LORE DISCUSSION: Angron VS Ghazghkull Thraka - World Eaters vs Orks - Warhammer 40,000 Lore Overview

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Who would emerge victorious if these two mighty contenders were to clash? In this video we will explore the possible outcomes for this potential super fight.
    ✅CHAPTERS✅
    00:00 INTRO
    01:23 THE RED ANGEL
    05:31 EIGHT WEEKS, EIGHT DAYS, EIGHT HOURS
    07:43 GHAZGHKULL MAG URUK THRAKA
    12:13 THE LEGIONS BEHIND ANGRON
    15:22 THERE IS ONLY WAAAGH!
    21:45 DESTRUCTION ACROSS THE GALAXY
    33:12 ON A PATH TO COLLISION
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  • @TheBookofChoyer
    @TheBookofChoyer  7 месяцев назад +72

    What a pleasure it has been to make this video! and what a sprint it has been to get it out before the end of the year. Hopefully you’ll get to enjoy this episode it during your well-deserved holidays. Special thanks to the Great Skrubasauras for delivering yet another wonderful narration for this one!
    Speaking about the fight between the Red Angel and the Prophet of the Waaagh! This is a tough one, the two of them are true monsters of destruction, but in my view, Angron might edge out a victory in a one-on-one fight. However, when it comes to an all-out war with their full armies, the scales could tip in favor of Ghazghkull and the greenskin horde. Again, this is my own personal opinion and I could be completely wrong, but it is still fun to speculate on these matters.
    Another factor is that now that it has been stablished that Angron can return to realspace even when he is banished to the warp after just eight weeks, eight days and eight hours, I would say that he is more “killable” now. It’s easier for writers to kill Angron as he would then be returned, with no real consequences, doing away with the risk of eliminating a major character from the setting of Warhammer 40K. Of course this is looking at it from a perspective outside of the universe but I think it still counts. Personally, I would love to see Angron killing off a main character for once, destroying an important world or so…
    In any case, what do you think? Who would emerge victorious on this clash and why? Would love to see your comments, theories and such.
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  • @markmikolay9019
    @markmikolay9019 7 месяцев назад +585

    Imagine Ghazzy being on the backfoot against Angron, when suddenly... It's Tuska Demonkilla with a steel chair!!!!

    • @TenPtJackalope
      @TenPtJackalope 7 месяцев назад +62

      BAH GAWD ALMIGHTY, HE’S BROKEN IN HALF!

    • @boyanpenev9822
      @boyanpenev9822 7 месяцев назад +39

      Makes you wonder if Khorne's flex to break the replacement astronomicon ends up having... unexpected consequences. Imagine how much Tuska has been grinding.

    • @massivemike7358
      @massivemike7358 6 месяцев назад +2

      HELLYEAH❗️

    • @bikesnblades6737
      @bikesnblades6737 6 месяцев назад +18

      Tuska... BRING THE TABLES!

    • @lavatun
      @lavatun 6 месяцев назад +20

      ​@@TenPtJackalope by da gork an' mork!.. 'ez droppin' down on dis red git outta nowherz!..

  • @jtfbreedlove
    @jtfbreedlove 6 месяцев назад +251

    Weirdly enough Ghaz's main advantage in a 1v1 with Angron is he is possibly the saner of the two at this point.

    • @ev6781
      @ev6781 5 месяцев назад +22

      Gods your right but it weird that you are right

    • @wadeall8998
      @wadeall8998 4 месяца назад +4

      Wow ya huh

    • @roy-johnlarkin3049
      @roy-johnlarkin3049 Месяц назад +3

      Who would've known that to be crazier than ghaz you need to enjoy standing on the front of spaceships yelling at things

    • @AlphaQHard
      @AlphaQHard Месяц назад

      How is sanity an advantage in a fight to the death?

    • @eggdog6185
      @eggdog6185 Месяц назад

      ​@AlphaQHard, it allows you to fight better

  • @ImperialKnight770
    @ImperialKnight770 7 месяцев назад +371

    If Angron did indeed kill Yarrick, he better be ready for the fight of his life.

    • @Laughing_God
      @Laughing_God 7 месяцев назад +23

      I am gonna be real for more then 2 seconds here, if he did that. I will straight up revive Yarrick, the only thing I can see that takes him out is turning to dust from age.

    • @ElectricalExistence
      @ElectricalExistence 7 месяцев назад +9

      Yarrick lives.

    • @ImperialKnight770
      @ImperialKnight770 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@ElectricalExistence *STOMP! STOMP!*

    • @RobouteGuilliman-M41
      @RobouteGuilliman-M41 7 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. The super being that became an even more super being that will come back to life, if destroyed. The man that was utterly destroyed in Arcs of Omen by an energy beam, and immediately reformed. That's before he destroyed a planet. Orks like war? Good. Let's see what happens when they get infected with the Murder Curse. Let's see what Ghazghkull does when his WAAAGH! goes into a berserker rage like never before, and turns not only on each other, but on him. Oh, and they'd be getting really powerful, in the process.

    • @ImperialKnight770
      @ImperialKnight770 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@RobouteGuilliman-M41 so from what you said, the only thing that could give him a final death is The Emperors sword which is in the current possession of one Robute Guilliman.

  • @00tree
    @00tree 6 месяцев назад +151

    "It's Tuska Demon Killa... and he's got a chair... he's got a CHAIR... HE'S GOT A CHAIR!!!"

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 Месяц назад +4

      'e Came 'n Off Da Top Rope, 'e Didz.

    • @j.t8529
      @j.t8529 22 дня назад +1

      BY GORK AZ MAH WITNEZZ DAT GIT IS BROKEN IN HAFF!!

  • @climax050
    @climax050 6 месяцев назад +161

    If Ghaz punches on with Angron solely because he killed Yarrick that will be both one of the funniest and the most wholesome moment in all of 40k and I'm ready for that in my heart.
    Also no one can really lose, Angron can just respawn and Gaz can just be given the body of a kroak to make him even bigger and badder than he was before

    • @NeoIsrafil
      @NeoIsrafil 6 месяцев назад +1

      Ohhh yah I am so here for it!

    • @Robosium
      @Robosium 5 месяцев назад +15

      ghaz would probably be smart enough to realise after like the 3rd angron kill that he has to figure out how that red bastard keeps coming back and then proceed to summon gork and mork to take Khorne down

    • @kazzackthuul
      @kazzackthuul 4 месяца назад +3

      You remember how malakith got grimgore iron hide to fight the ever chosen? "Hey grimgore, this guy says he is better than you" "dis gits gonna die when I kill em"

    • @j.t8529
      @j.t8529 22 дня назад

      As strong as Ghaz is he's not gonna be able to take down a Demon Primarch but he is smarter than Angron and most of the world eaters as to Divert Angron to kill area then deliver the finishing blow. Remember he is Brutal and Cunning

    • @bolverkvolsung6142
      @bolverkvolsung6142 11 дней назад

      It would be perfect for both. But yeah the Waaagh and Khornic power would peak and start a God battle.

  • @Terminator-Plays101
    @Terminator-Plays101 7 месяцев назад +111

    Big red angry boy vs big green angry ork boy

    • @icemanking9473
      @icemanking9473 7 месяцев назад +9

      The battle of Christmas colors

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 7 месяцев назад +3

      Big red angry demon boy*

    • @fluffymyato3334
      @fluffymyato3334 7 месяцев назад +2

      God i love how everyone is gearing up to steal abandon's thunder

    • @exiledhero3791
      @exiledhero3791 4 месяца назад +1

      It’s hulk vs red hulk again?

  • @davidjb20010
    @davidjb20010 7 месяцев назад +303

    I think killing Angron would level up Ghaz so damn hard. It would be interesting that the primarchs are coming back just in time for war of the beast 2.0 ghaz murks your family edition.

    • @Bumbaclart247
      @Bumbaclart247 7 месяцев назад +30

      He might even become a Krork

    • @ac_pejk3113
      @ac_pejk3113 7 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@Bumbaclart247that would be super sick

    • @abbadullreee3298
      @abbadullreee3298 7 месяцев назад +12

      War of this beast2: Krok of the millennium

    • @viziel519
      @viziel519 7 месяцев назад +5

      I mean how much exp can something give when he just respawns in 8 weeks, 8 days, and 8 hours, like Angron can?

    • @ac_pejk3113
      @ac_pejk3113 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@viziel519 ghaz could spawn camp eh? 🤣

  • @scooterdescooter4018
    @scooterdescooter4018 7 месяцев назад +38

    "What the hell is a Ghazghkull?"
    "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH!"
    "oh. ...oh."

  • @13gi0n
    @13gi0n 7 месяцев назад +50

    10:46 “His unique ability to ORK-estrate Waaghs…” I see what you did there ❤

  • @Robosium
    @Robosium 5 месяцев назад +12

    I kinda hope that someone would tell the orks about the concept of saints in the imperium so they'll will Yarrick back to life as the saint of propa good foights

  • @frodoproudfeet3386
    @frodoproudfeet3386 7 месяцев назад +29

    the orcs would go to war against Angron over Yarrick because orcs have not only a sense of respect for their enemies who have given them a good proper fight at least once but also a sense of honor. For example, in one famous case a space marine from the Space Wolves chapter along with some of his brothers in arms managed to defend a narrow passage against the orcs long enough to cover the retreat of the rest of Space Wolve company, afterward the Space Wolves came back to proper buried their fallen brothers only to shockingly discover the orcs have placed the fallen space marines in a hastily constructed shrine with their armor still on. thus logically it won't make sense, for the orcs to not let Yarrick die without giving him respect and honor and since Agron supposedly killed him, it would make sense for the orcs to honor and respect Yarrick one last time by making the biggest waagh in his honor against Angron.

  • @sonicsucks20
    @sonicsucks20 7 месяцев назад +39

    It depends who will get the bigger plot armor, of gw shows i think angron gonna take a fall since hes been hitting the worf effect.

  • @Nempo13
    @Nempo13 5 месяцев назад +9

    Main thing to remember about daemons fighting orkz, daemons lose some of their warp given might when around green skins. So Angron would lose a decent chunk of his power while Ghaz would gain power. ESPECIALLY as a WAAAGH! would be involved.

    • @wyattmaniscalco3090
      @wyattmaniscalco3090 23 дня назад +3

      Ooh this could potentially be a way to permanently kill Angron too

  • @fl00fydragon
    @fl00fydragon 5 месяцев назад +60

    Ghahzgull: "Youz killed old bale eye, youz shouldla not done dat. Waaaaagh"
    Angron, stabbing Ghazghull: "I don't remember the names of the ants I crush!"
    Ghazhghull smiles, getting bigger, bigger, massive and grabs the blade as Angron struggles and fails to pull it back out. Turning to the infrerior creature before him Ghazghull, in perfect high gothic says. "If so, then I shall return the favor, good bye puny winged ant."
    Ghazkhull, the first krork in millions of years, grabs the head of Angron, crushing his skull with overwhelming physical and wagh psychic might. For a moment, for that single spit second the attention of Gork amd Mork averted from each other, for that moment they agreed, for that moment they had one goal: to kill Angron, to crush the puny ant before their ascended prophet. In that moment it was more than just Ghazghull's hand crushing Angron. In that moment Angron finally found peace.
    As the battle ended, Ghazghull made an effigy of Yarrick, his best enemy, his rival to whom he owed the drive to be better and without another word he left, to fight the greatest waaaagh. The galaxy, his galaxy, had a bug infestation to take care of.

    • @olknoxlo
      @olknoxlo 4 месяца назад +6

      Thank the dark gods you don't write for the Black Library.

    • @bigsneak4601
      @bigsneak4601 3 месяца назад

      Beautiful, I hope Ghaz crushes that red prick

    • @Br0ck3n
      @Br0ck3n 2 месяца назад +2

      Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka - Da Biggest Ork, or the first known living Krork in millennia.

    • @olknoxlo
      @olknoxlo 2 месяца назад

      @@Br0ck3n What about him?

    • @robthesnakeguy4618
      @robthesnakeguy4618 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Br0ck3nWhat bout dat frozen one da metal hoardin git 'as?

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 7 месяцев назад +144

    Best way to beat Angron is to tell Ghazghkull that the Daemon Primarch of Khorne was the reason behind Yarrick's demise and the Ork Warboss will go John Wick on him.

    • @whitefam420
      @whitefam420 7 месяцев назад +5

      Ghaz still gets destroyed here. Picturing him as Jon wick is hilarious though 😂

    • @scooterdescooter4018
      @scooterdescooter4018 7 месяцев назад +11

      Gaz in a well tailored suit...stretched over his armor.

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@scooterdescooter4018 Na he is always in a suit it's just what orks consider a suit which is high end armor

    • @TheKriegsmen
      @TheKriegsmen 5 месяцев назад

      What if know hear me out, what if Yarrick is playing dead so that the World Eaters and Orks weaken themselves so much from fighting each other that he can emerge and lead the imperial forces to claim victory over Armageddon?

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 5 месяцев назад

      @@TheKriegsmen well a certain ork warlord would be very happy I'm sure

  • @redfireeverstar2651
    @redfireeverstar2651 6 месяцев назад +21

    The 4th War of Armageddon is coming. The line in the sand was drawn if the death of Yarrick is true.

  • @lavatun
    @lavatun 6 месяцев назад +17

    Honest question:
    Wouldn't the rage sickness angron radiates be a liability against him if he were to face ghazghkull?..

    • @Br0ck3n
      @Br0ck3n 2 месяца назад +7

      Given how WAAAAAAGHS work...
      YES, YES IT WOULD

  • @kevendillingham2442
    @kevendillingham2442 7 месяцев назад +41

    God this Channel has amazing narrative skills and the editing in the background with the pictures always changing as the narration continues truly a superb job well done

  • @qigonglungz
    @qigonglungz 7 месяцев назад +13

    "ORChestrate massive Waaaghs" great wordplay there!!! Love the video...!!! And since most WH40K Pics are over-used, its brilliant to use shots of well painted mini-s to present the lore!

  • @Jon_REDACTED
    @Jon_REDACTED 7 месяцев назад +25

    A battle between the Fallen red angel and the Ghazghkull would be a battle of epic proportions and magnitude that it would reshape the 40k setting entirely.
    I hope that they make it to where Commissar Yarrick died by Angron blade that the legendary warboss would go on a Crusade of his own to hunt down and kill the Fallen and possibly destroy him for good as the physic might of the Orks rage may surly be enough to destroy his very being, unable to be brought back to fight for the dark god.
    Merry Christmas 🎄

  • @tomyorke3412
    @tomyorke3412 7 месяцев назад +12

    WAAAAAAAAGH!!!! FOR OLD BALE EYE! The Guard and Orks team up to give that red git a good krumping

  • @gr8m887
    @gr8m887 7 месяцев назад +6

    Moral of the story: you never steal another man’s kill.

  • @drybrawler
    @drybrawler 7 месяцев назад +19

    Honestly, a fight between the two of them would never be permitted to end. Khorne would resurrect both forces after one side falls to have them go at it again, and the only way he’d permit one to stay dead is if one of the sides won too consistently

    • @taloscal
      @taloscal 7 месяцев назад +6

      Just imagining Khorne watching it from his throne with popcorn now.
      seeing how impressed/amused he was by Tuska Demonkilla he'd probably see Ghazkull/Angron as the sequel to his favourite movie and play it on repeat like he does on Tuska.

    • @citrusorange794
      @citrusorange794 6 месяцев назад +2

      Gork and Mork would be proud two you could say Khorn is a respectful rival to them.

    • @dogedoge5532
      @dogedoge5532 6 месяцев назад

      And also Orks grows Bigger the longer the battles are, Just like Octarius War

  • @GundamChief
    @GundamChief 3 месяца назад +1

    "An apocalyptic Waaaugh of Vengeance may be heading to the Deamon Primarch"
    Brings a savage smile to my face.

  • @sebastianhovenas272
    @sebastianhovenas272 7 месяцев назад +54

    It is important to note that Ghazghkull most certainly meant to die at Ragnars hands in "Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH". Ghazghkull definitely went easy on Ragnar, and allowed him the "victory". He says so himself.
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 11 - page 199 and 200 right after ragnar choped off Ghazghkulls head.
    "So this is death is it? I've had worse. I need not die. Not if i do not will it. My enemies did not die when i took their heads. Nor when i took them again. Not because they were tough. Because you did not will it. Because i did not will it. Now, i wish for death. If i did not i would not bear this wound. But what comes next; this thing that you have shown me... it is vast. It is great and violant and sacred. I will have it for myself. You showed me where to carve the path, and here, in this place, is where it narrows. This thin curtain, this death, is all that stands in my way.
    How frail it is. I will tear it down. I will breach its gates, as i have breached every gate before me. I will tear down its walls, as i have torn down all walls. But conquest has made my body strong. Too strong now, i see. The blood clings to my veins, and it will not cool fast enough. It defies me. So i snarl, and my anger finds voice where i should have none. If my blood will not cool, then it will burn, and i will go to you in flames.
    Page 200
    I am moved, now. My head, held up by the hand of my enemy. It regards me, as it lifts my remains, and i regard it in turn. There is triumph in its face. This thing thinks it knows victory, in defeating me! It thinks it knows power. But for all the plate it wears, for all that had been done to make it into a thing of war, it is vermin. I study the bones beneath its skin. I see how its body is gnarled and swollen. How its whole self has been made, in the hope that it might hold out to the stars in the name of a dead god. It is a vain hope. Those stars will burn green, in the end.
    The vermin is dying, i see, even with such mild wounds. It is like a joke, i think, as it bares its feeble tusks. Like a poor copy of an ork, twisted together from the parts of a weaker beast. But you made us right the first time. Not even the primarchs, the peak of their dead god's work, could be as perfect as the lowest part of the great green. The anger swells, now, as the vermin holds my head up in the broken temple. And i think. That i had to die today... annoys me. But why could it not have been a primarch? That fight, i would have relished. I crave that fight. But i cannot have it, and it makes the embers of my anger glow white with rage".
    Plus there is this too...
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 10 - page 188
    Makari's point of view of Ghazghkulls fight with Ragnar
    "Beset from all sides, your Prophet detonated a great store of munitions hidden in the walls, so as to cut both himself and his opponent off from the support of their warriors. He knows he must fight this combat alone. Because he has had a vision. You were there. It was his greatest vision yet, and his most violent, seizing his body as if the gods themselves had him in their jaws. He came round from it knowing that this fight was destined; that it was the narrowing he had to pass through, in order to bring about the flourishing of your Great Green.
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 10 - page 189
    Makari's point of view of Ghazghkulls fight with Ragnar.
    "The prophet curls his lips back from fangs as long as your arms, and in a voice as thick and black as the spilled hydraulic fluid at his feet, he taunts Blackmane in the tounge of men. 'Finish this.' It is a command for an ending' but the ork who speaks for the gods sounds more as if he is impatient for something to begin.
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 10 - page 191
    Makari's point of view after Ghazghkulls death.
    "Your vision is fading fast. But before it goes entierly, you see one last vision as you gaze involuntarily up the steps of the dias. Ragnar is standing shakily on the ruin of the prophet, with a ghastly rent in his chest. He is swaying, barely keeping his feet beneath him. In one hand, he holds aloft the head of Ghazghkull Thraka. And before the green rises up from the black to take you, you see that your master's tusks are set in a great, triumphant grin, and you know that all will be well.
    So Ragnar didn't really beat Ghazghkull, since Ghaz allowed him the victory, in order to achieve is ultimate goal! Why did he have to die? And why did he have to die to Ragnar? Only Gork and Mork know.

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  7 месяцев назад +20

      Nice contribution 👌 it's all about those little details that make these scenarios more interesting.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 7 месяцев назад +6

      Wow, since when did Ghazhgull become such a poet? 😆

    • @sebastianhovenas272
      @sebastianhovenas272 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@UGNAvalon i know! Really rolls off the tounge eh?

    • @whitefam420
      @whitefam420 7 месяцев назад

      @@TheBookofChoyer except the author stated that Ghaz didn't lose intentionally. He did an interview and was asked about it.

    • @sebastianhovenas272
      @sebastianhovenas272 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@whitefam420which author? David Annandale or Nate Crowley?

  • @SonOfHashut
    @SonOfHashut 7 месяцев назад +19

    Love the 40k content as well as the fantasy. Merry Christmas you guys!

  • @drybrawler
    @drybrawler 7 месяцев назад +5

    8 weeks, 8 day, and 8 hours… so 9 weeks, a day, and a third, got it!
    Also, are these Terra’s time or the time of the last planet he was on? What if the planet’s days lasted years?

  • @Ninjahbutter
    @Ninjahbutter 15 дней назад

    This was a great video. I liked how they go over the characters histories as reference to decide.

  • @Valonez
    @Valonez 7 месяцев назад +5

    One of the best Christmas presets, thanks for the awesome video!

  • @Ragas12
    @Ragas12 7 месяцев назад +5

    I just realized this video is perfect to have released on Christmas. After all, the major colors of the two sides are green and red.

  • @markpaloma3914
    @markpaloma3914 7 месяцев назад +4

    amazing video thanks for the highlights and summaries.

  • @hasthur5
    @hasthur5 7 месяцев назад +2

    “Angrons unmatched martial prowess.” I think the lions shield begs to differ.

  • @dang1099
    @dang1099 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good video! The part of Angron facing a title gave me chills!

  • @phoenixgear_fried85
    @phoenixgear_fried85 7 месяцев назад +4

    the fight that ever body wants

  • @brandonl7759
    @brandonl7759 7 месяцев назад +3

    Dude i love this, can we get a full on VS series? Id love to see like Abaddon VS Guilliman or something

  • @ashbaharin5276
    @ashbaharin5276 Месяц назад +1

    Holy cow. Never thought little old me would have his art in one Choyer's videos! EEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @ya_boi_swigg8431
    @ya_boi_swigg8431 5 месяцев назад +3

    Ghaz finds out Angron killed Yarrick: “Swiggity Swooty I’m coming for that angry booty!”

  • @jacktripper3728
    @jacktripper3728 6 месяцев назад +3

    If Angron's aura of Berserking causes any creature to go into a full blown blood rage. The thought of any Ork, or any qarboss, little alone Ghazghskull Thrakka... they would be a battle that would last either for a long time or the quickest fight in 40k history considering that Ghazghskull would use that fury and rage to just focus on Angron

  • @j.t8529
    @j.t8529 6 месяцев назад +5

    It's kinda jarring to know that Ghaz is actually the smarter of the two and would definetly bait Angron on a kill area because for one no one in his legion actually wants to save Angron and two everyone who gets in his way ally alike would get chopped down and three once he is in a state of carnage all logic and reasoning gets out

  • @therealcutman
    @therealcutman 7 месяцев назад +1

    I really enjoy this channel ! Well told fam👐🏾

  • @mr.m.t.j.m6003
    @mr.m.t.j.m6003 6 месяцев назад +4

    I mean don’t forget a fungus can literally survive nuclear blast, and hell fire is declared as a similar version to that combustion of a demon core from a nuclear bomb. So yes, they get immortality in different ways.

  • @morbidone88
    @morbidone88 7 месяцев назад +5

    Oh hell yes.. merry xmas to me! Ive been waiting for a video like this to drop and, ofc, its my man Choyer! 💪

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 7 месяцев назад +1

      BTW, ANGRON FTW!

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  7 месяцев назад +1

      Happy holidays Brother! 😃🙌 Thanks a lot for watching!!

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheBookofChoyer always!

  • @shimazutakuma1031
    @shimazutakuma1031 6 месяцев назад +4

    When yarrick becomes "York" the third "ork god" XD

  • @UllyrWuldan
    @UllyrWuldan 6 месяцев назад +4

    I’d love to see a video on the Inquisition vs Black Templars that Helbrecht hinted at over the Celestial Lions massacre.

  • @DylanGosseye
    @DylanGosseye 7 месяцев назад +5

    In a fight like that, not only the world eaters would join, but also Khorne's daemonic legions

  • @Lycurgus1982
    @Lycurgus1982 7 месяцев назад +8

    All the best to Ghazghkull in confronting a daemonic primarch of Karneth.

  • @gfhjkfghj4208
    @gfhjkfghj4208 7 месяцев назад +23

    Angron's immortality is a big liability to him since GW can have him lose and come back over and over. They kind of did that with Ghazghkull (Blackmane), but if Angron won he'd violate the body so that there was nothing left to stitch back together and Orkfans would be butthurt. So even if there should be no mortal being in the setting capable of successfully going 1vs1 in melee against Angron, I'd probably also guess that GW would give Ghazghkull the win because of plot armour.

    • @christophertidwell2422
      @christophertidwell2422 6 месяцев назад +2

      In lore angron would lose to boat man since he is named,blue,and doesn't wear a helmet that means that he has three pieces of immortality

    • @lavatun
      @lavatun 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@christophertidwell2422 I can see that happening if he had the lion's help..

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 6 месяцев назад +3

      A Gaz vs Angron fight would likely be during a 4th War of Armageddon, and part of ne would almost expect Gaz to get a new even bigger model out of it(especially if he's winning thus fight and looting some bits of Angron).
      Gaz would also be bringing the greatest WAAAAAAAGH since the War of The Beast with him, likes with new units for GW to sell us to boot.
      Ghazghkull is probably the best fit of all "mere" moral opponents that could be sent against a Deamon Primarch, he is the prophet of Gork and Mork after all...

  • @nocturnaljoe9543
    @nocturnaljoe9543 7 месяцев назад +5

    How much is 4 barrelz, boss?

  • @AdrianMartinez-ho6db
    @AdrianMartinez-ho6db 7 месяцев назад +6

    This is a fight that NEEDS TO HAPPEN. The plan tho would hinge on Angron and his forces surviving long enough to kill Ghazghkull and let the remaining orks fight over succession, allowing the world eaters and other forces of Khorne to mop up.

    • @ianduarte1992
      @ianduarte1992 Месяц назад

      If angron can stop eating crayons for long enough to think that could happen.

  • @regulusm1518
    @regulusm1518 6 месяцев назад

    Great stuff

  • @Robert_Douglass
    @Robert_Douglass 6 месяцев назад +4

    There's an old World Wrestling Federation term used by JR "Jim" Ross when a particularly chaotic and riveting match takes place, usually a free-for-all, but it can happen between two individuals as well.
    It's called a
    Slobberknocker
    That's what this is gonna be when Ghazghkull gets his power claw on that reddy wingy git Angron.
    Ya hear that,Angron?! Ya frakked up when ya krumped Ol' Bale Eye. He was Ghaz's bestust ennumy an ya snikkt him like sum Morker. Ghaz's gonna giv it to ya but good!!

  • @emperorkiron3470
    @emperorkiron3470 5 месяцев назад

    “A grin cannot be killed”
    Blackstone pylons:

  • @user-ro2nn7lt3r
    @user-ro2nn7lt3r 7 месяцев назад +5

    Book of Choyer delivers. Thanks for the Christmas presents !

  • @citrusorange794
    @citrusorange794 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks to the Octarius war the Orks despite taking a major loss are even stronger. The Orks vs Word Eaters are going to be one of the main fights for 10th edition.

  • @TheKotor2309
    @TheKotor2309 7 месяцев назад +3

    Merry WAAAGHMAS! 🎄

  • @81greenknight
    @81greenknight 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great idea.

  • @battleax6364
    @battleax6364 7 месяцев назад +1

    Your voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to

  • @bigsadge747
    @bigsadge747 7 месяцев назад +2

    i would love to see angron get spawncamped by the new hulking and buffed tuska daemonkilla and his also buffed up boyz as a neat end to angrons duel

  • @codyt.1905
    @codyt.1905 7 месяцев назад +1

    I see it more as a large scale engagement, Ghaz hopping out of the warp with a WAAAGH to engage wherever Angron is, inadvertently handing some sort of win to the Imperium, leveling up ghaz to then be maybe the beast level.

  • @seanturner1197
    @seanturner1197 6 месяцев назад +11

    Since angron has been granted the ability to reappear in real space, every 8 weeks, 8 days and 8 hours , all the Orks have to do is wait until he reappears and then they krump 'im gud, tearing out his spleen faster than he can act. And during the constant ambushing, the Ork's WAAGH!!! will enable them to predict when and where the daemon primarch will show up.
    If angron appears at this place, on this day, of this year, of this decade and this time, then he will appear and then they jump him, knock out his teef and send him back to the warp.
    And because this occurs constantly ,angron would soon realize that the gift the blood god gave him was in fact a curse and he would despair every time he reappeared in real space.
    And then angron will remember something from his past.
    He will recall who it was that made him what he is.
    He will recall that he never really wanted daemonhood.
    He will remember who it was that denied him freedom from pain caused by the staples that were jammed into his head.
    He goes up to khorne, asks to have this boon removed from him and in exchange, he will present to khorne, the skull of a certain daemon prince.
    He stops reappearing in real space but corvus corrax senses that he isn't alone in his hunt for lorgar.....
    Disclaimer: I am NOT an author.

    • @kreedsutherland4207
      @kreedsutherland4207 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nah you ain't no author.

    • @CyberXHunter
      @CyberXHunter 6 месяцев назад +3

      This isn't a likely scenario. What is more plausible however is Ghazghull learning that Angron's death throws him back into the Warp, and him coming to the conclusion that if he dies there, he dies for good, and so then takes the Orc Waaaaaagh into the Warp to chase down Angron before he can materialize in realspace again. Thus the greatest Waaaaagh in the Galaxy doesn't target the Imperium, or anything in real space. It threatens the Immaterium, and all that is connected to it including Psyker powers and the Astronomicon, which would be a devastation to all of existence except maybe the Tyranids.

    • @seanturner1197
      @seanturner1197 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@CyberXHunter
      Wow. I never considered that.
      Ghazkul would also keep tuska the daemon killa company if that scenario played out as well.

    • @whitefam420
      @whitefam420 6 месяцев назад

      @@CyberXHunter Ghaz has zero shot of even remotely being able to fight angron. This is silly, the feats of the two are so insanely lopsided that it's not even a fair fight. Angry Ron was destroying battleships in the vacuum of space before promptly destroying Grey knights and a whole damn planet lol
      He also beat the breaks off of leman Russ (the actual primarch of the space wolves) before he was even a demon primarch.

    • @painlord2k
      @painlord2k Месяц назад

      @@whitefam420 Leman just drove Angron in a trap, completely surrounded by the Vilka Fenrika and at its complete mercy.

  • @bradrankin844
    @bradrankin844 7 месяцев назад +5

    If the demon would be defeated, I wonder if the orc with level up with a bunch of demon upgrades all over him for his” prize” of winning the contest!?

  • @huntermad5668
    @huntermad5668 7 месяцев назад +4

    Should be noted that the Angel had fought for days then defeated Kabandazh before fighting Angron.
    Angron only fought against near exhausted Angel and got clapped hard.

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 6 месяцев назад

      The angel had to rip angron's nails out to banish him

    • @huntermad5668
      @huntermad5668 6 месяцев назад +1

      And?
      Angron was only so tough because he was juiced up by the carnage on Terra.
      He was like 150% with massive regen.
      When he fought against the Lion, not so tough...
      The Angel was like at 40-50% and he smashed Angron's brain/soul to pieces.
      Sure he was near mortally wounded by he came out on top when it should be be that.

  • @anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470
    @anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470 6 месяцев назад +2

    You know that's something I can see a particularly manipulative Inquisitor doing letting him know Yorick was killed by angron

  • @andyroberts310
    @andyroberts310 6 месяцев назад +2

    I fully believe Gaz would kill Angron at least once and almost wipe out his army in the 8 weeks 8 days and 8 hours it takes for Angron to manifest again. But I can't even comprehend how much larger and stronger Gaz would be at that stage. If he killed Angron a second time I'd wager Gaz would be getting very close to the level of a Krorc and who knows what would happen then.

  • @Zephyrbal
    @Zephyrbal 7 месяцев назад +7

    Ghazghkull should defeat Angron and win him as a trophy for Gork and Mork, preventing him from respawning for awhile

    • @painlord2k
      @painlord2k Месяц назад

      If Gaz defeat Angron I could see him take the Nails as trophy.
      When Khorne try to take Angron back the Emperor arrives and, without the Nails, take back the original Angron.

  • @charlottebreckenridge659
    @charlottebreckenridge659 7 месяцев назад +11

    Angron is the answer to the question, “why men should go to therapy” but he is one of my favourite of the emperor’s sons Because he is such a deeply tragic figure even if few in the galaxy acknowledge this 😢 Gaz does have good reason to fight him though 😅

    • @Hewrin88
      @Hewrin88 7 месяцев назад +4

      not sure if therapy would help with the Butchers Nails. Worth a shot tho!

    • @yadakakadu
      @yadakakadu 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hewrin88 Unless there is a brain implant called "therapy".

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 7 месяцев назад +2

      The best answer is the night haunter.

    • @Equinox2149
      @Equinox2149 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@louisnall3102 The guy was about to tear out his own eyes and you give him a legion... Good job Big E

  • @robluxipiech4033
    @robluxipiech4033 6 месяцев назад

    This was cool. I'm a lore hound. Saint to some, autist to others lmao.
    Srs tho, I appreciate good lore, presented well, and videos like this truly draw a line in the sand daring lesser creators to do better lol.
    Well done.

  • @pakornwattanavrangkul2550
    @pakornwattanavrangkul2550 6 месяцев назад +1

    It all comes down to how much warp energy is avalible

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 7 месяцев назад +29

    Angron just sealed his fate when he bloodied his axe with Yarrick's blood. Ghazghkull must be the one to deal the final blow upon the Red Angel and avenge Yarrick's death by Angron's daemonic hands.

    • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
      @Kristian.B.Kristiansen 7 месяцев назад +3

      That is meme lore! It never happened.

    • @TFZ.
      @TFZ. 7 месяцев назад +5

      "Dat red GIT done a dir'y deed Boss... 'E killed yer fav'rit nemesis!!!"
      "..."
      *"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!"*

  • @mr.greenthumb8446
    @mr.greenthumb8446 6 месяцев назад

    Angron= Ang-ron.... not Aən-grin😂
    Love what you do tho brother, no matter how much I hate small trivial shit like pronunciations and annunciations lol. But seriously!! EVERYTHING ELSE is absolutely excellent.
    Hands down one of my most favorite 40k lore channels.🐐💯

  • @shimazutakuma1031
    @shimazutakuma1031 6 месяцев назад +1

    does that mean.. you have "8 weeks, 8 days, and 8 hours" to truly kill angron? wherever he is in the warp anyway, maybe Jagatai could do it

  • @PandaWolf525
    @PandaWolf525 7 месяцев назад +7

    The first mistake Angron made was killing Yarrik. And as Ghaz said once. “Good Enemiz iz Hardz to Com By.”

  • @hibbidyjibbidyy
    @hibbidyjibbidyy 6 часов назад

    ok, well i didnty know i looooved khorn, well done sir

  • @trolldrool
    @trolldrool 7 месяцев назад +15

    In single combat, I think Angron would flatten Ghazghkull like a pancake and then use the flattened remains like a wet blanket to bitchslap his Waaagh! across the galaxy. In a single battle where they both had their full combined forces, as described in the video, at their disposal, it could go either way. If Ghazghkull decided to declare a galaxy wide Waaagh! on Angron, being given the opportunity and time to plan his approach, I think it's more likely that the orks would attack the World Eaters Legion in multiple separate encounters when they were isolated from each other.
    The World Eaters are hardly a unified Legion anymore, fragmented into various independent warbands who can't always be relied on to help each other if one of them comes under attack from, say a massive ork fleet in space. Because of this, it would probably take some time before the World Eaters realized that these weren't just greenskin xenos being greenskin xenos, but an organized attack against their Legion as a whole. And by then, their forces would be so dimished that if not necessarily a guaranteed victory, would give Ghazghkull's Waaagh! a numerical advantage in a final confrontation.

    • @storminmormn6283
      @storminmormn6283 7 месяцев назад +5

      Exactly my thoughts. Angron is first and foremost a Primarch. Basically a God amongst men. Now imagine that same Primarch on Warp steroids and a special blessing of the God of Blood and carnage. Gaz is just a huge Ork.

    • @GRIMWOODz
      @GRIMWOODz 3 месяца назад

      ​@@storminmormn6283 When Khorne was nothing but a period stain in some nuns panties from the medieval age GorkaMorkas boyz had already stomped half the galaxy in the war against necrons millions of year’s prior they're the embodiment of destruction itself. Ghaz is their chosen prophet of the 41st millennium said the bring the biggest waaggh of all time (Tyranids) so I wouldn't place your bets just yet.

  • @therealcutman
    @therealcutman 7 месяцев назад +2

    Give one on Gork & Mork brother 🙏🏾👐🏾
    Your Welcome 😉👐🏾

  • @bignelly9476
    @bignelly9476 7 месяцев назад +7

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH

  • @Lost7one
    @Lost7one 7 месяцев назад +17

    Ghazghkull Thraka would not last more than some seconds against Angron, it is a silly comparison. Ghazghkull Thraka loses to the top tier of Space Marine champions, what chance does he have against a demon primarch lol. Awesome video though tbf but it is Angron not Angrund

    • @thehorrorist3471
      @thehorrorist3471 7 месяцев назад +6

      Lol Ghaz wins by armbar

    • @MagosBiologis-cj3ru
      @MagosBiologis-cj3ru 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ghazghkull can outsmart Angron as he never was smartest and currently he's brainrot

    • @Onbutteredtoast
      @Onbutteredtoast 7 месяцев назад +2

      That’s like asking how can a ork and a squig defeat a imperial knight

    • @somebody4399
      @somebody4399 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@Onbutteredtoast or two orks and a squig with a shockjump dragsta a warlord titan

    • @painlord2k
      @painlord2k Месяц назад

      @@Onbutteredtoast It is like asking how an ork can defeat an imperial Titan.

  • @Holammer
    @Holammer 5 месяцев назад

    I want to see Ghaz crumpin' Angron unceremoniously like a chump. Gently remove Yarrick's skull from his belt and deliver a heartfelt soliloquy worthy of Shakespeare.
    Not only because it's a funny ass mental image, but I imagine the Waaagh he assembles to deal with the Red Git will be legendary. The psychic gestalt growing to the point with Ork power and sophistication unseen since the War of the Beast. The sky blotted out by Attack moons.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm pulling for Maggie Thatcher, for sure.

  • @ApexBovine
    @ApexBovine 6 месяцев назад +7

    I think angron's plot armour is thicker than ghazgull's, unfortunately. it would still be the fight of his life and maybe even cripple him in some way, but the primearchs - even traitor ones - are intrinsic to the 40k lore. I'm kind of hopping it was all a ploy by yarrick to kill 2 birds with one stone and ghazzgull gets a kick out of it.

    • @rasmus97able
      @rasmus97able 6 месяцев назад

      i had the same thought, hope ghaz wins and we get to see him flipping out when yarrick pops out after the fight

  • @CaptainRumface
    @CaptainRumface 6 месяцев назад +1

    Angron gunna hav his teef kicked in wen da boss finds 'im. WAAAAAAAAGHHHH

  • @seatonking8136
    @seatonking8136 7 месяцев назад +2

    They need to fight it out. The poles were close so its still down to casualties. Either way Khorne will have the popcorn ready haha

  • @jamesdeek7039
    @jamesdeek7039 Месяц назад

    I want to see ghazkhul beefed up by his own gods, give angron a proper krumpin

  • @cmorales018
    @cmorales018 3 месяца назад +1

    DA BOYZ COMIN FOR DAT RED GIT

  • @TheCasualMark
    @TheCasualMark 7 месяцев назад +17

    1v1 Angron wins without a doubt. Army vs Army, Ghaz wins through kunnin and weight of numbers. Keep in mind Orks DO have Titans of their own, it wouldn’t even be a contest.

    • @j.t8529
      @j.t8529 Месяц назад +2

      And their titans is easily 10x to 50x the Imperium has in every given war and they're as deadly as the Imperial Titans too but they lack void shields

  • @therasslintheatre2960
    @therasslintheatre2960 7 месяцев назад

    Hopefully we'll get a Cathay video next year ?

  • @zakken1042
    @zakken1042 7 месяцев назад +4

    The thing is, Angron will eat Ghaz for breakfast, without a doubt. But Ghaz will do some damage nonetheless, but will it be enough?…
    Sad but true.

    • @KameSennin4209
      @KameSennin4209 7 месяцев назад +3

      Dat's 'umie finkin' fer ya! Ghaz gots dat WAAAAAAGH energy!

  • @killerzillavolt2655
    @killerzillavolt2655 7 месяцев назад +16

    I hope they do meet. This should be the fight that turns Ghazghkull into a Kroark and then "kill" Angron.

    • @Awwscrewit
      @Awwscrewit 7 месяцев назад

      Ghaz could potentially permanently kill Angron. Remember, the Orks pre-date the chaos gods and their psychic connection, the Green, comes from the Old Ones. The orks are also the only race that the Warp cannot influence. It's entirely possible that what is called Waaaagh energy could destroy Warp demons.

    • @killerzillavolt2655
      @killerzillavolt2655 7 месяцев назад

      @Awwscrewit of course GW wouldn't let Angron permanently die but maybe have Ghaz end Angron's quick respawn and banish him for a long time.

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@killerzillavolt2655The only reason angron has a quick respawn is because khorne is more powerful in the current setting

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 6 месяцев назад

      Besides, if orks were able to perma kill demons using the excuse they were here before the chaos gods, due to war on heaven, then why haven't it happened orks killed demons in the past. The only race i would understand having the ability to perma kill demons are the necrons due to theit weapons and gear fucking with the warp

  • @sebaseba6710
    @sebaseba6710 6 месяцев назад

    Why are there so few likes?! This is epic!

  • @Motolmang
    @Motolmang 2 месяца назад

    I wish GW would make an expansion set for Orks and world eaters and do this fight kinda like how the leviathan set was for nids vs ultramorons
    I wanna see the World Eater and Ork (best choice) players absolutely tear into one another.

  • @biggs3839
    @biggs3839 6 месяцев назад +1

    If the Orks do kill Angron they may use their belief power to make him stay dead.

  • @Happyface714
    @Happyface714 6 месяцев назад

    Bro I expected a mini story on a hypothetical clash

  • @SovietSeething
    @SovietSeething Месяц назад

    as an Iron warriors player, the red angle would get farmed by the green skins. if they figured out his summoning table hed become a pokemon to them

  • @geraltofrivia8529
    @geraltofrivia8529 6 месяцев назад

    The greatest waargh is the devourer. But this will be a good warm up.

  • @balintmagyar3285
    @balintmagyar3285 5 месяцев назад

    Though I'm a huge Ghazghkull Thraka maniac, honestly doubting he could kill Angron. It would be an immense battle between the two of course.

  • @Emperor.-2207
    @Emperor.-2207 6 месяцев назад

    Can i please what's the name of the song of angron and sanguineous part

  • @sebastianhovenas272
    @sebastianhovenas272 7 месяцев назад +3

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

  • @keikun145
    @keikun145 7 месяцев назад +1

    So even tho you can kill Angron he just keeps reviving back in 8 weeks? So how do you really stop him?

  • @dylanjordan535
    @dylanjordan535 7 месяцев назад +2

    Dat big red git iz gonna regret doin in ol bale eye i tell ya! WAAAAAGH!