming any sort of S-log you really have to overexpose the image anywhere between 1-2 stops to get a clean image but without clipping the highlights. If you don't over expose you might start to notice some noise. I would recommend getting a monitor that you can load a correction LUT onto. It's an easy way to dial in a shot without getting scientific and using a light meter.
These monitors are amazing for $145 bucks - amzn.to/40wbDCs
Also, I can't say enough good things about the Alister Chapman Venice LUTS - www.xdcam-user.com/2018/08/new-venice-look-luts-version-3-includes-minus-green-luts-for-fs5-fs7-f55-a7s-a7r/alister-v-look-v3-s-log3/
@@JoelGabrielsen thx ya. I'm definitely finna grab my notebook and writing this down. Thx ya 🙏🏽
bro why does the sony fs5's look better than the fx6
Thanks so much! I definitely think lighting is the most important contributor to image quality. I've seen people who can make an old school Canon 5dmk1 look better than any Hollywood movie today!
Thanks for watching!