John Kay and Steppenwolf at Cain's Ballroom 1-17-1981
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Here’s a time capsule from “Tulsa’s Timeless Honky Tonk”, the Cain’s Ballroom. An historic performance by a legendary band, and national treasure - John Kay and Steppenwolf. How many of their songs sound like they could have been written today? This is the version of the band with the Palmer brothers on lead guitar and drums. This recording is from a Betamax dub of the 3/4” master, and this is as clean as I could make it look. The audio was recorded on a separate 2-track tape directly from the sound board, so at least the audio is excellent.
If you were at the Cain’s that night, you know what a great performance this was - you made them do three encores! If you weren’t lucky enough to be in attendance you should check it out…
Steppenwolf at the Cain's Ballroom 2/17/1981
1 Rock Me 1:52
2 I'm Movin' On 4:05
3 Five Finger Discount 8:00
4 Hey Lawdy Mama 12:55
5 You 17:00
6 Snowblind Friend 21:15
7 A Hot Night In A Cold Town 25:25
Band Introductions 29:25
8 Underworld Figure 30:40
9 Sooki Sooki 34:30
10 Ain't Nothin' Like It Used To Be 38:00
11 Magic Carpet Ride 42:10
12 Give Me Some News I Can Use 46:40
13 Move Over 50:25
14 Business Is Business 54:00
15 Born To Be Wild 57:40
16 The Pusher 1:02:45 (1st Encore)
17 Monster/America 1:09:20 (2nd Encore)
18 40 Days And 40 Nights 1:19:15 (3rd Encore)
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I was there that night . This is crazy !!!! You can say this was a few years back. I was about 24 years old and 65 now. Cant believe I found this.
I was 16 years old when I saw them on this tour. I am 59 now !!
The Wolf always had such a hardcore following. I have been a super fan since they came out and I am 66. John stills all songs in the same key. Rock on 2021. Peace to all.
sings. oops.
Rest in Peace Brett Tuggle, Keyboards & Vocals on this recording. He appears on many live and studio recordings, and was an exceptional player that will be missed........
Very sorry to hear of this, may he rest in Peace....
May Brett rest in peace….he was with JK&S in the very early 1980’s
Saw him at one of the early Bogart’s shows in Cincy, OH
Fighting their way back to save the reputation of one of the greatest bands in rock n roll history... I saw them several times over the next 10 ,15 years...as the group changed their members and their sound evolved... they were always good, totally professional. In early summer of 1989, they opened a tour in a little stadium in Oroville, CA. Les Dudek was their lead guitar player...Unbelievable show that night... had the audience in total bliss... God bless John Kay, and thanks for 55 years of outstanding music...
Absolutely fantastic! No one else understood the political & social issues of the times & also wrote the songs to reflect these most important issues. His music is so great, close to the heart & relevant to our lives, even today. What an intelligent, artistic, insightful, talented, articulate as well as a very good looking hunk of true red blooded masculinity John Kay is...A. valuable & inspirational national treasure✌❤
I caught JK&S at Bogarts in Cincinnati during this 1981 Tour.
They sound very good in this recording and it’s great that this recording and others are out there documenting the Band’s fight to reclaim the name of STEPPENWOLF !
Caught a double show at Bogarts in Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1980….
An amazing journey for JK & S and it was a thrill to be a loyal fan and friend along the way !! 🐾🐾🐺🐾🐾
Off topic but I was in Cincinnati around 1993 and caught Peter Frampton at Bogarts. What a cool club.
I remember it was a GREAT show. Nice to see my camera work from 35 years ago!!
Stay tuned - I've got the Elvin Bishop show in the edit room right now...
Big shout out to Mike and Steve Palmer. My Utah homies. I grew up with these cats back in Roy, Utah in the 60s. They sounded great back then too!
Played in a band called "Tallwater" if I recall correctly. They were both awesome, really played with passion!!
I met both of them many times. Nicest and most talented people you could meet. Love them.
@@mrb4886 Steven Palmer was Jerry Edmonton's roadie and Jerry said that he could set up his kit within an inch of how he would've done it himself!
Wow, just wow, did not expect the RUclips algorhytm to feed me this when I never been fed Steppenwolf before from it. Steppenwolf Live still one of my favourite recordings, up there with the all time classics, thanks for this
Michael Palmer's guitar is so so bad ass on "Hot Night in a cold town", how he never became a famous guitarist I'll never understand.....
I saw them on October 31, 1980 in Worcester, Ma. Still one of the best concerts that I have ever seen !!!!
I saw them on October 31, 1980 in Worcester, Ma !! They ROCKED THE HOUSE !!!!
Just amazing !!! I saw this tour just about 3 months earlier in Worcester, Ma on October, 31 1980
Saw him at least a half dozen times at MY FATHERS PLACE in Long Island back in the early 80's.
Saw this tour at the Channel in Boston !
This is great to experience this concert with the early members as I saw them at Harty's Pub and the Fulton Theater about this time. Most of the playlist is the same.
(Sorry, these performances were both in Pennsylvania.)
Great Concert !!! I saw them on 10/31/1980 at E.M. Lowes Theatre in Worcester, Ma
I saw these guys in a little bar in Illinois on this very tour. I remember when I got there I was looking around for Kent Henry or Goldie MC John or biondo. But none of the old wolf crew were there. He had some brand spanking new young players with him. Which was totally cool by me. There were all these bikers at the bar and they were so rough looking but they were the nicest guys in the world to me. We all had a great time and John Kay went through all his songs. I'll never forget that evening as long as I live because steppenwolf is one of the greatest rock bands who ever graced this fine Earth. 😁
He didn't have the money to pay any of the old players to be in the band, he was rebuilding the band after the "bogus" bands trashed the name so he was short on cash in the beginning.
@@lesschoenberger3070 my understanding was that he did not invite any of the old members back because he thought that they had abandoned steppenwolf and trashed the good name of the band so they didn't deserve to cash in on the later riches that the band would acquire when CDs came out and their popularity gained because of MTV rotation. I actually got to meet the bogus singer that fronted steppenwolf during Kay's presence. His name was Tommy Holland. He was the lead singer of a Chicago band called Holland. The poor guy did not know what he was in for when he joined steppenwolf. John kase and his thugs around to intimidate and pick on the bogus members of steppenwolf when they were touring. Because nobody could front step off by John Kay and anybody else would just be an imposter.
@@chriskroll4166 When Steppenwolf disbanded in late 1976 several ex-members namely Goldy McJohn and Nick St. Nicholas were approached by a guy named Steve Green who asked them "want to go back on the road as Steppenwolf?", and them needing the money said "yes" even though they knew John Kay was not involved. Other ex-members Kent Henry and Rushton Moreve were in "bogus" Steppenwolf bands at some point too, as there were about 4 or 5 bands claiming to be Steppenwolf. When Kay heard of this, he and original drummer Jerry Edmonton were upset, got legal counsel, and were advised to let Goldy and Nick use the name IF they sign their rights away to any past royalties which they did. Once people found out it was not John Kay but either like you said Holland or Tom Pagan or several others fronting the band it got ugly, and it was late 1979 that Kay decided the best way to put these bogus bands out of business was to hit the road billed as "John Kay & Steppenwolf" so people would know it was him, and also so he could also do some solo stuff. It didn't take long for the bogus bands to cave in, but they had wrecked the band's name so badly that Kay had to play some real dives and small bars, I saw him in several of them in 1980 and 1981, but he built up the band and become successful again. But he had no money to pay Jerry to play drums or George Biondo to play bass or Bobby Cochran to play guitar, and he certainly wasn't going to invite Goldy or Nick back in the band, not after that. And yes, when CD's came out those guys that signed away their royalty rights lost a LOT of money!!
@@lesschoenberger3070 I feel sorry for those guys very much but when you sign away your royalty rights that is it. I think I saw steppenwolf on the tour when they let out the album wolf tracks. Because I thought it was very odd that John Kay would cover hold your Head up by argent. But it works because John makes everything work. It's too bad they had to go through all that and fight each other but I believe that John Kay does own the name steppenwolf and he is steppenwolf. But all those other guys you mentioned are such great players. I Guess That's why they call It Rock and roll. ✌️
@@chriskroll4166 I saw them on that tour in 1983
They played these small clubs and played their asses off trying to rebuild the band's name and they did, I don't know how many times I was in these small places with maybe 600 or 800 people and they would just go crazy, screaming, cheering, standing on tables, just going crazy, it sounded like 6,000 people not 600!
Yes.
YES INDEED !! (As JK would say !!)
Saw this line-up at Toads Place New Haven, 1981. Have thei set on CD. Great to see the show.
I saw this tour just 3 months earlier at E.M. Loews Theatre in Worcester, Ma. I was 16 years old. A Rolling Stones Tribute band " The Blushing Brides " was the opening act. When Steppenwolf came on stage, The place went CRAZY !!!
I was 20 years old in 1981 so when I would see them I was usually bombed out of my mind so I don't remember a whole lot, but I haven't had a drink in 30 years so it is so good to be able to now see what I missed and/or forgot lol!!!!
I was 25 years old back then, my party hearty days as well. Prior to the Wolf taking the stage the club management got on the P.A. to get the crowd pumped up for the Wolf. They said, we want you all to have a great time tonight, enjoy the $1.00 drafts from our bar, but please don't smoke any pot, you'll be doing our bouncers a big favor. However, the smell of weed was very strong and nobody was being escorted out by bouncers or the two uniformed cops we saw also providing security, so we figured, what the hell and fired up. It was a great show!!!
Classic!! Hung with John in Yorkville, Toronto (The Sparrow) and followed ever since. 50th anniversary in Nashville (2017) was amazing!
The Sparrow were awesome! If they would've put out some of their hard rocking blues singles they might've made it famous, instead they put out some of their more obscure songs with Dennis Edmonton singing, not bad stuff but not what they were which was a hard rocking blues rock band!
I remember when John lived in Oshawa Ontario !!!
Saw the Monster tour in 70. University of MD. The Pagans MC had a 'small' riot
Great show! But I miss Larry's guitar work
Oh THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!
OMG~~ I'm just now seeing this! Thanks so so much for posting this fun fun night at Cain's Ballroom!!! I was there taking a few pics for Peaches Records & Tapes, we sold quite a few tix for this night.
We can't physically go back to 1981, altho I would in a NY minute, but vids like this can take us back at least 1:23:14!! 🎵🎶🎵
I was there too - I was running the mobile camera in front of the stage. It was a really great night!
Saw this same lineup around Sept '81 @ Lowry AFB Denver, Co. One of the best concerts I've ever seen. This ain't the classic lineup but they sound fantastic anyway, just like I remember it. Not too shabby! I also remember that John Kay rode his Harley on stage to open the show! I thought that was pretty cool!
I seen this tour in 1981, or was it '82, at the little bar 'Summers' on the beach in Ft Lauderdale Fla..I was 23. It kicked ass
absolutely great. so cool that this has been preserved and posted.
Hi Liam !!!
I believe I last talked with you at the show outside the Dayton, Ohio, area…near Kettering, Ohio…
Great venue and JK&S were playing with Fog Hat, if my memory is correct !
Venue was the Fraze Center…
@ Liam Hurley
I believe I took your photo with JK….before the show…along with Charlie W……🤗👍😎
John and Michael on guitar just effing rock.
I saw them just 6 weeks earlier in Worcester, Ma at E.M. Loews Theater !! The place was packed to the rafters !!!
I was 16 years old !!!
I saw John Kay & Steppenwolf a couple of weeks earlier at a club in St. Louis, MO., called, Night Moves, the place was packed, literally. Before the show the club's management announced, 'Please don't smoke any pot, you'll be doing our bouncers a big favor.' But the place was already full of pot smoke, you got high just breathing...lol. It was a really good show, no one left disappointed!
I was 16 years old in 1980. The tickets were $ 8.00 and it was one of the best concerts I have ever been to. !!!
thanks for your work on this
1981 was the year.
The 1980s lineup of the group.
billed as John Kay & Steppenwolf.
One of the many lineups with that name, Danny Ironstone was the first keyboard player with Kay but was replaced here by Brett Tuggle who was replaced by Michael Wilk and so on and so on with other members.
Super !!!!!!!!!!!!
John's tuneup/intro at 1:02:46 to "the Pusher" is so bad ass too!!!
John wiped a clean slate from the past and started over
again.
He wiped out the bogus bands calling themselves "Steppenwolf" and really had no choice to go back out on the road, he didn't have much of the money left that he made in the late 60's and 70's so he needed the work but also DID rebuild the band's good name!!
He certainly has done that.
He didn't want to cheat
the fans out of a musical
experience.
When you work hard, it
pays off.
Back in the 1960s and 70s
money was different than
what it is today.
Now, I'm starting to like YT's recommended section. Awesome!
It seemed like it was yesterday.
the group had through many
Changes throughout the years.
Originally from the album
Steppenwolf 7.
@toneyisaiah3556- What?
Some of the songs are from " 7 " ,,,,, please explain yourself.
1:12:31 1:12:32 1:12:33
@@toneyisaiah3556 - Disagree!
1:19:15 is "40 Days and 40 Nights" (Steppenwolf 7).
Snowblind Friend is on their setlist as well (7). That's it, brother. I can teach ya all about's Steppenwolf, just let me know when you have the time.....lol
I have the album or Steppenwolf
7 on cd.
Larry Byrom wrote the composition.
What do you guys think of the echo they put on John's voice at times here? I think it's nice on some songs but maybe a bit much on a few others....
You also have to take into consideration these clubs they played in the early 80's. The majority of them were old buildings, not suitable music venues. The acoustics weren't only bad, they really didn't have any at all. I saw JK & The Wolf on this tour a month earlier at a club in St. Louis, called , Nightmoves. It was basically an old concrete building that looked to be an old warehouse converted into a bar/night club.
@@jimmyleon2983 That's true, I saw them in similar places not the best acoustic-wise. But the echo I think was being put on by one of their sound guys on purpose, on certain songs at certain times, probably for special effect?
Wow! Nice submittal ROCKVISION!
Ronald Reagan was just beginning his first year (of his first term) as president. MTV blasted off in 1981 as well. They stormed the airwaves (perhaps a little later in the year 1981), and *ME.....* myself, was a young lad chasing beautiful women.
*Per John Kay,* - The double LP, "Steppenwolf Live" is an album I hate to listen too. Nick St. Nicholas was acting insubordinate during that tour and was purposely de-tuning his bass guitar at shows. I hate that F-ing album"
Per John Kay's auto-biography, "Magic Carpet Ride."
- Nick was later fired with George Biondo fitting in quite nicely. Steppenwolf-7 was a killer LP (as the follow-up release).
I've read John's book and I don't remember him saying Nick was purposely detuning his bass or acting insubordinate on that tour, but I do know John can't stand listening to that album.
@@lesschoenberger3070 - *Oh yes he does.*
I'll refer to the chapter, paragraph and page number when I have the time.
- You don't recall in the book where Nick wore a pink g-string over his black leathers just to piss-off John? C'mon. I laughed my ass off, then, later i was happy he got shitcanned.
@@JamminClemmons Perhaps you read these things in another book because all I can find in John's book "Magic Carpet Ride" is from chapter nine "Monster on the loose" from pages 257-259 where he says about the live album "the album captured a rather sub par performance and revealed that Nick's playing was way out of tune in "Magic Carpet Ride". To this day I can't stand to listen to that album." He then talks about how Nick used to dress as opposed to the rest of the band and talks about the Fillmore show with the sequined jock strap but I see nothing in there about him wearing a pink g-string or John saying he "f-ing hates the album" but I don't doubt that either of these is false, I'm just wondering where you might have read that from because if there is such a thing I would certainly like to read it also as it sounds pretty funny lol!!
@@lesschoenberger3070 I have seen both John and Nick play bass. live, unlike many here. Moreve was more interested in his craft and Nick in his 'Make Up". Having won a spot on 'Steppenwolf' for free, I am sure that Nick felt it was a day gig.....
Fantastic live video and recording !!!
Oklahoma, correct?
Yes
1:19:00 look at the right side of the screen and you'll see someone hoisting a chair in the air lol!!
Greatest band of all time !!