Tough Warship USS Crommelin Refuses To Die During Sinking Exercise SINKEX
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2016
- Aerial video of the sinking exercise (SINKEX) of the decommissioned guided-missile frigate USS Crommelin (FFG 37) during military Exercise RIMPAC 2016. Live fire from ships and planes sank the USS Crommelin July 19th, 60 miles north of Kauai, Hawaii. USS Crommelin was the 28th ship of the Oliver Hazard Perry-class guided-missile frigates.
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My favorite command, I sailed aboard USS CROMMELIN as her Chief Quartermaster (navigator) for four years, 1987-91. She was like a sportscar. Damned good ship, happy crew. I had a feeling she would go down with her fists still in the air...
Thanks u for ur service
Served 2006-2009. I knew that ship like the label of my favorite beer. Sad to watch this, we sank other ships that went down quicker. That’s a fact.
Did you know Pete Dunihue?
Hey Chief, Ed Molloy here.
I served on the FIG37 with you
from 89-92.
Sailed a lot of miles on her.
Great ship, great crew.
EW2 Puckett 1985-1988. Kinda makes ya wonder if it took 8 hours. Why sink it?
My first command, work was tough but when we pulled into port and heard liberty call, liberty call! We played even harder! 2009-2012. Blood, sweat and tears put into this warship. Thanks for all the memories.
The interesting part about the OHP class is how inexpensive they were, yet how capable they were. You could buy 12-15 of them for the cost of a modern Arleigh Burke. They were designed to be missile sponges in case of saturation attack on the Carrier Battle Group or Reforger convoy, which means they were intended to remain a valid radar target for as long as possible. For $80MM per hull, they were super tough, had decent air defense and were a real threat in the ASW role. They could dodge torpedoes and be fast moving targets to draw in anti-ship missiles while launching SM1s and chaff all across the outer picket lines. They were expendable but tough to kill, which made her crew among the bravest souls in the fleet.
my old ship 88-91...sure miss her... I was on her while she was stationed at Long Beach, CA. I left a month before she moved to Hawaii...
my old ship was on her in long beach too
did you know mr porter i think he was the chief petty officer
every frigate sailor knew how tough they were.
She's tough! Still, this must be hard for her former crew to watch.
You'd think so but nah, I'd rather see her sunk than sold to some country that hates us.
@@usn020702 Yes, that is true. And the ship deserves a final resting place in battle (well this was an exercise, but still) rather than just being scrapped. There is actually a Navy SeaStory Podcast on this.
www.navy.com/explore-the-navy/sea-story
Its called "INDESTRUCTIBLE", episode 18
Yep, same with the uss thatch(same ship class as this one) was able to take a mk.48 torpedo to the bow and float several hours later, along with some AGM missiles
I did three FFGs, Clifton Sprague, OHP and Sides. Good ships Glad to see her go so hard. Think about it, all the doors are open, no one is fighting damage and no one is firing back.
This was my first lady. I learned to drive a warship on her. She was a queen of the seas!
Jared Keys If it makes you feel better before we sinkex her I went aboard to strip anything else useful on board for my cruiser Port Royal CG73. And I gotta say not much of a queen this was a dump probably cus it sat in the bone yard for a while.
Mr. Keys! How the hell are ya?
I'll miss her, We had some great years as a Plank Owner, (82-87). Take note at the water line shot, its combat's berthing! Tom
Starving kids in Africa could have eaten than ship... :P
The Perrys are phenomenally tough boats, apparently. There was recently another sinkex where that ship refused to die as well, even after multiple missile and torpedo hits.
Kids would have?? we didnt think that one out too well did we
That would be USS Thach, I think.
Easy to maintain.
That's my girl. Spent some of best years with her.
I bet even the ship builder did not expect she to be this tough
Something tells me that those crappy littoral ships will not be anywhere as resilient as the FFG7 class. I spent my hitch on FFG47 the USS Rentz, sad to see her wasted like that.
Agreed
I helped in the new construction of the RENTZ. Not sure if you remember from 1/4 deck to ladder down to the bottom to mess eating area were lettering cut out in the floor tile USS RENTZ. Myself and other coworkers installed the Floor Tiles there. I remember when the hull was being built. I would drive to the blueprints building where we had supplies stored inside of the building and outside I would see my friends welding each plate steel to the I Beams to completion. When complete, the other area where the aluminum superstructure were built, would contain all electronic equipment and other to see each section be lifted up onto the steel hull and be welded into place. I would attend each of the many FFG’s christening then dropped off into the water for the first time and think how could all of the weight these FFG’s weighed slide into the water without stressing developing a leak? Once into the water all of our trades kicked into gear and brought the RENTZ to completion. My last day in the new construction of the RENTZ was a sad but happy day watching Her go out with the tugs guiding her through the harbor to the break water in San Pedro Ca for Her first Sea Trial. Everything was freshly painted, all stenciling complete, sanitary spaces new with fresh terrazzo floors. Some of my friends that worked on Her now have passed on at a few funerals Todd Pacific Shipyards were mentioned with reminiscing each area that they were responsible if it were ventilation, welding or electronic spaces had special meaning. Foto Joe gave me pictures taken watching the launcher on the bow next to the Pilot House lob a guided ordnance off the launcher with a burst of flames then out of sight of the lenses. Anyway, USS RENTZ MADE ME PROUD to know learning where she went in the world and all who served provided security to those where She was called to serve. To all who served aboard Her, thank you for your service, sacrifice away from home and family. You all will not be forgotten because of the legacy you all created aboard USS RENTZ…. KC…
The Perry class frigates are tough as nails.....they refuse to sink at Sinkex. Will be very interesting to see an Arliegh Burke at Sinkex in the future
That was a perfectly good ship. Could've given it to me...
she was a touch one right.. my husband was stationed on her in the 80s.. then we became plank owner of the uss puller.. god bless america
that is how a warship dies one last fight
Tough to Watch, but some great memories - Plank Owner 82-87 OS1
I have a friend that is a OS1
GMM3 Frederic Shaud was on this ship in '85 - '86 we grew up together and I visited him often in Long Beach from Pendleton. RIP Crommelin and GMM3 Shaud!
Good to hear from you, check in sometime, OS1 Tom
I did not serve on a FFG, but I did instruct GS's at the FFG 2500 school at the Philly Navy yard.
The thing I remember most about that ship. The Chief of the boat would send the deck crew out with needle guns. The 1st day was not so bad. But the 2nd day. After I spent that evening before that with my 2 best friends. Al K. Hol and Nick O. Tine.
Bye Cromm! 93 to 97 FC2 CS3 Div
It's hard to watch your old home go to Davy Jones. She was a very fine vessel and I got the live on it
The Crommelin was my only sea command from 94 to 96. Sad to see her go but I am glad to know she was as tough as the 5 Crommelin brothers she was named after!
Tough to watch especially all the Plankowners including myself who brought their baby to life from Seattle to Long Beach, FTG Coop, CS-3 Div. 82-84.
@Montrose2525 Sir, i hate to correct you but the Flatley is in the Turkish navy as the TCG Gemlik (F 492). I served on her from 1987 to 1991 in CS-4 Div as a Comm ET. We replaced the Stark in the persian gulf in 1987 after the Stark took the two missile hits. Funny how other navies are still using the FFG 7 class but the US navy condemned them to sinkexs when we removed the MK-13 launchers.
Dan in Jupiter
ET2
USS Flatley FFG-21 "HAVE COURAGE"
my son is in the navy HMS navy you made that ship well thank god
The Chinese Navy are scratching their heads.......ITS AN OLD SHIP. AND IT WONT GO DOWN! WTF!
Fig7's were pretty tough ships
love it
Damn oliver
They are actually considering bringing the last twelve perry class frigates that remain in reserve and putting them back in active service. Also, they are considering putting the Kitty Hawk, back in active service.
Sadly, they just made a statement that they aren't doing this. I had my hopes up.
The Perry class were tough ships.
Munus Bene Factum!
Nice! She is a tough ship!
Wonder what she took as hits?
The ship is probably like
"Oh *HELL* *NAW* I ain't dying today"
Damn.. they're sinking the Perrys? Bummer.
Sad to see them going......
o7
First. Nice vid!
You hardly ever see them burn like that during a SINKEX. They're pretty well stripped and empty of fuel or munitions. I wonder what's burning?
Goes to show, until ships take hull damage below the waterline they ain't sinking!!
It's a shame, and how many of it's class are museums now? I'm betting ZERO.
Sadly, you're right. I thought about starting a petition for this since there are a few the navy is selling, however I'm worried it won't get enough signatures
Jim Douglas I would so sign up. Any idea which ship we would (or should) try?
Well they were trash. Gladly I got to rip out anything left that was useful from her and the Reuben James before they were sunk. USS Port Royal CG73.
They never show the actual sinking! That would be nice to see a few of them go down.
I just wish we could of seen it get hit with whatever ordinance was used. That and also when it did start to sink. What was generating all of that smoke? The paint burning?
paint, insulation, rubber, plastic, a few other things left...
I thought that they stripped all of that stuff out.
Did it ever sink
I dont really understand the point of all these target ships being sunk by live fire. what useful info do you get from shooting very expensive ammo at a "dead ship" thats isn't maneuvering, isn't using countermeasures, isn't firing back at you. isn't using damage control. seems like a waste of good hulls that could be sold to nato allies or recycled.
In addition to training operations during war games, data from sinking these ships is used to further develop weapons, and naval architects for better designed warships against enemy threats.
i understand all that but to sink for instance the whole Spurance class seemed like such a waste to me. those hulls had alot more life left to them, now we are stuck scrambling to try to get a bunch of crappy OHP class maybe back into service.
You get a lot of information about the structural integrity of the ship, the materials she is made of, where weak points that were not anticipated arise, and so on. They are absolutely indispensible. The point is not to test the defensive measures of the ship. The point is to test the structural integrity of the ship itself.
@@tomthx5804that info is irrelevant. this class was built in the 70s and already been replaced by the burke class. totally different designs. i can see it being beneficial to test our the weapon systems themselves, but to destroy a whole class of ship? doesnt make sense to me. its almost like they didnt want any allies to get ahold of them.
So what does this say about the weapons systems used? A ship with no crew to fight fires, plug the holes, etc; should sink quickly.
Most warships have so many watertight compartments that you might as well try to sink a Styrofoam pool toy.
I can see sinking a couple of OHPs to see how much damage they could take but they should have been repurposed for the LCS role. Any SLEP required would have been cheaper the the failed LCS program.
another one worth watching is bikini islands nuke test on the ss newyork it survives 2 blasts
Save 10 minutes. She does not sink, tough one !
Is it just me or do our advanced anti-ship weapons lack decisive power? Not to take away from the obvious durability of this vessel...
hmm, afterthought: are these ships outfitted with some sort of secondary hulls that are designed to keep them afloat for the purpose of towing them back to shore for disposal and scrap?
Just water tight compartments with lots of hatches closed and dogged tight.
its good that it doesn't sink easily
he's on fire but still on waterline. definetly - not sink
What did they fire at her? Makes you wonder if we needed to sink a enemy ship if would be able to effectively??
Also they shooting above her water line.
They fired Harpoon anti ship
missiles and 5”/ 54 cannons.
The whole idea is to disable it
as quick as possible.
Take it out of the fight.
Tough little frigate, or inadequate warheads? I know, the ship didn't have to be disintegrated to be rendered ineffective. One hit could've easily taken it out of action. Still, how would one of those big-ass Russian anti-ship missiles do in comparison?
One of this class got hit by two Exocet missiles, and another hit a mine during Operation Earnest Will. Neither sank and neither where scrapped. Tough little bastards, but they're too outdated for modern warfare.
The OHPs are some of the tougher warships we've designed, although something like a Russian Type 53-65 or an AS-4 would probably ruin it's day. Their beauty, though, comes from the fact that we designed them to be lost, and to be replaced, extremely quickly. They were quick to build and tough to sink, which is what we need in blue-water escorts.
@@L.J.Kommer The USS Stark FFG-31 got hit by the two Exocets and the USS Samuel Roberts FFG-58 hit the mine. My ship (the USS FLATLEY FFG-21) replaced the Stark in 1987 after the hit and My Brother in Law was the Corpsman on board the Roberts (HM1 (SW) James Lambert).
Dan in Jupiter
2008-2012
Hm...... I can think of a better headline.
Faulty US ordnance fails to sink minimally armored frigate. Concerns raised about efficacy of US ordnance stockpiles.
**GULP**
my sentiment exactly
All the watertight door are closed and the ship is designed to NOT sink when hit. You really have to beat the crap out of these FFG's
During RIMPAC they typically allow other, smaller nation participants take shots at these since it might be the only time they get the practice for real.
no fuel no ammo on board this is expected
why are you sinking her there is met at that could be used to build cars and other ships
Too expensive to scrap
Can somebody tell me y do they do this I'm Clueless ?
Practice shooting weapons from ship to ship , submarine to ship and air to ship weapons
The frigates hulls got too thin so they decommed them and now they use it for this.
Of course there is fuel or weapons on board or it wound burn much faster ! SSgt, Semper Fi
Have a sub blow the bottom out of it. that'll sink it.
They will not going to sink the perrys becsuse phlippines need it ang us need it becuse they will use it as a missile ship fighting china
Sinking ship cause collusion
Waste Of Taxpayers Money!
far more useful than just scrapping as the training would be invaluable