New Wheels and Exhaust Turns into MANY Problems
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- New Wheels and Exhaust Turns into MANY Problems
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Just a heads up on the tires. I saw the date code @2:32. They date back to the 24th week of 2007.
Yup. While those BF Goodrich have the old school and look great, they are outdated tires. He should get Michellin Pilot Sport 4S, now we are talking…amazing grippy tires…
He did a good job of reviving the white lettering and painting the center of the wheels though. Good job!
Love the new tires and the Borla exhaust amazing job! This and the last video makes me wanna work on my dad’s Ford 1986 Bronco so bad lol.
Thumbs up so you can get your own place with a lift and a big garage.
Black Magic bought Wesley's Bleach White n now it's crap. Used Wesley's on all my parents whitewall tires back in the day. Now it's back to Comet powder cleaner which was my 2nd favorite.
Aic valve. Is your surgery problem
Terrible spacers, need hub centric. Those ones drop on the lugs uneven when you put them on and while driving will be unbalanced
That bounce is pretty normal for a car with leafs in the rear end. It’s probably a vacuum issue for your idling issue but most hotrods need to be nursed for a minute to get them to idle.
I have a crate blaster - engine was missing, put in a chinese 250cc lifan - supposed to be like a week job - its been 2 years....but I am tackling it right now to get it sorted and then restore the chassis.
Much better wheels! And I was a big fan of the corvette and was really looking forward to that resto but I must say… I am sooo glad you traded it up for the mustang. Your judgment is on point, and I must add you are looking fit my man!!! 💪👊
Not sure if you mentioned it in the video, but check the pinion angle. Can cause vibrations/damage if it is wrong.
Yes if it's too strait it will cause alot more shake than you would think, plus it's good for them needle bearings to move a full rotation! Makes ur universals last longer!
@@leehuntley189Pinion angles also depend on what type of rear suspension you’re running, i.e. solid axle or leafs.. Then you have to move into the fact that if you’re using solid heims, Delrin urethane, or rubber components out back, you again have to take deflection and wrap into consideration in which pinion angle/degree you set it all up at.
After spending thousands in the early 00's on fox body Mustangs and their piss poor ECU's and EFI system the best mod i did was to go with a carburetor. Now that we have Retro-EFI systems I wouldn't consider spending $1 on the OG fox body EFI stuff (even aftermarket). Been building hot rods and muscle cars for 25+ years....and I only recommend two systems; Fi-Tech and the Summit Racing MAX-500, (Old holley sniper is plagued with issues, no experience with Sniper II). I'd go with an Edelbrock "air gap" intake (Performer rpm if no hood clearance) and the Fi-Tech system. You'd also need a return-style fuel system good for 40+psi (Fi-tech makes a drop-in in-tank pump module) and a different distributor (Summit Racing branded ignition stuff is good/ affordable, stay away from MSD!). For heads you can't go wrong with AFR, Edelbrock, Trick-Flow, etc.... Just make sure when you do heads to upgrade the valve train (roller rockers, correct length hardened push rods, quality rocker studs, ARP head bolts).
I had the opposite results. Got rid of my Fi-Tech and went with Holly Sniper, much better.
It’s probably the fuel pump going out and I’d also recommend doing the Holley terminator EFI kit instead of the edilbrock one
IAC Valve is most likely your cold start surge issue. (Idle Air Control Valve)
Looked like a pain in the arse for you but it was fun to watch 🤣. Wheel choice was a good one that touch of black and size made it look more aggressive. 🤜🏼💥🤛🏼
Hey I just started following you for about a week now. I have watched every one of your videos now. All I have to say is that you are absolutely incredible at what you do. Your rebuilds look better than factory.
Mike, pull the shaft and inspect the slipjoint. It may be worn. If the tailshaft housing is removeable, the bushing can be replaced easily enough. Looked like the rear seal was seeping, so replace it. Spicer Ujoints only!! No cheap ones!! Make certain they have zerks on em so you can do proper maintenance. Get a damn extension and go for it!! The tailshaft typically does float some. The bushing and slipjoint support it. polish the slipjount with 150 or 220 grit paper and lube the seal groove with a light grease. The slipjoint is fine, POLISH it!!
Marginal or dirty MAF sensor... I am assuming someone bastardized an EFI system in there! If so, it really needs proper calibration and also look at the ECT. Engine Coolant Sensor. If it is faulty, it can affect performance across the board.
A big cam takes away from low end torque, making streetable driving less than pleasant. A mild cam is fine since they are typically designed around a good balance of torque and horsiepower. A ProFlo system is a very nice system buuuuuut, you have to really know how to tune them and let them learn from there. Stay away from FiTech since they are a pain in the ass for setup. MSI also makes a nice system. I prefer the port injection systems over TBI systems.
i would look into doing a base idle reset to fix the idle all the 90s ford engines all do that
Hey bud check the born on date of those tires you definitely don't want a blow out!!!
Check for vacuum leak with that idle surge
Idle air control valve is searching for a good mixture. Maybe be vacuum leak or wore aic
Air idle control valve is the surging issue. Very common on those motors.
Tire and wheel choice is spot on. Now for the bad news...you're too much of a perfectionist to not restore that car. When it comes time to put "rings" in that engine, just get a crate engine with a carburetor, it will fix the surging issue in the process. It's the way that car needs to be. It will be cheaper in the long run.
I was wondering if the obligatory open header rev was gonna happen.....
Im just here for next top quad series . Everyone on youtube are doing car stuff
That wesleys used to be awesome to bring the kawasaki green seats back to life. Great video!
hey Mr Sabo those old fuel injected 5.0’s can surge for any number of reasons. i would recommend you start by cleaning the aic (idle air control) valve that’s on the throttle body. its very common for those to get clogged up with carbon and other contaminates. you should also thoroughly check for vacuum leaks as that’s another common cause for a surging idle. next you should do a base idle reset, brew2l has a very detailed video on how to do that. if it’s still surging there is an entire forum dedicated to the “surging idle checklist” i would recommend going through that as well. best of luck as this surging problem can be extremely annoying
The cold start issue is probably the IAC ...
Glad you took the Flowmasters off. I wanted them when I was younger due to the sound and got mac and liked them a lot better plus they perform way better. The surge is the IAC. Don't dump that kind of money into that 302 you can build a 351 stroker cheaper and have a more powerful and more durable motor. Seriously don't play with that Hypereutectic piston 302. Also I'm not 100% sure on this because I'm not a 302 guy but I'm pretty sure the trick flow intake is the best one. 5k is also pretty steep for an intake and heads like really steep. You can get 4.6 2v parts cheaper than that and the pushrod stuff is way cheaper.
Idle control may need a new one shoud be by the throttle intake
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Your work is so clean......
it because of the cam, every camed vehicle of any year does that when its cold
but i will tell you check an see if the upgraded the oil pump specially if u dint install the cam
hard shift could be caused by the clutch an clutch basket, i replace those considering you dont know how many miles are on it, vibration can be caused by a. lose sub frame b. motor/trans mount being bad c.wrong size drive shaft d. front/rear sway bar needing adjusted
Bro you trusting those stands was something else
They have locks in them so they can't drop on you
Dirty IAC? My dad's ranger did something similar until I cleaned it out. I know that isn't the same engine, but I have also had a few 5.0's and I feel like that could help. Might look into it.
Frame off restoration? It's a unibody platform with a K member up front, bro. Contact Detriot Speed if you want to do it right and get rid of all of that 1960's upper & lower control arm stuff with those dinosaur ball joints. If you want to get rid of the wheel hop, put a set of ladder bars on the rear end. That'll take care of the axle wrap.
Always been a Chevy person myself however these older mustangs do have an awesome look to them! Going to be a sick build and can’t wait to see it done you never disappoint
It's called "while you're in there syndrome" 🤣They make a special tool for exhaust work it's called a Sawzall 🤣
If I’m not mistaken I believe that the surging the related to the TPS needed to be recalibrated. The RUclips channel BREW2L had a video explaining how to fix this problem. Best of luck with the Mustang.
I highly recommend "Quick-Glo" to keep that chrome looking mint. Seriously the best stuff I have used to protect metal (actually use it on my dirt bike rims and spokes). Also, the new Wesley's is absolutely horrible stuff....Doesn't work for anything. You have the old version which was simply amazing!
Bleach white is great and even better if you let it sit for a couple minutes before scrubbing.
MAN HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW ABOUT BLEACH WHITE?!?😂 I use that stuff all the time on my white ufo plastics
I had a 92’ F-150 5.0L and it had the exact same idol when cold, my dads 91’F-150 5.0L has that same idol thing. I’ve heard it in a number of fords, maybe it’s just me but it might just be a 90’s EFI ford thing 🤷
No other engine sounds like the fuelie 5.0L HO + Flowmasters = sounds of the late 80's early 90's.
Stick to dirtbikes/atv’s man. These old cars are endless moneypits if you’re planning to do this properly. 😅
Looks like a new driveshaft. I would be weary that it could be a China driveshaft. I’ve heard really poor things about China driveshafts. I’m only halfway through the video but you should look into getting the driveshaft balanced professionally
Buy an old car they said… it’ll be fun they said 😂😂😂, I have a 70 chevelle and 68 el Camino, the fun never stops, Alan Whittaker said it best on drag week, you gotta love working on your car to love this sport 😂 btw when it comes time for cylinder heads AFR is the way to go if you can drop the cash for them
The wheel hopping on hard launching, is what knocked the trans mount out, fix the wheel hopping issue.
Hey you should do a collaboration with knicade pavich would we awesome
Dude Mike I’m not even a mustang fan but I can most definitely appreciate some classic muscle. I’m loving this series Mike. Keep up the amazing videos bro. Seriously you are easily one of the best builders in RUclips in my opinion.
Dude Mike I’m not even a mustang fan but I can most definitely appreciate some classic muscle. I’m loving this series Mike. Keep up the amazing videos bro. Seriously you are easily one of the best builders in RUclips in my opinion.
Welcome to the classic full frame off restoration hack job group my friend! My classic truck is the same way when I bought it when I was young and dumb. Every time I worked on it 10 more things would pop up to the point I lost interest and it's been sitting for a few years. Recently I decided to get back into it and have some fun again. Watching your videos reminds me of the blood sweat and bulged disks I've dumped into ours. Just remember, don't have to get it right just get it running and fix as it goes. Keep up the great content!
Sweet! And wow mike wearing a cap facing forward! This has to be the first video that happened! I feel naked without mine haha. You could put some sound det inside for the drone noise. And I had a msd spark box on mine. Helped a lot! A good distributor, cap button and plug wires too. And spark plugs while your at it.
Did you do a base idle reset?
The wheels are perfect. I'm really glad you didn't put big wheels on it. Old iron should never have big wheels. Not a big fan of the car stuff, but happy to see you with a muscle car.
De carbon the throttle body remove the IAC and clean those ports also. ECT are known for going bad.
Love the car! Have you done a mpg test on it. Also if you have the stock suspension set up I would recommend a Shelby drop and possibly tubular front control arms like global west
Wheels and tires look great good choice. Your surge problem is coming from a vacuum leak or IAC valve is wore out that car needs a carburetor on it and that will fix the surging problem. Great video it's a nice change of pace watching you wrench on the old thing I know you and this thing will be pretty much a off the frame restoration by time you are finished with it. Wonder what you will pick up next to bring back to life.
That trans mount needs fixed asap. Motor mounts are probably fine but can’t hurt to check them. It runs rough when cold because the old fords did that. Iac could be a problem or just because it’s swapped and something isn’t right. A carb would fix it. Or a new efi set up.
You can still get bleche white, it's made by black magic and it works just as good in my opinion. I also use bleche white on white plastics. It works amazing to get stains and stubborn grime on white plastics.
Mike! Honestly at at beginning I was upset to loose the crager wheels but once you installed the new wheels I completely understand why you got them ! It looks way better than before, so much more original yet tough. Also you kinda are a perfectionist , i mean that as compliment. I am too myself that’s why I can relate to your ways . It always pisses me off when people say things are right or in great condition then when you look into it you find bullshit like you found with drive shaft /seal and trans mount ! Also have you cleaned or inspected the idle air control valve on the 5.0 ? Sounds like a possibility for your issue.
Went to put new pads in my truck. Figured I better fix the oil leak. 2 months later and I'm still fixing the high pressure oil system and resealing everything. Just can't find the time to do it
The Pro XS I have got louder over time. I wouldn't call it loud but it has more sound broken in. Those band clamps you had, I had my pipes want to migrate out of them. I solved it by both using red rtv to seal and drilling 2 small holes through them and installing 2 stainless pop rivets through the clamps to keep the pipes from separating.
Brillo pads for the lettering worked for me back in the day
Dude your idle surge could be a ton of things IAC? O2 sensors? MAF? get a code reader and look at codes fuel trims etc! Oh not to mention vacuum leaks or EGR!
Just my advice to control wheel hop on launch is either looking into “cal trac” traction bars or old school traction bars, they’ll help control forward leaf springs compression which causes the wheels to hop and be pushed back over and over again as shown when you launched it, obviously new rear shocks would be helpful as well, those two options are the most affordable and bang for buck! Love your vids!
The serge is probably coolant temp its supposed to run rich during first start up to warm the engine first gen EFI on the ford 302 had nothing but problems with the vacuum controls and EFI sensors and good luck tracing it down you really need to find a real old school ford guy to figure some of that stuff out on those year engines. However you really lucked out getting that old of a mustang already retro fitted with a fuel injected 302 and i do love the way they sound and those were and still are some strong motors and this is coming from a GM guy. They offer so many aftermarket EFI systems and intakes it isn't worth trying to fool with factory set up you have. Just get some money together do some research and get a good aftermarket set up for what you want. I love it man and love your videos watching this makes me miss my trans am and every time i watch your videos always makes me go into bike graveyard of a shed and tinker with my bikes. I support what you do because you do what you love and its awesome man keep it up.
Fuel tech 450 or a 550 fuel management will make it easy to tune!.. and if your thinking turbo or supercharge in the future!
okay so since you have a Foxbody motor you have to treat your diagnosis like you have a Foxbody. first thing is that Foxbody are known for having that idle issue. do a base idle reset on it adjust your tps and or replacing it. there's a video by the brew guy on RUclips. in can also be your iac. first thing is first is get 'em ford everything and change that ups and adjust idle and timing while doing a base idle reset. look for vacuum leaks as I do not beilve this is the problem due new motor and it only doing it on cold start. if they are using the stock Foxbody computer look in to that as well, those are notorious for going bad.
The sounds of chambered mufflers at idle with cams is way better but while driving I prefer the flow through mufflers also.
The number of times I have laid on the floor under my car like that... 😂😂😂
Love the magnums. I hate anything bigger than 15 inch wheels on these cars. That wheelhop that you experienced in the previous video is murder on drive train parts. That is likely what broke the trans mount at some point. Traction bars and rear suspension work will cure it.
Get a new Idle air control valve. Very common to go bad on 90s and 2000s ford engines. Ive replaced 4.
Take the mufflers with you to an exhaust shop and have them and new piping put on it’s actually fairly cheap!
The biggest issue I see on this build is that all of the replacement parts are parts store brands i.e. Duralast, Moog, etc. It is the worst of the Chinesium bunch..
Leaking tranny could be solved using jack stands at the rear end only. Wrong parts from the store. Bring in a sample of what your replacing. A car this old has after era parts on it as you have said. 👍✌️
Old muscle cars gotta warm up before they run right.
The vette is still there 17:14 nice upgrade man.. coyote swap in the future?
Need to order a black widow exhaust kit make your life a lot easier. Made your own.
I love the look of this thing! Makes me want to get a classic muscle car. Excited to see the progress. Sounds awesome!
I have a 01 ram 2500 I had a busted trans mount that I drove on for years in bad shape just changed it and it made a pretty significant difference when shifting on a regular cruise you don't really notice it but when it's time to get on it that mount is crucial 💯
Good call on the tire and rim combo. As much as I love the Cragers, I like what you did better.
Check for vacuum leaks for the surge. Could be a hose that has deteriorated
Yeah man, my dad used to have a bottle of that white wall cleaner by the same brand hanging around the garage for years. If I remember correctly, and I know that I do, it worked fantastic. It would bring the white wall letters back so great.
So cool, and with your Dad. Father son bonding time, do a bit of that myself while he's still with us 👍
I have a pretty good feeling the surging is from the cam. Usually when you put a cam in the car likes to idle like that
cars with cams will be more difficult to drive at lower speeds due to the surging from the cam. Also, I would definitely get it tuned.
A full length Michael Sabo engine rebuild of this engine would be the best thing ever
Def needs a good tune, would solve alot of the drivability issues.
Those wheels and tires look AWESOME man
I wanted to change my rear sprocket on my RM 250 I had to grind down the last nut I ended up gouging into the hub, sent the hubs out to get powder coated and I ended up doing the entire bike frame off restoration. I started in May of this year still not done
thats what happens when you run the wrong offset rims . now you have to run some half ass chicken shit wheel spacers . you shouldve got the right rim . thats the only thing half ass on this car . change the wrong upper control arm and get the right rims . i love the black and chrome , she sounds great .
Hey bro I dm u on i.g. I think I know why she runs like that on startup.
Surge is the IAC common on that style of 5.0
in my opinion the cragars looks 10 times better
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Love this content love the car black with the perfect amount of chrome and the wheels were the perfect touch on the car and the borlas sound perfect and idle air control valve is your idle problem it's typical on those year motors or you have a vacume leak sweet ride brother!
Once out I will switch to new the whole thing, instead of switching parts slowly
😢should have bought a Mopar or Chevy ! Less headaches!
Your smoking issue is most likely valve Guide seals tires and wheels are spot on 👍
Not a mustang guy, even a Ford for that matter but that shit is pretty gangster