OMG!!!! "There's only so many ways you can tie knots in a string!" Seriously? I might add here, as a fully paid up member of 'The International Guild of Knot Tyers' I hold you personally responsible for the lost hour of my time spent mopping the milky coco residues off my lap top, ejected mid sip as you uttered THOSE words. Referring to my hallowed tome of, ' The Ashley Book Of Knots' by Clifford. W. Ashley, or 'ABOK' to those in the know, I see there are no less than 3854 ways of knotting a cord, and growing, that doesn't include the Chinese decorative knots of which the Chang Pang, the knot you showed us, is only one. Might I recommend the book, 'Chinese Knotting' by Lydia Chen, I honestly reckon you'd love it, far more complex contrivances than the overhand knot performed whilst knotting, Knotting, per Purcell, so to speak, or the half hitches right and left beloved of those, - - - - -those tatter types, LOL. A fun fact. The high end sailing ships, both merchantmen and men o war, of the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries are considered to be the most complex mechanisms of their time and the only reason they worked was because of knots in cordage. From the weave knots in the linen sails to the stopper knots, manrope knots, and buntline hitches et al, of the running rigging, not to mention the splices, jib knots and carricks for foot mats and bump mats, all used quite literally in deadly earnest and most used to decorate, adorn and relieve boredom in equal measure. So young woman, scoff at the knot at your own peril, they are the stuff of empires and brave souls, not to mention bored ones, who have forged the world we know. I put to you, where would we be without the the humble cardie, or Arran tank top and their knit 1 pearl 1 knots born of boredom and necessity, I mean, there are only so many furry critters you can skin for that luscious cami top, so comfortable to wear both outdoors and around the cave. Take it easy luv, I subscribed BTW, I love your content, not to mention the delivery, best regards, Matt W.
@@matthewwigley1613 I prostrate myself at your feet for the slander I have committed towards knots and apologise for your laptop - I should clarify: there's only so many ways to tie that specific type of knot in a string. I wouldn't dare claim knowledge of all the different knots (which I, admittedly, know very little of). You truly sound like an absolute hoot and I wholeheartedly appreciate you weighing in, you've made my day and I feel thoroughly admonished ❤️
@@SongSpinnerUK Your more than welcome, but it is I who should thankyou for the time and effort you put into posting, it isn't something I could do and I have learnt so much from you that I wouldn't have known about otherwise. Seriously though, if you get a chance to look at the Chinese knotting book take it, there are some amazing contrivances in there which can be used as buttons or just adornments, plus it's just plain interesting. I enjoyed your singing by the way. Purcell is one of my favourites and your voice matches that genre just right. Take it easy luv, best regards, Matt.
U might be interested in a craft called nalbinding. It is the precursor to knitting and is basically knotting. It is what socks were orig made from and fishing nets and many useful items, incl modern day camel muzzles in the middle east. It goes back at least 10thousand yrs that we know of but prob way way way farther back. Almost every culture has a history of this in some form. It is really cool. Instead of using 2 needles to knit or a hook to crochet, u use a flat needle and short length of yarn (I prefer about 2-3 metres at a time) that u splice together, and u use ur thumb or the needle to basically loop specific type knots to create a very thick and durable fabric.
@@suzz1776 Thanks for letting me know about this, I haven't heard about it before by name, I'll do some research and have a go. It's odd that you should mention this activity because I've been pondering of late and reminiscing about the knitting lessons I had from my old mum, many moons ago, when I was only very small. She had a way of casting on which I could never master and by the way you describe your binding it was the exact same thing. From what I can remember she would use her thumb like a needle onto which she would form stitches and then cast each stitch in turn from the thumb onto a needle. At that age I couldn't really make it out properly, but I wish now that I had paid more attention. I have also been pondering about the tatting activity, thingy, using a shuttle and it occurred to me that it is very similar to net making, wherein a knot is cast but a loose loop is formed with each knot in order to form the net, I really need to go back and check it out again to see exactly how it is done. Like your nalbinding, net making using a shuttle goes back millennia, from what you describe all of these activities obviously overlapped since you mention net making in connection with Nalbinding. I don't suppose we should be surprised really, it was all about adapt and survive and these are quite simple tasks which are compounded to form more complex structures which gave them an edge to help them survive, fascinating all the same. Have you come across Tablet weaving? That astounds me, especially when you consider that examples of it dating back more than five or so thousand years have been found. It's not just about the weaving it's about the bits they needed to do it, from pierced cards to the spun thread, not to mention the intellectual capacity to formulate the patterns and then commit them to memory. Thanks for teaching me something today, I appreciate it, kind regards, Matt.
At 17:30 you say “unfortunately it’s me who’s going to be singing it”. Unfortunate my bleep! You have the most gorgeous voice as well as a delightful sense of humor and style. I’m so glad I ran across you this morning. Liking and subscribing here and in your music channel.
A really simple explanation on the difference between tatting and knotting: Tatting puts knots onto a line of thread(which may or maynot be the same line the knots are attached to). Knotting however puts knots into a line of thread.
As someone who tried and failed miserably at tatting but can put a mean knot in something, I took to knotting upon seeing your first video with the discarded tatting shuttles, so your knotting ones will have to be a future acquisition!
@@kerravonsen2810 It took me a good long while to get the hang of it, had to skim through a lot of different tutorials until I found one that 'clicked' :)
Wow! Thank you so much for this video! As a fellow musician and craft lover this was a dream to watch. I never considered how these two parts of my life could intersect!
Ahhhh you're freya catherine?! I was definitely here for nerdy textile ramblings and delightful enthusiatic tangents and then you just offhandedly reveal you're the singer of my fav covers of Fear Not This Night and We All LIft Together?! Legendary! Much love
What a lovely singing voice you have. I'm knitting a pineapple teapot cosy while watching you. Don't think I'll take up knotting but thanks for the entertaining info.🦘
Your first video was so compelling that I had to watch the second. I was rewarded with the sound effects of a knotting Shuttle falling to the ground. It was amazing. Edit: I’m going to keep watching your videos in the hopes that you show us what you do with these knotted strings. I hope to see some really cool stuff.
I don't know about the Chinese but I do know it existed in the Middle East which is when I say it about 1100 BC it's because I've seen a piece of jewelry in which knotting was used to separate between the different stones and I didn't understand what the purpose was other than to hold the stones in place but now I understand it was both decorative because that's the way it was done it was done as a triple not as a double knot and then there's a smaller not between the two bigger ones I didn't realize it I don't think anybody else realized it because it's not mentioned at all in the place that I saw that piece it's just assumed that it was a holder for the stones that were of the beads rather that were used in what appears to be a bracelet but could have been a necklace because it's only a piece.
Oh, you lovely songstress! I, too, am a musician, and I LOVED your voice and interpretation. And, yes, thank you for the informative videos on knotting.
Love the ethics. Make the niche hobby tools for yourself and try it out. See if it's something you enjoy. If you really enjoy it - then you can consider the stuff I sell. Heck yes! Don't leave people searching for something you can offer, but seriously, most of us are going to get a day or two novelty out of it, if that, and never pick it up again. And we can have it today! I tend to suggest people pick up craft materials at a secondhand shop (if they have a charitable option with 2nd hand prices) or post online that you're interested in trying out a craft - because someone else has abandoned it, or gotten so into it they've outgrown some of their starter materials. Not going to work for such an obscure craft.
I have seen one of those knots that you had as a kid one of those Chinese ones I've seen it very close up and so I didn't know that was nodding I thought it was similar to macrame but see I didn't know differently until you show us otherwise.
Very interesting. Thank you for the video. Im interested in knots and rope to encode information or spur reflection. Such as south american rope writing, or items like Rosary/prayer beads.
Brill, thanks. You are a great teacher 😊 with a lovely singing voice 👍. I would welcome further musings of a weird textile technique if you feel drawn to do more. Loved this one!
Basically it's like macrame knots at least like macrame in the sense that it's like macrame but without as many threads you're doing it with one single thread but the knots are seem to be the same if we're talking about tatting.
I feel like I could actually do knotting. I have tried to learn to tat a few times in the past but that was before RUclips was a thing. Maybe I can learn to knot and then learn to tat.
So one is like a yo-yo just not spherical more oblong and the other is more pointed at the end and more like something you put in your hair it's more like a clip in a way. Please remember that I cannot edit anything because I use voice to text and right now I'm barely able to see I have problems with my eyes occasionally when I'm extremely exhausted are my blood sugar is a bit too high... The first one that I mentioned is like a yo-yo would be a knotting shuttle and the second one would be a tatting shuttle IE one is more like what you would imagine a hair clip to look like I mean I've seen hair clips that remind me of the tapping shuttle and the other one reminds me of a yo-yo.
Fantastic video. In response to your what should you look into next? Given your specialist areas of music and crafts my mind logically went - French Skipping!!! How did that evolve?? ... did they use string before elastic and how would that even work??
Where do you find your knotting shuttles? I love yours, they are pretty! I am accross the pond stateside and am unable to find them. Edit: I want to buy a shuttle soon. Very excited!! You have a beautifully voice!
I really enjoyed these videos on knitting. I'd member heard of it. You have a lovely voice. How about letterboxing? It's rumored to have started in England in the 1600s, but I haven't been able to verify that.
@@NathanRyan-v6s it's part of a joke made in Part 1 - basically very little of the song is legible as a previous owner (prior to scanning into the IMSLP database) crossed all the words out and I joked that it must have been too risque for them. The beeping is a joke that I've had to bleep out the parts that are too naughty 😅
@@SongSpinnerUK Oh that is what it was!!!! My wife and I thought it was you doing some Purcell-esque beat boxing kind of technique, chuckle!!! best regards, knotting Matt.
Lovely song! Also, I have absolutely 0 evidence for this, and google did not prove useful either way, but could it be that this many songs contain the name Phyllis because it's a joke on syphillis?
That would be hilarious. I don't think it's likely though. It seems more likely that it was a common name that sounded pretty and paired well with music. I'll never hear the name Phyllis the same ever again though, thanks! :')
@@SongSpinnerUK Oops, that's my bad! Also, I saw a comment about it after I'd already posted mine, but your cover of Fear not this night? I've had it in at least one of my playlists for what, 6 years? Love it, didn't even know it was a cover!
Are you related to Mr Johnson like distantly related there is a kind of facial resemblance I'm not trying to insult you I'm talking because I'm used to looking at people's faces and when I see a resemblance I tend to point it out... Please understand I'm not trying to insult you I think it's your shape of your face your nose and certain other bone structure that is similar.
OMG!!!! "There's only so many ways you can tie knots in a string!" Seriously? I might add here, as a fully paid up member of 'The International Guild of Knot Tyers' I hold you personally responsible for the lost hour of my time spent mopping the milky coco residues off my lap top, ejected mid sip as you uttered THOSE words. Referring to my hallowed tome of, ' The Ashley Book Of Knots' by Clifford. W. Ashley, or 'ABOK' to those in the know, I see there are no less than 3854 ways of knotting a cord, and growing, that doesn't include the Chinese decorative knots of which the Chang Pang, the knot you showed us, is only one. Might I recommend the book, 'Chinese Knotting' by Lydia Chen, I honestly reckon you'd love it, far more complex contrivances than the overhand knot performed whilst knotting, Knotting, per Purcell, so to speak, or the half hitches right and left beloved of those, - - - - -those tatter types, LOL.
A fun fact. The high end sailing ships, both merchantmen and men o war, of the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries are considered to be the most complex mechanisms of their time and the only reason they worked was because of knots in cordage. From the weave knots in the linen sails to the stopper knots, manrope knots, and buntline hitches et al, of the running rigging, not to mention the splices, jib knots and carricks for foot mats and bump mats, all used quite literally in deadly earnest and most used to decorate, adorn and relieve boredom in equal measure.
So young woman, scoff at the knot at your own peril, they are the stuff of empires and brave souls, not to mention bored ones, who have forged the world we know. I put to you, where would we be without the the humble cardie, or Arran tank top and their knit 1 pearl 1 knots born of boredom and necessity, I mean, there are only so many furry critters you can skin for that luscious cami top, so comfortable to wear both outdoors and around the cave.
Take it easy luv, I subscribed BTW, I love your content, not to mention the delivery, best regards, Matt W.
@@matthewwigley1613 I prostrate myself at your feet for the slander I have committed towards knots and apologise for your laptop - I should clarify: there's only so many ways to tie that specific type of knot in a string. I wouldn't dare claim knowledge of all the different knots (which I, admittedly, know very little of). You truly sound like an absolute hoot and I wholeheartedly appreciate you weighing in, you've made my day and I feel thoroughly admonished ❤️
@@SongSpinnerUK Your more than welcome, but it is I who should thankyou for the time and effort you put into posting, it isn't something I could do and I have learnt so much from you that I wouldn't have known about otherwise. Seriously though, if you get a chance to look at the Chinese knotting book take it, there are some amazing contrivances in there which can be used as buttons or just adornments, plus it's just plain interesting.
I enjoyed your singing by the way. Purcell is one of my favourites and your voice matches that genre just right.
Take it easy luv, best regards, Matt.
U might be interested in a craft called nalbinding. It is the precursor to knitting and is basically knotting. It is what socks were orig made from and fishing nets and many useful items, incl modern day camel muzzles in the middle east. It goes back at least 10thousand yrs that we know of but prob way way way farther back. Almost every culture has a history of this in some form. It is really cool. Instead of using 2 needles to knit or a hook to crochet, u use a flat needle and short length of yarn (I prefer about 2-3 metres at a time) that u splice together, and u use ur thumb or the needle to basically loop specific type knots to create a very thick and durable fabric.
@@suzz1776 Thanks for letting me know about this, I haven't heard about it before by name, I'll do some research and have a go. It's odd that you should mention this activity because I've been pondering of late and reminiscing about the knitting lessons I had from my old mum, many moons ago, when I was only very small. She had a way of casting on which I could never master and by the way you describe your binding it was the exact same thing. From what I can remember she would use her thumb like a needle onto which she would form stitches and then cast each stitch in turn from the thumb onto a needle. At that age I couldn't really make it out properly, but I wish now that I had paid more attention.
I have also been pondering about the tatting activity, thingy, using a shuttle and it occurred to me that it is very similar to net making, wherein a knot is cast but a loose loop is formed with each knot in order to form the net, I really need to go back and check it out again to see exactly how it is done. Like your nalbinding, net making using a shuttle goes back millennia, from what you describe all of these activities obviously overlapped since you mention net making in connection with Nalbinding. I don't suppose we should be surprised really, it was all about adapt and survive and these are quite simple tasks which are compounded to form more complex structures which gave them an edge to help them survive, fascinating all the same.
Have you come across Tablet weaving? That astounds me, especially when you consider that examples of it dating back more than five or so thousand years have been found. It's not just about the weaving it's about the bits they needed to do it, from pierced cards to the spun thread, not to mention the intellectual capacity to formulate the patterns and then commit them to memory.
Thanks for teaching me something today, I appreciate it, kind regards, Matt.
At 17:30 you say “unfortunately it’s me who’s going to be singing it”. Unfortunate my bleep! You have the most gorgeous voice as well as a delightful sense of humor and style. I’m so glad I ran across you this morning. Liking and subscribing here and in your music channel.
A really simple explanation on the difference between tatting and knotting: Tatting puts knots onto a line of thread(which may or maynot be the same line the knots are attached to). Knotting however puts knots into a line of thread.
As someone who tried and failed miserably at tatting but can put a mean knot in something, I took to knotting upon seeing your first video with the discarded tatting shuttles, so your knotting ones will have to be a future acquisition!
Tatting defeated me too! I just could not get my head around it.
@@kerravonsen2810 It took me a good long while to get the hang of it, had to skim through a lot of different tutorials until I found one that 'clicked' :)
Wow! Thank you so much for this video! As a fellow musician and craft lover this was a dream to watch. I never considered how these two parts of my life could intersect!
Ahhhh you're freya catherine?! I was definitely here for nerdy textile ramblings and delightful enthusiatic tangents and then you just offhandedly reveal you're the singer of my fav covers of Fear Not This Night and We All LIft Together?! Legendary! Much love
@@rixmakoth5451 Damn, spotted in the wild! I'll never get used to that 😅
What a lovely singing voice you have. I'm knitting a pineapple teapot cosy while watching you. Don't think I'll take up knotting but thanks for the entertaining info.🦘
@@carolinereynolds2032 Glad to be the background noise to your crafting! ❤️
Your first video was so compelling that I had to watch the second. I was rewarded with the sound effects of a knotting Shuttle falling to the ground. It was amazing.
Edit: I’m going to keep watching your videos in the hopes that you show us what you do with these knotted strings. I hope to see some really cool stuff.
The puns I had to subscribe for the those alone.
No knot November 😂
@@murrvvmurr My goodness, I've brought all the lewd people out of the wood work (pun intended)
You have a very pleasant voice. Also, thanks for sharing your knowledge and crafting.
10:53 Bravo! Excellent pronunciation! I'm very proud of you for practicing 😊
Thank you for a great video, too!
@@liquidblackout yay! Tonal languages are fascinating but very scary to try to pronounce!
You are so witty and funny, that I’ll bet that you’re their favorite teacher. Time for me to learn! 😊
I don't know about the Chinese but I do know it existed in the Middle East which is when I say it about 1100 BC it's because I've seen a piece of jewelry in which knotting was used to separate between the different stones and I didn't understand what the purpose was other than to hold the stones in place but now I understand it was both decorative because that's the way it was done it was done as a triple not as a double knot and then there's a smaller not between the two bigger ones I didn't realize it I don't think anybody else realized it because it's not mentioned at all in the place that I saw that piece it's just assumed that it was a holder for the stones that were of the beads rather that were used in what appears to be a bracelet but could have been a necklace because it's only a piece.
Oh, you lovely songstress! I, too, am a musician, and I LOVED your voice and interpretation. And, yes, thank you for the informative videos on knotting.
This is so informative and rad, well done! Thank you for sharing.
Love your sense of humor lol
2:05
So knotting and tating were the crochet and knitting of their time.
Love the ethics. Make the niche hobby tools for yourself and try it out. See if it's something you enjoy. If you really enjoy it - then you can consider the stuff I sell. Heck yes! Don't leave people searching for something you can offer, but seriously, most of us are going to get a day or two novelty out of it, if that, and never pick it up again. And we can have it today!
I tend to suggest people pick up craft materials at a secondhand shop (if they have a charitable option with 2nd hand prices) or post online that you're interested in trying out a craft - because someone else has abandoned it, or gotten so into it they've outgrown some of their starter materials. Not going to work for such an obscure craft.
Thanks for a knew craft obssession 😅 Now I have to figure out how to make those XVII century italian knotted tassels 💕
I have seen one of those knots that you had as a kid one of those Chinese ones I've seen it very close up and so I didn't know that was nodding I thought it was similar to macrame but see I didn't know differently until you show us otherwise.
Your voice is incredibly beautiful. Thank you for sharing!
I love this soooo much. Thanks for putting this together. ❤
Oh! I'm so excited. Let me get a snack and get all settled in! :D
I gave you another thumbs up for this video because I have enjoyed the information that you are giving.
Well this was delightful, both parts. I do love a deep dive into oddments and trivialities.
This video was an absolute joy to watch!
Very interesting. Thank you for the video. Im interested in knots and rope to encode information or spur reflection. Such as south american rope writing, or items like Rosary/prayer beads.
I vote for history of crochet next!
Brill, thanks. You are a great teacher 😊 with a lovely singing voice 👍. I would welcome further musings of a weird textile technique if you feel drawn to do more. Loved this one!
Oh dear. Now I just HAVE to make knots at work... my work is sometimes quite boring, for hours at end. Tatting and knotting...
Where I'm from the detergent is pronounced (per sill) not (per cell) maybe that would help you perhaps.
Basically it's like macrame knots at least like macrame in the sense that it's like macrame but without as many threads you're doing it with one single thread but the knots are seem to be the same if we're talking about tatting.
I feel like I could actually do knotting. I have tried to learn to tat a few times in the past but that was before RUclips was a thing. Maybe I can learn to knot and then learn to tat.
So one is like a yo-yo just not spherical more oblong and the other is more pointed at the end and more like something you put in your hair it's more like a clip in a way. Please remember that I cannot edit anything because I use voice to text and right now I'm barely able to see I have problems with my eyes occasionally when I'm extremely exhausted are my blood sugar is a bit too high... The first one that I mentioned is like a yo-yo would be a knotting shuttle and the second one would be a tatting shuttle IE one is more like what you would imagine a hair clip to look like I mean I've seen hair clips that remind me of the tapping shuttle and the other one reminds me of a yo-yo.
Awesome, love it. ❤
Now I am wondering what the other kind of knotting is??- but from the look on your face- I am not game to google it 😂
@@InaNutshell-y4m a wise choice 😅
Fantastic video.
In response to your what should you look into next? Given your specialist areas of music and crafts my mind logically went - French Skipping!!! How did that evolve?? ... did they use string before elastic and how would that even work??
Where do you find your knotting shuttles? I love yours, they are pretty! I am accross the pond stateside and am unable to find them. Edit: I want to buy a shuttle soon. Very excited!! You have a beautifully voice!
@@shelby6066 thank you! I think I left a link in the description but I'd highly suggest trying it out before buying to make sure you enjoy it 😊
@SongSpinnerUK thank you! I will do that. But I have a couple shanko cloths I made that knotting would add the perfect edging to😍
My most pressing question for you: when you are knotting without filming, do you say "plop" every time? I certainly would!
@@adventuresinwhimsy I say it in my head, but my husband is slowly learning knotting and he says plop out loud still 😅
I really enjoyed these videos on knitting. I'd member heard of it. You have a lovely voice.
How about letterboxing? It's rumored to have started in England in the 1600s, but I haven't been able to verify that.
Yah part 2!
I enjoyed your song. Why did you add the high-pitched beeps?
@@NathanRyan-v6s it's part of a joke made in Part 1 - basically very little of the song is legible as a previous owner (prior to scanning into the IMSLP database) crossed all the words out and I joked that it must have been too risque for them. The beeping is a joke that I've had to bleep out the parts that are too naughty 😅
@@SongSpinnerUK Oh that is what it was!!!! My wife and I thought it was you doing some Purcell-esque beat boxing kind of technique, chuckle!!! best regards, knotting Matt.
@@matthewwigley1613 alas, Purcell-esque beatboxing is not in my repertoire thus far 😂
That symbol that looks like a bee is really a double s but I assume that you know this already.
I would wish you wpuld last the pics a lil longer...
Great as always
@@Drogenelfe You probably don't want to know, I wouldn't advise looking it up. It's a good deal more risque than the smut in this video!
Lovely song! Also, I have absolutely 0 evidence for this, and google did not prove useful either way, but could it be that this many songs contain the name Phyllis because it's a joke on syphillis?
That would be hilarious. I don't think it's likely though. It seems more likely that it was a common name that sounded pretty and paired well with music. I'll never hear the name Phyllis the same ever again though, thanks! :')
@@SongSpinnerUK Oops, that's my bad! Also, I saw a comment about it after I'd already posted mine, but your cover of Fear not this night? I've had it in at least one of my playlists for what, 6 years? Love it, didn't even know it was a cover!
Are you related to Mr Johnson like distantly related there is a kind of facial resemblance I'm not trying to insult you I'm talking because I'm used to looking at people's faces and when I see a resemblance I tend to point it out... Please understand I'm not trying to insult you I think it's your shape of your face your nose and certain other bone structure that is similar.
Hahahah
Hilarious! Wish the lyrics on screen matched the song… get someone to help you synchronize
@@michelehart5678 oh it was purposefully like that, I wanted to share all the interesting song titles I'd come across 😅
I just learned about the existence of sprang. ruclips.net/video/ZQSLp57UxT4/видео.htmlsi=xgdnGm1hdJdH6POO