There will never be another team in league like OG C9. They were ridiculously good and really fun at the same time. And apparently were purchased for $2000 each. ;)
@@RetroRaine They took from the Koreans and emulated their style best and adapted quicker than anyone in NA, including the best team in NA at the time TSM.
OG c9 was like G2. I can't believe both teams didn't just stay together. G2 at least got MSI. C9 still actually made it to the Semi finals in 2018 at Worlds. It was a pretty bad year at worlds cause of all the 3-0 stomps but still it was NA's best running since Season 1 in 2011.
@@WisteriaBerlitz Then it is indeed the same story and the joke remains the same. Just when you thought players like Jensen and Santorin were cerebral ;)
I literally opened the 100 Thieves vs Clutch Gaming match from 2018 (which Meteos had mentioned in another Sneaky Clips) and I watched the whole 75 minutes just because I missed seeing him on stage THAT much. 😭 🤧 It was a hell of a game too! Aphromoo and Cody Sun botlane, Ssumday up top...ugh. Nothing quite like the old days. The team comraderie was felt even by us viewers. Their vibes were infectious!! 💗 Tbh, I feel like that's part of the reason why Sneaky and Meteos STILL get so much traction on their streams. They still have that vibe, and we keep coming back to join them and listen and enjoy what they have to say.
@@lizzb1065 i thinks it's coz of their transparency about what they feel , unlike nowadays where everything has to be filtered through PR before you give your opinion on something. Memeos and sneaky just tell you how it is and that's why I love em
@@snow1498 That's a really great point too! They're so genuine about who they are and what they say. It makes me feel like I know them personally (even though I don't lol) They don't seem to put on a front or try to be more likeable/marketable like so many others who have a platform do. I just love 'em as they are!!!
I think that's one of the reasons EG was so exciting last year, like there was the "young NA talent" meme but they really *seemed* to have camaraderie and good vibes with each. Turns out...
@@PlsDontReadThis123 I don't know what you mean. What I mean is that back in the day teams were made outside of sponsors and we're mostly friends. The teams functioned because they picked people based on team integration. Now they buy imports to fill specific roles and they add nothing to the existing brand of the team.
clg with the rush hour bot lane, tsm with the dyrus pillow baylife the general bjergerking, clg with snacky and memeos lemonation the pick ban genius with his notebook hai retiring and coming back to play like 3 roles becuase his shot calling was major key, dignitas with voyboy, the prophet crumbz, imacutiepie raising his donger. just to name a bit of the personality
there was barely any money in the scene at the time as well as relegations, so it makes sense. plus, that was the beginning of c9 the org. they didnt even have mang0 yet
As for LoL Esports, the low hanging fruits have been picked. It's different now because it's overall more competitive. Getting a spot is harder these days. That's why it's unusual to have friends reach the same level of professional gameplay and make it together to the stage.
This reminds me when team liquid won with DL and they were wanting to swap a player and double lift vocally said why we just won with this team then he got booted
thats not what happened. the team wanted to make changes he didnt they signed Broxah but he couldnt make it in time i think due to Visa issues so they played half a split without him, were not doing well and then Broxah came and wasnt that good and DL tilted off a cliff and not only wasnt performing but self admitted he was being super negative about the whole situation and at the time he was performing kind of bad and tactical came in and look actually decent for the split. now tactical fell off a cliff but it didnt seem like some insane dogshit choice and besides coreJJ at the time the team had no real paly makers and was always going to have the same issue of not doing enough early and trying to scale and out teamfight teams and that doesnt work against good teams internationally.
What i remember is that the team wanted to change Xmithie and DL didnt. The team (or rather, the management) replaced him anyway. Add in the Senna/Aphelios meta (in which DL hated Senna and taught it a dogshit champion) and his own attitude towards the entire thing and Tactical looking decent enough... they decided to let DL go to another team, TSM let Kobbe go and pick DL up, then TSM won the split and got 0-6'd at worlds. Fun times
I know it was sort of a necessary evolution for the scene, but I still feel like franchising killed the heart and soul of the League pro scene, or at least what was special about it. Back in the day, if you were good enough, you could LITERALLY get a group of five people, climb the ranked ladder with your team, and qualify for an LCS spot. How insanely cool is that as a player of the game - to have such a direct path to pro that's purely meritocratic. Of course, there was barely any money to be made back then, so being a pro wasn't exactly lucrative, but still... there was a magic to competitive league back then that nobody who wasn't playing at the time could understand now. Back then, teams had IDENTITIES, and team's brands were interwoven with the collective brands of their rosters. Rosters didn't completely change between splits, and being a fan of a team meant more than just being a fan of the organization itself. Things were more personal, more hype, and the storylines were insane. It's no wonder interest has fallen off a cliff despite the mountain of money that's been invested. Riot focused too hard on forcing League to imitate the structure of conventional sports and lost a lot of what made it so special to their playerbase.
C9 balls, reason why I love playing trundle. And why I loved C9, even after he left I was still a fan. Truth be told I met all of them at IEM(forgot which one) when they played against UOL unicorn of love. Met the original C9 then. Also the reason why I use hyper x hardware cause of C9 😅
this is why I don't follow esports anymore. it's just like any other sport now. the early days of tsm, clg, c9, dig, curse had heart. now it's just a corpo franchise machine.
unfortunately its the future of every sports. I believe there is still camaraderie when you are a top team and winning, but if you want to actually compete in this changing landscape, you have to throw something out of the window. it hurts me too but sometimes, friendship just wasn't strong enough. Like how old C9, and 2016 TSM to mind, where everyone was family to each other.
As soon as big money investors enter the picture the sport is ruined. I started losing interest in pro sports when free agency became all the rage and teams just changed out players like you would change a pair of shoes. And also the richest teams just bought up all the best players from the poorer teams. That's how the LCS is now and there is no loyalty to teammates or certainly from the orgs. Fat Jack was one of the first to prove that when he falsely claimed HAI wanted to retire for health reasons so he could bring in a hotshot SoloQ Mid named Incarnati0n from EU. And then one-by-one Fat Jack backstabbed the rest of the OG team culminating with Sneaky who was still one of the best ADC's in the West when C9 dumped him for Zven (great choice!).
I cant believe the owner of quantic was that broke and retarded to sell it for 10 measley k. Imagine how much he regrets that shit to this day. Jack absolutely gaped him on that deal.
Last I heard his still a high diamond player but he just stepped away from the pro scene and that’s it. I know he still plays cause there is always a diamond/Master rumble player in the NA ladder that people believe is balls.
There will never be another team in league like OG C9. They were ridiculously good and really fun at the same time. And apparently were purchased for $2000 each. ;)
They were super good and had fresh strats. Really miss the og c9.
FPX that won world's, ROX Tigers, Kingzone that lost finals at MSI, og G2. There were a lot of teams like them.
@@RetroRaine They took from the Koreans and emulated their style best and adapted quicker than anyone in NA, including the best team in NA at the time TSM.
OG c9 was like G2. I can't believe both teams didn't just stay together. G2 at least got MSI. C9 still actually made it to the Semi finals in 2018 at Worlds. It was a pretty bad year at worlds cause of all the 3-0 stomps but still it was NA's best running since Season 1 in 2011.
$10k is definitely a lot, considering Dignitas was paying their players in mousepads and merch/swag
But DIG had huge incentives for every Baron they successfully slayed. Unfortunately they never gained those incentives.
@@GodLovesComics Dignitas gets Baron every now and then, it's just that they get aced or the classic Baron for Nexus trade
@@WisteriaBerlitz Then it is indeed the same story and the joke remains the same. Just when you thought players like Jensen and Santorin were cerebral ;)
And thats why I love memeos man , hes a real one
I literally opened the 100 Thieves vs Clutch Gaming match from 2018 (which Meteos had mentioned in another Sneaky Clips) and I watched the whole 75 minutes just because I missed seeing him on stage THAT much. 😭 🤧 It was a hell of a game too! Aphromoo and Cody Sun botlane, Ssumday up top...ugh. Nothing quite like the old days. The team comraderie was felt even by us viewers. Their vibes were infectious!! 💗 Tbh, I feel like that's part of the reason why Sneaky and Meteos STILL get so much traction on their streams. They still have that vibe, and we keep coming back to join them and listen and enjoy what they have to say.
@@lizzb1065 i thinks it's coz of their transparency about what they feel , unlike nowadays where everything has to be filtered through PR before you give your opinion on something. Memeos and sneaky just tell you how it is and that's why I love em
@@snow1498 That's a really great point too! They're so genuine about who they are and what they say. It makes me feel like I know them personally (even though I don't lol) They don't seem to put on a front or try to be more likeable/marketable like so many others who have a platform do. I just love 'em as they are!!!
I think that's one of the reasons EG was so exciting last year, like there was the "young NA talent" meme but they really *seemed* to have camaraderie and good vibes with each. Turns out...
Og c9 is why I’ve been a c9 fan ever since. Win or lose og c9 made me a fan for life. Gj jack
The good old days. Back when teams had a real identity and werent a random group of people.
Lol is this a joke? Because its a random team coming up through relegations to get an LCS spot back then vs curated teams (but also full of imports)
@@PlsDontReadThis123 I don't know what you mean.
What I mean is that back in the day teams were made outside of sponsors and we're mostly friends. The teams functioned because they picked people based on team integration.
Now they buy imports to fill specific roles and they add nothing to the existing brand of the team.
clg with the rush hour bot lane, tsm with the dyrus pillow baylife the general bjergerking, clg with snacky and memeos lemonation the pick ban genius with his notebook hai retiring and coming back to play like 3 roles becuase his shot calling was major key, dignitas with voyboy, the prophet crumbz, imacutiepie raising his donger. just to name a bit of the personality
OG Cloud 9 was so good. Who can forget the worlds Hai Teemo pick.
what about de zed bush play too, good old times
@@andersonrock777 against Xpeke Talon?
@@reptileescape3619 i believe was againt sansung? where he was sneaking through fog on lane while split push
I was an LCS watcher, and I had no idea it was 10k for C9 then. I very much assumed it was at least 100x that. Dahell.
there was barely any money in the scene at the time as well as relegations, so it makes sense. plus, that was the beginning of c9 the org. they didnt even have mang0 yet
You were an LCS fan before C9 existed as well?
good ol snek and meet, Miss this.
As for LoL Esports, the low hanging fruits have been picked. It's different now because it's overall more competitive. Getting a spot is harder these days. That's why it's unusual to have friends reach the same level of professional gameplay and make it together to the stage.
I think it has less to do with the competitive ceiling being raised (which it has) and more to do with franchising and how the ecosystem operates now.
that's why I love the Zven and Berserker duo :)
This reminds me when team liquid won with DL and they were wanting to swap a player and double lift vocally said why we just won with this team then he got booted
thats not what happened. the team wanted to make changes he didnt they signed Broxah but he couldnt make it in time i think due to Visa issues so they played half a split without him, were not doing well and then Broxah came and wasnt that good and DL tilted off a cliff and not only wasnt performing but self admitted he was being super negative about the whole situation and at the time he was performing kind of bad and tactical came in and look actually decent for the split. now tactical fell off a cliff but it didnt seem like some insane dogshit choice and besides coreJJ at the time the team had no real paly makers and was always going to have the same issue of not doing enough early and trying to scale and out teamfight teams and that doesnt work against good teams internationally.
Not what happened. At all. DL has double standards. If a teammate just decided they didn’t care for a few weeks he’d want them kicked too.
DL fans and rewriting history, thats literally not what happened at all. DL was being an absolute man child and sand bagged the team.
Your a legend
What i remember is that the team wanted to change Xmithie and DL didnt. The team (or rather, the management) replaced him anyway. Add in the Senna/Aphelios meta (in which DL hated Senna and taught it a dogshit champion) and his own attitude towards the entire thing and Tactical looking decent enough... they decided to let DL go to another team, TSM let Kobbe go and pick DL up, then TSM won the split and got 0-6'd at worlds. Fun times
I know it was sort of a necessary evolution for the scene, but I still feel like franchising killed the heart and soul of the League pro scene, or at least what was special about it. Back in the day, if you were good enough, you could LITERALLY get a group of five people, climb the ranked ladder with your team, and qualify for an LCS spot. How insanely cool is that as a player of the game - to have such a direct path to pro that's purely meritocratic. Of course, there was barely any money to be made back then, so being a pro wasn't exactly lucrative, but still... there was a magic to competitive league back then that nobody who wasn't playing at the time could understand now. Back then, teams had IDENTITIES, and team's brands were interwoven with the collective brands of their rosters. Rosters didn't completely change between splits, and being a fan of a team meant more than just being a fan of the organization itself. Things were more personal, more hype, and the storylines were insane. It's no wonder interest has fallen off a cliff despite the mountain of money that's been invested. Riot focused too hard on forcing League to imitate the structure of conventional sports and lost a lot of what made it so special to their playerbase.
What this team could have been if Hai did not have his lung collapse and then wrist problems
And even then, they were the 2nd best in NA, best NA team internationally, for years
i feel like they could have done some damage at worlds before every other major region were just so much better than NA
C9 balls, reason why I love playing trundle. And why I loved C9, even after he left I was still a fan. Truth be told I met all of them at IEM(forgot which one) when they played against UOL unicorn of love. Met the original C9 then. Also the reason why I use hyper x hardware cause of C9 😅
this is why I don't follow esports anymore. it's just like any other sport now. the early days of tsm, clg, c9, dig, curse had heart. now it's just a corpo franchise machine.
facts
unfortunately its the future of every sports. I believe there is still camaraderie when you are a top team and winning, but if you want to actually compete in this changing landscape, you have to throw something out of the window. it hurts me too but sometimes, friendship just wasn't strong enough. Like how old C9, and 2016 TSM to mind, where everyone was family to each other.
Because if you want this to be legit and sustain its has to happen. Its the only way esports can grow bigger.
As soon as big money investors enter the picture the sport is ruined. I started losing interest in pro sports when free agency became all the rage and teams just changed out players like you would change a pair of shoes. And also the richest teams just bought up all the best players from the poorer teams. That's how the LCS is now and there is no loyalty to teammates or certainly from the orgs. Fat Jack was one of the first to prove that when he falsely claimed HAI wanted to retire for health reasons so he could bring in a hotshot SoloQ Mid named Incarnati0n from EU. And then one-by-one Fat Jack backstabbed the rest of the OG team culminating with Sneaky who was still one of the best ADC's in the West when C9 dumped him for Zven (great choice!).
@@Darkstormsun9865 ah shit. it's so big. so big bro
OG C9, Samsung White, OG M5 were the best earlier team ever
i love c9
I miss oddone :'(
meteos body pillow 💀
10k to buy the og cloud 9 wtff
I would’ve called my dad and asked
I cant believe the owner of quantic was that broke and retarded to sell it for 10 measley k. Imagine how much he regrets that shit to this day. Jack absolutely gaped him on that deal.
No more OG DIG means no more fun
What happened to balls
Last I heard his still a high diamond player but he just stepped away from the pro scene and that’s it. I know he still plays cause there is always a diamond/Master rumble player in the NA ladder that people believe is balls.
@@marioalfaro8646 He streams a few times a year too. Last I checked he was playing Val with some friends.
He regularly shows up in offlinetv/friends streams playing valo/league. idk about him other than that tho , he seems like a private dude.