"THE ROMULAN WAR: A Star Trek Fan Production" (Part I)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- A documentary examining the first two years of the Earth-Romulan War.
Check out all the other Romulan War stories on our YT channel - they all connect to the film!
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It is a real treat to see how you incorporated R. Lee Ermey in as the Supreme Commander of the MACO's. Also, weaving the Stiles clan into the storyline does much to fill in the historical tapestry that was alluded to in TOS episode Balance of Terror. Well done.
I'm in my 50's & I grew up with Gene's dream.
This was absolutely amazing for a fan based production. My hat is off to you, damned impressive!
I can't wait to see part two as well. Thank you, your hard work is most appreciated. (I can't believe anyone voted this down - If they can think they can do better then let them prove it!)
I agree this is darn good.Well put together and the acting was simple supremely good.I could see this on the big screen.
This was utterly amazing , why can’t we get something this well written for actual trek ?
Lacks identity politics, so modern Trek turn their noses up at this masterpiece of a fan film
Because giving fans what they want is seen as toxic pandering.
I think they’ve forgotten the term the customer is always right.
This is what Enterprise was building up to before it was unceremoniously murdered by the network.
@@FelixIsMyName man you have no idea how much of an improvement removing identity politics from nu trek would be
@@durkin9664 or In other terms continuing the stories and characters we actually want to hear about ?
Enjoyed this, the style was great, like watching the history channel
Can’t wait for part 2
I agree. This was pretty good. It was more entertaining than most of them.
You should watch Prelude To Axanar as well then.😎
Love the documentary style! This is so much better than what CBS is putting out now! Can't wait for episode 2!
@5:17 USS Essex NCC-173!
Great reference to TNG 5x15. Thank you, that's fan service done the right way!
This is outstanding work which expertly integrates the gravitas of Prelude to Axanar, with contemporary CGI of exemplary quality. I find the actors' contributions to be well fitted in tone and execution to a retrospective presentation of cataclysmic galactic events. The storyline is cogently built, with incrementally increasing portents of the full scale engagement to come.
I can say nothing more than this being as far more representative of association with the ST brand than anything produced by Secret Hideout, just as Kirk's Enterprise was as distant from being a garbage scow (or literally garbage).
Congratulations indeed, on a great beginning to what we will be able to enjoy, in all the wonderful manifestations that it promises!!!👏👏👏🖖🖖🖖👍👍👍
Wow, that was a lot of big words just to say you liked it. I must say that I agree with you substantially.
I can't belive this is fan made. Fantastic work everyone!!!!
INDEED🤔🖖
You guys could make a better season of star trek than CBS if they only gave you Discovery's budget for shoes. Great work!
Wow what a brilliant fan production. The best I have ever seen. Would make a great mini series if anyone wanted to make one.
The Terran Empire demands a show!
I loved this it showed something that none of the shows did. Now we know why the UFP and Romulans were at war. Great job guys.
right,but is this true cannon?
That Challenger scene hit hard. Still remember when our Challenger happened.
I remember seeing the Challenger's launch & later explosion that day (I was sick from school) & how shocking & sad it was
Indeed. They put that on the TV in all the schools.
Me: **Salutes**
So do I
I'll never forget Challenger. Even though I was 5 years old when it happened. No one should ever forget Challenger.
THIS should be a movie or the next series.
BRAVO Ladies & Gentlemen.....PRoducers, Writers, Directors, Superb Actors, ACTION Battle Scenes/Effects...Sound...Authentic Wow!!...😎🖖✌= MAGNIFICENT PRODUCTION INDEED STAR TREK ORIG!! @The Romulan War...🤛🙌👏👏🎬
Looking forward to part 2. Best trek since star trek continues
This needs to get a part two!
4:14 I love the fact you integrated some old 1970s anime sound effects in the explosion.
4:53 THE GUNNY!!!
^^ sharp eyes and ears, highlander!
I bet they would have used R. Lee Ermey for that character if Enterprise had continued too...
So I was not the only one to hear a "Yamato-like" explosion sound there!
Very well done! Thank you for all of your hard work. Looking forward to the next installment.
The dream will never die, that sky to wonderful people like you guys, despite the efforts of Kurzman and co... Trek will survive!
That was extremely enjoyable! And thank you so much sneaking in an R Lee Ermey tribute in there. Awesome!
I love the look of the Romulan "D-7" "Stormbird".
Some complaints:
1. It's a bit odd to see the marauder drone at work at Salem 1, and then still be the 'secret' weapon that the coalition forces 'couldn't know what awaited them'. Albeit I suppose that it could be explained that there is a world of difference between shutting ships down, and literally hacking and controlling them in the later battle. Also, I suppose that the success of the attack on Salem 1 meant that relatively little info of the new marauder drone weapon was revealed?
2. The Urroth archaeological dig went on for quite some time? And the planet was mined and had two ships guarding it for years? It wouldn't have been too unspeakable for there to have been a facility or colony for the earth forces to have nuked, justified or not. I'm not sure where the archaeological subplot is going, but it is an element dividing Romulan forces. I liked the call back to ENTERPRISE in that it was a 'Romulan world' that Archer returned to.
3. My biggest issue is that the Romulans had poor intelligence over the Andorians. Why? The Romulans had infiltrated Vulcan at the highest levels, Vulcan had their own intelligence at work on the Andorians for years; the Romulans should have known everything about the Andorians until recently. They might have had plenty of their own intelligence at work in order to have kidnapped that telepathic guy from under the ice in the isolated community that even the Andorian government knew little about. That implies a big operation and/or a ship operating right in orbit to snatch him. Also, the Andorians are an obvious rival, the 2nd greatest threat after the Vulcans in the immediate neighborhood.
Rather than a blunder due to low intelligence, I would have framed the battle as a risky attack based ON intelligence. Attacking a home system in a situation with much of the fleet home with some allies present is obviously risky, but--but the chance for a decisive battle to destroy the Andorian fleet and depopulate much of the Andorian system would have made for a tempting target. The wargames might have led to confusion and delay time in detecting and responding to the Romulan attack. And, the Tele-capture marauder drones could provide the overwhelming advantage. I might have had the undisclosed system navigation hazard to befuddle and slow the Romulans, and speedy response, and Romulan optimism bias to have made it a bloody battle for both sides.
Indeed, the Romulan losses were severe, but they very nearly accomplished their objectives. The Andorian and human task forces were wiped out or badly savaged, and Andoria barely saved from nuclear attack. Even with the failure of the attack on Andoria's population centers, the battle could still be almost characterized as a Pyrrhic strategic victory for the damage it caused to coalition forces. Andoria's military contributions being badly curtailed in the immediate future. And Andoria might be considered the TRUE tactical opponent if Vulcan is taken off the table.
Of course, what the Federation believes and teaches two centuries into the future and what really happened might be two different things!
Congrats:
1. I actually love the battle of Andoria despite my issue of intelligence leading up to it. The Andorian 'ice tong' ships kicking some ass, the Columbia making the greatest sacrifice makes call backs to the Styles family AND the loss of Columbia were great.
2. The Alpha Centauri colony and attack made a lot of sense. It's a loss of an independent human nation and a big system of shipyards. And 500,000 folks.
3. The customized ships were interesting. The 'primitive Mirandas' and 'early Kelvin type' ships looked great. I also liked the Pioneer ships and the idea that they probably played a major role into why there were 500,000 people on Alpha Centauri to die was interesting.
4. Your main actors are doing well!
Nice job filling out the Romulan War era!
A VERY thoughtful critique, Larqven01 and I will address your issues:
1) No humans survived the attack on Salem One to report about the Romulans' weapon. It is still an unknown when they encounter the Romulans again at Algeron.
2) Unroth had two ships guarding it that we know of and they were encountered four years earlier. Chambers tells us that Unroth had "some kind of mining operation" which is presumably what Archer's fleet reported upon arrival at Unroth. Our Romulan expert Kovallus, who is in a position to know the truth, corrects the record by saying that it was actually a "archaeological expedition that was preparing to leave the planet." Yes, the Romulans were looking for something on Unroth and their search had clearly been winding down when Starfleet arrives. The Romulans' search is the prime reason why they are in Coalition space in the first place and what they're looking for will be revealed in Part II.
3) There is no evidence from canon that the Vulcans had any kind of detailed intelligence on the Andorians. At least not about their home system or its disposition of forces - which is all that's really relevant here. And keep in mind that the "conspiracy" of Romulan sympathizers inside the Vulcan High Command amounted to only one person we know of - V'Las - who is presumably in prison at this time and cannot divulge any more information to his Romulan contact(s).
As for this notion that the Romulans (Valdore and Nijil) could have gotten intel from the Aenar they'd captured (Garab)... remember that the Aenar were outcasts from the Andorian society for centuries - most Andorians didn't think they were even real. So it's pretty unlikely, if not impossible that Gareb could have any knowledge whatsoever of Andorian military capabilities - assuming the Romulans even tried to get that information from him. Which... why would they? That's not even what they'd abducted him for. They abducted him specifically to use his telepathic abilities to pilot the Marauder - not as a source of intelligence on the Andorian system. We also don't know how Gareb was abducted, but we do know that it could NOT have been a "big operation" or the Andorians would have detected it. Most likely, the Romulans paid someone off to go to Andoria as a spy, look for the Aenar, kidnap one of them, then slip out and rendezvous with their contacts outside of Andorian space.
Also, the "navigational hazard" in the Andorian system was shown on screen... the small gas cloud near the homeworld that Shran and his squadron were hiding in. The Romulans had no idea that it was there or that there would be an ambush waiting from inside. Whether you consider that a "navigational hazard" depends on your perspective and in Admiral Jefferies' opinion, it was since it was directly impairing the Romulans' ability to exploit the element of surprise they may have been hoping for and win the battle.
The rest of what you are talking about is largely speculation and is no more or less valid then the scenario we have in TRW, but you hit on a lot of points that are correct. The Battle of Andoria was bloody, the good guys got hammered too even though they had the home-field advantage, but it was the first time there was a chink in the Romulans' armor. And yes, it was absolutely a Pyrrhic victory for the Coalition and the Romulans did succeed in inflicting heavy damage to the Andorian Imperial Guard... but it was a Coalition victory nonetheless.
All this to say that the Praetor's strategy to attack Andoria was a bad one - regardless of who won the battle. It finally allowed Earth to credibly say to all of its partners (who had started to walk away from the whole thing) "they're coming for you next after they finish with us." D'Deridex's hubris allowed Earth to solidify its alliance and it made true believers out of the Andorians, who let's remember had only met humans a couple of years earlier in limited fashion. Now they are comrades in arms thanks to the Praetor's overreach and Challenger's sacrifice for their homeworld. This is exactly what Admiral Valdore had tried to warn his Praetor about and he was ignored. This will cost the Romulans dearly.
Now to address your Congrats (and yes, we're glad you balanced your critique and included these):
1) Challenger's suicide run came out better than I thought it would. Several users so far have commented on this and I think that's a testament to the moving score by Adam Mullen and the performance by actor Brian Holloway that viewers can be moved by that scene, even though we never actually saw Stiles or his crew on camera. Bravo to both of them for making that scene work!
2) The Alpha Centauri sequence has to happen to show the full devastation and brutality the Romulans are bringing to bear on humanity. Glad you liked it.
3) You picked out three ships - the Poseidon (Miranda) class, the Einstein (Kelvin) class, and the Pioneer (Starfleet Museum) class - that I think makes the Earth fleet feel more "real" and rounded-out. These are ships with vastly different mission profiles and they are all coming together to become ships of war out of desperation and necessity. Also... you are spot-on about the massive Pioneer-class transports being key to the migration of so many people to Alpha Centauri. We have some more on that we're going to talk about later and suffice to say, I am glad someone picked up on it. Details!
4) Yes, despite the bullshit snark I've seen from some... our actors did a bang-up job and I am immensely proud of all the performances. Every actor played the role they were asked to play. That includes Mazzone's over-the-top delusional Praetor, who let's remember.. is only seen in Part 1 beating his chest in front of crowds. Anyone who has seen a politician speak in front of a crowd knows this is the appropriate tack to take. I think sometimes people forget how melodramatic Star Trek is and has always been, especially in its depiction of its villains. Why this is acceptable in "real" Trek but not in a fan production is beyond me. And let's be real: the people complaining about the actors could never do better if the camera was on them instead.
I want to end all of this by saying I am incredibly appreciative of your comments here about the story elements. Most of the comments don't do a deep-dive like you have and I wish more people would focus on this because... well, I'm a major canon-nerd and a lot of thought went into this stuff. Anyway, thanks for commenting!
- Mark
@@TheRomulanWar Thank YOU Mark! For both your hard work on your production and your explanations.
1. For the Battle of Salem 1, I was wondering if the colony at Beringeria (spelling?) had received streaming battle data or not. Or if the colony was captured? Since 'only' a few thousand were killed, the colony wasn't destroyed. The tele-capture drone might have been recorded with ships shutting down, but, precisely because ships were shutting down, little was probably transmitted.
2. Because Vulcan and Andoria were locked in a cold war, and the Vulcans had that massive listening post under the monastery which figuratively allowed Vulcan intelligence to 'know what every Andorian was having for breakfast', (and that Vulcans proved adept secret agents as well in another episode) the Romulans should have known quite a lot. The Romulans were basically RULING Vulcan as behind the scenes puppet-masters at the time. If they had a guy so highly placed, there might well be a hundred other agents in operation in Vulcan.
The Aenar guy (Garab) wasn't such a great intelligence source in himself--but the fact that the Romulans even knew about the Aenar at all, and where to find them, (something maybe even the Vulcans didn't know)--suggests that the Romulans did have quite an operation to set it up.
I'm not trying to nit-pick; I'm just surprised that the Romulans didn't know much about Andor when the Andorians are fairly prominent players. I also tend to think of the Romulans as less militarily powerful than you are portraying, but very well informed to compensate. Getting intelligence of the upcoming wargames with the humans and deciding 'there will be so many ships there--let's attack!' 'It will be risky!' 'We have the marauder drone! It's worth the risk!'
I don't mind the attack occurring due to hubris and losing sight of certain strategic goals; with their run of easy victories, it's not so surprising. I just thought they ought to be making a 'more intelligent' form of blunder.
I'm surprised that I didn't make the connection with the gas cloud. I guess I was just thinking of icy rings and lots of moons and asteroids, and gravitational and magnetic issues related to the gas giant Andor orbits.
3. The 'suicide run' is great! Yeah, it's very melodramatic with the long run and a long winded self-eulogy; but when it ends in a great sacrifice for such a great reward, it's worth it. I'm old enough to remember Challenger and the Challenger Speech, it all worked for me! And, yeah, making dramatic speeches is an important skill for officers, particularly in Star Trek!
4. It's really nice to finally SEE something of Alpha Centauri, and in a matter of sentences get a feel for the colonizing effort, and separatist type politics that developed. It does get across Romulan cruelty, and also that Romulans KNOW so much, but understand much less. In a weird way, ENTERPRISE made Vulcans and Romulans quite similar beyond physicality; Vulcan intelligence and hidden motives being a big part of it.
5. I do love the ships you've added. I DO somewhat question if the Romulans could have built their 'Klingon' cruiser and dreadnought at this time. Albeit, with their spy operations and the plug into Vulcan Intelligence, they might well have been able to gained the technology and schematics for building them?
I hope to hear more of your new ships.
I love the Poseidon Class! I don't know if it's a new ship or an old pre-warp 2 ship that has been upgraded? As Warp 2 was only broken a decade or so previously (if you care to work within that; it solves some continuity problems and creates others), one could imagine a 'modern' warship to guard the colonies and trade routes not many years before Warp 2 was broken.
The Einstein Class IS the Einstein class? It looks like it has a half-saucer hull? I'll have to look again. A brand new ship? An advanced civilian ship being refitted for war? It will be interesting to find out. I probably would have put it later, but it's fun to see. It does have a 'utilitarian' look to go with its beauty. It does show that single nacelle starships were possible early on.
The Pioneer and its fellow big, primitive ships look great! I remember being surprised by the design ascetic when I first saw them on DeviantArt. They've grown on me though, I'm glad you've been able to bring them to life. They make so much sense in a 'realistic' space ship way; especially in matters of colonizing and trade.
As technology progresses, ships will actually tend towards getting smaller than larger. The NX is comparable in size to the Constitution primary hull; The largest ships of the Vulcans, Andorians and now, the Romulans, won't be superseded by Star Fleet until the TNG era.
Presumably, a large ship can easily enter warp, but have significant issues at higher warp speeds?
It looks like the NX ships are finally getting cranked out quickly now that the prototype has had a considerable shakedown and the production model (Columbia) is out the door. A good thing, as a lot of them are doomed. So many that I'm wondering if any will be upgraded?
To me, there's no question that the Daedalus Class has been around for awhile. It just has such a primitive look to it that it HAS to predate other ENTERPRISE ships even though actual canon doesn't support that notion. It does look lean and mean next to ships the bulk ships like the Pioneer. I have to think that the Nausicaan pirates weren't too impressed with them; but they'd be the best humanity had for decades? Now, they are getting upgraded, and, surprisingly be around for years to come.
6. I've seen a lot of You-Tube Star Trek productions. Your actors are great!
Good luck with finishing TRW!
@@larqven0192 SHAP SIX!!
1) Nearly everyone who was killed at Berengaria were the people on the station and the nearby starships. Only a handful of people are on the colony below and likely they didn't even know the attack was happening - they are scientists in the wild studying the dragons of Berengaria. After the Romulans destroy the station, they send a ship down to take prisoners. Suffice it to say, between the deaths of all the people in orbit and the Romulans jamming communications in the war zone, Earth has no idea about the Romulans' hijacking technology. They do however, know that it was the Romulans who invaded. This is going to be addressed in one of our "War Stories" episodes.
2) The Vulcans could observe Andorian movements in the region, but specific defenses and deployments in their home system? Possibly, but probably not. We know the Romulans do have at least enough knowledge to know where to exit from FTL and begin their attack run. That is the extent of their intel. Also, we know that V'Las was a Romulan asset, but there is no reason to believe that anyone else was intentionally helping the Romulans on Vulcan. V'Las was First Minister and the only people helping him were doing so because of the chain of command and their duty to the First Minister.
3) I was in science class watching live when Challenger exploded. It was also a powerful experience for me as I was one of the kids who was all-in on NASA and the space program (not to mention Star Trek).
4) Agree with everything you said.
5) Since we envisioned the Stormbird, it has been a lightning rod of controversy. We've tried to explain why and how the Stormbird came to be (short version: they invented Stormbird, Klingons steal the design and use it as the basis for the D-7 later), but we'll be putting out a Romulan version of our "Ships of the Line" video to make it more clear. Look for it in the spring.
Glad you liked our other ships. Have you checked out our website yet? We have a few pages of the TRW starship specs there:
www.theromulanwar.com/ships
We also have a basic timeline of events going from First Contact to the beginning of the Earth-Romulan War:
www.theromulanwar.com/the-world-of-the-romulan-war
**Spoiler Alert** Yes you will see the NX refit in TRW Part II.
6) You're right... our actors did a great job, no matter what snarky non-actors have to say about it. Making this kind of dry, academic material seem interesting is hard to do and they all pulled it off IMHO. As for the Praetor... he is clearly posturing and pandering for his audience and he does that very dramatically.
@@TheRomulanWar Thank you for your explanations and links! I spent some time going through the info.
Berengaria Attack: The Romulan jamming explains a lot. One might question how earth was certain enough that the Romulans were behind it to declare war. An easy answer might be that the Vulcans provided that confirmation as a Vulcan ship did escape. Assuming they didn't want to sit on the info. Given Vulcan's time in space, as well as obvious inside knowledge, I'd expect that they knew a LOT of the Romulans that they weren't telling. And were perhaps beside themselves as to what to do.
Ships: 'De-evolving' the Einstein Class so that it looks like an ENTERPRISE era ship was well done! But, upon reflection, I'd still probably place it as a design emerging in the early years of the 23rd Century. Largely, due to its single nacelle design which it would have shared with some other such ship classes such as the Saladin (even if they are beta-canon). Granted, this is a nitpick, and a good job was done to make it match; but in this case I'd have left the Einstein closer to the era it appears in.
The Stormbird as the progenitor of the D7? I'll probably have to be on the other side of that argument. While TOS and the ENTERPRISE pilot (and DISCOVERY, should we want to include that) prove that Klingons can be secret agents, they aren't so thematically known for it. More to the point, the Klingons in ENTERPRISE already have D7-esque cruisers. In some appearances, the model used should have been better 'de-evolved', but doubtlessly were meant to show that the 'classic D7' was on its way in Klingon ship design.
Even the primitive, apparently old, 'civilian' Klingon pirate ship that was extorting an alien colony showed that the essential design had been around for decades, or longer. If the Klingons had been the party to have stolen the ship design, it would have had to have been from some proto-Stormbird design several decades earlier. Klingons blundering into a Romulan system and having a ship fall into Romulan hands to be reverse engineered seems a more likely explanation.
@@larqven0192 You've mostly nailed it on the Berengaria attack, but there was an actual radio transmission the Romulans sent into Coalition space taking responsibility and declaring their intentions. This was not in the film because we can't include everything in the film (and it doesn't really HAVE to be in there for the audience to know Earth is at war), but we will be exploring that piece in another story.
We liked the idea of the Einstein class being the predecessor for the Prime Universe's version of the Kelvin. They are primarily just a science vessel, which is really what Starfleet/UESPA is up to during this time period. Whatever explanation people have for a ship with one nacelle... we're using that! LOL BTW, if all goes as planned, we will see a really cool sequence with the Einsteins in Part II.
The Romulan Stormbird is first deployed during the "Dueling Birds War" (Romulan vs. Klingons), which was in the late 2130's. We will be putting out a video explaining the whole thing that I think you will enjoy and which does not conflict with Trek canon.
Thanks for your comments! I am glad you are enjoying our little universe, such as it is.
That was epic! Thank you for making this. Love the story and very much looking forward to the next episode.
OK, first off, GREAT JOB. The matte backgrounds and script are top-notch. Kudos to all involved.
But I've got to tell you... at 1:35 'The Age of Archer'... I literally snorked soda up my nose. My very first thought when I saw that was "Danger zone...." 🤣
This is WOW, really awesome, so much better than expected. Keep it up.
thank you professional fans i hope to see more
It's not too different than Axanar...but more complicated.
Better.
4:04 this is a fine CG! Overally looks like this fan art had some budget. Better than expected, well done!! I even liked Andorian Rose Tico.
Wow absolutely awesome vid. As a lifelong Trek fan l just love it!!
Made with love and respect. I love it. Live Long and Prosper!
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Absolutely incredible work! Kudos!! Can't wait for part 2.
Wow! Immersive! This is Trek! I like the new shows, but can something be too well done? Like Use Your Illusion I and II? That's new Trek. Flash. That's OK, people like it. This one the effects don't get in the way of the story.
I do miss the voice of the Federation computers since we lost Majel Barrett.
Bravo!
That was GREAT!!!! Can't wait for Part 2!!!
Paramount keeps going with piles of dung from Kurtzman and JarJar Abrahms. This is the kind of Star Trek that made it great. Why can't we get more of this?
I can't wait for part 2!!!!!
An impressive “historical” narrative story with amazing visual of starships battling it out.
I’m curious about the storyline. Is it based on previous story of Romulan War or is this an inventive idea???
Glad you enjoyed it. This is an original story, though we do pay tribute to a couple of plot elements from the novels like the Romulan tele-capture weapon and the Coridan Incident in our "Preamble to War" webisode:
ruclips.net/video/oak98ZLVvMw/видео.html
Excellent first view
I certainly hope there will be a Part 2......3........MORE!
Well done.
Finally. Another Star Trek worth watching. Fan made? Of course.
it was fantastic
Very good job.
Tis was fantastic and very well done. How soon before Part 2 is available?
Good to see Captain Archer on the NX-01 bridge again!
One question. What the hell? This trek is better than what they feed us in cinemas.
Great Video
very good , want to see more.
That was great! Damn good work!
Ah that was so cool, well done
Yay! Well done.
exelente trabajo! o disfrute de principio a fin.
EXCELLENT!!
Nice !
Awesome
love the r lee ermy usage
That was great.
Except for the colosseum footage, pretty darn good!
This is awesome
Awsome work. I love it :)
Damn good job!!!😎
This is far superior to any film made, there is thought, respect and continuity of original ST series rather than the rape and pillage of ideas jumbled into a shoddy superficial carcass of a so-called new Kelvin time line by producers of the ST movies.
SUBBED! tng kid here. big hug
very nice
The whole thing has to do with early Romulan history. The Romulans are descendants of Vulcans who did not want to follow Surak's teachings and who gathered around the bird of prey banner. These Vulcans left Vulcan with spaceships whose top speed was maximum impulse. These remote planets were stopovers for the early Romulans until they discovered the planet they later named Romulus. Romulus is the complete opposite of Vulcan, with lush grasslands, dense forests and rivers, as well as seas full of fish and a blue sky.
It is also possible that the Romulan settlers who left Vulcan encountered some kind of wormhole that brought them near what is now Romulus even though their ships were so slow. It's also possible that this wormhole gained an almost religious significance to those old Romulans which has influenced some of them to continue searching for it over the centuries so they can go back and get revenge on their Vulcan brothers and/or grow their empire.
@@TheRomulanWar Your thesis is also very plausible. I am right in one respect with my thesis that the Romulans are descended from Vulcan's who rejected the teachings of Surak. That was in the 4th century of the human timescale after a devastating nuclear war on Vulcan. Surak suffered from radiation sickness. At least that's what it says in Memory Alpha, as I've just found out. . The English Memory Alpha is somehow much more detailed than the Memory Alpha in German. Honestly, I'm more worried about the prediction of World War III in Star Trek right now, which lasted from 2025 to 2053 in the Star Trek timeline. I don't know exactly, but I think I read that some nuclear weapons were only used at the late end in 2053. Several wars are currently running parallel to the Ukraine war. Venezuela also wants to annex two thirds of Guyana and the new president of Argentina wants to assert his claim to the Falkland Islands, including by force. It is possible that all of this will lead to a chain reaction in 2025. On the other hand, I think humanity and its leaders may need a horrible shock that people will stop waging war against each other forever.
Yes, everything you wrote about the Vulcan/Romulan schism came from the "United" trilogy of episodes in S4 of ENT.
I've always laughed when I hear people say "I wish we had the future that Star Trek has" because they forget that in order for us to get to that utopia, there's a nuclear war that kills like 1/3 of the human race and it will happen during most of our lifetimes. Yikes!
Be careful what you wish for lol
@@TheRomulanWar I think humanity must first go through hell to finally renounce war among themselves. Humanity that treats each other with benevolent tolerance can achieve so much. Abolition of poverty, health care for all people on earth, housing for all people on earth, education for all people on earth and food for all people on earth. The earth has enough resources for everyone, everything is just unfairly distributed. It cannot be that 1% of the world's population occupies 99% of the earth's wealth and the remaining 1% is left for the rest of the people to fight over like two dogs over a bone. I'm not a communist, I'm just a realist that this is politically explosive and could lead to open, massive violence all over the world in the next 100 years, which will be exacerbated by climate change. The rich don't care about climate change, they can build a city or several cities below sea level without giving up the comfort they are used to. Even if the Earth does not have sufficient resources for this, the rich will finance a space mission to the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter to carry out automated mining there, as the asteroids are full of raw materials. To prevent the rich from dying of thirst, they will finance seawater desalination plants and the associated purification systems. There is talk of water shortages all over the world, but nobody has yet thought of building seawater desalination plants with the associated purification systems. With rising sea levels due to climate change, this is the perfect source of water.
20:03 What class are the Athena and her sister ship? Never seen it before but it looks fantastic.
That's a Poseidon-class destroyer and is a predecessor to the Miranda class ship we see in TWOK. All the info on the ships of The Romulan War is on our website:
www.theromulanwar.com/ships
the romulans were one challenge starfleet faced then came the klingons
A Documentary that beat Axanar to the punch. ;)
I wish Scott bakula GUEST STAR WITH JEFFREY COMBS IN THE NEXT ROMULAN WAR EPISODE HOPE AND WISH SO
I have only one question. When is the next installment?
Is this lore friendly?
Hey, this is pretty damn good!
FOR REAL????
I am 63 years old.
I am from Hollywood.
I grew up with the original STAR TREK.
What you have done here?
Magnificent.
Thank you.
I totally agreed awesome thank you cant wait for part 2
I am 64 and went to the protest at Burbank Studio when canceled...all the rest the same as you. Its great...try " Fairest of them all" youtube...
Very well Done with the Feeling of the Realization of the SHOWS😊.
24:19 Thanks, that was awesome! 🖖
I honestly thought by season 4 Enterprise show would do the Romulan War for season 5 or 6. When it was cancelled I was SO upset!
You would think CBS would know ST fans would love it to have that particular ST history shown. DS9 with the Dominion War was a huge hit!
no can-do, that sort of thing isn't woke!
I was waiting it so shattered when it did not happen
The only reason Star Trek was having the Dominion war was because Babylon 5 was having the shadow war that was getting more views. I guess Babylon 5 showed Star Trek how to get more viewers to tune in. Anyway thanks Babylon Five for turning Star Trek from space sissies to almost badass. The UFP space hippies still have some ways to go from being bully magnets but they are starting grow a sit.
@@neganrex5693 To be fair, DS9 wasn't like any of the other Star Trek shows before or ever since, due to the unrelenting realpolitik of Captain Sisko. He was a religiou leader, a military commander, and one of the few Starfleet officers willing to do what was needed to secure peace in the midst of a rising Dominion aggression and plots against the Federation. TNG was an era of peace that only got shattered by the Borg, but it was still mostly peaceful with a few flare-ups. DS9 was unstable era of conflict with huge stakes.
Beyond that, DS9 introduced elements other star trek shows have tried and failed to incorporate properly like Section 31, a spy agency that was secret that acted as judge, jury, and executioner. All the other shows after tried to copy it, tried to conceive stories around this mysterious secret police/intelligence agency, but failed miserably. To me, Star Trek revealed the reality and social commentary about the costs of civilization and nationhood, whether it's Romulan Tal Shiar or Cardassian Obsidian Order being akin to Russian FSB and Chinese MIS agencies versus Federation's Section 31 akin to US own NSA agency, no nation-state democratic or totalitarian can maintain itself without such means. Something most Trekkies back then and now fail to accept or want to accept is that such tools are necessary to preserve paradise in whatever form the civilization behind them wants. Kind of kills that notion of individuality and freedom being ultimate goals.
Then, there was Sisko's false flag operation against the Romulans in order to win the War against the Dominion. No other Star Trek or Sci-Fi show to that point had ever done something like In the Pale Moonlight, because no one dared to challenge the notion that the ends justify the means. He willingly allowed another nation to send an army to fight for his in order to stave off defeat. Were his goals noble? Depends on the eye of the beholder, humanity would agree it was, but Romulans and Dominion Citizens who died due to his actions would call him a war criminal. However, they won the war and ultimately that is what mattered, survival of the Federation first rather than morality or ethics. Even Babylon 5 didn't go down that route, Sheridan and Delenn most controversial actions like using telepaths as suicide bombers was a pale shadow to the billions of lives Sisko and Garak eventually killed through their actions.
That kind of social commentary is far more controversial than talking about gender, race, or ethnic identity because at its core, it challenges the very notion of liberty and free will. DS9 was beyond Woke, it was fully awake and dealt with reality rather than pretending little issues define it. Victory is life, indeed.
Not a fan of "DS9" or "Discovery". I preferred "Star Trek Continues" and "Enterprise"!
This has made me realize just how badly I want an ongoing, in-universe, Trek Documentary that covers the history of The Federation. Well done!
The Federation News Service should have its own series I think....heck it should have it's own completely streamed TV channel :D
there was a book published in 1977-78 call the star trek compendium that gave a detailed history and time line from 1950 to 2280. it must be available on some download site or book shop.
I’d settle for Romulan Earth war. So teased. So many ideas. Ugh
@@thewizzard3150
Shatner rewrote all that.
This is far more interesting than Discovery and doesn't rewrite a whole race.
So wäre es in Star Trek Enterprie (Archer) weiter gegangen. Scheiss auf Discovery.😢
General Casey is Gunny!
Holy shit I need to see this NOW
I also just need to comment about how much I appreciate the CG work. The custom ship models like the new Earth Starfleet warships, the larger Andorian ship designs, that Romulan-Klingon hybrid ship and the NX03, the details are so precise, you can easily tell there's so much passion in this. Thank you for such close attention to detail, and for the diversity in ship designs!
Lot of good ship design!
All they need is someone who sounds like him.
Who's the guy that plays the romulan commander? He seems very familiar, but I can't put my finger on it.
Design is taken from the pc game " Bridge Commander"
Does he have any major malfunctions or numb nuts? 😂
Thus begins a period of history we wanted to see. But never got a chance to. Ad Astra
Need part 2, good job!
@@josephshorr6781 So say we all : )
@kirkrules66 blame that CBS exec who went down during the me too sex scandals. He hated star trek
Per Aspera
@@josephshorr6781 Agree!
I trust fans way more than anyone in Hollywood to make Star Trek movies and Series. This 24:31 minute fan fiction is better than Star Trek Discovery and ALLL of the last three star trek JJ Abrams movies. I wished CBS or paramont didn't own Star trek... We need people who understand star trek and appreciate the product to own it.
Uhhhhh fuck yeah and by FAR.
The one major historical event in Star Trek lore thats needed to be told for the longest time. I really like how they also picked up on Station Salem-1, I always thought this is what Picard had been referring to. Very good stuff, wonderful job.
If only Enterprise had gotten that last season...The one good thing that show was building to. That Dark Mirror two parter was too little too late.
when did Picard reference this?
I'd previously heard Salem-1 associated with the Tholians, etc - maybe in RPG stuff? But Romulan links often come up regarding it, also.
@@BaronFeydRautha I actually really enjoyed the Xindi war saga, the later Season 4 arc and the developing of the friendship between Archer and Shran. But yeah, not getting the Romulan War was beyond a bummer! :(
@@jimmycrawford2977 He's referring to the episode "The Enemy". Here is the line;
"But we must measure our response carefully, or history may remember Galorndon Core along with Pearl Harbour and Station Salem One as the stage for a bloody preamble to war."
The way the line is delivered, it doesn't sound like a second item being listed.
This is fantastic. The enterprises next season that never was. You have no idea how long I've waited for something like this.
Brilliant.
Man I could never forget that speech Regan gave after Challenger blew up that last part always made me tear up.. "They have slip the bounds of Earth and touched the face of god!" When a lot of people around me lost it crying it was a dark time when they took place in 86. What image that always lived in my mind of the disaster was the fireball which was being somewhat encircled by the two rockets that continued to spin out of control.
I was watching it from my classroom in grade school. One of those moments you can't forget, like 9/11.
I was at GSU in Atlanta when it happened. During my lunch break between classes, I heard a report on my Walkman radio and went into the student centre to watch it on TV. The next day, we had a memorial service in the chapel. Together, many students of various faiths were together and even prayed and sang without any rancor that I could see. It was different on 9/11, but I had already graduated and working by then. Still, we should remember: "Never forget" (for both).
Same here.
Im glad they included nukes. A piece of star trek lore that the big studios wouldve easily left out.
Nukes in Star Trek is kind of weird. Most of the hull upgrades in the 23rd century made nukes pretty useless, and a nuclear apocalypse happened on Earth so it's likely that the Federation would avoid these things. Romulans had self destruct using nukes, but that was pretty much it.
Can't wait to see Part II. Well done.
@@ashlynnp.9609 it's not weird if you remember Balance of Terror Spock says that the weapons were nuclear and that there was no quarter given and either side ever saw their adversary. Basically they're keeping to original Canon as best they can. Also remove this is not the 23rd century but the 22nd. They're not as advanced yet.
@@michaelbateman8469 I hope we dont have to wait forever for part 2. Really want to see it soon.
"No view screens"???
I'll be damned. It's Star Trek... made by people who genuinely cared about the production, based the series on actual lore and focused on telling a decent story. ...It's been a while.
@Eric:.... Well said, I totally agree...thank you for posting!
Here here 🍻
Its been a long road...
This is what every Star Trek fan wanted. Not Discovery, not Lower Decks, and not Picard. This is what we wanted.
You speak for yourself. 🤦🏼♂️
Michael Echo, And without question, many, many others.
Amen to that.😢
Picard was fine especially season 3.
Lower Decks slaps.
All we can say is WOW! The fans have been looking forward to seeing what would happen in season five of Star Trek: Enterprise. This is it!!!
I'm tickled pink that they got a guy who's normally a comedian (Jeff Allen) to play Adm. Mathias Jefferies. Jeff's comedy routines are some of the best stand-up routines out there. Maybe his sense of humor will come into play for this character at some point. And It would be ironic if they got Jeffrey Combs to play a Romulan part for this :D
This would have been season 5 of Enterprise.
Enterprise was totally in the spirit of Star Trek.
@@Karen1963Yorks cant under stand why it was cancelled and the last ep of s4 showed tht they did not care anymore and reduced it from 24 eps to 22 reason because if it hit 100 a syndicate could of been taken out to carry it on enterprise was the last good trek we had what came after has been garbage even picard
@@paulus121212 I wouldn't describe ENT S4 as "they didn't care anymore". It was more a desperation thing - they were willing to experiment, they wanted to impress, they wanted to answer a lot of loose canon questions, they wanted to give Star Trek a graceful and majestic sendoff, they were hoping that wide appeal to fans might keep the show on air for another season.
They might have even succeeded if not for pompous old Riker's uninvited and unwanted appearance in the final episode.
@@paulus121212 Please speak in sentences and use punctuation. Reading that made my brain hurt.
@@paulus121212 The only reason I can think for ENT to have flopped, at least among diehard Trekkies, is the focus they had on the 'Temporal Cold War' arc in the first 3 seasons. It certainly jarred me a bit, but when I saw what they were moving towards in Season 4, I got very excited and thought ENT finally found its footing... At least until it was cancelled. Damn shame too, but apparently there's been a growing movement to bring Enterprise back and continue where it left off. I just hope they don't taint it with any of Discovery's nu-Trek garbage if they do.
Trekyards brought me here. Can’t wait to see the film on Monday.
There's a film?
Excellent Episode! A million times better than ST:D or ST:P or any of the "short treks" Kurtzman could ever make.
Please, next time you want to make a Star Trek episode, could you please contact me? I would like to fund it and act in it as well if possible. Thanks in Advance.
Me too not to act but to support you guys. Is there any way you guys can release DVDs for sale
This was really awesome cant wait for part 2!
I'll take this kind of Trek over whatever the big studio is creating every day of the week, simply because it FEELS like Trek again. THANK YOU, for creating some Trek that we can just enjoy for the sake of enjoyment. :)
Fan films might have to work under Secret Hideout guidelines to avoid legal action... but it says nothing of fan documentaries.
Trek returns not in the hands of big budget and big names, but in the hands of those who love trek not for what it can be sold for but love of the universe herself🥺. Thank you romulan war, thank you.
True dat
The sad thing is if Enterprise wasn't canceled when it was we would have gotten the Romulan Wars as much as I don't like prequels I would love to see a prequel set in the prime timeline during the Romulan War
@@davfree9732 Well, not yet anyways.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'm French I don't yet master the English language enought but I feel that I will make efforts so much this fan production is so promising. I have always loved the the universe of Star trek for It's story based on exploration and discovery of new cultures.
To come back to the fan film I find it well done.
"Bravo" to the team of "The Romulan War".
very excited about this! the earth-romulan war has never been properly covered in canon or otherwise
Nice tribute to the officer that was on the bridge of the Enterprise in Balance of TError
Paul Comi Lieutenant Stiles.
Another fan-film that leaves CBS 'oficial' material on the dust!
This is the Star Trek we deserved. A huge thanks to the director and crew behind this wonderful production and huge credit to Samuel Cockings for his magnificent work.
Really well done. Consider how many different people contributed to this project, with varying degrees of equipment, in different parts of the world. And all of that was somehow brought together into cohesive whole. You should be proud of this.
NICELY DONE!
And you are following all the 'rules' - and not trying to monetize this?
SO DAMNED PROUD OF YOU!
Keep going, my friends! I will look for ways to help.
Add my name to the list of those who lament Enterprise's premature conclusion. I just started the video.
So far, so good.