2020 here and I’m trading in my vtx 1300r Honda. This is exactly the bike I wanted from Triumph and what I consider a perfect machine for me. The vtx has served me well and I only bought it because it was a ridiculously cheap trade in with very low miles. I’m actually getting more than I paid for it. Looking forward to many smiles and miles on my new speed twin.
Looks like an Honda CB350 with modern rims. I think that since they bastardized the Thruxton R with Ducati parts, they probably should have thrown these wheels on it for good measure. All the lighter bits too. I'm sure it's a great bike as Triumphs tend to be, but good lookin it ain't.
@@torqueofthedevil8145 It is what? Good? Yes, I'm sure it is. Just looks like a UJM. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just the Japanese already do this. I can't fault Triumph for cashing in on this look too if that's the latest fad. I just prefer Brit bikes that look more British.
Not sure if anyone gives a damn but if you're stoned like me during the covid times then you can watch all the new movies on Instaflixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last few weeks xD
It's not bad for a "classic"... but, it tends to not finish turns very well in stock form... needs improving... but, if you like a fixer upper or a challenge (as I do)... it's great!
Great review, congratulations mate! I love this bike and it wasn't for the fact that Triumph has produced the 1200 XE Scrambler, and I happen to love off road adventure, I would be buying it!
This is a great motorcycle. It has edged the Thruxton as the premier model classic for Triumph. It is such a nice ride, so comfortable in comparison and very elegant. I think it actually is a better package than the RNineT - better handling and much better around town. It is not a "competitor" really for the Z900RS - not the same kind of machine, apart from reminding one of motorcycles of the 60s and 70s. And one last thing - I understand the idea that this is a "retro" or modern classic, but really, Triumph has never stopped making these bikes! It is only "retro" insofar as it doesn't look like a Ninja 900. But really, this is just what Triumph has been doing, in different forms, since forever.
I agree with Arthur! OBTW, my thought is that Triumph just gets what riders want and are nimble enough to get new models into the market place quickly-ish.
A very attractive, well proportioned bike and a great base upon which to develop the R version. I'm on my third trumpet, all triples, love the triples but this beauty might turn my head. It's priced well and I'm looking forward to a shootout between this the Kawa 900, RnineT and others. I'm sure it will be up there on price, performance and looks.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 The z900 has 4-cyl motor with 108 hp, so it does have a power advantage, but If I were going off look & aesthetics I'd take the Speed Twin all day, that thing is beautiful!
@@BlackbirdSSR I park next to a Speed Twin everyday.. Man! its beautiful. I've also had my eyes on the Indian FTR 1200. For now I'm just gonna keep rockin my SV650.
Somewhere in the world exists a factory cranking out garbage shocks and forks to supply all the world's motorcycles below 18 grand. Man I wish they'd go out of business. Damper rod forks are the motorcycle equivalent of the live-axle suspension on cars. Cheap pre-load only shocks are the motorcycle equivalent of Walmart Monroe shocks costing $30 for cars.
is it not just a more power and obviously modified street twin rather than a changed thruxton?
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Nop.. it is the other way around... IT is based on the 1200 engine and Thrux frame (and some other components), and not on the smaller sibling being nelarged.
I own Suzuki Bandit 1200 k6, how bandit could be compared to twin speed. Honestly I am scared of my bike, I bought it as I was tempted to try difference between 600. Some people say 600 is slow staff like that I did not find 600 slow, for my riding very responding and still powerful and quick to make me alert anytime I pull the throttle. Actually first bandit I crashed so badly so I sold it as wreckage, with second I was more careful. I am thinking to sell currant bandit 1200 never tried to test limits of the bike.
Similar power outputs - unless the Bandit has an aftermarket exhaust system, which adds considerable power. But the Speed Twin 1200 will run rings round the Bandit in terms of handling and brakes - absolutely no comparison, so it'll be much easier to ride for a less experienced rider. The Bandit isn't a bad bike, but it was built to a price as a budget machine and it shows, still a great bike though.
it is not Ferrari over 100 000£, Great Britain is supposed to be fourth best economy in the world, therefore there should be some reflection on living standard of population!
@@patthewoodboy I test drove it a few weeks ago and fell in love. though feel like it's a bit of a stiffer ride but maybe I'm just paranoid and that's just what it's supposed to be. With all gear on I'm probably at around 70-75kg. Can't afford it this year but I'll get it next year for my 30th
Mark Garcia yeah you got it confused with street twin which also got an update it produces around 10hp more by using lighter cam covers and some small updates it also gets the cartridge forks and a 4 pot Brembo caliper they also included 2 riding modes triumph bonneville range has never been this better
I’m sill taking a moment to whine about the non-adjustable suspension. Also the bike would have looked a bit better with a chrome finish pipe in my opinion.
It is beyond understanding really that this bike gets all the trick components to make it lighter, and more agile and flickable than the sportier version of the 1200cc bike. This usually happens the other way around, taking a stock heavy bike and lightening it up to make a sportier version. As far as marketing is concerned it doesn't seem to make sense to me at all.......unless you pay more for the unique parts on it that aren't on the thruxton.
You did not capture the sound of the bike very well. I got to test drive the bike today up in Seattle and I can tell you that the exhaust note is superb your sound is terrible.
That would be awesome and I dunno why they can't either. Though, if you think about the fact that it's almost literally half of a supersport inline 4, 96 horsepower sounds about right. 96 x 2 would equal 192 horsepower, which is on par with all but the newest of the new inline 4s. Then again, the Triumph's displacement is roughly 1200cc, which makes it 200cc larger than an entire inline 4, so Lifted_Above may have something...
It's sort of up there, but not entirely crazy. If I wouldn't have to immediately replace the fork cartridges and put on a set of 3-way rear shocks, that price wouldn't be too bad.
For example? What similar bike is less expensive? Z900RS is sorta close and $1000 less but... meh. I'm not into the look. The sound? Also meh. R Nine T is thousands more, but amazing looking. For the money, what... an adventure bike? A cruiser? Japan? China? That's a very sweeping statement. Can you be more specific? Please do share what you're thinking.
It is T120 with alloy wheels to reduce weight. Alloy wheels are 1970s style, so new tank reflects that. If you don't like 1970s style Triumph Bonneville, don't buy.
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That silver/black scheme is perfect. Beautiful bike.
2020 here and I’m trading in my vtx 1300r Honda. This is exactly the bike I wanted from Triumph and what I consider a perfect machine for me. The vtx has served me well and I only bought it because it was a ridiculously cheap trade in with very low miles. I’m actually getting more than I paid for it. Looking forward to many smiles and miles on my new speed twin.
I traded in my T120 for a Speed Twin and love it, its lighter, more agile, more powerful, and a great ride.
Wonderful machine, superb video, breath taking visuals .... Wow, loved it.
Best looking sport classic.
Looks like an Honda CB350 with modern rims.
I think that since they bastardized the Thruxton R with Ducati parts, they probably should have thrown these wheels on it for good measure. All the lighter bits too.
I'm sure it's a great bike as Triumphs tend to be, but good lookin it ain't.
@@saddle8bag To each of their own.
@@torqueofthedevil8145 It is what? Good? Yes, I'm sure it is. Just looks like a UJM. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just the Japanese already do this. I can't fault Triumph for cashing in on this look too if that's the latest fad. I just prefer Brit bikes that look more British.
@@saddle8bag that one ugly bike in your pic
Not sure if anyone gives a damn but if you're stoned like me during the covid times then you can watch all the new movies on Instaflixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last few weeks xD
I rode this bike and it's absolutely amazing. The best handling bike I have ever ridden.
It's not bad for a "classic"... but, it tends to not finish turns very well in stock form... needs improving... but, if you like a fixer upper or a challenge (as I do)... it's great!
Speed twin is the most modern looking modern classic ( and my favorite) in Triumph lineup !
Beautiful island. Amazing roads and, usually, excellent surface. Can't wait for my next trip in April.
good review,by far one of the best ones on this bike ive seen.
Great review, congratulations mate! I love this bike and it wasn't for the fact that Triumph has produced the 1200 XE Scrambler, and I happen to love off road adventure, I would be buying it!
This is a great motorcycle. It has edged the Thruxton as the premier model classic for Triumph. It is such a nice ride, so comfortable in comparison and very elegant. I think it actually is a better package than the RNineT - better handling and much better around town. It is not a "competitor" really for the Z900RS - not the same kind of machine, apart from reminding one of motorcycles of the 60s and 70s. And one last thing - I understand the idea that this is a "retro" or modern classic, but really, Triumph has never stopped making these bikes! It is only "retro" insofar as it doesn't look like a Ninja 900. But really, this is just what Triumph has been doing, in different forms, since forever.
I agree with Arthur! OBTW, my thought is that Triumph just gets what riders want and are nimble enough to get new models into the market place quickly-ish.
Lovely bike this just in road mode it gets you there very torque bike hardly need the brakes mines totally standard in red love it good video
Great looking bike and a really good review , Thank you :)
Good review. The only Triumph I would consider.
A very attractive, well proportioned bike and a great base upon which to develop the R version.
I'm on my third trumpet, all triples, love the triples but this beauty might turn my head.
It's priced well and I'm looking forward to a shootout between this the Kawa 900, RnineT and others. I'm sure it will be up there on price, performance and looks.
0:21 - 1:13 So, they fixed the Thruxton, basically...
Depends what you're looking for. To my eye, looks like they beat it with an ugly stick, but on long straight roads, I'm sure it's more comfy.
Exactly.
Looks like a winner.
That thing is cool as funk !
Terry Funk? I concur!
Nice review . Would you say this bike is comfortable enough for someone 6”2” for long trips ?
I'll wait for the R spec version Triumph!
I have been enjoying mine for the last two years, so glade i didn't wait for an R version.
If the Speed Twin is anything like my T120, by 5,000-8,000 miles front fork striction will be considerably better than when the bike was new.
Ok, your next comparo... Z900RS, CB1000R, RNineT, MG Griso, Ducati 1200 Scrambler, XSR900 and this. Make it happen! :-)
and my bet is z900rs will demolish the competition
Interesting that the Griso still pulls fans and it’s an “older” bike in the pool of bikes you mention. Be nice to see the Griso back in MG stable.
@@ora10053 I'm debating between the Speed Twin and z900 RS for my next bike.. What makes the Z900RS that better? Have you rode it?
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 The z900 has 4-cyl motor with 108 hp, so it does have a power advantage, but If I were going off look & aesthetics I'd take the Speed Twin all day, that thing is beautiful!
@@BlackbirdSSR I park next to a Speed Twin everyday.. Man! its beautiful. I've also had my eyes on the Indian FTR 1200. For now I'm just gonna keep rockin my SV650.
Nice review :)
Ha! It looks like the birdy that video bombed you jumped into the tailpipe @1:35
:)
Somewhere in the world exists a factory cranking out garbage shocks and forks to supply all the world's motorcycles below 18 grand. Man I wish they'd go out of business.
Damper rod forks are the motorcycle equivalent of the live-axle suspension on cars.
Cheap pre-load only shocks are the motorcycle equivalent of Walmart Monroe shocks costing $30 for cars.
That view at 3:15!!! Wow!!!
What is the ground clearance on the bike? At my place roads aren’t great
Is this not recommended for a beginner biker?
is it not just a more power and obviously modified street twin rather than a changed thruxton?
Nop.. it is the other way around... IT is based on the 1200 engine and Thrux frame (and some other components), and not on the smaller sibling being nelarged.
I’m sure there will be an R version out in a year.
Jool fast forward to 2020 and there isn’t an r version
@@bfarm44 fast forward to 2021 and there isn't an r version.
@@leemacdonald6533 Fast forward to 2022 and there isn't an R version.
Waiting for this motorcycle in Matt black
Perfect muscle bike. 👍🏼
I own Suzuki Bandit 1200 k6, how bandit could be compared to twin speed. Honestly I am scared of my bike, I bought it as I was tempted to try difference between 600. Some people say 600 is slow staff like that I did not find 600 slow, for my riding very responding and still powerful and quick to make me alert anytime I pull the throttle. Actually first bandit I crashed so badly so I sold it as wreckage, with second I was more careful. I am thinking to sell currant bandit 1200 never tried to test limits of the bike.
Similar power outputs - unless the Bandit has an aftermarket exhaust system, which adds considerable power. But the Speed Twin 1200 will run rings round the Bandit in terms of handling and brakes - absolutely no comparison, so it'll be much easier to ride for a less experienced rider. The Bandit isn't a bad bike, but it was built to a price as a budget machine and it shows, still a great bike though.
I had an 03 Bandit 1200 for 14 years. Bullet proof 100 hp and 150 mph.
I need a lot more money than I have
payments?
it is not Ferrari over 100 000£, Great Britain is supposed to be fourth best economy in the world, therefore there should be some reflection on living standard of population!
@@conceptcs Payments cost money, guy.
Even the very latest model still has ancient halogen, headlight bulbs.
I'm around 64kg / 135 pounds. Would you say I'm too light?
no
@@patthewoodboy thank you.
@@flatmotion1 I am at 74 kg .. test ride on Friday .. its an itch that will be scratched ... have a Street Twin.
@@patthewoodboy I test drove it a few weeks ago and fell in love. though feel like it's a bit of a stiffer ride but maybe I'm just paranoid and that's just what it's supposed to be. With all gear on I'm probably at around 70-75kg. Can't afford it this year but I'll get it next year for my 30th
I totally thought the title was speed triple until the video started.
The thruxton is 15k it needs this update asap
The front wheel is 6.6 lbs. lighter?! I'd have been happy with 2 lbs. lighter
So the weight is the only difference from last year's model?
Mark Garcia there is no last year’s model
I must have confused the street twin my mistake.
Mark Garcia yeah you got it confused with street twin which also got an update it produces around 10hp more by using lighter cam covers and some small updates it also gets the cartridge forks and a 4 pot Brembo caliper they also included 2 riding modes triumph bonneville range has never been this better
Very nice
I’m sill taking a moment to whine about the non-adjustable suspension. Also the bike would have looked a bit better with a chrome finish pipe in my opinion.
It is beyond understanding really that this bike gets all the trick components to make it lighter, and more agile and flickable than the sportier version of the 1200cc bike. This usually happens the other way around, taking a stock heavy bike and lightening it up to make a sportier version. As far as marketing is concerned it doesn't seem to make sense to me at all.......unless you pay more for the unique parts on it that aren't on the thruxton.
Because the 1200 Thruxton is already over two years old - I'm sure the refreshed Thruxton will take these improvements and move things on again.
Sounded great until the non- adjustable suspension. Looks like a nice bike though.
Non-adj suspension? Meh. The people who are thinking about buying this bike are already looking up piggy back adjustable shocks on parts sites.
its as cool as penguins piss and its . so much better than any bmw or Italian bike of this class
So how about testing the Thruxton, the Speed Twin, and the T120 in a all Triumph 1200 road shootout....
You did not capture the sound of the bike very well. I got to test drive the bike today up in Seattle and I can tell you that the exhaust note is superb your sound is terrible.
Oh now for the positive note it’s actually a pretty good review.
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Close your eyes and that could be Donald Trump giving this review. 😆
I have set up a facebook group for new owners. If you love or own the Speed twin, this is the page for you. facebook.com/groups/2434630833489611/
Imagine if Triumph got 150 hp out of this 1200cc.
Not sure it's mechanically possible on 1200cc. 2300? Yes.
@@exothermal.sprocket Dookatti du
150 hp? Maybe wait for the Speed Triple 1200 in 2020 then wait another year for the Speed triple R. 😉
Look at the sort of power Ducati has gotten out of twins. Why every parallel twin engine on the market have to be tuned so mildly, is beyond me.
That would be awesome and I dunno why they can't either. Though, if you think about the fact that it's almost literally half of a supersport inline 4, 96 horsepower sounds about right. 96 x 2 would equal 192 horsepower, which is on par with all but the newest of the new inline 4s. Then again, the Triumph's displacement is roughly 1200cc, which makes it 200cc larger than an entire inline 4, so Lifted_Above may have something...
You can do better Evans, you guys are going soft
That's a big asking price, for the money you can do much better elsewhere.
It's sort of up there, but not entirely crazy. If I wouldn't have to immediately replace the fork cartridges and put on a set of 3-way rear shocks, that price wouldn't be too bad.
For example? What similar bike is less expensive? Z900RS is sorta close and $1000 less but... meh. I'm not into the look. The sound? Also meh.
R Nine T is thousands more, but amazing looking. For the money, what... an adventure bike? A cruiser? Japan? China?
That's a very sweeping statement. Can you be more specific? Please do share what you're thinking.
Dunno if I agree you could do better, because EVERYTHING is overpriced nowadays.
After you run stuff through an inflation calculator, you find out why.
Go have a test drive before you commit. I know friends of mine who after test drive couldn't stop talking about it.
First one to like👍
Great bike, but God, it's ugly. I want *this* bike dressed in T100/T120 clothes. How tough can it be?
It is T120 with alloy wheels to reduce weight. Alloy wheels are 1970s style, so new tank reflects that. If you don't like 1970s style Triumph Bonneville, don't buy.
Very Classy and Basic looking motorcycle . . . and too damn expensive for what it is. I can do A LOT BETTER for that kind of money.
For example?
What would you buy for that money?
@@redSectorA A blue eyed Russian hooker and some Vodka.
@@GIGABACHI I'll take the bike. It'll last longer.
What bike would you buy instead?
@@jrb17bomber a used Tuono, Speed Triple or MT10.
However, I'll repeat myself, this thing look proper AF. 👌