No joke I got one of these Creature boards and hands down its the best deck I've ever had. I could significantly tell a different. I even emailed Creature and told them whatever they're doing keep doing it.
Damn dude I have basically been riding the same set up except its 9.0 in. since this video came out. The board honestly rides so good. I had never really paid attention to wheelbases in the past. I will now.
Have that same board definitely love the shape I don't know what it is but I really love that board just switched not to long ago that one lasted me 5-6 months💯
14.25 is not that short of a wheelbase, it’s almost the average length you see these days. sub 14 would be pretty short, 13.75 is what I thought it would be
Yea most 8-8.25s are 14.25 or lower. I wish more companies made these wheelbases with 8.5+ decks. shorter and fatter decks feel great for tech shit surprisingly.
14.25 is a longer wheelbase in my opinion. I don’t feel that any length of anything works better for any particular persons height/shoe size… but if ur riding a 14.25” wheel base, ideally you’d be 6 feet tall if not taller. 14.125 is about average now a days. Used to be 14” back when most people rode smaller decks (8” and under) way back In the 90’s/early 2000’s. It is a short wheel base for his width but think about that for a sec… you go up in width drastically cause you wanna try wider boards… for the most part, wheelbase lengths increase with board width. But… did you get taller too, along with trying wider and wider boards with wider and wider wheelbases?? Since most people are 6’ tall and under… doesn’t make sense to me why every company isn’t doing what creatures doing with the shorter wheelbases. It was this sole reason why I literally never was willing to try wider decks. Then I discovered the stump decks and it finallyyyyy makes freaking sense so I’ve finally started riding a wider set up. I absolutely despise wide wheel bases. And I’m a smudge under 6’ tall size 10.5 shoes. I refuse to go wider than 14”. Thr cresture I got now is freaking 8.25” with a THIRTEEN AND A HALF INCH WHEELBASE. I think… it might be too short… :/
fellow 5,5 here, but after 13 years of skating I still don't know if I prefer a shorter or a longer wheelbase. They sure feel different and some tricks work better on each. The problem is, by the time I need to change my board, I swear I've already forgotten my preferences. I guess shorter is definitely better for treflips, that's for sure. Trucks play a huge role as well, but concave, lenght and overall shape do too, so... There are just too many variables.
@@sk8_bort hey maaan i have an old skateboard deck and planning to cut the nose because it already has chips, since i enjoy much more on cruising i was planning to set it up on cruiser. Do u think it will affect if i move the trucks 2 bolts down??
Yes it does, make more 14.1 or 14.12 wb, no one wants to ride a ship with a 14.38 wb. Only thing keeping me from buying creature too much 14.38 like all deluxe decks
Does anyone know what kind of shoe brand this guy riding? I have a creature deck too and it is a VX deck. The middle and concave deck is in pristine condition. The tail and nose is chipped but I am still able to pop it. I still like traditional decks but VX boards rehapes itself from rebound impacts. I am blown how it lasted for more 90 days. However the tail and nose could use improvement with strength because they weaken easily. Good deck though!
If you're 5'8 or above it makes it harder imo. Short wheelbases are great for kids, but if you're a more or less regular sized guy, all it does is make you have your legs/feet unnaturally close together. But please try for yourself, a big part of skateboarding is personal preference.
14.25 wheelbase is generally for people 6feet tall and up. 14inch wheelbase and under will typically making skating ALOT easier for people under 6feet tall.
Compared a 14.25 VX Vs 14.375 Flight yesterday and it does feel different. Another thing is that I have Indy’s on the 14.25 and thunders on the 14.375. The Santa Cruz tail is steeper too. I might swap the trucks to offset the effect. It’s a tiny difference but felt a lot turnier on the 14.25. Comment if you’ve tried various trucks on this..
@@johntorres532 dude, nowadays im rocking the 139 ventures highs, but i used to rock thunders 148s and they were perfect! i just downsized my trucks cus im a short dude ahahha
@@bonelles it's okay I'm short too lol I'm just coming back to skating after 10 years and I'm getting a 8.12" primitive deck with a wb of 14.25 and I've tried ventures and thunders before but idk if I should try some indys. But idk which one should i get i want a nice pop but i dont want nothing to low or too high
@@bonelles yeah I've noticed thunder 147s do fit an 8 12"deck but I see thunder 148s fit a 8.12"deck. Your thought and opinion on which one? They both fit it but does it matter which I choose
So I measured my “wheel base” and it was at about 15in on an almost Max pro board. So is it about .75in difference? Any more information would be appreciated!
It's the shit bro nobody in the game is doing it like NHS RN between these shapes the powerply and VX why skate any other boards?? Santa cruz/Creature for life bro!!
@@Theruserofusernames good sir I got a question. If I'm getting a 8.12" board with a wb of 14.25 what trucks would you recommend? Thunders or indys. Heard indys keep the wb and thunders are like a cm forward
@@johntorres532 personally I’ve only every ridden Indy or aces which keep the wheelbase short, but on a 8.12 I wouldn’t want to make the wheelbase any longer than 14.25 so I’d probably stay away from thunders or ventures. At the end of the day it’s personal preference though
@@blackbartsimps0n560 I'm past many who where 180 skated 7.75 even some slated 7.5, I think but yeah I guess this kind with small wheelbase for some of help in maneuverability may be nice stability like vert I think longer wheelbase if I remember right some of flipping may be easier with very narrow boards even think alaonin way like some of kind of little wider boards in some ways even tho a 9 is way big size that I'm kkt sure would suit me, I think maybe 8.25 or 8.375 bit I guess also a 8 or 8.125 in will think is nice size also for miniramp and street : )
@@danielgonz8795 john gardener became the team manager for DC shoes during a trip and there was some like conflict between them (john said so in thrasher) and so i think tfunk switched to cons partly because of that and because converse cons shoes are sick and the team is too. i think tfunk was maybe like making fun or messing with him idk
I don't know how we got to wheelbases this large. If this is accurate, these were less than 14" on a 9" thankyousupply.com/collections/heritage/products/blind-heritage-fucked-up-blind-kids-rear-end-rudy-8-98-skateboard-deck There's no reason it has to get longer as the board gets wider- some people just have big feet.
Yeah this is VERY misleading. Plenty of brands keep a 14.25" wheelbase for all sizes. And I'd want like a 14" wheelbase on a 8.5 or 8.25 deck ideally. But this ain't that!!!
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WHICH TRICK WAS YOUR FAVORITE?!
Eggplant on the vert wall
And the long 50 50 grind
The 5050 coffin
any 5050, the trucks hitting the rail was so satisfying
kevs creation
when is kevs creations coming back
I want a prices preference as well
Yes we want kevs creations back
Ikr
bring it back
Kevin quit CCS bro, he doesn’t work there anymore
No joke I got one of these Creature boards and hands down its the best deck I've ever had. I could significantly tell a different. I even emailed Creature and told them whatever they're doing keep doing it.
How long they lasted you? I got a regular creature board(not stump) feels like it might snap pretty soon.
@@char345 Lasted me the normal time. About a month to month and a half
love the style, so much steeze!
lmfaooo this dude is hilarious and he RIPS
Just ordered my first 8.5 Creature Stump after riding long ass 8.25's for a while. Curious to see how it rides!
is it good?
Damn dude I have basically been riding the same set up except its 9.0 in. since this video came out. The board honestly rides so good. I had never really paid attention to wheelbases in the past. I will now.
You ride Indys?
It's a big deal. I was riding a 14 inch forever on Ace which shrink it even more. Started riding a Polar with 14.125 and I fucking hate life lol
I just got the 9" stump absolutely love it!
@@guyfromthatthing1017 Indy's. Particularly older models from their back catalog . Stage V, VII etc
@@Johanthegnarler what happened after the change up?
Feels like I'm watching Gonz.💯👌🏻
These decks are sick! My birthday complete is an 8.8 VX creature stump. Sick board. Has really calmed my board madness😂
This guys style is amazing he rips so hard sheesh
Have that same board definitely love the shape I don't know what it is but I really love that board just switched not to long ago that one lasted me 5-6 months💯
14.25 is not that short of a wheelbase, it’s almost the average length you see these days. sub 14 would be pretty short, 13.75 is what I thought it would be
Canny short for a board of that width tho
Yea most 8-8.25s are 14.25 or lower. I wish more companies made these wheelbases with 8.5+ decks. shorter and fatter decks feel great for tech shit surprisingly.
14.25 is a longer wheelbase in my opinion. I don’t feel that any length of anything works better for any particular persons height/shoe size… but if ur riding a 14.25” wheel base, ideally you’d be 6 feet tall if not taller. 14.125 is about average now a days. Used to be 14” back when most people rode smaller decks (8” and under) way back In the 90’s/early 2000’s. It is a short wheel base for his width but think about that for a sec… you go up in width drastically cause you wanna try wider boards… for the most part, wheelbase lengths increase with board width. But… did you get taller too, along with trying wider and wider boards with wider and wider wheelbases?? Since most people are 6’ tall and under… doesn’t make sense to me why every company isn’t doing what creatures doing with the shorter wheelbases. It was this sole reason why I literally never was willing to try wider decks. Then I discovered the stump decks and it finallyyyyy makes freaking sense so I’ve finally started riding a wider set up. I absolutely despise wide wheel bases. And I’m a smudge under 6’ tall size 10.5 shoes. I refuse to go wider than 14”. Thr cresture I got now is freaking 8.25” with a THIRTEEN AND A HALF INCH WHEELBASE. I think… it might be too short… :/
Creature just released a 8.61" Stump with 14.25" WB
Girl's g033 model is a 8.5 at 14.25 wb
as a 5'5 dude, i will be trusting that this deck is good for shorter people and i will be buying it
fellow 5,5 here, but after 13 years of skating I still don't know if I prefer a shorter or a longer wheelbase. They sure feel different and some tricks work better on each. The problem is, by the time I need to change my board, I swear I've already forgotten my preferences. I guess shorter is definitely better for treflips, that's for sure. Trucks play a huge role as well, but concave, lenght and overall shape do too, so... There are just too many variables.
@@sk8_bort hey maaan i have an old skateboard deck and planning to cut the nose because it already has chips, since i enjoy much more on cruising i was planning to set it up on cruiser. Do u think it will affect if i move the trucks 2 bolts down??
As another 5’5 dude I like a long wheelbase w aces to shorten it. My kfs and ollies are way higher. I also wanna try this board tho
@@grashiela.v experimenting is fun and it's the only way to find the perfect setup, so go for it!
@@sk8_bort thanks carlos! ❤
100% WORTH it, get one if you can. Love mine
Good for steep feeling crooked grinds amd tail is nice steep and high-ish up. If ur into that.
This guy is letting loose big time. no way am I charging transition switch like that!
He’s got some beautiful style!!
I ride this wheelbase ! Love it !
I went to Jordan high school where that park is located we used to get into gang fights there and now I’m skating there 10 years later lol
John Gardner is just plain awesome.
Please do more Kev's kreations
kev quit working at ccs
@@666ixo7 That sucks
Nevermind the board, that hat is dope!
Rode 15" wheel base for ever, got onto a 14.25 wheelbase and was amazed. Tryed a 15 again and dont want anything to do with it
Same here. All I get now are the Creature Stump boards
where can i find a hat like that
can i have my 14" wheelbase pls
14 is the best
I had one of those hats years ago, bought it from DAISO. Never figured out why it had reflective mylar on the inside of the hat.
shorter wheelcase = for shorter legs i was waiting for someone else to validate my crazy ass theory thank you;
Not really
i saw him skating that day!
sick! lucky man
Is it better than a Baker
I'm wondering why my catalog hasn't arrived. Do you all not want me to buy from you? I'm not doing it online for nostalgia and principle purposes.
💯 we want CCS Catalogs in the mail!!!
I'm a really big guy 1.92mts 120kg...what board do you recommend and what size?...element...creature or santa cruz
No one’s gonna talk about how he rolled in switch?
Yes it does, make more 14.1 or 14.12 wb, no one wants to ride a ship with a 14.38 wb. Only thing keeping me from buying creature too much 14.38 like all deluxe decks
Gotta get on that juicy 14.5 wb
I'm riding a Traffic board 14 inch wheelbase. 8 inch deck
Zero vs Creature
Which one is lighter?
Very steep, great for snappy powerful skating. Plus the concave is super dish so great for flip tricks and board control 🍑
Can you put OJ 55s on this 9in stumps creature deck and still feel the benefit of shorter wheel base?
Wheel height does not effect wheel base
I bought one of these and then after one session purchased another
Need more vids at this park
Did he hit the lazy boy 50-50 down that rail though?!?
what was that beeping noise in the beginning of the video? so sick!
Does anyone know what kind of shoe brand this guy riding? I have a creature deck too and it is a VX deck. The middle and concave deck is in pristine condition. The tail and nose is chipped but I am still able to pop it. I still like traditional decks but VX boards rehapes itself from rebound impacts. I am blown how it lasted for more 90 days. However the tail and nose could use improvement with strength because they weaken easily. Good deck though!
so this is why elijah berle's board looks so tiny on him?
What wheels are those
OJs’ 87 a I think it’s 80 something but now he rides his pro models ok juice minis 55mm 75a
If you're 5'8 or above it makes it harder imo. Short wheelbases are great for kids, but if you're a more or less regular sized guy, all it does is make you have your legs/feet unnaturally close together. But please try for yourself, a big part of skateboarding is personal preference.
14.25 wheelbase is generally for people 6feet tall and up. 14inch wheelbase and under will typically making skating ALOT easier for people under 6feet tall.
Compared a 14.25 VX Vs 14.375 Flight yesterday and it does feel different. Another thing is that I have Indy’s on the 14.25 and thunders on the 14.375. The Santa Cruz tail is steeper too. I might swap the trucks to offset the effect. It’s a tiny difference but felt a lot turnier on the 14.25. Comment if you’ve tried various trucks on this..
thunder tends to make your wheelbase longer and indy usually shorten your wheelbase so i think the trucks selection amplified this feeling
Aren't there alot of boards with less than 14.25 inch wheelbase tho?
Like isn't 14inch the standard?
no it's not standard , most decks are 14.25.
14" wheelbase on a 31.8" deck. thats a short and perfect for flip tricks wheelbase and size
What trucks would you rock on those? I might be getting a a 8.12" with a wheelbase of 14.25 but idk if I should get a thunder or independents.
@@johntorres532 dude, nowadays im rocking the 139 ventures highs, but i used to rock thunders 148s and they were perfect! i just downsized my trucks cus im a short dude ahahha
@@bonelles it's okay I'm short too lol I'm just coming back to skating after 10 years and I'm getting a 8.12" primitive deck with a wb of 14.25 and I've tried ventures and thunders before but idk if I should try some indys. But idk which one should i get i want a nice pop but i dont want nothing to low or too high
@@johntorres532 i would go with thunders! even the high ones arent as high as indys. i would go with thunders 148!
@@bonelles yeah I've noticed thunder 147s do fit an 8 12"deck but I see thunder 148s fit a 8.12"deck. Your thought and opinion on which one? They both fit it but does it matter which I choose
Wheel base is from center of one hole 🕳️ to other 🕳️
So I measured my “wheel base” and it was at about 15in on an almost Max pro board. So is it about .75in difference? Any more information would be appreciated!
Also, wasn’t World Industries the OG makers of short boards?
@@Ethersgrow it’s going to be much more responsive and flip tricks will be wayy easier
@@runevds4205 I’d really appreciate a breakdown! Like how “Braille Skateboarding” compares products.
Speaking of wheelbase. I haven't been able to find a 8.25 deck under or 14 inches in wheelbase.
frog’s 8.25 decks usually run a 14 wb
Try April or Primitive, they have decks with that exact specifications
I love this guy's skating, but that board feels sketchy at speed! Does flip good though.
Only if you are 5'3" like this dude.
I got this board to learn on
It's the shit bro nobody in the game is doing it like NHS RN between these shapes the powerply and VX why skate any other boards?? Santa cruz/Creature for life bro!!
I skated that exact creature deck the 1st time I went to Barca
I ordered it
i have that deck and i love it
Cheers from San Francisco!! ☮️
The hat looks like a distraction but the skating is fantastic!
i've been wanting this
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATURE
I thinks we are the same height?
I am taller than all my local male skater counterparts. Their heads are deceptively large Marge.
Be sure an’ tell’em Large Marge sent ya!
I want a 13.75 wheelbase on a 8.25 egg shape. Doesn’t seem to exist
that was sick
what shoes r those!?!??!?!?
dc josh kalis
the vulc version of course
But that was not really a short wheelbase, thats the standard isn´t it?
No, I hate short wheelbases! For me it’s got to be 14.25 and up!
This was 14.25
Which makes high Ollie easier?
14.25 isnt really short, thats just a normal wb
For an 8.8 it’s pretty short, it would be like riding a 8.25 with a 13.75 wheel base
@@Theruserofusernames good sir I got a question. If I'm getting a 8.12" board with a wb of 14.25 what trucks would you recommend? Thunders or indys. Heard indys keep the wb and thunders are like a cm forward
@@johntorres532 personally I’ve only every ridden Indy or aces which keep the wheelbase short, but on a 8.12 I wouldn’t want to make the wheelbase any longer than 14.25 so I’d probably stay away from thunders or ventures. At the end of the day it’s personal preference though
my nephew is fat and short 4'x4'. this is the board for him. thx FIENDS!
Lol he fat
mans nephew is a fat 4x4
@@aiseu like yo' mama
Who is this guy he's shredding
John Gardner rides for Creature
killer hat!
Does annnnnyone know of a decent deck that's close to 8.38 or 8.5 by 33
Not enough long wheelbase options
Shoes are fire
That trey bomb was more of a mob skater xl trey
Science, I concur.
Get video bro! Big like👍🏾
Awesome channel🛹
If ur legs are too short for the board it would be hard to get leverage
Why does John Gardener look like Chris McCandless
Yes it does
such a cool style
ive been skating stumps and its the fucking best
Nobody gonna talk about his hat?
So they just have the dimensions of their Santa Cruz counterparts. I prefer Santa Cruz for this very reason
8.8?‽???
At the end john looks like jared leto🤣
John Gardner rips
3:18 lil kader
So much STEEZE
Jared leto reviewing a creature skateboard
funky
That reminds me; I need a new lampshade.
I thought 14in was short
More 8.8 s in the world please
My favorite deck just broke the one in vid 2days ago the purple one is on its way now 💜
I ride the santa cruz version... 9" 14.25WB and I'm 6'2 180 Never going back to 8.5
@@blackbartsimps0n560 I'm past many who where 180 skated 7.75 even some slated 7.5, I think but yeah I guess this kind with small wheelbase for some of help in maneuverability may be nice stability like vert I think longer wheelbase if I remember right some of flipping may be easier with very narrow boards even think alaonin way like some of kind of little wider boards in some ways even tho a 9 is way big size that I'm kkt sure would suit me, I think maybe 8.25 or 8.375 bit I guess also a 8 or 8.125 in will think is nice size also for miniramp and street : )
This dude is the reason TFunk quit DC
Why?
@@danielgonz8795 john gardener became the team manager for DC shoes during a trip and there was some like conflict between them (john said so in thrasher) and so i think tfunk switched to cons partly because of that and because converse cons shoes are sick and the team is too. i think tfunk was maybe like making fun or messing with him idk
Okay and?
what did you feed this guy? xd
Raspberries 😂
14.25 is not a short wheelbase. I've skated 22 years and allways skated a 14.25 wheelbase.
for an 8.8, the classic creature 8.8 shape is 15
I don't know how we got to wheelbases this large. If this is accurate, these were less than 14" on a 9" thankyousupply.com/collections/heritage/products/blind-heritage-fucked-up-blind-kids-rear-end-rudy-8-98-skateboard-deck There's no reason it has to get longer as the board gets wider- some people just have big feet.
Yeah this is VERY misleading. Plenty of brands keep a 14.25" wheelbase for all sizes. And I'd want like a 14" wheelbase on a 8.5 or 8.25 deck ideally. But this ain't that!!!
@@fitch9782 Not really true. Most are really only a tiny bit larger like 14.5" or 14.6" wheelbase.
@@PHeMoX April boards and some Chocolate/Girl(shapes G027 & G052) have 14” on 8.25
Shreds
lol watch Andy Andersons videos. He rides a 15 inch wheelbase and rides on all kinds of steep stuff everywhere.