I liked the Langarans. And I find it incredibly hypocritical of O'Neill when he criticised them for not uniting since not only the SG program was kept secret but also O'Neill himself hated the Russians and didn't want to work with them at all
I like the fact SG1 spend the entire show going to advanced societies asking for technology to help defend themselves and then Kelowna asks them for advanced technology to defend themselves and SG1 find themselves in the same position, while they might wanna help these guys there is a real great risk they'll misuse the technology.
That’s one of the things about the show I love. They start out, as the Nox would say, young. But by the end they understand why their allies didn’t just give them everything.
I found them frustrating to watch. The constant non agreement and argumentative nature of the three representatives seemed petty. Having said that it was a true representation of how politics works. It was exactly the same when all the major countries found out about the star gate and it took Thor stepping in to make them agree that the star gate should remain in the Americans hands. While I say that they are frustrating to watch I think they are most likely to be a great ally to Earth long term. I wouldn't be surprised if Earth ended up creating a federation of planets and Langara becoming a part of that.
On top of simple separation to a different planet, the Langaran planet also had a different structure which would also influence their development. We don't know for sure as no other Langaran's were tested but it could be that their subspecies as a whole is more advanced genetically just not to the superhuman level.
I find it particularly impressive that earth has a huge amount of clout in the Milky Way, and even Pegasus galaxy, while nobody but certain military officials, specialists, and the odd politician I suppose know
@@sg-24 Honestly, that's the bigger thing that might cause chaos. The fact we're the dominant galactic power, despite having less than a million people at best involved. Imagine an Earth with everyone at least aware.
@@sg-24 Yeah, the reaction to aliens existing, and we're all considered the strongest race is going to be as interesting as the rest of the reveal stuff. I can actually see the people choosing Tau'ri partly because everyone knows us as that and also because it's a word from 'outside' Earth languages, so no one's being the dominant one there.
Jonas is probably descended from an Ancient, same with O’Neill. His genetic differences isn’t because he’s Langaran. If a few thousand years could create a different species, Native Americans would be a different species due to being isolated from other human populations for 10,000 years, but they’re not, because it takes millions of years to become a different species
I guess that would be a good explanation, but O’Neil (and other people we have seen who are descendants from Ancients) didn’t have any increased intelligence or any other special super human abilities. Only the ATA gene which let them use Ancient Tech.
@@sg-24 I think O'Neill is pretty intelligent, same with Shepard, but they just chose to never use that intelligence for math or science due to personal lack of interest. But, I don't think just being a descendant of an Ancient makes you smart, humans are basically Ancients too, save maybe a few million years of development, but still basically the same species. We can interbreed, and they made us to be them, so human intelligence and Ancient intelligence properly isn't that different, but the ones who are descendants of Ancients just have a few genetic advantages that all humans will develop in the future
@@Ooilei that's true, there's more to intelligence than just book smarts. Though with Jonas I should have chosen my words better, it wasn't so much was smarter than other people, but he seemed to have a memorization skill far better compared to others. There's actually some debate about how different humans and Ancients are to one another. I know Nerd Cookies said something a few months ago about how Ancients have a different way to compartmentalize information in their brains compared to humans, or something to that extent.
What if Janus used his time machine to place some kind of time dilation field around the planet to advance the people somehow? Then they would be more biologically advanced!🤔🙊
Actually it can take just a few generations to change a species drastically, humans do this all the time to our domesticated creatures. For example wolves to dogs but also in just recent years, cows are very different then they were 100 years ago. Pigeons are another good example. Evolution can be very fast when there is pressure, in those examples the pressure is forced breeding for specific traits. In the example of native Americans, human are were already so aaptive before the separation that there was no evolutioninary pressure for genetics to change to any extent which would stop procreation with outsiders. This is not really because of the length of time however and even if separated for a 100,000 years it is unlikely to have changed much either. Modern humans have actually changed little (comparitivly) since we can first be seen in the fossil record 300,000 years ago.
11:19 So, about that. Japan technically has a longer official name. It's officially the "State of Japan." The thing is, it's only officially used in Japanese, and for all English things, the government just says "Japan." Yeah, I spent too much time reading random things on Wikipedia
I really think that Langara is currently Earth's best ally and that Earth should focus on building them up in addition to the Tagreans and the guys with the nanobot children as these planets seams to be the most honorable and logical of the known industrial worlds.
What 🤣🤣 your joking right orther than the naquadah which Anubis pretty much depleated and was far less advanced than Earth the Tokera being there longest out of all the other Allies and the free Jaffa nation especially if Teal'c returning to help rebuild after the ori defeated which is hinted at during his trip to train Ronan for his meeting with the Iowa so please explain why would a less technological involved race who on more than one occasion were they proven to be less than liable and trust worthy one by blaming Dr Jackson for trying to save them and 2 for joining working with the alliance just because they have a former team member/employee working there who is not a high ranking leader unlike Teal'c who has alot of influence even when not a leader unlike Jonas who is a scientist/ambassador be earth closest Allie that makes no sense what so ever they offer nothing accept there naquadah which they pay for by the protection of there planet
I remember watching the first episode about Langarans, and thinking they were just one of many planets that SG1 visited for one episode, and be forgotten by the next one. And I was kinda sad, because I really liked both them, and Jonas. I'm really glad that I was wrong, and they not only returned, but Jonas became one of the main characters
The fact one moon can only be seen from the southern hemisphere and the other only during the day doesn't sound particularly plausible with orbital mechanics. The former because simply, orbits don't work like that. You're either perfectly over the equator or your're technically visible in both hemispheres, the latitudes of dependent on inclination and distance (coupled of course with planetary axial tilt). The latter technically could be placed at the Langara-[langaran sun] L1 Lagrange point (that's not confusing at all as Lagrange points are a real thing), it wouldn't stay there for any geologic length of time, and technically wouldn't be a moon. It would also be really damn far away as well so short of being unreasonably large such that its size destabilizes Langara's orbit or both end up in a "horseshoe orbit" (which would violate the daytime moon requirement for a number of reasons including not being a moon), it wouldn't really be visible. Plus you'd be staring at the sun to try spot it which is kinda unhealthy.
So I have had someone tell me this before. First why does Canada have such cool name? And second the Japan thing from what I saw if weird. In English you would just the nation Japan, but in Japanese is would be Nippon-koku (or Nihon-koku) which the literal translation is State of Japan. I don’t get it, why is it in English would wouldn’t say the state of if that is the literal translation. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but it’s just weird with the Japan thing.
@@sg-24 Canada's name is because they are a dominion in the British commonwealth of nations, Japan's goes back to the end of ww2. It had been the empire of Japan which obviously would have negative connotations to the rest of asia. After the US reorganized their gov the name was changed from empire of to state of. It wasn't an empire anymore but also not really a rep (because they had a constitutional monarchy) or a federation, confederation, or whatever so they decided to just keep it simple because it is a state so state of Japan.
@jameshagan2832 well for the Canada thing that was kind of joke. I do know they got that name from being part of the British Empire, but I’m curious as to why they didn’t change it like some other countries did like South Africa and Australia.
Funny enough I plan to do a re-lore video thing, since there’s a more detail in the RPG books. And in that it’s said the Tree-anna are the best flyers. Funny old world isn’t it.
@@sg-24 they never worked out their differences which were petty and well you see how they come across and end up destroying eachother even jack O’Neill got fed up with them
@@sg-24 both really govenment we’re well politics is politics and the people could have said enough and decided to work together but that’s my opinion I’m not trying to force my views sorry to upset you
Or no your fine, I just wasn’t sure since you are kind of right in both regards. Though I’d argue that by Universe they worked it out, off screen mind you but still.
I liked the Langarans.
And I find it incredibly hypocritical of O'Neill when he criticised them for not uniting since not only the SG program was kept secret but also O'Neill himself hated the Russians and didn't want to work with them at all
I like the fact SG1 spend the entire show going to advanced societies asking for technology to help defend themselves and then Kelowna asks them for advanced technology to defend themselves and SG1 find themselves in the same position, while they might wanna help these guys there is a real great risk they'll misuse the technology.
That’s one of the things about the show I love. They start out, as the Nox would say, young. But by the end they understand why their allies didn’t just give them everything.
Apart from the asgard, that in the end gave us literally everything they had
True, but that was after years of trust and friendship.
we had to earn the Asgard's trust
Fun fact: Langara is a college in Vancouver, British Columbia.
Kelowna is a city in British Columbia.
They were pretty super high on the annoying scale, I enjoyed it when Earth pretty much said were done with you
Your planet will blow up and we'll be mining the debris. Bye now.
I found them frustrating to watch. The constant non agreement and argumentative nature of the three representatives seemed petty. Having said that it was a true representation of how politics works. It was exactly the same when all the major countries found out about the star gate and it took Thor stepping in to make them agree that the star gate should remain in the Americans hands. While I say that they are frustrating to watch I think they are most likely to be a great ally to Earth long term. I wouldn't be surprised if Earth ended up creating a federation of planets and Langara becoming a part of that.
Just a friendly reminder: The female Goa'uld stating Jonas' genetic uniqueness is named Ni'irti, not Neytiri. Great video anyways!
Dang it, I always mess up names. Thanks for the reminder. 👍
@@sg-24 if it makes you feel better you do not only mess up names.
it is a "Nuclear bomb" not a "Nukular bomb"
On top of simple separation to a different planet, the Langaran planet also had a different structure which would also influence their development. We don't know for sure as no other Langaran's were tested but it could be that their subspecies as a whole is more advanced genetically just not to the superhuman level.
I find it particularly impressive that earth has a huge amount of clout in the Milky Way, and even Pegasus galaxy, while nobody but certain military officials, specialists, and the odd politician I suppose know
It is interesting, makes me wonder what would happen when gate is revealed to the world.
Non intergalactic travellers on Earth are oblivious what happens outside earth, similar to most inhabitants of north Korea or CNN watchers
@@sg-24 Honestly, that's the bigger thing that might cause chaos. The fact we're the dominant galactic power, despite having less than a million people at best involved. Imagine an Earth with everyone at least aware.
It is a very concerning power dynamic. I know I’ve brushed on topic before, but it really deserves its own deep dive.
@@sg-24 Yeah, the reaction to aliens existing, and we're all considered the strongest race is going to be as interesting as the rest of the reveal stuff. I can actually see the people choosing Tau'ri partly because everyone knows us as that and also because it's a word from 'outside' Earth languages, so no one's being the dominant one there.
Jonas is probably descended from an Ancient, same with O’Neill. His genetic differences isn’t because he’s Langaran. If a few thousand years could create a different species, Native Americans would be a different species due to being isolated from other human populations for 10,000 years, but they’re not, because it takes millions of years to become a different species
I guess that would be a good explanation, but O’Neil (and other people we have seen who are descendants from Ancients) didn’t have any increased intelligence or any other special super human abilities. Only the ATA gene which let them use Ancient Tech.
@@sg-24 I think O'Neill is pretty intelligent, same with Shepard, but they just chose to never use that intelligence for math or science due to personal lack of interest. But, I don't think just being a descendant of an Ancient makes you smart, humans are basically Ancients too, save maybe a few million years of development, but still basically the same species. We can interbreed, and they made us to be them, so human intelligence and Ancient intelligence properly isn't that different, but the ones who are descendants of Ancients just have a few genetic advantages that all humans will develop in the future
@@Ooilei that's true, there's more to intelligence than just book smarts. Though with Jonas I should have chosen my words better, it wasn't so much was smarter than other people, but he seemed to have a memorization skill far better compared to others.
There's actually some debate about how different humans and Ancients are to one another. I know Nerd Cookies said something a few months ago about how Ancients have a different way to compartmentalize information in their brains compared to humans, or something to that extent.
What if Janus used his time machine to place some kind of time dilation field around the planet to advance the people somehow? Then they would be more biologically advanced!🤔🙊
Actually it can take just a few generations to change a species drastically, humans do this all the time to our domesticated creatures. For example wolves to dogs but also in just recent years, cows are very different then they were 100 years ago. Pigeons are another good example. Evolution can be very fast when there is pressure, in those examples the pressure is forced breeding for specific traits. In the example of native Americans, human are were already so aaptive before the separation that there was no evolutioninary pressure for genetics to change to any extent which would stop procreation with outsiders. This is not really because of the length of time however and even if separated for a 100,000 years it is unlikely to have changed much either. Modern humans have actually changed little (comparitivly) since we can first be seen in the fossil record 300,000 years ago.
Kelowna is also the name of a town/city in British Columbia, Canada. Source of name right there
And Langara is the name of a collage. Kind of funny the way they pick their names.
It's not like Rodney would destroy a planet, let alone a whole solar system.
11:19 So, about that. Japan technically has a longer official name. It's officially the "State of Japan." The thing is, it's only officially used in Japanese, and for all English things, the government just says "Japan." Yeah, I spent too much time reading random things on Wikipedia
Really? Uh, well that is kind of interesting. Also there is no such thing as spending too much time on Wikipedia.
@@sg-24 haha, you right, there is no such a thing
I really think that Langara is currently Earth's best ally and that Earth should focus on building them up in addition to the Tagreans and the guys with the nanobot children as these planets seams to be the most honorable and logical of the known industrial worlds.
What 🤣🤣 your joking right orther than the naquadah which Anubis pretty much depleated and was far less advanced than Earth the Tokera being there longest out of all the other Allies and the free Jaffa nation especially if Teal'c returning to help rebuild after the ori defeated which is hinted at during his trip to train Ronan for his meeting with the Iowa so please explain why would a less technological involved race who on more than one occasion were they proven to be less than liable and trust worthy one by blaming Dr Jackson for trying to save them and 2 for joining working with the alliance just because they have a former team member/employee working there who is not a high ranking leader unlike Teal'c who has alot of influence even when not a leader unlike Jonas who is a scientist/ambassador be earth closest Allie that makes no sense what so ever they offer nothing accept there naquadah which they pay for by the protection of there planet
I remember watching the first episode about Langarans, and thinking they were just one of many planets that SG1 visited for one episode, and be forgotten by the next one. And I was kinda sad, because I really liked both them, and Jonas. I'm really glad that I was wrong, and they not only returned, but Jonas became one of the main characters
The fact one moon can only be seen from the southern hemisphere and the other only during the day doesn't sound particularly plausible with orbital mechanics. The former because simply, orbits don't work like that. You're either perfectly over the equator or your're technically visible in both hemispheres, the latitudes of dependent on inclination and distance (coupled of course with planetary axial tilt). The latter technically could be placed at the Langara-[langaran sun] L1 Lagrange point (that's not confusing at all as Lagrange points are a real thing), it wouldn't stay there for any geologic length of time, and technically wouldn't be a moon. It would also be really damn far away as well so short of being unreasonably large such that its size destabilizes Langara's orbit or both end up in a "horseshoe orbit" (which would violate the daytime moon requirement for a number of reasons including not being a moon), it wouldn't really be visible. Plus you'd be staring at the sun to try spot it which is kinda unhealthy.
Its the dominion of Canada and state of japan
So I have had someone tell me this before. First why does Canada have such cool name? And second the Japan thing from what I saw if weird. In English you would just the nation Japan, but in Japanese is would be Nippon-koku (or Nihon-koku) which the literal translation is State of Japan. I don’t get it, why is it in English would wouldn’t say the state of if that is the literal translation. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but it’s just weird with the Japan thing.
@@sg-24 Canada's name is because they are a dominion in the British commonwealth of nations, Japan's goes back to the end of ww2. It had been the empire of Japan which obviously would have negative connotations to the rest of asia. After the US reorganized their gov the name was changed from empire of to state of. It wasn't an empire anymore but also not really a rep (because they had a constitutional monarchy) or a federation, confederation, or whatever so they decided to just keep it simple because it is a state so state of Japan.
@jameshagan2832 well for the Canada thing that was kind of joke. I do know they got that name from being part of the British Empire, but I’m curious as to why they didn’t change it like some other countries did like South Africa and Australia.
I see one of the later model cylons present at the meeting….lol
its impressive that there are only three factions
Tree-anna; people of the trees
Funny enough I plan to do a re-lore video thing, since there’s a more detail in the RPG books. And in that it’s said the Tree-anna are the best flyers. Funny old world isn’t it.
Wow the f**ked up joke was ruined by repeating it to many times you only needed it one time
That’s… really fair. When I look back on some of my older videos I can’t help up think. Wow that’s cringe. Maybe one day I’ll got back and redo them.
Thank you, keep up the good work.
Canada’s official name is the Dominion of Canada…
@CJ Luntiz How many other lies have I been told by Wikipedia?!
0:23 What's the Goa'uld's name again?
Thanos
@@sg-24 So, the Langarans worship a Purple Alien from Planet Titan.
…….. yes
These guys are really annoying
Really? May I ask why you feel that way?
@@sg-24 they never worked out their differences which were petty and well you see how they come across and end up destroying eachother even jack O’Neill got fed up with them
Wait do you mean the race as a whole, or just the three people in the thumbnail?
@@sg-24 both really govenment we’re well politics is politics and the people could have said enough and decided to work together but that’s my opinion
I’m not trying to force my views sorry to upset you
Or no your fine, I just wasn’t sure since you are kind of right in both regards. Though I’d argue that by Universe they worked it out, off screen mind you but still.
I'm surprised Jack as the lead didn't get his johnson wet in various strange...