I would say at least Scholarships if not Cash Prizing.... Give opportuniy for at least players to go to school, get better jobs, earn more money to buy more of your product.... Comes full circle.
I'm sixteen and that would be a god send. Lot's of players are in there older teens to young twenties so it would make since. I think it would definitely help alot of them but what would that bring to the table? College tuition in the US is absurd compared to other countries and it would be very much resticted to the top 4 players and could put a hole in tge games budget also it could hurt the educational system as a whole cause kids would actually try to play it more to try and get scholar ships and more people wouldn't really pay attention to actual school. Also Yugioh takes alot of skill do high schoolers who aren't very good could get pissy if they lose since high schoolers tend to be more competitive when it comes to that kind of stuff. Also some students might not be able to travel to those events with lack of money or school days. As much as I would love that it's very impractical.
okay so on the grounds of taxation its this can be more of a taxable write off for them, but outside of that if money is involved konami will need to "tighten" how players act both inside and outside the tourney to ensure things are kept under control(like hiring extra security, referees for both rulings and monitoring) but that's just me
In Pokemon who ever win regionals get $5000, a Nintendo switch ,a champion mat ,6 booster boxes,and a champion trophy. Second place gets $2500 and the same ,3rd place $1500 same, 4th gets $1000 same. Everybody else all the way to top 48 gets $250 and 2 booster boxes. Yugioh really need change.
@@kypli1511 actually magic usually isn't that bad from what I heard. Usually. In recent times, I heard it's gotten pretty bad basically because standard got really... Awkward I guess. See the whole problemfest with Nexus of fate red rush, and tefiri, but in healthier times for Magic, the price of Standard I don't think was as bad as it can be for YGO. Also it's very hard to say at the same time though, because Magic has basically always had cash prizes so there's nothing to go by. However, one could test it. If Wizards announced that they would no longer do cash prizes would the prices of decks on the 2ndary market drop? Presumably so, because you'd have the 'netdeckers' who were playing those top tier decks for the purpose of winning said cash prize no longer incentized to play, and thus they don't buy those singles, leading to less demand. However, this will only affect the price IF enough players are no longer interested in building those decks enough to force the price to go down. AKA, if people keep buying the decks anyway, the price won't really go down. All that's happen is that you'd lose part of the crowd. But as long as you have a critical mass of people that will buy the cards and participate in the events to win (it's not like no prize support will take 100% of attendance) then things will remain the same. I would argue the same is true for YGO in a vice versa fashion. Adding cash prizes just means that those who go to YCSs to compete for them might be more willing to pay more to get better cards and decks. That doesn't necessarily reflect the much bigger casual market. Adding cash prizes will only successfully raise the price if enough people consistently buy the cards for that higher price. If people don't buy, the price will stay where it has been at it's equilibrium. Sure you might be justified to charge higher, but if no one buys, you're not really getting anywhere. What I mean to say is that by trying to milk money from.the smaller competitive player base, vendors would be losing the money they could be getting from those who don't care about going to YCSs. You'd sell 100 copies for 200$ when you could sell 1000 copies for 100$. That matters when you have stock that just sitting there aging and gradually losing relevance and value. Don't forget about the fundamentals of econ peeps!
Rinkamime oh, people would pay the prices. They already pay $90 for one card. Team APS actually did a video on it. And they said “ well if you won’t pay that price, someone else will”
It's funny that in their Anime, Dueling is actually a profession that people can make lives off of. So they hint at that possibility but you have to consider what it would mean if they gave cash prize support. Currently, they make money from printing cardboard and rubber mats. If they changed their support to actual money, the amount of profit they make will significantly decrease. As a company, it doesn't seem like a logical decision to incur such a change.
So, as someone who plays Magic the Gathering and has actually gotten prize money (though not consistently, I'm only "fine") I can give a little bit of data on how it's altered MtG. (Also, love the channel. I play YGO for casual fun so you guys are a wealth of info.) Fights- There's roughly five major events a month, along with a handful of others. I have personally never seen a fight or something close outside of local stores. This is mostly due to how much support MtG for it's judge program- they're everywhere and foster a great atmosphere. Participation prizes- So, I only play YGO very casually, but are playmats not normal? Every magic tourmament has playmats, usually sleeves, and a few other throw ins. Even local game story Friday Night Magic usually has some small prizes. From what you're saying, it sounds like you're already getting less. Young players- This worry, man you're right to have. While the judges work hard to make tournaments welcoming for everyone, I rarely see any kids. It's definitely a young adult-adult game. I've even seen this carry over to FNM (I guess our version of locals?) where the average age is probably 25. Theft- Another one where you're on the money. Theft is rampant at MtG tournaments, so much so that they sell deckboxes and backpacks advertised to help prevent theft (some even have GPS trackers in them.) I don't know how much there is in YGO to compare, but it's common at tournaments. Other stuff- MtG pays for it's prize support out of admission and, mainly, it's advertising budget. That's why you never see commercials- tournament prizes are the commercials. Play MtG, make $$$. It doesn't count as gambling and requires little extra paperwork (though I've never run one so I could be offbase.) Winnings are taxed income though, so you have to pay attention to it. Magic also offers cards/paid flights/uncut sheets as prizes as well, so it's not an either/or proposition. Travel- Do YGO tournaments not give out invites to the next event? That's really common. If nothing else, winning a YCS should get you a paid flight/hotel to the next one. They already get discounted prices at hotels for mass booking their own employees/staff, so it's insane that they don't. More than cash, if I were a good Yugioh player I would campaign for this. If top players can't get to events, of course they won't hit the top eight consistently. It's also great for the metagame, as it provides clearer data on what's good. Teams- I don't know if this is a thing in YGO, but the advent of cash prizes made pro-teams a huge deal. People would join together, practice against one another, and help with deckbuilding to the point where pretty much every top eight player is on a testing team. A fair amount are sponsored as well. (It all comes back to advertising.) Side Events- Because Magic tournaments are, by default, only a few people make day two, their biggest appeal is all of the side events. Artists are there signing/altering cards, stores have booths, and side events are huge. Mini-tournaments that exist separately from the main for smaller stakes. They also have play with the pros/celebrity events where each eight person pod will have some relevant celebrity or mtg youtuber in it (like you guys.) All in all, it's a mixed bag but I'd definitely say cash money is a better system. At the very least, it sounds like you YGO players are getting the bare minimum of prizes which sucks. Hope some of that nonsense was helpful, love the videos.
I was just thinking to pay 20 Dollars, give an OTS and an actuall booster and take 5 dollars of each player in a pot and thr top cuts get a proportinal part of that money. This would be a start. I dont need playmatts that prove i was there or dices, they are nice but thex are just cosmetic stuff and dont pay off for the hard work. I would love to see yugioh as proffesionall thing! Konami would gain way more attention and would also earn more money back. There is often a point where you don't get instant access to newq cards or decks so this would defintly help a lot. Konami pls give1 us cash prices 🙄
If you don’t top, you won’t get anything. So you’d still be out the money you paid to go. And like Paul said, if they offered cash prizes, there would be a lot of legal matters to handle. You think this game is expensive now? What do you think would happen if they offered cash prizes?
The Problem is the following: During corona some "pros" played events that werent hosted by konami in order to participate in anything. Those events had cash prices and better players now realize how great it is to be able to earn money for all the effort they put into the game. This leads to the following->good players will quit konami tournaments and will play those private hosted tournaments, because there they will get the money. With no cash prices konami is about to slowly ruin its tournament scene. Because yes there are other tournament-hosts with a lot of money that will use their tournament as marketing (deckboxes, sleeves,..) and offer money pricing. In my opinion konami has only 1 chance to not loose control and that is giving away good cash prices aswell. The pressure is definetly on konami right now. They might not want to add cash prices but they kinda have to or their tournaments die.
considering how much money it costs to build a competitive deck, cash prizes are a must. why drop 500 dollars on a deck, take the weekend off from work (lost income from not working) travel to the event (plane tickets are expensive as fuuuck) rent a hotel room (also expensive) pay to enter the tournament then deal with the stress of playing numerous ultra competitive try-hards just to win a box of sealed product where if you are lucky, might pull 1 card worth 100 dollars. fuck that. ain't worth the money. ain't worth the time. ain't worth the stress. ain't worth the smell.
In my opinion there is no excuse for yugioh to not have money prizes.Yes there are some negatives but the positives outweigh them. No, there are no legal problems, no there won't be no participation award. The only thong that should be charged are the top prizes nothing less nothing more, as having "pros" sell most of their prizes to cover their expences is straight up stupid.You guys do have a fair argument in that there might be more "ragging" and fighting at events but an opinion should not be excluded just because some players decide to behave unsportsmanlike.
I have to side with Cash Prizes in tournament for this argument. In the past, maybe one could argue that the player could trade the winning prizes for their expenses, but time changes. Travel fees, food and lodgings, everything is getting expensive, not to mention the time and money put into collecting the cards and testing the deck to compete. There has to be cash prizes at some points, especially in the much prestige/higher tier events, like the World Championship. Imagine getting to the top and getting some playmat and limited card and other trinkets, only to sell all that to cover up a year (or more) worth of investing to the game, that's just sad.
I spend the money I do on Yu-Gi-Oh! because I want the things for my collection and to participate in the experience. Comparing other communities I don’t want some of the things that come with cash prizing. I like the way our community is structured around its prizing. Nice level headed discussion.
Yeh i understand what you are trying to say but think about pc gamers they earn money not mouses and keyboards so yugioh should do the same i know that community maybe is going to change but i think konami just wants money and they think that we can print cards and keep all the money. I think when yugioh cards would be cheaper then maybe getting cards would not be so bad idea but right now cards cost like 80$ and when i build my deck its gonna cost like 240$ so i really want to win my money back somehow. Its just my opinion
I feel cash prizes will make the game more toxic. The players will be more selfish, and just not friendly cuz the stakes are raised. Those nice friendly duels and trades in-between matches would be gone. Theft would be on the rise and we would see more older crowd showing up for the money. Speaking from a player who has never topped anything before with years of playing, I feel the system they have now works fine
You're painting a really broad stroke there. Money does not automatically turn decent people into stupid assholes. If the result you claim will happen does happen, then the people in the community were garbage to begin with.
Yugioh has already been toxic especially with card prices leading to stealing, hustling etc the other games card prices dont even come close to what yugioh is
I feel like yugioh should have a money prize, however it would be considered a “gambling” esk game. Yugioh could even do two systems, a 21/o tournament for money, and a 12/u tournament for cards/mats, so that way they contribute for the younger players and that the older players can actually make money off of what they spend considering all the other expenses they have to do
How to avoid thief of your stuff. Bring spare clothes for the weekend, bring deodorant, dice, a notebook, pencils, and the one deck you intend on playing over the weekend.
I think that Konami are playing smart with prizes because they don't want to give away too much money and they would rather invest in prize cards if they did do money as a prize support then I agree that there would be a lot more fights break out
I think its because the top players get a following, that following can get them income rather it being a youtube channel, or them growing a channel or some type of following. While I want cash prizes, I just want better prize support, its awful rn. If you win a world championship card on the other hand like minerva thats great to sell but thats really it.
@@Rob-b2q8p That is also true, and comparing it to other card games like magic, it seems like its working out just fine. I may do a video on this topic later on my channel, it seems like a good topic and would love if konami buffed their prize support, especially scholarships.
Konami could sidestep the costs of giving cash prizes up front, the legal issues and other things if, instead of cash prizes, they give the winners highly prized and rare YuGiOh memoribilia. We all know how much some cards can be worth, so if the winner of a YCS got a card like how the world champions do that's going to be worth a fee thousand dollars then I think that would be a great compromise.
money would cause issues in the player base. since gambling laws differ from state to state [some states its 18 others its 21] that can really limit the number of players that can legally enter the event, konami would most likely have to host a mega regional every event to accomodate the other players. personally i would want konami to spend the money to host more events in bigger locals like nyc. the javitis center would be the best place since just the lower level alone can host one area for the main event, another for side events, the third for the vendors. if there is a need to hold another ycs like what happened in germany, there is room enough to do that too. they could even host scripted duels/finals on the main stage of the javitis center.
EVEN if they offer money prizes, it would NOT be gambling, even legally speaking. It doesn't at all fall even remotely close to the definition of gambling.
I know my local gives out booster boxes for winning the tournament. You can always sell the cards you get out the box for some profit. I believe in major tournaments you can win gaming systems too you can always sell those as well.
doesnt like the idea of monetary prizes and yet makes a million dollar payout the primary motivation for one of the main characters in the first season. seems legit.
Walter Lopez Joey’s incentive to get the money wasn’t based upon greed or getting his travel or deck building funds back though. It was a noble cause; paying for an operation his sister desperately needed that they couldn’t afford otherwise.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Players complain about aftermarket card prizes a lot, adding cash prizes would raise the aftermarket prices so much. It’s only motivation for grown adults to compete but not for kids
The way to to take yugioh to the next level is to bring in more players, which in my opinion needs to be a major investment in an arena with technology as close to the cartoon arenas as possible. Each card would be preprogrammed with a chip that defines the peramiters of that character. And an A.I. to determine the interactions between cards, based on tournament rules. This would take millions to create, but it could be done in a stadium setting like an NBA game and tickets sold, and spectacular battle displays so that it could be televised.
I think that, in any game (card/board/video/others) tournament, if it is a big or not, there has to be some good prizes to winners. And if there is a money prize, cheque is always a bad idea, because someone can easily steal that peace of paper. And if i can choose, that what prizes i want to win, if i am one of winners, i choose money and stuff, that i liked to have/get/need (because if i get a stuff that i don't need and i wanna sell it, there is no 100% sure, that someone want's to buy that stuff).
No cash prizes is fine by me. Takahashi isn't in favor of that and he made gambling seem evil based on season zero. Maybe there can be more prizes that aren't cash other than that it's fine.
Cortez Pates but like Paul said, than it becomes too heavy. If you don’t top, you’re not going to recoup your expenses anyway. At least with how it is now, you could sell the exclusive stuff and get some of your money back
@@kypli1511 there is no logic in you selling your prize to the aftermarket to try to cover your expences. I live in greece and to go to a ycs my flight and accommodation costs around 1.500€. Believe me, cash prizes is smth the game needs. The only problem with them is "cheaters" and shark rulers but one option shouldn't be excluded just because some people decide to behave with unsportsmanlike behavior and unethically.
I mean currently the prize support is fine these prize cards you can win go for a lot of money. On top of winning mats, deck boxs, sleeves, ps4 they all have as much value as the money you could win. Not to mention entery prizes. I think its fine as it is no change is needed
The money shift excuse is pure bs. Komoney makes plenty of $$$ from their products which fly off shelves even with their halfassed marketing. Not only that, the pull rates in Yugioh r trash, especially compared to mtg and pokemon where u at least are guaranteed multiple money cards in one box. Yugioh booster boxes u MIGHT, get the good secret if not then u got the ass SR card and worthless bulk. This shows u how much Konami is making just from cheatin ppl that buy their products. They can sure af be able to give out money prizes, they just dnt want to
Honestly? I don't consider it competition if there's no money involved. That's why Yu-gi-oh will always be 4fun 2 me. I've played Magic competitively, and all of it is better than the Yu-gi-oh competitive scene.
MTG costs a lot more then Yu-Gi-Oh. So cash prizes is better for your game. Don't try to deny how much more expensive it is because I too play magic. MTG has like 13 different banlists and you can only use card printed from x-year to x-year. Meaning you have to constantly buy cards from new sets to be competitive. In Yu-Gi-Oh, you skill comes from knowing how to build a deck same in Magic. The meta game here in Yu-Gi-Oh is just trash. They hurt a lot of decks to force us to buy stuff we don't want or need. Instead of cash prizes they need to work on decks they left behind.
If you think yugioh and the tcg meta is bad, repetative or disgusting competitive now imagine if you could win thousands of dollars as a cash prize. Itd be mayhem
There needs to be cash prizes in this game I don't want a box for winning a big regional cuz it's just a bunch of cards I already have. The mat and deck box are pointless cuz I can just buy it online for a pretty good price. Other card games do cash prizes and it's perfectly fine Yu-Gi-Oh and Dragon Ball Super are the only ones that don't. It's super annoying.
I agree, especially when it comes to prizes. No prizes just for entering and the entry fee would probably go up. So you’d pay more money for a CHANCE to win money. And if you don’t top, than it was a waste of time. Whereas if it stays how it is, you get cool stuff whether you too or not and if you’re more inclined to recoup your expenses, than you could just sell the prizes you got
It wouldn’t be much of a problem if we had the rarity schemes of the ocg. The money thing wouldn’t necessarily be a problem and more people on the casual level would be more willing to attend events to increase either a prize pool or for them to change prizing in general.
Since the ocg got Nebula neos, what will the Tcg get as a replacement since we already have nebula neos? The trend in the duelist box is that everyone got 3 new cards. Meaning so far, everyone has 3 new cards except jaden in the tcg For duel power. What do you all think will be the third card for jaden?
@@michaelcho3564 Because Kazuki Tkashi doesn't like the idea of cash prizes and he is the one who owns yu-gi-oh not Konami, Konami only has a license to publish the game
Local shops around me have tried cash tournaments before. It never works, always flops. Idk the exact reasoning behind this, but that's just how it is. One shop even held a 5k, winner take all sort of event.. Something like 7 players showed up. Total bust.
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It sucks they cant give cash prizes, because kazuki said he did not want cash prizes, maybe that will change it the future if people went to him or a couple big youtubers talked to him that would be cool. I just want some improvement to prize support. TCG scholarships are not exactly money prizes, would love to advance my career without going into years of debt. Another idea off the top of my head is more types of prize cards or a rarity that could not be obtained besides winning. I know top 32 mats can go for some decent cash depending the event and art, like a 300 dollar mat is cool and I know lots of players who bought theres, so I assume selling those are some money. Awesome topic overall, might wanna do a video on this later if I get enough ideas to add something new to the discussion.
I think the way it is now is perfect cause it’s cheap for Konami to print the stuff but the prices of them are higher so when you sell them not the fact that you might make more money but the fact that it costs less to meek it so we can get more cards and better card stock
MTG has cash prizes for its events and doesn't have any of the issues you brought up in your video. While these things do happen, they are extremely rare and as you pointed out, many of these things still do happen in yugioh without the cash prizes. Large MTG events almost always have a free playmat just for playing in them aswell so I don't see why they would have to pick one or the other. I know several friends who have given up yugioh and started playing MTG instead because it's cash prizes allow decks to pay for themselves which makes investing in the game much easier.
I would think they should do that since the players spent money to buy the cards, travel expenses, eating. Like that is already a lot so maybe just a little bit of money.
Simple answer - yes. For the money people pay to play they should receive some compensation . If you can’t play for free, they shouldn’t expect you to continue to play for free
I think it should be for first, second third. They could increase prices for events. Cheating will always be prevalent no matter what. If people are already traveling to another city and paying for a hotel, would that not already possibly give some incentive to cheat? The other option is to just make the cards they give out playable. I'd like that more. It would make it feel like you actually won something. I'd have no problem if someone won a ycs and showed up one day with a really broken card. If they limit it to 1 per ycs, it would be such a limited print and odds of encountering would be so slim anyways so let them have some benefit of winning once.
Okay but, for instance, let's say Thunder Dragon Colossus was a prize card. Depending on where the cut off would be, 1-32 players would have this insanely broken card for their thunder dragon deck, where the rest of the player base would not. So these 32 players would have a massive advantage over anyone else in future tournaments. And then you would have a similar top 32 at every tournament since these players have such an advantage, and nobody wants that.
@@andrewmarx9605 I wasn't suggesting top 32 get the card, just the winner. Just who comes in first. In my opinion only top 8 should get anything at all.
I wish it was like the anime, I know that’s a lot to ask, but like, if everyone came to duel because they enjoy it, then the prize money could be a bonus of sorts and I love dueling a lot and I would go to something like that just for fun and the money would be a bonus.
Well, “Why is there no money at YCS events?!” Is something that has been talked about years ago. Like I heard a Rumor saying Kazuki Takahashi strictly says Yugioh tournaments shouldn’t have prize money because it would make the community toxic. Well.....Too late for that! It already is! My reason for it is that If there is money involved, it would something called “Rigged Gambling”. Basically, The Competition is has a high prize value, and everyone does what ever it takes to win, even CHEATING! Like what if you stole a card because it can fetch a high price, or Vendors ripping people off with unfair prices? That would be any Yugioh tournament in a nutshell if! Money was included as the prizes. Good thing I’m only not playing anymore, but I play a different game! That is actually fair!
"Cash prizes makes it top heavy".. I mean that's what tournaments are for anyway right? As the saying goes "The cream rises to the top" How many First placers said "well I didn't come here for the prize, I'm just here for fun, huehue". And how many casuals won a tournament? Barely, because the top players almost always meet each other at the end... They should get rewarded with more than just "card boards" and bragging rights.. Official YuGiOh tourney is the only "BIG" tournament that I know of that doesn't offer cash prize.. The creator is so hypocritical because he just wants to keep the money to himself.. But then again, what kind of businessman doesn't? NONE..
It needs more money cause I think if u spend a lot of money to compete then u should get some monetary value cause card packs and merchandise are nice but it doesn’t doesn’t pay bills. Then again this is coming from a smash player so what do I know
People need to realize that cash prizes are necessary in today's world. Even if you are casual. This will make the game grow. I don't give a shit about some mat. Yugioh only cares about selling cards.
That 's ironic konami and vendors sell their product pricy as fuck but when it comes to support players They have a $10.00 deck box and a $12.00 playmat but guess what my investment in the game is higher than $22.00 please!!!
There's no downside to having monetary earnings. Firstly, cheating and theft is not tolerable at monetary events compared to prize events so actually it would decrease as you can be arrested at monetary events unlike prize events. You literally just make a cut spread and increase the costs for entry to give packs and mats but free packs aren't good cause it means last place could end up leaving with a better prize than first. Also it has the same tax deductable so all you have to do to cancel out those extra charges is increase entry prices
I remember back in 2002-2005 it was cash prizes and didn’t have any problems. I still play yugioh and I was at YCS Atlanta 3v3 but now I play mtg also for 5 years and seeing both sides of the aisle now days cash is much better for both the player and the game. Let’s face it there are bad people out there an If they are going to steal they will cash prizes or not. Mtg Grand Prix has the best pay out 1st place staring at $10000 an on down. the series I play most is star city games with 1st $5000,2nd and 3rd $2000, all the way down to 64 still getting $100 and you get a free play mat and token if you pre registered not a bad deal.
Corporate sponcers and investors help with the pize support. Konami needs more of that in order for them to do better prize support. The investments in konami are going on reguardless but the more the better.
I'm with the people who think that Konami should at least talk to Takahashi-san and see if he'd be willing to allow the company to offer scholarships to top placers like the Pokémon tournaments do. At least that way, it's worth it in some way without being a straight up cash prize.
Maybe not cash prizing, but I definitely feel like there should be better prizing support. The prize gap between making 1st-4th place in a YCS compared to the rest of the top cuts are ridiculous. But I feel like I am one of the very few people who enjoys playing yugioh for the fun of it, and topping is a personal satisfaction I get without needing a prize or cash to feel good about.
I would like it to be a sport with good rewards so that people can be more compitative in the game. They can make different leagues for different age groups.
So, It has a a lot of problems to add cash prize support. It has to be executed correctly and has to have foresight, they need to create a plan and make steps towards in acting it, instead of just rolling out a mess with a lot of problems, and involve the player base a long the way. At first the prize support wouldn't be what people want, because it should be attendance based. maybe a total of a 3k purse for top based on average attendance for a YCS. Including the player base is important because of the options to pay for this change. One would be not providing packs at registration. Casual players won't like this, secondary market will increase with less cards in circulation. The first option i think has to happen along with the second thing that needs to happen, and that is by increasing the entry by 10-15 dollars. This makes the mats provided have a higher value for those that didnt attend. Also I think promo cards should be included with registration. Make an alt art card or special rarity for Competitive events where for instance you get a YCS thanos, that wont hurt the price of thanos much in this example, and it helps supplement the cost of attending a YCS by choosing to sell the promo and mat, or at that point you're gaining merch you will use just for attending. the increase in attendance isn't just good for the game and company growth but also for prize support. if you have 2000 players attending a ycs the prize purse could be something close to 50k, and pay all the way down to like the top 300. Getting a invite, like 50 bucks, a promo, and a mat covers the cost depending on how you had to travel. One down side, but maybe a upside to the more competitive fan base is that getting a invite will get harder, and they might decrease the amount of players they give invites to at the same time.
But if I can't win a million dollars by playing Yugioh, then how will I pay for my sisters eye surgery?
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I would say at least Scholarships if not Cash Prizing.... Give opportuniy for at least players to go to school, get better jobs, earn more money to buy more of your product.... Comes full circle.
I'm sixteen and that would be a god send. Lot's of players are in there older teens to young twenties so it would make since. I think it would definitely help alot of them but what would that bring to the table? College tuition in the US is absurd compared to other countries and it would be very much resticted to the top 4 players and could put a hole in tge games budget also it could hurt the educational system as a whole cause kids would actually try to play it more to try and get scholar ships and more people wouldn't really pay attention to actual school. Also Yugioh takes alot of skill do high schoolers who aren't very good could get pissy if they lose since high schoolers tend to be more competitive when it comes to that kind of stuff. Also some students might not be able to travel to those events with lack of money or school days. As much as I would love that it's very impractical.
@@EndingAbyss165 all what you said make sense, but Pokemon tcg says "nah-ah"
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I love what you suggested! I never thought of that, damn! Awesome. I want that now HAHAHAHAHAAH
@@braddtheodd3390 that is how Pokemon tcg works
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"What kind of crowd would that bring in", Bandit Keith players
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@@Swappingfrogs mo money mo ass
okay so on the grounds of taxation its this can be more of a taxable write off for them, but outside of that if money is involved konami will need to "tighten" how players act both inside and outside the tourney to ensure things are kept under control(like hiring extra security, referees for both rulings and monitoring) but that's just me
In Pokemon who ever win regionals get $5000, a Nintendo switch ,a champion mat ,6 booster boxes,and a champion trophy. Second place gets $2500 and the same ,3rd place $1500 same, 4th gets $1000 same.
Everybody else all the way to top 48 gets $250 and 2 booster boxes. Yugioh really need change.
@@spacemanmusic9919 thanks for the break down
Yugioh needs cash prizes; yugioh is so much more expensive compared to other card games and there's little to no cash prize support.
Zedrick Jaramillo yu gi oh would probably get even more expensive if there were cash prizes. It’s probably why Magic cards are so much
@@kypli1511 actually magic usually isn't that bad from what I heard. Usually. In recent times, I heard it's gotten pretty bad basically because standard got really... Awkward I guess. See the whole problemfest with Nexus of fate red rush, and tefiri, but in healthier times for Magic, the price of Standard I don't think was as bad as it can be for YGO.
Also it's very hard to say at the same time though, because Magic has basically always had cash prizes so there's nothing to go by. However, one could test it.
If Wizards announced that they would no longer do cash prizes would the prices of decks on the 2ndary market drop? Presumably so, because you'd have the 'netdeckers' who were playing those top tier decks for the purpose of winning said cash prize no longer incentized to play, and thus they don't buy those singles, leading to less demand. However, this will only affect the price IF enough players are no longer interested in building those decks enough to force the price to go down. AKA, if people keep buying the decks anyway, the price won't really go down. All that's happen is that you'd lose part of the crowd. But as long as you have a critical mass of people that will buy the cards and participate in the events to win (it's not like no prize support will take 100% of attendance) then things will remain the same.
I would argue the same is true for YGO in a vice versa fashion. Adding cash prizes just means that those who go to YCSs to compete for them might be more willing to pay more to get better cards and decks. That doesn't necessarily reflect the much bigger casual market. Adding cash prizes will only successfully raise the price if enough people consistently buy the cards for that higher price. If people don't buy, the price will stay where it has been at it's equilibrium. Sure you might be justified to charge higher, but if no one buys, you're not really getting anywhere. What I mean to say is that by trying to milk money from.the smaller competitive player base, vendors would be losing the money they could be getting from those who don't care about going to YCSs. You'd sell 100 copies for 200$ when you could sell 1000 copies for 100$. That matters when you have stock that just sitting there aging and gradually losing relevance and value.
Don't forget about the fundamentals of econ peeps!
Rinkamime oh, people would pay the prices. They already pay $90 for one card. Team APS actually did a video on it. And they said “ well if you won’t pay that price, someone else will”
It's funny that in their Anime, Dueling is actually a profession that people can make lives off of. So they hint at that possibility but you have to consider what it would mean if they gave cash prize support. Currently, they make money from printing cardboard and rubber mats. If they changed their support to actual money, the amount of profit they make will significantly decrease. As a company, it doesn't seem like a logical decision to incur such a change.
When Thanos Dragon is already $100😣
Yeah, didn't really until after recording just how much that card has skyrocketed! 😮
So, as someone who plays Magic the Gathering and has actually gotten prize money (though not consistently, I'm only "fine") I can give a little bit of data on how it's altered MtG. (Also, love the channel. I play YGO for casual fun so you guys are a wealth of info.)
Fights- There's roughly five major events a month, along with a handful of others. I have personally never seen a fight or something close outside of local stores. This is mostly due to how much support MtG for it's judge program- they're everywhere and foster a great atmosphere.
Participation prizes- So, I only play YGO very casually, but are playmats not normal? Every magic tourmament has playmats, usually sleeves, and a few other throw ins. Even local game story Friday Night Magic usually has some small prizes. From what you're saying, it sounds like you're already getting less.
Young players- This worry, man you're right to have. While the judges work hard to make tournaments welcoming for everyone, I rarely see any kids. It's definitely a young adult-adult game. I've even seen this carry over to FNM (I guess our version of locals?) where the average age is probably 25.
Theft- Another one where you're on the money. Theft is rampant at MtG tournaments, so much so that they sell deckboxes and backpacks advertised to help prevent theft (some even have GPS trackers in them.) I don't know how much there is in YGO to compare, but it's common at tournaments.
Other stuff- MtG pays for it's prize support out of admission and, mainly, it's advertising budget. That's why you never see commercials- tournament prizes are the commercials. Play MtG, make $$$. It doesn't count as gambling and requires little extra paperwork (though I've never run one so I could be offbase.) Winnings are taxed income though, so you have to pay attention to it. Magic also offers cards/paid flights/uncut sheets as prizes as well, so it's not an either/or proposition.
Travel- Do YGO tournaments not give out invites to the next event? That's really common. If nothing else, winning a YCS should get you a paid flight/hotel to the next one. They already get discounted prices at hotels for mass booking their own employees/staff, so it's insane that they don't. More than cash, if I were a good Yugioh player I would campaign for this. If top players can't get to events, of course they won't hit the top eight consistently. It's also great for the metagame, as it provides clearer data on what's good.
Teams- I don't know if this is a thing in YGO, but the advent of cash prizes made pro-teams a huge deal. People would join together, practice against one another, and help with deckbuilding to the point where pretty much every top eight player is on a testing team. A fair amount are sponsored as well. (It all comes back to advertising.)
Side Events- Because Magic tournaments are, by default, only a few people make day two, their biggest appeal is all of the side events. Artists are there signing/altering cards, stores have booths, and side events are huge. Mini-tournaments that exist separately from the main for smaller stakes. They also have play with the pros/celebrity events where each eight person pod will have some relevant celebrity or mtg youtuber in it (like you guys.)
All in all, it's a mixed bag but I'd definitely say cash money is a better system. At the very least, it sounds like you YGO players are getting the bare minimum of prizes which sucks. Hope some of that nonsense was helpful, love the videos.
This was very informative. Thanks!
I was just thinking to pay 20 Dollars, give an OTS and an actuall booster and take 5 dollars of each player in a pot and thr top cuts get a proportinal part of that money. This would be a start. I dont need playmatts that prove i was there or dices, they are nice but thex are just cosmetic stuff and dont pay off for the hard work. I would love to see yugioh as proffesionall thing! Konami would gain way more attention and would also earn more money back. There is often a point where you don't get instant access to newq cards or decks so this would defintly help a lot. Konami pls give1 us cash prices 🙄
for yuigoh to be so expensive having cash prizes should be mandatory they make so much money on us on the daily
Unfortunately Konami is not allowed to offer cash prices
Relux the Relux is there an national dueling association that says they can’t or something because if there isn’t then I don’t see why they cant
@@kingkonga8963 Its because of one man mainly, Kazuki Takahashi.
@@kingkonga8963 Because konami doesn't own yugioh, Kazuki Takahashi does, and he doesn't want Cash Prizes.
If you don’t top, you won’t get anything. So you’d still be out the money you paid to go. And like Paul said, if they offered cash prizes, there would be a lot of legal matters to handle. You think this game is expensive now? What do you think would happen if they offered cash prizes?
I thought they didn’t give cash support because the creator of the game said he didn’t want that
Well, yeah. But those that were discussed were in addition to the creator saying "NO" to cash prizes.
The Problem is the following: During corona some "pros" played events that werent hosted by konami in order to participate in anything. Those events had cash prices and better players now realize how great it is to be able to earn money for all the effort they put into the game. This leads to the following->good players will quit konami tournaments and will play those private hosted tournaments, because there they will get the money.
With no cash prices konami is about to slowly ruin its tournament scene. Because yes there are other tournament-hosts with a lot of money that will use their tournament as marketing (deckboxes, sleeves,..) and offer money pricing.
In my opinion konami has only 1 chance to not loose control and that is giving away good cash prices aswell. The pressure is definetly on konami right now. They might not want to add cash prices but they kinda have to or their tournaments die.
considering how much money it costs to build a competitive deck, cash prizes are a must. why drop 500 dollars on a deck, take the weekend off from work (lost income from not working) travel to the event (plane tickets are expensive as fuuuck) rent a hotel room (also expensive) pay to enter the tournament then deal with the stress of playing numerous ultra competitive try-hards just to win a box of sealed product where if you are lucky, might pull 1 card worth 100 dollars. fuck that. ain't worth the money. ain't worth the time. ain't worth the stress. ain't worth the smell.
In my opinion there is no excuse for yugioh to not have money prizes.Yes there are some negatives but the positives outweigh them. No, there are no legal problems, no there won't be no participation award. The only thong that should be charged are the top prizes nothing less nothing more, as having "pros" sell most of their prizes to cover their expences is straight up stupid.You guys do have a fair argument in that there might be more "ragging" and fighting at events but an opinion should not be excluded just because some players decide to behave unsportsmanlike.
I have to side with Cash Prizes in tournament for this argument. In the past, maybe one could argue that the player could trade the winning prizes for their expenses, but time changes. Travel fees, food and lodgings, everything is getting expensive, not to mention the time and money put into collecting the cards and testing the deck to compete. There has to be cash prizes at some points, especially in the much prestige/higher tier events, like the World Championship. Imagine getting to the top and getting some playmat and limited card and other trinkets, only to sell all that to cover up a year (or more) worth of investing to the game, that's just sad.
That’s cool, I never thought about how cash prizes would affect the cool stuff& packs that you get for entering!
They wouldn't affect them. Believe me, konami makes enough money to cover both the participation rewards and cash prizes.
Still can't believe Pokemon's World prize support is $25,000 for 1st place, and $15,000 for 2nd
Andrew Caraballo magic the gathering had a 1 million dollar tournament recently gg and 1st place wins 250k
I spend the money I do on Yu-Gi-Oh! because I want the things for my collection and to participate in the experience. Comparing other communities I don’t want some of the things that come with cash prizing.
I like the way our community is structured around its prizing. Nice level headed discussion.
*Konami giving out prize money?..... we have better luck with drawing blood from stone. lmao*
Yeh i understand what you are trying to say but think about pc gamers they earn money not mouses and keyboards so yugioh should do the same i know that community maybe is going to change but i think konami just wants money and they think that we can print cards and keep all the money. I think when yugioh cards would be cheaper then maybe getting cards would not be so bad idea but right now cards cost like 80$ and when i build my deck its gonna cost like 240$ so i really want to win my money back somehow. Its just my opinion
Are their sponsored players like in e sports? Do they get a salary and their expenses covered?
I feel cash prizes will make the game more toxic. The players will be more selfish, and just not friendly cuz the stakes are raised. Those nice friendly duels and trades in-between matches would be gone. Theft would be on the rise and we would see more older crowd showing up for the money. Speaking from a player who has never topped anything before with years of playing, I feel the system they have now works fine
You're painting a really broad stroke there. Money does not automatically turn decent people into stupid assholes. If the result you claim will happen does happen, then the people in the community were garbage to begin with.
Yugioh has already been toxic especially with card prices leading to stealing, hustling etc the other games card prices dont even come close to what yugioh is
I feel like yugioh should have a money prize, however it would be considered a “gambling” esk game. Yugioh could even do two systems, a 21/o tournament for money, and a 12/u tournament for cards/mats, so that way they contribute for the younger players and that the older players can actually make money off of what they spend considering all the other expenses they have to do
Im glad you're switching it up Paul. I like the group discussions but i still like these solo discussions. Keep it up 👍👍
How to avoid thief of your stuff. Bring spare clothes for the weekend, bring deodorant, dice, a notebook, pencils, and the one deck you intend on playing over the weekend.
If yugioh had cash prizes then it would increase cheating and the bribery of judges because they have so much to gain and barely anything to lose
I think that Konami are playing smart with prizes because they don't want to give away too much money and they would rather invest in prize cards if they did do money as a prize support then I agree that there would be a lot more fights break out
Prize cards aren't worth the paper they are printed on......
The funny thing is the players who yell loudest for cash prizes also don’t win events.
I think its because the top players get a following, that following can get them income rather it being a youtube channel, or them growing a channel or some type of following.
While I want cash prizes, I just want better prize support, its awful rn. If you win a world championship card on the other hand like minerva thats great to sell but thats really it.
Team Sakurasou
Maybe players that would win tournaments never consider playing because there is no cash prizes
@@Rob-b2q8p That is also true, and comparing it to other card games like magic, it seems like its working out just fine. I may do a video on this topic later on my channel, it seems like a good topic and would love if konami buffed their prize support, especially scholarships.
Hahahahahaha, good one.
Konami could sidestep the costs of giving cash prizes up front, the legal issues and other things if, instead of cash prizes, they give the winners highly prized and rare YuGiOh memoribilia. We all know how much some cards can be worth, so if the winner of a YCS got a card like how the world champions do that's going to be worth a fee thousand dollars then I think that would be a great compromise.
Right. That's actually largely what the current prizing system is, and it definitely works for the most part.
People cheat for mats, cards etc, people will always cheat even when money is not involved. Let people live out their dreams to play yugioh PRO
Obviously tournaments need cash prizes!!!!! How else r people going to pay for their sister’s eye operations! 😂
money would cause issues in the player base. since gambling laws differ from state to state [some states its 18 others its 21] that can really limit the number of players that can legally enter the event, konami would most likely have to host a mega regional every event to accomodate the other players.
personally i would want konami to spend the money to host more events in bigger locals like nyc. the javitis center would be the best place since just the lower level alone can host one area for the main event, another for side events, the third for the vendors. if there is a need to hold another ycs like what happened in germany, there is room enough to do that too. they could even host scripted duels/finals on the main stage of the javitis center.
EVEN if they offer money prizes, it would NOT be gambling, even legally speaking. It doesn't at all fall even remotely close to the definition of gambling.
I know my local gives out booster boxes for winning the tournament. You can always sell the cards you get out the box for some profit. I believe in major tournaments you can win gaming systems too you can always sell those as well.
The main reason is because Kazuki Takahashi didn’t like the idea of monetary prizes, so they do what they do now, out of respect for him.
doesnt like the idea of monetary prizes and yet makes a million dollar payout the primary motivation for one of the main characters in the first season. seems legit.
Walter Lopez Joey’s incentive to get the money wasn’t based upon greed or getting his travel or deck building funds back though. It was a noble cause; paying for an operation his sister desperately needed that they couldn’t afford otherwise.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Players complain about aftermarket card prizes a lot, adding cash prizes would raise the aftermarket prices so much. It’s only motivation for grown adults to compete but not for kids
Don’t care about cash prize because I’m never gonna win a ycs
Bruh, cash prizes will make the game grow and benefit everyone.
The way to to take yugioh to the next level is to bring in more players, which in my opinion needs to be a major investment in an arena with technology as close to the cartoon arenas as possible.
Each card would be preprogrammed with a chip that defines the peramiters of that character. And an A.I. to determine the interactions between cards, based on tournament rules.
This would take millions to create, but it could be done in a stadium setting like an NBA game and tickets sold, and spectacular battle displays so that it could be televised.
I think that, in any game (card/board/video/others) tournament, if it is a big or not, there has to be some good prizes to winners. And if there is a money prize, cheque is always a bad idea, because someone can easily steal that peace of paper.
And if i can choose, that what prizes i want to win, if i am one of winners, i choose money and stuff, that i liked to have/get/need (because if i get a stuff that i don't need and i wanna sell it, there is no 100% sure, that someone want's to buy that stuff).
No cash prizes is fine by me. Takahashi isn't in favor of that and he made gambling seem evil based on season zero. Maybe there can be more prizes that aren't cash other than that it's fine.
bruh all the travel ect they need cash prizes
Cortez Pates but like Paul said, than it becomes too heavy. If you don’t top, you’re not going to recoup your expenses anyway. At least with how it is now, you could sell the exclusive stuff and get some of your money back
@@kypli1511 there is no logic in you selling your prize to the aftermarket to try to cover your expences. I live in greece and to go to a ycs my flight and accommodation costs around 1.500€. Believe me, cash prizes is smth the game needs. The only problem with them is "cheaters" and shark rulers but one option shouldn't be excluded just because some people decide to behave with unsportsmanlike behavior and unethically.
The winner should get two copys of there deck. one deck is made of gold holos like gold painted cards. The second deck could be framed.
I mean currently the prize support is fine these prize cards you can win go for a lot of money. On top of winning mats, deck boxs, sleeves, ps4 they all have as much value as the money you could win. Not to mention entery prizes. I think its fine as it is no change is needed
Why does it look like sonic is holding a photoshoped Xbox controller
The money shift excuse is pure bs. Komoney makes plenty of $$$ from their products which fly off shelves even with their halfassed marketing. Not only that, the pull rates in Yugioh r trash, especially compared to mtg and pokemon where u at least are guaranteed multiple money cards in one box. Yugioh booster boxes u MIGHT, get the good secret if not then u got the ass SR card and worthless bulk. This shows u how much Konami is making just from cheatin ppl that buy their products. They can sure af be able to give out money prizes, they just dnt want to
Honestly? I don't consider it competition if there's no money involved. That's why Yu-gi-oh will always be 4fun 2 me. I've played Magic competitively, and all of it is better than the Yu-gi-oh competitive scene.
MTG costs a lot more then Yu-Gi-Oh. So cash prizes is better for your game. Don't try to deny how much more expensive it is because I too play magic. MTG has like 13 different banlists and you can only use card printed from x-year to x-year. Meaning you have to constantly buy cards from new sets to be competitive. In Yu-Gi-Oh, you skill comes from knowing how to build a deck same in Magic. The meta game here in Yu-Gi-Oh is just trash. They hurt a lot of decks to force us to buy stuff we don't want or need. Instead of cash prizes they need to work on decks they left behind.
If you think yugioh and the tcg meta is bad, repetative or disgusting competitive now imagine if you could win thousands of dollars as a cash prize. Itd be mayhem
Perhaps.
There needs to be cash prizes in this game I don't want a box for winning a big regional cuz it's just a bunch of cards I already have. The mat and deck box are pointless cuz I can just buy it online for a pretty good price. Other card games do cash prizes and it's perfectly fine Yu-Gi-Oh and Dragon Ball Super are the only ones that don't. It's super annoying.
I agree, especially when it comes to prizes. No prizes just for entering and the entry fee would probably go up. So you’d pay more money for a CHANCE to win money. And if you don’t top, than it was a waste of time. Whereas if it stays how it is, you get cool stuff whether you too or not and if you’re more inclined to recoup your expenses, than you could just sell the prizes you got
can we just appreciate the sonic holding the controller
It wouldn’t be much of a problem if we had the rarity schemes of the ocg. The money thing wouldn’t necessarily be a problem and more people on the casual level would be more willing to attend events to increase either a prize pool or for them to change prizing in general.
Since the ocg got Nebula neos, what will the Tcg get as a replacement since we already have nebula neos? The trend in the duelist box is that everyone got 3 new cards. Meaning so far, everyone has 3 new cards except jaden in the tcg For duel power. What do you all think will be the third card for jaden?
Discussing about cash prizes is irrelevant because Konami is not allowed to offer them
Really? Why?
Yes, why?
@@michaelcho3564 Because Kazuki Tkashi doesn't like the idea of cash prizes and he is the one who owns yu-gi-oh not Konami, Konami only has a license to publish the game
The fact that certain cards are very expensive to build a competitive deck, cash prizes aren't so bad for tournament winners.
Local shops around me have tried cash tournaments before. It never works, always flops. Idk the exact reasoning behind this, but that's just how it is. One shop even held a 5k, winner take all sort of event.. Something like 7 players showed up. Total bust.
Did you film ur trip?
When upperdeck ran yugi that prize pack was insane
Hey I'm a huge fan and I want to know if you can make a video on how your group got started what does each member give to the group and what you look for on your members ?
It sucks they cant give cash prizes, because kazuki said he did not want cash prizes, maybe that will change it the future if people went to him or a couple big youtubers talked to him that would be cool.
I just want some improvement to prize support. TCG scholarships are not exactly money prizes, would love to advance my career without going into years of debt. Another idea off the top of my head is more types of prize cards or a rarity that could not be obtained besides winning. I know top 32 mats can go for some decent cash depending the event and art, like a 300 dollar mat is cool and I know lots of players who bought theres, so I assume selling those are some money. Awesome topic overall, might wanna do a video on this later if I get enough ideas to add something new to the discussion.
I think the way it is now is perfect cause it’s cheap for Konami to print the stuff but the prices of them are higher so when you sell them not the fact that you might make more money but the fact that it costs less to meek it so we can get more cards and better card stock
let us know how the 3v3 goes! My friends and I are very interested in seeing how this plays out.
Money means more Chaos. Some players can bribe judges.
At a regional I had to report a bribery from my opponent for a lunalight effect. He got disqualified 👍
Where decks can cost close to $1000, there is no excuse for there to be no prize money support.
MTG has cash prizes for its events and doesn't have any of the issues you brought up in your video. While these things do happen, they are extremely rare and as you pointed out, many of these things still do happen in yugioh without the cash prizes. Large MTG events almost always have a free playmat just for playing in them aswell so I don't see why they would have to pick one or the other. I know several friends who have given up yugioh and started playing MTG instead because it's cash prizes allow decks to pay for themselves which makes investing in the game much easier.
I would think they should do that since the players spent money to buy the cards, travel expenses, eating. Like that is already a lot so maybe just a little bit of money.
Simple answer - yes. For the money people pay to play they should receive some compensation . If you can’t play for free, they shouldn’t expect you to continue to play for free
cash prizes would turn yugioh events into EVO thuggery
Every other game for the most part has way better prizes than Yu-Gi-Oh and it's sad.
I think it should be for first, second third. They could increase prices for events. Cheating will always be prevalent no matter what. If people are already traveling to another city and paying for a hotel, would that not already possibly give some incentive to cheat? The other option is to just make the cards they give out playable. I'd like that more. It would make it feel like you actually won something. I'd have no problem if someone won a ycs and showed up one day with a really broken card. If they limit it to 1 per ycs, it would be such a limited print and odds of encountering would be so slim anyways so let them have some benefit of winning once.
Okay but, for instance, let's say Thunder Dragon Colossus was a prize card. Depending on where the cut off would be, 1-32 players would have this insanely broken card for their thunder dragon deck, where the rest of the player base would not. So these 32 players would have a massive advantage over anyone else in future tournaments. And then you would have a similar top 32 at every tournament since these players have such an advantage, and nobody wants that.
@@andrewmarx9605 I wasn't suggesting top 32 get the card, just the winner. Just who comes in first. In my opinion only top 8 should get anything at all.
@@jordanskyba8287 But it still gives that player an unfair advantage, and I think konami wants a game where there is a level playing field.
@@andrewmarx9605 I'd rather it be slightly in favor of those who win big events so that it feels like winning actually matters.
I wish it was like the anime, I know that’s a lot to ask, but like, if everyone came to duel because they enjoy it, then the prize money could be a bonus of sorts and I love dueling a lot and I would go to something like that just for fun and the money would be a bonus.
Well, “Why is there no money at YCS events?!” Is something that has been talked about years ago. Like I heard a Rumor saying Kazuki Takahashi strictly says Yugioh tournaments shouldn’t have prize money because it would make the community toxic. Well.....Too late for that! It already is!
My reason for it is that If there is money involved, it would something called “Rigged Gambling”. Basically, The Competition is has a high prize value, and everyone does what ever it takes to win, even CHEATING! Like what if you stole a card because it can fetch a high price, or Vendors ripping people off with unfair prices? That would be any Yugioh tournament in a nutshell if! Money was included as the prizes.
Good thing I’m only not playing anymore, but I play a different game! That is actually fair!
"Cash prizes makes it top heavy".. I mean that's what tournaments are for anyway right?
As the saying goes "The cream rises to the top"
How many First placers said "well I didn't come here for the prize, I'm just here for fun, huehue".
And how many casuals won a tournament? Barely, because the top players almost always meet each other at the end...
They should get rewarded with more than just "card boards" and bragging rights..
Official YuGiOh tourney is the only "BIG" tournament that I know of that doesn't offer cash prize..
The creator is so hypocritical because he just wants to keep the money to himself.. But then again, what kind of businessman doesn't? NONE..
It needs more money cause I think if u spend a lot of money to compete then u should get some monetary value cause card packs and merchandise are nice but it doesn’t doesn’t pay bills. Then again this is coming from a smash player so what do I know
A Yu-Gu-Oh! Card Game LiveStream Channel?? That'd be as good as the Watching Paint Dry Channel!
A possible issue with getting cash prizes is that you'd have to claim it as income/pay taxes on it. So your $1000 prize money may be more like $800.
Depends on the country and also depends on whether they can file that as taxless money.
I mean, there is the PPT events that give out cash prizes
Cash money prizes causing problems is a pretty obvious thing, some yugioh players already have a must win complex as it is.
My friend was the guy who's car got broken into at nats last year it was a sad time
That sliver RUclips plate is looking nice!
People need to realize that cash prizes are necessary in today's world. Even if you are casual. This will make the game grow. I don't give a shit about some mat. Yugioh only cares about selling cards.
I think at the very least the top, say, 8 should have all-expenses-paid trips to the next YCS.
Are we allowed to sell the prize card we win for cash?
Pegasus is afraid to get shot for the prize money.
That 's ironic konami and vendors sell their product pricy as fuck but when it comes to support players They have a $10.00 deck box and a $12.00 playmat but guess what my investment in the game is higher than $22.00 please!!!
There's no downside to having monetary earnings.
Firstly, cheating and theft is not tolerable at monetary events compared to prize events so actually it would decrease as you can be arrested at monetary events unlike prize events.
You literally just make a cut spread and increase the costs for entry to give packs and mats but free packs aren't good cause it means last place could end up leaving with a better prize than first.
Also it has the same tax deductable so all you have to do to cancel out those extra charges is increase entry prices
Also they're only worth what someone wants for them, the current prizes, if Konami went under tomorrow, the money for them prize cards would be zero
I remember back in 2002-2005 it was cash prizes and didn’t have any problems. I still play yugioh and I was at YCS Atlanta 3v3 but now I play mtg also for 5 years and seeing both sides of the aisle now days cash is much better for both the player and the game. Let’s face it there are bad people out there an If they are going to steal they will cash prizes or not. Mtg Grand Prix has the best pay out 1st place staring at $10000 an on down. the series I play most is star city games with 1st $5000,2nd and 3rd $2000, all the way down to 64 still getting $100 and you get a free play mat and token if you pre registered not a bad deal.
If having a cash prize makes yugioh more popular then I'm all for that. I hate people seeing my cards and thinking they're pokemon cards...
Corporate sponcers and investors help with the pize support. Konami needs more of that in order for them to do better prize support. The investments in konami are going on reguardless but the more the better.
I'm with the people who think that Konami should at least talk to Takahashi-san and see if he'd be willing to allow the company to offer scholarships to top placers like the Pokémon tournaments do. At least that way, it's worth it in some way without being a straight up cash prize.
Maybe not cash prizing, but I definitely feel like there should be better prizing support. The prize gap between making 1st-4th place in a YCS compared to the rest of the top cuts are ridiculous. But I feel like I am one of the very few people who enjoys playing yugioh for the fun of it, and topping is a personal satisfaction I get without needing a prize or cash to feel good about.
One monetary tournament with winners of recent ycs winners
Prize cards seems to be worth a decent amount of money. I’m curious how fast they sell though.
You know what, I just want to make a good deck because, I don't want to just run random cards like I am right now, but at least I get to play the game
Card prizes would increase? nope magic has cash prizes, and non collection cards cost kinda the same. and they dont reprint at all expensive cards.
I would like it to be a sport with good rewards so that people can be more compitative in the game. They can make different leagues for different age groups.
Pokemon has a good amount of wall and winning prizes when you top.
Cash prizes would drive the price of the game up even further. Meta relevant cards would double in price
So, It has a a lot of problems to add cash prize support. It has to be executed correctly and has to have foresight, they need to create a plan and make steps towards in acting it, instead of just rolling out a mess with a lot of problems, and involve the player base a long the way. At first the prize support wouldn't be what people want, because it should be attendance based. maybe a total of a 3k purse for top based on average attendance for a YCS. Including the player base is important because of the options to pay for this change. One would be not providing packs at registration. Casual players won't like this, secondary market will increase with less cards in circulation. The first option i think has to happen along with the second thing that needs to happen, and that is by increasing the entry by 10-15 dollars. This makes the mats provided have a higher value for those that didnt attend. Also I think promo cards should be included with registration. Make an alt art card or special rarity for Competitive events where for instance you get a YCS thanos, that wont hurt the price of thanos much in this example, and it helps supplement the cost of attending a YCS by choosing to sell the promo and mat, or at that point you're gaining merch you will use just for attending. the increase in attendance isn't just good for the game and company growth but also for prize support. if you have 2000 players attending a ycs the prize purse could be something close to 50k, and pay all the way down to like the top 300. Getting a invite, like 50 bucks, a promo, and a mat covers the cost depending on how you had to travel. One down side, but maybe a upside to the more competitive fan base is that getting a invite will get harder, and they might decrease the amount of players they give invites to at the same time.
Well I don't need to be concerned about wether there is a million dollar prize for winning or not since I don't win anyway :D
Most likely a not very efficient idea since it's a physical, tangible event.
Even if we don’t get money ... give us better prizes
HAH! $60 phantazmay. Your funny, Paul.