I'm with Melissa - go with the lighter ceiling for the smaller space and then dark trim accents will really pop! Also, I really enjoyed the podcast. I had no idea about FLDS and the Jeffs story. She's a strong woman to share the general weirdness and trauma that was her childhood. Your description of Blue cracked me up! I love the fact that Blue's mom came to your place to help him be comfortable in a new place.
Long time trim carpenter here. The wood ceiling outside acts like a giant sponge and is constantly absorbing/ releasing ambient moisture in the air. The best thing for the outside would be to relieve the ceiling( a 1/2 expansion space all the way around and a 1x applied over the face as a picture frame). That would allow seasonal moisture expansion without causing the buckling you are experiencing. You could also use trim head screws( GRK that use a #10 stardrive bit) thru the face into the rafters. A screw hold the boards infinity better than the blind nails at an angle. The ceiling inside of Gabby, like the ceiling inside the main house is thermally balanced so they move much slower. Like a door that is to tight in a jamb that sticks/rubs in the non conditioned times( early spring when you shut the heat off and re introduce moist outside air by opening windows to get fresh outside air)but then when the air is turned on for the hot summer season( pulling the outside humidity out of the interior air that is allowed in with open windows). The door almost in the course of a day or two goes back to opening again with no rubbing. Hope the info helps and for not being construction people from the start of your builds. You have done a really good job to get where you are today.
Yes I totally agree. I did my front porch ceiling like you described and I miter cut the joints too; so the tongue n groove can expand and contract due to moisture.
Yeah, I'm no expert, but I grew up in an old house and owned one later and wondered about the expansion and shrinking when they put it up. We had a bathroom door that wouldn't stay shut 6 months of the year and stuck shut the other six months. We want to build our next home and would prefer a steel frame building for this other reason.
In total agreement with/ Mr. McGinn. As you saw on your ceiling the accumulated expansion and contraction is approx a ½”+- across the expanse of the ceiling. Each plank absorbs moisture and swells in both width and length. It also will shrink again when conditions dry out. Room for this cycle needs to be built into the the design of the build i.e. the frame Mr. McGinn suggests. Wood is a living material. It moves seasonally.
After flipping houses for 10 years, I would go with creamy white. With the walls sloping down, creamy would give you more light reflection maximizing the light inside. Good call Melissa!
If you do shiplap, I would recommend using a “undercoater/sealer” on all six side to prevent warping. Again, make sure the moisture is 12% or less when sealing the boards.
Your buckling is the t+g. It may have been very dry when you put it up and now with the moisture increasing it is expanding. You need to increases allow for this expansion. expansion expansion
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE SWELLED BOARDS THE SAME AS A HARDWOOD FLOOR. you need to leave room on the sides of any plank system for expansion when the humidity goes up. if each one of those wide planks expands just 1/16th of an inch that means you will need at least a 1-inch gap on the sides for every 16 planks. by just trimming down the ones that were removed you will end up with a gap when summer comes and the humidity goes down. the proper way to fix this issue is to remove the planks on the edges (in width) and make sure there is a gap. making things tight and going without trim may look nice, but it will cause failures as time goes by.
I grew up literally a stone's throw away 😂 our dairy farm property was literally at the base of that beautiful 🏔️🏔️ not far from the blackmores .........we live hours away in the rocky mountains now
Melissa, sometimes your videos make me cry. Sometimes they make me laugh. Sometimes they make me laugh so hard I spit my tea out. Today was that day! Your description of Blue came about just as I was taking another sip of tea and once again I doused my computer screen! LOL! I hope this new horse adventure goes well for you guys. And as for the ceiling in Gabby-I vote for whatever is easiest on poor Jeremy's back! Love from MN!
@@GoodSimpleLiving My thought is your best bet is always with a "natural" wood. Shiplap, in my opinion, is a great accent wall in a bedroom and/or bathroom. So, I really want to say is about those sheep of yours. I have never seen anything like them. They have thee Most Cutest Faces in the World!! omg...all God's creatures, Beautiful, And you young lady have so very much to be thankful for. And it's apparent, in your whole family, that you are, and are very happy people
As soon as they showed the buckle, I thought that they probably neglected to stain/seal the other side of planks before installing them. Natural wood has to be sealed on all sides, and even then, it will expand and contract. It's best not to use natural wood products outdoors, there are plenty of other options. I hope they don't have issues down the road with the rest of their soffits, but if I remember correctly, they did finish those boards on both sides before installing them.
@@thebluelibra5686 Idk, natural wood is made for outside. But your best bet is to burn them, like with a torch, or open flame. And there is an old method of oiling them. idk, I'm not a country girl (always wanted to be tho) Peace
@@colleencourtney4484 Wood is a natural product, which means it will be broken down over time by nature. Even trees rot and get damaged over time. That's why pressure treated materials are used for decks and outdoor structures, but the life of those structures is not indefinite, without a lot of maintenance. Generally, pressure treated wood in direct contact with the ground only has a lifespan of about 40 years. Burning and oiling wood for siding and other outdoor construction is definitely a viable alternative to other finishes and/or non-wood construction products. On the 'My Self Reliance' YT channel, Shawn used this technique quite often for his cabin builds. If you ever watched an episode of 'the Waltons,' whenever John is making fence posts in his sawmill, part of the process was dipping one end of the finished posts in hot tar, which was the preservative for the end of the post that would go in the ground, so it wouldn't rot as quickly. Sorry to be long-winded, the whole point is that raw wood will not hold-up over time in an outdoor application. Even under cover, like this porch ceiling that buckled, changes in temperature and humidity will cause shrinking and swelling that can cause real problems, especially if all sides of the wood products are not properly sealed.
As a Painter for 25 years, I can recommend making the ceiling a lighter colour because the ceiling is a lot lower than your main house, a dark ceiling will make it feel a lot smaller and maybe a bit claustrophobic so if you use a light colour on the ceiling it’ll make it feel bigger
My wife, Nancy of 53 years and I are so living our senior lives through your journey. We so much look forward to your next video and Pray to our Lord and Savior, Jesus that He will continue Blessing Your family and your venture.
I have a prefinished pine car siding ceiling in my great room stained the trim in the room in a little darker brown looks good doesn’t clash. Best thing about a pine ceiling is you will never have to paint it. Worst part is that it will darken over time. It’s been five years and i have never seen the T&G boards buckle like your outside overhang did. I also have he same boards on the outside 10’x50’ open porch and they never have buckled either in those same five years.
I'm right there with Jeremys back pain. I could see it in his face. Bless. I did something similar a few years back right at the start of the season so couldn't give it the attention it required. Heat packs and stretches got me through till I could visit the chiropractor. A few light massages from Melissa couldn't hurt, just saying.
You definately want lighter colors in smaller spaces. With that said though, they make light colored pine shiplap that you can do either way. It's double sided. One way is tongue and Grove and the other way is shiplap. God bless you all and keep you safe
Good luck with your new horse getting along with your present horse, you must have been a bit apprehensive when the two horses first got together. Jeremy careful with your back, it takes two people building a property, always a light ceiling in a small room to make it lighter. Love from Mike. ❤
Having dealt with similar issues as a carpenter of over 40 years. Should have sealed all 4 sides and ends that way moisture cannot get in. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of extra work.
I gasped when I read the headline. It reminded me of the moment 10 years ago when my six-month-old oak floor buckled. A few days ahead of the “pop,” the floor felt funny to my bare feet, but that sudden eruption pop when the pressure became too much was scary. It was eventually fixed and is still level, but I remember that OMG depressing feeling when you discover your home has staged a coup. Y’all handled the stress well.
So glad i found a family fond of The Horse world, Learn something new every time I see these videos , still don't know everything after riding horses for 14 years..thanks for sharing and including them beautiful horses...
Quite simple really. Framing shrinks in the winter in really cold dry weather. That's why the cracks opened up in the beam. People assume their house would expand in the winter. Its the opposite in areas like the Northwest. Thats why its very important to keep your lumber dry during the build.
I think “creamy white“ would be better for the ceiling. I’m a freak for wood 🪵. But, you have growing kids. Wood may instill confinement unintentionally. White allows for dreaming 💭 to the skys. Awesome vlog👍🏾😀!
Blue is cute! Whiskey is adorable! ❤ Nix seemed so happy to see another horse 🐎! I dont know if he even considered Whiskey another horse😂. Whiskey is just a baby! ❤ He just needs hands on lots of brushing, hugs & kisses treats to get use to having humans around. He needs a trim under his face. I can't believe how long that hair is. My goodness. He looks like a little hippy! 😊 Well, I would give him a lot of attention & treats just hang out with the little guy. He will get use to you! ❤ As far as the ceiling goes, I would go with a white cream color paint or a very light wood with a white wash stain. Have a great week enjoy the horses. ❤
Ceiling: Pickling. Either white, or take the wall color... Convert to oil-base and cut it with thinner to get an opaque stain to your satisfaction.. You should still see the grain through it... Then top with satin varnish for a primo finish. Still wood, not paint, but very much a blended, less 'woody' look. And it's old school. Works with the cabin look you already have.
Be where your feet are. I love that! I'm going to have to share that with my son, who is battling inoperable cancer. When I get new support shirts made with family pics of my son beside his loved ones, I was grasping for the right quote. 'Be where your feet are', how appropriate. Thank Youuuuuuu❣️and infinite blessings to alllllll 💯🌍
I have a trailer with doug fir decking it buckles like that every winter.the tung and gruve boards are swelling with moisture you might need to seal them
Buckling from expansion,, caused by absorbing moisture, 100% normal. Well dried by age or kiln lumber 6 to 9 % but outdoors,, depending upon where, (Phoenix dead dry, South Carolina Humid as all heck) it can swell enough to 'barrel vault'. I have seen hardwood floors flooded by the fire department, barrel vaulted into a hump 2 feet high. EXTERIOR siding of all types, must or needs to be back primed before installation. Hardie Board cement siding,, back prime it. T&G siding back prime it. Lap siding back prime it. Back priming can be a simple and cheap as a 50/50 mixture of mineral spirits and linseed oil,, or use the left over gallon of paint from the kids bedroom,, or BIN 123 white or gray latex primer.. The goal is to reduce , eliminate, or slow the moisture coming through the backside of the siding or lumber. It reduces buckling from expansion too.
As another mentioned.Its also taking on moisture,ALL exterior wood should be sealed ALL sides.Fir is also most likely to move, cedar is best.Agin when off make sue no moisture is some how coming threw roof.Also on fir ,which I avoid I double staple it on face, no blind work, doesn't hold.Custom builder for 25 years
Awwwwww!!!!! I hope Blue AND the little guy work out. It seems he and Blue have some kind of special bond if he had to come with. And he seems to be open to being friends with Lexi.
I would pickle a wood ceiling so you can still see the grains. Brush on Pickling Mix 1 part white latex primer-sealer with 3 parts water. Using a 4-inch brush, paint on a patch of the pickling solution. Tip: When pickling soft woods like pine, apply a water-based wood conditioner first, then sand lightly to allow the pickling to take evenly.
Blue is beautiful!!! He had a smile when you kissed him! If Whiskey is around humans all the time he’ll be more apt to bonding with one or two. I’m hoping he finds a kindred spirit in a couple of 4H kids and he shines. Mini ponies are tricky feral or not. He’s in the right place though with the right Momma to guide him to a better calling than a feral little guy. I bet as soon as he figures out that love, scratches and treats come from the two legged newbies he’ll catch on quick. 😉❤ Your little girl may have that magic touch Frisky Whiskey loves. Time will tell. I read that it takes a couple of years for newly built houses to settle. Is that what happened to your ceiling outside? Hopefully your house is settled and y’all relieved all the pressure and no more buckling or anything else from here on out! Your apartment is starting to get really exciting! I love to see the finishing of the interior and the color schemes y’all choose. I can’t wait to see the appliances and furniture that get picked out by the kids???🤨 I’m just excited to see it all come together! God Bless Y’all and All Y’all’s Projects Past, Present and Future!🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️😊😊😊😊😊
Put up both ceiling ideas and then I’ll pick ! Lol. They both sound nice ! But my vote is actually the pine !!! But whatever you go with I’m sure it’ll be awesome looking ! And I love Blue. Is he a what a Morgan maybe ? Didn’t see alot of him but he looking super gentle !!!
live in Alaska and watch your program as well as other programs there is one program I think you might be interested in which Is Lumina Acres. they have installed a Heat master G10 wood boiler that hears there whole property and only burns approximately 3 to 4 cords of wood per year. you can see on the following program the instillation start ( we have been waiting a year for this) and (this could be a total disaster)
Melissa is right, both my wife and I agree that the ceiling would look great with a creamy white ceiling. It will open up that smaller space and look great!
Go for the light ceiling, it will lift it up. Blue and Whisky have their woolly jumpers on. Come spring you will have a white mat every time you brush Blue😂. Shame about the buckled boards,expansion nightmare, have the same problem with our floor board.😢. I did watch your podcast, could not even begin too understand what that poor girl has suffered. Hope she has a good support team 💜💜
On a toujours des surprises après avoir fait des travaux, Jérémy je pense que tu n’avais pas assez pis d’espace lorsque tu as posé ta frise de bois. On apprend toujours. En revanche tu poses très bien les plaques de BA 13. Avec Mélissa vous avez réuni de magnifiques chevaux 🐎. Cela va faire plaisir à vos enfants. Bonne continuation dans vos travaux. 👍👍👏👏😘🇫🇷
White ceiling is the way to go, it brightens and expands. Pine yellows with age and is ugly. Ship lap is a lot of work. Melissa, your description of Blue is hysterical. Blue looks like a great horse. Be where your feet are, I like that.
I don't know wood but with tile you need expansion joints or it buckles, many clients wanted to butt tiles to minimize grout but runs rixk of buckling more the jpint usually is where the vloor meets the wall so maybe that is a consideration...
Creamy white with edge wood accents is my vote...Having wood ceilings totally will make the area seem smaller, especially with the canted ceiling... 👍😎👍
Your outdoor ceiling boards are buckling because you probably installed them when they were dry. Then comes the rainy season/snow and they adsorb moisture and expand. You should install them in winter when they're internally moistened and you'll only have them shrink in the summer when dry. Then the following winter they'll tighten up again just like they were when you installed them.
You could put up white ship lap. They put it on houses everyday. Becareful of your back. If these were a package deal and had to come together because there friends. Please dont separate them. That would be like someone separating you and your husband and sending him off somewhere. I hope if you return them you return both of them. You can always put the little guy in the barn when working with the white horse. And kids change there minds like the wind blows. I raised 3.
It's Dolores (Mrs. Tony) I decided to type a message directly. This is from experience of painting a great deal over my almost 70 yrs. I agree with you Melissa. If you do the full-on creamy white (with dark trim) it will give life to your small space. You chose to do those beautiful large windows, let them do their best job of bringing as much light into a bright space. It would be very subdued by a wood ceiling. Just remember, It's a lot easier to change the color of the walls than a wood ceiling. You'd never chose to paint a wood ceiling. You are making a great space for your children & guest. Keep making good choices to make the space a bright & happy place. Between you & me, it's not the wood or paint that is bringing happiness to the space... you & Jeremy is what the space needs most. You both bring joy to every space you are in, even our space. Thank you for sharing your life and your "good people" vibes. We adore you both.
A lighter ceiling will make a cozy space feel larger. Since you aren't installing uppers in the kitchen area, it doesn't matter if you have clear coat, stain or paint.
My Dad blew his back out after he threw a paper towel at the trash can & missed, then bent over to pick it up and sneezed at the same time. It took him hours to crawl from the kitchen to the living room couch. It was only 25 feet away.
As you already may know houses expand and retract over the seasons. It's always important to leave gaps to allow fluctuation. This is why your boards are buckling. Always leave a gap and cover the gaps with trims and moldings. I noticed where your tongue and groove meets the siding is too tight. So I imagine your T&G is probably also right up against the house as well. Gaps are important almost everywhere when using undried materials. Furniture wood doesn't warp because it has been properly dried. Construction lumber is not dried. It will always twist.
I think Melissa is right about the lighter ceiling. I think a dark ceiling would make the ceiling look lower and the room look smaller. But if you really want a wood ceiling, you could go with very light-colored wood.
You were initially correct to cut the back of the groove off the boards. What you need now is to also seal the back of the boards with a waterproof sealer. To make the fit you only need a little time on the table saw. Cut the board back to the required width on the top edge, then come back and clip out the backside. It only takes one horizontal cut and one vertical cut. You just have to lower the blade so it rips out the board from the bottom up till it is the same as the prior groove. Next, put the board up on the edge of the saw and run it through the saw to clip off that chunk. That will leave you with the necessary overlay and the groove to slot in without having to work it around the other groove.
I'd prefer a warm white ceiling to the pine, especially since the side walls are shorter than normal. One color will unify the space and create the illusion of greater height. Plus, no buckling!
I'm a natural wood kinda girl, so that would be my choice. Melissa, that was a "hit home" quote. I need to share it with my daughter, who is constantly 10 thoughts in at all times. Thank you.
Absolutely a ceiling the same color as the walls because not only is the space small but the ceilings are low on the sides. Then do a big faux wood beam across the peak to bring the eye upward and make the ceiling look taller and more grand.
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I'm with Melissa - go with the lighter ceiling for the smaller space and then dark trim accents will really pop! Also, I really enjoyed the podcast. I had no idea about FLDS and the Jeffs story. She's a strong woman to share the general weirdness and trauma that was her childhood. Your description of Blue cracked me up! I love the fact that Blue's mom came to your place to help him be comfortable in a new place.
I agree
My vote is for creamy white ceiling...space is too small and wood ceiling i think would make it look smaller.
Yes. Shiplap is my vote to brighten and "enlarge" the smaller space. Good luck 🍀
Yes, shiplap and a creamy white color.
I agree, creamy white ceiling would make space feel spacious & not so condense since it’s not a high ceiling like your home.
Long time trim carpenter here.
The wood ceiling outside acts like a giant sponge and is constantly absorbing/ releasing ambient moisture in the air.
The best thing for the outside would be to relieve the ceiling( a 1/2 expansion space all the way around and a 1x applied over the face as a picture frame). That would allow seasonal moisture expansion without causing the buckling you are experiencing. You could also use trim head screws( GRK that use a #10 stardrive bit) thru the face into the rafters. A screw hold the boards infinity better than the blind nails at an angle.
The ceiling inside of Gabby, like the ceiling inside the main house is thermally balanced so they move much slower. Like a door that is to tight in a jamb that sticks/rubs in the non conditioned times( early spring when you shut the heat off and re introduce moist outside air by opening windows to get fresh outside air)but then when the air is turned on for the hot summer season( pulling the outside humidity out of the interior air that is allowed in with open windows). The door almost in the course of a day or two goes back to opening again with no rubbing.
Hope the info helps and for not being construction people from the start of your builds. You have done a really good job to get where you are today.
Yes I totally agree. I did my front porch ceiling like you described and I miter cut the joints too; so the tongue n groove can expand and contract due to moisture.
Yeah, I'm no expert, but I grew up in an old house and owned one later and wondered about the expansion and shrinking when they put it up. We had a bathroom door that wouldn't stay shut 6 months of the year and stuck shut the other six months. We want to build our next home and would prefer a steel frame building for this other reason.
I agree.i was thinking the same thing.
In total agreement with/ Mr. McGinn. As you saw on your ceiling the accumulated expansion and contraction is approx a ½”+- across the expanse of the ceiling. Each plank absorbs moisture and swells in both width and length. It also will shrink again when conditions dry out. Room for this cycle needs to be built into the the design of the build i.e. the frame Mr. McGinn suggests. Wood is a living material. It moves seasonally.
100% spot on!
After flipping houses for 10 years, I would go with creamy white. With the walls sloping down, creamy would give you more light reflection maximizing the light inside. Good call Melissa!
If you do shiplap, I would recommend using a “undercoater/sealer” on all six side to prevent warping. Again, make sure the moisture is 12% or less when sealing the boards.
DEFINITELY white white ceilings, it's a smaller space & the white will make it feel bigger/higher & open it up more than any darker shade !
Your buckling is the t+g. It may have been very dry when you put it up and now with the moisture increasing it is expanding. You need to increases allow for this expansion. expansion expansion
I would so love that mini horse..
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE SWELLED BOARDS THE SAME AS A HARDWOOD FLOOR. you need to leave room on the sides of any plank system for expansion when the humidity goes up. if each one of those wide planks expands just 1/16th of an inch that means you will need at least a 1-inch gap on the sides for every 16 planks. by just trimming down the ones that were removed you will end up with a gap when summer comes and the humidity goes down. the proper way to fix this issue is to remove the planks on the edges (in width) and make sure there is a gap. making things tight and going without trim may look nice, but it will cause failures as time goes by.
I grew up literally a stone's throw away 😂 our dairy farm property was literally at the base of that beautiful 🏔️🏔️ not far from the blackmores .........we live hours away in the rocky mountains now
Melissa, sometimes your videos make me cry. Sometimes they make me laugh. Sometimes they make me laugh so hard I spit my tea out. Today was that day! Your description of Blue came about just as I was taking another sip of tea and once again I doused my computer screen! LOL! I hope this new horse adventure goes well for you guys. And as for the ceiling in Gabby-I vote for whatever is easiest on poor Jeremy's back! Love from MN!
😆 🤣 😂 sorry
@@GoodSimpleLiving My thought is your best bet is always with a "natural" wood. Shiplap, in my opinion, is a great accent wall in a bedroom and/or bathroom.
So, I really want to say is about those sheep of yours. I have never seen anything like them. They have thee Most Cutest Faces in the World!! omg...all God's creatures, Beautiful, And you young lady have so very much to be thankful for. And it's apparent, in your whole family, that you are, and are very happy people
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I love the Wood on the Ceiling,, but the White will be Brighter.
The house will swell and shrink over the seasons.
Painting both sides of your ceiling boards helps keep it from excessive swelling.
As soon as they showed the buckle, I thought that they probably neglected to stain/seal the other side of planks before installing them. Natural wood has to be sealed on all sides, and even then, it will expand and contract. It's best not to use natural wood products outdoors, there are plenty of other options. I hope they don't have issues down the road with the rest of their soffits, but if I remember correctly, they did finish those boards on both sides before installing them.
@@thebluelibra5686 Idk, natural wood is made for outside. But your best bet is to burn them, like with a torch, or open flame. And there is an old method of oiling them. idk, I'm not a country girl (always wanted to be tho) Peace
This is something that most DIY's either don't know about or do. Very important, along with sealing the end grain of just about all boards.
@@colleencourtney4484 Wood is a natural product, which means it will be broken down over time by nature. Even trees rot and get damaged over time. That's why pressure treated materials are used for decks and outdoor structures, but the life of those structures is not indefinite, without a lot of maintenance. Generally, pressure treated wood in direct contact with the ground only has a lifespan of about 40 years. Burning and oiling wood for siding and other outdoor construction is definitely a viable alternative to other finishes and/or non-wood construction products. On the 'My Self Reliance' YT channel, Shawn used this technique quite often for his cabin builds. If you ever watched an episode of 'the Waltons,' whenever John is making fence posts in his sawmill, part of the process was dipping one end of the finished posts in hot tar, which was the preservative for the end of the post that would go in the ground, so it wouldn't rot as quickly. Sorry to be long-winded, the whole point is that raw wood will not hold-up over time in an outdoor application. Even under cover, like this porch ceiling that buckled, changes in temperature and humidity will cause shrinking and swelling that can cause real problems, especially if all sides of the wood products are not properly sealed.
White ceiling is good because it makes a place more light and the space seems bigger.
As a Painter for 25 years, I can recommend making the ceiling a lighter colour because the ceiling is a lot lower than your main house, a dark ceiling will make it feel a lot smaller and maybe a bit claustrophobic so if you use a light colour on the ceiling it’ll make it feel bigger
Oh my goodness, Keira is growing up. Growing into a beautiful young lady!
My wife, Nancy of 53 years and I are so living our senior lives through your journey. We so much look forward to your next video and Pray to our Lord and Savior, Jesus that He will continue Blessing Your family and your venture.
Ditto ❤
Senior? Come on 50 is young!
@@k8m883 It says...His wife Nancy of "53 Years!"
Amazing, congratulations! Going on 40 year marriage and we also love living through their journey.
@@trinasteerman2675I'm 53 years old too. I'd hardly consider myself a senior. Your age is just a number... It is your attitude about it that matters
Jeremy should get a TENS unit. He can use it when working too. They are only about 30 buck and has saved me so much!!
These units are a life saver
Definetely worth trying although they don't work for everyone.
I have a prefinished pine car siding ceiling in my great room stained the trim in the room in a little darker brown looks good doesn’t clash. Best thing about a pine ceiling is you will never have to paint it. Worst part is that it will darken over time. It’s been five years and i have never seen the T&G boards buckle like your outside overhang did. I also have he same boards on the outside 10’x50’ open porch and they never have buckled either in those same five years.
I'm right there with Jeremys back pain. I could see it in his face. Bless. I did something similar a few years back right at the start of the season so couldn't give it the attention it required. Heat packs and stretches got me through till I could visit the chiropractor. A few light massages from Melissa couldn't hurt, just saying.
That’s what an expansion joint is for!
You definately want lighter colors in smaller spaces. With that said though, they make light colored pine shiplap that you can do either way. It's double sided. One way is tongue and Grove and the other way is shiplap.
God bless you all and keep you safe
For that smaller space I'd definitely go with the lighter colored ceiling!
Just like flooring leave a 1/8 around the edges
Besides the glitch everything is coming along rather well overall. Looking good folks.
Good luck with your new horse getting along with your present horse, you must have been a bit apprehensive when the two horses first got together. Jeremy careful with your back, it takes two people building a property, always a light ceiling in a small room to make it lighter.
Love from Mike. ❤
Having dealt with similar issues as a carpenter of over 40 years. Should have sealed all 4 sides and ends that way moisture cannot get in. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of extra work.
Bloom Where You are Planted🌻
I gasped when I read the headline. It reminded me of the moment 10 years ago when my six-month-old oak floor buckled. A few days ahead of the “pop,” the floor felt funny to my bare feet, but that sudden eruption pop when the pressure became too much was scary. It was eventually fixed and is still level, but I remember that OMG depressing feeling when you discover your home has staged a coup. Y’all handled the stress well.
Creamy white ceiling. Open up and brighten area. ❤❤❤
With the lower eaves and walls, your instincts to go light on the ceiling is spot on. Nice job!
I think the off white ceiling would be great. Good luck with Blue. Love you guys.
Most of my house is real shiplap and I love it. Definitely do creamy white shiplap with the dark trim. It would look classy rustic. Perfection 👌.
Creamy white!! It will make your space!! Look much bigger the wood beams & trim will stand out beautifully
Jeremy, the fix was great, just like a pro. And cost a lot less
Being present right where our feet are. ❤
So glad i found a family fond of The Horse world, Learn something new every time I see these videos , still don't know everything after riding horses for 14 years..thanks for sharing and including them beautiful horses...
We are still learning as well ❤️
I love your ceiling in the house, but for the smaller apartment I'd definitely go creamy white!
Don’t feel bad Jeremy, I pulled a muscle in my lower back putting on my underwear, two week recovery.
Quite simple really. Framing shrinks in the winter in really cold dry weather. That's why the cracks opened up in the beam. People assume their house would expand in the winter. Its the opposite in areas like the Northwest.
Thats why its very important to keep your lumber dry during the build.
I Love Blue 💙 So Much And Whiskey, They Are A Pair!!!
Good job correcting your build.
I think “creamy white“ would be better for the ceiling. I’m a freak for wood 🪵. But, you have growing kids. Wood may instill confinement unintentionally. White allows for dreaming 💭 to the skys. Awesome vlog👍🏾😀!
Good job looks fine!
Thanks!
Blue is cute! Whiskey is adorable! ❤ Nix seemed so happy to see another horse 🐎! I dont know if he even considered Whiskey another horse😂. Whiskey is just a baby! ❤ He just needs hands on lots of brushing, hugs & kisses treats to get use to having humans around. He needs a trim under his face. I can't believe how long that hair is. My goodness. He looks like a little hippy! 😊 Well, I would give him a lot of attention & treats just hang out with the little guy. He will get use to you! ❤ As far as the ceiling goes, I would go with a white cream color paint or a very light wood with a white wash stain. Have a great week enjoy the horses. ❤
"Nervous Rider" hurt his back adjusting stirrups? Sounds about right. I kid. Love you guys.
Ceiling: Pickling. Either white, or take the wall color... Convert to oil-base and cut it with thinner to get an opaque stain to your satisfaction.. You should still see the grain through it... Then top with satin varnish for a primo finish. Still wood, not paint, but very much a blended, less 'woody' look. And it's old school. Works with the cabin look you already have.
Be where your feet are. I love that! I'm going to have to share that with my son, who is battling inoperable cancer. When I get new support shirts made with family pics of my son beside his loved ones, I was grasping for the right quote. 'Be where your feet are', how appropriate. Thank Youuuuuuu❣️and infinite blessings to alllllll 💯🌍
Walls and ceiling matching color
I have a trailer with doug fir decking it buckles like that every winter.the tung and gruve boards are swelling with moisture you might need to seal them
Buckling from expansion,, caused by absorbing moisture, 100% normal. Well dried by age or kiln lumber 6 to 9 % but outdoors,, depending upon where, (Phoenix dead dry, South Carolina Humid as all heck) it can swell enough to 'barrel vault'. I have seen hardwood floors flooded by the fire department, barrel vaulted into a hump 2 feet high. EXTERIOR siding of all types, must or needs to be back primed before installation. Hardie Board cement siding,, back prime it. T&G siding back prime it. Lap siding back prime it. Back priming can be a simple and cheap as a 50/50 mixture of mineral spirits and linseed oil,, or use the left over gallon of paint from the kids bedroom,, or BIN 123 white or gray latex primer.. The goal is to reduce , eliminate, or slow the moisture coming through the backside of the siding or lumber. It reduces buckling from expansion too.
The moisture in the boards froze and expanded during the winter freeze. This happens all the time with asphalt on roads.
I sincerely hope Blue works out. All horses are beautiful and magnificent to me. 🐎 🐴 ❤❤
As another mentioned.Its also taking on moisture,ALL exterior wood should be sealed ALL sides.Fir is also most likely to move, cedar is best.Agin when off make sue no moisture is some how coming threw roof.Also on fir ,which I avoid I double staple it on face, no blind work, doesn't hold.Custom builder for 25 years
You’re a hell of a carpenter brother
Exciting to have the new horse for trial. Hope it works out the way it's needed!
Awwwwww!!!!! I hope Blue AND the little guy work out. It seems he and Blue have some kind of special bond if he had to come with. And he seems to be open to being friends with Lexi.
I would pickle a wood ceiling so you can still see the grains. Brush on Pickling
Mix 1 part white latex primer-sealer with 3 parts water. Using a 4-inch brush, paint on a patch of the pickling solution. Tip: When pickling soft woods like pine, apply a water-based wood conditioner first, then sand lightly to allow the pickling to take evenly.
What a great description of Blue.
Blue is beautiful!!! He had a smile when you kissed him! If Whiskey is around humans all the time he’ll be more apt to bonding with one or two. I’m hoping he finds a kindred spirit in a couple of 4H kids and he shines. Mini ponies are tricky feral or not. He’s in the right place though with the right Momma to guide him to a better calling than a feral little guy. I bet as soon as he figures out that love, scratches and treats come from the two legged newbies he’ll catch on quick. 😉❤ Your little girl may have that magic touch Frisky Whiskey loves. Time will tell. I read that it takes a couple of years for newly built houses to settle. Is that what happened to your ceiling outside? Hopefully your house is settled and y’all relieved all the pressure and no more buckling or anything else from here on out! Your apartment is starting to get really exciting! I love to see the finishing of the interior and the color schemes y’all choose. I can’t wait to see the appliances and furniture that get picked out by the kids???🤨 I’m just excited to see it all come together! God Bless Y’all and All Y’all’s Projects Past, Present and Future!🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️😊😊😊😊😊
Put up both ceiling ideas and then I’ll pick ! Lol. They both sound nice ! But my vote is actually the pine !!! But whatever you go with I’m sure it’ll be awesome looking !
And I love Blue. Is he a what a Morgan maybe ? Didn’t see alot of him but he looking super gentle !!!
Yeah, ship lap is a way better option for exterior, even using cedar or redwood.
live in Alaska and watch your program as well as other programs there is one program I think you might be interested in which Is Lumina Acres. they have installed a Heat master G10 wood boiler that hears there whole property and only burns approximately 3 to 4 cords of wood per year. you can see on the following program the instillation start ( we have been waiting a year for this) and (this could be a total disaster)
Definitely with you Melissa. White would look so good.
Your horse is establishing who it the Alpha of the ranch. Now it's over and he'll be friendly now. Love the mini horse.
Melissa is right, both my wife and I agree that the ceiling would look great with a creamy white ceiling. It will open up that smaller space and look great!
❤️❤️❤️ the horses!!
Go for the light ceiling, it will lift it up. Blue and Whisky have their woolly jumpers on. Come spring you will have a white mat every time you brush Blue😂. Shame about the buckled boards,expansion nightmare, have the same problem with our floor board.😢.
I did watch your podcast, could not even begin too understand what that poor girl has suffered. Hope she has a good support team 💜💜
On a toujours des surprises après avoir fait des travaux, Jérémy je pense que tu n’avais pas assez pis d’espace lorsque tu as posé ta frise de bois. On apprend toujours. En revanche tu poses très bien les plaques de BA 13. Avec Mélissa vous avez réuni de magnifiques chevaux 🐎. Cela va faire plaisir à vos enfants. Bonne continuation dans vos travaux. 👍👍👏👏😘🇫🇷
White ceiling is the way to go, it brightens and expands. Pine yellows with age and is ugly. Ship lap is a lot of work.
Melissa, your description of Blue is hysterical. Blue looks like a great horse.
Be where your feet are, I like that.
I don't know wood but with tile you need expansion joints or it buckles, many clients wanted to butt tiles to minimize grout but runs rixk of buckling more the jpint usually is where the vloor meets the wall so maybe that is a consideration...
Definitely white ceiling !
Creamy white with edge wood accents is my vote...Having wood ceilings totally will make the area seem smaller, especially with the canted ceiling...
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Your outdoor ceiling boards are buckling because you probably installed them when they were dry. Then comes the rainy season/snow and they adsorb moisture and expand. You should install them in winter when they're internally moistened and you'll only have them shrink in the summer when dry. Then the following winter they'll tighten up again just like they were when you installed them.
You could put up white ship lap. They put it on houses everyday. Becareful of your back.
If these were a package deal and had to come together because there friends. Please dont separate them. That would be like someone separating you and your husband and sending him off somewhere. I hope if you return them you return both of them. You can always put the little guy in the barn when working with the white horse. And kids change there minds like the wind blows. I raised 3.
Lighter ceiling...Love Blue and Whiskey. I know you will choose what is best for your family and the horses. Your compassion is contagious!
I, personally, think the creamy white will keep the space open and bright. While a wood ceiling is pretty, it also makes it feel closed in.😊
It's Dolores (Mrs. Tony) I decided to type a message directly. This is from experience of painting a great deal over my almost 70 yrs. I agree with you Melissa. If you do the full-on creamy white (with dark trim) it will give life to your small space. You chose to do those beautiful large windows, let them do their best job of bringing as much light into a bright space. It would be very subdued by a wood ceiling. Just remember, It's a lot easier to change the color of the walls than a wood ceiling. You'd never chose to paint a wood ceiling. You are making a great space for your children & guest. Keep making good choices to make the space a bright & happy place. Between you & me, it's not the wood or paint that is bringing happiness to the space... you & Jeremy is what the space needs most. You both bring joy to every space you are in, even our space. Thank you for sharing your life and your "good people" vibes. We adore you both.
A lighter ceiling will make a cozy space feel larger. Since you aren't installing uppers in the kitchen area, it doesn't matter if you have clear coat, stain or paint.
My Dad blew his back out after he threw a paper towel at the trash can & missed, then bent over to pick it up and sneezed at the same time. It took him hours to crawl from the kitchen to the living room couch. It was only 25 feet away.
As you already may know houses expand and retract over the seasons. It's always important to leave gaps to allow fluctuation. This is why your boards are buckling. Always leave a gap and cover the gaps with trims and moldings. I noticed where your tongue and groove meets the siding is too tight. So I imagine your T&G is probably also right up against the house as well. Gaps are important almost everywhere when using undried materials. Furniture wood doesn't warp because it has been properly dried. Construction lumber is not dried. It will always twist.
I think Melissa is right about the lighter ceiling. I think a dark ceiling would make the ceiling look lower and the room look smaller. But if you really want a wood ceiling, you could go with very light-colored wood.
Have a strong feeling that Blue is going to be a great horse, hes lovely❤
I hope both Blue and Whiskey settle in well with everyone.
Creamy white in the small space. I'm glad Jeremy's back is healing.
Blue is a sweet horse with your daughter. He is very relaxed.
You were initially correct to cut the back of the groove off the boards. What you need now is to also seal the back of the boards with a waterproof sealer. To make the fit you only need a little time on the table saw. Cut the board back to the required width on the top edge, then come back and clip out the backside. It only takes one horizontal cut and one vertical cut. You just have to lower the blade so it rips out the board from the bottom up till it is the same as the prior groove. Next, put the board up on the edge of the saw and run it through the saw to clip off that chunk. That will leave you with the necessary overlay and the groove to slot in without having to work it around the other groove.
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Such beautiful horses and pony! I hope they become family 🐴🐎🐎💖
I'd prefer a warm white ceiling to the pine, especially since the side walls are shorter than normal. One color will unify the space and create the illusion of greater height. Plus, no buckling!
I'm a natural wood kinda girl, so that would be my choice. Melissa, that was a "hit home" quote. I need to share it with my daughter, who is constantly 10 thoughts in at all times. Thank you.
Oh the sound of the chicken and the sheep really sounds good for a country side living.
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I LOVE the night sky up there, I live in Los Angeles, and with the lights, you don't get the stars that you do where you are. From a long-time FAN ❤
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Creamy white with dark trim
The Wildlife out there is Amazing.
Great solution ripping the groove off the planks to make them simply overlap! 👌 genius! 😊
Thanks! 👍
Creamy white ship lap for ceiling.
I have to agree with Melissa on the ceiling. A smaller space needs brightness to not feel so closed in.
We’ve had a mini for 15 years. He’s a lot of fun. But he’s an escape artist.
Absolutely a ceiling the same color as the walls because not only is the space small but the ceilings are low on the sides. Then do a big faux wood beam across the peak to bring the eye upward and make the ceiling look taller and more grand.
Creamy white ceiling! Makes the space look larger and brighter.