I like how every SC player has their own reason for their specific fleet. Thats what I love about SC. My fleet is focused on checking all combat roles while having almost all ships with long range capabilities. I also own some ships for unique gameplay loops. - Raven (stealth combat support, scouting) - Fury (snub combat) - Archimedes Emerald (racing) - Merlin (racing) - Gladius (light dogfighter) - Defender (only long range light to medium dogfighter in SC) - Vanguard Sentinel (hacking, medium combat) - Andromeda (heavy combat, piracy) - Retaliator bomber (sub-capital to capital combat) - Zeus Bounty Hunter (bounty hunting and piracy) - 600i Explorer (smallest explorer with med bay) - MSR (data running, smuggling) I never thought about big multi crew ships since I want to have ingame goals. But I have the Endeavor master set in buyback just in case. Also heavy industrial gameplay loops are not for me but i can see why lots of people like that.
Forgot to include the base Furx LX. Love racing and with three great racers I'm all set for that gameplay loop. Also, the Andromeda can transport two of my racers at once. Merlin in back and Fury LX in cargo bay.
This year is my first year on Star Citizen expect for one free fly weekend in like 2020, and I've already bought 4 ships and plan to buy more. Currently I have the Galaxy w/ Cargo Module, Zeus Mk. 2 MR, Syulen, Cutter Rambler. All of my ships have LTI and spent a grand total of $800+. Not ashamed to say I've spent that much either. This is a game I've had my eye on for a very long time, and now is the perfect time to be playing it.
@Tr2w Still good. If I knew I was going to regret it, I wouldn't have bought them to begin with. Is there context to that question or are you just asking out of curiosity?
@@NomadHorizon just curiosity. sometimes people make impulse purchases and regret em later. seen it somewhat often in SC. glad ur not one of those people.
@@Tr2w With SC, I buy logically. What will I use the craft for? How much is it in comparison to similar craft? These are questions I take into mind before i purchase a ship. Only ship ive bought with impulse was the Syulen, only because the ship was dope looking. Ive since melted it though.
I think the Vulture is my favourite ship (and I have over 60). Just love that it's like a piece of big ol' industrial machinery, love salvaging, it's workmanlike and has everything you need, esp with the new internal storage.
Nice ship fleet Farrister, i approve! All of your reasoning & thoughts behind the ships are clear to me. For me it was a similar thought process. I am in it for the long run, i have the following fleet: Starting from the smaller to bigger ships: 1) Drake Cutter Scout - For my small beginner style ship, to hopefully unlock scouting as a GamePlay Loop in the future. 2) Anvil C8R Medical Pisces - This one will always be with me, on my bigger ships. I love the idea behind a Small Shuttle with a Medical bed onboard, and a mobile ambulance! I`d love to have this ship in the Cargo Bay of my Galaxy at all times! 3) Crusader C1 Spirit - The looks! It just ticks all of the boxes i want, even for a possible Blockade Runner. Or at least an agile, Medium sized ship that can carry valuable cargo quickly. I have a token to the Zeus Mk II ES - for the future. 4) Drake Corsair - It is for me, in the Either Way category - as it might be replaced with another ship. Currently in-game it is my favorite daily driver. Sometimes i just take a ROC onboard & go mine planet side, other times i go for bounties & just overall enjoy the possibilities that come with this ship! 5) The RSI Galaxy - This will probably be my go to ship when it is released. Partly because i like the idea of a Modular ship that can do it all..... Partly because i love the esthetics of the ship & just think that it will be an amazing value to my fleet. I have an idea with the Galaxy Refinery module & an Arrastra for a profitable small time mining operation! Ran by no more than 3-4 People! This will definitely be my Go to daily driver when it is released. I am hoping that no matter what happens, this ship stays in a good spot for a possible: Cargo Hauler, a mobile small Hospital or a Refinery, maybe even something else entirely. I like the idea that one day i can be on Module "A" & then when i get "Bored" of that specific gameplay loop, i can swap out the module & play something else the next! 6) RSI Arrastra - will be my Do it ALL Mining ship. I do NOT want to go bigger than this. The ORION will be a beast that i cannot tame, not without a crew of at least 5-10 people. Or maybe even more. Especially after all of the systems come online in the future, i do not want to have too many headaches when mining out in the verse! 7) RSI Arrastra to Banu Merchantman upgrade - i am sitting on this one, i will decide in the future, once i have had my share of "Fun" on one of the ships & will be probably upgrading to the BMM, depending on how viable it will be as my Fleet`s center piece. It does seem like it can take on a bounty contract, with a dedicated fighter in the Landing bay on board, perhaps i can put an F8C or a RSI Scorpius or a Aegis Vanguard Harbringer, maybe even others. But definitely will be the ship i consider as the END game for me. Id like to have a ship that has ample cargo, decent armament, some other function than Combat.... And the BMM ticks all of that for me. And the LOOKS! Oh yes, it definitely wins in the style department for me! :) 8) Combat ships i will usually buy in-game. Other industrial ships will always be a goal for me in-game. Bigger cargo - again all in-game purchases. - As a SQ42 backer i hope to get the F8C Lightning in the future, use it as my dedicated 1 seater combat ship. I will stay on the lookout for a ship that is a Heavy Figher class, similar to the Vanguard series - with a small internal space, but has decent armor, firepower & mobility. If not i will get a Vanguard in the future. That is all, thanks if you read this! o7
Fantastic! My current fleet consists of: F8C lightning Anvil Arrow Vulture Constellation Taurus I hope to one day serve as a fighter escort for your Javelin! Cheers
I’m a hauler through and through so my fleet is centered around the Hull C which is the concept that captured my attention in 2015 when I first backed. Then comes the Caterpillar, Freelancer Max, Cutter Rambler and Scout, and a Cargo MPUV. I think I need to add a Connie Taurus to the mix next. Thanks for a great year of vids Farrister!
How excited are you for the cargo hauling missions coming with the Distribution Centres? To clarify: I love doing delivery missions, but would like to see the upgrade to bigger boxes (whatever size of SCU, just no more hand boxes), but I don't really like the trading gameplay loop
@@PvtDamion can’t wait for those and the persistent hangars. Then someday (fingers crossed) the base building component will be complete and this space trucker will be a happy camper.
Generally, I don't buy fighters, or vehicles, as they're super cheap in-game (relatively) and I see them as disposable items, but I do upgrade referral rewards to something fairly cheap, as I don't need a bunch of Hoverquads and Auroras. I try not to duplicate function, but for the most part, I like to cover all my bases, and sometimes buy something simply because I like it (600i). Sometimes I'll buy something for an early look, then return it for credit. I want my initial launch experience to be as grounded as possible, and retain a reason to do early game content, like deliveries, cave mining, etc. So I tend to stick to buying end-game ships, that I won't be using for some time, as I figure end-game content will be costly enough, even without the cost of the ship, and having LTI will be an advantage, regardless of how it may change in the future, and that's where the advantage will matter most.
@@michaelsmith953 I feel this method is opposite to many. Doing my best to no kill the reason to do early game content and earn my way up for that sense of achievement. I don't expect we'll be able to jump straight to the big ships at launch, due to the expense, resource, and crew requirements.
I can't wait to get my Odyssey some day. I'll pop my Inferno in it and maybe an MPUV or two. It's more big picture when you can really get *lost* in the Star Map one day, but nonetheless i'm chugging Hopeium™ for a 24' release. I'd love to crew your Javelin one day as well. Multi-crew is going to be so insane fleshed out!
The Vulture really speaks to me for a very specific reason... It has almost the exact same layout of the Pegasus class of ships from the Gundam franchise.
My fleet recently shifted and I reduced the size of my ships. My flag, the MSR went into a Harbinger (tho seemingly my name reservation remains :D) as it fits more my solo run around do missions of mixed kinds more. Has heavy armor and armament and still can be my home away from home. My Vulture went back to being a Prospector as I really enjoy the solo and silent nature of the Aaron ring mining. Sitting out there with nobody to bother me. My others are a MAX for transporting goods and mined/refined goods, or vehicles when I feel like it. And the lovely Herald as my data runner sneaky stay off the radar ship for when Pyro hits. (And a pulse bike... :3)
This is a great video, really useful to get perspective on ship choices. Balanced and informative as always Farrister Edit: but I'll always choose the Ion over the Inferno!
Imho, it is to soon for me to talk about personal fleet. My current goal of High Admiral has been reached, and what I keep as my daily flyers, are ships that I really like currently, and that sit somewhere in my ccu chains. What I like to have in my current hangar is; One solo ship with 1 or 2 big guns(Currently a Scythe). One ship that can carry at least a cyclone(I think that's a C1 now, though often changing) . One racing ship (currently Fury LX) and Syulen because it looks amazing and is fun to fly. Ships I really like to own in the future but not must haves are: Pioneer, Nautilus, Endeavor and Polaris. I'll prob own a Nautilus one day, and I'd love for my other large ship to be Endeavor, since there should no lack of Pioneer and Capital size combat ships in the verse.
I'm quite happy with my fleet as it is currently. It feels complete to me and covers all of the current interests I have for both singleplayer and multicrew gameplay. The full list of ships and reasoning for me is: - Hoverquad. Gravlevs are nice versatile vehicles you can take with you everywhere and deploy anywhere. While I know the other gravlevs might be more capable in a fight, I don't need mine to fight and I actually quite like the hoverquad's style. - STV. An almost perfect general purpose buggy for me. Small, fast, onboard storage, and a passenger seat. The only thing it lacks is room for a third 1/8th SCU box since most delivery missions need you to take three boxes. - 100i. My original starter and a nice shuttle with good fuel efficiency that I can use to pick up frends or boxes. - Fury MX. The Fury series in general is a huge boost of nostalgia for me, reminding me of the extremely fast and nimble ships from the WipEout series. While the LX might fight the role of agile racer, I gotta admit I'm just a sucker for the MX's blast shield. - 325a. A pure vanity purchase. I wanted a fancy ship to fly around in and the 325a just happens to be a very fancy ship. It doesn't hurt that it's a pretty good generalist ship for solo play too. - M50. A no nonsense racing ship without compromise. - Razor LX. Where the M50 wins in the corners the Razor LX wins in the straights. Having both means I can always adapt to what's best for the current track. - Expanse. I see mining and refining as a great way to establish an economic foothold in less developed systems. I also see access to my own personal refinery a huge benefit for gathering the resources to keep my larger ships running. - Zeus Mk II CL. I like the history of the ship in lore and I see having a selection of midrange cargo haulers will be very useful in long range trading. Use the midrange traders to buy/sell planetside before consolidating cargo with a long range trader so that you don't need to risk your full load at the most vulnerable parts of your journey. - Prospector. Gotta have something to gather the raw materials to keep my larger ships going, and as it is I don't feel like I need to go any bigger to a Mole or Arrastra. - Gladiator. My current all time favourite combat ship. I love its retro looks and how its quite stealthy with the right loadout. The potential for modularity also excites me. - Vulture. Where the Prospector is for ore, the Vulture is for salvage. Having both greatly improves my opportunities when it comes to resource gathering. - Railen. Another mid-range trader to fill the same role as my Zues Mk II allowing me to keep a presence in multiple trading hubs without needing to constantly move my ships back and forth with me, but also a roleplay ship. A good captain needs to be able to impress their guests when negotiating trade deals and how better to deal with Xi'an clients than to show my own appreciation for their crafts and traditions. - Constellation Andromeda. My smuggler and blockade runner of choice. Few ships are less suspicious than a Constellation, but the Andromeda still has the firepower to deal with people who still try to stick their noses in. And the snub is nice if things go to plan B. - Apollo Triage. If I'm planning on spending time out in the frontier, it's important to have the essentials covered. And there are few things more essential than staying healthy. - Corsair. Another midsize trader and another RP ship, this time for dealing with people who need to be pursuaded by the barrel of a gun... or several. - 400i. Another RP ship, this time for passengers that demand luxury (and good wine). - Starfarer. A heavy cargo ship able to carry fuel as cargo. Not only does this present new economic opportunities but it also helps cover another essential need when I'm in the frontier. - Caterpillar. My current all-time favourite ship in the verse and a just about do-it-all trader. The only things it can't really do is fuel trading and vehicle hauling, but even those are potentially doable with future updates to the ship. - Crucible. Covering the last of the essentials while in the frontier and also a pretty versatile carrier with its scarab bay. - and lastly the Hull-C. *The* long range trader of my fleet, and the carrier of potentially all sorts of other goodies.
@@Farrister It certainly doesn't compare with having a Javelin, but I doubt I'd get quite the same use out of a Javelin than someone like you who has their own Org.
Thanks for the video, very interesting and well written. My fleet at the moment consists of : C8 Pisces medical Scorpius 600i exploration Really looking forward to the exploration gameplay
Good video, I also got a bunch of ships for different game loops because I don't have enough time to play and get them in-game. I believe that this problem will always exist so increasing the price of a ship when it's released or reworked is a bit unfair to future players who didn't get the ships at the first opportunity. I'm not talking about FOMO, I'm talking about people who will join in the future having to pay sometimes a lot more to get the same as everyone before.
@@Farrister Indeed, by the time there will be no more wipes many of the current players will have far less time to grind in-game. When ship prices skyrocket to the hundred of millions and the economy won't allow for quick money making schemes earning it all in-game will be so much harder. So CIG telling everyone that they only need a starter pack but then change the rules down the road and also make it more expensive to switch to the other option...
My fleet, 100i mostly for the looks and it is size 1, my starter ship. 325a my fighter, Aurora mr just cause, 600i Explorer, Lynx and a couple other ground vehicles. Do love the Origin ships. Lynx and 600 explorer are LTI.
I like this video format, cant be dont to often ofc but i like it as i see how people figgure out their own fleet just like i do. Maybe you could take guests and discuss fleet setups as you already shown yours.
as of right now my fleet consists of: cutter: any solo whatever that i don't rly have a plan for Zeus mkII MR: solo/small multicrew combat/bounties, + I like the look of it Galaxy: larger multicrew whatever, no real plan for what to do, bunkers, bounties, medical, you name it Perseus/Polaris: large crew murder fun times. got the perseus with a ccu to the polaris in case the perseus ends up being too comicly weak to fighters, which it is looking like it might, or if the polaris ends up being super amazing.
It's an interesting idea - I don't think that's been a conscious development change, but just the evolution of (some) player expectations due to theorycrafting, hype etc.
@@Farrister exactly. CIG I think still think of it as man and his ship. but so many of us now have fleets, that for US it has become that. and merits some discussion
I started playing Star Citizen a month ago and I'm already hooked up to it. Loving it. That's why, you sir, have become one of my favourite channels. These type of videos you make are extremely useful. I ended up here looking for ship reviews and stuff related to Star Citizen; really like how you edit your videos, their content and your speech pace, which makes you very enjoyable to watch when you're chilling at home. I always come to your channel before I purchase any ship, to check your review and, should you convince me, eventually buy them. So thanks for your time and effort you put in your channel! You got another faithful subscriber here. ;) P.S.: I really loved the C1 Spirit,.It's definitely on my list to buy. The moment I saw her I felt in love, as it reminds me a lot to the SSV Normandy SR-2 from Mass Effect; at least, its style.
You have a well balanced Armada of ships. I cant imagin the logistics, cost and support a ship like that will need, that alone strategic planning. I havent seen any videos on ''How to plan for a big fleet battle''. It would be interesting if CIG set up some certifications for Commanders, who once qualified, could lend their expertise to orgs and groups, otherwise it'll be total mayhem?. Kudos for sharing
I collected all the resource gathering and logistics service ships for this game. They will all be put into my main orgs user pool for other trusted player to captain when they need their capital ships serviced or a new base built. I plan on living out of just one of my ships, a Constellation Aquila for the short term and the Carrack as the game matures with NPC crews/ship operations blades for the ships computer. I plan on playing ship engineer or damage controller on someone else's capital during military ops.
Interesting to see how its changed, thanks for sharing. My fleet is very much looking to the future and centers around the Odyssey and supporting ships for industrial exploration/planetary survey. Resource exploitation, and (to a lesser degree) outpost construction to support this is my focus. I operate under the assumption we will have to travel to the fringes of known space or beyond to find the good stuff.
The quality of your elocution is outstanding on youtube. In English, your videos are the only one for which i don't need subtitles (I am French). They are a proof that the English language can be beautiful when spoken properly, you could be an amazing audiobook reader. :) Great fleet though !
I've invested a bit of cash in the game as well and these are my go-to (probably will never sell them either): MISC Prospector, Drake Caterpillar, Aegis Reclaimer, Crusader C1. Being mostly a miner/salvager, this combo will make the most out of my gameplay. I use the Spirit as a shuttle or to tackle the occasional bunker missions. Don't really need anything else, the industrial gameplay loop is simply amazingly complex.
I have only 2 ships in my "bought" fleet. Drake Cutter and Esperia Talon. Cutter: My small Campervan. Its perfect to just fly around the verse to explore and look at stuff as it offers equipment for all the survival mechanics. It will be paired with a Ranger TR that extends range into "no fly zones" whenever that ones releases. For now I use it as a bunker shuttle and Taxi. Talon: My light and agile support fighter. The currently intended size 4 guns would allow me to attack bigger ships the other fighters cant down the road. I chose it because I wanted an alien ship as my secondary and at regular 115$ its not as overpriced (and I got about 25$ CCU discount). I use it as a bunker shuttle, for combat beacons and racing. Ingame ships: I usually buy a Corsair to do some light cargo hauling with either bought cargo or refined materials. I also enjoy using ir for high tier combat beacons as equiped with AD5B ballistic repeaters it shreds through the large ships. Other than that I usually only rent ships. Rental Prospector, rental Phoenix, rental Razor, rental 600i explorer are my go to ships.
@@Farrister Yeah I do to little mining to justify buying one for aUEC (and possibly losing it to an update). A rental for 20k is payed off after one load so I start making profit from that point on. And as soon as cargo elevators are a thing it becomes even more profitable. I can just buy a mininglaser I like, take the one of the rental off with a tractorbeam and put mine on. Salavge a Mole for its bags and swap those on aswell and I got a customized prospector for 20k a day. Before the rental period ends I just swap back to the rentals original parts and put my own stuff in storage until I rent another prospector.
I wish I could say the same for the few ships I have used real money for, as opposed to the ones I have bought with aUEC!! Though I will say the general motif has been industrial/haulage MORE than Military/PvP.
You have a solid fleet. There's a gap for some combat or multirole medium to large ships for small group play but that's how the fleet gets overly large. And perhaps one of those concierge-style fleet pictures might serve well in the end of the video as a summary.
I like his opinion on you dont need as many ships as these as i own myself a 53 vehicles XD, my intent is to be something like a ship loaner while keep certain ships for myself and friends or orgs i am in
Can’t wait to see the Javelin in action. I just hope it’s not too long of a wait. :0 I could see it in a convoy with a ton of fighters and haulers. Awesomeness!!!
I have my starter ship, an Avenger Titan and I have my 'Millennium Falcon' ... a Freelancer MIS. Any multicrew play is aboard someone else's ship. People who own larger ships are always looking for crew, so why wouldn't I? 90% of my gameplay is solo and if I want to solo salvage, (for example) it only takes a few bunkers to earn enough to buy a Vulture in game. Keeping it simple and being someone else's crew is the best option for me. 👨🏼🚀
I bought the Polaris recently and I'm excited to test her in late 2024. Also I needed a medium bounty hunting ship with prison pods, so I grabbed the Zeus MR
I don’t know why You Tube creators when chatting about this game fail to express that there is NO big corporation of game house behind RSI. Without support from the audience buying ships we wouldn’t get this game. No EA or Bethesda or whoever is going to support the creation of a game like this. Not only is it too long term for them, and doesn’t help their bottom line quick enough, it’s too complicated. The want to add new maps to old COD and tell you that’s what you want. So if no one bought ships, this game doesn’t exist…. And to further express the chinceyness of those who say never use real money….. the amount of money they’ve raised at this point is almost enough to film the 2 Avengers Endgame movies. It actually isn’t much for entertainment these days. On average currently it’s just over 100 bucks per supporter. COD players spend more for one COD and the add ones for it…..then they buy another every year. Sometimes 2…. Everyone needs to stop being cheap, support the game if you want great entertainment. Also, the Farister makes great vids. Keep ‘em coming man!!
For sure, there is no game out there with the sheer scope of Star Citizen. I have no issue putting 1000+ into this project over the past 4 years,as I love to support this Bonkers project
Haha thanks. I think people have to decide what works for them, nobody should feel like they *have* to buy extra ships to support development or play the game. But many do, and if that's an informed conscious decision, that's fine too :)
For me all my ships are at the higher ends of each respective gameplay loops while also being solo or small group friendly. I personally don’t want to involve myself in anything bigger than the merchantman as that is my biggest ship and having to work with a large group isn’t my forte. But something smaller like a group of 1-6 is perfect along with the fact that working down is easier than working up.
always love ur content. my SC career starts with a Nomad which was 70 dollar when i bought it with the game. Absolutely love the Nomad since such a small package can bring so much more gameplay than other starter ships. The Nomad is no longer with me anymore, i replaced it with the C1 for good looking, nice cargo space and it just hit that sweet spot in terms of size, firepower and utility as a solo ship. and last is my F8C lighting, for me i consider it as a Horrible purchase when it comes to how much this ship brings to me. but i am always a bounty hunter in heart, i love air combats i play DCS and WarThunder and i made my first 10Mil with bounty hunting so this F8 is more like a trophy and collection piece for me, and i absolutely love it.
you make some good points . I upgraded my Expanse and Prospector for the Arrastra ( mole and prospector loaners ) as it can do both in one ship how easy or if at all possible to run solo only time will tell for me and my thoughts are like the Liberator ( to move ships around when we cant just claim them ) the Perseus ( Just because it looks so good ) when you take that Javelin out I could run a escort with the gun ship lol
I started Star Citizen a week ago with an Avenger Titan, and I've already fallen in love with the game. I plan to buy some snow next year, including a C1 Spirit, a Fighter and a ship with a specific function (Prospector or Vulture), as well as the ones I plan to get with money from the game itself
Impressive line-up. Until science gameplay is introduced, my line-up is already finalized with a Gladius for combat, a MSR for vice-running and (eventual) data-running, and a Carrack for cargo and (eventual) exploration.
Just started to play and I’m in love with this channel.. I have a question for @Farrister : if you have to choose one only ship to have LTI which one will be. It must be your backup if all things goes wrong and you have to start over
Thanks :) actually if I had to choose only 1 with LTI, it would be the most expensive, because that would be the hardest work if I lost access to it :D
Like you said, it's a personal decision. How can we judge your rationale on what you picked up? 🙂 My personal fleet is always in flux. If it were fixed I'd post it. I'm having trouble just picking my daily driver!
My fleet is as follows : Titan Renegade [ more because its looks, but also its cheap to spawn and keep running to make a tad starter cash.] Glaive, Vanguard Harbinger, Scorpius, Constilation Taurus, Corsair, 600I, I got a 600I to Perseus CCU on BuyBack once I got a bit more money and know more when the Perseus comes trough, I probably will either melt the Taurus or Corsair for it..... So I am more Combat focused, And Im gunna focus on Combat more, and do other in game loops with ships I bought in game :)
@@Farrister Eh, I will get rid of it once the Perseus gets close to release though, as I am more combat oriented, but them 3 size 5 hardpoints on the 600I Explorer do somne work on VHRT and ERT, and its a literal tank, the butt end of the ship is nearly unkillable
I'd love to crew your Javelin with you someday. So much to look forward to! This IAE I expanded my fleet quite a bit. I wound up with several concept ships, like the Polaris, Arrastra, Endeavor, Apollo, and Galaxy. The great thing about those particular ships is they all have loaners I really love. That makes a difference to me. Someday I hope to add a Kraken to my fleet, but...we'll see. :)
I plan to fly my Vulture around on my Liberator. This setup should allow me to comfortably fill the painful gap between the Vulture and Reclaimer for 1+ person operations, far extending the capacity and range of the salvage operation without having to contend with the "design" of the overgrown garbage bug. I don't think hunting bounties for salvage will work with this method, so I'm still figuring the offensive/defensive part out. Until then, this is a passive strategy.
I upgraded to a vulture from my Aurora, and bought a Zeus when it went up for sale! I'm not planning on playing much until closer to proper release, but I figured the two of these would provide a couple of different options to gameplay loops to earn money to try out the others, without getting bored of either, hopefully. I also have a cutter scout in my inventory that I don't recall ever buying, and I'm really not sure what I would use it for! Maybe best to upgrade it into a mining ship of some kind at some point?
For sure. I just have a couple based around my preferred gameplay (general violence, alone or with friends) and then pick a loop to grind a ship for and try out every patch or so. It's much more wallet friendly if you have the time lol I always work for the eclipse to blow through bounties with though. It's a very useful ship.
Focusing on my play style as it is, I have a C8R for Bunkers, surface bounties as it is fast easy, bonuses and enough storage for looted items during a game session. The C1 for light cargo and small vehical transport, and a CCU running to allow me to reach a heavy fighter over time testing out combate loops as I progress. And if I prefer a lighter ship in the end I will melt it and use that for a combat ship that I feel fits with my gaming focus.
I'm a little bit drawn on the topic, as everyone always says "You only need a starter ship" but the the same people that say that, also seem to have an extensive fleet, and I'm wondering how CIG will balance this differences in the community once they release. Some may argue that buying ships buys you an advantage over people who don't and some even consider this a form of pay to win or pay to progress. On the other hand the ship sales are what keeps CIG going, so others may argue that they only buy ships to support the project. I'm also curious what this will do to the "progress" in the game, as right now earning money ingame to buy bigger ships feels like a way of progressing, but if you already have the "endgame ship" on release, what progress could you still make? Would this lead to a form of "power creep" where CIG is forced to release better and better ships to artificially create a form of progress? Also is this a topic that spilts the community and will it create jealoussy between the starting player with a starter and the player with "disposable income"? Could this "fear of missing out", that marketing uses so heavily also lead to people getting into serious, financial trouble because they want to play along or compete with players that have extensive fleets? Or could this also deter new players from joining the game, if many or most players have a large fleet? That being all said, I also own more then a starter. I have a C8R as my daily Driver alone and a Freelancer MAX as starting cargo and multicrew ship.
I am one of those who says "you just need a starter ship" and then does the opposite, but I think that's because of my fairly unique situation in using other ships to make videos for people to enjoy. I'm probably less concerned with "progress" in game versus having a good experience with friends. There's also potentially an element of selectionism, where the most vocal people are the ones who spend the most, versus the "silent majority" who just have their single ship package. Maybe?
@@Farrister I understand, that as a content creator you want and may even need a bigger fleet to showcase ever possible game loop, but reading comments and watching twitch chats I get the imoression that the mayority of players own way more than just a starter, even though CIGs financial data suggests otherwise. Maybe it is the silent mayority. When it comes to progression in the game, I also want to have a good time with firends but a valid progression usually keeps players hooked for a longer time. Think "ah one more week of grind and I can finally buy the cool ship I was aiming for" VS 💳 just buying it. Other games have levels or reputation as a kind of progression, and I feel that because SC only has Ships and Reputation as a Progression right now, just buying ships may kill some of the possible progression
Interesting, I have a couple more ships, so have widened and enlarged my options just a bit. Seems we're about on similar ground. C1, C2, Nautilus, Hull-D, Crucible, Caterpillar, Cutty Black, MSR, C8R and, Endeavor. Planned to be the colider type. Which will fill my high crew count window. Even in skeleton crew, an endeavor with no additional ships around, isn't getting much done.
I hope to put The Hull, Cat and, Endeavors modularity to the test. I do consider another resource collector in the future. Since The Nautilus harvesting mines, may not always have a lucrative market. cargo is probably the main side loop in the game. For better and worse, logistics underpin every effort.
I am trying to hold off on committing to any ships until we are closer to release and more confident of what exactly each ship experience will be like. So instead I have a hangar full of CCU options and a spreadsheet to keep track of different "final fleet" possibilities 😅 That said, I always like to have a money maker and a general-purpose ship in my hangar for immediate use after a wipe - currently the Vulture and the C1 Spirit, but I'm not enjoying salvage much (a bit *too* sedate for me) so I'll probably switch back to a Prospector in future.
Very interesting fleet. Unfortunately this list is sadly deficient in Origin ships ;) This year has seen my own fleet grow to more than one ship, with the Syulen acting as great starting point to a grand CCU chain that should eventually lead to the 600i. Until then, I get probably around five years of flying other ships while waiting for more links in the chain. Do you work up towards big ships in-game currently (as in, to buy them with aUEC until the next wipe)?
When i started last year i went bit crazy and bought ships because of the cool factor. By IAE I'd decided to overhaul my fleet to be more useful for just about every gameloop existing or planned. I miss my Drakes but it didnt make much sense to hang on to them with much better alternatives out there.
Future game ballance definitely worries me as I don't want my favourite pledge ship to be unoptimal, especially since it's the redeemer, a pretty much only combat ship. But I know that's just cig and their clever marketing.
I’m noticing the Crusader Biased of your fleet, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. My fleet is more Origin Bias, so I’m not one to talk about have a fleet biased towards one manufacturer. LoL
Im curious, are you deliberately avoiding "modular" ships until we get more info about that mechanic? Because I would expect a caterpillar, carrack, galaxy, etc to fit with your interest in flexibility across different types of content, but the biggest mark against those imo is that they bank on somethimg we still have little info about. Or are you just figuring you'd rather earn them in game since they represent "progression" from the solo ships? (Note: this from someone who actually doesn't own *any* ships, and is comfortable observing the development from the outside until I can afford to build a computer that measures up)
Sort of. I'm always cautious about "promised" features until we see them. My largest ship - the Javelin, is supposedly modular. But how that works and what we end up with will remain to be seen. Whether I earn those in game, or whether I just crew them for friends, that's the bit that I'll wait to find out. I'm excited for engineer type gameplay so I'm hoping that'll be a skill set that's in demand, so lots of people might want to invite me aboard their ship :D
Own a Titan and a Prospector, but still not upgraded my PC to be able to play easily. Flying around and doing missions sounds good but proper multiplayer crewing would be that incentive.
I actually felt I high a really bloated fleet, ships did more or less the same, or ships I'd never see myself properly crewing like the odyssey or polaris. During IAE I tried to optimize my fleet but shedding some weight and instead of having dozens of standalone LTI token ccu'd ships, I worked it into 2 exploration packs, but I was still not satisfied and ended up just melting absolutely everything, I only kept my red alert scorpius and red alert carrack due to them being unique. At least I have a lot in buyback now, so I'll probably something similar like you where I'll buyback with buyback token the vulture and prospect IAE variants (10y warranty) just so I don't have to buy them in-game and have immediate access to those 2 gameloops, also since they are not combat ships I feel like LTI is less important for them. The idea is that at the end of next year after buybacks I'll have: F7CM OC starter pack upgraded into vanguard harbinger, since I just love the harbinger as heavy fighter, big quantum store and a gunner seat with 2x S3 weapons, so both good for solo and with a friend. Andromeda OC to 600i explorer, I would've kept the andromeda since I love it so much, but that one is way more affordable in-game compared to the 600i, and also the 600i is much more worth it's price after the rework with a medical bed and being able to carry the nova tank below (so I don't need my M2 anymore). A Nova tank OC as my premier ground vehicle, I considered a centurion as well since I just love the design and would like to have a AA platform like that with infinite ammo, so no need for logistics as much. Then I still have the scorpius for when I'm sure I'll play with a friend and then we can do missions together. (wanted to go hurricane but decided to stick to scorpius) The carrack has almost as much cargo space as the M2, so if I need to haul I can do it in the carrack, and it will also be great for group space exploration, finding events and anomalies to sell the coordinates from, or to serve as a base to do missions in uninhabited/ hostile systems. LTI token ccu'd perseus as my premier gunship, was going to be the redeemer, but I just don't really like the redeemer anymore as much as I used to. So as I'm concierge that means I'll have used 4 of my 8 buyback tokens for the year, I'm very likely to also to buyback IAE BIS vulture, IAE prospector, IAE Vulcan and IAE Apollo medivac. Still considering if I want to buy 2 LTI tokens with real money back, so I can get an LTI C8R (Since I don't have an IAE variant to buyback) and buy an A1 spirit, since it will be combat and I don't have a bomber, but I'm also considering just buying those 2 in-game instead since the C8R is cheap and I don't see myself using the A1 that much, that way I wouldn't have to spend money on LTI Token, I really like the gladiator too, but since I'll already have the gladiator I don't really see the point, so that will end up being another ship I'll just buy in-game. Things I ditched and probably won't buy back: Gladius Valiant Hurricane Polaris Liberator Odyssey M2 Herc Orion Arrastra Freelancer MIS Raft
The buyback game makes it so much more complicated lol, everything ends up in flux. Surprised Polaris isn't in your buyback list - it seems almost universally popular!
I have a rather small fleet of bought ships and those are exclusively ships I really like and don't wanna grind for over and over again. Since the majority of gameplay loops is not yet final or even in the game at all, buying career ships doesn't make sense to me as long as I don't know if the final iteration of a career will actually be enjoyable for me.
I just pick ships based on their silhouette and interior. I also try not to have more than one ship per manufacturer, simply because I want some variance in my ship's computer. I do have a rule, though, nothing larger than a 600i, even if I'm buying it with in game money, at least not until AI crew get added. The ships feel far too empty otherwise.
You'll wait a long time for NPC Crew, AI might drip in, yet CIG will drag their heels over NPC Crew, it replaces money spending backers, engineering will probably force you to take on MP crew. PS: where is ''custom ship paints''......exactly
I also have a ship (with LTI) for every loop that seems interesting to me and they range from solo to small crew sizes, although I might need an extra one (maybe even 2 once the gameplay is out). I wanted to have the relaxing money making gameplay ships to be solo, so I wouldn't bother anyone when daydreaming whilst pressing buttons. Plus I got myself a 400i which does nothing in particular, but I just really like the way it looks and handles (and I used some of nthe money I saved through CCU chaining, so it effectively cost me nothing extra). I also figured to get bigger crew ships ingame, for I need a group to operate one and while earning the cash to get it, we should be familiarizing ourselves with one another to actually use said ship effectively
@@Farrister that's what salvaging is for the time being, but I have to say mining is also awfully relaxing, although I hope with the new deposit spreading CIG has fixed some of the unnecessary frustration in mining
When you talk about why bought ships with real money I noted two things you didn't say - is the Javelin a money purchase or a referral bonus reward? Since you know all the ships are obtainable in the game eventually why pay money now? Are you intending to support the project overall even though you appear sceptical about a final release? Given your personal investment, the fact that you have built a channel around this game project and it's community which takes a no insignificant amount of work and time, as well as spending money to help the project which many others have for even longer than you perhaps, then it would be very important to give people the correct impression of the game, it's reason for existing the way it does outside the traditional gaming industry eco-system (even though the pressure of the RUclips algorithm tend to push the 'controversy' and clickbait approach) and why some might wonder, what is the balance between genuinely believing in a project along with others in the community, channel growth and viewership and the impact pushing 'attention grabbing' might have on both others who support the project and the project itself? It's a fine line to walk. I'm curious about the motivation for that walk. I know I have a fleet of ships for one reason and one reason only, I decided to support the project with regular amounts over 10 years to keep the team from having to work under the pressure of wondering if they would be jobless at any moment, and what else do you do with all that accrued store credit except collect ships? I'm fully aware I can get them all in the game once it finally launches. When people talk about the 'price of ships' they don't really emphasise enough that it is all purely voluntary and confers no advantage, and they almost never talk about why the store credit system allows freedom like no other for those who have committed to not only 'making a game' but hopefully changing the attitude and approach of the wider gaming industry.
The Javelin is a big purchase, from the first sale back in 2015. It wasn't so much about helping the project, as helping to realise the dream of being able to fly that ship, to play incredible multi crew. So much about the Javelin appealed to me as soon as they announced it, and I was in a fortunate financial situation at the time. This RUclips channel is a hobby of mine, pure and simple. I started making videos to learn a new skill, and continue to do so to keep learning, but also to acknowledge the supportive community who encourage me to continue. I try not to chase attention grabbing content, much preferring steady and reliable. In 4 years I've had 2 videos wade into the realm of drama, both unintentionally.
I like your fleet a lot, always enjoyed your content and your style of presentation. Always a miner in every space and fantasy game I played, except in star citizen, I may save that gameloop untill the game is released, then I can be a total noob.
I'm building my Drake fleet, plan to own a Cutter (already have), Cutlass, Corsair, Vulture and Catterpilar. I prefer single capable ships, I love the Carrack but it's too big to operate solo.
My fleet will be the starter ship until they release the game :) In my opinion funneling then with money is not worth it, not at this rate of progress, not to talk about the fact that they have no incentive to actually finish the game if the checks keep flowing.
Personally, my goal in pledge ships is going as following Liberator, Vulture, C8R, ROC, mpuv, P-72. used all at once lol but then again i am also hoping they add a cargo ground vehicle that can haul a 32 SCU container as a trailer or something
Hey @farrister, I wanted to know something regarding the Javelin. Is it possible to station it somewhere safe where it can be safe from being stolen etc? I know that it does not despawn and that it is persistent and that is actually super cool. I just wanted to know what options are you looking at to keep it sake or even stationed in a safe place for those that not ,ight be using it as often as you will. Thanks in advance and awesome video!
The Javelin is actually NOT persistent and will despawn like any other player-owned ship (you might be thinking of the Bengal carrier). Of course there are still plenty of details to be sorted out though, they don't want things just poofing out of existence in view of other players (and there's no hangar big enough to hide it in), but they'll come up with something. I expect that a Javelin could always drop out of quantum halfway to nowhere; it would disappear when it's owner logs out just like any other ship as long as there's no one around or left onboard.
I'm anticipating it will de-spawn rather than be persistent, but time will tell. If needs be I'd be happy to park it up somewhere in safe, patrolled space, in between our weekly sessions.
@stargeezer8427 Thank you for clarifying this, people kept telling me "oh don't get that ship cause it doesn't despawn, you have to constantly have people on the ship looking out for the ship 24/7 etc.
@Farrister hey, thanks for your response. That's kinda a load off my mind. Do you know if the parts on the ship will deteriorate even if it's just parked? Like I understand that ship components will need to be replaced from time to time when actually using it, but I've heard that even if the ships are not currently being used, players will still have parts deteriorate and will be needing maintenance even if not on use.
10 to 20? I think with the new Engineering gameplay that is to be added to Arena commander, you are gonna need a minimum of 50 people to have a javelin be viable, having all turrets manned a full engineering crew for repairs and a dedicated fighter squadron in the hanger not to mention a bridge crew to keep everything flowing, at least that's what I hope for huge multicrew capital ships.
I drank the cool aid and have too many ships now.. Though I think with the scale of the game not enough discussion on the use of alts to support different game play.... The game is 22 days to cross if Im fighting vand in one sector Im not going all the way back for my xian UEE trade route...
Im disappointed theres no cutlass black. If anyone ever asks me what ship they should get thats the one i reccomend as it ticks so many boxes for gameplay loops but i understand the c1 is very similar and close but looks nicer.
Rarely seeing people with so well thought „fleets“. Just one thing which bothers me: What is your intention to do with the Jav between your weekly raids? It cannot be despawned. Hiding it?
We don't know yet if it will despawn. But if not, I'd imagine in dock somewhere in safe, patrolled space :) I suspect CIG would not allow player purchased ships, especially those that are so expensive, to be at risk persisting in game between sessions. But time will tell, I suppose
@@Farrister Well, typical SC moment. While searching the source to backup my claim I found this old gem: ruclips.net/video/qqcN6UkKfog/видео.htmlsi=czrM6vwi4JA1ouhI&t=129 So, while she wont be able to store in a hangar, there will be safe spaces for her. ;) *taking out the jav from the buyback*
I do want to own the prospector but knowing that the prospector is very affordable to rent I’m probably going to just rent it till I can get it in game. Hopefully a rentable salvage ship will pop up too one day.
Yeah it is incredibly affordable with current game loops, I would support grabbing them from the pledge store but at the same time, renting a prospector/vulture and a freelancer already sets you up for a profitable future.@@Farrister
It's a shame that all ship are not available all the time on the store. I want to purchase new ship but I can't. I never get enough time to play because of my work and whne I got time I don't want to grind too much in the game because it will going to get wiped.
“I think this ship looks great “ lol starting with one two ships that fit “ you “ is such a cozy but neurotic experience
Story of my life :D
I like how every SC player has their own reason for their specific fleet. Thats what I love about SC.
My fleet is focused on checking all combat roles while having almost all ships with long range capabilities. I also own some ships for unique gameplay loops.
- Raven (stealth combat support, scouting)
- Fury (snub combat)
- Archimedes Emerald (racing)
- Merlin (racing)
- Gladius (light dogfighter)
- Defender (only long range light to medium dogfighter in SC)
- Vanguard Sentinel (hacking, medium combat)
- Andromeda (heavy combat, piracy)
- Retaliator bomber (sub-capital to capital combat)
- Zeus Bounty Hunter (bounty hunting and piracy)
- 600i Explorer (smallest explorer with med bay)
- MSR (data running, smuggling)
I never thought about big multi crew ships since I want to have ingame goals. But I have the Endeavor master set in buyback just in case. Also heavy industrial gameplay loops are not for me but i can see why lots of people like that.
Forgot to include the base Furx LX. Love racing and with three great racers I'm all set for that gameplay loop. Also, the Andromeda can transport two of my racers at once. Merlin in back and Fury LX in cargo bay.
Oh wow, a very varied (and expensive!) fleet!
This year is my first year on Star Citizen expect for one free fly weekend in like 2020, and I've already bought 4 ships and plan to buy more. Currently I have the Galaxy w/ Cargo Module, Zeus Mk. 2 MR, Syulen, Cutter Rambler. All of my ships have LTI and spent a grand total of $800+. Not ashamed to say I've spent that much either. This is a game I've had my eye on for a very long time, and now is the perfect time to be playing it.
If you're happy with your buys, that's fine!
how do you feel about those purchases now?
@Tr2w Still good. If I knew I was going to regret it, I wouldn't have bought them to begin with. Is there context to that question or are you just asking out of curiosity?
@@NomadHorizon just curiosity. sometimes people make impulse purchases and regret em later. seen it somewhat often in SC. glad ur not one of those people.
@@Tr2w With SC, I buy logically. What will I use the craft for? How much is it in comparison to similar craft? These are questions I take into mind before i purchase a ship. Only ship ive bought with impulse was the Syulen, only because the ship was dope looking. Ive since melted it though.
I think the Vulture is my favourite ship (and I have over 60). Just love that it's like a piece of big ol' industrial machinery, love salvaging, it's workmanlike and has everything you need, esp with the new internal storage.
Nice ship fleet Farrister, i approve! All of your reasoning & thoughts behind the ships are clear to me.
For me it was a similar thought process. I am in it for the long run, i have the following fleet:
Starting from the smaller to bigger ships:
1) Drake Cutter Scout - For my small beginner style ship, to hopefully unlock scouting as a GamePlay Loop in the future.
2) Anvil C8R Medical Pisces - This one will always be with me, on my bigger ships. I love the idea behind a Small Shuttle with a Medical bed onboard, and a mobile ambulance! I`d love to have this ship in the Cargo Bay of my Galaxy at all times!
3) Crusader C1 Spirit - The looks! It just ticks all of the boxes i want, even for a possible Blockade Runner. Or at least an agile, Medium sized ship that can carry valuable cargo quickly.
I have a token to the Zeus Mk II ES - for the future.
4) Drake Corsair - It is for me, in the Either Way category - as it might be replaced with another ship. Currently in-game it is my favorite daily driver. Sometimes i just take a ROC onboard & go mine planet side, other times i go for bounties & just overall enjoy the possibilities that come with this ship!
5) The RSI Galaxy - This will probably be my go to ship when it is released. Partly because i like the idea of a Modular ship that can do it all..... Partly because i love the esthetics of the ship & just think that it will be an amazing value to my fleet. I have an idea with the Galaxy Refinery module & an Arrastra for a profitable small time mining operation! Ran by no more than 3-4 People!
This will definitely be my Go to daily driver when it is released. I am hoping that no matter what happens, this ship stays in a good spot for a possible: Cargo Hauler, a mobile small Hospital or a Refinery, maybe even something else entirely. I like the idea that one day i can be on Module "A" & then when i get "Bored" of that specific gameplay loop, i can swap out the module & play something else the next!
6) RSI Arrastra - will be my Do it ALL Mining ship. I do NOT want to go bigger than this. The ORION will be a beast that i cannot tame, not without a crew of at least 5-10 people. Or maybe even more. Especially after all of the systems come online in the future, i do not want to have too many headaches when mining out in the verse!
7) RSI Arrastra to Banu Merchantman upgrade - i am sitting on this one, i will decide in the future, once i have had my share of "Fun" on one of the ships & will be probably upgrading to the BMM, depending on how viable it will be as my Fleet`s center piece. It does seem like it can take on a bounty contract, with a dedicated fighter in the Landing bay on board, perhaps i can put an F8C or a RSI Scorpius or a Aegis Vanguard Harbringer, maybe even others. But definitely will be the ship i consider as the END game for me. Id like to have a ship that has ample cargo, decent armament, some other function than Combat.... And the BMM ticks all of that for me. And the LOOKS! Oh yes, it definitely wins in the style department for me! :)
8) Combat ships i will usually buy in-game. Other industrial ships will always be a goal for me in-game. Bigger cargo - again all in-game purchases.
- As a SQ42 backer i hope to get the F8C Lightning in the future, use it as my dedicated 1 seater combat ship. I will stay on the lookout for a ship that is a Heavy Figher class, similar to the Vanguard series - with a small internal space, but has decent armor, firepower & mobility. If not i will get a Vanguard in the future.
That is all, thanks if you read this!
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Great fleet sir o7
You are always welcome to be a part of my crew! I’d be happy to help in your multi crew ship endeavors as well.
Chief engineer, standing by!
Fantastic! My current fleet consists of:
F8C lightning
Anvil Arrow
Vulture
Constellation Taurus
I hope to one day serve as a fighter escort for your Javelin! Cheers
Awesome! Highlight for me is that Constellation Taurus, I think it's such a good value ship - you get so much for the price!
Really surprised to not see an exploration ship like the Carrack, it's one of my favourites! Good choices though.
Figured I could crew one!
It's competing with the Odyssey.
I’m a hauler through and through so my fleet is centered around the Hull C which is the concept that captured my attention in 2015 when I first backed. Then comes the Caterpillar, Freelancer Max, Cutter Rambler and Scout, and a Cargo MPUV. I think I need to add a Connie Taurus to the mix next. Thanks for a great year of vids Farrister!
Ah, big cargo fan there! Really hope we see some Hull C improvements soon :(
How excited are you for the cargo hauling missions coming with the Distribution Centres? To clarify: I love doing delivery missions, but would like to see the upgrade to bigger boxes (whatever size of SCU, just no more hand boxes), but I don't really like the trading gameplay loop
@@PvtDamion looking forward to it! Lessens the risk
@@PvtDamion can’t wait for those and the persistent hangars. Then someday (fingers crossed) the base building component will be complete and this space trucker will be a happy camper.
Generally, I don't buy fighters, or vehicles, as they're super cheap in-game (relatively) and I see them as disposable items, but I do upgrade referral rewards to something fairly cheap, as I don't need a bunch of Hoverquads and Auroras. I try not to duplicate function, but for the most part, I like to cover all my bases, and sometimes buy something simply because I like it (600i). Sometimes I'll buy something for an early look, then return it for credit. I want my initial launch experience to be as grounded as possible, and retain a reason to do early game content, like deliveries, cave mining, etc. So I tend to stick to buying end-game ships, that I won't be using for some time, as I figure end-game content will be costly enough, even without the cost of the ship, and having LTI will be an advantage, regardless of how it may change in the future, and that's where the advantage will matter most.
this is my approach too, i have basically starter ships then large/cap ships, no mids....the entire grind up to using them will be fun
@@michaelsmith953 I feel this method is opposite to many. Doing my best to no kill the reason to do early game content and earn my way up for that sense of achievement. I don't expect we'll be able to jump straight to the big ships at launch, due to the expense, resource, and crew requirements.
That feels pretty wise
I can't wait to get my Odyssey some day. I'll pop my Inferno in it and maybe an MPUV or two. It's more big picture when you can really get *lost* in the Star Map one day, but nonetheless i'm chugging Hopeium™ for a 24' release.
I'd love to crew your Javelin one day as well. Multi-crew is going to be so insane fleshed out!
Excited to see some Odyssey too!
go to starship42 and look at the model of the 2 no way that's fitting
Great to see another Crusader Industries fan like myself.
The Vulture really speaks to me for a very specific reason... It has almost the exact same layout of the Pegasus class of ships from the Gundam franchise.
My fleet recently shifted and I reduced the size of my ships.
My flag, the MSR went into a Harbinger (tho seemingly my name reservation remains :D) as it fits more my solo run around do missions of mixed kinds more. Has heavy armor and armament and still can be my home away from home.
My Vulture went back to being a Prospector as I really enjoy the solo and silent nature of the Aaron ring mining. Sitting out there with nobody to bother me. My others are a MAX for transporting goods and mined/refined goods, or vehicles when I feel like it. And the lovely Herald as my data runner sneaky stay off the radar ship for when Pyro hits. (And a pulse bike... :3)
This is a great video, really useful to get perspective on ship choices. Balanced and informative as always Farrister
Edit: but I'll always choose the Ion over the Inferno!
both. both are fine.
Thank you :) gotta have that dakkadakka...
Imho, it is to soon for me to talk about personal fleet. My current goal of High Admiral has been reached, and what I keep as my daily flyers, are ships that I really like currently, and that sit somewhere in my ccu chains.
What I like to have in my current hangar is; One solo ship with 1 or 2 big guns(Currently a Scythe). One ship that can carry at least a cyclone(I think that's a C1 now, though often changing) . One racing ship (currently Fury LX) and Syulen because it looks amazing and is fun to fly.
Ships I really like to own in the future but not must haves are: Pioneer, Nautilus, Endeavor and Polaris. I'll prob own a Nautilus one day, and I'd love for my other large ship to be Endeavor, since there should no lack of Pioneer and Capital size combat ships in the verse.
Oh wow, Scythe is incredible! Very rare too, I think
I'm quite happy with my fleet as it is currently. It feels complete to me and covers all of the current interests I have for both singleplayer and multicrew gameplay. The full list of ships and reasoning for me is:
- Hoverquad. Gravlevs are nice versatile vehicles you can take with you everywhere and deploy anywhere. While I know the other gravlevs might be more capable in a fight, I don't need mine to fight and I actually quite like the hoverquad's style.
- STV. An almost perfect general purpose buggy for me. Small, fast, onboard storage, and a passenger seat. The only thing it lacks is room for a third 1/8th SCU box since most delivery missions need you to take three boxes.
- 100i. My original starter and a nice shuttle with good fuel efficiency that I can use to pick up frends or boxes.
- Fury MX. The Fury series in general is a huge boost of nostalgia for me, reminding me of the extremely fast and nimble ships from the WipEout series. While the LX might fight the role of agile racer, I gotta admit I'm just a sucker for the MX's blast shield.
- 325a. A pure vanity purchase. I wanted a fancy ship to fly around in and the 325a just happens to be a very fancy ship. It doesn't hurt that it's a pretty good generalist ship for solo play too.
- M50. A no nonsense racing ship without compromise.
- Razor LX. Where the M50 wins in the corners the Razor LX wins in the straights. Having both means I can always adapt to what's best for the current track.
- Expanse. I see mining and refining as a great way to establish an economic foothold in less developed systems. I also see access to my own personal refinery a huge benefit for gathering the resources to keep my larger ships running.
- Zeus Mk II CL. I like the history of the ship in lore and I see having a selection of midrange cargo haulers will be very useful in long range trading. Use the midrange traders to buy/sell planetside before consolidating cargo with a long range trader so that you don't need to risk your full load at the most vulnerable parts of your journey.
- Prospector. Gotta have something to gather the raw materials to keep my larger ships going, and as it is I don't feel like I need to go any bigger to a Mole or Arrastra.
- Gladiator. My current all time favourite combat ship. I love its retro looks and how its quite stealthy with the right loadout. The potential for modularity also excites me.
- Vulture. Where the Prospector is for ore, the Vulture is for salvage. Having both greatly improves my opportunities when it comes to resource gathering.
- Railen. Another mid-range trader to fill the same role as my Zues Mk II allowing me to keep a presence in multiple trading hubs without needing to constantly move my ships back and forth with me, but also a roleplay ship. A good captain needs to be able to impress their guests when negotiating trade deals and how better to deal with Xi'an clients than to show my own appreciation for their crafts and traditions.
- Constellation Andromeda. My smuggler and blockade runner of choice. Few ships are less suspicious than a Constellation, but the Andromeda still has the firepower to deal with people who still try to stick their noses in. And the snub is nice if things go to plan B.
- Apollo Triage. If I'm planning on spending time out in the frontier, it's important to have the essentials covered. And there are few things more essential than staying healthy.
- Corsair. Another midsize trader and another RP ship, this time for dealing with people who need to be pursuaded by the barrel of a gun... or several.
- 400i. Another RP ship, this time for passengers that demand luxury (and good wine).
- Starfarer. A heavy cargo ship able to carry fuel as cargo. Not only does this present new economic opportunities but it also helps cover another essential need when I'm in the frontier.
- Caterpillar. My current all-time favourite ship in the verse and a just about do-it-all trader. The only things it can't really do is fuel trading and vehicle hauling, but even those are potentially doable with future updates to the ship.
- Crucible. Covering the last of the essentials while in the frontier and also a pretty versatile carrier with its scarab bay.
- and lastly the Hull-C. *The* long range trader of my fleet, and the carrier of potentially all sorts of other goodies.
Oh wow - what a fleet!!
@@Farrister It certainly doesn't compare with having a Javelin, but I doubt I'd get quite the same use out of a Javelin than someone like you who has their own Org.
Thanks for the video, very interesting and well written.
My fleet at the moment consists of :
C8 Pisces medical
Scorpius
600i exploration
Really looking forward to the exploration gameplay
Good video, I also got a bunch of ships for different game loops because I don't have enough time to play and get them in-game. I believe that this problem will always exist so increasing the price of a ship when it's released or reworked is a bit unfair to future players who didn't get the ships at the first opportunity. I'm not talking about FOMO, I'm talking about people who will join in the future having to pay sometimes a lot more to get the same as everyone before.
Plus spending power versus free time changes as time goes on, for a lot of us!
@@Farrister Indeed, by the time there will be no more wipes many of the current players will have far less time to grind in-game. When ship prices skyrocket to the hundred of millions and the economy won't allow for quick money making schemes earning it all in-game will be so much harder. So CIG telling everyone that they only need a starter pack but then change the rules down the road and also make it more expensive to switch to the other option...
My fleet, 100i mostly for the looks and it is size 1, my starter ship. 325a my fighter, Aurora mr just cause, 600i Explorer, Lynx and a couple other ground vehicles. Do love the Origin ships. Lynx and 600 explorer are LTI.
Looks is a good reason! That's a strong selection
I like this video format, cant be dont to often ofc but i like it as i see how people figgure out their own fleet just like i do.
Maybe you could take guests and discuss fleet setups as you already shown yours.
A really nice and interesting idea!
When I backed this game in 2014 I got an aurora mr,sq42 and star citizen for $30. Almost 10 years later and I’m now upto a Arrastra with LTI.
Gosh!
as of right now my fleet consists of:
cutter: any solo whatever that i don't rly have a plan for
Zeus mkII MR: solo/small multicrew combat/bounties, + I like the look of it
Galaxy: larger multicrew whatever, no real plan for what to do, bunkers, bounties, medical, you name it
Perseus/Polaris: large crew murder fun times. got the perseus with a ccu to the polaris in case the perseus ends up being too comicly weak to fighters, which it is looking like it might, or if the polaris ends up being super amazing.
I'm so excited to see them in game - Zeus, Galaxy, Perseus and Polaris!
The Star Citizen community really is one of a kind, and Chris and Sandy Roberts thank you all immensely from their luxury yacht in Monaco.
I'd be interested in a video discussing the change of the original concept of the game being "a man and his ship." to " a man and his fleet"
It's an interesting idea - I don't think that's been a conscious development change, but just the evolution of (some) player expectations due to theorycrafting, hype etc.
@@Farrister exactly. CIG I think still think of it as man and his ship. but so many of us now have fleets, that for US it has become that. and merits some discussion
I started playing Star Citizen a month ago and I'm already hooked up to it. Loving it. That's why, you sir, have become one of my favourite channels. These type of videos you make are extremely useful. I ended up here looking for ship reviews and stuff related to Star Citizen; really like how you edit your videos, their content and your speech pace, which makes you very enjoyable to watch when you're chilling at home.
I always come to your channel before I purchase any ship, to check your review and, should you convince me, eventually buy them. So thanks for your time and effort you put in your channel! You got another faithful subscriber here. ;)
P.S.: I really loved the C1 Spirit,.It's definitely on my list to buy. The moment I saw her I felt in love, as it reminds me a lot to the SSV Normandy SR-2 from Mass Effect; at least, its style.
Everything from Crusader really screams Mass Effect.
Mine's the SRV, A1, Ares Ion, 600i, Reclaimer, Arrastra and Banu Merchantman
How are you enjoying the A1?
You have a well balanced Armada of ships. I cant imagin the logistics, cost and support a ship like that will need, that alone strategic planning. I havent seen any videos on ''How to plan for a big fleet battle''. It would be interesting if CIG set up some certifications for Commanders, who once qualified, could lend their expertise to orgs and groups, otherwise it'll be total mayhem?. Kudos for sharing
I collected all the resource gathering and logistics service ships for this game. They will all be put into my main orgs user pool for other trusted player to captain when they need their capital ships serviced or a new base built. I plan on living out of just one of my ships, a Constellation Aquila for the short term and the Carrack as the game matures with NPC crews/ship operations blades for the ships computer. I plan on playing ship engineer or damage controller on someone else's capital during military ops.
I also hope to be engineer for others!
Interesting to see how its changed, thanks for sharing. My fleet is very much looking to the future and centers around the Odyssey and supporting ships for industrial exploration/planetary survey. Resource exploitation, and (to a lesser degree) outpost construction to support this is my focus. I operate under the assumption we will have to travel to the fringes of known space or beyond to find the good stuff.
The quality of your elocution is outstanding on youtube. In English, your videos are the only one for which i don't need subtitles (I am French). They are a proof that the English language can be beautiful when spoken properly, you could be an amazing audiobook reader. :) Great fleet though !
Ahh merci, et bon fetes!
I've invested a bit of cash in the game as well and these are my go-to (probably will never sell them either): MISC Prospector, Drake Caterpillar, Aegis Reclaimer, Crusader C1. Being mostly a miner/salvager, this combo will make the most out of my gameplay. I use the Spirit as a shuttle or to tackle the occasional bunker missions. Don't really need anything else, the industrial gameplay loop is simply amazingly complex.
That jav needs appropriate enemies, here's hoping the AI/meshing allows pirate gangs to operate on scale and in a hierarchical way.
Would love to bring it to Xenothreat!
I have only 2 ships in my "bought" fleet. Drake Cutter and Esperia Talon.
Cutter:
My small Campervan. Its perfect to just fly around the verse to explore and look at stuff as it offers equipment for all the survival mechanics. It will be paired with a Ranger TR that extends range into "no fly zones" whenever that ones releases.
For now I use it as a bunker shuttle and Taxi.
Talon:
My light and agile support fighter. The currently intended size 4 guns would allow me to attack bigger ships the other fighters cant down the road. I chose it because I wanted an alien ship as my secondary and at regular 115$ its not as overpriced (and I got about 25$ CCU discount).
I use it as a bunker shuttle, for combat beacons and racing.
Ingame ships:
I usually buy a Corsair to do some light cargo hauling with either bought cargo or refined materials. I also enjoy using ir for high tier combat beacons as equiped with AD5B ballistic repeaters it shreds through the large ships.
Other than that I usually only rent ships.
Rental Prospector, rental Phoenix, rental Razor, rental 600i explorer are my go to ships.
Rental is really smart, especially that Prospector ;)
@@Farrister
Yeah I do to little mining to justify buying one for aUEC (and possibly losing it to an update).
A rental for 20k is payed off after one load so I start making profit from that point on.
And as soon as cargo elevators are a thing it becomes even more profitable. I can just buy a mininglaser I like, take the one of the rental off with a tractorbeam and put mine on. Salavge a Mole for its bags and swap those on aswell and I got a customized prospector for 20k a day.
Before the rental period ends I just swap back to the rentals original parts and put my own stuff in storage until I rent another prospector.
I think I'll get an expanse too, but I usually wait until it's out or maybe a month before its release because I don't like the wait of concept ships.
That's fair
That's a great looking fleet. I look forward to your reviews of the yet to be released ships!
Me too!
I wish I could say the same for the few ships I have used real money for, as opposed to the ones I have bought with aUEC!! Though I will say the general motif has been industrial/haulage MORE than Military/PvP.
Yeah, I'm swinging further that way now too
You have a solid fleet. There's a gap for some combat or multirole medium to large ships for small group play but that's how the fleet gets overly large.
And perhaps one of those concierge-style fleet pictures might serve well in the end of the video as a summary.
Thanks - I did think about the fleet pic but it seemed a bit excessive maybe? :D
I like his opinion on you dont need as many ships as these as i own myself a 53 vehicles XD, my intent is to be something like a ship loaner while keep certain ships for myself and friends or orgs i am in
53?!?!?!
@@Farrister yeah 3 vehicles double i think not sure last buy was a pioneer 120 months the other 52 are lti
Can’t wait to see the Javelin in action. I just hope it’s not too long of a wait. :0
I could see it in a convoy with a ton of fighters and haulers.
Awesomeness!!!
Server size would have to be a lot bigger though to have actual enemies to fend off.
I have my starter ship, an Avenger Titan and I have my 'Millennium Falcon' ... a Freelancer MIS.
Any multicrew play is aboard someone else's ship.
People who own larger ships are always looking for crew, so why wouldn't I?
90% of my gameplay is solo and if I want to solo salvage, (for example) it only takes a few bunkers to earn enough to buy a Vulture in game.
Keeping it simple and being someone else's crew is the best option for me.
👨🏼🚀
Very wise!
I bought the Polaris recently and I'm excited to test her in late 2024. Also I needed a medium bounty hunting ship with prison pods, so I grabbed the Zeus MR
I'm very excited to see both of those ships in game!
Always love the videos fun fleet you have
Thank you :)
I don’t know why You Tube creators when chatting about this game fail to express that there is NO big corporation of game house behind RSI. Without support from the audience buying ships we wouldn’t get this game. No EA or Bethesda or whoever is going to support the creation of a game like this. Not only is it too long term for them, and doesn’t help their bottom line quick enough, it’s too complicated. The want to add new maps to old COD and tell you that’s what you want. So if no one bought ships, this game doesn’t exist….
And to further express the chinceyness of those who say never use real money….. the amount of money they’ve raised at this point is almost enough to film the 2 Avengers Endgame movies. It actually isn’t much for entertainment these days. On average currently it’s just over 100 bucks per supporter. COD players spend more for one COD and the add ones for it…..then they buy another every year. Sometimes 2…. Everyone needs to stop being cheap, support the game if you want great entertainment.
Also, the Farister makes great vids. Keep ‘em coming man!!
For sure, there is no game out there with the sheer scope of Star Citizen.
I have no issue putting 1000+ into this project over the past 4 years,as I love to support this Bonkers project
Haha thanks. I think people have to decide what works for them, nobody should feel like they *have* to buy extra ships to support development or play the game. But many do, and if that's an informed conscious decision, that's fine too :)
For me all my ships are at the higher ends of each respective gameplay loops while also being solo or small group friendly. I personally don’t want to involve myself in anything bigger than the merchantman as that is my biggest ship and having to work with a large group isn’t my forte. But something smaller like a group of 1-6 is perfect along with the fact that working down is easier than working up.
That's fair enough, and possibly rather wise!
always love ur content. my SC career starts with a Nomad which was 70 dollar when i bought it with the game. Absolutely love the Nomad since such a small package can bring so much more gameplay than other starter ships. The Nomad is no longer with me anymore, i replaced it with the C1 for good looking, nice cargo space and it just hit that sweet spot in terms of size, firepower and utility as a solo ship. and last is my F8C lighting, for me i consider it as a Horrible purchase when it comes to how much this ship brings to me. but i am always a bounty hunter in heart, i love air combats i play DCS and WarThunder and i made my first 10Mil with bounty hunting so this F8 is more like a trophy and collection piece for me, and i absolutely love it.
Wow - interesting to read your progression! From one DCS pilot to another :D
you make some good points . I upgraded my Expanse and Prospector for the Arrastra ( mole and prospector loaners ) as it can do both in one ship how easy or if at all possible to run solo only time will tell for me and my thoughts are like the Liberator ( to move ships around when we cant just claim them ) the Perseus ( Just because it looks so good ) when you take that Javelin out I could run a escort with the gun ship lol
Sounds awesome :D
I started Star Citizen a week ago with an Avenger Titan, and I've already fallen in love with the game. I plan to buy some snow next year, including a C1 Spirit, a Fighter and a ship with a specific function (Prospector or Vulture), as well as the ones I plan to get with money from the game itself
thank you brother farrister :)
Gracias :)
Impressive line-up. Until science gameplay is introduced, my line-up is already finalized with a Gladius for combat, a MSR for vice-running and (eventual) data-running, and a Carrack for cargo and (eventual) exploration.
Just started to play and I’m in love with this channel.. I have a question for @Farrister : if you have to choose one only ship to have LTI which one will be. It must be your backup if all things goes wrong and you have to start over
Thanks :) actually if I had to choose only 1 with LTI, it would be the most expensive, because that would be the hardest work if I lost access to it :D
I upgraded a LTI cutter for a c1 for now, but maybe it’s a small ship if I need to start from scratch..I’ll wait and maybe upgrade to a bigger one
Farrister is so calming, he probably doesn't have any kids yet, they'll break him
Haha, nope, certified space dad here
Like you said, it's a personal decision. How can we judge your rationale on what you picked up? 🙂
My personal fleet is always in flux. If it were fixed I'd post it. I'm having trouble just picking my daily driver!
This, what I currently fly is a reflection if the current state of the game, and Me. How could I even know what SC will end up becoming?
It is a very personal choice :)
My fleet is as follows : Titan Renegade [ more because its looks, but also its cheap to spawn and keep running to make a tad starter cash.]
Glaive,
Vanguard Harbinger,
Scorpius,
Constilation Taurus,
Corsair,
600I,
I got a 600I to Perseus CCU on BuyBack once I got a bit more money and know more when the Perseus comes trough,
I probably will either melt the Taurus or Corsair for it.....
So I am more Combat focused, And Im gunna focus on Combat more, and do other in game loops with ships I bought in game :)
You had me at 600i :D love that ship
@@Farrister Eh, I will get rid of it once the Perseus gets close to release though, as I am more combat oriented, but them 3 size 5 hardpoints on the 600I Explorer do somne work on VHRT and ERT, and its a literal tank, the butt end of the ship is nearly unkillable
I'd love to crew your Javelin with you someday. So much to look forward to! This IAE I expanded my fleet quite a bit. I wound up with several concept ships, like the Polaris, Arrastra, Endeavor, Apollo, and Galaxy. The great thing about those particular ships is they all have loaners I really love. That makes a difference to me. Someday I hope to add a Kraken to my fleet, but...we'll see. :)
I plan to fly my Vulture around on my Liberator. This setup should allow me to comfortably fill the painful gap between the Vulture and Reclaimer for 1+ person operations, far extending the capacity and range of the salvage operation without having to contend with the "design" of the overgrown garbage bug.
I don't think hunting bounties for salvage will work with this method, so I'm still figuring the offensive/defensive part out. Until then, this is a passive strategy.
I upgraded to a vulture from my Aurora, and bought a Zeus when it went up for sale! I'm not planning on playing much until closer to proper release, but I figured the two of these would provide a couple of different options to gameplay loops to earn money to try out the others, without getting bored of either, hopefully. I also have a cutter scout in my inventory that I don't recall ever buying, and I'm really not sure what I would use it for! Maybe best to upgrade it into a mining ship of some kind at some point?
“Proper release”
Yeah, that should be a good platform to buy things in game :)
Nice fleet! It’s really convenient to have ships in the hangar for every gameplay loop you’re interested in.
I think so too, albeit at a price premium
For sure. I just have a couple based around my preferred gameplay (general violence, alone or with friends) and then pick a loop to grind a ship for and try out every patch or so. It's much more wallet friendly if you have the time lol
I always work for the eclipse to blow through bounties with though. It's a very useful ship.
love your content Farrister!!
Thank you!
Focusing on my play style as it is, I have a C8R for Bunkers, surface bounties as it is fast easy, bonuses and enough storage for looted items during a game session. The C1 for light cargo and small vehical transport, and a CCU running to allow me to reach a heavy fighter over time testing out combate loops as I progress. And if I prefer a lighter ship in the end I will melt it and use that for a combat ship that I feel fits with my gaming focus.
I'm a little bit drawn on the topic, as everyone always says "You only need a starter ship" but the the same people that say that, also seem to have an extensive fleet, and I'm wondering how CIG will balance this differences in the community once they release. Some may argue that buying ships buys you an advantage over people who don't and some even consider this a form of pay to win or pay to progress. On the other hand the ship sales are what keeps CIG going, so others may argue that they only buy ships to support the project. I'm also curious what this will do to the "progress" in the game, as right now earning money ingame to buy bigger ships feels like a way of progressing, but if you already have the "endgame ship" on release, what progress could you still make? Would this lead to a form of "power creep" where CIG is forced to release better and better ships to artificially create a form of progress? Also is this a topic that spilts the community and will it create jealoussy between the starting player with a starter and the player with "disposable income"? Could this "fear of missing out", that marketing uses so heavily also lead to people getting into serious, financial trouble because they want to play along or compete with players that have extensive fleets? Or could this also deter new players from joining the game, if many or most players have a large fleet?
That being all said, I also own more then a starter. I have a C8R as my daily Driver alone and a Freelancer MAX as starting cargo and multicrew ship.
I am one of those who says "you just need a starter ship" and then does the opposite, but I think that's because of my fairly unique situation in using other ships to make videos for people to enjoy. I'm probably less concerned with "progress" in game versus having a good experience with friends. There's also potentially an element of selectionism, where the most vocal people are the ones who spend the most, versus the "silent majority" who just have their single ship package. Maybe?
@@Farrister I understand, that as a content creator you want and may even need a bigger fleet to showcase ever possible game loop, but reading comments and watching twitch chats I get the imoression that the mayority of players own way more than just a starter, even though CIGs financial data suggests otherwise. Maybe it is the silent mayority.
When it comes to progression in the game, I also want to have a good time with firends but a valid progression usually keeps players hooked for a longer time. Think "ah one more week of grind and I can finally buy the cool ship I was aiming for" VS 💳 just buying it. Other games have levels or reputation as a kind of progression, and I feel that because SC only has Ships and Reputation as a Progression right now, just buying ships may kill some of the possible progression
Interesting, I have a couple more ships, so have widened and enlarged my options just a bit. Seems we're about on similar ground.
C1, C2, Nautilus, Hull-D, Crucible, Caterpillar, Cutty Black, MSR, C8R and, Endeavor. Planned to be the colider type. Which will fill my high crew count window. Even in skeleton crew, an endeavor with no additional ships around, isn't getting much done.
Really interesting ships - feels like you're a big fan of cargo hauling? :D
I hope to put The Hull, Cat and, Endeavors modularity to the test. I do consider another resource collector in the future. Since The Nautilus harvesting mines, may not always have a lucrative market.
cargo is probably the main side loop in the game. For better and worse, logistics underpin every effort.
Endeavor, last ship CIG plan to build....endgame, many years away
I am trying to hold off on committing to any ships until we are closer to release and more confident of what exactly each ship experience will be like. So instead I have a hangar full of CCU options and a spreadsheet to keep track of different "final fleet" possibilities 😅 That said, I always like to have a money maker and a general-purpose ship in my hangar for immediate use after a wipe - currently the Vulture and the C1 Spirit, but I'm not enjoying salvage much (a bit *too* sedate for me) so I'll probably switch back to a Prospector in future.
Very interesting fleet. Unfortunately this list is sadly deficient in Origin ships ;)
This year has seen my own fleet grow to more than one ship, with the Syulen acting as great starting point to a grand CCU chain that should eventually lead to the 600i.
Until then, I get probably around five years of flying other ships while waiting for more links in the chain.
Do you work up towards big ships in-game currently (as in, to buy them with aUEC until the next wipe)?
thats because farrister has taste ! :D
Haha, possibly! I've been flying the Syulen for the last week or so, pretty interesting ship! And yeah, I do - aUEC purchases :)
@@Pleasure0 Taste? If anything, he is still boycotting Origin for their horrible influencer campaign during IAE ;)
When i started last year i went bit crazy and bought ships because of the cool factor. By IAE I'd decided to overhaul my fleet to be more useful for just about every gameloop existing or planned. I miss my Drakes but it didnt make much sense to hang on to them with much better alternatives out there.
If you're happy with your choices, nothing wrong with cool factor!
great selection!
Thanks!
Future game ballance definitely worries me as I don't want my favourite pledge ship to be unoptimal, especially since it's the redeemer, a pretty much only combat ship. But I know that's just cig and their clever marketing.
It's definitely a risk with all of these things
I’m noticing the Crusader Biased of your fleet, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. My fleet is more Origin Bias, so I’m not one to talk about have a fleet biased towards one manufacturer. LoL
It does seem to have developed a Crusader bias over recent times!
Im curious, are you deliberately avoiding "modular" ships until we get more info about that mechanic? Because I would expect a caterpillar, carrack, galaxy, etc to fit with your interest in flexibility across different types of content, but the biggest mark against those imo is that they bank on somethimg we still have little info about.
Or are you just figuring you'd rather earn them in game since they represent "progression" from the solo ships?
(Note: this from someone who actually doesn't own *any* ships, and is comfortable observing the development from the outside until I can afford to build a computer that measures up)
Sort of. I'm always cautious about "promised" features until we see them. My largest ship - the Javelin, is supposedly modular. But how that works and what we end up with will remain to be seen. Whether I earn those in game, or whether I just crew them for friends, that's the bit that I'll wait to find out. I'm excited for engineer type gameplay so I'm hoping that'll be a skill set that's in demand, so lots of people might want to invite me aboard their ship :D
Save me a turret seat on your Javelin :)
Plenty to go around!
Own a Titan and a Prospector, but still not upgraded my PC to be able to play easily. Flying around and doing missions sounds good but proper multiplayer crewing would be that incentive.
Titan and Prospector is enough to do all sorts, and buy ships in game!
Should probably start saving for the #PC upgrade :D@@Farrister
I actually felt I high a really bloated fleet, ships did more or less the same, or ships I'd never see myself properly crewing like the odyssey or polaris.
During IAE I tried to optimize my fleet but shedding some weight and instead of having dozens of standalone LTI token ccu'd ships, I worked it into 2 exploration packs, but I was still not satisfied and ended up just melting absolutely everything, I only kept my red alert scorpius and red alert carrack due to them being unique.
At least I have a lot in buyback now, so I'll probably something similar like you where I'll buyback with buyback token the vulture and prospect IAE variants (10y warranty) just so I don't have to buy them in-game and have immediate access to those 2 gameloops, also since they are not combat ships I feel like LTI is less important for them.
The idea is that at the end of next year after buybacks I'll have:
F7CM OC starter pack upgraded into vanguard harbinger, since I just love the harbinger as heavy fighter, big quantum store and a gunner seat with 2x S3 weapons, so both good for solo and with a friend.
Andromeda OC to 600i explorer, I would've kept the andromeda since I love it so much, but that one is way more affordable in-game compared to the 600i, and also the 600i is much more worth it's price after the rework with a medical bed and being able to carry the nova tank below (so I don't need my M2 anymore).
A Nova tank OC as my premier ground vehicle, I considered a centurion as well since I just love the design and would like to have a AA platform like that with infinite ammo, so no need for logistics as much.
Then I still have the scorpius for when I'm sure I'll play with a friend and then we can do missions together. (wanted to go hurricane but decided to stick to scorpius)
The carrack has almost as much cargo space as the M2, so if I need to haul I can do it in the carrack, and it will also be great for group space exploration, finding events and anomalies to sell the coordinates from, or to serve as a base to do missions in uninhabited/ hostile systems.
LTI token ccu'd perseus as my premier gunship, was going to be the redeemer, but I just don't really like the redeemer anymore as much as I used to.
So as I'm concierge that means I'll have used 4 of my 8 buyback tokens for the year, I'm very likely to also to buyback IAE BIS vulture, IAE prospector, IAE Vulcan and IAE Apollo medivac.
Still considering if I want to buy 2 LTI tokens with real money back, so I can get an LTI C8R (Since I don't have an IAE variant to buyback) and buy an A1 spirit, since it will be combat and I don't have a bomber, but I'm also considering just buying those 2 in-game instead since the C8R is cheap and I don't see myself using the A1 that much, that way I wouldn't have to spend money on LTI Token, I really like the gladiator too, but since I'll already have the gladiator I don't really see the point, so that will end up being another ship I'll just buy in-game.
Things I ditched and probably won't buy back:
Gladius Valiant
Hurricane
Polaris
Liberator
Odyssey
M2 Herc
Orion
Arrastra
Freelancer MIS
Raft
The buyback game makes it so much more complicated lol, everything ends up in flux. Surprised Polaris isn't in your buyback list - it seems almost universally popular!
I clicked on this video so fast
Not too fast, I hope ;)
I have a rather small fleet of bought ships and those are exclusively ships I really like and don't wanna grind for over and over again. Since the majority of gameplay loops is not yet final or even in the game at all, buying career ships doesn't make sense to me as long as I don't know if the final iteration of a career will actually be enjoyable for me.
Dont suppose you would ever want to come do a Fix My Fleet with us? Exe
I would be honoured! Do I need fixing? xD
I just pick ships based on their silhouette and interior. I also try not to have more than one ship per manufacturer, simply because I want some variance in my ship's computer. I do have a rule, though, nothing larger than a 600i, even if I'm buying it with in game money, at least not until AI crew get added. The ships feel far too empty otherwise.
You'll wait a long time for NPC Crew, AI might drip in, yet CIG will drag their heels over NPC Crew, it replaces money spending backers, engineering will probably force you to take on MP crew. PS: where is ''custom ship paints''......exactly
It's probably wise, we don't really know what we'll get in terms of NPC/blade functionality yet...
I also have a ship (with LTI) for every loop that seems interesting to me and they range from solo to small crew sizes, although I might need an extra one (maybe even 2 once the gameplay is out). I wanted to have the relaxing money making gameplay ships to be solo, so I wouldn't bother anyone when daydreaming whilst pressing buttons. Plus I got myself a 400i which does nothing in particular, but I just really like the way it looks and handles (and I used some of nthe money I saved through CCU chaining, so it effectively cost me nothing extra). I also figured to get bigger crew ships ingame, for I need a group to operate one and while earning the cash to get it, we should be familiarizing ourselves with one another to actually use said ship effectively
Daydreaming whilst pressing buttons - haha, this is what I have in mind for my Vulture :D
@@Farrister that's what salvaging is for the time being, but I have to say mining is also awfully relaxing, although I hope with the new deposit spreading CIG has fixed some of the unnecessary frustration in mining
When you talk about why bought ships with real money I noted two things you didn't say - is the Javelin a money purchase or a referral bonus reward? Since you know all the ships are obtainable in the game eventually why pay money now? Are you intending to support the project overall even though you appear sceptical about a final release?
Given your personal investment, the fact that you have built a channel around this game project and it's community which takes a no insignificant amount of work and time, as well as spending money to help the project which many others have for even longer than you perhaps, then it would be very important to give people the correct impression of the game, it's reason for existing the way it does outside the traditional gaming industry eco-system (even though the pressure of the RUclips algorithm tend to push the 'controversy' and clickbait approach) and why some might wonder, what is the balance between genuinely believing in a project along with others in the community, channel growth and viewership and the impact pushing 'attention grabbing' might have on both others who support the project and the project itself?
It's a fine line to walk. I'm curious about the motivation for that walk. I know I have a fleet of ships for one reason and one reason only, I decided to support the project with regular amounts over 10 years to keep the team from having to work under the pressure of wondering if they would be jobless at any moment, and what else do you do with all that accrued store credit except collect ships? I'm fully aware I can get them all in the game once it finally launches. When people talk about the 'price of ships' they don't really emphasise enough that it is all purely voluntary and confers no advantage, and they almost never talk about why the store credit system allows freedom like no other for those who have committed to not only 'making a game' but hopefully changing the attitude and approach of the wider gaming industry.
The Javelin is a big purchase, from the first sale back in 2015. It wasn't so much about helping the project, as helping to realise the dream of being able to fly that ship, to play incredible multi crew. So much about the Javelin appealed to me as soon as they announced it, and I was in a fortunate financial situation at the time.
This RUclips channel is a hobby of mine, pure and simple. I started making videos to learn a new skill, and continue to do so to keep learning, but also to acknowledge the supportive community who encourage me to continue. I try not to chase attention grabbing content, much preferring steady and reliable. In 4 years I've had 2 videos wade into the realm of drama, both unintentionally.
I like your fleet a lot, always enjoyed your content and your style of presentation. Always a miner in every space and fantasy game I played, except in star citizen, I may save that gameloop untill the game is released, then I can be a total noob.
I quite enjoy mining in SC, hope you enjoy it when you decide to give it a go :)
I'm building my Drake fleet, plan to own a Cutter (already have), Cutlass, Corsair, Vulture and Catterpilar. I prefer single capable ships, I love the Carrack but it's too big to operate solo.
I like your collection, it is very practical and logical. {REDACTED} So I'm sure you can see the similarities.
I like your choices but it hurts this drake lover that you only have one 🙂. I have two purchased ships. The Corsair and the Vulture
Haha, Drake just not my style :D
If I didn't have a Reclaimer and Syulen, my fleet would be.
Vulture
Prospector
RAFT
Syulen
Very industrial.
Very!
My fleet will be the starter ship until they release the game :) In my opinion funneling then with money is not worth it, not at this rate of progress, not to talk about the fact that they have no incentive to actually finish the game if the checks keep flowing.
Good value for doing that!
Interesting fleet, Sort of a I can do everything fleet. Also, are you in an org or would you reccomend an org? I've been trying to find one.
Yes! I keep the details in the video description, they're very welcoming :)
Personally, my goal in pledge ships is going as following
Liberator, Vulture, C8R, ROC, mpuv, P-72. used all at once lol but then again i am also hoping they add a cargo ground vehicle that can haul a 32 SCU container as a trailer or something
Putting a 32 scu trailer in that can be retrieved and attached to ground vehicles would be super cool.
Hey @farrister, I wanted to know something regarding the Javelin. Is it possible to station it somewhere safe where it can be safe from being stolen etc? I know that it does not despawn and that it is persistent and that is actually super cool. I just wanted to know what options are you looking at to keep it sake or even stationed in a safe place for those that not ,ight be using it as often as you will. Thanks in advance and awesome video!
The Javelin is actually NOT persistent and will despawn like any other player-owned ship (you might be thinking of the Bengal carrier). Of course there are still plenty of details to be sorted out though, they don't want things just poofing out of existence in view of other players (and there's no hangar big enough to hide it in), but they'll come up with something.
I expect that a Javelin could always drop out of quantum halfway to nowhere; it would disappear when it's owner logs out just like any other ship as long as there's no one around or left onboard.
I'm anticipating it will de-spawn rather than be persistent, but time will tell. If needs be I'd be happy to park it up somewhere in safe, patrolled space, in between our weekly sessions.
@stargeezer8427 Thank you for clarifying this, people kept telling me "oh don't get that ship cause it doesn't despawn, you have to constantly have people on the ship looking out for the ship 24/7 etc.
@Farrister hey, thanks for your response. That's kinda a load off my mind. Do you know if the parts on the ship will deteriorate even if it's just parked? Like I understand that ship components will need to be replaced from time to time when actually using it, but I've heard that even if the ships are not currently being used, players will still have parts deteriorate and will be needing maintenance even if not on use.
@@yexiu5649 way too early to know
I buy all my ships with real money because I have a job in the real world and refuse to have a career/grind for money in a video game.
Usually you make money just playing the game, so what do you do in game?
Probably grind for better ship components 🤔
Run into stuff. Derp around. Bump security outposts. Tugboat ships randomly.
@@robopenguin5501 ikr, it's like if u cheat for money in a game, then what's the point of playing after that
Social aspect, thrills, not the grind.
10 to 20? I think with the new Engineering gameplay that is to be added to Arena commander, you are gonna need a minimum of 50 people to have a javelin be viable, having all turrets manned a full engineering crew for repairs and a dedicated fighter squadron in the hanger not to mention a bridge crew to keep everything flowing, at least that's what I hope for huge multicrew capital ships.
I drank the cool aid and have too many ships now.. Though I think with the scale of the game not enough discussion on the use of alts to support different game play.... The game is 22 days to cross if Im fighting vand in one sector Im not going all the way back for my xian UEE trade route...
22 days?!
Dang I want to upgrade my C1 spirit to the Hercules but it's not available for ship upgrading anymore :(
Maybe in May?
@@Farrister I hope so :)
Have me beat. I only have a C8R and Arrastra.
Not about 'beating' anyone - that's a really powerful and focused selection!
Im disappointed theres no cutlass black. If anyone ever asks me what ship they should get thats the one i reccomend as it ticks so many boxes for gameplay loops but i understand the c1 is very similar and close but looks nicer.
Yeah, C1 is the shiny version :D
@@Farrister im not a fan of the double doors for the cargo but i defs think its the better looking ship
Rarely seeing people with so well thought „fleets“. Just one thing which bothers me:
What is your intention to do with the Jav between your weekly raids? It cannot be despawned. Hiding it?
We don't know yet if it will despawn. But if not, I'd imagine in dock somewhere in safe, patrolled space :) I suspect CIG would not allow player purchased ships, especially those that are so expensive, to be at risk persisting in game between sessions. But time will tell, I suppose
@@Farrister
Well, typical SC moment.
While searching the source to backup my claim I found this old gem:
ruclips.net/video/qqcN6UkKfog/видео.htmlsi=czrM6vwi4JA1ouhI&t=129
So, while she wont be able to store in a hangar, there will be safe spaces for her. ;)
*taking out the jav from the buyback*
I do want to own the prospector but knowing that the prospector is very affordable to rent I’m probably going to just rent it till I can get it in game. Hopefully a rentable salvage ship will pop up too one day.
Vulture should be available for rent in a patch or two
@@alexanderellwood8952 oh dang I didn’t know it was planned to be rentable. Yep I’m good not buying any of them then XD
Vulture quite accessible for in game price right now too. But all of that is subject to change as time goes on
Yeah it is incredibly affordable with current game loops, I would support grabbing them from the pledge store but at the same time, renting a prospector/vulture and a freelancer already sets you up for a profitable future.@@Farrister
Im trying to leave gaps in my collection so i have to be in other peoples ships. Not perfect but it gets be out there.
Me too :)
Very nice
Thanks :)
How did you get the Expance?
Back when it was on concept sale
My fleet: C8X.
That is all.
Beautiful. And a great ship
It's a shame that all ship are not available all the time on the store. I want to purchase new ship but I can't. I never get enough time to play because of my work and whne I got time I don't want to grind too much in the game because it will going to get wiped.
I think that sadly that's a part of the boom and bust of marketing and sales :(