The feedback snow forces are very different and on softer, wetter off piste snow, the flexing transition gave me more assurance of not falling over. I think it's good to lean/ practice all 3 types... personally, I also hang out in the middle.
Great that you address this issue. Flexing to release or downward unweighting has become some kind of a religion in stead of one of the options in transition. More or less upward movement help the legs relax and adds a sense of fluidity. I like the middle the most. That is where I reside the most.
Great video. My wife and I are currently working on adding more tools to deepen our carves and round out our turns at this time of year when the spring groomers are screaming for it. We thought we already were achieving deep carves until we watched ourselves on video and we aren't getting as low with as much edge angle as we thought!
Thank you for this Illustration as it is very helpful. I find your channel Reilly and Tom’s from TDK racing (Triggerboy62) the most on point regarding technique to carve efficiently. In my experience the 3rd option contains less movement to manage and is a highly efficient use of energy. I also see that in your beautiful skiing as well. I presently go between 2 and 3 depending upon my mind’s attention, and when I experience the the 3rd option it feels effortless. Old habits die hard. Thank you and I’m grateful for your effort and resultant content! However, having now subscribed to your channel Reilly, and watching your other content (in particular your video on skiing new vs. old school 2 years ago), you bring up excellent points to help me temper my view and tendency for seeking universal technique. In particular I needed to be reminded how my individual body physics do indeed play a role in the turn. Thank you very much for your study and practice with these concepts.
Any way you cut it, the skis get light over the snow as the edges change. In the old days, extension was called up-unweighting, flexion was called down-unweighting (or avalement), and most of us used one or the other or something in between as the terrain dictated. And I realized that my difficulty in bumps increased with a decline in my use of flexion.
great video again, nice to see the differences, it is startling .... flexion almost like compression turns and little up and down ... i like to just cross over like speed skaters ... you can put a ruler on their back and will hardly see any up/down. use the terrain. if that makes any sense, lol. I'm not a teacher. Seems like so many ways to do it now.
Finally someone officially points out that it's not either extension or flexion. There a good mix of both.(which is the most natural and mostly used IMHO)
Really great demos. What's missing here is a discussion of the pros/cons of each in different skiing conditions. Hope there's a followup video that takes this on. Subscribed.
Hi Reilly. What's your trigger thought to initiate the next turn? Inside leg extension, flatten inside ski...neither (something else)? Would be great to get your thoughts. Thanks!
Put a black suit on while doing #2, and that could be me, most of the time ;) Thought about your videos today as for the first time in a while, I had one run with no one else on the trail, and it was *mar-ve-lous* :)
Hi this is charley you taught me not long ago and we are going skiing next year at Salt Lake City but most likely not at the canyons probably at park city do you know where you’ll be teaching again and if you are I hope you’ll be my instructor again and I remember you on the ski lift with us talking about how you were going to make some RUclips shorts and videos and they are great! I hope you see this comment!
One cannot be too early on the new edge, almost. I take this with me for my season-ending this weekend and check my turns. Thx for the awesome tutorial-shorts! ⛷
Aha! I see you too are rocking the all-white ski outfit. (well, grey, but you know what I mean) I had to look FOREVA to find one for guys. I urge you now to get a while helmet, goggles and a silver mirror. Then you too, can be Capt. Powder. (and also invisible!)
Great video Reilly! Can you make a video either on RUclips or your premium section on how to develop long leg/short leg carving with vertical separation instead of horizontal separation? There doesn't seem to be any resources on the internet on how to take carving to the next level beside HH's Essentials.
to do a flexion release you do not need to un weight the skis... this is one option yes, but keeping constant pressure from snow force contact is also another way to do it... thats why i don't call it unweighting as that is just one way to d a flexion release and there are a few..
@@ReillyMcGlashan So, a "release" is not necessarily an unweighting or lightening of the skis on the snow? I usually lift the new inside ski off or almost off the snow in the transition and I do that by flexing or extending, so I assume that is "unweighting", but I'm not trained in instructor jargon. I guess a gradual transfer form one ski to the next without losing contact at any one point would cover all the possibilities, but I would still think there is a lightening of the skis all the same. OK, time for me to shut up and go skiing.
I agree, but this is not that simple :) let's say turn#2 is the orthodox way nowaday... turn#3 as demonstrated here is a nogo since the remaining question is why are you doing a very flexed transition since there is no ground reaction here (because you don't turn the shortest)? However, turn#3 is the orthodox way in SL with ground reaction and pivot. btw very nice demo for all 3 turns !
I like this toolbox approach where there are several possible options to choose from and none is more correct than the other.
Glad you like it! 😀
The feedback snow forces are very different and on softer, wetter off piste snow, the flexing transition gave me more assurance of not falling over. I think it's good to lean/ practice all 3 types... personally, I also hang out in the middle.
Great that you address this issue. Flexing to release or downward unweighting has become some kind of a religion in stead of one of the options in transition. More or less upward movement help the legs relax and adds a sense of fluidity. I like the middle the most. That is where I reside the most.
I agree! too much religion... I usually also hang out in the middle 🤣
@@ReillyMcGlashan Love your content.
Finally somebody who touched this topic…
Great job buddy!!!! 😊
Glad you liked it 😀
Excellent explanation and demo! Love to see the boxes of different degree of flexion/extension at the end...
Beautifully and precisely demonstrated! Such a masterpiece for this important topic ❤❤❤
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Great video. My wife and I are currently working on adding more tools to deepen our carves and round out our turns at this time of year when the spring groomers are screaming for it. We thought we already were achieving deep carves until we watched ourselves on video and we aren't getting as low with as much edge angle as we thought!
Reilly - Your new videos are "killing it"! Keep it up. Helps us coaches get through our "(dis?) -agreements. Thanks- Crawford
Thanks a ton Reilly, you’ve helped me fall in love with skiing and carving
Thank you for this Illustration as it is very helpful. I find your channel Reilly and Tom’s from TDK racing (Triggerboy62) the most on point regarding technique to carve efficiently.
In my experience the 3rd option contains less movement to manage and is a highly efficient use of energy. I also see that in your beautiful skiing as well. I presently go between 2 and 3 depending upon my mind’s attention, and when I experience the the 3rd option it feels effortless. Old habits die hard.
Thank you and I’m grateful for your effort and resultant content!
However, having now subscribed to your channel Reilly, and watching your other content (in particular your video on skiing new vs. old school 2 years ago), you bring up excellent points to help me temper my view and tendency for seeking universal technique.
In particular I needed to be reminded how my individual body physics do indeed play a role in the turn.
Thank you very much for your study and practice with these concepts.
Absolutely brilliant!
Reilly, great skiing as always. Question: when would you use each of these 3 types of turns (snow conditions, etc)?
Any way you cut it, the skis get light over the snow as the edges change. In the old days, extension was called up-unweighting, flexion was called down-unweighting (or avalement), and most of us used one or the other or something in between as the terrain dictated. And I realized that my difficulty in bumps increased with a decline in my use of flexion.
👍 great work. Really enjoyed this video!
great video again, nice to see the differences, it is startling .... flexion almost like compression turns and little up and down ... i like to just cross over like speed skaters ... you can put a ruler on their back and will hardly see any up/down. use the terrain. if that makes any sense, lol. I'm not a teacher. Seems like so many ways to do it now.
Finally someone officially points out that it's not either extension or flexion. There a good mix of both.(which is the most natural and mostly used IMHO)
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Thank you so much Reilly !!!! 👍
You are welcome! 😀
Really great demos. What's missing here is a discussion of the pros/cons of each in different skiing conditions. Hope there's a followup video that takes this on. Subscribed.
it's beautiful, in which region it is? 👍🏻👏
PERFECT! 🤩
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Nice demos!!
Great video 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed
Hi Reilly. What's your trigger thought to initiate the next turn? Inside leg extension, flatten inside ski...neither (something else)? Would be great to get your thoughts. Thanks!
Put a black suit on while doing #2, and that could be me, most of the time ;)
Thought about your videos today as for the first time in a while, I had one run with no one else on the trail, and it was *mar-ve-lous* :)
😀👍
More punchy points. Great vid.
Thanks for the comment
Hi this is charley you taught me not long ago and we are going skiing next year at Salt Lake City but most likely not at the canyons probably at park city do you know where you’ll be teaching again and if you are I hope you’ll be my instructor again and I remember you on the ski lift with us talking about how you were going to make some RUclips shorts and videos and they are great! I hope you see this comment!
Can you explain the performance differences between these techniques?
in this video they were all the same performance.. all carving
Do you think you hit the same edge angle at the apex?
@@Edgeangle will depend on turn shape
Hi Reilly. Short question here: How much correction (canting) did you need to off-set the tib curvature in both of your legs?
One cannot be too early on the new edge, almost. I take this with me for my season-ending this weekend and check my turns. Thx for the awesome tutorial-shorts! ⛷
Good luck!
Since new skis go into reverse camber much more easily, the edge set can start a lot sooner.
It looks like your putting your weight in the inside ski during your extension carve, is that better?
Aha! I see you too are rocking the all-white ski outfit. (well, grey, but you know what I mean) I had to look FOREVA to find one for guys.
I urge you now to get a while helmet, goggles and a silver mirror. Then you too, can be Capt. Powder. (and also invisible!)
Great video Reilly! Can you make a video either on RUclips or your premium section on how to develop long leg/short leg carving with vertical separation instead of horizontal separation? There doesn't seem to be any resources on the internet on how to take carving to the next level beside HH's Essentials.
@@peripheral1258 I think there are dozens of videos that demonstrate shortening/flexing/pull up the inside leg. Gellie, Berger, McC, Armstrong, etc.
so flexion is controlling the pressure under the core like bending turns?
I would say flexion is a way to unweight the skis for the turn transition. Also called down unweighting.
to do a flexion release you do not need to un weight the skis... this is one option yes, but keeping constant pressure from snow force contact is also another way to do it... thats why i don't call it unweighting as that is just one way to d a flexion release and there are a few..
@@ReillyMcGlashan understood!
@@ReillyMcGlashan So, a "release" is not necessarily an unweighting or lightening of the skis on the snow? I usually lift the new inside ski off or almost off the snow in the transition and I do that by flexing or extending, so I assume that is "unweighting", but I'm not trained in instructor jargon. I guess a gradual transfer form one ski to the next without losing contact at any one point would cover all the possibilities, but I would still think there is a lightening of the skis all the same. OK, time for me to shut up and go skiing.
It's been an utterly desperate year here in Europe for snow Rielly, nothing but rain and slush.
Are you in Cali?
no i am in europe! it has been bad
Come to Whitefish and ski with me.
who are you?
It's some kind of funny that Odermatt dominates these days with his style.
But it is all the same because you make your skis light in the transition.
The truth is always in the middle
I agree
I also agree
I agree, but this is not that simple :)
let's say turn#2 is the orthodox way nowaday...
turn#3 as demonstrated here is a nogo since the remaining question is why are you doing a very flexed transition since there is no ground reaction here (because you don't turn the shortest)?
However, turn#3 is the orthodox way in SL with ground reaction and pivot.
btw very nice demo for all 3 turns !
Less angulation, more inclination!
it wasn't really the topic of this video but I agree... More inclination 🤣
Not a single thing was explained.
you don't read?