A Terrorist Attack Stopped by a Five Shot Snub
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- The 1993 Saint James Church Massacre
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I was a cop for almost 27 years. I was a SWAT guy for several years, too, firearms instrctur, yadda-yadda-yadda. Today, most of the time, you'll find a 5-shot j-frame .38 airweight in my pocket whether or not you find a more "tactical" gun on me. The just work.
I have the S&W 442 with a DeSantis pocket holster. Love it!
It goes where you go.
@@LionquestFitness yup!👍
@@Tele-dog - I use the same holster. Perfect combo.
A five shot snubby is better than nothing at all for sure. Like if you’re running to the store in gym shorts. But mission drives the gear and if you’re heading to church or the mall best to grab something with a higher round capacity and better long range accuracy.
Snubby’s are best for that up close and personal work and you better practice a lot with it.
I agree Greg. If you carry a 5-shot revolver, yes, you better know what you are doing. My Dad loved to play golf when he was living. He would always say you know, the more I practice, the luckier I get. That stuck with me when I heard it as a young boy, up until today. Lots of training / practice does increase one's luck with the 5 shot revolver. I also agree that "a" gun beats no gun. Criminals do not generally stay in the fight like a tested, experienced special operations soldier. They tend to run.
Respect to your father.
A part of that has to do with the criminal's character - or lack thereof - I think; as a criminal is a coward... And cowards tend to cower; tend to run.
@@carlosmorris4510absolutely correct.
@carlosmorris sure but dont ever bet on it
IMO the snub revolver is suitable for close range defense and to fight way to a bigger gun.
I have just retired from armed security. The minions of weak unarmed Americans thinking they are safe, due to the armed police, are duping themselves. I sleep with protection next to me. If the balloon goes up, I have gas in my car, food ready to go and fishing equipment packed. I know how to start a fire, build a shelter and live in the dark alone. 99 percent of America doesn't and it really sucks. Greg, thanks for the talk, one young armed young man saved a thousand lives in a Church. It could be you, next Sunday.
Yeah i agree here.
I don’t know where you live but self defense manuals I’ve seen say that staying in your house can be just as good as fleeing into the woods, especially when everyone else is fleeing there too. You miss the crowds trying to escape (whatever) and you can quietly remain in a well defended defined space. If you eventually have to leave, you can do so in your own time.
@@Airirazigyes it all depends on where you live. If you’re in a suburb already you may want to hole up. But if you’re living in a major city those will go ape shit sooner and will be more dangerous.
I’ve carried a snubby for PP over 45yrs. Recently I got a model 327pc in .357. Fits in just about any pocket, no jams, no safety to fuss with, no accidental discharge’s, and it hits like a truck. Just draw it and go to work. Love these wheel guns!!!!
I love my 327 pc. What holster do you use for your pocket?
I use under wood 120 gr 357. A little hot ..do you use anything without so much kick?
@@HerFisherman federal punch 38+p will do plenty of damage. Other direction completely would be wadcutter rounds. Zero kick and a serious hole.
I love the VZ boot grips for the 327PC and switch to the crimson trace laser grip often since I love dry fire practice in the house using a laser. It makes it too big to pocket carry but appendix with Houston holster is a breeze.
I also had the hammer bobbed leaving a little polished nub so it doesn’t catch on pocket.
@@HerFisherman I also had the hammer bobbed leaving a little polished nub so it doesn’t catch on pocket.
St James church massacre, Kenilworth Cape Town. 1993. The APLA members, cowards, expected a soft target. Charles is still a strong advocate for being armed.
Peace from South Africa.
I've never supported segregation, but i've never supported terrorism too.
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 Well i hope you weren't a supporter of Nelson Mandela 😂a convicted terrorist and responsible for multiple deaths from at least 2 bombs going of in shopping centres !
It is not the tool. It is the heart and mind that is the weapon.
How about this? The heart and the mind are the engines that provide the will to use the tool and the learned discipline to use the tool more efficiently and effectively. The tool is the enhancement of these things and the better the tool for the job, the better the outcome may be. All tools are not the same and all tools are certainly not created equal.
No the tool matters a lot, don't be fooled. The reality is this man got very lucky.
I had the privilege of attending a talk by, and meeting Charl van Wyk in June. My brother and sister-in-law are members of St. James and I have attended services there with them. Thank God they were not there that evening. Charl is a missionary and admitted to not being a "gun guy". His bravery undoubtedly saved many lives. With the necessary training and sufficient motivation, a licence to obtain a handgun for self defence is obtainable and comes with automatic concealed carry.
I remember a few years ago, an off duty female NYPD officer, was getting her hair done at a salon. Two suspects held up the place and she made multiple hits on the suspects with her five shot snubby.
I think I caught a piece of Alex Jones interviewing this guy that stopped the attack with his revolver years ago! Was a very interesting interview. Completely insane hearing him describe using his revolver to stop the attack, thinking it was futile but managing to make the bad guys go away!
My friend was playing pool in the basement of a restaurant alone with a random guy and he got real grapey and pushed her against the wall and she reached down and pulled out her snubby and put it to his chin and he backed off real quick. 😂😂
I vaguely remembered this scenario, Greg. There's definitely a lot to learn from this one. On a completely unrelated note, today I drove over to Uncle Lee's in Greenville, Kentucky. I finally had an opportunity to meet Hickok45. A friend and I were fortunate enough to meet Paul Harrell last year. As expected, old Hickok45 , like Paul, was a class act. Both were very friendly and personble with everyone on hand. They're definitely two of YT's biggest 2A ambassadors. I can also say the same for you, Mixup98, and many others. In the future, I'd consider it an honor to meet more of you. Thanks for your lessons and your attention to the comment section, my friend.
I've always liked and appreciated Paul, and I still watch and enjoy Hickok as well. Sunday mornings I like to listen to Hickok in the background while I workout. Mixup98 is another favorite. I've watched his snub video where he showed the Lee Harvey Oswald assassination by Jack Ruby dozens of times. In fact, add HR Funk to the list, and those would be my four favorite gun channels.
Hi Tyler 😊.
How lucky are you. Where I live the only possible weapon you can have, (because it approved 😮, is a handbag and I don't carry one 😂) .
The best defence we have is our intelligence. ( and a bandanna 😊... sorry I couldn't help myself 😅)
Hickok is a class act. I've met him twice before, and I'll be going to his meet & greet in Lexington next Saturday. I would very much like to also meet Paul Harrell, Mr. Lionquest, or some of the other people from RUclips that I watch and respect.
@LionquestFitness I could see you, Mixup98, and Hickok45 doing a video together. All of you have that down-to-earth personality, and the marksmanship goes without saying. As for you and Harrell, both of you have kept yourselves in excellent shape. I think Paul is in his late 50s, and you're in your early 60's. The two of you are the premiere Charles Atlas guntubers. On a other note, I need to watch more HR Funk. It's been awhile. So many gun channels, so little time.
@lesgillard985 You definitely don't strike me as the handbag type. 😆 Believe me, my friend. I wish I could spread some of that 2nd Amendment around in Australia.
Terrorists take advantage of soft targets.
Especially gun-free zones.
So, the "moral" is: Don't be one.
Thanks for sharing. I carry a 5 shot 38 Special snub nose revolver. I'm not a dummy about guns. I'm retired US Army Special Forces. I would rather have five reliable shots than a high capacity automatic with a stove pipe jam.
It really helps that terrorists are cowards, which goes a long way to explain their tactics. So sometimes just a modicum of a defense helps. Mordechai Rachamim, an Israeli Sky Marshall, fought off four PLO types in 1969 armed with AK-47s and explosives with a .22lr Beretta model 70 “Jaguar” pistol. He killed one and held off the rest til Swiss Police apprehended all of them. (Mordechai Rachamim acted in a covert role). He was also a veteran of the elite Sayert Matkal commando unit. But it was a near thing and the average person just winging it risks a lot.
I was gonna bring that up but you beat me to it, absolutely badass and fearless to go after a bunch of guys with a gun like that.
My wife carried one for years. I have no problem with carrying one. I have already been proved. I go to the threat, not run from it. Dear old dad carried a one-shot pen-gun in the Middle East back in 1964. I was born, raised, educated, and worked outside of the United States, part of an interesting family with parents that kept you safe while thousands of miles away. Dad is a legend. All of his sons are now in our late 60's to late 70's, lived lives of adventure and service. Any weapon will do. Even your hands when you don't have one. I'm more comfortable with my 1911A1 in 45ACP, 7+1, but will be as comfortable with a small 38 Special revolver. Assailants, thugs and terrorists don't expect most people to fight back to attack. Surprise them. With whatever you have. Sic Semper Tyranus
Interesting. I have a similar philosophy. It's not just the gun.
@LionquestFitness when three adult men set out to beat the crap out of me, blocking the gate to my compound (Bangkok, circa 1969), I picked up about an 8 foot two x four. They scattered. One of many incidents that did not have to end in violence.
@LionquestFitness it's how you live your life. Nothing is safe. As my recently departed wife told my partner at work decades ago: "In anyone comes in the house they had better hope David has a gun or he will hurt them." I could be a bit rough if need be. Sic Semper Tyranus
There is also a tendency in recent years for these "mass shooters" to shoot themselves almost immediately when police or civilians return fire and the shooter believes "the walls are closing in on him". Any gun is capable of making a bad guy panic if he doesn't plan on living through the event.
BTW- What a crazy world we live in these days where we have to think of such things.
Unfortunately I believe it will get even worse in the next few years. In one of the interviews with Charl Van Wyk, who has been a missionary for many decades, he spoke about the dangers of Marxist indoctrination of the disaffected young and how it made violence seem a noble cause. We're seeing this same thing happening now in our own country.
Well, they sure didn't give the shooter that was shooting all around Trump a chance to shoot himself! I guess they wanted to make sure he didn't talk!
@@LionquestFitness Yes, and it's not only our young people but the 20 million unvetted illegal aliens who have been allowed to flood into America, many of whom came from dictatorships, religious theocracies, and communist regimes, and already align themselves with the Marxists politically. It does not bode well. Be safe and well brother.
@@LionquestFitness It seems our RUclips overlords did not approve of my prior wording. Let me try again. Not only our young people but the 10 to 20 million new arrivals from all over the world who left dictatorships, religious theocracies, and communist regimes. Many of these newcomers are already aligning themselves with the Marxists. It does not bode well.
@LionquestFitness Greg, I'm convinced we are in the end of days God told us of in His word. Our rapture will, in fact, be a Devine rescue mission. Look up brother our home going is close! God bless, Rob
Thanks again Greg. Great story. Three brave young men.
I'm from RSA and old school, but I can confirm, if you pull a gun, the badguys run....
I'm from Central Florida and I can confirm bad guys don't always run after guns have been pulled. In fact, I can confirm that they purposely run into fire after a gun is drawn.
@robwilson3749 I too reside in (coastal) Central Florida. I was a cop for 28 years in South Florida. I've seen it go both ways, running away or sticking around, fight or flight. Often, the first-timers are the ones smart enough to disengage, whereas the pros are the ones to go out in a blaze of glory. Of course YMMV.
Obviously a believer in Rule #1 of participating in a gunfight!
Netso Boet!
I'm telling you Bru ❤
The wicked shall flee though no man pursuith… but the righteous shall stand bold as a lion!
It's not the steel in your hand, it's the righthous steel in your heart !!!
Hi. In all my years, with all the different "shhot'em-up-bang-bangs" that have come across my path, it is the five shot snubbie, that remains. As a kid in the '50's, Mattel, thee private eye on TV started the itch. In '72, outside of Bangkok, I noticed, asked, and learned what I could from an USAFOSI fellow about snubbies. They are that unique piece of art that will always find its way to someone's EDC.
I'm old school and started my Law Enforcement career in the early 80's and carried a revolver. My Dad was a Street Cop also, and had carried revolvers. Even though I retired with a Glock, I still have a CCW permit and carry a couple of J Frame Revolvers most times. Especially this time of year in the heat. One in the waistband under my shirt and a New York Reload in my pocket in a pocket holster.
I love your Nickel J Frame by the way, with the Tyler T-Grip. Still one of my favorite set ups.
Sounds like our careers mirrored each other, I also started in the 1980’s went 33 years as a street cop and range master, my step dad was a cop too. I carry a lot now that I’m older and retired, I always have a high capacity car gun too. Good luck brotha.
Ed Lovette's book "The Snubby Revolver" is a good text for anyone interested on this subject.
I would add required reading! Long time revolver shooter, Ed is excellent, worked for the agency.
Thanks for the reminder Greg.. i read Charl's book years ago, and its a scary story. It reminds me to not only carry my snub everytime i go out, but to throw a quick strip with extra rounds for worst case scenario.
The thing about a snub revolver is that it goes places other guns might not go. A gun is better than no gun.
thank you, greg. i had never heard of that. good points that a gun is better than none and that some predators will retreat when met with lethal resistance.
I'm a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment allows you to carry what firearm you wish. On the other hand, we live in a society where violence is not acceptable for hard working honest folks, so discreet carry of a less intimidating firearm seems less objectionable should you actually have to defend yourself.
I am a retired LEO and my duty gun was a Glock 21. The gun I carry almost always and have in one form or another is a Smith & Wesson J frame and for a while I carried a Ruger SP-101 with the shortest barrel length. The reason, I can drop it in a pocket holster and no one is the wiser that I have it at all. I've owned a couple Model 36 revolvers over the years and for a while I carried a Model 649. These days I carry a blued Model 36 and don't feel at all outclassed when I have that gun on me.
That SP-101 is a heavy little revolver
Boa noite meu amigo. Hoje em dia quando dizemos que um bom e velho revólver pode nos tirar de problemas, pode salvar nossas vidas, os mais jovens entendem que estamos dizendo que são melhores que semi automáticas. Esse caso que o Sr comenta no vídeo é famoso e eu ainda acrescento ser a mão de Deus trabalhando junto com as pessoas na igreja. Aqui no Brasil,uma senhora com mais de 80 anos, debilitada, tinha que usar um andador para se locomover, teve sua casa invadida por um ladrão, e ela conseguiu ir até o quarto, pegar um revólver calibre 32, que era de seu falecido marido, estava guardado a mais de 20 anos no guarda roupa,e atingiu o bandido duas vezes, esse , não sobreviveu. Como sempre dizemos aqui, o importante é se armar e ter mentalidade de sobrevivência, Deus abençoe o Sr,sua família e as Américas 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲. Obrigado pelo video. 🙏🏻
A mão de Deus Todo-Poderoso, com certeza. Minha esposa e eu lutamos contra as lágrimas quando ouvimos a história dos dois jovens que sacrificaram suas próprias vidas. Deus te abençoe, meu amigo.
¿Qué piensas del Taurus 605 en 357 magnum? tengo uno que llevo de bolsillo aquí en los Estados Unidos.
@@Revolverguy38 I'd be interested in what Marcio has to say about the 605.
@@LionquestFitness 🙏🏻
@@Revolverguy38
Buenos días aquí desde Brasil amigo. ¿Su pregunta sobre el 605 es sobre calidad versus precio? Lamentablemente no tengo este revólver, pero a muchos brasileños les encanta. El señor Grag tiene uno en uso Todos los días veo que muchos americanos también lo usan en RUclips, creo que en Estados Unidos es muy accesible.
I carry my 605 and or one of my j frame smiths everyday as a bug. Thanks for sharing greg 🇺🇸
I remember French operators doing work retaking an airplane with the J in the 70s. It's not the firearm but tactics and violence of action.
Yeah, the French used M73s for that, explicitly. They trained on the way over and then executed when they arrived. Completely balls to the wall badass.
They used the Maneurhin revolvers. Not J frames
I was at a seminar with some higher ups from the British Constabulary back in the eighties. They asserted that a trained group of martial artists could easily hijack a plane. 911 made that somewhat prophetic.
@@ArmeroPR this was before that, and the shooter was in civilian dress as per an air Marshall.
@@Skaramine thanks for the clarification!
👍 “When the prey is armed, the predator goes hungry”. Thanks for that story. We need more of these reminders, stories, about the positive and life saving uses of personal and responsible firearm usage. The press seems to downplay and even dismiss the positive and responsible use (stories) of firearms and sensationalizes the gang and nut job stories.
Thanks again.
Very good point.
Hi Greg... what a dayjvew... I have listened to the same incident recounted by Dr Peter Hammond of Front Line Fellowship South Africa.
A lot of other similar events have happened world wide since then.
There is an Old saying *you can only fight with heat you got* , in this case 5 rounds and other people's actions saved a lot more people's lives, than those murdered by those 4 cowards.
The best gun for any violent situation is the one you can hit your target with. Bullet placement, not magazine capacity makes all of the difference...
Thanks for sharing. I agree. One thing I would add, you better know what you are doing if you carry a weapon. We need more RESPONSIBILE men and women with weapons, not just more weapons.
Absolutely.
I remember a lesson from martial arts that applies here: fight the man, not the weapon. The warrior spirit is more important than the gear.
I remember hearing about this incident.the guy with the 5 shot also had the element of surprise which works very well.
in a nation obsessed with capacity, muzzle velocity, range, the practicality and usefulness of a weapon like this gets overlooked. It's all about how well you can use it in a self-defense situation, and how well you keep your wits about you, not necessarily having the biggest , baddest gun....
Amen.
Hadn’t heard this story before - thanks for taking the time to share.
Sir.. I got my first snubby 38 cause you. Which it was a Rock Island. I know you don’t have that gun anymore but it made me a snubby guy.
I'm getting that same Rock Island snub nose next week!
I went on gunbroker and won a 1962 Model 36, just picked it up Friday. Super sweet, super smooth, super cheap.
I used to carry .357 magnum loads in my Taurus 605. My accuracy was acceptable. I now carry Underwood 38 LSWCHP +P. My accuracy is much better and follow up shots faster.
"Speed is fine, but accuracy is final." ~Bill Jordan ~
Another of yours saved to my snub Playlist, thank you sir!
👍👍Thanks Greg, a lot of bravery there.The bad guys are rarely looking for a fight.Great example.
I think I remember reading about this in an account reported by Larry Pratt with GOA. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks Greg.👍🇺🇸
Greg, it just emphasizes the concept of your motto which if I remember right is “always be prepared for the unexpected” and in this case illustrates that your EDC for the day might have been around 1 purpose or mission, but be ready to improvise to meet the new situational threat. Or better yet ask yourself what other situations I might I be in carrying a 5 shot snub that normally I would have carried my higher capacity semi-auto like a Glock 19 and how will I adapt or act to deal with it. As always Thanks sir!
I carry my J frame with 38 special wadcutters. Low recoil for first and second shot accuracy. More than enough gun in 99 percent situations. You are not policing and are not trained or equipped for gun battles. As a retired lawyer I also think of how a small revolver looks to a jury versus a Black Glock with 15 rounds and a prosecutor remarking that it’s the same gun local police carry . Be a Rambo and you may go to jail or may get sued by the relatives of the bad guy . Because in today’s corrupt culture the bad guys are good and the good guys are evil .
Thank you for that comment. In the past when I brought the subject up of how a firearm would look to a jury, I was often discredited and ridiculed.
Well said.
Carlita!!! Always great to see her. I have always tried to explain to folks that revolvers are more than viable option the key is training and practice, Time spent behind it honing those skills, not just shooting but drawing understanding every aspect of your weapon
Then watch in your videos for several years. I really learn a lot, thank you.
I been carrying a SW M49 for over 45 years in a ankle holster with two speed loaders.I use it as a back up also.I have access to many high capacity autos but i prefer this gun
It goes where you go.
Don’t want to get too political, but I wrote a response yesterday on a political thread , telling Republicans to do something proactive about gun rights . One of the things I stated was that they should pass a family defense and sporting firearms bill. This would allow the nationwide carry of any revolver or semiauto holding 10 rounds or less, and the possession of any semiauto pistol regardless of standard magazine e capacity I the home, at the range and while traveling as long as unloaded. It would allow for the possession in your vehicle if any 22 caliber rifle with any capacity magazine, any shotgun with a tube magazine , any lever action, bolt action or pump rifle. With no restrictions on mag capacity. This avoids the so called Assault Weapons restrictions , and puts the antis back on their heels. I would go anywhere with a revolver, a lever rifle in pistol caliber and a pump shotgun and fear no one.
@@Desperado3248 That is not a bad plan.
I've shared this video to my FB page.
Thanks Mark!
A S&W 38 snub - 5 shot , has been EDC for over 30 years. It will still do plenty of damage at zero - sixty feet . Hitting a 4 inch diameter target , is still quite doable. 38 handloads have more "stomp" than 9mm , in my experience . Experience conquers theory .
Thanks for your video.
Thank you Greg. Never heard about this sad story but completely agree.
Good info.
One minute & five seconds into the video, I knew you were speaking about Charl Van Wyk & how he drove off the terrorists who committed the St. James Church massacre in Kenilworth, SA.
I spent an amount of time in Africa but I wasn't too familiar w this being still in high school. I very vaguely may have read about it in a magazine with brief descriptions of various attacks. A Vektor 92ish pistols is one of my dream pistols
You've certainly had an adventurous and varied life Daniel!
@@LionquestFitness squeezing in what I can used to be more adventurous
A very informative video. And reinforces the effectiveness of a good guy with a gun.
Sunday Blessings to all. In general it's easier to avoid a bad situation than it is to get out one but in the rare occasion when avoidance isnt possible it pays to be skilled. A consistent investment of a mere few minutes a week safely handling, checking, maintaining and dry practicing with your revolver will add up. We can only perform well what we practice so plan accordingly. Notice when Greg demonstrates shooting it usually involves becoming aware of, recognizing and addressing a defense situation in a timely manner. This is sometimes coupled with defensive hand movement and stepping off the X, or simply put, moving out of the way of the attack followed by accurate fire if the situation dictates it. Study, prepare and train like the modern gunfighters but please do so safely and in the right spirit. Godspeed and thanks to Greg for his quality work on this channel and to those who enjoy and share here. Godspeed.
Thank you my friend.
@@LionquestFitness You bet. And be well.
Good evening Greg. Enjoy the video my friend. There are a lot of heroic people in this, United States of America, that will still give their life for others 👍👍👍👍👍
@@TheWalkWithAl Amen to that.
I met Charl van Wyk many years ago, by coincidence - our sons were on the same soccer team. Great guy, great weapon, great story and great life lesson!
Thanks for all you Do Greg Blessings from Kentucky
Thank you for this well-put together presentation. Hearing about the two teenagers who heroically put themselves in harm’s way to save countless others got me teary-eyed. This was a tragedy that should have never happened, but a locked door, that revolver, and the three brave individuals made a huge difference.
@@goldengod5915 A good point about the locked door.
Gotta love that T grip
That one is actually for a round butt K frame, but it fit the J frame.
FYI from the first year of production, Chief Specials were proof tested with 38/44 ammo and none failed. The o Lt jframe Chief I still have out of 4, since I am a Colt guy, is a 60-7 , beefed up frame, heattreated , wider sights, plus p rated . Was initially a run for NYPD that became standard. It handles Buffalo Bore plus p 158 lhp, gas checked that Chrony at 1030fps. If you can’t stop someone with that, grab a 12 gauge shotgun
THANK YOU for this Greg. I just saw one of the video's about this tragedy.
Great history lesson Greg. And yes, having a gun is better than not having one when trouble arrives. I have been carrying a snub nose 38spl for over 30 years. Never feel underarmed. Training and practice are the keys.
I agree 100%. When constitutional carry was passed in my state I specifically purchased a Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield because I knew it was small and lightweight enough that I’d have no excuse not to carry it. It’s small enough that I even carry it in a pocket holster. NO LAZY DAYS
Timely video with great advice about tactical thinking and preparation. In this modern era of possible terrorist acts anywhere, one of my concerns about having a revolver in "double-action-only" is that DAO negates the MAJOR advantages of a revolver over any auto pistol. The advantages being a revolver's solidly anchored barrel provides superb accuracy at long handgun range, and the revovler's single action mode provides the ability to use that long handgun range with sniper-like precision.
I have that model-Interarms Rossi. Wonderful weapon! Its fun to practice!
Good video, Greg. I like the 5 shot Charter Arms Undercover and Detective snubbies. I also like the two snubbies that you let go of, the Taurus 357MAG poly protector and the 6 shot Armscor/ Rock Island M206. All you have to do with snubbies is practice with them. You should look into the 4 inch M200 38SPL revolver.
Thank You
_"Don't Snub the Snubbie revolver"_ = a number of younger people like to dislike the snub nose revolver, but it's *5 or 6 for sure* and enough to fight your way to a dead attacker's weapon, that the snubbie took out, to use against their evil intents in this Fallen World.
1. You have to reach the attacker's weapon first. 2. You don't know if the captured weapon works. 3. Yes, this world has already fallen.
Thank you for sharing this.
Charl has written a book entitled "Shooting Back."
Great story Greg! I have never heard of that incident. Thanks for sharing. You are so right about a gun is better than no gun! Carry on brother!
What are your thoughts about revolvers that do not have exposed hammers . I notice that most of the revolvers that you have are exposed hammers .
In a self-defense situation you will be shooting double action; a spur (thumb cock) on a hammer is unnecessary and actually a liability because it can snag on the draw. If you carry a revolver, a bobbed hammer or enclosed hammer are good choices.
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Agreed that for most people an enclosed or bobbed hammer is the way to go but it's also a bit about how you train. My first will likely be DA and I practice hitting like that, but my default is SA as I'm more accurate that way and it makes the best of the 5 or 6 I've got. My thumb goes over the hammer in a pocket-draw even if there is no hammer because I've done it that way my entire life. Same for weak-hand cocking which I do. When you only have 5 you better not miss; DA up close and SA when I can. Find your best way, train that way, and you'll do well that way.
the average number of shots fired in self defense is 3..
Probable, but little statistical data showing that.
It's not the weapon, it's the hand that wields it that makes a difference.
I've been in LE for 29 years and I've carried my S&W 640 .38 spl consistently during this time. As a matter of fact, it's currently resting in a DeSantis IWB holster right now. I carry appendix and hardly notice that I have it in my waistband. I can wear a t-shirt, untucked and nobody knows that I'm even carrying. My "big" guns consist of either a S&W model 13 or Springfield 1911, but I've never felt that I was "under-gunned" with my 640.
Last year I added a S&W 442 with +p ammo to my every day carry load out. I do NOT feel under gunned with it. I shoot it every time I hit the range.
I sincerely hope nothing like that happens to me, especially @ my age, b/c all I ever have w/me is a J Frame. Your story outlines men who have real courage. Thanks for another good video.
Thank you my friend.
Amazing story
Back in the 70's and 80's I carried a Colt Trooper Mark 3 4inch 357 6 shot on duty plain clothes or off duty I carried 2 guns a S&W model 66 2 inch 357 6 shot or a Browning DBA 45 auto 7 shot today I carry a S&W model 642 38 2 inch 5 shot and yes I believe it is better to be able to protect yourself and not need to than needing to protect yourself and have no tools to do so !!!
Thanks for this story.
Well, they say that on average there are 3 shots fired in a gun fight. So, you got 2 extra left. Shot placement helps.
Amen to that.
I agree. I have guns with more capacity, but better to have 5 than none. I have never felt helpless with a five shot revolver. I just know it will work!
Wow!!,,,,, what a story,,,,, 😮,,,,, much to learn from this,,, and respect,,,,,
Great tale!
I used to carry a Single Action Colt as my EDC. I now carry a 1911 with an extra mag or 2. We are living in hard times. Just enough may not be.
I’m 55 I’ve been carrying a revolver my whole life. My papow carried one and he taught me. He was my dad. I’m an expert with mine. Also, my 1911-45, 9 mm, 40 cal, 357 revolver, 44 Dirty Harry magnum revolver. And my cc 38 38 ruger dbl action lcr oh i forgot my 22 revolver and idk how many semi i have. All I want now is a semi 12g
This show the importants of tactics. He got behind the 2 BGs. After the one ran out he crawled & the BG didn't expect that!
I remember my father used to carry his 1911 colt to church every Sundays.
I carry the S&W 638 ("+P" rated Airweight) as my EDC w/2 speed-strips , and carried one of it's earlier variants (models 38, 49, 649) on & off duty for over 25 years. I had to qualify 3x a year, and never felt under-gunned.
I agree 100 % and if you have 4 other speed loaders full of ammo then you have yourself 25 rounds that's like having a semi-auto and you get to enjoy carrying your revolver over a semi-auto pistol !!!
That's not like a semi auto at all.
Just stop it already. Please? I like and use snub revolvers too from time to time but let's not compare apples to oranges and proclaim they're the same thing because they're both fruit. Please just stop it.
@@MrNexor-cj8gs I get it, just excuse the enthusiasm. Some people, myself included, love revolvers.
@@robwilson3749 Hi Rob, you're right. Different tools for different tasks. Jeff was just being a bit exuberant. I think his point was you can carry extra ammo, but obviously reloading will be slower.
Jerry Miculek has entered the chat 😃
I like that you are a student of history. Appreciate the post.
I live in Cape Town and remember that as if it was yesterday. I met a guy years later who was in that service.
I am a South African,served in the armed forces 80/81,sad story,the St James massacre! I now recall the courageous revolver hero! I have been carrying a.32 snubbie with me for almost 40 years,has never been fired in anger.Have now aquired 2× .38 specials snubbies for the wife and myself,and for good measure a.22 revolver 9- shooter to hone my my markmanship at more affordable ammo cost! A semi auto is pricey to begin with,and they tend to have malcunctions,revolvers are reliable and simpler to use in high stress situations.
But that remark is quite correct,panic shooting is ill advised if you have only 5 rounds, a more dìsiplined approuch is needed!
Small Revolvers are great for Deep Concealment. the 5 shots you have hidden in your pocket is better then the 30 rounds at home in your Nightstand.
They have their limitations of course and there are better choices if the state you live in doesn't limit you.
Greg you seem to have a large collection of Snubbies so which one do you carry most often? and what do you like about it compared to others in your collection?
Hmmm, good question. It reminds me of the Julio Iglesias song about all the girls I used to know. It depends on the task at hand. I tend to always go back to a Taurus 605 for a combination of versatility, shootability, and concealability.
My 5 shot snub is Guaranteed strong firepower for 20-40 ft range. It's a shield not a weapon. I always take it if I KNOW I'm heading into a risky area. Otherwise i just carry my LCP pocket pistol. I have a full size Glock and a 4" .357 but I never go into obvious battle that I need THAT firepower and carrying extra clips and ammo...lol
My EDC is a Colt King Cobra carry model.