Giants were selling out every game for a couple decades and by n large it was legit. The problem now besides a bad gm and crappy team is no one wants to go into San Francisco because of crime, junkies, lack of restaurants and businesses, etc. SF has tanked since the lockdowns
The two biggest factors in the Giants decline in attendance are both pandemic related. One is the huge number of folks in the Bay Area [not just in SF, but the bubble around it] retired during the pandemic, sold their homes for a massive profit and moved out of state. This included a lot of longtime season ticket holders who were diehard fans. The other is just the sheer amount of companies that switched to remote work and abandoned their downtown office space. Many of these companies would give out tickets for their employees to have something to do after work. I could give a crap about the latter because they would show up to hang out and could care less about baseball. It has a lot less to do with the on field product, Farhan and homeless people than people try to claim.
The astronomical cost of living increases in the past 3 years is one reason why there's a decrease nationwide. Who has the cash to go to these games on a regular basis?
The Braves had a higher attendance than last season but they had two rain outs and also had one 12 pm game. Even with that, they are third in attendance per game average. Braves will probably finish second in attendance and pass the Yankees. They would possibly have the highest attendance, but Truist Park holds nowhere what LA stadium holds.
Cubs fan here. I've had 3 season ticket holders tell me they canceled because of the current economy. 2 of the 3 told me it wasn't in the budget this year. I wonder if this will become a issue with other teams?
That’s cause baseball is so boring. on Average, NFL games last around 30 - 40 minutes longer and the have no attendance problems. Believe it or not, the nfl average viewer rate has gone up since ticktock was made
I'm from St. Louis. In Mid July, there is hardly any nice weather there. UGH! The humidity is off the charts. They should have built a retractable dome.
You are absolutely right about the White Sox. They are rapidly becoming the next A's, and they deserve to be similarly shunned. I would bet my life savings on the attendance numbers tanking further this year. Horrible team, horrible owner, horrible manager, mediocre stadium in the bad side of town, the loss of Jason Benetti. I know I won't be going to any Sox games this year. Probably drive up to Milwaukee and hopefully check out at least one or two other stadiums in the Midwest this year instead.
Have not been out to a game since 2018. Got tired of the rude fans and people in general. Tired of the higher ticket prices, and now don’t really like the DH. Would have preferred they did something a bit different to keep the NL style of play. Used to be a season ticket holder and dropped them in 17.
The 2023 numbers don't match ESPN's final attendance numbers, are these supposed to be an apple to apples comparison? i.e. 2023 through 12-14 games vs 2024 through 12-14 games?
Is there a better outfield district / wall / bullpen configuration than Rogers Centre? I don't think so. I'd rather be in that Outfield District than anywhere else in the ballpark, maybe with the exception of the three new clubs that will be completed around the infield.
Cleveland has had pretty bad weather the first couple of games. We’ve had a good start but idk how well we’re gonna do against better teams. If we continue like this, Cleveland’s attendance is probably going to be like it was last year. And we’ve only had 3 home games, one was canceled due to heavy rain.
Back in the day, baseball started in mid April. Now it starts in late March. Maybe if they went back to opening in mid April, weather wouldn't be such a big factor as it is now. But with the modern day expanded playoffs, that's not going to happen of course.
White Sox have been terrible. Only 2 wins so far. And yet they are beating Cleveland and KC in attendance despite the fact that the Guardians and Royals are playing well. Who really should relocate?
Don't count on Baltimore seeing a huge lift. They absolutely dominated the AL east last year and still only averaged 22.7k. sure they may sell out a few games, but those mid week games that draw 12-18k is really going to impact average attendance big time for time.
@@Daniel.Salvatierra I can see that happening. If you're an A's fan and know it's the last game they'll ever play in Oakland, you'll likely put aside your distaste for Fisher and want to say you were there for that final game. Plus, how can you turn down a free seat from the Coliseum to take home with you. Could be worth 50 bucks or more someday to a collector.
That's what the fans did at old Cleveland Municipal Stadium after the last Cleveland Browns home game after Art Modell sold us out to Baltimore, I know I was at that game and I seen people already tearing up parts of the stadium and carrying sections of seats out
Bizarre thought: A's situation has been crazy. However, if they add 6-8k seats to that small stadium in Sacramento, small stadium model may explode for B market teams. That particular stadium may not work, but lower overhead with a strong TV package may be the answer going forward.
If ALL goes well in Sacramento, and the A's CONTINUE to have issues with Vegas, they MAY STAY in Sacramento. The city already said they would welcome them to build a stadium.
in denver its been warm. i think its cause the team is less hope. the home opener while a sell out there had to be 15k no shows..... in the last week they have had their lowest attendance ever at less than 20k. this team is bad and people are finally seeing it.
Bidumb's economy will eventually ruin every entertainment venue, whether sports, movies or whatever. We have food, shelter and gas to buy before we can waste any money on anything frivolous.
@@scottbussey499 the prices for tickets at Fenway are beyond insane. The team is a mix of retreads & 2nd rate prospects. It is hard to justify paying money to see them.
Dont have aby power?? Excuse me mr ginger. But Josh Naylor has a 231 OPS plus through 15 games. Jimenez and Kwan are batting 350+, and just about every sterter has hit 2 homers or more
Because this guy has no idea what he's doing. He also made an "attendance trends" video last week when 12/30 of the teams only played 0 or 1 games at home LOL
They should delay opening the regular season by at least two weeks. It’s just plain cold especially in the northern cities. Also toss the A’s, Rays, marlins, Royals in the trash heap.
@ronnie. Actually baseball used to begin in mid April. But that was way back during the old 2 divisions per league setup. When they expanded the playoffs around 1995, they began to start the season sooner... But you probably know all that anyway. 😊
Actually the mid April start of the season goes back to before expansion when the season was 154 games and the 2, 8 team leagues (it went to 162 games in 1961 for the AL and 1962 for the NL when they went to 10 teams each, it was already 162 games in 1969 when they went to divisions, they simply went to an unbalanced schedule then and had to tweak it in order to make it balanced by cutting back on the number of games against teams in the same division)
Detroit has gone from 4 million residents in the 1960's to only 800k now and yet they still have decent figures considering. Good or bad, they are loyal through and through. The best sports fans live in Detroit.
St Louis Cardinals attendance is only down because no one likes what the ownership and management is doing currently. Which is very rare in St Louis. But somehow St Louis always manages to draw 3 million people.
League is killing itself. Who can afford to bring their family to a game in decent seats? The league might as well contract to 16 teams or less. Expansion? Come on.
Bad enough having a stadium in the middle of war torn ghettos , but putting a shit team on the field in a stadium in a war torn ghetto isn’t exactly great business sense
The NY Mets don’t really draw that well considering their huge market. They have never drawn as many fans at Citi Field as their last year in Shea Stadium when they averaged 50K. The idea that a new stadium automatically increases attendance is not true. Mets fans are tired of their losing.
Please get it through your head, the white Sox will not leave the massive market of Chicago!! Invest in players, build a stadium district or build around the current stadium, and Sox fans and casuals will come to the ballpark or watch on TV
Illinois is LOSING population. Philadelphia is a massive market too. They had two teams once. Same with San Francisco Bay area. US Demographics are moving south and west
New York lost two teams in the same year. The White Sox may not get a decent offer this time, and they may move --either to another city or outside of Cook County but in Chicagoland.
@@stephanechamberland8486 52k in the new Stadium. Ever since Selig retired baseball has been in a rut. They don’t market the stars and kids don’t care like in the 90s early 00s
Just have the Yankees vs Dodgers play the ws in May and save us all the money and bullshit, baseball sucks now and is waaaaayyyy overpriced for a kids game, lost me years ago
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Dodgers attendance is down because people can't afford the tickets
Because they ARE OVER-PRICED! NEED I SAY MORE!
Agreed
Amen!
@user-zm4rw5bs3x yeah dude, I assumed people were smart enough to understand where I was coming from. You could of said less.
Same with the Jays....$200 per ticket down the lines....for a baseball game. WTF
Giants were selling out every game for a couple decades and by n large it was legit. The problem now besides a bad gm and crappy team is no one wants to go into San Francisco because of crime, junkies, lack of restaurants and businesses, etc. SF has tanked since the lockdowns
dude, when was there last time you been to the China Basin in SF? full of cops and super safe... stop watching Fox
Everything is closed around the stadium. Terrible.
SF is a typical Dem run rathole.
The two biggest factors in the Giants decline in attendance are both pandemic related. One is the huge number of folks in the Bay Area [not just in SF, but the bubble around it] retired during the pandemic, sold their homes for a massive profit and moved out of state. This included a lot of longtime season ticket holders who were diehard fans. The other is just the sheer amount of companies that switched to remote work and abandoned their downtown office space. Many of these companies would give out tickets for their employees to have something to do after work. I could give a crap about the latter because they would show up to hang out and could care less about baseball. It has a lot less to do with the on field product, Farhan and homeless people than people try to claim.
Ohtani did not want to sign with SF because of the crime. That city is a socialist paradise.
The Cardinals will always draw good attendance because they're diehards.
The astronomical cost of living increases in the past 3 years is one reason why there's a decrease nationwide. Who has the cash to go to these games on a regular basis?
-3% for the Phillies is because no home series has been without rain thus far. Just poop weather.
The Braves had a higher attendance than last season but they had two rain outs and also had one 12 pm game. Even with that, they are third in attendance per game average.
Braves will probably finish second in attendance and pass the Yankees. They would possibly have the highest attendance, but Truist Park holds nowhere what LA stadium holds.
Definitely will have the highest percentage.
Does Ginger think every city is cold in the North or in the mountains?
I mean it was snowing for the pirates home opener this year iirc 😅
Isn’t that generally how temperatures work? The further north, the cooler temp, at least in general? I guess there’s one or two outliers?
@@RevAlSharptonz It hasn't been that cold this spring in most places.
@@TJR93 yeah but this could include UK high wind speed sometimes its not cold its just windy lol
The Blue Jays attendance is down but revenues up with prices increased due to renovations.
Cubs fan here. I've had 3 season ticket holders tell me they canceled because of the current economy. 2 of the 3 told me it wasn't in the budget this year. I wonder if this will become a issue with other teams?
Cuz tiktok glueeaters can’t watch a game or sit still for more than 15 seconds
It's joked in East Asia that the Americans don't have the attention span or patience for Baseball anymore
That’s cause baseball is so boring. on Average, NFL games last around 30 - 40 minutes longer and the have no attendance problems. Believe it or not, the nfl average viewer rate has gone up since ticktock was made
Braves have had two rain outs and a 12pm start game and still average 38k a game. Those fuckers print money.
I'm from St. Louis. In Mid July, there is hardly any nice weather there. UGH! The humidity is off the charts. They should have built a retractable dome.
Same goes for Detroit.
You are absolutely right about the White Sox. They are rapidly becoming the next A's, and they deserve to be similarly shunned. I would bet my life savings on the attendance numbers tanking further this year. Horrible team, horrible owner, horrible manager, mediocre stadium in the bad side of town, the loss of Jason Benetti. I know I won't be going to any Sox games this year. Probably drive up to Milwaukee and hopefully check out at least one or two other stadiums in the Midwest this year instead.
Sad, cause food decent
Just this season hopefully. Once their top prospects come up 2025/2026 will be better.
The Sox moving fixes nothing. Every problem with the team was brought on by themselves
@@joemccullough4246 I agree. Jerry is at the core of most of these issues.
The White Sox are bad enough when healthy; now most of their best players are injured.
Have not been out to a game since 2018. Got tired of the rude fans and people in general. Tired of the higher ticket prices, and now don’t really like the DH. Would have preferred they did something a bit different to keep the NL style of play. Used to be a season ticket holder and dropped them in 17.
Have you done a detailed video on the Rogers Center renovation?
The 2023 numbers don't match ESPN's final attendance numbers, are these supposed to be an apple to apples comparison? i.e. 2023 through 12-14 games vs 2024 through 12-14 games?
If the chart is someone else’s work product, you should give them credit.
Is there a better outfield district / wall / bullpen configuration than Rogers Centre? I don't think so. I'd rather be in that Outfield District than anywhere else in the ballpark, maybe with the exception of the three new clubs that will be completed around the infield.
Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, Santo Domingo would gladly take the A's Rays and White Sox. Haha
Yup and pay their stadiums and get a huge tv deal
the Montreal expos games at the time at there 2 last years in the MLB they have in average 13000 attendance by games
Cleveland has had pretty bad weather the first couple of games.
We’ve had a good start but idk how well we’re gonna do against better teams. If we continue like this, Cleveland’s attendance is probably going to be like it was last year. And we’ve only had 3 home games, one was canceled due to heavy rain.
Didn't do so well against Yankees
Rough series
Good turnout tho
Beat Boston on Patriots Day
I dont know about other teams and stadiums but the cubs had 3/4 games in a row it was about 30 with rain/snow
Back in the day, baseball started in mid April. Now it starts in late March. Maybe if they went back to opening in mid April, weather wouldn't be such a big factor as it is now. But with the modern day expanded playoffs, that's not going to happen of course.
White Sox have been terrible. Only 2 wins so far. And yet they are beating Cleveland and KC in attendance despite the fact that the Guardians and Royals are playing well. Who really should relocate?
I'm laughing how for every team in the bottom half with an increase he has said "maybe it's the opening day outlier"
Don't count on Baltimore seeing a huge lift. They absolutely dominated the AL east last year and still only averaged 22.7k. sure they may sell out a few games, but those mid week games that draw 12-18k is really going to impact average attendance big time for time.
They need to start selling those mid day tickets for cheap to schools and and non profit organization
Can the A's rake in 20,000 fans or more for the final home game, and can each fan take their seat home as a souvenir...?
Therre will be more than 20,000
@@Daniel.Salvatierra I can see that happening. If you're an A's fan and know it's the last game they'll ever play in Oakland, you'll likely put aside your distaste for Fisher and want to say you were there for that final game. Plus, how can you turn down a free seat from the Coliseum to take home with you. Could be worth 50 bucks or more someday to a collector.
@michaelmarkowski204 I was checking out tickets this week and it looks a good portion of them are already sold right now
That's what the fans did at old Cleveland Municipal Stadium after the last Cleveland Browns home game after Art Modell sold us out to Baltimore, I know I was at that game and I seen people already tearing up parts of the stadium and carrying sections of seats out
@@Daniel.Salvatierra Will they open Mt. Davis as well.....?
Tigers attendance is up because the whole state is high on the Lions still and need to fill the void
it would be cool if you kept doing these videos every month
Bizarre thought: A's situation has been crazy. However, if they add 6-8k seats to that small stadium in Sacramento, small stadium model may explode for B market teams. That particular stadium may not work, but lower overhead with a strong TV package may be the answer going forward.
If ALL goes well in Sacramento, and the A's CONTINUE to have issues with Vegas, they MAY STAY in Sacramento. The city already said they would welcome them to build a stadium.
in denver its been warm. i think its cause the team is less hope. the home opener while a sell out there had to be 15k no shows..... in the last week they have had their lowest attendance ever at less than 20k. this team is bad and people are finally seeing it.
Chase field better then bottom 5 or 10 stadium older now still good maybe not as modern nice renovation do it good
Mets are playing well now and the weather will get better so hopefully attendance comes back up
They not taking seats out of chase.they need all those seats to have an higher average and keep
Prices low throughout all the prices tiers
The A’s need to start offering travel deals to fans of visiting teams from the East Coast: Boston, NYY, etc.
Bidumb's economy will eventually ruin every entertainment venue, whether sports, movies or whatever. We have food, shelter and gas to buy before we can waste any money on anything frivolous.
Let's go Brandon!
Lots of empty seats at Fenway this year. No buzz around the team anymore. We need a new ownership group to take over.
The Red Sox have become irrelevant.
You got so many championships recently anyway
But I thought you guys were die hard fans?
@@scottbussey499 the prices for tickets at Fenway are beyond insane. The team is a mix of retreads & 2nd rate prospects. It is hard to justify paying money to see them.
DODGER attendance is down because by signing 'Ohtani', game ticket prices have SKY ROCKETED. How else you gonna pay for you're 700-MILLION dollar man.
I make no apologies for my team. Prices have gone up. But I wouldn’t say they’ve sky rocketed.
Who cares it's not your money anyways
MLB and Baseball is Thriving globally. East Asia and Latin America. MLB games getting broadcast on tv. (Especially if a national hero is on a team).
Dont have aby power?? Excuse me mr ginger. But Josh Naylor has a 231 OPS plus through 15 games. Jimenez and Kwan are batting 350+, and just about every sterter has hit 2 homers or more
If the content is about "Attendance" why isn't the 4th column "Attendance per Game" first and sifted sequentially by percentage.
Because this guy has no idea what he's doing. He also made an "attendance trends" video last week when 12/30 of the teams only played 0 or 1 games at home LOL
@@Hydra48 Gotcha, thx
Maybe because he's using a chart made by someone else????
Marlins openned the upper deck today
As a brewers fan do you think we'll be up or down in attendance
Blue Jays are lower because of renovations
They should delay opening the regular season by at least two weeks. It’s just plain cold especially in the northern cities. Also toss the A’s, Rays, marlins, Royals in the trash heap.
@ronnie. Actually baseball used to begin in mid April. But that was way back during the old 2 divisions per league setup. When they expanded the playoffs around 1995, they began to start the season sooner... But you probably know all that anyway. 😊
Actually the mid April start of the season goes back to before expansion when the season was 154 games and the 2, 8 team leagues (it went to 162 games in 1961 for the AL and 1962 for the NL when they went to 10 teams each, it was already 162 games in 1969 when they went to divisions, they simply went to an unbalanced schedule then and had to tweak it in order to make it balanced by cutting back on the number of games against teams in the same division)
@@jcurnutte2007 Exactly right. I started to mention the way it was before 1969, but decided keeping it more recent would be good enough. 😊
Lol the cardinals will not have better attendance in June/July. Really shows how much you follow baseball
Detroit has gone from 4 million residents in the 1960's to only 800k now and yet they still have decent figures considering. Good or bad, they are loyal through and through. The best sports fans live in Detroit.
Too bad Comerica Park sucks.
Contrasting the Yankees and the Mets, Mets fans owe us an explanation.
Idk how the royals are down they are playing good baseball rn
Weather perhaps?
St Louis Cardinals attendance is only down because no one likes what the ownership and management is doing currently. Which is very rare in St Louis. But somehow St Louis always manages to draw 3 million people.
All that money spend for the Mets and they still can draw?? How far will Miami drop?
texas ranger fans dont get to excited about new stadiums they get one every 4 or 5 years.😃
Lol... 😊
Chart sucks. Should compare now vs. this time last year.
Nice
Atlanta, takes a while to get new stadium 🏟️
Easier listen on radio 📻
Braves are third in attendance per game.
@@willp.8120 I know, when your older and the stadium 🏟️ is like 4 1/2 hours away, radio 📻 with a beer 🍺 is just nicer on your own property
Overall. Mlb attendance horrible because of Manfred, a's situation, cities may lose their team
Ironic given Baseball has never been more popular globally than right now
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa mlb was way more popular back then
Eventually baseball players need to cut their bloated salaries.
TV ratings are bad too. Concessions and parking are outrageous.
@@oiler62 exactly
Dude think about it, you have several teams on here that suck and they still have better attendance than the Rays.
did you say the rangers wont make the world series again lmao they have a better shot then most MLB teams
The White Sox ain't going no where
Hopefully to Charlotte.
They should given Illinois population loss
Any chance u get to beat the marlins down. Right. We’re 2-12 give us a F****** break!
White Sox are not relocating. The stadium will be built.
DON'T FORGET! The A's--AS OF SATURDAY (April 13th), are (5-1) in their last 6 games. I think they're gearing up for the post season.
Okay John Fischer😂
Stop you're CRYING and sniveling because your losing you're BELOVED A's!
Where they will cash out spectacularly in the first round like they always do.
League is killing itself. Who can afford to bring their family to a game in decent seats? The league might as well contract to 16 teams or less. Expansion? Come on.
There's plenty of global cities that would glad take any team the Americans don't want.
Tokyo Seoul Taipei Santo Domingo Panama City Havana
When the Pirates start winning the fans will come
Bad enough having a stadium in the middle of war torn ghettos , but putting a shit team on the field in a stadium in a war torn ghetto isn’t exactly great business sense
Without even saying it, im almost positive your a Sox fan 😅
Found the white Sox fan
He’s not a Sox fan, he probably has never been to a game.
@@91_C4_FL I am a Sox fan …Red Sox
Lol the area around the white Sox is fine, I was there literally last night. The stadium is next to frankly some gorgeous houses
Go dbacks
The NY Mets don’t really draw that well considering their huge market. They have never drawn as many fans at Citi Field as their last year in Shea Stadium when they averaged 50K. The idea that a new stadium automatically increases attendance is not true. Mets fans are tired of their losing.
Guardians attendance will tank. We dont like the renovations.
Mike trout will hit 45plus home runs
here after injury
Please get it through your head, the white Sox will not leave the massive market of Chicago!!
Invest in players, build a stadium district or build around the current stadium, and Sox fans and casuals will come to the ballpark or watch on TV
Illinois is LOSING population. Philadelphia is a massive market too. They had two teams once. Same with San Francisco Bay area. US Demographics are moving south and west
@@HoshizakiYoshimasathat won’t last forever, it’s getting too hot and the salaries aren’t there
New York lost two teams in the same year. The White Sox may not get a decent offer this time, and they may move --either to another city or outside of Cook County but in Chicagoland.
I think what baseball needs is relocation. I think it would be nice to put a baseball team in Austin or Nashville..
Remember when Yankee Staduim had a 50k seating staduim
56 K in old Yankee Stadium !
@@stephanechamberland8486 52k in the new Stadium. Ever since Selig retired baseball has been in a rut. They don’t market the stars and kids don’t care like in the 90s early 00s
@@williamerazo3921 the capacity is now 46,537.
Just have the Yankees vs Dodgers play the ws in May and save us all the money and bullshit, baseball sucks now and is waaaaayyyy overpriced for a kids game, lost me years ago
Rogers center sucks