Would you put UA’s OX Stomp in your rig? Tell us in the comments if you’d incorporate this dynamic speaker emulator pedal in your setup, and be sure to swing by Sweetwater for a detailed look at the Universal Audio OX Stomp 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/Universal_Audio_OX_Stomp
Just one thing to note - You refer to IR's a few times. This doesn't use IR's. Its physically modelled. Its a completely different technology. Effectively the same as a guitar 'Profiler' such as Kemper/ToneX (which are like virtual snapshots) vs a guitar 'modeller' such as the Helix, which is algorithmic based. So IR's are profile based as they are static and cannot truly emulate all speaker conditions (hence why IR library's can be significantly large). UA are the first as far as i know to do algorithmic speaker processing and imho you can really tell the difference in sound and feel.
You are totally right of course, and it's not a minor oversight to not mention the proprietary technology in the OX, which sounds well, just better than static IRs.
Recording straight from the USB and a headphone out would have made this sooooooo useful for me. Silent practice, easy way to make guitar videos on my iPhone *with good audio*, mobile recording, etc.--all without having to turn on a computer (which I sit in front of all day for work).
Hi; UA told me, on their own RUclips vid, use a (2)-1/4” > whichever female phones receptacle & that’s their ‘cans solution #1’. I’m betting a 4x mini mixer (zoom?) will also give us a cans jack. For tracking, they said (1)-1/4” > cabs female receptor & track in on the (other) mono output. But, aye, I’d rather have had them cram even a 1/8” cans output.
So, while this all seems really cool, I can't figure out the why! If I have a modeler, they all have IRs built in. Most have the reverbs, etc, too. Preamp pedals have IRs built in. The only plus of the OG Ox is the load box for converting a real amp to line level recording and / or lower sage/recording volume. I guess what I'm saying is that the only thing that I might find useful would be a pedal sized OX with the load box and these features.
Well, you might think the Ox Stomp sounds better, or is more controllable, than what you have in a modeller. Also you might want to take the workload off your modeller's CPU. Then again, you may have an amp you like but be using it occasionally in larger venues where you need it "mic'd" to Front Of House. But I agree that for the difference this will make in practical application it won't be worth it for most guitarists.
Many of the modelers use IRs that are static snapshots of a sound, whereas OX Stomp uses physical modeling to create dynamic emulation speaker cabs, microphones and room to and you can hear the increased dynamics plus you get more control with a wide range of cabinets, multiple mics and effects to dial in your sound. So if this makes your modeler sound better and gives you more control then it may be useful.
great for tube preamps also not everybody is an amp modeler guy, this is great for synergy modules, victory v4 preamps. Or to record tube amps using a load box line out, for example a captor + ox stomp is
This unit is right in my wheelhouse because I use two different switchable sansamp preamps into additional pedals via a switcher without a cabinet emulated output.... This solves that problem without having to do so with more awkward and lower quality alternatives that aren't pedalboard based typically. I like things as modular as possible so I can swap things out with minimal negatives - this hits that goal square in the nose. I am not locked in a preamp with a unit like this for instance. Nor do I have to pay for attenuation I don't need or will actually use. Just run this into whatever the situation dicates... Done
Oops! You’re absolutely correct. I got rolling into the video and started saying “IRs” instead of dynamic models. Sorry about that! Thanks for watching, Mitch
No, 2Notes uses a simple IR with tweaks; UA uses dynamic cab models. Different technology and a far more realistic sound (if, that is, this pedal sounds like my OX when compared to my Torpedo, which it should....)
@@DanBires an IR is just a static equaliser (ie applies a fixed bass and treble cut to match the cab frequency response at an arbitrary volume) although you can tweak the Torpedo response a bit by changing mics etc (they call this "dynaIR but in reality it ain't dyna-anything). The exact UA method is lost in the mysteries of commercial copyright, but is best considered as a number of IRs, each taken at a different cab volume; so, as you turn up your amp, the UA seamlessly morphs from one IR to another. So you play quiet and you get the cab/speaker behaving itself; but play loud, and the cab/speaker emulates cone resonance; play very loud and it emulates come breakup.
@@digitalchris6681 " (they call this "dynaIR but in reality it ain't dyna-anything)" they call it DynIR because you can move the mics around (whihc the OX stuff doesn't seem to do) and also use the speaker overload parameter. So it is dynamic, but in a different way.
Hi, James-tt7vg! Thanks for your message, hope you’re well and safe. The OX is designed for full amplifiers, the Iridium is a pedal and wouldn’t take advantage of the feature set. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater That is flat out wrong. You can disengage the cab sim on the Iridium and use the Ox Stomp with the amp emulations only, and this gets a much better sound than the built-in IRs the Iridium comes with.
@@sam-browne I stand corrected, I read the initial question as using the full tabletop OX and not the pedal. You’re absolutely spot on with your comment. Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
Hi, Singlehand The OX Stomp doesn’t have the ability to have 3rd party IR’s loaded into it. That said, thanks to all the cabs emulations and mic options, I would expect you to find great options within the pedal and the Control app. Thanks for your interest! Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1320, charlie_davis@sweetwater.com
Well… I’m probably going to need both! The Friedman IR-X is a fantastic self-contained solution. The Ox Stomp lets me use all my Synergy gear and all of my amp-in-a-box pedals so easily. Thanks for watching, Mitch
@@sweetwater Hi Mitch . I hope you're doing well . I'm still using my 18 Watt Randall Tube Amp Head with my Fender Clean Module and my Plexi/ SL+ Module . I want a Synergy Amp Head so bad . But due to the Economy my Factory shut down several months ago . But eventually I'll have the 20 Watt Synergy Amp Head with the Metropolis Module . Stay safe Dude . And I love your Videos
Thanks for your question, happy to help. While you can physically connect the OX Stomp to the front of an amp, that’s not at all its purpose. It’s designed to work with Amp In A Box pedals and go direct to a mixer or powered speaker. Connecting to a traditional guitar amp would output a speaker into a preamp into a physical speaker. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
It gives you more options for speakers/cabinets and you get more control with the ability to choose 2 close mics and room mic(s). Plus you get eq, reverb, delay and compression.
@@robmcgaughey1938Rob please do a UAFX Ampeg b-15 or Svt pro iii for bass 🙏 And please have presets added to Galaxy and Max similar to how we hold the foot switch down to save on Ox Stomp.
What they call "rig" isn't a rig, it's only what comes after the poweramp : cab/mic, etc... A rig should also have what comes before : amp, pedals... They should have called it something else (like "cab/mic IR" or something). If you keep the exact same chain and settings but just change their "rig", it wont' magically get you from a high gain metal tone to a crunchy funk tone or a dreamy clean... The only way to do that would be to have MIDI switching between all these devices (synergy module and OX stomp pedal).
Would you put UA’s OX Stomp in your rig? Tell us in the comments if you’d incorporate this dynamic speaker emulator pedal in your setup, and be sure to swing by Sweetwater for a detailed look at the Universal Audio OX Stomp 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/Universal_Audio_OX_Stomp
Just one thing to note - You refer to IR's a few times. This doesn't use IR's. Its physically modelled. Its a completely different technology. Effectively the same as a guitar 'Profiler' such as Kemper/ToneX (which are like virtual snapshots) vs a guitar 'modeller' such as the Helix, which is algorithmic based. So IR's are profile based as they are static and cannot truly emulate all speaker conditions (hence why IR library's can be significantly large). UA are the first as far as i know to do algorithmic speaker processing and imho you can really tell the difference in sound and feel.
Helix uses IR’s
Reading your comment made my brain hurt
You are totally right of course, and it's not a minor oversight to not mention the proprietary technology in the OX, which sounds well, just better than static IRs.
Hey, good job.
Well stated.
You get extra Blessings This week Sir😊
@@docholliday7777 Yeah,lol. I was there not too long ago. I'm a bit scared I got what he's saying.
Forget the gear. Mitch’s shirt 🔥🙌🏻😃
Recording straight from the USB and a headphone out would have made this sooooooo useful for me.
Silent practice, easy way to make guitar videos on my iPhone *with good audio*, mobile recording, etc.--all without having to turn on a computer (which I sit in front of all day for work).
Hi; UA told me, on their own RUclips vid, use a (2)-1/4” > whichever female phones receptacle & that’s their ‘cans solution #1’.
I’m betting a 4x mini mixer (zoom?) will also give us a cans jack.
For tracking, they said (1)-1/4” > cabs female receptor & track in on the (other) mono output.
But, aye, I’d rather have had them cram even a 1/8” cans output.
Much like the original OX, not sure why they bothered with the USB. There will never be any upgrades if it is abandoned like the original.
Some nice Fender cleans would have been nice.
UAFX please let us control your pedals with midi, that would make them so much more friendly with each other and other pedals in general
They need to sell v1 first then, make money on v2 with midi
@@gigfreakph This 100%
lol@@gigfreakph
Yeah... Good luck changing your guitar tone (from say bluesy lead to fuzzy rhythm) just by changing their "rig" :)
Mitch just running the shirt game🔥🔥🔥
Id buy one if it came with that shirt Mitch is wearing.
So, while this all seems really cool, I can't figure out the why! If I have a modeler, they all have IRs built in. Most have the reverbs, etc, too. Preamp pedals have IRs built in. The only plus of the OG Ox is the load box for converting a real amp to line level recording and / or lower sage/recording volume. I guess what I'm saying is that the only thing that I might find useful would be a pedal sized OX with the load box and these features.
Well, you might think the Ox Stomp sounds better, or is more controllable, than what you have in a modeller. Also you might want to take the workload off your modeller's CPU. Then again, you may have an amp you like but be using it occasionally in larger venues where you need it "mic'd" to Front Of House. But I agree that for the difference this will make in practical application it won't be worth it for most guitarists.
Many of the modelers use IRs that are static snapshots of a sound, whereas OX Stomp uses physical modeling to create dynamic emulation speaker cabs, microphones and room to and you can hear the increased dynamics plus you get more control with a wide range of cabinets, multiple mics and effects to dial in your sound. So if this makes your modeler sound better and gives you more control then it may be useful.
great for tube preamps also not everybody is an amp modeler guy, this is great for synergy modules, victory v4 preamps. Or to record tube amps using a load box line out, for example a captor + ox stomp is
This unit is right in my wheelhouse because I use two different switchable sansamp preamps into additional pedals via a switcher without a cabinet emulated output.... This solves that problem without having to do so with more awkward and lower quality alternatives that aren't pedalboard based typically.
I like things as modular as possible so I can swap things out with minimal negatives - this hits that goal square in the nose. I am not locked in a preamp with a unit like this for instance. Nor do I have to pay for attenuation I don't need or will actually use. Just run this into whatever the situation dicates... Done
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Mitch this doesn’t use IR, it’s a different technology that is dynamic. The people from UA are making an effort to clarify that.
Oops! You’re absolutely correct. I got rolling into the video and started saying “IRs” instead of dynamic models.
Sorry about that!
Thanks for watching,
Mitch
Yes but it is, it is probably the same technology as Celestion uses, but UAD don´t want you to use other companies stuff.
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I want to run my hx stomp into this… bet it won’t disappoint. Their starlight delay sounds amazing.
I wonder if they update the Ox Box now... it's been years!!!!
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Where can I buy the wooden box you have the effects on? Bonus question, who makes that shirt?
No headphone out again ?
Is this the same technology of amp profiler like kemper/tonex or not?
This is basically like a 2notes without the preamps. It sounds great.
No, 2Notes uses a simple IR with tweaks; UA uses dynamic cab models. Different technology and a far more realistic sound (if, that is, this pedal sounds like my OX when compared to my Torpedo, which it should....)
@@digitalchris6681 what’s the difference between an IR and dynamic cab?
@@DanBires an IR is just a static equaliser (ie applies a fixed bass and treble cut to match the cab frequency response at an arbitrary volume) although you can tweak the Torpedo response a bit by changing mics etc (they call this "dynaIR but in reality it ain't dyna-anything). The exact UA method is lost in the mysteries of commercial copyright, but is best considered as a number of IRs, each taken at a different cab volume; so, as you turn up your amp, the UA seamlessly morphs from one IR to another. So you play quiet and you get the cab/speaker behaving itself; but play loud, and the cab/speaker emulates cone resonance; play very loud and it emulates come breakup.
@@digitalchris6681 " (they call this "dynaIR but in reality it ain't dyna-anything)" they call it DynIR because you can move the mics around (whihc the OX stuff doesn't seem to do) and also use the speaker overload parameter. So it is dynamic, but in a different way.
So you have 2 different mics for the mic'ed speaker cabinets plus a 3rd Room mic?
Yes and the room mic can be a stereo pair as well.
Mitch, this re-amps? Did I hear that correctly?
No power amp simulation?
Are the mics dynamic models, or just the speakers/cabs?
yes, same as OX Amp Top Box, the OX Stomp has dynamic models for the cabs, mics and room.
thank you@@robmcgaughey1938 !
Way Cool!
Will this pedal work with the Strymon Iridium ? Thanx.
Hi, James-tt7vg! Thanks for your message, hope you’re well and safe. The OX is designed for full amplifiers, the Iridium is a pedal and wouldn’t take advantage of the feature set.
Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them!
Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater That is flat out wrong. You can disengage the cab sim on the Iridium and use the Ox Stomp with the amp emulations only, and this gets a much better sound than the built-in IRs the Iridium comes with.
@@sam-browne I stand corrected, I read the initial question as using the full tabletop OX and not the pedal. You’re absolutely spot on with your comment.
Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
Awesome!!!🌟🌟💯💯
How could you use it with a real amp that doesn't have a line out?
You would have to use a load box.
Buy the OX instead
Y cable at the FX send output of your amp, if your amp has an fx loop. Otherwise, loadbox/Torpedo Captor kind of thing after the speaker output.
If I use Dream 65, do I need to bypass speaker from Dream 65 in order to use Ox stomp?
@@andytylerbell got it, thank you 👍🏼
How did you connect the pedal with the app of the Ipad? If the USB C port of the pedal is only for the firmware update
It's explained in the video at around 13:00 - bluetooth.
Hi, can you upload your own IRs? Thanks 🙏
No, they are proprietory.
Hi, Singlehand The OX Stomp doesn’t have the ability to have 3rd party IR’s loaded into it. That said, thanks to all the cabs emulations and mic options, I would expect you to find great options within the pedal and the Control app.
Thanks for your interest!
Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1320, charlie_davis@sweetwater.com
Mitch, which do you prefer this or the Friedman ir x
Well… I’m probably going to need both! The Friedman IR-X is a fantastic self-contained solution. The Ox Stomp lets me use all my Synergy gear and all of my amp-in-a-box pedals so easily.
Thanks for watching,
Mitch
@@sweetwater Hi Mitch . I hope you're doing well .
I'm still using my 18 Watt Randall Tube Amp Head with my Fender Clean Module and my Plexi/ SL+ Module . I want a Synergy Amp Head so bad . But due to the Economy my Factory shut down several months ago . But eventually I'll have the 20 Watt Synergy Amp Head with the Metropolis Module . Stay safe Dude . And I love your Videos
Can you plug this into an amp or is this just for speakers?
I suppose you can use the effects, (Compressor, EQ, Flange, Delay and Reverb) in an amp setup.
Thanks for your question, happy to help. While you can physically connect the OX Stomp to the front of an amp, that’s not at all its purpose. It’s designed to work with Amp In A Box pedals and go direct to a mixer or powered speaker. Connecting to a traditional guitar amp would output a speaker into a preamp into a physical speaker.
Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them!
Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
Xlr out?
Wouldn’t running the Dream 65 into this be counterintuitive?
It gives you more options for speakers/cabinets and you get more control with the ability to choose 2 close mics and room mic(s). Plus you get eq, reverb, delay and compression.
@@robmcgaughey1938Rob please do a UAFX Ampeg b-15 or Svt pro iii for bass 🙏
And please have presets added to Galaxy and Max similar to how we hold the foot switch down to save on Ox Stomp.
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If only I could use my midi switcher to chose rigs 🤪🤷♂️
V2 will have that😂
No XLR is a shame for live use.
What they call "rig" isn't a rig, it's only what comes after the poweramp : cab/mic, etc...
A rig should also have what comes before : amp, pedals...
They should have called it something else (like "cab/mic IR" or something).
If you keep the exact same chain and settings but just change their "rig", it wont' magically get you from a high gain metal tone to a crunchy funk tone or a dreamy clean...
The only way to do that would be to have MIDI switching between all these devices (synergy module and OX stomp pedal).