My adventures with ToolkitRC M6D. After a few uses, the charger began to reset if it moved the power plug. After a month of asking the seller on AliExp ... for a service manual (I had to send them some symptom videos), I got the answer - "Apologize again for any inconvenience caused.". I decided to open this charger myself (yes - you have to unstick the screen to get to the screws). I've found there were many of cold joints/weak joints on the motherboard - including the fan plug that stopped working too. I corrected all of them (you must have a strong soldering iron) and the charger now works. If the manufacturer does not improve the production process, I warn you before buying this charger, because the quality seems to be very random (which is a pity, because its functions suit me).
I’ve been handling a lot of ToolKit products lately and my experience is similar. I’ve opened them up and their QC looks terrible on several products. I am not loosing hope in ToolKit yet, but would encourage everyone to wait until 2022 to consider purchasing ToolKit products, or until confirmation of better QC 🤙
Great review.The only one m6d review that shows the accuracy and compare with other chargers and multimeter. My M8 is very bad balancer, and it is impossible to calibrate to get good cell balance
That's interesting, I've got an M8 and it does a much better job at balancing than both of my ISDT Q6 do.. I do remember hearing some complaints about factory calibration though on some units..
I know this is an old video, but do you remember when you did the full load test if the current fluctuated at all? I recently bought one and it will not hold steady power. I set any battery to charge on any port. Set it to 15a and it will bounce between 6 and 15 I actually sent it back because it seems like a faulty unit. But I was wondering if they did that on purpose to manage heat. Haven't seen anyone else run one at full power. All the other videos show them running at 1-2 amps. I would notice the power dump after about 30 seconds, then it would continue throughout the charge cycle.
Truthfully I ended up having a few issues with my Tollkit chargers. Not the M6D specifically but almost every other model. I have seen wild current fluctuations before and sending it back was a good call. I’m hoping toolkit has gotten better in the past couple of years. Possibly on newer models 🤙
Can you do plus one more test ? Just to comprovate accuracy: finish charge on m6d, measure cells on isdt / icharge / multimeter and put it back on m6d to confirm isdt/icharge/multimeter measured value ? When I measure my cnhl charged on ISDT Q6 pro, every cells stay just near to 4.20 (4.195 ~4.199).
I will try to test it again as soon as I can. My boss was impressed with the charger he wanted to play with it. So I gave him mine for now and we haven’t gotten a new shipment yet 😂 Thanks for the comments and I will definitely do my best to get a reply to this as soon as I can
Fair point, but the M6D has exactly 10X more power and twice as many channels as the TB-6B, plus it costs less. It may be a great charger if you ever need more power! You'll just have to spring for some accessories if that day ever comes.
@@ChaddRainsFPV I'm a nitro guy so my charging needs are more towards 'affordable and won't set my house on fire' than 'gotta fast-charge an entire backpack full of 6s packs'. Mostly I'm charging Li-FE packs for running my receivers, glow driver nickel cells, I have a couple of 2s7400 hardpacks for my starter.
If you had to put a rating or scale the isdt q6 or Q8 against , this one you reviewed and against the any other you may have ? What would that scale look like ? I have the isdt nano q6 and it’s awesome for its size and capabilities yet can only. Discharge 1A max and output 5/8amps per cell if I’m not wrong which for charging is fine , but have you tested that power supply mode for this one you reviewed? Goes all the way to 15A?
The M6D is a step above in utility compared to a q6 and q8 but only time till tell for longevity. I have a q6 still running strong after 4 years of regular use. The power supply functions as it should (though I didn’t do extensive testing) and the discharge rating for all of these pocket sized chargers will not be good. Between 5-10w on average. Isdt makes a good discharge bank called the fd-200. Hope this helps 🤙
@@ChaddRainsFPV on this charger you get W/h reading on the what ever is the input source right ? This would go 10-12wAtts discharge what about the battery to battery discharge feature ? Will the battery being discharge display the mah capacity and million ohms IR?
@@charlschuck6 - The pack being discharged (in any circumstance so long as it is connected to the output) will display the capacity that has been drawn. During the discharge, IR is also available, yes.
The resistance is not 1 digit, it's 3 digits ! Resistance is measured in Ohm but it displays milliohm, 1000 milliohm is 1 ohm Then later on you say it's 7000 volts off, not sure what you mean by that I suppose you missed that there is a COMMA, 25.274V is not 25 thousand volt, it's 25 volt.
Hey Ha Ka, thanks for watching so closely. It’s good when your work is detailed closely. In regards to the ‘digit’ I mentioned, I realize the charger can measure above 9 mOhms (it even shows in my video a double digit reading on the 3S pack on channel 2), I meant it won’t do any readings smaller than 1mOhm or a fraction of a mOhm. Say you’re charging a 10Ah pack. I would expect it to have an iR of around 0.5 mOhms. I don’t think the charger is capable of displaying that or it would have given a digit after a decimal place with my other packs. As for “7000 volts off”, I actually say “7 thousandths of a volt off”. Which is mathematically accurate 🤙
@@ChaddRainsFPV Hi, Glad you didn't take it negative. To explain: 1 milliohm is an incredible tiny resistance, a 6S lipo with 10 milliohm internal resistance can deliver 2500 amps, that's more than 60 kilowatt; enough to power a resi dential building also enough to damage the lipo within a fraction of a second when shorted of course. Meassuring tenth of a milliohm is useless, the cables have way more resistance than that so a few millimeter more or less cable or a bit dust on your connector can cause such changes you'd read different resistance all the time because any test changes the temperature of the connection and thus the resistance. So if you find that sort of precision in a tool that costs less than 10 grand it's not a sign of quality, it's lack of quality. When it comes to voltage it's the same thing. I'm not a native speaker so I misheard you. 1/7000 volt is a tenth of a millivolt. All the errors from above come in and make that useless. Only highest quality tools can measure such voltages and that needs laboratory equipment and setup. Even talking to the cable will have an influence of that magnitude in voltage. So if any charger reports 1/100 of a volt difference you can ignore that digit because it's by far not precise enough. 1/10th of a volt is about the accuracy you can get and anything more precise than that is washed away by entropy.
Ha Ka - Thanks for the reply. Your internal resistance understanding is good, but possibly not that good when it comes to LiPo batteries. There is a huge difference in performance between a cell that has an internal resistance of say 1.5mOhms (common from a high quality 5 Ah LiPo cell) vs one that has an internal resistance of 9mOhms (common from a 1300mah cell). The voltage sag alone would be very noticeable under the normal load of an rc aircraft. As for the voltage, it was 7/1000 (spoken as ‘seven thousandths) of a volt that was said in the video. Which is what my icharger x6 is capable of displaying. I do say in the video that that is a very small amount of energy and I consider the charger had done a good job of balancing.
Wish I saw this helpful video before I bought the M6D because now that I have it, I find it has no power supply and I cant actually use it. Its not really a home charger but more of a field charger by the looks.
My charger indicate battery with cells instead of wattage like urs. Did u change the anything in the settings? Also how to turn off the charger instead of close it off the switch of the power supply? Thanks
I’m almost positive you can switch to wattage in the back settings menu or you can just scroll a bit more to see wattage. As for turning off the charger, the only way is to power down your PSU or unplug the charger.
The Hota D6 plus looks pretty nice actually. But it’s not going in your pocket like the M6D, it’s going to stay on the bench. And if it’s staying on the bench, why not have the big brick of a PSU? Both setups total out to about the same price (within ~$5) and the M6D is a good amount more powerful.
I am not sure why you would need sync mode to charge at 25 amps, both channels are rated to 30 amps each. In sync mode, you could charge at 50 amps. You can access sync mode with any 12v supply greater than ~12w. So basically any would work 🤙
@@maagneticc6470 Sorry, I was looking at the wrong video. I did a video on the new DX8 just a bit ago, thought this comment was on that. Same is applicable for power supply though. A 12v power supply at 575w is actually limited on the M6D, which can only draw 360w from a 12v source; but that’s more than enough to do 25 amps on 1s,2s and 3S batteries and can even do 25 amps on 4s batteries for a little while (it will trickle down to about 22 amps by the time the battery reaches ~4v per cell. Hope this helps 🤙
@@maagneticc6470 it’s is. The M6D does 15 amps per channel and the other charger I reviewed does 30 (the DX8). Make sure to get the M6D from a reputable retailer; ToolKit RC has had QC issues as of late.
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My adventures with ToolkitRC M6D. After a few uses, the charger began to reset if it moved the power plug. After a month of asking the seller on AliExp ... for a service manual (I had to send them some symptom videos), I got the answer - "Apologize again for any inconvenience caused.". I decided to open this charger myself (yes - you have to unstick the screen to get to the screws). I've found there were many of cold joints/weak joints on the motherboard - including the fan plug that stopped working too. I corrected all of them (you must have a strong soldering iron) and the charger now works. If the manufacturer does not improve the production process, I warn you before buying this charger, because the quality seems to be very random (which is a pity, because its functions suit me).
I’ve been handling a lot of ToolKit products lately and my experience is similar. I’ve opened them up and their QC looks terrible on several products. I am not loosing hope in ToolKit yet, but would encourage everyone to wait until 2022 to consider purchasing ToolKit products, or until confirmation of better QC 🤙
Great review.The only one m6d review that shows the accuracy and compare with other chargers and multimeter. My M8 is very bad balancer, and it is impossible to calibrate to get good cell balance
That's interesting, I've got an M8 and it does a much better job at balancing than both of my ISDT Q6 do.. I do remember hearing some complaints about factory calibration though on some units..
@@tenten8401 I try to callibrate my m8 lot of times, but is impossible. Some of cells always stay out of 4.2v. (4.18 ... 4.22) at end os charging
I know this is an old video, but do you remember when you did the full load test if the current fluctuated at all? I recently bought one and it will not hold steady power. I set any battery to charge on any port. Set it to 15a and it will bounce between 6 and 15 I actually sent it back because it seems like a faulty unit. But I was wondering if they did that on purpose to manage heat. Haven't seen anyone else run one at full power. All the other videos show them running at 1-2 amps. I would notice the power dump after about 30 seconds, then it would continue throughout the charge cycle.
Truthfully I ended up having a few issues with my Tollkit chargers. Not the M6D specifically but almost every other model. I have seen wild current fluctuations before and sending it back was a good call.
I’m hoping toolkit has gotten better in the past couple of years. Possibly on newer models 🤙
Can you do plus one more test ? Just to comprovate accuracy: finish charge on m6d, measure cells on isdt / icharge / multimeter and put it back on m6d to confirm isdt/icharge/multimeter measured value ? When I measure my cnhl charged on ISDT Q6 pro, every cells stay just near to 4.20 (4.195 ~4.199).
I will try to test it again as soon as I can. My boss was impressed with the charger he wanted to play with it. So I gave him mine for now and we haven’t gotten a new shipment yet 😂 Thanks for the comments and I will definitely do my best to get a reply to this as soon as I can
Needs a charge squid, balance board, and AC adapter if it wants to replace my TB-6B. Very few ofthe batteries I charge are on XT60
Fair point, but the M6D has exactly 10X more power and twice as many channels as the TB-6B, plus it costs less. It may be a great charger if you ever need more power! You'll just have to spring for some accessories if that day ever comes.
@@ChaddRainsFPV I'm a nitro guy so my charging needs are more towards 'affordable and won't set my house on fire' than 'gotta fast-charge an entire backpack full of 6s packs'. Mostly I'm charging Li-FE packs for running my receivers, glow driver nickel cells, I have a couple of 2s7400 hardpacks for my starter.
If you had to put a rating or scale the isdt q6 or Q8 against , this one you reviewed and against the any other you may have ? What would that scale look like ? I have the isdt nano q6 and it’s awesome for its size and capabilities yet can only. Discharge 1A max and output 5/8amps per cell if I’m not wrong which for charging is fine , but have you tested that power supply mode for this one you reviewed? Goes all the way to 15A?
The M6D is a step above in utility compared to a q6 and q8 but only time till tell for longevity. I have a q6 still running strong after 4 years of regular use. The power supply functions as it should (though I didn’t do extensive testing) and the discharge rating for all of these pocket sized chargers will not be good. Between 5-10w on average.
Isdt makes a good discharge bank called the fd-200. Hope this helps 🤙
@@ChaddRainsFPV on this charger you get W/h reading on the what ever is the input source right ? This would go 10-12wAtts discharge what about the battery to battery discharge feature ? Will the battery being discharge display the mah capacity and million ohms IR?
@@charlschuck6 - The pack being discharged (in any circumstance so long as it is connected to the output) will display the capacity that has been drawn. During the discharge, IR is also available, yes.
@@ChaddRainsFPV thanks
The resistance is not 1 digit, it's 3 digits !
Resistance is measured in Ohm but it displays milliohm, 1000 milliohm is 1 ohm
Then later on you say it's 7000 volts off, not sure what you mean by that I suppose you missed that there is a COMMA, 25.274V is not 25 thousand volt, it's 25 volt.
Hey Ha Ka, thanks for watching so closely. It’s good when your work is detailed closely. In regards to the ‘digit’ I mentioned, I realize the charger can measure above 9 mOhms (it even shows in my video a double digit reading on the 3S pack on channel 2), I meant it won’t do any readings smaller than 1mOhm or a fraction of a mOhm. Say you’re charging a 10Ah pack. I would expect it to have an iR of around 0.5 mOhms. I don’t think the charger is capable of displaying that or it would have given a digit after a decimal place with my other packs. As for “7000 volts off”, I actually say “7 thousandths of a volt off”. Which is mathematically accurate 🤙
@@ChaddRainsFPV Hi,
Glad you didn't take it negative.
To explain:
1 milliohm is an incredible tiny resistance, a 6S lipo with 10 milliohm internal resistance can deliver 2500 amps, that's more than 60 kilowatt; enough to power a resi
dential building also enough to damage the lipo within a fraction of a second when shorted of course.
Meassuring tenth of a milliohm is useless, the cables have way more resistance than that so a few millimeter more or less cable or a bit dust on your connector can cause such changes you'd read different resistance all the time because any test changes the temperature of the connection and thus the resistance.
So if you find that sort of precision in a tool that costs less than 10 grand it's not a sign of quality, it's lack of quality.
When it comes to voltage it's the same thing. I'm not a native speaker so I misheard you.
1/7000 volt is a tenth of a millivolt.
All the errors from above come in and make that useless.
Only highest quality tools can measure such voltages and that needs laboratory equipment and setup.
Even talking to the cable will have an influence of that magnitude in voltage.
So if any charger reports 1/100 of a volt difference you can ignore that digit because it's by far not precise enough.
1/10th of a volt is about the accuracy you can get and anything more precise than that is washed away by entropy.
Ha Ka - Thanks for the reply. Your internal resistance understanding is good, but possibly not that good when it comes to LiPo batteries. There is a huge difference in performance between a cell that has an internal resistance of say 1.5mOhms (common from a high quality 5 Ah LiPo cell) vs one that has an internal resistance of 9mOhms (common from a 1300mah cell). The voltage sag alone would be very noticeable under the normal load of an rc aircraft. As for the voltage, it was 7/1000 (spoken as ‘seven thousandths) of a volt that was said in the video. Which is what my icharger x6 is capable of displaying. I do say in the video that that is a very small amount of energy and I consider the charger had done a good job of balancing.
Wish I saw this helpful video before I bought the M6D because now that I have it, I find it has no power supply and I cant actually use it.
Its not really a home charger but more of a field charger by the looks.
My charger indicate battery with cells instead of wattage like urs. Did u change the anything in the settings? Also how to turn off the charger instead of close it off the switch of the power supply?
Thanks
I’m almost positive you can switch to wattage in the back settings menu or you can just scroll a bit more to see wattage. As for turning off the charger, the only way is to power down your PSU or unplug the charger.
@@ChaddRainsFPV thanks for the info buddy
That multimeter not good, fine rewiew
Yeah, the multimeter I am using is really basic. But I appreciate the comment 🤙
You are suggesting a $70 2.5 kg brick for this baby. I think better choice is Hota d6 plus with built in AC power supply.
The Hota D6 plus looks pretty nice actually. But it’s not going in your pocket like the M6D, it’s going to stay on the bench. And if it’s staying on the bench, why not have the big brick of a PSU? Both setups total out to about the same price (within ~$5) and the M6D is a good amount more powerful.
can a 575 watt 12v power supply use sync mode and charge at 25 amps or only the normal 15 amps?
I am not sure why you would need sync mode to charge at 25 amps, both channels are rated to 30 amps each. In sync mode, you could charge at 50 amps.
You can access sync mode with any 12v supply greater than ~12w. So basically any would work 🤙
@@ChaddRainsFPV oh i thought the limit was 15 amps each port?
@@maagneticc6470 Sorry, I was looking at the wrong video. I did a video on the new DX8 just a bit ago, thought this comment was on that.
Same is applicable for power supply though. A 12v power supply at 575w is actually limited on the M6D, which can only draw 360w from a 12v source; but that’s more than enough to do 25 amps on 1s,2s and 3S batteries and can even do 25 amps on 4s batteries for a little while (it will trickle down to about 22 amps by the time the battery reaches ~4v per cell. Hope this helps 🤙
@@ChaddRainsFPV Thanks i only plan to charge a 2s and 3s is the max for one port 15 amps?
@@maagneticc6470 it’s is. The M6D does 15 amps per channel and the other charger I reviewed does 30 (the DX8). Make sure to get the M6D from a reputable retailer; ToolKit RC has had QC issues as of late.
4:50 what is that power supply
That’s a Chargery S1500 knockoff. I’ll get ya more info if you want, shoot me a message on FB if we still friends!