TV ratings. TV ratings are more important to these teams than stadium attendance. The Rays still rank among the top half of MLB TV ratings despite their attendance issues, this is why they won't leave the market.
They'll leave the market if an acceptable stadium solution can't be reached. MLB is losing its patience with the Rays. Either a new stadium needs to be built in TAMPA (not St. Pete), or the team needs to go elsewhere (is Orlando a possibility?).
@@GeraldM_inNCThis is why I don’t understand why many games, especially NFL ones you can only see on streaming anymore. I doubt most elderly people use the internet or streaming, but I could be wrong.
beginning to HATE ALL ML SPORTS........What are they building these stadiums out of? these stadiums need replacing every 30 years or so!! SCREW THESE BILLIONAIRE OWNERS
In the late 1960's the White Sox couldn't draw 16,000 fans for a weekend series. They would have been ecstatic to draw that many for a single game. Reinsdorf needs to spend his money on putting quality players on the field. With all the troubles with Guaranteed Rate Field, it's still a serviceable ballpark.
The biggest problem with the Marlins is public perception after their repeated fire sales. Their fan base may be fractured beyond repair. It's in MLB's best interest to stay in the Miami market...but will enough people care to show up to the games?
@@JamiesonPercadThat’s one thing I don’t get. The team has had more success in their first 10 years (2 World Series wins) than many other teams have had. Hell, I’m sure the five other teams wish they had at least one by now. Compared to them, the Marlins have had it pretty damn good for the most part in spite of their issues since.
I don't understand why the Marlins contract at LoanDepot Park is so long. It opened in 2012 and the lease is until 2057? That's a 45 year lease. That's insane. Most stadiums don't last anywhere near that long. Some stadiums only last 20 years. Why would anyone think a 45 year lease is reasonable? Why would the team or even the city want that? The city is going to have to spend so much money just to maintain it that long. Likely hundreds of millions of dollars. Why would the city want to spend even more money on it and why would the team even want to stay there that long? Can you imagine how dilapidated that stadium is going to be over 30 years from now? It's newish now but im way less than 30 years that stadium is going to need a huge and very expensive renovation if MLB teams are going to play there. The stadium has already been a terrible imvestment for the city and the lack of fan support has been terrible for the team. What the city should do is have the Marlins play there until it needs a renovation. Then instead of spending a bunch of money to renovate the stadium the city should just cut their losses and let the Marlins out of their contract. Then just demolish the stadium and either redevelop it or sell the land to a developer to recoup some of the money they wasted on it. Whenever the time for renovation comes that's what the city should do instead of wasting more tax payer funds on that money pit. It will be better for both the city and the team that way. Whenever signs start showing up that the stadium is eventually going to need an impending renovation the city should just allow the Marlins to start negotiating with other cities to get a new stadium somewhere else. That way by the time the city would have to actually spend money on the renovations they won't have to because the Marlins will already have a new stadium they can go to somehwere else and Miami can just save all that money or spend some of it on demolition and redevelopment into something else.
The Marlins won 2 World Series in their existence. There's just way too much else to do in Miami. The Heat do OK but they're up and down. The Phins frequently have more Jets and Bills fans than Phin fans at Hard Rock.
@@metsandjetsfan5174 No way the Panthers move. Atlanta has a shot at an NHL expansion team, and I think they'll likely be awarded one at some point as the NHL would need cities in the east for expansion, especially if Phoenix and SLC get expansion franchises in the west. I think the NHL would like to get to 36 teams.
Exactly That’s why I don’t get his point at 9:30. They’ve had more success in their first 10 years than many other teams in their 50+ years. I’m sure the Padres, Brewers, and Mariners wish they had one and they’re all around 50 years old!
Royals attendance should pick up soon. We've had thunderstorms and tornado watches/warnings 3-5 times a week for the past couple of months. Better weather should help
@@willp.8120 They can't end up in Nashville or Charlotte because MLB needs another team that will fit geographically into the AL West division. Vegas, Sacramento, or SLC make sense here (Portland does too).
Can you do a video on the 9/11 “scrubs”? It’s like as the towers were collapsing the floors below the collapsed had puffs of smoke and dust coming out the side a few floors beneath the collapse sequence.
Each time the Blue Jays play in both Detroit and Seattle they raise their ticket prices and attendance jumps in a big way. Maybe the Toronto region should and can support a second team. Won't happen but Montreal is begging for a team and proven it with large attendance during pre season games held there past few years. The provincial gov't there just approved a major investment into Olympic stadium giving it a big facelift which will be great till a new stadium is built closer to the city core. Tampa is the best bet to relocate there and play in the same league as Toronto.
Vancouver up in BC is a city full of $. A team would do well there if they could find a downtown spot to build a ballpark. Strange it never gets on the list of places that should get a team.
What will happen ? People will discuss it for 20 years like Oakland. The A’ s are in Oakland. Haven’t moved an inch. The Philly A’s avg single digit attendance figures for most of its 50 years. The Kansas City A’s as well. The 1979 Oakland team avg 3K a game. So while the A’s probably move , it ain’t guaranteed.
New renderings just released for Rays stadium, breaking news it will have operational glass panels/windows, when weather is good windows will be opened giving an outdoors effect
The 2024 White Sox will probably end up being the worst team in major league history. The only two teams that are comparable are the 1962 New York Mets, which averaged 11,532 per game, and the 2003 Detroit Tigers, which averaged 16,892, very close to the Sox current attendance through crappy cold April and May. As to the Mets, that was their first season, so there was a lot of interest in the games as they were a new thing. As to the Tigers, Comerica Park was relatively new, so there was also a novelty draw. The fact that White Sox are drawing nearly 17,000 a game to watch a garbage product in the cold and in a stadium that's not a tourist draw is a testament to White Sox fans' support of this team. In any MLB market, that's not New York, Boston, or St. Louis, it's half that, at best. And while we are on this topic, why is everybody so sure that Nashville is going to embrace an MLB team? Nashville is kind of like LA in that it's a glamor scene, and unlike the Dodgers, there's not nearly 70 years of fandom, World Series wins, and history built up. They'd probably be more like the Rays than White Sox in terms of attendance once the hype died down, especially under their current terrible ownership. I just think it would be stupid for the MLB to allow the White Sox to move. That is NOT to say they won't, but it would be stupid.
So what are the cities to relocate to? Montgomery, Charlotte, Knoxville, Louisville? Places like that where baseball is actually still popular would be my only guess. Unfortunately MLB would want like Austin, Portland and Albuquerque
The White Sox know they are cooked in Chicago. The city will choose to keep the Bears. MLB has a serious issue bc ticket prices are high. I am beginning to doubt that expansion will happen.
Hard to believe the White Sox are actively seeking public funding to help build a new stadium at a time when they're terrible/unwatchable on the field. When the NFL and MLB collide, the NFL usually wins.
No stadium will help TB... they are a winning team and can't draw.. That's not on the stadium... the rest are all related to the product on the field... but not TB.
The Rays problem is the traffic getting to the stadium, bottlenecking across bridges and causeways, making it difficult for people to get to a game, coupled with their depressing cavernous, closed roof stadium. If they were to build in downtown Tampa, or even on I-4 just east of Tampa, say near the Brandon or Plant City, you could easily pull from Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, and Ocala. With them being on the Peninsula, it makes it difficult for people elsewhere other than on the Peninsula, and a large percentage who live on the Peninsula are senior citizens who came from elsewhere in the country who do not go to games. St. Petersburg was not a good choice for the location in the region.
@@willp.8120 That SOUNDS good... but the reality is.. LA does not have problems and their traffic is a parking lot and they don't have that probelm.. .traffic bottlenecks are just someones excuse... if you know traffic issues exist..you leave early...the fact of the matter is.. people just don't care about the rays in that area... Hell, a playoff game with poor attendance.. traffic excuses only hold if the fans eventually get there... but NEVER getting there.. sorry.. that ship sinks.
@@ronpeacock9939 The difference between the Dodgers and the Rays is that the Greater LA area has over 17 million people while Tampa has only 3.5 million people. Furthermore, LA has more routes to get to the stadium. The Giants issue would be more comparable, but even then, the SF Bay area has double the population of Tampa Bay, so they have a greater population who can more likely generate more fans into getting to the stadium. The Lightning and Buccaneers have no problem attracting fans, and they are in Tampa. The team should be in either Hillsborough or Polk County, in my opinion.
@@willp.8120 Just the more reason to move.. Listen, if people don't try because of the traffic issues... they're not really fans... die-hard fan's won't give a hoot... and lets face it.. yeah, LA has more bodies.. but once you buy the ticket.. you're all in the same boat. Tampa/St. Pete fans just are not trying.. yeah, a little might be the travel.. but if it is.. then maybe the team needs to move.. moving the stadium to Tampa will still alienate a great deal of fans.. I've heard through family living there.. Tampa loves the Lightning, the Bucs.. but the Rays are not first choice in baseball...
Put the TB Rays in Austin, the Marlins in Montreal, White Sox will be better thru rebuilding, A's should go to Utah, just give new teams to Nashville & Las Vegas.
Agree it's a bad idea to built the new Rays park in St Pete. That said, I think it gets done. In any event, no way Rays are moving to Nashville. MLB wants Nashville to be the new expansion city in the East. If the St Pete project fails and Tampa doesn't want to help fund a new ballpark, Rays will in all likelihood move to Orlando as I think Manfred and MLB want to keep that team in Florida.
Nasville and Tennessee are pledged to no public money towards MLB. They were forced to make that pledge in order to get a very reluctant public to approve funding the Titans.
Public taxpayers money and revenue sharing from the richer teams, no wonder Yankee owner Hal Steinbrenner gets angry. The Marlins Home Loan Depot park has been empty except for the Jehovah's Witnesses international convention in 2019. For those three days from July 5 to 7, 2019, the place was packed. Derek Jeter was doing great for the community in reaching out. It's only when Jeter wanted to sign Nick Castellano that the owner got mad at him and bought him out.
@@fantasyEXX You can't copyright the name of a state. Plus, you have two teams named Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago. Those are political entities, but it doesn't stop them. Yeah, they are in different leagues, but so what. The New York Islanders and New York Rangers of the NHL have no issue with it
When the economy collapses, and it will within the next five years, teams are going to struggle. I mean, just look at inflation and people cutting back. Theme parks are having difficulty attracting guests. All entertainment is struggling. When the dollar crashes, all of these leagues in all sports will, at least temporarily, cease play. Some teams will likely never come back. In MLB, many teams, your "small market teams", plus Miami, will not return. I could easily seeing the league cut in half. The survivors? Most likely Atlanta Braves Boston Red Sox New York Yankees Chicago Cubs St. Louis Cardinals Los Angeles Dodgers Houston Astros San Diego Padres Philadelphia Phillies Probably would return: New York Mets Toronto Blue Jays Texas Rangers Arizona Diamondbacks Colorado Rockies Seattle Mariners Milwaukee Brewers San Francisco Giants Probably would not return: Washington Nationals Baltimore Orioles Cleveland Guardians Detroit Tigers Cincinnati Reds Minnesota Twins Los Angeles Angels Most likely would not return/would fold: Tampa Bay Rays Miami Marlins Kansas City Royals Athletics Chicago White Sox Pittsburgh Pirates
As a Cubs fan I would like to see the White Sox stay in Chicago. However the Cubs have a much bigger fanbase than the White Sox. The White Sox would benefit by relocating to another city such as Nashville or Salt Lake City.
@@michaelleroy9281 The Southeast is the most populated region of the country. It has over 150 million people, and yet excluding Florida and Texas, there is only one team, the Atlanta Braves. Yet, for some ridiculous reason, people are against adding more teams in the only region of the country that is still growing at a healthy rate. Instead, they'd rather chase smaller cities in the west who have less of a possibility for population growth and a success. Charlotte, Nashville, and Raleigh should get teams, as should Orlando and perhaps Austin. It isn't 1940. No other of the Big 5 are so anti-south than is MLB. It's absurd at this point.
Nashville is being saved for an expansion team in the East. Rays will either stay in St Pete, move to Tampa, or move to Orlando - I think Manfred wants to keep the team in Florida.
If you think that Jerry Reinsdorf is going to spend $1 billion of his own money to pay the relocation fee and that 24 teams are going to vote to allow the White Sox to move to an expansion city you must be smoking some good stuff. smh
TV ratings. TV ratings are more important to these teams than stadium attendance. The Rays still rank among the top half of MLB TV ratings despite their attendance issues, this is why they won't leave the market.
Seniors love watching sports on TV but rarely attend in person. When you hit your 60s you'll understand why.
They'll leave the market if an acceptable stadium solution can't be reached. MLB is losing its patience with the Rays. Either a new stadium needs to be built in TAMPA (not St. Pete), or the team needs to go elsewhere (is Orlando a possibility?).
I lived in the Tampa area for 6 months back in 2016 and what was strange was how much more popular the lightning were than the rays.
@@GeraldM_inNCThis is why I don’t understand why many games, especially NFL ones you can only see on streaming anymore.
I doubt most elderly people use the internet or streaming, but I could be wrong.
beginning to HATE ALL ML SPORTS........What are they building these stadiums out of? these stadiums need replacing every 30 years or so!! SCREW THESE BILLIONAIRE OWNERS
I’ve heard after a while, it becomes more costly to having to keep renovating as compared to just replacing it.
In the late 1960's the White Sox couldn't draw 16,000 fans for a weekend series. They would have been ecstatic to draw that many for a single game. Reinsdorf needs to spend his money on putting quality players on the field. With all the troubles with Guaranteed Rate Field, it's still a serviceable ballpark.
There's too much money in the growing Miami market for MLB to abandon it. The problem is those with money are transplants who don't go to games.
The biggest problem with the Marlins is public perception after their repeated fire sales. Their fan base may be fractured beyond repair. It's in MLB's best interest to stay in the Miami market...but will enough people care to show up to the games?
@@JamiesonPercadThat’s one thing I don’t get.
The team has had more success in their first 10 years (2 World Series wins) than many other teams have had. Hell, I’m sure the five other teams wish they had at least one by now.
Compared to them, the Marlins have had it pretty damn good for the most part in spite of their issues since.
I don't understand why the Marlins contract at LoanDepot Park is so long. It opened in 2012 and the lease is until 2057? That's a 45 year lease. That's insane. Most stadiums don't last anywhere near that long. Some stadiums only last 20 years. Why would anyone think a 45 year lease is reasonable? Why would the team or even the city want that? The city is going to have to spend so much money just to maintain it that long. Likely hundreds of millions of dollars. Why would the city want to spend even more money on it and why would the team even want to stay there that long? Can you imagine how dilapidated that stadium is going to be over 30 years from now? It's newish now but im way less than 30 years that stadium is going to need a huge and very expensive renovation if MLB teams are going to play there. The stadium has already been a terrible imvestment for the city and the lack of fan support has been terrible for the team. What the city should do is have the Marlins play there until it needs a renovation. Then instead of spending a bunch of money to renovate the stadium the city should just cut their losses and let the Marlins out of their contract. Then just demolish the stadium and either redevelop it or sell the land to a developer to recoup some of the money they wasted on it. Whenever the time for renovation comes that's what the city should do instead of wasting more tax payer funds on that money pit. It will be better for both the city and the team that way. Whenever signs start showing up that the stadium is eventually going to need an impending renovation the city should just allow the Marlins to start negotiating with other cities to get a new stadium somewhere else. That way by the time the city would have to actually spend money on the renovations they won't have to because the Marlins will already have a new stadium they can go to somehwere else and Miami can just save all that money or spend some of it on demolition and redevelopment into something else.
He has his dates wrong. The lease is for 35 years. It began in 2012 and it ends after the 2046 season. In 2047 the Marlins are free to relocate.
Maybe there was some lobbying going on? It's gross when sports become wealth extraction opportunities
The Marlins won 2 World Series in their existence. There's just way too much else to do in Miami. The Heat do OK but they're up and down. The Phins frequently have more Jets and Bills fans than Phin fans at Hard Rock.
@@metsandjetsfan5174 No way the Panthers move. Atlanta has a shot at an NHL expansion team, and I think they'll likely be awarded one at some point as the NHL would need cities in the east for expansion, especially if Phoenix and SLC get expansion franchises in the west. I think the NHL would like to get to 36 teams.
Exactly
That’s why I don’t get his point at 9:30.
They’ve had more success in their first 10 years than many other teams in their 50+ years.
I’m sure the Padres, Brewers, and Mariners wish they had one and they’re all around 50 years old!
Royals attendance should pick up soon.
We've had thunderstorms and tornado watches/warnings 3-5 times a week for the past couple of months. Better weather should help
Right now, with the way the economy is, it's a bad time for clubs to a$k for Taxpayer$ dollar$ for $tadiums....
And that reluctance is true of both Democrats and Republicans.
Money should be laundered to Ukraine!
@@GeraldM_inNCboth parties aZZ the dems I would say are a little more insane
the economy is fine ... make the rich pay
@@richardblais5232 I spent $172 yesterday to fill my fridge, and I'm a single man. What universe do you live in?
The branding is settled - “The Athletics” will play in Sacramento until “The Las Vegas Athletics” play the 2028 seasons in Las Vegas ….
BOTH NAMES SUCK.....SELL THE TEAM
They aren’t going to Vegas Fisher wants more tax money which wont happen
I think they either end up in Sacramento or Salt Lake City, maybe even Nashville or Charlotte.
@@willp.8120 They can't end up in Nashville or Charlotte because MLB needs another team that will fit geographically into the AL West division. Vegas, Sacramento, or SLC make sense here (Portland does too).
@@JamiesonPercad So the South continues to get left out, right? Time after time, DESPITE BEING THE MOST POPULATED REGION BY FAR.
Can you do a video on the 9/11 “scrubs”? It’s like as the towers were collapsing the floors below the collapsed had puffs of smoke and dust coming out the side a few floors beneath the collapse sequence.
Reasons the MLB has no reason to expand rn.
I wish you would show the crowd during Royal Rumble at Tropicana Field lol
Permanently relocate any of these to Sac and we will sell them out every game 💯
Each time the Blue Jays play in both Detroit and Seattle they raise their ticket prices and attendance jumps in a big way.
Maybe the Toronto region should and can support a second team.
Won't happen but Montreal is begging for a team and proven it with large attendance during pre season games held there past few years. The provincial gov't there just approved a major investment into Olympic stadium giving it a big facelift which will be great till a new stadium is built closer to the city core.
Tampa is the best bet to relocate there and play in the same league as Toronto.
Vancouver up in BC is a city full of $. A team would do well there if they could find a downtown spot to build a ballpark. Strange it never gets on the list of places that should get a team.
Those attendances are collapsing like the twin towers
What will happen ? People will discuss it for 20 years like Oakland. The A’ s are in Oakland. Haven’t moved an inch. The Philly A’s avg single digit attendance figures for most of its 50 years. The Kansas City A’s as well. The 1979 Oakland team avg 3K a game. So while the A’s probably move , it ain’t guaranteed.
When they were Florida marlins they won two world series.
New renderings just released for Rays stadium, breaking news it will have operational glass panels/windows, when weather is good windows will be opened giving an outdoors effect
The 2024 White Sox will probably end up being the worst team in major league history. The only two teams that are comparable are the 1962 New York Mets, which averaged 11,532 per game, and the 2003 Detroit Tigers, which averaged 16,892, very close to the Sox current attendance through crappy cold April and May.
As to the Mets, that was their first season, so there was a lot of interest in the games as they were a new thing. As to the Tigers, Comerica Park was relatively new, so there was also a novelty draw. The fact that White Sox are drawing nearly 17,000 a game to watch a garbage product in the cold and in a stadium that's not a tourist draw is a testament to White Sox fans' support of this team. In any MLB market, that's not New York, Boston, or St. Louis, it's half that, at best.
And while we are on this topic, why is everybody so sure that Nashville is going to embrace an MLB team? Nashville is kind of like LA in that it's a glamor scene, and unlike the Dodgers, there's not nearly 70 years of fandom, World Series wins, and history built up. They'd probably be more like the Rays than White Sox in terms of attendance once the hype died down, especially under their current terrible ownership.
I just think it would be stupid for the MLB to allow the White Sox to move. That is NOT to say they won't, but it would be stupid.
Fans in KC are upset at ownership for feeding them lies about the concrete cancer. Plus we love the K!
So what are the cities to relocate to? Montgomery, Charlotte, Knoxville, Louisville? Places like that where baseball is actually still popular would be my only guess. Unfortunately MLB would want like Austin, Portland and Albuquerque
The White Sox know they are cooked in Chicago. The city will choose to keep the Bears. MLB has a serious issue bc ticket prices are high. I am beginning to doubt that expansion will happen.
Hard to believe the White Sox are actively seeking public funding to help build a new stadium at a time when they're terrible/unwatchable on the field. When the NFL and MLB collide, the NFL usually wins.
No stadium will help TB... they are a winning team and can't draw.. That's not on the stadium... the rest are all related to the product on the field... but not TB.
Right, the only thing that will help the Rays is to move out of Florida period.
The Rays problem is the traffic getting to the stadium, bottlenecking across bridges and causeways, making it difficult for people to get to a game, coupled with their depressing cavernous, closed roof stadium. If they were to build in downtown Tampa, or even on I-4 just east of Tampa, say near the Brandon or Plant City, you could easily pull from Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, and Ocala. With them being on the Peninsula, it makes it difficult for people elsewhere other than on the Peninsula, and a large percentage who live on the Peninsula are senior citizens who came from elsewhere in the country who do not go to games. St. Petersburg was not a good choice for the location in the region.
@@willp.8120 That SOUNDS good... but the reality is.. LA does not have problems and their traffic is a parking lot and they don't have that probelm.. .traffic bottlenecks are just someones excuse... if you know traffic issues exist..you leave early...the fact of the matter is.. people just don't care about the rays in that area... Hell, a playoff game with poor attendance.. traffic excuses only hold if the fans eventually get there... but NEVER getting there.. sorry.. that ship sinks.
@@ronpeacock9939 The difference between the Dodgers and the Rays is that the Greater LA area has over 17 million people while Tampa has only 3.5 million people. Furthermore, LA has more routes to get to the stadium. The Giants issue would be more comparable, but even then, the SF Bay area has double the population of Tampa Bay, so they have a greater population who can more likely generate more fans into getting to the stadium.
The Lightning and Buccaneers have no problem attracting fans, and they are in Tampa. The team should be in either Hillsborough or Polk County, in my opinion.
@@willp.8120 Just the more reason to move.. Listen, if people don't try because of the traffic issues... they're not really fans... die-hard fan's won't give a hoot... and lets face it.. yeah, LA has more bodies.. but once you buy the ticket.. you're all in the same boat. Tampa/St. Pete fans just are not trying.. yeah, a little might be the travel.. but if it is.. then maybe the team needs to move.. moving the stadium to Tampa will still alienate a great deal of fans.. I've heard through family living there.. Tampa loves the Lightning, the Bucs.. but the Rays are not first choice in baseball...
Tampa Bay to Nashville! Make it happen.
Oh wait. Manfred is still the commish
In 2022 The White Sox drew 2, 009 , 359 for the season who said they have poor attendance ALL the time
As usual here goes the Depressed Goofball with the "they'll relocate" speculations for content...
why you never did what if there a tsunami during 9/11
Miami is pretty freaking bad considering the stadium.
You can put the rays wherever you want and we still won't show up. 😂😂😂
WANDER FRANCO FORMER TEAM MENTIONED?!?!
Put the TB Rays in Austin, the Marlins in Montreal, White Sox will be better thru rebuilding, A's should go to Utah, just give new teams to Nashville & Las Vegas.
Agree it's a bad idea to built the new Rays park in St Pete. That said, I think it gets done. In any event, no way Rays are moving to Nashville. MLB wants Nashville to be the new expansion city in the East. If the St Pete project fails and Tampa doesn't want to help fund a new ballpark, Rays will in all likelihood move to Orlando as I think Manfred and MLB want to keep that team in Florida.
Nasville and Tennessee are pledged to no public money towards MLB. They were forced to make that pledge in order to get a very reluctant public to approve funding the Titans.
Rays -> Orlando or Nashville at this point (although Montreal is the city that should get the team).
Public taxpayers money and revenue sharing from the richer teams, no wonder Yankee owner Hal Steinbrenner gets angry.
The Marlins Home Loan Depot park has been empty except for the Jehovah's Witnesses international convention in 2019. For those three days from July 5 to 7, 2019, the place was packed. Derek Jeter was doing great for the community in reaching out. It's only when Jeter wanted to sign Nick Castellano that the owner got mad at him and bought him out.
White Sox averaging 16,000/game?
Yeah, right.
I see them calling them the California A's (Athletics).
@@fantasyEXX You can't copyright the name of a state. Plus, you have two teams named Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago. Those are political entities, but it doesn't stop them. Yeah, they are in different leagues, but so what. The New York Islanders and New York Rangers of the NHL have no issue with it
People will call them the Sacramento A's/Athletics whether or not the team is "officially" referred to by that name.
When the economy collapses, and it will within the next five years, teams are going to struggle. I mean, just look at inflation and people cutting back. Theme parks are having difficulty attracting guests. All entertainment is struggling. When the dollar crashes, all of these leagues in all sports will, at least temporarily, cease play. Some teams will likely never come back. In MLB, many teams, your "small market teams", plus Miami, will not return. I could easily seeing the league cut in half.
The survivors? Most likely
Atlanta Braves
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals
Los Angeles Dodgers
Houston Astros
San Diego Padres
Philadelphia Phillies
Probably would return:
New York Mets
Toronto Blue Jays
Texas Rangers
Arizona Diamondbacks
Colorado Rockies
Seattle Mariners
Milwaukee Brewers
San Francisco Giants
Probably would not return:
Washington Nationals
Baltimore Orioles
Cleveland Guardians
Detroit Tigers
Cincinnati Reds
Minnesota Twins
Los Angeles Angels
Most likely would not return/would fold:
Tampa Bay Rays
Miami Marlins
Kansas City Royals
Athletics
Chicago White Sox
Pittsburgh Pirates
Retract those teams.
There is no such thing as contraction in 2024 that was tried in 2002 with Montreal and Minnesota a judge prevented that from happening
Wild the royals aren’t drawing well, guess they’re just a football town 🤷♂️
Right there team is whooping *** right now
i think the rays and marlins would draw better if it was in a different location. Rays should be playing in tampa and not st pete
Tampa/Hillsborough County refuse to fund a stadium. Any politician who agreed to meet Sternberg's demands would be voted out.
I think the Athletics should just be called "The Athletics", without any city or geographic description for now.
Why? Why not call them the Sacramento Athletics? Hard to take them seriously if they do as you suggest.
@@JamiesonPercad It's only a temporary home. It's no use to pretend they are anything else.
@@stevennelson9504 3 years (possibly 4) in Sacramento is long enough to think otherwise.
@@JamiesonPercad I disagree.
As a Cubs fan I would like to see the White Sox stay in Chicago. However the Cubs have a much bigger fanbase than the White Sox. The White Sox would benefit by relocating to another city such as Nashville or Salt Lake City.
the white sox should relocate. no new york team plays in manhatten, what about new york attas
White Sox are a historic team. I don’t see them leaving Chicago.
The White Sox should just move to Nashville
Forget Nashville It might be Salt Lake City and only if 24 out of 30 owners approve it
@@michaelleroy9281 The Southeast is the most populated region of the country. It has over 150 million people, and yet excluding Florida and Texas, there is only one team, the Atlanta Braves. Yet, for some ridiculous reason, people are against adding more teams in the only region of the country that is still growing at a healthy rate. Instead, they'd rather chase smaller cities in the west who have less of a possibility for population growth and a success.
Charlotte, Nashville, and Raleigh should get teams, as should Orlando and perhaps Austin. It isn't 1940. No other of the Big 5 are so anti-south than is MLB. It's absurd at this point.
The White Sox are going nowhere as far as from Chicago.....
Nashville is being saved for an expansion team in the East. Rays will either stay in St Pete, move to Tampa, or move to Orlando - I think Manfred wants to keep the team in Florida.
If you think that Jerry Reinsdorf is going to spend $1 billion of his own money to pay the relocation fee and that 24 teams are going to vote to allow the White Sox to move to an expansion city you must be smoking some good stuff. smh
Nobody cares !!!!!!