Our Self Built Dream Home Is Buckling & Coming Apart
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I'm with Melissa - go with the lighter ceiling for the smaller space and then dark trim accents will really pop! Also, I really enjoyed the podcast. I had no idea about FLDS and the Jeffs story. She's a strong woman to share the general weirdness and trauma that was her childhood. Your description of Blue cracked me up! I love the fact that Blue's mom came to your place to help him be comfortable in a new place.
I agree
My vote is for creamy white ceiling...space is too small and wood ceiling i think would make it look smaller.
Yes. Shiplap is my vote to brighten and "enlarge" the smaller space. Good luck 🍀
Yes, shiplap and a creamy white color.
I agree, creamy white ceiling would make space feel spacious & not so condense since it’s not a high ceiling like your home.
Long time trim carpenter here.
The wood ceiling outside acts like a giant sponge and is constantly absorbing/ releasing ambient moisture in the air.
The best thing for the outside would be to relieve the ceiling( a 1/2 expansion space all the way around and a 1x applied over the face as a picture frame). That would allow seasonal moisture expansion without causing the buckling you are experiencing. You could also use trim head screws( GRK that use a #10 stardrive bit) thru the face into the rafters. A screw hold the boards infinity better than the blind nails at an angle.
The ceiling inside of Gabby, like the ceiling inside the main house is thermally balanced so they move much slower. Like a door that is to tight in a jamb that sticks/rubs in the non conditioned times( early spring when you shut the heat off and re introduce moist outside air by opening windows to get fresh outside air)but then when the air is turned on for the hot summer season( pulling the outside humidity out of the interior air that is allowed in with open windows). The door almost in the course of a day or two goes back to opening again with no rubbing.
Hope the info helps and for not being construction people from the start of your builds. You have done a really good job to get where you are today.
Yes I totally agree. I did my front porch ceiling like you described and I miter cut the joints too; so the tongue n groove can expand and contract due to moisture.
Yeah, I'm no expert, but I grew up in an old house and owned one later and wondered about the expansion and shrinking when they put it up. We had a bathroom door that wouldn't stay shut 6 months of the year and stuck shut the other six months. We want to build our next home and would prefer a steel frame building for this other reason.
I agree.i was thinking the same thing.
In total agreement with/ Mr. McGinn. As you saw on your ceiling the accumulated expansion and contraction is approx a ½”+- across the expanse of the ceiling. Each plank absorbs moisture and swells in both width and length. It also will shrink again when conditions dry out. Room for this cycle needs to be built into the the design of the build i.e. the frame Mr. McGinn suggests. Wood is a living material. It moves seasonally.
100% spot on!
After flipping houses for 10 years, I would go with creamy white. With the walls sloping down, creamy would give you more light reflection maximizing the light inside. Good call Melissa!
You definately want lighter colors in smaller spaces. With that said though, they make light colored pine shiplap that you can do either way. It's double sided. One way is tongue and Grove and the other way is shiplap.
God bless you all and keep you safe
Painting both sides of your ceiling boards helps keep it from excessive swelling.
As soon as they showed the buckle, I thought that they probably neglected to stain/seal the other side of planks before installing them. Natural wood has to be sealed on all sides, and even then, it will expand and contract. It's best not to use natural wood products outdoors, there are plenty of other options. I hope they don't have issues down the road with the rest of their soffits, but if I remember correctly, they did finish those boards on both sides before installing them.
@@thebluelibra5686 Idk, natural wood is made for outside. But your best bet is to burn them, like with a torch, or open flame. And there is an old method of oiling them. idk, I'm not a country girl (always wanted to be tho) Peace
This is something that most DIY's either don't know about or do. Very important, along with sealing the end grain of just about all boards.
@@colleencourtney4484 Wood is a natural product, which means it will be broken down over time by nature. Even trees rot and get damaged over time. That's why pressure treated materials are used for decks and outdoor structures, but the life of those structures is not indefinite, without a lot of maintenance. Generally, pressure treated wood in direct contact with the ground only has a lifespan of about 40 years. Burning and oiling wood for siding and other outdoor construction is definitely a viable alternative to other finishes and/or non-wood construction products. On the 'My Self Reliance' YT channel, Shawn used this technique quite often for his cabin builds. If you ever watched an episode of 'the Waltons,' whenever John is making fence posts in his sawmill, part of the process was dipping one end of the finished posts in hot tar, which was the preservative for the end of the post that would go in the ground, so it wouldn't rot as quickly. Sorry to be long-winded, the whole point is that raw wood will not hold-up over time in an outdoor application. Even under cover, like this porch ceiling that buckled, changes in temperature and humidity will cause shrinking and swelling that can cause real problems, especially if all sides of the wood products are not properly sealed.
White ceiling is good because it makes a place more light and the space seems bigger.
The house will swell and shrink over the seasons.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE SWELLED BOARDS THE SAME AS A HARDWOOD FLOOR. you need to leave room on the sides of any plank system for expansion when the humidity goes up. if each one of those wide planks expands just 1/16th of an inch that means you will need at least a 1-inch gap on the sides for every 16 planks. by just trimming down the ones that were removed you will end up with a gap when summer comes and the humidity goes down. the proper way to fix this issue is to remove the planks on the edges (in width) and make sure there is a gap. making things tight and going without trim may look nice, but it will cause failures as time goes by.
My wife, Nancy of 53 years and I are so living our senior lives through your journey. We so much look forward to your next video and Pray to our Lord and Savior, Jesus that He will continue Blessing Your family and your venture.
Ditto ❤
Senior? Come on 50 is young!
@@k8m883 It says...His wife Nancy of "53 Years!"
Amazing, congratulations! Going on 40 year marriage and we also love living through their journey.
@@trinasteerman2675I'm 53 years old too. I'd hardly consider myself a senior. Your age is just a number... It is your attitude about it that matters
I'm right there with Jeremys back pain. I could see it in his face. Bless. I did something similar a few years back right at the start of the season so couldn't give it the attention it required. Heat packs and stretches got me through till I could visit the chiropractor. A few light massages from Melissa couldn't hurt, just saying.
Jeremy should get a TENS unit. He can use it when working too. They are only about 30 buck and has saved me so much!!
These units are a life saver
Definetely worth trying although they don't work for everyone.
As a Painter for 25 years, I can recommend making the ceiling a lighter colour because the ceiling is a lot lower than your main house, a dark ceiling will make it feel a lot smaller and maybe a bit claustrophobic so if you use a light colour on the ceiling it’ll make it feel bigger
I gasped when I read the headline. It reminded me of the moment 10 years ago when my six-month-old oak floor buckled. A few days ahead of the “pop,” the floor felt funny to my bare feet, but that sudden eruption pop when the pressure became too much was scary. It was eventually fixed and is still level, but I remember that OMG depressing feeling when you discover your home has staged a coup. Y’all handled the stress well.
Just like flooring leave a 1/8 around the edges
With the lower eaves and walls, your instincts to go light on the ceiling is spot on. Nice job!
Be where your feet are. I love that! I'm going to have to share that with my son, who is battling inoperable cancer. When I get new support shirts made with family pics of my son beside his loved ones, I was grasping for the right quote. 'Be where your feet are', how appropriate. Thank Youuuuuuu❣️and infinite blessings to alllllll 💯🌍
Lighter ceiling...Love Blue and Whiskey. I know you will choose what is best for your family and the horses. Your compassion is contagious!
Jeremy, the fix was great, just like a pro. And cost a lot less
Aloha! "Be Where Your Feet Are". Being Present is a HUGE purpose of Buddhism, Yoga, and Meditation. Your entire Family is a beautiful example of Being Present. I'm glad I've made your acquaintance.
Bloom Where You are Planted🌻
Oh my goodness what a wake up call with your porch roof WOW 😮. Glad you two were able to get it fixed. The apartment looks different with dry wall on the one wall , but really coming together… And I vote for the creamy white ceiling ! Good Luck with the new horse, hope it all works out. I like Whiskey, he is cute…. H
Sending healing prayers for Jeremy and his back 🙏🙏. Thanks for sharing this weeks video. God Bless You All Out There 🙏🙏✝️ And remember to be careful and stay safe out there 🙏🙏❤️😇✝️.
I personally like the wood look. While the rooms are smaller making the rooms darker, The big window will bring more light in the rooms.
Jeremy, here's a drywall tip for you. Don't screw the butt edges until the sheet next to it is installed. You will notice that when you drive screws into the edges with no sheet next to it, that there's a little 'bump' on the edge next to the screw. So... install the sheet and screw off the two center studs and then install the next sheet, and only then put the screws in the butt edges.
We have found that wood goes with wood. We built our house with many different woods. Loved it.
Great solution ripping the groove off the planks to make them simply overlap! 👌 genius! 😊
Thanks! 👍
I live in a small home. The ceiling was dark wood. I replaced it with a creamy shiplap, and my home feels larger and brighter. Yes, go with a lighter ceiling.
Ceiling: Pickling. Either white, or take the wall color... Convert to oil-base and cut it with thinner to get an opaque stain to your satisfaction.. You should still see the grain through it... Then top with satin varnish for a primo finish. Still wood, not paint, but very much a blended, less 'woody' look. And it's old school. Works with the cabin look you already have.
White ceiling is the way to go, it brightens and expands. Pine yellows with age and is ugly. Ship lap is a lot of work.
Melissa, your description of Blue is hysterical. Blue looks like a great horse.
Be where your feet are, I like that.
Your outdoor ceiling boards are buckling because you probably installed them when they were dry. Then comes the rainy season/snow and they adsorb moisture and expand. You should install them in winter when they're internally moistened and you'll only have them shrink in the summer when dry. Then the following winter they'll tighten up again just like they were when you installed them.
Awwwwww!!!!! I hope Blue AND the little guy work out. It seems he and Blue have some kind of special bond if he had to come with. And he seems to be open to being friends with Lexi.
I, personally, think the creamy white will keep the space open and bright. While a wood ceiling is pretty, it also makes it feel closed in.😊
Blue is cute! Whiskey is adorable! ❤ Nix seemed so happy to see another horse 🐎! I dont know if he even considered Whiskey another horse😂. Whiskey is just a baby! ❤ He just needs hands on lots of brushing, hugs & kisses treats to get use to having humans around. He needs a trim under his face. I can't believe how long that hair is. My goodness. He looks like a little hippy! 😊 Well, I would give him a lot of attention & treats just hang out with the little guy. He will get use to you! ❤ As far as the ceiling goes, I would go with a white cream color paint or a very light wood with a white wash stain. Have a great week enjoy the horses. ❤
Brighter colours for sure it'll open it up especially being a small space. The decorate with the colours you want. But for the room it's self, the lighter the better
A lighter ceiling will make a cozy space feel larger. Since you aren't installing uppers in the kitchen area, it doesn't matter if you have clear coat, stain or paint.
I would pickle a wood ceiling so you can still see the grains. Brush on Pickling
Mix 1 part white latex primer-sealer with 3 parts water. Using a 4-inch brush, paint on a patch of the pickling solution. Tip: When pickling soft woods like pine, apply a water-based wood conditioner first, then sand lightly to allow the pickling to take evenly.
Big worker, admirable example, united and loving family❤
I think Melissa is right about the lighter ceiling. I think a dark ceiling would make the ceiling look lower and the room look smaller. But if you really want a wood ceiling, you could go with very light-colored wood.
DEFINITELY white white ceilings, it's a smaller space & the white will make it feel bigger/higher & open it up more than any darker shade !
You were initially correct to cut the back of the groove off the boards. What you need now is to also seal the back of the boards with a waterproof sealer. To make the fit you only need a little time on the table saw. Cut the board back to the required width on the top edge, then come back and clip out the backside. It only takes one horizontal cut and one vertical cut. You just have to lower the blade so it rips out the board from the bottom up till it is the same as the prior groove. Next, put the board up on the edge of the saw and run it through the saw to clip off that chunk. That will leave you with the necessary overlay and the groove to slot in without having to work it around the other groove.
Creamy white with edge wood accents is my vote...Having wood ceilings totally will make the area seem smaller, especially with the canted ceiling...
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Your horse is establishing who it the Alpha of the ranch. Now it's over and he'll be friendly now. Love the mini horse.
Melissa is right, both my wife and I agree that the ceiling would look great with a creamy white ceiling. It will open up that smaller space and look great!
Absolutely a ceiling the same color as the walls because not only is the space small but the ceilings are low on the sides. Then do a big faux wood beam across the peak to bring the eye upward and make the ceiling look taller and more grand.
My Dad blew his back out after he threw a paper towel at the trash can & missed, then bent over to pick it up and sneezed at the same time. It took him hours to crawl from the kitchen to the living room couch. It was only 25 feet away.
Don't feel bad about the horse and your back! My hubby was literally disabled and out of work for six months after ever so slightly leaning forward to pat our Labrador on the head! Crazy stuff!
I would put up a sheetrock ceiling and paint it a very light blue (barely blue) to make it look more like the sky. I would not do shiplap just because it will be dated in 10 years when shiplap is no longer "in style". I would put up wood over the shiplap. Wood is timeless.
Go for the light ceiling, it will lift it up. Blue and Whisky have their woolly jumpers on. Come spring you will have a white mat every time you brush Blue😂. Shame about the buckled boards,expansion nightmare, have the same problem with our floor board.😢.
I did watch your podcast, could not even begin too understand what that poor girl has suffered. Hope she has a good support team 💜💜
I am a Interior Design honor graduate. I must agree, white ceiling for sure to make the space look bigger than it is. The wood would bring everything down.
Buckling from expansion,, caused by absorbing moisture, 100% normal. Well dried by age or kiln lumber 6 to 9 % but outdoors,, depending upon where, (Phoenix dead dry, South Carolina Humid as all heck) it can swell enough to 'barrel vault'. I have seen hardwood floors flooded by the fire department, barrel vaulted into a hump 2 feet high. EXTERIOR siding of all types, must or needs to be back primed before installation. Hardie Board cement siding,, back prime it. T&G siding back prime it. Lap siding back prime it. Back priming can be a simple and cheap as a 50/50 mixture of mineral spirits and linseed oil,, or use the left over gallon of paint from the kids bedroom,, or BIN 123 white or gray latex primer.. The goal is to reduce , eliminate, or slow the moisture coming through the backside of the siding or lumber. It reduces buckling from expansion too.
As you already may know houses expand and retract over the seasons. It's always important to leave gaps to allow fluctuation. This is why your boards are buckling. Always leave a gap and cover the gaps with trims and moldings. I noticed where your tongue and groove meets the siding is too tight. So I imagine your T&G is probably also right up against the house as well. Gaps are important almost everywhere when using undried materials. Furniture wood doesn't warp because it has been properly dried. Construction lumber is not dried. It will always twist.
I have to agree with Melissa on the ceiling. A smaller space needs brightness to not feel so closed in.
I was today years old when I found out about the drywall screw gun 🤦🏽♀️. Been doing some dyi reno’s and this would have saved so much time.
Quite simple really. Framing shrinks in the winter in really cold dry weather. That's why the cracks opened up in the beam. People assume their house would expand in the winter. Its the opposite in areas like the Northwest.
Thats why its very important to keep your lumber dry during the build.
Team Melissa on the ceiling love the new family addition hope Jeremy back will get better soon keep up the great work 😊
I lost it with your description of Blue ! 😂😅 I needed a good laugh and you did not fail to deliver Melissa 😅😂 ! Love seeing your family doing whatever needs to be done and living life with both feet on the ground !! Hugs, love and prayers from that silly Great Grandma in Kansas! My Great Granddaughter arrived Feb. 16th... she is a little tiny beauty !! ❤
Low ceiling near the walls makes me think creamy white ceiling.
I’m so glad you brought both Blue and Whisky. They are bffs and would never work without each other. Hopefully it’s a match or matches made in heaven ❤❤❤
Please don’t get rid of Whisky, you will find yourself with a depressed Blue 😢
I am so happy you could fix the ceiling. It looks great. Y'all are so blessed.
I think the white ceiling be better, darker will make the room seem closed in, also as much as I love wood I’m not sure the younger generation do. White is easier to combine other soft furnishings, more modern.
Love the new horse, hope he settles and Lexon becomes his friend. He seems a great match for the kids
Take care this week and god bless ❤
Creamy white for sure. As you said, it would be too dark with too much wood, You two are doing a great job with GABBY!!
I'd prefer a warm white ceiling to the pine, especially since the side walls are shorter than normal. One color will unify the space and create the illusion of greater height. Plus, no buckling!
I think the creamy color in the apartment would look great. Hope Jeremy continues to feel better!
since the space is so small I would go with shiplap all white with a natural/darker wood beam down the middle. White always makes things look bigger and brighter..
OH MY GOODNESS!!
Prayers out to you two, for total restoration of that outside job/ceiling of the boards! 😊🙏🏼🙏🏼
Ceiling color: My personal preference is actually more towards bright white. Because I need high contrast lighting in order to be able to read without to much effort. With my eye-sight I have a very hard time reading with warm-white light. So a bright white ceiling helps to “distribute” the light without uneven blinding spots.
I agree with Jeremy!! Wood ceiling are so beautiful!
Have a strong feeling that Blue is going to be a great horse, hes lovely❤
Seeing the drywall go up has to really be a feeling of accomplishment. Looking great. ❤
Wood movement! Moisture makes them expand. The ends of the boards where threads or splinters meet act like straws and absorb moisture like a sponge. Paint the ends with a sealer to help prevent the swelling and expanding. Gaps are needed to allow for swelling in outside woodwork.
Yes, the lighter ceiling in that space will look bright and airy. You can always put up some faux beams for accents.
In the other video of the little mini horse running behind the big one being ridden, I laughed and was thrilled to see it, and it brought tears at the same time, like he was worried about being left behind. I felt it meant so much more than met the eye, which you are now describing as I type. ❤
"Nervous Rider" hurt his back adjusting stirrups? Sounds about right. I kid. Love you guys.
We’ve had a mini for 15 years. He’s a lot of fun. But he’s an escape artist.
Lighter ceiling since the outside walls are shorter will make the space look bigger. Yay on your new horse 🎉 good luck with the feral pony ❤🎉❤
Feel better Jeremy! Congrats on the new horses, I hope everything works out for you guys❤❤
Watched the podcast the other day it was very enlightening. Strong woman.
Glad you got the ceiling on the porch figured out ! Hope your new horses work out ! God Bless❤
And, peace and love to y’all! From Spring, Texas. 😀
Love the new horse❤Hopefully all will be well. I always feel animals need friends too💕love the mini addition too🥰
Creamy white in the small space. I'm glad Jeremy's back is healing.
Creamy White would be my vote! The limited sunlight will reflect and make it seem bigger in the smaller space. Thank you for giving me a chance to give my 5 cents worth. 😊
Sorry for your troubles. Such a great team.
Enjoy the the footprint that you're in in this moment. As always, thanks for taking us along on your journry.
You know you can make them saw horses sturdier if you connect them with 2×4's in the slots supplied for it. It will make it a lot easier. Great job on the repair.
always go white for ceilings unless you have crazy high (like 12+ feet high) ceilings. Darker makes the space feel smaller and absorbs a lot of light making the space feel dimmer.
Love your description of Blue! Watching their interaction was so interesting. Thank you for sharing your journey with us! ❤you brighten my day!
You guys are wonderful people. God bless you both . 🙏
Wow-what an epiphany statement-be where your feet are! Thanks for sharing that! So simple, so profound! Good luck with the new horses! Light ceiling in Gabby is my vote. Once again loved spending some time with you on a Saturday! My favorite thing to view among all media platforms!!! You both are real, genuine and caring! ❤
I would go with the lighter toned ceiling. The wood ceiling would look fabulous but it would feel like it is falling down on you. It would make the room feel smaller and closed in. You could put the wood up and safe a light whitewash finish on the pine boards. Best of both worlds.
I saw the mini horse running and following around when you were riding blue at tryouts. He did look adorable. Your kids did not need a feral horse though. I think you have your hands full. I hope blue turns out out to be a great horse for your son. He really loves what he does.
I love 'be where your feet are!" We are finally making our dream come true and moving to Idaho, too. We are excited, but scared, also. So many unknowns with so much to do here before we make that move. So, I will take to heart "be where your feet are:" too. Thank you for sharing that.
Another inspirational video. I really felt for you when you noticed the bords buckling because you worked hard to get where your at. I must say you always impress me because you didn't let it get to you. You did what you had to do got it done. You are such a great team to watch working together so well I love watching you at times you throwing in a bit of your sense of humor it is all good. Your love for horse is beautiful, amazing. I feel they can sense it. The horse remained so still while you kissed it twice. I loved seeing that, put a smile on my face, I felt the love you have for a horse. I always look forward to my visits with you, you never disappoint. Thank you for sharing.
Wonderful work on the ceiling and a amazing horse
the wood under your outside area is buckling because it's absorbing moisture and expanding. If it keeps happening you may have to uninstall it, narrow it down and put larger gaps between each piece to allow it to expand without buckling.
That buckling would make me sick. I am so sorry that happened and you had to take time out of your build to do that. Also think the ship lap would be stunning on the ceiling.
Afternoon GSL Family 🖐🏻. Love Y'all and your videos. I vote for the lighter color also, but I don't have to clean or look at it. I know whichever y'all choose will be perfect. I like the idea of a trial run with the horses. So proud of you Beautiful People for keeping it real. God Bless Y'all. Love and Prayers For All ♥️🙏🏻🙏🏻😊
I have a prefinished pine car siding ceiling in my great room stained the trim in the room in a little darker brown looks good doesn’t clash. Best thing about a pine ceiling is you will never have to paint it. Worst part is that it will darken over time. It’s been five years and i have never seen the T&G boards buckle like your outside overhang did. I also have he same boards on the outside 10’x50’ open porch and they never have buckled either in those same five years.
MANY BLESSINGS. LOVE HOW THE BUILD IS COMING ALONG. PRAYING FOR YOUR BACK TO GET BETTER JEREMY. LOVE Y'ALL
I reskinned my shed door with tongue and groove and each winter it does the same thing. All down to seasonal wood movement. You need to have a bigger expansion gap at the end of the row. Something I needed to do.
Oh qiw, i get it how cold it must be whete you are, but the back drop with the snow on the mountains, just soooo majestic..you home dispite the unfortunate warping of the timber is beautifully made..❤😊 the ceiling wood with white wash, will look great..
Love your concluding messages, always. Had a little puddle in my eye at the end of this one. 🤗