What's Your Wheelbase? - Creature Stumps - Whale Talk
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Wheelbase is one of the most important and overlooked deck dimensions.
A deck's wheelbase can make a big difference in how your board turns, ollies and flips.
In the latest episode of Whale Talk, Ron explains how wheelbase affects everything from turning to Tre flips and how the Creature Stump's shorter wheelbases make them ollie and flip easier.
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Best explanation about wheelbase I found so far! Thank you
Awesome, thank you! - Ron
Learning to consider my wheel base improved my entire skating experience. 8.5 with a 14.25 wheel base every time for me.
Stumps sound like they're handmade for me, gonna have to try one out.
Most decent 8.5" decks already are 14.25" wheelbase decks though...
@@PHeMoX there's a good amount out there but theres a tonne longer too. Never said they were impossible to find just they're the ideal wheelbase for me
Excellent and quite informative! This is really helpful insight , and for me the shorter wheel base combined with creatures brilliant concave makes skating so much more fun like you mentioned. It's the difference between landing 1 out 10 tre flips on long wbase to 1 out of 2 on a creature concave shorter wbase.
Thanks very much Ron, big fan of your part where you skate to the Police. Cheers
Thank you! It does seem like it affects 360 flips more than any other trick. Man in a suitcase ;) Ron
@@NHSSkateDirect It's not _really_ the wheelbase that affects it though, but more so the weight of the trucks being located more inwards compared to a wider wheelbase. In other words, if you'd skate with trucks that match the shorter wheelbase compared to their 'original deck width' (ie. lighter trucks in this case), you'd see the exact same performance for 360 flips (in how fast or well they spin). It's actually an interesting effect in physics related to weight and one that definitely matters for real life skateboarding. I kind of wish we would see a few decks with an even shorter wheelbase, but maybe we're dealing with sweetspot features and going too overboard makes it unstable. Not sure.
Love the stumps. Got the 8.8 recently , paired with 159ers and some 54mm OJ Nomads. Perfect all terrain street setup. I will say I don't really like the 14.25 in bowls or transition though so I run multiple setups with me at all times ( 8.75 x 32.75 with a 14.6 wheelbase for transition and a 10" Willis Kimbel shaped board with 15" wheelsbase for cruiser)
Love that 8.8. Sick set up. Agree on the longer wheelbase for transition. Cheers!
@It's snow way 5'11 200lbs
Ron you found your calling. You make a great spokesperson. My best friend growing up had your ganesha santa cruz as his first board. You rock
Thank you Michael! That's one of my favorite decks. I found that graphic on a drink coaster at "coffee shop" in Amsterdam. On a Santa Cruz Europe tour in '94.
Just got the 9" it rules. The wheelbase is perfectly balanced with the width. Concave is nice and flat too! Perfection!
Just got the 8.8 and it's probably the comfiest board I've ever ridden. Perfect for a street skater with big feet like myself. Going to be riding nothing but these and the Santa Cruz equivalent from now on!
8.75 trucks or 9.0?
bought a 33 inch board with a 16 inch wb, havent skated in a park yet, but stoked to do so
Great video man
It's weird I can skate a 14.5 wb .... But a 15 wheelbase I can barely Ollie a curb ... I'm glad short wheel bases are a trend now !!
Ron is the man
Hey I just got one of these in 8.0. I'm a short woman and just learning but this has been very comfy so far!
Excellent!
I'm currently riding the Girl "love seat" shape. It's 9x32 but has a 13.875 WB. I prefer shorter WB and I'm super stoked to try out one of the 8.5 Creature Stumps!
Nice! Looks like SC has a similar size coming out this summer with a 14" wb:
Contra Eclipse Shaped 9.25in x 31.95in Santa Cruz
and there was a Salba version: Salba Stencil Shaped 9.25in x 31.95in Santa Cruz
We're out of those but I see one on eBay.
Thank you for educating us, not only just play skateboard.
In my teens and early 20s I didn't care what I skated, just grab and shred. Now that I'm older I have a preference and I'm really picky with my set ups. I'm gonna pick up one of these stumps tomorrow!
Nice! Hope you like them as much I do.
First deck I ever actually skated to dust was a creature team board and it was awesome
Yo Ron, please make a video on symmetrical boards like twin tail or nose tail! Love these videos
Good idea. If we have any symmetrical decks coming out I will. Thanks! -RW
For me, wheelbase is my first consideration, board width being second
It is that important for sure.
I agree cause going from a 8.0 to 8.25 is not much of a difference but that wheelbase difference will mess you up
@@recession81 it’s true, was riding longer wheelbases for the longest time and hopped back on a classic old 14” wheelbase with my short legs and man skating has actually gotten fun again
Same
@eVerProductions1 in my 30s now and shorter. I instantly knew I needed shorter wheelbase, similar to before the big board craze again
I needed this video so bad thanks man🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
recently got the john gardner 8.8 14wb deck, i still suck at skating, but it’s the most comfortable board i’ve tried yet. wide enough to feel like i can really dig my heels in, but it still feels lighter than my old 8.5.
Wow. That board is sick. Somehow I missed that one. What a special shape. (8.84in x 31.42in Gardner Ghosts Creature). We're out of them now but I see one on Amazon if anyone's lookin'. Thanks Colton!
With a Stump decks, remember the trucks you skate or buy for the deck can even help you play with how far inward your axles are per wheel base.
i have that same 8.8 and love it
Great video! You explained everything so well, will definitely be trying these decks out
Thank you! I saw we just got all the sizes back in stock.
You measure it from center of the hole to other center of hole right???
Great video! I'm really happy to see more variety of wheelbases lately. I'm a fan of longer wheelbases and wider boards, but I can really see the usefulness of a shorter wheel base on a wider deck for people with big feet but who still want to skate tech.
I'm on a 15.5 and a 16 in wheelbase for my main two boards. Chris Strople models.
It all depends on what you want to do. Going into the video I was hyped on shorter wheelbases but now I think I want to put together with a long WB to open up my stance.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@NHSSkateDirect Having multiple setups is always the best answer if you can afford it! Have fun out there.
Nice vid! 🎉 Love short WB!
Huge fan of the Creature Stump decks. It's all I ride now, I've had 3 in a row. I personally can tell a huge difference with the short wheelbase
Rad! Glad you like them too. Wheelbase is a one of those things where a little change makes a big difference in the overall geometry.
I love boards with a longer wheelbase. Since I’m not a technical guy, I want to feel secure when I grind curbs and when I carve.
At the end of the day, it’s about having fun.
14.5 and smaller. 14.25 is the goldilocks zone but 14 even is pretty darn fun.
Some 80s shapes with shorter wheelbases would be so cool!
I started considering wheel base here recently and have noticed that some boards cut their wheelbases off-centered. I had an April board last and I noticed that it was cut a little more forward making the tail have a lower pop angle than the nose compared to a normal wheelbase cut.
I’ve also noticed that I can do my tricks higher on a normal 14.25 than on a 14 because of that same angle. Pair that with an 8 width and a 31.8-32 length along and bam, found my perfect setup! It should be mentioned that I use Tensor trucks that are 55mm high like an Independent which adds even more pop angle lol but hey, works great for me!
Tail/nose lengths, trucks, wheels, concave... they all affect the geometry of how a board pops.
It takes some time to figure it all out and how it works best for you. Sounds like you've got it mostly figured out. Cheers!
great info..nowadays i like to ride 8.8-9.125 egg/football shape decks.within the 13.75-14.25wb range.
What boards you ride with a 13.75wb? I've never seen anything under a 14. I'm looking for a good deck for my short wife, she's struggling with learning tricks.
Nice! Love them football shapes. Very 90's.
Such a great series! Not stumpy at all!
14.22.. I have a 8.25 Santa Cruz VX twin tip... I LOVE IT.
Symmetrical and a VX. I like that one too.
Not only wheelbase matters, but also where the kicks sit (the mold itself) - especially if you are not a typical rider of average proportions. When you're 5'2 you end up with no good options, unfortunately. Either squeezing onto a kids deck or having something way too long to ollie well and control easily. Creature has so many kids molds the appear to have shorter presses but they are all completes and birch - why?? Hopefully more companies will try a little harder in the future. I am glad you found a nice shape that will satisfy the other end of the spectrum :)
SubbedSo wb that’s shorter is better for manuals awesome
What I would like to see for the shaped decks is the width of the deck at the truck bolts. I've seen some NHS shaped decks where the width is 8.5% but at the nose or tail it tapered in a bit to about 8" wide so my Indy 149s weren't useable. Also I love the stumps decks partly because they're so widely available still. You can always grab one.
Good point. We'll see if there's a way we can address that. Same with reissues where it says 10 inches wide but the width of the back truck vs. the front is totally different and rarely do people put 10 inch wide trucks on a 10 inch reissue. Usually 9".
I really wanna try the 8.8 out.
the angle of the nose also changes when thinking of length of nose and tail!
Never really considered wheel base till I Bought the stumps deck
I remember getting a deck when I was a kid and Couldn't figure out why it ollied different. Wheelbase+tail length make such a difference.
I'm 6 foot 3 love the way the 8.8 feels would of even got a 9inch if I knew how small it would feel only issue is transition feet feel alittle close but will get used to it
Right now I'm torn between those 2 sizes. The 8.8 flips easier but the 9.0 feels so nice under my big feet on slides and grinds.
I have 8.5 trucks on the 8.8 and 9.0 trucks on the 9.
Wheelbase is definitely one of those things that feels weird to change at first.
14.375 to 14.5 is my sweet spot
It's so crazy cause I'm like 5'11. You'd think I'd need a longer board. I always skated krooked, antihero and alien so when I got a stumps I was nervous. It took me a few minutes to get use to but everything came so much easier. Kickflips, Ollie's, everything. I got used to the stumps. Local shop sold me another creature board once cause they didn't have a stump and man oh man. I'm still trying to get used to it and it's been 2 days haha. Is there any other boards that are just like the stumps in a size 8? Just in case I have that issue again? Never thought I'd prefer short wheelbase
I love the stumps
Same!
Can you make moe of these Stumps boards with a different base color. That orange looks suck behind the Green Creature logo, I’m sure Maroon, Brown, Dark Grey, etc would as well.
Hello Ron, It's my opinion that Santa Cruz Skateboards are simply The Best. But, I want to try a Creature, and this 🎥 encourages me toward this decision.
btw; your Tricks are 100% RAD-
Thank ya!😎
Right on. If you like SC decks you should be happy with Creature as well. They are manufactured with in the same place with the same wood. I've been stuck on the 8.8 and 8.6 Stumps shapes lately and there's an Santa Cruz Everslick version I'm in love with. Enjoy!
Just what I am looking for! Size 12 men's shoe. After 35 years I decided to get back into the sport. How would these boards work with Thunder Trucks for street? Would the setup feel good or wobbly? Thanks.
Go with Independent trucks with the Stumps
I definitely have preference, But I’ll ride anything. That’s what makes you a good driver, right? You can deal with different setups.
There's definitely some learning involved in trying new things.
i mean yeah but often the park/transition will come to BITE you from variation to variation in setups...as you do get comfortable/adapt...you often forget what youre riding/how to ride it mid trick. In my case i try to land with ventures all the time like im riding indys...and eat it....yet the ventures POP like no other in transition they just blast. You think you have to pump massive pop into them like indy standards...next thing you know youre just zooming and catching air landing transfers way further than with indys. As fun as it is to ride a quiver...its when i forget to respect each setup for what it offers...and overlap a trick im trying with a specific setup...by trying said trick...as if i were riding something else....it leads to catastrophe XD. And once im injured or on the back end of the session...i wind up skating my favorite setup out of max/comfort. Some setups= more tricks, others=more speed/air.
I have creature 8 deck that has a 13inch wheelbase and 30,5 length.
It’s the best board ever cos I’m 5’4
awesome content brah
Thx!
I skate 15” wheelbase.. i am 6’5 with broad shoulders and like a 35 ish inseam… ive always wondered ron. How you skate regular sized wheelbase man! I skate the antihero 9.0” 33.25 long , 15.00 wheel base.. its perfect.
When I was 17 and first got to start making my own deck shapes at nhs the first one I made was 32-33" long and had a 15"+ wheelbase - a lot like the board you're talking about. Fast fwd to mid 20's I was riding a 7.5 with around 14.5 wb. I think since I started skating a lot through the end of the 80's/early 90's and all the changes skateboards went though (from 80's vert boards with 67mm wheels to football shapes with 43mm wheels) it made it easier to get used to smaller decks.
@@NHSSkateDirect awesome, encourage sc to make decks around that width and length with a 15 wheelbase and youll have a customer in me, thats for sure!
I have been skating the Creature Micro Completes and love em but Would Love to have a wider deck than 7.25 for some spec trucks be nice to have a 8.25 X 28.25 11.25 WB
I ride an 8.5 with a 14 3/8 wheelbase. Length 32 or above
Sick. Thanks for sharing!
Are there any 8.5 or 8.25 deck with a 14wb or less for 5'-0" tall adult riders?
I ride a 9"x32" Girl deck with a 13.875 WB. The call the shape "love seat" on their site. I tried the larger 9.25x32 Girl deck with the same 13.875 WB, and while it was fun, it's a little heavy. I am stoked to try these new Creature Stumps though.
The Santa Cruz Delfino Tarot VX Deck 8.25in x 31.60in is coming out in September and has a 14" wheelbase.
Also, it looks like in Novemeber there's the Creature Claws Everslick 8.43in x 31.62in.
What I really want is a 8.6 with a 14.25” wheelbase, a 7” Nose, and a 6 3/4” tail that would be my ideal creature, and also in VX because I’m a heavy dude. That would be the dream
The closest deck that we have to that right now is this Santa Cruz Transcend Hands VX Deck 8.80in x 31.95in. We're out of them right now but it looks like there's more coming around the end of July. Here's one I found online: www.focusmadison.com/products/santa-cruz-transcend-stack-dot-vx-skateboard-deck-8-8?variant=39890852905119
With the pandemic and not being able to produce enough decks for the demand of skateboarding lately we aren't able to make as many special constructions like VX and everslick as we'd like.
I'm actually about to ride that deck too. VX rules.
Pls I'm begging for Creature Dweller Hard Rock Maple Skateboard Deck - 8.00"
Video
I just ordered a 14wb Salba tiger hand for transitions.. Did I mess up? Thoughts please.
What kind of a board do I need to skate like Ron??!!
What setup would you recommend to an old ass man(me) with weak legs that's trying to make ollies as easy as possible? Short board, 14.25 WB that's as light as possible ...maybe?
I'm tossed between wb big time. I feel like I want a wider stance so my feet can move around comfortably but I want it to flip easy. Maybe I need a thinner board long wb @NHS Skate Direct
Thanks for this enlightening insight on skateboard wheelbase dynamics. I'm currently looking at the Creature Stumps Logo 9.0 deck. Can you please give me a recommendation on what size and model of Independent truck (159?) and riser pad I would need for a 58mm or 60mm wheel? Thanks in advance for your professional advice.
I would go with Standard Independent 159's (8.75 in wide).I you want your trucks to be a little bigger you could go 169's (9.125 in wide). 1/8 riser pad for 58. 1/4 for 60mm if you ride you trucks loose. You could probably get away with 1/8 if not too loose.
Hope that helps!
@@NHSSkateDirect These recommendations are very helpful. Thanks a bunch!
I'm a long-wheelbase-guy but it's great to see this sort of thing become available! I've always thought the wheelbase was very underrated in its importance, and that it went a long way towards the feeling associated with wider decks despite the fact that you could theoretically have both a shorter wheelbase and a wider board. Well, now it's not theoretical any more lol. I think that there are a lot of skaters who would love these, because it's got both the added legroom of a wider board and the quick response of a shorter wheelbase.
It's great to be able to have more options when it comes to wheelbases and widths. Great to hear so many opinions on the importance of WB. Thanks for sharing!
i definitely like to see it explored more, a lot of "competition" riders are pushing their "custom" shapes the majority of them are short WB setups bc all the flip in flip out convenience of having your feet close together mid slide/trick vs a longer board...but for us regular riders a longer board definitely helps add some grace to going wall to wall in transition or blasting over coping and back in. I could totally see maintaining 32" length vs 32.5 if i went wider. Just out of comfort of riding 8.38x32 for 10 years. Then again reynolds has had his 8.46 baker shape in rotation for YEARS which is a shorter WB. Yet for the longest time he rode 139s with that...and here i am with 6.1s and 159 standard stage x on 8.38s this last decade. and recently as venture brought upon the 6.1 highs. I just generally dont do a majorilty of my fliptricks that i did back when i rode 8.13s or 8" boards with thunder 149s. Once i got older/more injured, my skating catered towards parks/transition and the bigger axle/hanger is just a life-hack luxury aspect to my style of skating and need to tweak out my nose grinds and cross hanger crooks. Power sliding is also its own ballgame when you ride 8.75 axle on 8.38 with conical fulls. The large axle clearance and hard/edge on conical shaped wheels leads to quite a setup i even convinced hewitt to try 8.38 and 159s. Now grimple makes a oval 8.38 which happens to be my favorite shape. hewitt used to ride 8.5s and 169s but he still rides 169s with his 8.6 setups just funny to think i got one of my favorite skaters to try my setup for the little luxury it offers.
Yo the clip at 2:52 is my old local
Can you put OJ 60s on this 9in creature deck and still feel the benefit of shorter wheel base?
Do twin tails
Yo I got the Winkowski creature deck and I was wondering what's the wheelbase on this model?
Would 149 indys work well with the 8.51 stump?
Yes. Perfect fit.
8.25 deck on 31.625 lenght and 14.1 wheelbase please.
Is the creature stubs and the santa cruz boat the same shape? Or does one have a different taper then the other?
I'm a old new skater , and dropping in with a 14.5 wb is scary
id stay away from ventures then....they BLAST on long WB and snap into powerslides at will. It was a "for science" steup at times i forgot i wasnt skating indies...air dropping off the top deck instantly ZOOMING and you barely touch tail in the flow section and you just go flying.
Yeah I'm not even 5'7, so I was always wondering if I could get something that would fit my stance width... The options are not very plenty over here in south korea lol BTW I don't see the stumps on the website I think..?
We should be getting them back at nhsfunctory.com around the end of July. Some of our retailers still have them and some ship internationally. Maybe check CCS and Skate Warehouse.
@@NHSSkateDirect Ah yes, I've heard about the shortage going around as well...it would defo be nice to go up a size with the same wheelbase as I've been sticking with a 7.75 forever.
For me WB isnt as noticeable...short seems ideal for "tech" skating or etc...even then id be better off just swapping to thunders and smaller profile wheels before thinking about a WB/deck length swap. Personally deck "RUN" is a lot bigger of a factor to me than .5" garnered towards a nose and tail. Sometimes its just WB...when in reality id rather have .25" on both my nose and tail as extra RUN. For half cabs and impossibles and bs 360s. Same to that added run serving as a "platform" for popping/locking into nose/tail slides a lot easier than a board with a more aggressive/immediate curve on the nose/tail from bolts. WB aside. I guess if you ONLY skated the same wheels/trucks all the time a WB swap would be more Practical of a concept to adapt...I just need that "length" vs a shortie...for those airs/transfers...nothing worse than your front foot coming off mid fs/bs air...or for fs and bs lips in transition makes for some epic Slams esp when youre front foot comes off slightly on those airs...and you land with your front foot too close to your top truck and you get tossed or flat bottomed from a hang up....or dont even hang up but land way too nose heavy and instantly wheelbite on contact/land.
Ron whaley rules
wheelbase is more important! i can skate any deck with but i cant skate longer than 14" and still keep all my tricks!
Speaking of wheelbase. I haven't been able to find an 8.25 under or 14 inches in wheelbase
The shortest we have coming out soon is the Santa Cruz Delfino Tarot VX Deck 8.25in x 31.60in.
It has a 14" wheelbase.
We should have those around late September.
@@NHSSkateDirect Thanks guys :)
More important than width is wheelbase
I think so too. Or at least as important.
funny this video just pops up, when i bought a 8.25 stumps deck.......
How long does it take for a order to be shipped?
From us check here: www.nhsfunfactory.com/shipping-returns
@@NHSSkateDirect ty
@@NHSSkateDirect I live in Cali so it’s gonna take 3-4 business days?
I thought ron skates rictas n krux but i guess hes just NHS anything so it doesnt matter
I also prefer the chode boards
I and pretty short 156cm and have short legs but i like my boards around 8.0-8.125" wide. But i feel most boards that wide are usually pretty long for me. Like all the tricks and motions are HUGE for me. I would LOVE a board 8.125" wide, around 30" long and a wheelbase around 12-12.5. Do you have any options?? Or know where i could go for help? I mean i could get good and turn pro so i can have a custom board shape but that seems like a lot of work just to find a board i like
So a 12/12.5 wb is pretty short. The shortest wheelbase decks we sell are 14" wb.
We do have skate completes with smaller wheelbases but they aren't that wide. Our micros have 11" wb, minis, 13" and mid completes are 13.5. www.nhsfunfactory.com/skate/complete-skateboards
Also, are you measure from the holes in the deck?
Ron still rips dude.
Please don't call these 'shorter wheelbases' when an 8.25" is still 14.2" though.... I mean, it's no 15" wheelbase, but pretty much no deck even has that unless you really go up in width (8.75", 9" etc.). I'd wish the 8.25" had a 14" or even 13.5" wheelbase, not even kidding. 14.25" is pretty much already a standard, which I wouldn't refer to as 'short'.
U must be the "Stump" then if you need a 13.5 wheelbase for your 8.25 LOL
@@timburrow2996 Not really, as I am 6ft1 actually. I just like a shorter wheelbase for how it allows a less wide positioning of both feet on the board.
True, the 8.5 and 8.25 are around an average wheelbase. Def not long. 14.1 on the 8" is pretty short (IMO). It's those wider sizes: the 8.8 and 9 that rarely have WB under 14.5.
Appreciate the feedback! I'll pass it along. -RW
@@PHeMoX Interesting, I am 5'11 size 11.5 foot. I cant stand anything under 14.5 wheelbase for any type of transtiton it drives me crazy. now for flip tricks and street skating i love the 14.25 and even have a 14" wheelbase cruiser that is really fun.
nhs please make smaller retro cruiser. 10 inch is too big to take on the train..
We got some smaller cruisers as well. Right now the smallest are 8.4in x 29.4in. nhsfunfactory.com/collections/skate-cruisers-longboards
@@NHSSkateDirect thanks, im liking the look of it too
Jeez it looks like you're riding a size 6 your shoes are so big
wheelbaeth
Ted shreds
Right!? Amen
heroin skateboards make bigger boards with a shorter wheelbases!
I've got a fresh Santa Cruz 'matte finish' on Slime Balls and Indie hallows 8.25, I LUV IT!
Phat Air and Rad Tricks btw!
Nice!
9.25/9.38/9.5 popsicle stump would be a dream come true
The 149 indipendet truck are ideal for these boars ?
Yea for a 8.5 deck
14,25“ wb on anything above 8,5“ feel great for me personally. Big feet require me to ride bigger boards, and I haven’t felt so comfy on a board since the 9“ Eric Dressen Rose cross board with 14,25“wb. If I can get my hands on some Creature Stomps in Europe - I will!
Also:
MAKE MORE WINKOWSKI DECKS SO EVERYONE CAN GET SOME 😅
@ghostdancing when it reads in deck specs that WB is for example 14,25“, it means from inner bolt hole to inner bolt hole. The actual axle is further apart than that with every truck. But yeah, Indys and ACEs have some the shortest wheelbases, hence the great turning!
Ventures turn the worst in my opinion, but they do serve that pop real good!
Same here with the size 13's. Santa Cruz and Creature share some of the same shapes including the 8.8 and 9.0 Stumps. For Santa Cruz they were called the Snakebite boats at first and have the same 14.25 wheelbase. Keep an eye out for Creature or Santa Cruz decks that have those dimensions but they might not always be called Stumps or Boats. For example there's a Dressen Pup Dot 9.0 and it's the same as the 9.0 stump. Looks like a screaming hand version as well.
So true. Truck types make a big difference. I remember trying to older Ventures on my friends board and it felt like it added wheelbase. Quicker turning trucks seem to shorten the wheelbase and slower turning trucks lengthen.
Low trucks or really lightweight trucks add their differences as well. Technically wheelbase is the distance from your wheels but aside from choosing a truck brand it comes down to the mounting hardware holes.
If you measure where the axle sits in between the mounting hardware holes on the truck you can determine which trucks move the axle away from the inside bolt holes (making your wheelbase longer) and which one stay closer towards the inside (shorter wheelbase). Shout out to to Ben D!
@@MarcoEckhardt also they power slide like no other prob bc the WB/wider riding stance. As always IMO indys turn the best gold standard in transition, thunder metal to metal grind the best unlike any other they FLY on metal coping/rails, venture POP the best BS/FS airs with ventures make me feel like im cheating on indys..and the ventures BLAST with minimal speed in flow/park. But indys just have that genuine classic/gold standard skate/feel. ESP at high speeds. 1/2 of me feels like i skate indys just bc of the pros/legends that did and i dont want to miss out on that FEEL/RIDE to feel what they feel or ride what they ride. Yet when i do a snappy bs 180 all boned or a brute fs/bs air with ventures...i feel like more of a skater than any truck ive skated.
Creature 4 life
Imma short asian guy who wants to ride big boards so 9.1inch deck wit 13.875 wheel base and 9.75 deck with 14.125 are quite good for me🥳
Good to know. Thanks for sharing those dimensions. I'll pass them along.
I ride a 8.5, 14 3/8wb, mellow kicks, 6.6 tail with indy forged. I wonder how much the shorter tail/wheelbase would help, feels heavy sometimes.. might have to try one of these out 👍
You have the Forged hollows?
@@pauliewalnuts5241 yes
@@isaaclapierre4097 how do you like them
@@pauliewalnuts5241 I like em a lot, the weight is nice. It changes the pop a bit and depending the setup can be good or bad.
I used to have both standard plates and forged and would switch em out depending the setup but I threw away my standard plates :(
concave & wheelbase are definitely top 2 things I consider on a new board. 14.25 is usually what I end up with, but 14.6 is super comfortable to me also. For rails/ledges especially. (Also steep concave forever.)
Steep concaves can make your deck stronger as well. Sounds like a future video. ;)
Same here, I keep going back and forth 8.5 and 9.0 but they have the same wheelbase so it makes it easier to switch.
Thanks for sharing!
XD yep im insane... i love flat tapered shaped boards ive ridden 8.38 and 8.75 axle for almost 10 years. First 159 standards and bakers and krookeds. Now mostly bakers/grimple and 159s and venture 6.1s. I mean i also ride 8.8-9.25 shaped boards with the same trucks so i generally just got used to them. Plus i ride conical full shapes for life 54-56. So that hard edge and lean mixed with wider axles makes for a really fun park/flow setup. I mean can ride concave as well often do when i buy those 2x80$ mystery deck boxes. Id just rather be on ventures or thunders with concave. I mean i love to do slashers/slash into grinds and powerslide so longer and conical fulls are where its at...and i love to lean. I just got used to flat boards with a heap of RUN for impossiles and spin variations. The weight of the wider axle/hanger trucks and fat conical wheels help a lot for big spins/full cabs/bs360s and impossibles when i have some run/flat noses vs an aggressive nose. Yet if i have a flat nose/profile with concave my foot comes off on airs. So when ride concave i need rounded nose/squared shape, and a more aggressive kick. Skatings a hoot
awesome demo, great product. I like how creature has deck dimensions info.
Those Indys Whalen is riding are looking a lot like the old Indy stage 3’s 👀
They're the new(ish) Indy mids.
@@NHSSkateDirect Yea he mentioned in the video it's just the hangers are looking sleeker. Either way Ron rules and I always enjoy these videos he does!
i like 15, tried a 9 stump and it's nice too , imo 15 gives me more leverage and I'm 6 ft
8.25 with 14” WB is what we need
Seems like a popular request.
Santa Cruz Delfino Tarot VX Deck 8.25in x 31.60in
It has a 14" wheelbase.
We should have those around late September.
Thank you