the problem with the color wheel
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You framed the colour wheel
This was a very informative video! Good job 🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏
its crazy how i had this same thought process one time and just spent forever trying to make a perfect color wheel
bro its crazy that some humans just decide to take accepted thought forms and fix them for ourselves.
In like Russia I’m pretty sure that they don’t differentiate between blue and green, so I figured why only three primary colors? I made a Color wheel with four and I’m quite happy with it.
@@emmaporter8160 would you consider sharing the color wheel? I assume you have RYGB as your colors.
@@emmaporter8160, as a Russian I can say that we do differentiate between blue and green. Japanese people don't.
@@emmaporter8160 No, they do. They also have cyan as a basic color word in their language (cyan isn't considered a basic color word in English, but rather an advanced one, per se)
Quick note, the K in CMYK does not stand for black, it stands for key. The key functions as the "base" color for printers, which is added as the darkest tone before the other layers are applied. Black usually makes the most sense here since most printing is done on white (or at least lighter) paper... however, a printer's key can theoretically be any color, and although it's rare to see non-black keys, it's also not completely set in stone.
Another mindblowing fact. Boom.
I did not expect a comment from the weapon reskins bird on a video like this
Ctrl + F "key" - nice, someone beat me to it :)
Color wheels have always been a strange case to me
I've asked for a Prussian blue key and been given The Look.
this is actually such a high quality video
even if it looks simple
its informative, and the animation its conveyed through is actually rly nice
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The only problem is that the audio is way too quiet
it's just so dang quiet
ikr! it feels like the beginning of a channel that blows up
Wait a minute, I know your channel, aren't you a JSAB creator? (Also I agree with you)
5:56 The reason magenta isn't on there is because it actually doesn't exist. That color is a mix of red and blue which means it activates those cones and so it would obviously go for the middle one, which is green. However, the green cone isn't activated, so the brain panics and makes magenta.
shouldnt it connect from the two sides, mixing red and blue though?
yeah i learned that after posting the video :) thanks for letting others know
@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhhno because they are from opposite sides
@@Lucpel18 to expand on this, i watched a video forever ago how we can't see yellowish blue, our brain defines these as opposites of each other. It's how the brain processes the signals from our cones
Also language effects our perception a lot. Like how you mentioned that cyan isn't blue, many languages have 2 blues are standard (eg Italian blu vs azzurro, blue vs azure/sky blue). People who speak these languages can tell shades of those colours apart faster and more accurately/precisely. Some languages have 2 greens too as standard. A good example is in English pink is literally light red but you say that and people will swear blind pink is different, but it's not, they just perceive it as such due to language and culture
Since learning Italian I literally can't not see blue and azure as different colours lol
Languages also evolve new colour words in a strict order. Starting with white/light, black/dark, and red. Then you get blue or green, then you get green or blue
This is why violets are blue, and robin redbreasts are actually orange. Those words didn't exist before, the concept of them being a different colour even didn't exist. Violet was a shade of blue, orange was a shade of red
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The main thing is that colors opposite each other on the "bad" color wheel are meant to mix into unattractive colors like grey and brown, and Yellow seemed primary because no colors seem to mix in physical objects like paint to make it, or at least not brightly. The primaries were defined by what colors you can't mix others to get. Blue and yellow would seemingly mix to make green.
Oddly, the unattractive colors are some of my favorites. :-) Harmonious colors are next to each other on that wheel, but harmonious is also called boring. In the paint world, it's also very strange what you CAN mix to get colors; canceling the blue in a magenta results in a red. It's a grayish red, but a red. And to me, phthalocyanine green is its own color, not a mix, as it's a pure pigment--although I can mix ultramarine blue or phthalo blue and a cad or Hansa yellow to make green if I wanted.
Most good, rich browns are technically in the red or orange range.
i was also taught that the colours on opposite sides of each other look nice together. but i swear, yellow and purple always look ugly to me 😅 and some of my favorite color combos arent even opposites
actually i just remembered after writing my comment, i remember one artist (and character designer) saying that in order to create color combos, you start with opposite colours and slightly change one. for example, from red and green you could get pink and green. or from yellow and purple you could get orange and purple, which im not mad about! this makes way more sense to me
but what about when magenta and yellow make red
The 'printer colors' cmy look brighter than the 'led colors' rgb because they stimulate two receptors rather than one. Now, there's a reason why we use these brighter primary colors in printers, because when you mix pigments you will always absorb more light and make darker colors. Mixing light in screens is the reverse. If you mix red and green paint you get the color of olives which is actually dark yellow, just like teal is dark cyan and purple dark magenta. You can mix white back into it but then your color will be desaturated. This is why painters struggled for so long to obtain bright colors and used a variety of pigments.
Theoretically pure blue (not leaning towards cyan) and yellow paint would give black as seen on the correct color wheel, as would red green and blue paint together. Problem with this though is that in practice blue pigments are weaker so you get more of a dark yellow color in the former case (olive) or dark orange (brown) in the latter case if you mix equal amounts. There is also this weird psychological thing that we seem to perceive yellow completely distinct from red and green, while cyan and magenta don't seem so radically different from green and blue/blue and red respectively. This adds to the historical confusion where red, blue and yellow where regarded as the primary colors, but we know better now. Hope this helps.
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Fun fact: The "wrong" color wheel is made for artists and paint mixing, but mixing paint colors actually act very similarly to additive color mixing.
For example if you mix red and green paint you get a weird "brownish" color, which is actually a shade of yellow, but darker.
Yeah, so the paint color wheel is useful in its own ways.
If it was like additive color mixing wouldn't it turn lighter?
Yes. I guess it's like mixing the hue, but substracting the saturation.
@@medvemapping7263 it's subtractive color mixing then :D
Please note that adding colors works differently depending on the medium
Adding all the colors of light will make white light.
Adding all the colors of paint will make black paint (or at least a really really dark brown)
Also important to note: many printers don't use subtractive mixing. Instead, they place tiny dots of CYMK that, from far away, merge together into an image.
Each dot reflects a varying amount of C, M, and Y, thus acting like pixels. Hence additive instead of subractive mixing
Can confirm
Thus the use of « subtractive » and « additive »
Inks and pigments are subtractive, because they absorb light. Computers are additives, because they create light. When you « add » pigments together, you’re actually reducing the quantity of light that is reflected, which is why it’s called subtractive
yeah my brain runs on paint so i was really confused when he said that green and red make yellow
That's because colors are differently defined depending on the medium.
Colors of light are defined by the light they reflect.
Colors of paint are defined by the light they absorb.
Not directly related to the video, but i think Web-Safe Colors are a nice pixel-art palette. Web-Safe Colors are 3-digit hex codes where every value is a multiple of 3 (such as #000, #F63, and #90C). If you want to represent them as 6-digit hex codes, just duplicate each digit (#000000, #FF6633, and #9900CC).
I like them because they include most of the colors you could want, but in rather large increments so you can get a “limited palette” feel and spend less time selecting colors.
They’re called Web-Safe Colors because they were originally designed to appear consistent across all 8-bit displays for the purpose of making websites.
Sometimes I like to modify the Web-Safe palette a bit to suit a certain project. For example, I could replace the second digit of each value with 0 for the background and F for characters, so that I can use the “same” color on the characters and background without them blending together (this also makes the background slightly darker so it’s easier on your eyes).
Interesting, thanks for sharing
genius, I'll keep this in mind
oh my god. this is exactly the advice i've been looking for, thank you so much!!
@@itsporpo1 while web-safe colors can provide a nice base, it’s still important to tweak your colors for your project!
have fun i guess
@@itsporpo1 bob
okay, okay. I actually had this exact same problem when thinking about color theory a couple months ago. I wanted to individualize each color to make them as distinct as possible, but the RYB wheel had way too many oranges and not enough cools. So after extensive research, I also remade the color wheel to be exactly like this guy's, with red, yellow, green, cyan, deep blue, and magenta as the primary colors and orange, lime, teal, light blue, purple, and rose as the secondaries. It fits much better and combines the RGB with CMY schemes!
Edit: after finishing the video I noticed you had an among us reference, so I will explain my reason for my color theory... among us. I wanted to figure out the most optimal colors for among us characters because I didn't like the new ones. There you go.
what is the difference between teal, cyan, and light blue
@@greenberrygk teal is dark cyan, just like how brown is dark orange. Cyan is cyan. I’m not sure what you’re referring to by saying “light blue” but I’ll assume that you mean the color that’s commonly called sky blue, which is low saturation cyan-blue.
@@Periwinkleaccount correction; what I mean by teal is the blue-cyan mixture, not dark cyan. I am probably using the wrong word. Light blue is cyan and blue. If you watch the video his color wheel has these same colors I just wrote my names for them here
@@Periwinkleaccount I prefer to call it Capri. Light blue is a dumb misnomer caused by light temperature impacting how people perceive brightness. An actual lighter blue would be periwinkle. Even Unicode got it wrong by rejecting magenta and cyan in favor of "pink" and "light blue" hearts 💜 💙
@@jaxon3186 The color between blue and cyan is Azure. Teal is a dark Turquoise which is 165° on the color wheel.
It feels strange to say, but arguing what the primary colours were in highschool was the first time i realized how much evidence some people were willing to ignore to avoid changing their beliefs
it's insane that we have access to basically all human knowledge via a quick google search, yet some people can still be ignorant about the most basic facts
I suppose because it’d so counterintuitive. We’ve all played with paints as kids, and we’ve all mixed blue and yellow to make green. It seemslike such a basic thing that I think it’s cognetively hard for people to wrap their minds around the consept that green is a primary color when they often had to mix two colors to get it.
@@MissCaraMint True, but we also live in a world dominated by rgb panels, and I mean- if you get close enough to a (low-res) monitor you can literally SEE the green sub-pixels. I also argued with this guy for days, he just kinda didn't wanna admit I was right
You spelt color wrong
@@Swagpion When I was in the 2nd grade I got a 9/10 on a spelling test because I spelled it colour. I was so destroyed that I looked it up in the dictionary, and when I saw both spellings written down I made a vow to exclusively spell it colour as an act of defiance. Fuck you mrs. Tucker, I should have gotten full points
What really makes my blood boil is not only the fact that for some reason so little people in art dont know about this and that they teach the wrong colour wheel in school but for SOME REASON when I tell people what primary colors actually are they act like Im crazy
and when i TRY to explain they pretend im arguing with them LIKE BRO ITS NOT MY OPINION THIS IS A SCIETIFICT FACT WHY IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND
The color wheels in literally every major drawing program uses the RGB / CYM wheel.
You'd think they would notice the conflicing messages.
@@namef true
But that is not how real colors (pigments) work. Which works for traditional media doesn't work for digital art.
And even in digital art combining that blue and red won't give you this delicious saturated magenta. Good luck in trying to get it.
And combining green and blue won't result in having saturated delicious clear cyan. Just open and digital program and try it right now haha.
And on the contrary yellow plus blue result in green in traditional media, red and blue result in purple and so on. That scheme works completely OK and people so far have been able to create masterpieces.
But in future maybe we will be able to get a color mixing engine in digital media which covers how actual color works. Would be cool.
The more i learn about color theory, the less sense it makes.
The color is beige, the shade is purple, WHY
im shocked at the fact this has so few views. this is such a cool thought and the way people are taught ryb first has always been weird considering rgb is how we perceive light.
Yeah, RYB really isn't how color actually works. Like, at all. You can _sometimes_ mix good colors with those three, but your gamut is going to be quite limited in practice.
@@EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15 It is how the most common pigments work, Magenta is an illusion, there is nothing between 380 violet and 750 red such are at opposing sides of the spectrum. Something quite interesting that I found was a “color wheel for artists” made by
Handprints that has pigments and their practical interactions rather than theoretical.
@@EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15yeah, shouldn't they be teaching CMY instead?
I don't know what the view count was 4 days ago, but 75k is nothing to sneeze at...
It’s ridiculously quiet, but 70k is still pretty good.
This is why i like FlipaClip's kind of colour wheel. It has *every single colour.* and you can't argue with that.
idk what that one is like but i just use 3 rgb sliders which is kinda hard to understand at first but eventually it gets pretty easy
@@melol69 oh flipaclips one is like this: Circle around a square, the circle shows the colours fading into eachother. And the square in the middle is where you choose the shade, with the usual, brightest of the colour being on the top right, White on the top left, and black on both sides at the bottom. Or atleast that's how good I myself can explain it...
@@karl6683 what you're describing is pretty standard as far as digital art programs go. it uses the spectrum color wheel, instead of categorizing them, which is what this video is talking about.
Most programs use a color system called HSV color where the H stands for hue which is mapped to a circle in much the same way.
Great video! Regarding where to put UV, thanks to an unusual eye surgery I can see UV light in one of my eyes. It looks white, tinged with just a hint of electric blue. The only way I know I'm seeing UV is that my eyes disagree about the brightness and color of what I'm looking at.
My ophthalmologist explained that the cornea and lens are mostly opaque to UV, so normally none of it reaches your retina. Therefore the color-detecting cone cells never evolved differential responses at UV frequencies; they all respond equally to UV light. Equal inputs from the RGB detectors is interpreted as white, so UV looks white.
Yeah, and if IR photography is anything to go by, IR goes from very red to pink... Magenta... Something, depending on how much you filter the rest of the light spectrum.
Your comment also makes a lot of sense when you see anti-UV lens filters and how they change pictures, and they do indeed make a subtle change in the colors you mention, specially that blue tint
This is actually such a good point- I've always just done like 3 separate wheels for the different types of light/colour theory (like one for CMYK, one for RGB, etc) but having it laid out like this makes a lot more sense I think. Good job!
Finally someone with the same opinion as me! I keep trying to explain this whole concept to people, but they never seem to understand. I'm glad I could find more like-minded people here.
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It's genuinely concerning how many people just don't think to double check.
It's even worse when these people post tutorials with the wrong info. It unfortunately creates a self propagating wave of bad information
my science class just finished the light section and when my teacher was teaching about the additive colours of light, i was definitely confused on why yellow was a primary colour
ur vid def helped me understand all that a bit better, and its great to know why the rgb/cmy way is correct
It’s really satisfying how RGB and CMY are organized in overlapping triads on the revised wheel
Ikr!
We’re all taught red blue and yellow were the primary colours, but cmyk are for paint/printers and RGB is for computer screens!
SINCE WHEN WAS THE RED BLUE AND YELLOW INVOLVED
RYB was made because schools considered cyan and magenta to be too "complicated", which is pretty stupid imo
I'm guessing cyan and magenta paint's harder to produce than red and blue, and they're a good enough approximation anyway.
Probably because paint. RYB primary colours are for paint and for mixing paint.
RYB are the primary colours for pigment and you use it with paint
Why do we still teach children this crap? I’m going to have to pull up a paint program and re-educate mine
This is a pretty cool vid, tbh we should have a cmyk colour wheel as that would make things easier for digital artists.
The normal color wheel does make sense it’s just that traditional art uses Red,Blue,Yellow, while digital uses Red,Blue,Green. Because the whole thing for primary colors is that thy can’t be made by mixing other colors, so for traditional art if you mixed red and green paint you wouldn’t get yellow you would get a brownish color, hence why yellow for traditional art is a primary. The wheel created in the video is good for digital artists, but I don’t think the complimentary colors would quite match up, but that’s my opinion.
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feels kinda empty without no copyrighted generic background music, really nice tho.
also.. REDISH MAGENTA EXISTS?!!?
yep it does but there's something really interesting about it.. maybe i'll talk about it in a later video
and thanks for the advice
@@Lucpel18 ayee thx to you for giving this content, i actually think you need more subs ngl
@@Lucpel18 it's called "rose"
fuchsia basically
5:35 the reason why the second colors/CMB are so prominent is interesting.
The color bar just shows the fully saturated colors. For RGB, this is easy to understand:
Red - 1,0,0 (100% red, 0% green and blue)
Green - 0,1,0
Compared to 50% grey: 0.5, 0.5, 0 5
If you want to de-saturate the red, you can make it "more like grey" by bringing the channel values closer together: 0.75, 0.25, 0.25.
So "saturation" has something to do with the difference between the highest and lowest colour channel.
But the secondary colours manage to be fully saturated while having two channels at 100% brightness. Like yellow: 1,1,0.
So in RGB colour sliders, they often stick out as brighter than the rest.
Kinda related: unlike Red or Blue or most colors, there isn't a specific wavelength of light that corresponds to the color Yellow.
Instead, what we see as Yellow is actually a combination of green, yellow-green, orange, and red wavelengths.
@@namef Between 570 and 590, is the yellow wavelength. We don’t have yellow cones, so we can only perceive some “duller” yellows compared to the intense greens we can see. Neither do computers, LED screens can only represent a portion of the visual color spectrum. Some pigments get closer but pigments interact in all sorts of ways not just additive and subtractive.
TBH I spent some time in my life getting annoyed at people putting orange with these six 'main' colours. It just started making no sense when I got to care about RGB.
Ever since I was a child, I thought Cyan had more of a reason to exist as a secondary color than Orange did.
I think the color wheel stretches the warm colors so that complimentary colors sit opposite each other, and other color combos like triadic or tetriadic are easy for us artists to find. It definitely seems like more of a usage choice then a scientific one. I'd be interested to see a version of your color wheel that emphasizes cmyk, while still putting everything in an easily sortable location - if such a wheel is even possible? Good video btw! Gives me something to chew on next time Im messing with colors
Very interesting video, and I do like your proposed new version. Appreciate your support of cyan and magenta independence as well!
Yes! Idk why but it makes me really angry when people don't recognize cyan and magenta as their own colors and instead treat them as shades of others
The colour wheel most commonly taught and seen on google has yellow as a primary instead of green because paint does act differently than digital regarding colour, red and blue paint makes purple so if you want magenta you need to add either a premixed pink or white and more red. To make green you just need yellow and blue. Both colour wheels are correct in their respective contexts like you mentioned in the video. This was fun to watch and I finally learned why computers use rgb :D
No that is false
The RYB system is incorrect and always wrong and dumb and warm skewed
The CMY system will always work, you just need to do a bit more mixing, but you can get so many more things
Try making jade green or fuchsia with ryb, you can’t
Technically speaking, CYM has the widest gamut of any three subtractive primaries, meaning it can mix into the most colors (thats why printers use CMYK)
Using RYB will result in a warm-cool alinged feel, but CYM will be the most accurate
"Paint acts differently than digital!"
yes it acts like ink :) (CMYK)
because it's a light reflector, not a light source.
thank you so much for this video, its so hard to sleep at night when the color green is so under appreciated
0:28 **sees red and teal labeled as 'doesn't go well together,'**
me: bLOCKED AND REPORTED
I don’t know why, but I love your animation so much, it makes my eyes happy
I had this exact thought process a few months ago. Also to answer the end of the video about Magenta, it's technically not a "real" color in the sense that it doesn't exist as a wavelength of light, but rather just a phenomenon generated by our eyes when we see a mixture of violet and red light.
Yeah our brain gets confused
@@Fernsaur Our brain isnt involved or "confused". In order for the eyes to detect light, the visual spectrum sent to the eye (which is very rarely a single monochromatic wavelength) is absorbed by and consequently scalar-multiplied by the response curve of a cone, resulting in only three values total even sent to the brain. Attempting to describe the real-world color wavelength spectrum curves which objects emit, consisting of billions of photons of varying wavelength, and which our brains interpret as color, by using only a single wavelength, is unreasonable, pedantic, non-scientific, and even less accurate to the real spectrum than the human vision model.
It's stupid to pretend that a colour is less real than the others, or at last if you admit than one is not, you have to admit that none do as they're all perceptions, there's no colour in the physical world, just light wavelengths, some just correspond to our perceptions.
Except when they do not, lol, 'cause that process also work with yellow and cyan, it you see at the same time photons with wavelengths capted by red and green cones but nothing in between, you'll see yellow even though there's no wavelength that we associate with yellow, so by that logic yellow would also not exist but just in some cases even if you don't feel any difference.
@@victzegopterix2 true, I guess I was just saying that our perception of magenta doesn’t involve a singular wavelength of light like it could for the other hues of the spectrum, even though those hues can also be perceived via multiple wavelength combinations
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As someone who already knew color theory pretty good, this was an endlessly entertaining animated explanation of it all, and a surprisingly compact video to boot.
I was rewinding just because it was that funny.
Good job.
YES! Someone else who believes cyan is its own color and not a shade of blue!
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rgb is used for colors of light (screens, lights, etc)
cmyk is used for colors of pigment (paint, printers, etc.)
theyre subtractive because lets say if you mixed cyan and magenta pigment, the cyan pigment absorbs red light only and the magenta pigment absorbs green light only so combined the absorb green and red light, only reflecting the blue light, making blue
they absorb all colors any individual pigment in the mix absorbs meanwhile with colors of light, adding colors reflects more light into your eye
I ended up doing a similar thing for my color system, but went all the way to quaternary colors with a name for each tint, shade, and tone along with white, black, and grey. This gives my system 99 easy to remember colors with conventional color names. I am still tweaking it, but the quaternary hues are Red, Vermilion, Orange, Amber, Yellow, Peridot, Chartreuse, Lime, Green, Emerald, Mint, Turquoise, Cyan, Capri, Azure, Cerulean, Blue, Indigo, Violet, Purple, Magenta, Fuchsia, Rose, and Crimson.
you spelt colour wrong
Some things you may have forgot to mention and that I think are important:
• The average person has 3 cone cells that each detect red, green, and blue light. This is why RGB screens use these colors; because they produce the highest range of colors. You could use different colored LCDs, but they would produce more washed-out colors compared to the red, green, and blue ones since those are the ones that your eye directly detects. If you mix yellow and cyan light, your eyes will see a desaturated green, not a non-existent color.
• The entire spectrum of colors does not include colors between red and blue because they are only a mix of the red and blue wavelengths, not actual wavelengths. Going beyond red is infrared, and beyond blue is ultraviolet. If you look at the visible spectrum of light through a prism, or at a rainbow, you will not see purple unless it is a faded double/triple rainbow, and there is another one nested inside it.
And a slightly irrelevant one that I find interesting:
• Computer screens cannot display all the colors you see. They cannot display colors beyond red, green, and blue. The colors you see on a screen are mixes of the red, green, and blue wavelengths. A sodium-vapor lamp only produces light near the wavelength 589 nm. Why is this relevant? With a sodium-vapor lamp as the only light source in an area, you would not be able to distinguish colors. You would see objects that reflect 589 nm as whiter than objects that reflect light in different wavelengths. If you took an image on a computer that tries to approximate this, you would not see things like this, and would still be able to distinguish colors. This is because the display still only uses red, green, and blue.
you spelt colours wrong
@@RedoStone35 The spelling "color" is used in the USA and occasionally in other English speaking countries, since a lot of the internet is in American English. I am Canadian, but since this video uses the American spelling, I decided to use the American spelling. None of these spellings are "wrong".
This was funny yet actually a really good video.
Bravo man.
i love that this is like a never ending topic in the art world. James gurney mention this in his book “light and color” and essentially there are basically more than just one type of color wheel.
The classic color wheel is also helpful for color theory. The colors opposite each other are complementary.
I would agure that the RGB / CYM color wheel also has complementary colors on opposite sides
If a chemical absorbs red light it looks cyan, green light magenta and blue light yellow. These are the real opposite colors. RYB is based on historical misconceptions.
I never understood the point of RYB color wheel. Good video!
03:45 f: The "k" for "black" stands for "key" because the traditional black printing plate was called the key plate.
However, as a German speaker, I have another mnemonic:
Using black ink or toner improves the light- dark contrast, and the German word for "contrast" is basically the same word but beginning with "k".
In Sweden it’s also kontrast
@@BlackinoSorpello
I know. My painting teacher is Swedish.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 ok
Awesome video man, I was thinking of the very same thing yesterday (about the uv and ir light placement). One thing I would like is some cited sources for some of the stuff you pulled from. Otherwise great video format, it was fun to watch and had fantastic editing!
I mean... you could just use another representation like the cube, which is commonly used for rgb and cmy, or maybe a cone or cylinder, which are commonly used to explain the HSV colour space. The problem with those colour spaces is, by the way, that they don't cover every colour you can see, sooo, maybe just use the CIELAB colour space and its model. It's pretty much the most perceptually uniform colour space you can get, which means the relationships between colours are as we perceive them (the distance between orange and red for example) and covers every colour humans can see, which means it isn't bound to a medium. It would be useful for traditional art. For digital art an rgb color wheel or the cube makes sense since the gamut is smaller than the CIELAB gamut, but if you want to print things using the CMY model as a basis for your colour wheel is a good idea.
keep making these! its super engaging and funny, while also being informative in an easy-to-digest way. can’t believe you only have 5k subs!!
In russian cyan is голубой (pronounced ga-loo-boi) and the darker blue is синий (pronounced si-niy) ( completley different words, and they are always taught to even like kindergarteners). So basically you (english) will say blue object, where its hard to differentiate (for an average person (not an artist)) wether its light blue or dark blue, but i (russian) can say синий and its obvious im talking bout blue (as in the rgb one)
Hungarian also has an extra colour name, but it’s for two types of red
Bright red is "piros" while dark and less saturated red is "vörös"
there have also been studies which show that people whose native language includes two words for blue (like russian) can see more shades of blue! they were able to better differentiate between slightly different shades of blue compared to, for example, english speakers. I don't know if there have been studies on this with red and hungarian speakers, but I wonder if the same thing would be true 🤔
In spanish Light blue is Celeste, while Blue is Azul Two completely different words too :p
This is an awesome video but I have a question, why is yellow not a primary colour? You may have already explained this because I was watching with background noise
Red, blue, and yellow work for things like paint, but our eyes see colors in red, blue, and green. There are some really small physical objects called "cones" in the backs of our eyes, and there are three types of them, which are red, green, and blue. Hope that cleared up some of it.
Thank you for talking about this. As an artist, i am fed up by people who keeps telling me that cmy only works for printings only
Yeah, it only takes a milisecond of critical thought to realize CYM should obviously work for painting, yet most older artists just refuse to get it.
@@namef like the pigments they use in the inks exists in the other medium yet they refuse to believe
My teacher just said, "the color reflects off the thing, that's what color it is," or something like that. So it made no sense to me, I thought, "why would the color it tries to get rid of be the color it is?" But when you said, "it deflects off the object and into our eyes," it made so much sense to me. (I did know abt the white and black colored stuff btw)
Wow! And it works quite well for color mixing too: a warm blue/indigo (blue on your color wheel) mixed with yellow gets a very dull grey-green, cyan + scarlet will not get you purple, and pink/magenta and green will get you grey as well. As someone learning watercolor, I'm already thinking this way in my color mixing, and seeing it laid out so nicely is very beautiful!
You've also validated my decision to include 2 blues, multiple greens, and no orange in my palette XD
A really informative video, noice
Love that color change early in the video when one of the circles changed to green. The attention to detail makes for great humor
2:57 Bruh, I always confuse yellow as a primary color and thinking whether if was green out blue as the last primary color 😂😂 got a but of shock after realizing that it's not.
Edit: Yo, I should check my comments before commenting, even I can't understand what I wrote (and I don't intend to fix it)
Yellow is a primary color of *light.* Everywhere else, it uses green instead.
@@Whimsykit
No, yellow is a primary color of paint, not light
Yeah same but it’s al school’s fault
@@Whimsykitno light is red GREEN and blue
This video is awesome! I would love to see a part 2. Colour is a topic that really interests me.
this helps me understand some things about color now thanks
I don't know what color is anymore. Thanks for turning my world upside down.
Paint isn't additive or subtractive though. When you mix 2 paints you get the average colour between them, hence why primaries with higher contrast are used. Having really dark blue and light yellow allows for a huge range of greens inbetween, so they make more sense as primaries in that context. Red is used instead of magenta on normal colour wheels because they just look similar and red is more common in nature.
This video is halarious! Awesome job man you had me laughing out loud. Your animations are top tier humor
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3:40 the reason why K stands for black is because it actually stands for a shade of black called “Key.” If we used B to stand for black, it would be confused with blue.
What is most curious for me is that color despite being an objective quality of any object, is largely perceived through language.
Some people in the comments already mentioned how Russian has one additional primary color word for azure (голубой) as opposed to blue (синий). Which is why there's less ambiguity inside the cool color spectrum in Russian compared to English.
But there's more to this. Even inside a particular language, different words for color aren't the same. For example red and blue - both primary words for color. However notice how red us much less ambiguous than blue. You say "red", and it's a very specific color, not red-orange, not pink, not rose, but *red*, but you say "blue" and that is instead perceived as wide variety of shades, almost the entire cool part of the spectrum can be described as blue.
Or well at least that's how it is for me and my immediate surroundings. Still, that's a thing I find interesting.
I remember being blown away when I discovered Brown is just Dark-orange.
Language is crazy influential to how we experience the world
your channel gonna blow up. so underrated
3:08 ParashockX moment
The only good part about the red, yellow and blue wheel is that its ONLY for painting because that's how it works in real life, making it technically not wrong, whilst the red, green and blue colour wheel is for digital art. And no, there are such things as colour pigment that don't need light but only come from nature like how some sea shells are purple because they have purple pigments inside of them. Fun Fact, purple was very expensive back in the 1300-1920 because mixing red and blue didn't give you purple, it just gave you dry pink. The only way to get purple was to find and kill a purple seashell, which was very rare. That's why purple is associated with royalty and the queen. R, I, P. Its also the reason why only 2 national flags have purple on them.
Anyways, good vid :)
Fun fact, violet and magenta are just each chart's ideal purple. And since their respective ideal complementaries are yellow and green, chartreuse is complementary in both wheels to the tertiary purple. Also, just wait till you find out about the _natural color system_ , oh boy.
The rabbit hole of color spaces goes so… so… deep
u even got the color wheel as yo pfp lmfaooo
@@skrulgrills indeed I do.
NCS is just a biased & failed representation of the opponent color theory. Even HSL that can sometimes do very incorrect calculations with RGB values is far more better than NCS because the positions of red, green, blue, cyan, magenta and yellow are so much closer to their same positions on a correct diagram of our hue perception than their NCS positions. That means even a simple RGB color wheel can better serve the purpose of color matching than NCS. NCS is just a more developed version of the RYB color wheel imo
I'm a teacher and I LOVE telling my students that purple and magneta dont exist. It's such a cool fact. Infrared and ultraviolet can't be on the color wheel because we can't see them, and every other organism that has different rods and cones from us has a different color wheel.
A mantis shrimp has seven primary colors and can't represent color with a wheel. There's not just 3 secondaries or even 7, every primary can be mixed with another to get a six dimensional mess of secondary colors that we could never imagine, and that's not even counting all the tertiary colors and mixes of white and black.
I thought this guy had at least 100k+ subs, I was quite surprised to find out I was wrong
only about 99,800 to go!
@@Lucpel18 yup!!!!!
Will your next video be on shades, tones, and saturation levels? Or maybe answering the question "Is brown an actual color?"
FINALLY SOMEONE FUCKING SAID IT
I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS STUFF FOR **YEARS**
AMATEUR ARTISTS SPREADING **LIES** LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF ORANGE IS BLUE AND NOT YELLOW OR GREEN IS THE OPPOSITE OF RED
(The opposite of orange is azure (blue-cyan.))
If cyan and azure are shades of blue, and lime and aqua (green-cyan) are shades of green, then orange and rose (magenta-red, I sometimes call it false-red flol, the type of red like in Super Sayian God Goku- the first one-) are shades of red. Which is backed up historically, which is why people with orange hair, are called redheads, and same for animals, because orange is named after the fruit, and was considered a shade of red until recently in history.
Everyone in and around this video has that Grand Autismo™️
We all really put our brain power into this it’s amazing.
0:17 I see 3 identical blues and bright blue and green and barely yellow and orangey-red and red
not in that order
The trouble is with the way colours are taught in school. They do not distinguish between Cyan and Blue, calling cyan "light blue", which is just wrong. When you put the two colours next to each other you realise how different they are. Calling cyan "light blue" is like calling yellow "light green". If schools actually taught us the two colours separately then there would be much less confusion. But I guess they don't want to confuse kids with too many colour terms.
Also, with regards to the Isaac Newton thing, it's now thought that what he referred to as "blue", actually was cyan, and what he referred to as "indigo" is what we would now call blue (proper pure blue, not cyan).
Since each person perceives color slightly differently, and we have a varying sensitivity to colors and light intensity, there is a unique color wheel for each and every one of us.
As an artist, i get frustrated at how RYB is considered law, when CMYK is much more useful in a limited palette
This is probably one of the most incomplete and misinformative take on the topic I have seen in a while. I can guess why, reading the video description, but I think you should do some thorough research on color theory and vision before releasing an "educational" video on the topic...
Agree with you. I'm a painter and learned a lot about colours and know that there are a lot of professional scientific literature about it. Also there are a lot of circles and theories. This video doesn't represent full information. It seems impossible to do.
Yeah it’s just so incomplete and that Game Theory claim was bs, lol
The problem with the color wheel is that it’s “the” color wheel. Unless you’re using additive color there is no perfect color wheel. We’re just trying to represent the full spectrum of light as best we can with the pigments at hand. You should make “A” color wheel with the medium you’re using and the colors you have. Depending on your pigments, you might want to use the red yellow blue model we learned in kindergarten. If you have a really good magenta and cyan, you might want to use cmy. Even after you choose that, you might find you like the green in your tube better than the green you get from mixing cyan (or blue) with yellow… and so on until it’s filled in. “The” color wheel we see everywhere does it’s very best to be two things at once. It takes the unarguable natural colors of light dictated by science and tries to tweak them and put them into a chart that’s made by additive colors or useful for helping us blend additive colors, which is inherently wrong.
And a quick PS for the “magenta isn’t real” people. Just because it doesn’t exist in the natural light spectrum without being separated and remixed, doesn’t make it “not real.” That’s like saying brass isn’t real because it’s not mined as a complete alloy, but as separate metals to be incorporated into one by people.
Great explanation!
Choosing unique palettes instead of always relying on RYB is a powerful way to effect the mood / feel of the painting
Also, nice analogy between magenta and minerals, I'll definately be using that
"Cyan is not a shade of blue and magenta is not a shade of purple"
I was already loving your video and gave a like, but after this I *have to* subscribe
First of all, since I haven't found any other comments here pointing it out, I'm gonna say it, violets aren't blue, the poem is just wrong, or outdated because of how language and the meanings of words change, at best.
Second, it's my understanding the color wheel isn't so much for showing the transition between colors, or whatever, but for grouping colors for artistic purposes, or something like that. So it's not really wrong, it just isn't meant to be used for everything, just like how other color models have their own purposes and specialties.
Also, i will consider cyan a type of blue, just like I consider magenta a type of pink, and black and white respectively as the darkest and lightest shades of gray in terms of what they actually are even though I don't just call both of them gray, because that'd cause more confusion than me lumping cyan in with blue or magenta with pink.
Excellent!
Much better. I will be using yours. Seriously.
Now consider this, too: if you mix red and green light, we perceive it as yellow. But as a waveform, it's really quite different from pure yellow. Some animals can see the difference. You can also see the difference using a prism. All that is to say, colors don't really mix, our eyes mix them. And any color wheel is just a method for organizing what our eyes do.
not even 200 subscribers? thats it im subscribing
RYB is *close* to the subtractive primaries. CMY. (MYC if adjusted)
I think the reason it's usually RYB we talk about for primary colors is because the mixing of them skips the uncommon colors like magenta and cyan. And I wouldn't think that children will have access to magenta in their paint sets.
You have good animation skills
This Video In The First Minute Teaches Me More About Colour Then School Has
This is very inspirational for me. Brilliant content , and extremely informative in such a short space of time. Please do part two. Im I’m really looking forward to it as im working with a friend on daltonism, a.k.a. colourblindness monochromacy and partial monochromacy keep up the great work. There is so much to be done for all vision types
The wierd thing about light is that our eyes lie to us about it. If you shined a yellow light of yellow photons onto an object, for example, it would look black-and-yellow. If you shined a "yellow" light of green and red onto an object, however, the object would be red, green, and yellow.
This is because the "yellow" that comes from red and green isn't actually yellow, but is a result of a short cut taken by our eyes. The "Red" and "Green" sensors of our eyes also detect yellow photons, just less, so in order to see "Yellow" it just looks for places that detect a lot of red and green and marks them as yellow. This also means that objects that reflect red and green look yellow even if the photons aren't yellow.
Technically, additive primaries are a kinda free choice. You can generate any combination of colors within an area spanned by the primaries.
In particular, while it wouldn't exactly be efficient, you *could* choose some cyan, yellow, and Magenta as your primaries, and still manage to mix them into reds, greens and blues.
It's just that that would be rather inefficient in terms of how our vision happens to work. The peak saturation levels of your resulting reds, greens, and *especially* blues would end up pretty lacking. Those colors, even if you use spectral (or bi-spectral in case of Magenta) primaries, would be pretty greyish compared to what choosing some red/green/blue may do.
Ultimately, you just need some more or less arbitrary choice of three lights, and as long as they aren't what amounts to perceptually colinear, and the hues are far enough apart, if you appropriately scale their intensities, they would sum up to some version of "white" (which isn't an absolute either as our vision adapts to whitepoints and such)
You just expained color palettes better than my arts teacher, bravo!
It should be noted that the RGB color wheel isn’t necessarily the “correct one,” just one that works best based on how the human eyes perceive light. If, in 100,000,000 years our species evolves in such a way that we end up tetra- or even pentachromatic, everything we have already made using RGB will look weird.
Wow, in just 6:06 minutes, you explained it pretty well for my baby brain. Thanks!
Pretty good summary actually
surprised this only has a thousand views after nearly a month
A very fun and informative video! Loved it! Definitely would like to see more long format rant/ explanatory videos!
great vid, definetly deserves more views
You are so right in saying that cyan is not a shade of blue, it drives me insane that people think that.
Language defines how we think. Because english calles both of them blue, people tend to think of them as a single color. But in russian, for example, we consider them separate colors with two distinct names. "Синий" (sinij) for the dark blue and "Голубой" (goluboi) for the cyan.
On the colorwheel you can see that cyan leans closer to green and blue leans closer to purple. They are not interchangeable colors, I say that as an oil painter.
Kinda unrelated, but I've noticed that a lot of younger Minecraft players correctly see cyan as it's own color.
I wonder if the wool colors being distict for example has anything to do with it
true. rgb just makes more sense than ryb.
That's true for digital editing/illustrations, but when you start mixing pigments in the real world, RYB is at least better than RGB
@@antehll Lol how many times have I seen an RYB wheel with too many very indistinguishable oranges
RYB just sucks, that’s all it is.
@@juliens8587 Not saying it's the best, but for subtractive colors, it's better than RGB. Nothing beats CMY, but it works
@@antehll Well if you think that RGB is more perceptually correct than RYB and that green can be very easily as light as yellow then RGB is better even if that’s not its purpose
I need to see more.
My favorite color is infrared.
I like 0 dimensional and 1 dimensional shapes.
What about ultraviolet hypercubes tho? It's the best shape and color combo
@@Fernsaur ah yes. Ultraviolet tesseracts. 👍👍 they are pretty good but I have reasons to like infrared sticks better and I don't feel like explaining why but again, ultraviolet 4D cubes are brilliant
I found this when it had 200 views now it's has 50k keep up the great work ❤
you can improve it by adding lighter colors in the middle, and darker on the outside. this includes EVERY COLOR IN EXISTANCE.
Place lighter/darker on a 3rd axis and you've got the HSL color space
The color wheel is only used as a very basic visualization of color theory, it doesn't, and was never supposed to, go in depth with color theory and design. You will almost never see a professional artist using a color wheel to decide colors. It's only ever used to explain the basics