Honestly, I know a lot of people were disappointed that there wasn't an actual Hunter fight, but his dream nail dialogue really gives an important window into his logic. If a hunter knows that a beast is stronger than they are, they know better than to try and hunt it.
I really hope Silksong has a Hunter-like character that we can fight, just to get an idea of how the Hunter would’ve fought. Unlike the Knight, Hornet could feasibly agree to spar with someone.
I liked you didn’t have to fight the Hunter. Considering all the enemies you had to defeat multiple times. Which requires numerous backtracking, the potential missable fossils, and the hours of gameplay ensuing to get to this point. The hunter is like: “You dedicated your time to this, I don’t want to fight you. You’ve earned the reward.” The boss music abruptly cutting is the icing on the cake.
Yeah, this is super missable. It looks like you have to do it while on the hunter's hand before picking up Hunter's Mark. It also is interesting that the Hunter seems to entertain the idea of being hunted by the Knight, though I can't quite understand why. The hunter hunts physically, but also do so to hunt for knowledge of the creature's he kills. So maybe to the Hunter, a desire to be hunted is a desire to be understood.
I think it's because they love hunting per se, and want to know the power of others. For example, they "proved their beasts' strength". I think they want to see the Knight fighting, and specially if it's against themself
Do keep in mind, The Hunter has trained beasts to hunt with him, only to turn on them in the midst of a hunt out of curiosity of the beasts strength. The Hunter has Also wondered what his insides taste like, and notably has tried stalking the intelligent lives in Hallownest (Hornet and The Collector, for instance.) It's not beyond imagination that he may have been interested in seeing the Knights combat himself, though it's most likely a thing that Team Cherry Wanted to implement but never got to (as others pointed out, hand animating that many leaves would cause madness.)
@@ErrorNumber404you can even tell the little bit of animation the hunter did get... feels off. Like, they didn't make the typical animation set for him to follow, and it instead looks more like they drew.. three total key pose of him landing, roaring, and standing. All made of seperate parts they could wiggle around to make it look animated
Even after finding out we killed godlike beings and the hunter still is in doubt that are we stronger then him and still hopes that we come after him meaning he's longing for a fight to the death with us who killed beings like god. Like it makes me feel like he's absolutely very strong he would've been in godhome as a boss pls put the hunter boss fight in silksong if it ever comes out
That kills the hunter, as a character. The hunter has expressed in the hunter’s journal that he finds that fighting for honour and pride useless. He only fights to hunt. The hunter doesn’t want to hunt what’s stronger than him.
@@FatFetus37He doesn't say hunting for pride and honour is useless. There's an important line you missed "...you may as well be fighting for dust". Which means that you don't need to have a motive for killing stuff.
Guys, the hunter is genuinely scared of the knight because he completed the journal and he want to keep peace between them but also hopes to fight us like cloth
I just hope that the hunters is our journal in silksong too and that we can fight him, I'd love it if he said something like regrettons that the knight wasn the one to kill him
@@jojiravi700 Its plausible but it would be weird for hornet to just quit hallownest, I think the reason she was there all along was because of her Mother and because she wanted to protect hallownest from the infection if the hollow knight escaped
@@jojiravi700Silksong is probably a sequel because in the comic Quirrel which is probably Canon don't quote me we can see hornet still inside hallownest and we know she never left past this point. We also know hornet was born during the infections spread due to being born as the bargain between the pale king and herrah the beast and trained with the wasp queen at a later age. We can tell that hornet looks the same between the silksong trailer and her appearance in hollow knight meaning If this was a prequel this would have to happen a bit before the quirrels appearance because he came before the knight and both fought, but she is the protector of hollow nest and has no reason to leave hallowenest unless the infection were to dissappear in some way like if someone like the knight were to come and stop it's spread. These small bugs escorting hornet in the cage are way too weak to capture hornet or even survive in the crossroads assuming hornet was in the crossroads because they definetly wouldn't survive anywhere else in hollow nest. So if this were to be a prequel it would need some things to happen It must take place between the period where hornet is at the same age as shown due to the identical image of hornet in both games, and before qurriel arrives in hollow nest There must be some reason for hornet to leave hollow nest because there is no way for those bugs to come down and capture hornet even if they used those Lumafly like bugs to capture her And lastly there would need to be a reason for hornet to lose all her abilities and equipment because she clearly isn't able to use any of this except for her spike balls and some other techniques. If this were a sequel then hornet would not only have a reason to leave because she no longer has anything to protect due to the fall of the infection she would also be more likely to be captured due to the storms outside of hollow nest wearing her down. There are still some mysteries that can't confirm whether silksong is a prequel or a sequel like if it was a sequel how could she escape black egg if all endings are Canon and how could she get caught if she was protecting hollow nest and it was a prequel. There are 2 endings where hornet can easily leave, dream no more and the hollow knight 2 other ones where it might be harder for her like embrace the void and delicate flower And then there is sealed siblings which would make it impossible for hornet to leave Delicate flower and embrace the void might be fine if the infection is gone and the pure vessel is back to normal but it is not confirmed if the pure vessel is hostile or not. Considering this if hollow knight is a sequel and team cherry has to pick which ending is Canon there is a 80% it's one where hornet can leave the black egg. My theory is hornet leaves the black egg and ventures out of hallow nest In search of a new kingdom or village with living creatures due to the storms she takes shelter nearby pharloom but still outside and not in sight where she is captured and put in a cage in her sleep where the next events are seen in the trailer. But this could be wrong of course because I'm only one person and there are still many mysteries we don't know.
@@yousseftamer4943 sorry I misunderstood, I thought you meant that you dream nailed the Hunter before speaking to him to inform him that you finished the journal
Hunter Modded boss would be epic I think he would fight similar to traitor lord but Smarter and be Faster (and probably the only boss able to do 3 damage)
@@DavidAbdullerimov Infection occurs upon getting wings OR killing a dreamer, and you can fairly easily kill Lurien without any upgrades besides dash and claw. Besides, I wouldn’t be surprised if you could get all those infected enemies without infecting the crossroads just by finding them elsewhere (infected vengeflies exist in the colosseum, for example)
It's an achievement on Playstation at least, so you need to complete it for the trophy. But no it does not count towards %completion (neither does collecting entries to the hunter's journal)
@@Rambo_the_goat He does say some feats in the jornal. But honestly, the knight defeated all bosses and some gods, Hunter isn't strong enough for that
Everything is worth it in this game. It is still funny and rare to find people who are saying this game bad or worse, hating it... Overhearming positive game.
“I hope it tries”
LITERALLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE SIDE CHARACTERS
"i hope it tries" is such a badass line
Literally the same energy as "what if I didn't run? What if I want them to kill me? What if I want them to TRY"
And then walking away because bored a few seconds later
"What if I didn't run? What if Im not a coward? What if I want them to kill me? What if I want them to try?
Og quote for all interested
Said markiplier
@@EaterOfGeese So saith Lord E
Thus Spake Markuplier
I like that battle music starts but it’s genuinely a little scared so it doesn’t fight and just gives you your reward
I love how it also implies that the knight plays that music when it thinks its in really big danger
@@darkwolfstudioes does that mean we just walk with a jukebox
@@boneatled Yes
Honestly, I know a lot of people were disappointed that there wasn't an actual Hunter fight, but his dream nail dialogue really gives an important window into his logic.
If a hunter knows that a beast is stronger than they are, they know better than to try and hunt it.
Or take the time to properly prepare
I really hope Silksong has a Hunter-like character that we can fight, just to get an idea of how the Hunter would’ve fought. Unlike the Knight, Hornet could feasibly agree to spar with someone.
“Huntress”
An actual confirmed character in silkson.
@@Jonrocks7 When Silksong comes out, I hope that I'm still alive to play It.
I liked you didn’t have to fight the Hunter.
Considering all the enemies you had to defeat multiple times. Which requires numerous backtracking, the potential missable fossils, and the hours of gameplay ensuing to get to this point.
The hunter is like:
“You dedicated your time to this, I don’t want to fight you. You’ve earned the reward.”
The boss music abruptly cutting is the icing on the cake.
"I don't want to fight you" he literally thinks he hopes you try to fight him.
And he thinks we are stronger than him. I am not but others are especially speed runners that 💯 the game
I want the modding community to make a modded hunter boss fight, if we can get the pale court with FUCKING TISO, we can get a hunter fight
Implies Tiso didn’t deserve an actual fight in the base game, both of them did
This boss would be better than winged nosk
true
The battle would end with you seeing his dreamnail dialogue
That's what you'd get out of it
anything would be better than winged nosk
@@TheUnknownLettuce based
thought this said miserable at first, took me several tries to read it properly
TBF, it can be pretty miserable to get sometimes.
same bro
I think he's just taunting the knight at this point
He wants a challenge
Hes a hunter after all
Also he doesnt know u can read his mind
Reminds me of Kraven from Spiderman 2.
I like how the music abruptly distorts and fades out when he reveals the prize. 👌
Team Cherry were PLAYING me at that point😭😭
Yeah, this is super missable. It looks like you have to do it while on the hunter's hand before picking up Hunter's Mark.
It also is interesting that the Hunter seems to entertain the idea of being hunted by the Knight, though I can't quite understand why. The hunter hunts physically, but also do so to hunt for knowledge of the creature's he kills.
So maybe to the Hunter, a desire to be hunted is a desire to be understood.
I think it's because they love hunting per se, and want to know the power of others. For example, they "proved their beasts' strength". I think they want to see the Knight fighting, and specially if it's against themself
Do keep in mind, The Hunter has trained beasts to hunt with him, only to turn on them in the midst of a hunt out of curiosity of the beasts strength. The Hunter has Also wondered what his insides taste like, and notably has tried stalking the intelligent lives in Hallownest (Hornet and The Collector, for instance.) It's not beyond imagination that he may have been interested in seeing the Knights combat himself, though it's most likely a thing that Team Cherry Wanted to implement but never got to (as others pointed out, hand animating that many leaves would cause madness.)
More so he could be a battle junkie.
@@chanmandeath2993they animated massive moss charger and decided to never do that again
@@ErrorNumber404you can even tell the little bit of animation the hunter did get... feels off. Like, they didn't make the typical animation set for him to follow, and it instead looks more like they drew.. three total key pose of him landing, roaring, and standing. All made of seperate parts they could wiggle around to make it look animated
I love how it feels like he's gonna fight us but instantly stops
Probably because he knows he’d lose in this moment. If he had time to prepare should the knight try later… who knows XD
I love how the music false knight just distorts to nothing
It’s the false knight’s music for a false battle.
I 100% steel soul, one of the reasons why I decided to do it was so I could read this criminally missable dialogue.
I find absolutely hilarious that Godseeker considers the Massive Moss Charger a God, and not this guy.
Even Zote, to an extent.
Don’t forget obblobles and soul warrior
Thats because the godhome lore is dumb
The godseeker crowns only the beings the Knight fought since it is the last sentient thing in Hallownest to sense the radiance.
@@massgunner4152 What about the nailmasters and Sheo?
Why did i read it as "your peanut let me see it"
not just a hunter hes a predator too
@@EirPlen my new favorite cursed comment
@@EirPlenFunniest comment ive seen bruh
that's just really cool and yeah I bet most people missed this - myself included
I was hoping for a hunter friendly fight!
I don't think the hunter knows what a friendly fight is lol
He's the Saint Ishin of hallownest lol
because of the false knight music you could say its a...
False Fight
wow
An your always in a cave so it can always be a
False night
its only a matter of time before some one mods a hunter boss into reality
I read “missable” as “miserable” 😭
Same bruh 😭
@@MohnJarstonWasThere1907 Good to know I am not the only one 😅
Same bro
Same...
SAME
I hope that someone make a boss fight for him
Even after finding out we killed godlike beings and the hunter still is in doubt that are we stronger then him and still hopes that we come after him meaning he's longing for a fight to the death with us who killed beings like god. Like it makes me feel like he's absolutely very strong he would've been in godhome as a boss pls put the hunter boss fight in silksong if it ever comes out
Reread Dumbo. He isn't in doubt, he blatantly knows you are stronger. He outright thinks it. He just wasn't us to try and kill him.
Also I'm pretty sure he didn't even know who the radiance was so he probably don't know about God home
@@personwhoexistsprobaly most of the bosses are unaware of god home they literally get summoned and they think its a dream
@@badroboudjerda4394 you learn something new everyday also I just beat pantheon 5 a week ago
@@personwhoexistsprobaly expect grim and hornet is not really aware because she is half higher being
We need the hunter in Silksong
If it's a prequel it should yern for something as strong as the void or darkness unknowing he'll meet him later😊
First we need Sliksong
There should be an optional Hunter boss fight afterwards that doesn’t kill him
Like with dung defender, maybe you can dream fight him
That kills the hunter, as a character. The hunter has expressed in the hunter’s journal that he finds that fighting for honour and pride useless. He only fights to hunt. The hunter doesn’t want to hunt what’s stronger than him.
@@FatFetus37He doesn't say hunting for pride and honour is useless. There's an important line you missed "...you may as well be fighting for dust". Which means that you don't need to have a motive for killing stuff.
Guys, the hunter is genuinely scared of the knight because he completed the journal and he want to keep peace between them but also hopes to fight us like cloth
Naw hunter isn't scared, just impressed. Lives for the hunt, and whether we kill them or they kill us it would be a worthy fight.
THANK YOU, ITS BEEN TAUNTING ME FOR SO LONG AND I FINALLY KNOW
I hope we will seen him in Pantheon someday... Yes? We will? Please say we will...
OH NO
HK has had its final update tho
@@V1_the_scugsilksong secret boss
@@chinchillaphage6 tru
@@chinchillaphage6 He did try to hunt Hornet at some point. Maybe he'll try again?
We can fight Sly, of all characters, but not hunter?
Well he's the Great Nailsage, you would be hard pressed to find people as strong in combat as him in the Kingdom Of Hallownest.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
@@YashRakeshGawadeYou would expect someone experienced in combat against nearly every enemy in Hallownest to be just as worthy of a fight as Sly is
You tell us, Godseeker
@@thegodseeker6035 Fair point. If Vengefly King can be a boss in Godhome then why not the Hunter? Guess we cannot have everything 😞.
I just hope that the hunters is our journal in silksong too and that we can fight him, I'd love it if he said something like regrettons that the knight wasn the one to kill him
i want him in silksong too the hunter is my favorite character, that being said it feels unlikely
silksong has to be a prequel no? Or else sealed siblings cant be a true ending.
@@jojiravi700 Its plausible but it would be weird for hornet to just quit hallownest, I think the reason she was there all along was because of her Mother and because she wanted to protect hallownest from the infection if the hollow knight escaped
@@jojiravi700 i think sealed siblings seems like the least likely canon (im also 80% sure skong is a sequel)
@@jojiravi700Silksong is probably a sequel because in the comic Quirrel which is probably Canon don't quote me we can see hornet still inside hallownest and we know she never left past this point.
We also know hornet was born during the infections spread due to being born as the bargain between the pale king and herrah the beast and trained with the wasp queen at a later age.
We can tell that hornet looks the same between the silksong trailer and her appearance in hollow knight meaning If this was a prequel this would have to happen a bit before the quirrels appearance because he came before the knight and both fought, but she is the protector of hollow nest and has no reason to leave hallowenest unless the infection were to dissappear in some way like if someone like the knight were to come and stop it's spread.
These small bugs escorting hornet in the cage are way too weak to capture hornet or even survive in the crossroads assuming hornet was in the crossroads because they definetly wouldn't survive anywhere else in hollow nest.
So if this were to be a prequel it would need some things to happen
It must take place between the period where hornet is at the same age as shown due to the identical image of hornet in both games, and before qurriel arrives in hollow nest
There must be some reason for hornet to leave hollow nest because there is no way for those bugs to come down and capture hornet even if they used those Lumafly like bugs to capture her
And lastly there would need to be a reason for hornet to lose all her abilities and equipment because she clearly isn't able to use any of this except for her spike balls and some other techniques.
If this were a sequel then hornet would not only have a reason to leave because she no longer has anything to protect due to the fall of the infection she would also be more likely to be captured due to the storms outside of hollow nest wearing her down.
There are still some mysteries that can't confirm whether silksong is a prequel or a sequel like if it was a sequel how could she escape black egg if all endings are Canon and how could she get caught if she was protecting hollow nest and it was a prequel.
There are 2 endings where hornet can easily leave, dream no more and the hollow knight
2 other ones where it might be harder for her like embrace the void and delicate flower
And then there is sealed siblings which would make it impossible for hornet to leave
Delicate flower and embrace the void might be fine if the infection is gone and the pure vessel is back to normal but it is not confirmed if the pure vessel is hostile or not.
Considering this if hollow knight is a sequel and team cherry has to pick which ending is Canon there is a 80% it's one where hornet can leave the black egg.
My theory is hornet leaves the black egg and ventures out of hallow nest In search of a new kingdom or village with living creatures due to the storms she takes shelter nearby pharloom but still outside and not in sight where she is captured and put in a cage in her sleep where the next events are seen in the trailer.
But this could be wrong of course because I'm only one person and there are still many mysteries we don't know.
I had 8000 geos and died
AFTER THIS I FVKIN DIED AGAIN
What?
8000 what?
Probably geos
@@mrmr_theoriginal geo
That’s 4 runs of trial of the conquerer, you can make that back in less than an hour 🤣
Dude he turns into an actual jpeg this is hilarious lmao
BRUH NO WAYY I DIDN'T KNOW THIS
I should consider myself lucky that I dream nailed this guy before I got the hunter mark
What did it say?
@@youngmissalex9308 Bro, the video is right there.
@@yousseftamer4943 sorry I misunderstood, I thought you meant that you dream nailed the Hunter before speaking to him to inform him that you finished the journal
@@youngmissalex9308 Oh, if you do that, it's the same dream nail dialouge you usually get.
@@yousseftamer4943 oh okay, thank you
i would love an boss fight with the hunter
nah this is better
Frisk and Flowey at the Genocide be like:
Hunter Modded boss would be epic I think he would fight similar to traitor lord but Smarter and be Faster (and probably the only boss able to do 3 damage)
Ok this community is full of Masochists
@@CapedCrusader1234What no Silksong does to a mf
Sadly yes@@Krawberry
White defender can deal 3 masks
@@Maskiocj13 so can zote but I mean naturally from the start
Would have been fun to have a boss fight
As pantheon
nah this is better
woah, he's seriously so cool
adobe churro
Based.
SHIVERS BRO
The music gimmick is cute, but the reward sucks.
The reward is the satisfaction of being the APEX PREDATOR of Hallownest
@@Orionartz08Maybe the real reward is the journal entries we made along the way.
@@Sushi-Boy1 Yeah, and its funny how i recently got the achievement for the first time ever, but I'm more impressed that I've KILLED, EVERYTHING
*Boss music play*
OH SHIT...wait nvm
If you somehow manage to complete the hunter’s journal without ever getting wings or cdash is that room at the end just a straight up soft-lock?
Ooo, that’s an experiment to try! It does look to be a mighty huge gap that requires one of those abilities.
you most likely cant complete the journal but maybe you can. I need to look into it to give a definite conclusion
You need infected versions of mobs so no
@@DavidAbdullerimov Infection occurs upon getting wings OR killing a dreamer, and you can fairly easily kill Lurien without any upgrades besides dash and claw. Besides, I wouldn’t be surprised if you could get all those infected enemies without infecting the crossroads just by finding them elsewhere (infected vengeflies exist in the colosseum, for example)
you can always quit to respawn in your last bench
This is real?
@@luispazo818 Eyup! This is the PS4 version, so any modding would be highly unlikely. Besides, I have no idea how to mod, especially a console XD
wait you guys didnt get this?
Does the hunters mark actually do anything
No but I think it was necessary for 100%?
It's an achievement on Playstation at least, so you need to complete it for the trophy. But no it does not count towards %completion (neither does collecting entries to the hunter's journal)
Other than indicate that You spend Way too much time desolate diving in dirtmouth's well... No.
@@josmarrubenbodan3906 if you mean that as a way to kill menderbug, he doesn't count for Hunter's Mark 😅
@@voidgods it's not about the mark, it's about the principle
Otome churro
Donut
nice
Tbh hunter solos the knight
0 feats to debate the topic so the knight dogwalks
@@Rambo_the_goat He does say some feats in the jornal.
But honestly, the knight defeated all bosses and some gods, Hunter isn't strong enough for that
"Hunter solos the knight"
Hunter: "its stronger than me"
The hunter isn’t hoping the knight comes back so he can kill it he wants the knight to kill him
I mean the knight manages to beat pantheon 5 and the hunter says that the knight is stronger than him
cool
mod name pls
Hollow knight: Hidden Dreams
It’s not a mod
@@Tuxmorlol
Hollow Knight silksong
@CowpokeScav he said mods, not fairytale
NO boss fight lame not worth it booooooo bad game 🙃🙃🙃
Everything is worth it in this game. It is still funny and rare to find people who are saying this game bad or worse, hating it...
Overhearming positive game.
@@wou5435its obviously sarcasm
@@wou5435, over... hearming? Overwhelming, mb?
This is real?
yeah it is
@@vincentini9183wait...really?
Yeah, I did it too @@huybuinhat5244
@@huybuinhat5244 Yep i just did it yesterday